It's so fascinating to me that like 90% of gamers, myself included, just can't bring themselves to be truly evil. Even in complete fantasy worlds on your TV screen.
@@Ludacrisgaronio I wish the world were that simple but unfortunately I do think that there are actual evil people out there. Some people are just wired differently.
@@AL-lh2ht tbh I have only watched videos of others playing it. It's such an amazing looking game but I hate turn based style fighting. But maybe this is the one that'll change that.
@@TheThizzelleI’m also not too big on turn based combat. Turn based is so boring to me. But this game made its turn based combat in a very fun and engaging way that I have grown to love. I highly recommend giving it a try.
The best part of the chat about betraying the tieflings is telling him he’s lucky to not be alive to see the goblins kill the children. He goes “dear god…” the darkest of dark lines
@@VladosBb No, not explicitly, but it's overwhelmingly implied that the goblins _"getting to the children"_ is going to be bad enough that death is a preferable fate to witnessing what the goblins will do once they _"get to them"._ What do you think the goblins are gonna do to the children when they _"get to them"?_ They gonna play dress up with them and raise them up as good little goblins? They gonna tickle them and read them bed time stories? Hmm, I do wonder...what else could _“At least you’ll die before goblins get to the children”_ possibly entail for the children? What could that mean? I do wonder. Hmm, let's see, maaayyybe they're gonna....oh, what's that? *KILL (and probably eat) THEM.* I mean, COME ON, we _really_ gotta be this pedantic? And I'm quite the insufferably pedantic SOB myself, lol
@@sixspense794 it means that if you choose to be good or evil, both paths have in depth and fleshed out details, character reactions and choices for you to make? Dunno how you're confused here.
First playthrough was the Dark Urge. I was... floored by how intertwined that origin story was with the main storyline. It's easily the most in-depth of the lot and I'm more saddened that there isn't an NPC you can encounter and have as part of your team... would be an interesting take on things to have to contend with such a villainous character... :3
It’s actually because there was no intention for tav and dark urge to be choices. Tav was dark urge until they made some decision to retcon it into its own origin character.
@NotEmoney they probably made the decision so that players can have a lighthearted adventure with an OC or a grim dark one. For the best honestly as while I love the dark urge it's definitely a second or third playthrough kinda story.
As the other person said, there was no "custom" MC for most of the development. You'd either play as one of the companions or the Dark Urge. This is why Dark Urge isn't bound to a particular preset. Then a custom Urge-less option was made, which basically merely disables all Dark Urge interactions, while adding nothing else.
Thanks bro, even in a video game I don't have the heart to play as someone genuinely evil I can't, it gives me bad feelings. But seeing the depravity that comes to capture that route is beautiful, that's why I'm glad to see this video.
I tried Durge but the only evil thing I did was killing the druids. I didnt want to but kinda wanted to try having Minthara as companion. Bye bye Wyll and Karlach though
This is why I play the dark urge but resist most of the truly evil things. It creates an interesting narrative of conflict while still holding depravity close to the core
Absolutely, playing holier-than-thou route with Dark Urge feels like a contradiction in itself, and feels kinda bland. But I love this balanced approach though
I have been playing the same way. I've called it my "conflicted Dark Urge" playthrough and its led to some really interesting choices. This game feels like it has endless amounts of possibilities
I think that's how it was meant to be played, if later on you talk to Jaheira she tells you about your character in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and how that character resisted and saved himself, so I'm assuming that's canon and how they want you to play it now 🤔
I play dark urge as a mostly good character. Literally denying the urge every chance I get and only being cruel to those who are cruel. It's fun to watch my character struggle with his past and curse but willing themselves to be better.
@@shoking2677 If you knock Altira out before she comes to your camp, a no-name bard takes her place. You still end up killing *a* bard, but the game at least lets you choose who it is if you're willing to quicksave and savescum to prevent her death specifically. Add in a method to shapeshift and she might not even know who knocked her out either.
We all picked orgin characters for our first MP campagin in my group. We had an urge in the party. "How bad could it be!?" ...The Altira death legit shook us, we had done her song and everything (first playthrough) thought we just gained a bard companion and the murder aftermath was very visceral. It did start a running joke where the entire group goes "oh no? every time our dark urge player talks to someone.
the dark urge has a very interesting story, closely related to the main plot. You can make a complex character with heavy internal conflict and change your destiny, which will make the walkthrough much more emotional than as a regular custom character
Found out i was a "good person" while playing new vegas, i just couldnt help myself to take the bad karma choices. Thanks for uploadong this, some of us will never take these choices so its awesome to se their still there.
some durge spoilers ensue: weirdly enough bg3 is the only game where i've ever had fun playing an evil character in the dark urge, I think the fact that the narrator encourages you definitely contributes a lot to that for me, normally i'd just feel awful, but with the narrator and your character being inherently inclined towards it, it feels more like i'm just playing the character "as intended" as opposed to actually choosing to be an awful person? Not sure, but i've just finished my first playthrough of the game, and I played an evil durge, who enjoyed killing, but still tried to resist it when he could (I was nice to alfira until she died, and I protected the tieflings and didn't kill them, and in act 3 at the very last moment I resisted, and ended up killing myself to protect everyone else), and overall it just felt like I was playing a really interesting fleshed out character, as opposed to just feeling like someone who's evil for no reason and feeling bad about like most games that let you choose to be evil. spoiler free tl;dr: I think they did durge really well, and i'm pleasantly surprised i enjoyed playing an evil character so much, as I normally feel awful, but I think the way they presented it in bg3 made it much more palatable, and even very fun.
