In the series, this was almost a physical manifestation of what was happening around the Queen. Her children’s marriages failing, the world was changing in ways she couldn’t understand, the institution she heads coming under question, her authority being challenged by her own son behind her back, then scandal after scandal and she couldn’t do anything. Her duty was to do nothing even if she wanted to. The House of Windsors was burning down literally and figuratively and all she can do is watch.
I understand that the Queen dearly loved Winsor Castle. she and her sister lived there during the war. her Husband Prince Philip would pass away with in its walls many years later.
@@Celestialyeontan not directly but the writers did take some liberties with the script and the plot, stretching it as much as they can. Charles was meeting with John Major secretly to lobby him to encourage the Queen to abdicate and let him be king. He didn’t get anywhere with John Major but later he met again in secret with Tony Blair. The Queen had to remind Charles that only the Sovereign meets with Prime Ministers privately. That is a challenge to her authority. Albeit indirectly in a roundabout way. Hence why, Tony Blair and John Major, the real ones, made it perfectly clear, these meetings never happened in real life.
I can say from experience that it is hard to visit your house after a fire. I took pictures because I was having trouble reconciling the reality. Little did I know I would help the insurance company trying to assess the damage!
Word. When my home burned down I hid behind a camera lens.. i couldnt process it. the things they dont tell you , is that the water does more damage and that some items retrieved take years to get rid of that carbon smell. Also photos.. i cried more for the loss of that than furniture.
@@dukeofglasgow9354 how rude of you to think our Monarch did not really see this what next? You probably are a dumb American who thinks the British are under the rule of a Neo nazi Ruler
I was a actually disappointed this event wasn't more prominent in the season. I watched a documentary on the fire and the restoration and it said other members of the royal family were there and not just the queen, Andrew even took part in the evacuation of priceless items while the fire raged and Phillip took part in the restoration and the decision to finance it by opening Buckingham Palace up for tours. Here it was just one part of one episode and never brought up again.
I think it's because the fire at Windsor has already been documented, and people know what happened that we didn't need to spend alot of time with it in the crown. For the context of this show, all we needed to know was that the queen seemed helpless as she was surrounded by problem after problem. The direction of this episode handles this perfectly. Not only does the queen seem quite removed (great acting on staunton's part) but combined with the fast paced nature of the episode, really captured how lost the queen seemed after having a terrible year.
Just because the Queen was a very rich woman, does not mean one cannot sympatise with her in this instance. I think we would all feel sad, if one of our homes were caught on fire, wheather you bee rich or poor
They were able to save most of the artwork and furniture. And the damaged wing was rebuilt. Plus she still had Buckingham Palace, Balmoral Castle, and Sandringham.
@@SymphonyBrahms but Windsor in particular held emotional value to the queen and her sister, they grew up in Windsor castle, especially during the war, she went to school at Eaton nearby. So for her it was far more of a emotional impact
@@l.tc.5032 the woman watched her home burn down. you could argue she has other homes, but doesn’t mean this one didn’t hold a place in a heart. at the end of the day, she’s a human going through tragedy and you can’t rack up the slightest bit of sympathy? yikes.
No way is the Queen or Prince standing in the burned-out shell like that! Incredibly dangerous, nobody would be allowed to do that let alone those two.
It's a TV show, they're job is to make it dramatic and interesting not necessarily realistic. There are a few documentaries detailing the fire, if you want an accurate account go watch those not The Crown.
True, but they owned that castle and were the Queen and Prince of that country. In retrospect they HAVE to check it themselves, since half the stuff in the castle also belonged to the state as well, and must assure that either everything in Windsor Castle was lost forever or was saved from the flames
It was not too long after this that it was announced that the Princess Royal would marry a 2nd time shortly after her own divorce from her 1st husband became final at Balmoral [which, being in Scotland, meant that it was territory where the Queen was NOT the Supreme Governor of the Church]. Shortly afterwards, the Queen Mother expressed her regret that she'd be unable to attend her granddaughter's wedding due to having had 'prior commitments' [ technically true since virtually every single day of an adult working royal's life is booked solid with zillions of teas, ceremonies, ribbon cuttings,etc.]. The Queen did NOT buy or accept this since virtually all the aforementioned ribbon cutting attendees would have perfectly understood why a guest of honor would have cancelled/postponed that to attend a granddaughter's wedding (and she knew that the Queen Mother was rather snobbish on the subject of divorced people remarrying)! Anyway, she evidently made it very clear that since the 'Annus Horribilus' was nearing its end, she wanted ONE happy time with the entire family united in celebration (and she herself personally liked her impending son-in-law) before the New Year and she was NOT going to put up with any excuses from even her own mother so very quickly the Queen Mother made another announcement that she was going to have miss those 'prior commitments' due to her attending her granddaughter's wedding. FWIW, the Queen always disliked having to travel via helicopter but would grudgingly endure helicopter journeys so if there was no other means of transport to Points B whereas the Queen Mother actually loved being flown in helicopters!
When the oic got on scene, the first call was make pumps 15, then 20, and then 25 still although they tried their best Winsor castle was never the. Same
if this happened while Queen Victoria, King George V and Queen Mary were alive, I'm sure this would have made them so miserable and depressed for a long time, and more of the castle would have burned, and more artifacts would have been lost
@@RampantFury925 although Charles and Andrew were also present alongside their mother during the fire, *Andrew was at Windsor in the first place* (Charles came from Sandringham), it was Andrew who informed QE2 by phone (she was at Buckingham Palace), and it was Andrew who *coordinated the evacuation of the artefacts out of the castle* and into the Upper Ward's inner courtyard (QE2 also helped in taking things off)
@@introvertontheinternet the current theory is that a curtain in the Private Chapel was touching the spotlight behind it, which caught on fire and when one piece dropped the fire spread
'The Crown' should reflect reality. Monarchy shouldn't be used as real-life soap opera. The achievement of the British monarchy should become clear in comparison with the histories of other countries. In the 19th & 20th centuries the U.S.A, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, Spain and Greece suffered in various ways civil wars, political storms, and dictatorships. This shows what can go wrong in the absence of a head of state which is above politics, and which opposes illegal dictatorship. If there are many reasons England, Wales, and Scotland have had no civil war since Culloden in 1746, having a constitutional monarchy to unify all the people is an important reason. In the UK, 'peace' in formal speech is "The King's Peace". Since Elizabeth II died, there has been much publicity, not so much thought about why she matters. Of course Prince Philip could be tactless; he & Elizabeth II made mistakes as parents. Whatever mistakes the royal family have made, let us be grateful for the unity the monarchy gives in the UK & the world. By stabilizing Britain & the commonwealth (e.g. Canada & Australia), it promotes peace in the world. The sea around it didn't protect the U.S.A. against civil war in the 1860s, and the UK could have suffered civil war over slavery in the 19th century; likewise over world war, loss of empire, economic failure, or race in the 20th. There will always be violence and political problems in the world, and billions of people who know or understand nothing of the British monarchy and the stability it brings. Since the 1700s, billions of people have lived under the British crown without civil war, lynching, dictatorship in their lives. God save King Charles III, and his successors.
I am German and personally i am glad we no longer have a monarchy. If the UK is happy with a constitutional monarchy that's fine by me, not everyone has to find the same solution for "head of state". I respect the late Queen Elisabeth II, not for the position she inherited but for the life she led. Still i think the UK was lucky to have her, which is my main point against monarchy. If you get a good monarch, it's luck. If you get a bad apple everyone has to put up with it. With elected heads of state you also get your bad apples, but you can vote them out again.
@@respectfulconversation944 That's why Germany in 1871 or before is not now available a small part of it only exists with the help of allies your territory keeps on decreasing after the abolition and also there is a huge bad reputation you know
@@-B-SaswataRoychoudhuryRKMV I live in Bavaria which historically and culturally had a lot more in common with the Austrian Hapsburg empire than with the northern German territory. It´s the fault of Leopoldine of Bavaria that Bavaria is now a part of Germany because she stopped the union with Hapsburg in 1799 because her husband Karl Theodor would have made the deal if she wouldn´t have prevented it. But actually i don´t think it matters much today how big a country is or where its borders are. So long as everyone in that country has a good and free life where basic human rights are respected i´m fine. Nationalism is a thing of the past, slow to go away. But i believe there will be a time when it´s no longer important in which country you were born or how big that country is. The European Union is already a step in that direction.
@@mattbernabe so am I. They lost a sideboard, afew pieces' of porcelain , a few chandelier and one painting that has a duplicate elsewhere. It wasn't the disaster it might have been.
“This year could not get any worse!”
“Your Majesty, Windsor Castle is on fire!”
“Of course it f***ing is.”
😂😂😂
I like to tell myself this is how HM Queen Elizabeth actually reacted.
Like 1992 couldn't POSSIBLY get worse for her... and then it does.