Glad im not alone in this. I’ve never been able to be deliberately evil in actual D&D campaigns or in video games. I find myself occasionally healing enemies I sympathize with even though I gain literally nothing from it. I’m currently playing in a D&D campaign where evil is suggested and I picked… a true neutral cleric of the grave. Indifferent to death, but not evil. I end up using spare the dying (stabilizing) guards that the other players have ruthlessly destroyed and I give the excuse of “it’s not their time yet” I can’t stand the icky feeling of constant evil choices. Perhaps I like heroes too much or at least anti-heroes but I just can’t like villains.
Amazing game. My dark urge walked the line between reason and mad violence in act 1. I never trusted the butler just on gut instinct. I thought he was only pretending to be my servant to manipulate me into doing evil shit. Made me realise that the dark urge might not even be *me* and that I could try to resist the urge. Now, I've turned my back on Bhaals' senseless violence and chosen my own path. By no means is my DU good, but he is Bhaals slave no more. He's going to rule the world and preserve it's beauty, slay devils, and cow the very gods if they get his way. DRAMA LOL I LOVE IT
I love a dialogue options that comes up after rejecting bhaal. Its something like “Now that bhaal has no control over you your atrocities will be truly yours alone” and has the narrator give a sick speech
I love playing Dark Urge so much. Some of the interactions are hilarious but the genuine chaos and evil this character is is what makes him so much fun to play 😂😂😂
@@othergeorgea off topic but, isn't it weird that the game gives you like a billion "fuck you Alfira" options and one or two regular options... Makes me think the devs just fuckin hated this character and wanted to make her suffer
I use to always play the “good guy” first in most games but I learned to always play the bad guy first. This way you have no attachment to anyone and these decisions are far easier to make.
I've come to realize about myself that i don't know if i could do an evil dark urge playthrough. The cruelty you can commit is quite shocking. The people at Larian crafted a unique character and experience
I think it's good they provided a murder hobo experience. I don't know if I could ever play him, as I enjoy being the "Lawful" good paladin a little too much (Plus, folk hero has got to be the easiest background for inspirations). But him being in the game lets you really do whatever you want within the bounds of the story. You can, indeed, kill just about everyone good and still continue the game to its completion.
I actually recommend giving it a go, there are options to play dark urge as a good guy, you got work a bit harder to stay a good guy but it’s a full path
@@jonpaulwatts1419 just reached the good Durge ending (as my first solo playthrough as playing a random walking around literal level 20 story characters didn't appeal to me that much). I loved it, felt way more worthy of the title of bg3 than the Tav experience.
@@reksraven6909It’s cause Larian wanted a more watered down version to appeal to a wider audience. I’m still so confused on why they recommend dark urge as a second playthrough considering how essential they are to the story. Should have been durge first then custom origin for a second playthrough
After you kill Alfira, one of the options is to simply go back to bed with the body still there. You can even acknowledge that you did it, and despite some.. choice words from a few party members, no real consequences are had. I wish there were more repercussions for that choice but I love that it's even an option. Also, for whatever reason the game doesn't seem to acknowledge Minthara's death which is really unfortunate. One of the orcs staying behind after the celebrations will say that the rest have followed her onward. And when you get to Moonrise and tell the guard at the door that Minthara sent you, the guard will say she's inside. In general I feel like pure Evil Dark Urge is the most incomplete main character storyline but it is also among the most fun.
@@coops1992 Yep you can save almost everyone. You kill someone (usually Alfira) in a scripted scene early on but that's it. And you can knock out Alfira beforehand to get some random NPC killed instead.
@@MedicalBillz yeah she tries to talk about how you get it since Lolth is a a protective den mother like her. I imagine my drow just stopped jaw dropped and asked "Do you actually know what Lolth does? She is the most vindictive cruel bitch in literally all of the abyss."
I mean, it's as canonical as any other route, considering the main reason the bhaalist cult is so proeminent is because of Sarevoks influence over Orins origin, but Sarevok had a "redemption" on previous games, so him coming back on BG3 - and evil again, to add to it - was more fan service than anything.
I ran a Dark urge/wizard and honestly it was one of the most fun runs i had. like struggling with your past and sometimes losing your shit made a great story
The quote that gets me is if you open the gate and they start asking you why you can respond with “don’t worry you will be long dead before the goblins get to the kids”
Dark Urge is meant to be Chaotic-Evil, you captured the essence of Chaotic-Evil quite well. I preferred playing it as Neutral-Evil, it was far more fun for me. I played the Neutral-Evil as a Tiefling Druid, the Moon Druid specifically. I did the Chaotic-Evil as an Assassin Rogue High Elf.
@@fathergally910 I disagree. I have seen a playthrough of good Urge, I found it boring. The only thing I liked about it is that you find out you are the offspring of a God.
@@SakuragiSayo I think perhaps you should try it for yourself. Cut content has revealed that the original player character was actually the dark urge. The good durge by far has the most story elements.
@@bobjoneswof THIS particular thing is NOT cut content, it's redesigned, they just made Durge into a separate avatar, so that many people can have their gluten-free Tav Durge is pivotal to Baldur's Gate as a Bhaalspawn, but considering how huge audience this game has, and DnD being a big focus, they likely just wanted to make this optional, to not make roleplaying players go like "wtf? why is my character a psychopath with crazy butler?"
It is amazing that you can be THIS psychotic. I enjoyed my evil dark urge playthrough much more than the generic "good guy" horseshit you see in every game which writing is railroaded towards goody two shoes.
I don't remember what i did, but Karlach just appeared out of nowhere and just joined my team. I invited the bard girl to join too, but then i went to have a rest in camp and omg what a surprise night that was 😮
I went oath of vengence and even killing the bard didn't break the oath, it finally broke when I yelled at a corpse to prove to the dog his owner is dead, which triggered combat with the dog
@@yahyahyor If you embrace the murder with glee, you DO fall iirc. You don't fall just for killing her because it really isn't your fault - you weren't even conscious.
I understand you, it requires a cruelty that is difficult to achieve even in video games. But it's certainly great to be able to play as someone I could only describe as "The incarnation of a sin."
Same I played murder-hobo, whose only interaction was "break dialog, fight" half the time... I mean it's in character, but obviously you lose a lot of stuff happening. I mean i had blood pools everywhere in Baldur by the endgame, but apparently i wasn't even close to what could've beed if only i entered proper dialog.
Sad to see Alfira killed and her lute smashed she is one of my favorite non companion characters! =( When I played my Dark Urge I did not end up killing her but some other bard.
Even if I tried to do a full evil Durge playthrough, I could never do that to Karlach. I could get behind killing people who I'm not really close to, but Karlach? Hells no. I feel bad just thinking about it.
While I normally couldn't/wouldn't do an evil playthrough I am SO glad that someone finally made a truly evil playthrough and gave a good attempt at getting into the depths of it. This type of gameplay is something almost all other games refused to even dabble in. It is role playing after all - offer the entire gamut! While it's mostly evil from the viewpoint of someone sadistic, at least it gets fairly deep into it. Would be nice to see other opportunities for the full list of 9 alignments. Regardless, I'm glad they went there (even though I'll never do it myself I'm a sucker for autonomy and people having their choices be their own).
This is the best playthrough. Its like ripping through all the heroic cliches of the fantasy genre in a spectacular and bloody way. I really love Larian for putting this in the game.
Somehow the Lute one hurts me the most. I guess it hits closer to home/is more realistic than all the gore and murder. Plus, the VA knocked it out of the park. I was planning on doing a dark urge playthrough but don't think I can stomach it after this video.
the only thing i hated about the goblin path is that everyone disappears after you snap mintharas neck i was planning on purging all life in act one (except for the owlbear cub and karlach) and that threw a pretty big wrench in my plans since the goblins and the bugbears got away
If you destroy the druid grove before you meet Alfira in your camp (meaning you most likely killed alfira), then you can trigger another npc to come along named Quil Grootslang and she will basically take the role in which Alfira was supposed to play in the camp. Needless to say I was shocked when my durge woke up and the scene triggered.
Durge was just tired of having to build approval for the romance scene, but funny how that dialogue option is the one that reveals some of the Durge's past.
I picked dark urge because i wasnt paying much attention at first, and im making my character essentially go from a crazed murderer before, to soneone having actual morals, due to loving the conflict between dark urges and normal behaviour
I hesitated for the longest time when i was in character creation on whether or not play the dark urge In the end I decided that, for my 1st run I wanted to experience the game with a lighter background (well I still chose to play a rogue assassin Drow, Lolth worshiper, chaotic neutral). So yeah, I wanted to see how the game worked beforehand and I think I did the right thing ; I think that playing the dark urge on my 1st run might have been too overwhelming for me. It's my 1st Baldur's Gate, I have played Divinity 2 before but never a dnd inspired game, so it was already a lot to take in without a very heavy background to take in as well. . I'm having great fun with my morally ambiguous Drow and I'm looking forward to play a chaotic 2nd run as the dark urge ❤😊
In my friends and I's playthrough, they voted to stake Astarion when he revealed himself to be a vampire. I prayed that the skill check fails, but it didn't, and I had to watch him be killed like a mutt 🤧 We reloaded but that was already too much.
I love Durge, you can be a run of the mill serial killer or complex soul like that guy from Mimento or fight the urge and be good boy. I love when being evil has shades.
Bg3 warns that dark urge probably should be played first time but i disagree, mainly for the fact that you can still be morally good even as urge, infact it just makes your heroic all the more great because it does not come easy to you, its empowering and its also way for your character to be connected to the main story.
Same reason I chose the Urge as my first ran. And as a paladin no less. Sure I broke my oath almost instantly, but after being convinced by the Oathbreaker, keeping up the good while using dark means was just infinitely more fun.