2020 was a million times worse for the whole world than 1992 was for the Queen
In the series, this was almost a physical manifestation of what was happening around the Queen. Her children’s marriages failing, the world was changing in ways she couldn’t understand, the institution she heads coming under question, her authority being challenged by her own son behind her back, then scandal after scandal and she couldn’t do anything. Her duty was to do nothing even if she wanted to. The House of Windsors was burning down literally and figuratively and all she can do is watch.
I understand that the Queen dearly loved Winsor Castle. she and her sister lived there during the war. her Husband Prince Philip would pass away with in its walls many years later.
her authority was never challenged by her son the then Prince Charles which has been stated as incorrect as that would be treason
@@Celestialyeontan not directly but the writers did take some liberties with the script and the plot, stretching it as much as they can. Charles was meeting with John Major secretly to lobby him to encourage the Queen to abdicate and let him be king. He didn’t get anywhere with John Major but later he met again in secret with Tony Blair. The Queen had to remind Charles that only the Sovereign meets with Prime Ministers privately. That is a challenge to her authority. Albeit indirectly in a roundabout way. Hence why, Tony Blair and John Major, the real ones, made it perfectly clear, these meetings never happened in real life.
She was dumb thats why she didnt understand the world a NON VICTORIAN WORLD.
She could have been a better mother to Charles or intervened before her son destroyed his relationship with Diana. She was never a passive observer.
I can say from experience that it is hard to visit your house after a fire. I took pictures because I was having trouble reconciling the reality. Little did I know I would help the insurance company trying to assess the damage!
I know. It’s fictional.
Word. When my home burned down I hid behind a camera lens.. i couldnt process it. the things they dont tell you , is that the water does more damage and that some items retrieved take years to get rid of that carbon smell. Also photos.. i cried more for the loss of that than furniture.
@@dukeofglasgow9354 It's not fictional. This genuinely happened in real life.
@@dukeofglasgow9354 how rude of you to think our Monarch did not really see this what next? You probably are a dumb American who thinks the British are under the rule of a Neo nazi Ruler
@@expatleanie Fact! Smoke too..
Philips loves her always through ups and downs. This is why their relationship is so strong to their bond
I was a actually disappointed this event wasn't more prominent in the season. I watched a documentary on the fire and the restoration and it said other members of the royal family were there and not just the queen, Andrew even took part in the evacuation of priceless items while the fire raged and Phillip took part in the restoration and the decision to finance it by opening Buckingham Palace up for tours. Here it was just one part of one episode and never brought up again.
I think it's because the fire at Windsor has already been documented, and people know what happened that we didn't need to spend alot of time with it in the crown. For the context of this show, all we needed to know was that the queen seemed helpless as she was surrounded by problem after problem. The direction of this episode handles this perfectly. Not only does the queen seem quite removed (great acting on staunton's part) but combined with the fast paced nature of the episode, really captured how lost the queen seemed after having a terrible year.
I wonder if Andrew was sweating being so close to the flames...
@@theoclutterbuck Don't be silly, he had a very small bath afterwards
Had a housefire a couple of years ago. Childhoodhome. Burnt to the ground. Was 16 back then. Now, everytime I watch this scene, I can’t help but cry.
I felt so bad for both HM, Queen Elizabeth II, and HRH, Princess Margaret because they spent a better part of World War II at Windsor Castle.
Just because the Queen was a very rich woman, does not mean one cannot sympatise with her in this instance. I think we would all feel sad, if one of our homes were caught on fire, wheather you bee rich or poor
Well I don't. I don't sympathize. It's kind of hard to. To me it's Karma.
@@l.tc.5032 Karma for what?
They were able to save most of the artwork and furniture. And the damaged wing was rebuilt. Plus she still had Buckingham Palace, Balmoral Castle, and Sandringham.
@@SymphonyBrahms but Windsor in particular held emotional value to the queen and her sister, they grew up in Windsor castle, especially during the war, she went to school at Eaton nearby. So for her it was far more of a emotional impact
@@l.tc.5032 the woman watched her home burn down. you could argue she has other homes, but doesn’t mean this one didn’t hold a place in a heart. at the end of the day, she’s a human going through tragedy and you can’t rack up the slightest bit of sympathy? yikes.
The art that was irreplaceable heartbreaking 💔
Only one side board and one painting was lost in the fire everything else was saved.
Piracy on internet has proven that no art is irreplaceable
Piracy on internet has proven that no art is irreplaceable
@@johncurrie6693 you forgot the organ in the former Private Chapel
@盧璘壽로인수 imagine that was actually a fixture which couldn't be moved.