I think I wanna do Dark Urge first play through so that the carnage doesn’t make sense. And then second play through maybe a Good run turning Shadowheart from Bad to Good. I haven’t beaten the game yet but I’m willing to give it a go for story sake. Like the Dark Urge is the Darkness, reincarnated into Tav to save Faerun. Headcannon lol Tav has the memories of his evil self in a parallel universe. Idk if the multiverse is canon in DnD but it’s fun to mess around with
I believe that the route has two options exactly, in which you refuse the Dark Urge, which I suppose, as I do, is the route that many follow. And the one in which you embody and accept it, I have to say that it is a masterful route, but it requires a cruelty that I am not willing to take even in video games and that as a doctor I have seen horrible things.
@@Ja_ich259 That's right, I am an emergency doctor, and although I usually make difficult decisions in the emergency room, they are normally to seek the greatest benefit for the patient. But deliberately making a bad decision knowing the consequences is something that simply makes me feel bad, even when it's a video game.
How did u get the cut scene after killing everyone in the camp? I've tried multiple times and killed them all but it's seems bugged and i just keep getting her scene where she says there are more left kill them all but there is no one left!
I just got the game a few days ago and decided to make this my first playthrough and i made it about 8 hours in before accidentally killing the bard girl... I felt so terrible and guilty and I would up putting the playthrough on hold indefinitely, I felt so terrible making it as far as I did after killing her, this game really makes you feel
I am planning on an evil playthrough and I am obviously choosing Dark Urge, but what I wonder is if there is a Dark Urge where the plot revolves around trying to not kill people while contending with it, or if the whole plot of it is your have to do it. Not sure, but oh well
Regardless of whatever origin character you choose to play as, you can play their story however you want. If you want to play Wyll killing all the tieflings, you can. It's only your companions that have a "preset" moral compass and will stay or leave depending on your actions.
Somehow video volume got lowered during upload, you might struggle to hear it without headphones
I don't like to hear woke voices 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I barely hear it even with headphones.
good thing i was born with a headset on
Okay, I questioned my ears for a min. I was like, I have everything on 100 volume, very hard to hear
My guy, good compilation but for the love of the Absolute, keep your choice hovered over for more than a microsecond.
Typical Dark Urge party is Astarion, Shadowheart, and Lae'zel, because everyone else is utterly appalled by you
Minthara is the best partner for the Durge. Absolute depravity follows after getting her "out", even with her apparently being bugged.
@@Pablud3S I haven't reached the part where she can be part of the party :o
walks to moonrise just a little faster
@@Pablud3S also, you can snap her neck if you sleep with her, which means she probably isnt a party member if you do so
Yeah, I hate that. My first playthrough being good was with Laezel and Shadowheart and now I can only have them as companions being evil
@@sebastianventura4964 such is the life of an evil bastard 😔
Dark Urge: I murdered someone last night and ate their organs.
Companions: Okay, try not to do it again.
😂😂Just a casual dark urge evening.
with a nice chianti
Astarion: "Could you try to be more discrete next time?"
@@yahyahyorAstarion - Maybe
It's nice to have friends who understand and tolerate your minor quirks
It's so fascinating to me that like 90% of gamers, myself included, just can't bring themselves to be truly evil. Even in complete fantasy worlds on your TV screen.
I think that for human its just not natural to be pure evil, people that we think are pure evil are just insane with mental problems
@@Ludacrisgaronio I wish the world were that simple but unfortunately I do think that there are actual evil people out there. Some people are just wired differently.
You can role play it to avoid most dark urge moments. Only a few are mandatory.
@@AL-lh2ht tbh I have only watched videos of others playing it. It's such an amazing looking game but I hate turn based style fighting. But maybe this is the one that'll change that.
@@TheThizzelleI’m also not too big on turn based combat. Turn based is so boring to me. But this game made its turn based combat in a very fun and engaging way that I have grown to love. I highly recommend giving it a try.
At first, having a narrator felt so weird.
Now I can't imagine the game without her.
shes the gm
It was the same in Divinity Original Sin 2. THey did a truly exceptional job casting both narrators.
Same with Disco Elysium.
I wasn't a fan at first seeing it in EA videos on yt. But once I played it full release I really liked it.
The Darkest Dungeon games wouldn't be the same without the Narrator either
The best part of the chat about betraying the tieflings is telling him he’s lucky to not be alive to see the goblins kill the children. He goes “dear god…” the darkest of dark lines
This is brutal af
Play a cleric and offer to pray with Mayrina. I tried it with a lolth sworn drow cleric. She did not like my eulogy.
The dialogue doesn’t mention killing children, it says : “At least you’ll die before goblins get to the children”
@@VladosBb
No, not explicitly, but it's overwhelmingly implied that the goblins _"getting to the children"_ is going to be bad enough that death is a preferable fate to witnessing what the goblins will do once they _"get to them"._ What do you think the goblins are gonna do to the children when they _"get to them"?_ They gonna play dress up with them and raise them up as good little goblins? They gonna tickle them and read them bed time stories? Hmm, I do wonder...what else could _“At least you’ll die before goblins get to the children”_ possibly entail for the children? What could that mean? I do wonder. Hmm, let's see, maaayyybe they're gonna....oh, what's that? *KILL (and probably eat) THEM.*
I mean, COME ON, we _really_ gotta be this pedantic? And I'm quite the insufferably pedantic SOB myself, lol
That's exactly the point of my comment bruh@@donnydogpiss4533
I am absolutely stunned how 180° this game turns by playing and choosing differently and how in-depth it goes into that direction. Amazing!
What the hell does this even mean???
@@sixspense794 it means that if you choose to be good or evil, both paths have in depth and fleshed out details, character reactions and choices for you to make? Dunno how you're confused here.
@@iwsfilm_ didn’t specify what direction? Dunno how that makes any sense, but I guess the dude is foreign or you’re illiterate.
@@iwsfilm_ then say both directions?? Not singular. Tf??
@@sixspense794 stop embarrassing yourself. Stay strong fellow american. We will rule all one day
Gale: give me a hand
Dark Urge: Ok
Gale: I don't mean literally
*takes hand
Gale: "Take my hand".
Dark Urge: "Thanks, bud".
“Give me a hand!”
No, you.
you first
Ah! Chicken Fingers!
The Dark Urge is literally “What if your intrusive thoughts were a badass dragon” lmaoo
First playthrough was the Dark Urge. I was... floored by how intertwined that origin story was with the main storyline. It's easily the most in-depth of the lot and I'm more saddened that there isn't an NPC you can encounter and have as part of your team... would be an interesting take on things to have to contend with such a villainous character... :3
It’s actually because there was no intention for tav and dark urge to be choices. Tav was dark urge until they made some decision to retcon it into its own origin character.
@@NotEmoneythat makes a lot of sense
But the story is boring idk why
@NotEmoney they probably made the decision so that players can have a lighthearted adventure with an OC or a grim dark one. For the best honestly as while I love the dark urge it's definitely a second or third playthrough kinda story.
As the other person said, there was no "custom" MC for most of the development. You'd either play as one of the companions or the Dark Urge. This is why Dark Urge isn't bound to a particular preset.
Then a custom Urge-less option was made, which basically merely disables all Dark Urge interactions, while adding nothing else.
Thanks bro, even in a video game I don't have the heart to play as someone genuinely evil I can't, it gives me bad feelings.
But seeing the depravity that comes to capture that route is beautiful, that's why I'm glad to see this video.
My drow is pretty evil but dark urge makes him look like a puppy lol
yeah i dont have it in me and i have no urge to
hahahahah same. i tried it out and right after ripping off gale's hand i just stared at my screen like damn this aint it for me
I tried Durge but the only evil thing I did was killing the druids. I didnt want to but kinda wanted to try having Minthara as companion. Bye bye Wyll and Karlach though
@@4hoofdjust reload and resist temptation, the dark urge is literally the intended protagonist
This is why I play the dark urge but resist most of the truly evil things. It creates an interesting narrative of conflict while still holding depravity close to the core
Absolutely, playing holier-than-thou route with Dark Urge feels like a contradiction in itself, and feels kinda bland. But I love this balanced approach though
I have been playing the same way. I've called it my "conflicted Dark Urge" playthrough and its led to some really interesting choices. This game feels like it has endless amounts of possibilities
I think that's how it was meant to be played, if later on you talk to Jaheira she tells you about your character in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 and how that character resisted and saved himself, so I'm assuming that's canon and how they want you to play it now 🤔
Dark Urge Fantasizing about drowning that little boy near the harpies is too funny
See this is why I don't play as The Urge. Its literally just too much for me, especially with Karlach who is an adorable puppy.
The only thing that it forces you to do is kill Altira. You can avoid all the other kills.
I play dark urge as a mostly good character. Literally denying the urge every chance I get and only being cruel to those who are cruel. It's fun to watch my character struggle with his past and curse but willing themselves to be better.
@@shoking2677 If you knock Altira out before she comes to your camp, a no-name bard takes her place. You still end up killing *a* bard, but the game at least lets you choose who it is if you're willing to quicksave and savescum to prevent her death specifically. Add in a method to shapeshift and she might not even know who knocked her out either.
We all picked orgin characters for our first MP campagin in my group. We had an urge in the party.
"How bad could it be!?"
...The Altira death legit shook us, we had done her song and everything (first playthrough) thought we just gained a bard companion and the murder aftermath was very visceral. It did start a running joke where the entire group goes "oh no? every time our dark urge player talks to someone.
the dark urge has a very interesting story, closely related to the main plot. You can make a complex character with heavy internal conflict and change your destiny, which will make the walkthrough much more emotional than as a regular custom character
Your custom character really sells these well. The facial expressions make it look like I'm watching a real villain story.
This is actually the default design when picking Dark Urge. So people are treating this as how Durge canonically looks.
@@PikminFan4considering the corpse in a certain room on non-Durge runs, I’m pretty sure it IS.
@@PikminFan4 I think he changed the scales on the character's jaw. The default Dark Urge has the really pointy ones.
Found out i was a "good person" while playing new vegas, i just couldnt help myself to take the bad karma choices. Thanks for uploadong this, some of us will never take these choices so its awesome to se their still there.