She was not just watching her home burn she was watching her name and legacy fall apart Engulfed In Flames along with it
never saw the actual event on Tv as I was born a few years later but I have heard my Mum talk about how horrible a sight it was
I was 21 years old...I couldn't believe it when I watched the clips on the evening news when it happened. ..it was surreal..
Wouldve been cool if we got to see the gurkha still on sentry, refusing to leave his post
It was Her Majesty’s home. The House of Windsor was literally on fire
1:48 to 2:02 looks like a scene from Game of Thrones....
I was just thinking the same. Half-seriously waiting for Drogon to do a flyby. hahaha
@@benjaminosterloh3605 well I mean all three actors that played Prince Phillip are in the Game of Thrones series hahahaha
@@alee7311 Daemon Targaryen, Tywin Lannister, and The High Sparrow. Talk about a reunion, huh 😉
@@LGranthamsHeir middle age Phillip was Edmure tully, Tywin was Dicky... the one that died in a boat explosion.
@@alee7311 I was like "Matt Smith isnt in game of thr, Oh yeah never mind" Sorry I haven't watched House of the Dragon.
Oh dear heavens😢
1:38 many French people felt the Queen's pain and sorrow when Notre Dame caught on fire in 2019
Just dawned on me that the fire began on 45th wedding aniversary (20th of November)
They skipped over this way too fast.
No way is the Queen or Prince standing in the burned-out shell like that! Incredibly dangerous, nobody would be allowed to do that let alone those two.
It's a TV show, they're job is to make it dramatic and interesting not necessarily realistic. There are a few documentaries detailing the fire, if you want an accurate account go watch those not The Crown.
*their
True, but they owned that castle and were the Queen and Prince of that country. In retrospect they HAVE to check it themselves, since half the stuff in the castle also belonged to the state as well, and must assure that either everything in Windsor Castle was lost forever or was saved from the flames
who is going to tell her no.
It was not too long after this that it was announced that the Princess Royal would marry a 2nd time shortly after her own divorce from her 1st husband became final at Balmoral [which, being in Scotland, meant that it was territory where the Queen was NOT the Supreme Governor of the Church]. Shortly afterwards, the Queen Mother expressed her regret that she'd be unable to attend her granddaughter's wedding due to having had 'prior commitments' [ technically true since virtually every single day of an adult working royal's life is booked solid with zillions of teas, ceremonies, ribbon cuttings,etc.]. The Queen did NOT buy or accept this since virtually all the aforementioned ribbon cutting attendees would have perfectly understood why a guest of honor would have cancelled/postponed that to attend a granddaughter's wedding (and she knew that the Queen Mother was rather snobbish on the subject of divorced people remarrying)! Anyway, she evidently made it very clear that since the 'Annus Horribilus' was nearing its end, she wanted ONE happy time with the entire family united in celebration (and she herself personally liked her impending son-in-law) before the New Year and she was NOT going to put up with any excuses from even her own mother so very quickly the Queen Mother made another announcement that she was going to have miss those 'prior commitments' due to her attending her granddaughter's wedding.
FWIW, the Queen always disliked having to travel via helicopter but would grudgingly endure helicopter journeys so if there was no other means of transport to Points B whereas the Queen Mother actually loved being flown in helicopters!
tbh when I saw 1:40 in the official trailer I thought it was a closeup of "that" car crash in Paris
Miraculously no one was killed in the fire. Only minor injuries.
The poor Queen 😥
U mean wealthy.. Hehe.. Jokes
ya how poor she was...just 754 million dollars in the back account...so poor indeed
@@aditkaushal9397 they mean poor as in she was sad that the castle burnt down
@@chaarli4681 she had many other castles left
@@pascalfigura it doesn’t matter how many house you have. If one of them burned you might feel sad too.
When the oic got on scene, the first call was make pumps 15, then 20, and then 25 still although they tried their best Winsor castle was never the. Same
if this happened while Queen Victoria, King George V and Queen Mary were alive, I'm sure this would have made them so miserable and depressed for a long time, and more of the castle would have burned, and more artifacts would have been lost
The 90s was an awful decade for the upper class
They have should have had Prince Andrew in this scene!
I just watched a docu on this, and regrettably yes that pig actually contributed something...
Why?
@@RampantFury925 although Charles and Andrew were also present alongside their mother during the fire, *Andrew was at Windsor in the first place* (Charles came from Sandringham), it was Andrew who informed QE2 by phone (she was at Buckingham Palace), and it was Andrew who *coordinated the evacuation of the artefacts out of the castle* and into the Upper Ward's inner courtyard
(QE2 also helped in taking things off)
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p Ah, interesting.