Watching my sister play games like this gives me second-hand guilt. _Mean_ choices stress me out, let alone down right evil ones
I've never been able to do it either, makes me feel horrible lol even though I know its not real
some durge spoilers ensue:
weirdly enough bg3 is the only game where i've ever had fun playing an evil character in the dark urge, I think the fact that the narrator encourages you definitely contributes a lot to that for me, normally i'd just feel awful, but with the narrator and your character being inherently inclined towards it, it feels more like i'm just playing the character "as intended" as opposed to actually choosing to be an awful person? Not sure, but i've just finished my first playthrough of the game, and I played an evil durge, who enjoyed killing, but still tried to resist it when he could (I was nice to alfira until she died, and I protected the tieflings and didn't kill them, and in act 3 at the very last moment I resisted, and ended up killing myself to protect everyone else), and overall it just felt like I was playing a really interesting fleshed out character, as opposed to just feeling like someone who's evil for no reason and feeling bad about like most games that let you choose to be evil.
spoiler free tl;dr:
I think they did durge really well, and i'm pleasantly surprised i enjoyed playing an evil character so much, as I normally feel awful, but I think the way they presented it in bg3 made it much more palatable, and even very fun.
Glad im not alone in this. I’ve never been able to be deliberately evil in actual D&D campaigns or in video games. I find myself occasionally healing enemies I sympathize with even though I gain literally nothing from it. I’m currently playing in a D&D campaign where evil is suggested and I picked… a true neutral cleric of the grave. Indifferent to death, but not evil. I end up using spare the dying (stabilizing) guards that the other players have ruthlessly destroyed and I give the excuse of “it’s not their time yet”
I can’t stand the icky feeling of constant evil choices. Perhaps I like heroes too much or at least anti-heroes but I just can’t like villains.
Most people tend to stick to their identity, even in a game where no one else is watching
Truly captured the essence of its true name: The Murder Hobo
Amazing game. My dark urge walked the line between reason and mad violence in act 1. I never trusted the butler just on gut instinct. I thought he was only pretending to be my servant to manipulate me into doing evil shit. Made me realise that the dark urge might not even be *me* and that I could try to resist the urge. Now, I've turned my back on Bhaals' senseless violence and chosen my own path. By no means is my DU good, but he is Bhaals slave no more. He's going to rule the world and preserve it's beauty, slay devils, and cow the very gods if they get his way. DRAMA LOL I LOVE IT
I love a dialogue options that comes up after rejecting bhaal. Its something like “Now that bhaal has no control over you your atrocities will be truly yours alone” and has the narrator give a sick speech
Dark Urge is basically " The Devil made me do it"
But this time it’s true, for once….
*Spoilers*
Well, more of a god than a devil.
I love playing Dark Urge so much. Some of the interactions are hilarious but the genuine chaos and evil this character is is what makes him so much fun to play 😂😂😂
I'm doing a good aligned oathbreaker dark urge, its so much fun to fight the temptations and occasionally fail
@@Serpentaxuk no
Killing Karlach is actually the only true evil act you can do.
Nah breaking that lute takes it for me
I feel like dooming gale to die in his weird portal is pretty bad too
@@othergeorgea off topic but, isn't it weird that the game gives you like a billion "fuck you Alfira" options and one or two regular options...
Makes me think the devs just fuckin hated this character and wanted to make her suffer
Well, you can massacre emerald grove and the refugees, children included, I’d argue that’s far worse than killing karlach.
I use to always play the “good guy” first in most games but I learned to always play the bad guy first. This way you have no attachment to anyone and these decisions are far easier to make.
i dont know why but its the betrayals that hurt me the most, like when their smile drops
I've come to realize about myself that i don't know if i could do an evil dark urge playthrough. The cruelty you can commit is quite shocking. The people at Larian crafted a unique character and experience
I think it's good they provided a murder hobo experience. I don't know if I could ever play him, as I enjoy being the "Lawful" good paladin a little too much (Plus, folk hero has got to be the easiest background for inspirations).
But him being in the game lets you really do whatever you want within the bounds of the story. You can, indeed, kill just about everyone good and still continue the game to its completion.
I actually recommend giving it a go, there are options to play dark urge as a good guy, you got work a bit harder to stay a good guy but it’s a full path
@@jonpaulwatts1419 just reached the good Durge ending (as my first solo playthrough as playing a random walking around literal level 20 story characters didn't appeal to me that much). I loved it, felt way more worthy of the title of bg3 than the Tav experience.
@@reksraven6909It’s cause Larian wanted a more watered down version to appeal to a wider audience. I’m still so confused on why they recommend dark urge as a second playthrough considering how essential they are to the story. Should have been durge first then custom origin for a second playthrough
Its too messed up, I couldn't do it
and then he snaps her neck at the end, rooofl..
the dark urge is friggen hillarious
She most useless companion so nothing of value is lost.
@@Rihardololzhow so? Is Paladin bad?
@@vitorsamuel777 You wasting companion spot with her.
you can rip the wings off the bluebird as nettie is trying to heal it
Really? I couldn't do that and I played as Urge.
@@mweeeeYou can only tap it twice and it’ll die, I think
After you kill Alfira, one of the options is to simply go back to bed with the body still there. You can even acknowledge that you did it, and despite some.. choice words from a few party members, no real consequences are had. I wish there were more repercussions for that choice but I love that it's even an option.
Also, for whatever reason the game doesn't seem to acknowledge Minthara's death which is really unfortunate. One of the orcs staying behind after the celebrations will say that the rest have followed her onward. And when you get to Moonrise and tell the guard at the door that Minthara sent you, the guard will say she's inside.
In general I feel like pure Evil Dark Urge is the most incomplete main character storyline but it is also among the most fun.
I was tempted to break Minthara's neck, but as I thought, that would take away a lot of the plot
Can u save the grove and tieflings as durge?
@@coops1992 Yep you can save almost everyone. You kill someone (usually Alfira) in a scripted scene early on but that's it. And you can knock out Alfira beforehand to get some random NPC killed instead.
thanks for uploading this you're the only person to show everything
if you'e a drow dark urge, in viper kagha scene she is like: finally, somebody who can understand me!
A drow dark urge is basically a drow lol
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Yes@@maxred371
She says that if you're a drow period
@@MedicalBillz yeah she tries to talk about how you get it since Lolth is a a protective den mother like her. I imagine my drow just stopped jaw dropped and asked "Do you actually know what Lolth does? She is the most vindictive cruel bitch in literally all of the abyss."
Dark Urge is like the canonical route, considering what happens later on and how it connects to Baldurs Gate 2 story.
Yeah, but even Dark Urge isn't a singular route. I'd argue that redemption is the canonical route for Dark Urge.
I mean, it's as canonical as any other route, considering the main reason the bhaalist cult is so proeminent is because of Sarevoks influence over Orins origin, but Sarevok had a "redemption" on previous games, so him coming back on BG3 - and evil again, to add to it - was more fan service than anything.
Nah, not really
newcomer to the Baldurs Gate series so idk too much about Sarevok, but wouldnt it be possible that he had a relapse?
I’ve been trying to play a good dark urge run, where I try to fight the urge. It’s been really interesting
I ran a Dark urge/wizard and honestly it was one of the most fun runs i had. like struggling with your past and sometimes losing your shit made a great story
The quote that gets me is if you open the gate and they start asking you why you can respond with “don’t worry you will be long dead before the goblins get to the kids”
Dark Urge is meant to be Chaotic-Evil, you captured the essence of Chaotic-Evil quite well. I preferred playing it as Neutral-Evil, it was far more fun for me. I played the Neutral-Evil as a Tiefling Druid, the Moon Druid specifically. I did the Chaotic-Evil as an Assassin Rogue High Elf.
The good dark urge is the best version imo. There seems to be more story surrounding it than the evil option.
good durge by far the best durge
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I disagree. I have seen a playthrough of good Urge, I found it boring. The only thing I liked about it is that you find out you are the offspring of a God.
@@SakuragiSayo I think perhaps you should try it for yourself. Cut content has revealed that the original player character was actually the dark urge. The good durge by far has the most story elements.
@@bobjoneswof THIS particular thing is NOT cut content, it's redesigned, they just made Durge into a separate avatar, so that many people can have their gluten-free Tav
Durge is pivotal to Baldur's Gate as a Bhaalspawn, but considering how huge audience this game has, and DnD being a big focus, they likely just wanted to make this optional, to not make roleplaying players go like "wtf? why is my character a psychopath with crazy butler?"
Karlach and the bard made me pretty sad actually... I was um, not expecting that.
It is amazing that you can be THIS psychotic. I enjoyed my evil dark urge playthrough much more than the generic "good guy" horseshit you see in every game which writing is railroaded towards goody two shoes.
@@foulXD Got to be a special kind of twisted to fully enjoy the evil path.
I don't remember what i did, but Karlach just appeared out of nowhere and just joined my team. I invited the bard girl to join too, but then i went to have a rest in camp and omg what a surprise night that was 😮
*astorion approves*
Dark Urge playing Paladin is just an accident waiting to happen xD
I went oath of vengence and even killing the bard didn't break the oath, it finally broke when I yelled at a corpse to prove to the dog his owner is dead, which triggered combat with the dog
@@RoyaltyFreeName hahaha 🤣
Not if you go in trying to play an Oathbreaker Paladin ;)
@@RoyaltyFreeName They're okay with you killing an innocent girl but not screaming at a dog xD thats hilarious
@@yahyahyor If you embrace the murder with glee, you DO fall iirc. You don't fall just for killing her because it really isn't your fault - you weren't even conscious.
This really has made me realise how fucking evil astorion and Lazel are.
Only Astarion, not Lae'zel
Great content! Thank for uploading I’ve been looking for something like this
It should've been called intrusive thoughts. Lmao
Aaaand now I understand that I didn’t play DU right… Couldn’t push myself to be even half as cruel as this guy.
I understand you, it requires a cruelty that is difficult to achieve even in video games. But it's certainly great to be able to play as someone I could only describe as "The incarnation of a sin."
@@jshiffer5676 yes. Still, I chose redemption and sacrificed myself to save the world. Must admit, it was pure joy from this role play.
Same
I played murder-hobo, whose only interaction was "break dialog, fight" half the time... I mean it's in character, but obviously you lose a lot of stuff happening.
I mean i had blood pools everywhere in Baldur by the endgame, but apparently i wasn't even close to what could've beed if only i entered proper dialog.