@@RampantFury925 They should also have The Queen show more emotion in this scene!
What season is it
season 5
How in the hell did this fire start anyway?
Restoration work was taking place, and a hot lamp was too close to a curtain causing it to catch fire.
Did anyone ever figure out how this fire started?
From what I've read, there was a faulty spotlight in Queen Victoria's library or chapel (I think) and it lit a curtain of fire.
@@introvertontheinternet the current theory is that a curtain in the Private Chapel was touching the spotlight behind it, which caught on fire and when one piece dropped the fire spread
Camilla was smoking and put out her cigarette on a priceless tapestry.
@@SymphonyBrahms won't argue with that part
@@SymphonyBrahms 🤣😂🤣😂
'The Crown' should reflect reality. Monarchy shouldn't be used as real-life soap opera.
The achievement of the British monarchy should become clear in comparison with the histories of other countries. In the 19th & 20th centuries the U.S.A, France, Germany, Russia, Italy, Spain and Greece suffered in various ways civil wars, political storms, and dictatorships. This shows what can go wrong in the absence of a head of state which is above politics, and which opposes illegal dictatorship. If there are many reasons England, Wales, and Scotland have had no civil war since Culloden in 1746, having a constitutional monarchy to unify all the people is an important reason. In the UK, 'peace' in formal speech is "The King's Peace".
Since Elizabeth II died, there has been much publicity, not so much thought about why she matters. Of course Prince Philip could be tactless; he & Elizabeth II made mistakes as parents. Whatever mistakes the royal family have made, let us be grateful for the unity the monarchy gives in the UK & the world. By stabilizing Britain & the commonwealth (e.g. Canada & Australia), it promotes peace in the world. The sea around it didn't protect the U.S.A. against civil war in the 1860s, and the UK could have suffered civil war over slavery in the 19th century; likewise over world war, loss of empire, economic failure, or race in the 20th. There will always be violence and political problems in the world, and billions of people who know or understand nothing of the British monarchy and the stability it brings. Since the 1700s, billions of people have lived under the British crown without civil war, lynching, dictatorship in their lives. God save King Charles III, and his successors.
I am German and personally i am glad we no longer have a monarchy. If the UK is happy with a constitutional monarchy that's fine by me, not everyone has to find the same solution for "head of state". I respect the late Queen Elisabeth II, not for the position she inherited but for the life she led. Still i think the UK was lucky to have her, which is my main point against monarchy. If you get a good monarch, it's luck. If you get a bad apple everyone has to put up with it. With elected heads of state you also get your bad apples, but you can vote them out again.
@@respectfulconversation944 That's why Germany in 1871 or before is not now available a small part of it only exists with the help of allies your territory keeps on decreasing after the abolition and also there is a huge bad reputation you know
@@-B-SaswataRoychoudhuryRKMV I live in Bavaria which historically and culturally had a lot more in common with the Austrian Hapsburg empire than with the northern German territory. It´s the fault of Leopoldine of Bavaria that Bavaria is now a part of Germany because she stopped the union with Hapsburg in 1799 because her husband Karl Theodor would have made the deal if she wouldn´t have prevented it.
But actually i don´t think it matters much today how big a country is or where its borders are. So long as everyone in that country has a good and free life where basic human rights are respected i´m fine. Nationalism is a thing of the past, slow to go away. But i believe there will be a time when it´s no longer important in which country you were born or how big that country is. The European Union is already a step in that direction.
The casting of all the Prince Phillips was the worst in the series.
I would feel sorry for a regular family, poor or middle class, maybe rich too, who loss a home in a fire.
But for the windsors.....
The castle meant a lot to Queen Elizabeth since it was her childhood home
I feel bad for all the historic artifacts were hundreds and hundreds of years old that were lost in the fire.
@@mattbernabe they did not cover it, but they saved the majority of things by forming human chains and passing them to outside.
@@pooftiger I know. I'm talking about the actual incident.
@@mattbernabe so am I. They lost a sideboard, afew pieces' of porcelain , a few chandelier and one painting that has a duplicate elsewhere. It wasn't the disaster it might have been.
Karma for colonization. Deserved far worse if you ask me.
Here we go with wokeism
@@chrysler238 “Wokeism” how? Colonization is just a fact. That’s kinda how you become an “Empire”.
@@chrysler238 You people just throw the word woke at everything even if its factual
Don't cut yourself with all that edge. On second thought, do. it'll save us the trouble.
British Empire did nothing wrong
It's the 21st century. The very notion of retaining a priveliged monarchy is ludicrous