Dark Urge is my favorite playthrough. Chewing off Gale's hand really sold it for me.
Ty for uploading this, it would’ve been hard for me to go through a dark urge play through
Sad to see Alfira killed and her lute smashed she is one of my favorite non companion characters! =( When I played my Dark Urge I did not end up killing her but some other bard.
You only get the other bard if you took the goblins side and they kill everyone, including her, before you sleep. Or she dies some other way.
I know, shes my fav character as well! but the durge route is really cool and it keeps getting better
0:33
"I am not in danger, Narrator. I AM the danger!"
- Walter Urge
4:20 If you pass the Persuasion check you can have a URGE Monologue on breaking each on of her toes one by one.
I thought I had some sense of the dark urge but this is absolutely depraved.
Even if I tried to do a full evil Durge playthrough, I could never do that to Karlach. I could get behind killing people who I'm not really close to, but Karlach? Hells no. I feel bad just thinking about it.
Killing Karlach is not restricted to the Dark Urge. Wyll will kill her if you don't talk sense into him.
@@MidNight-fw8zq But killing her this way is restricted to Durge? I'm not sure because out of all my playthroughs I never killed her.
@okmate No you only have to cut her head off if you talk to the paladins of Tyr and they want you to bring her head back for a reward
I like playing as the dark urge, mainly cuz its a test run, my urge seeks the forces that command it and wishes to end their “control”
While I normally couldn't/wouldn't do an evil playthrough I am SO glad that someone finally made a truly evil playthrough and gave a good attempt at getting into the depths of it. This type of gameplay is something almost all other games refused to even dabble in. It is role playing after all - offer the entire gamut!
While it's mostly evil from the viewpoint of someone sadistic, at least it gets fairly deep into it. Would be nice to see other opportunities for the full list of 9 alignments. Regardless, I'm glad they went there (even though I'll never do it myself I'm a sucker for autonomy and people having their choices be their own).
Isent there a scene where instead of being disgusted with the birth of a Knoll, you find it as the one would the miracle of birth of something cute
yes there is
This is the best playthrough. Its like ripping through all the heroic cliches of the fantasy genre in a spectacular and bloody way. I really love Larian for putting this in the game.
you just swapped heroic cliches with villainous ones
Somehow the Lute one hurts me the most. I guess it hits closer to home/is more realistic than all the gore and murder. Plus, the VA knocked it out of the park.
I was planning on doing a dark urge playthrough but don't think I can stomach it after this video.
You can do a “good” Dark Urge playthrough
Bruh Karlachs head being chopped off
Lost it, when he kicked the squirrel 😂
The fade to red is a good touch to signal you gave into the urge
17:49
Goblin “Ah you fiend! I’ll teach you some respect”
*proceeds to trip from missing a toe*
"All you remember is.... FUS RO DAH"
the only thing i hated about the goblin path is that everyone disappears after you snap mintharas neck
i was planning on purging all life in act one (except for the owlbear cub and karlach) and that threw a pretty big wrench in my plans since the goblins and the bugbears got away
Couldn't you just go back to the Goblin camp and kill them there?
I just wanna mention the little head shake before destroying the lute at 10:06 gave me quite the chuckle
If you destroy the druid grove before you meet Alfira in your camp (meaning you most likely killed alfira), then you can trigger another npc to come along named Quil Grootslang and she will basically take the role in which Alfira was supposed to play in the camp. Needless to say I was shocked when my durge woke up and the scene triggered.
10:18 "Animal House" like the "Wilhelm Scream" has found its way into everything.
this game is so incredibly magnificent, when you lifted harlachs head in the air ( my favorite companion) I was physically sick. I love it.
I love how you picked oath of vengemace paladin class because it fits Dark Urge very well.
So basically, the dark urges play through is what happens when you let your intrusive thoughts win… And get rewarded for acting on them!
17:49 - 17:53 Perfect transition cut lol, no respect taught
Trying to play a good dark urge and boy is the playthrough a wild ride
Video is so quiet so I had to turn it up, the ad that later ensued deafened me.
14:11 OMG reintroducing? Durge really was just the worst in their old life.
Durge was just tired of having to build approval for the romance scene, but funny how that dialogue option is the one that reveals some of the Durge's past.
Lol, what do you think happened for the rest of the night after snapping the paladin's neck?
Evil campaign? Let's go!!!
Goddamn... the dark urge is us roleplaying as "that guy" that appears in all of those Rpg Horror stories huh?
Atleast if you dont resist yes pretty much lol.
I picked dark urge because i wasnt paying much attention at first, and im making my character essentially go from a crazed murderer before, to soneone having actual morals, due to loving the conflict between dark urges and normal behaviour
The cape that butler gives you was such a good item to get so early for the rest of the playthrough.
I hesitated for the longest time when i was in character creation on whether or not play the dark urge
In the end I decided that, for my 1st run I wanted to experience the game with a lighter background (well I still chose to play a rogue assassin Drow, Lolth worshiper, chaotic neutral).
So yeah, I wanted to see how the game worked beforehand and I think I did the right thing ; I think that playing the dark urge on my 1st run might have been too overwhelming for me.
It's my 1st Baldur's Gate, I have played Divinity 2 before but never a dnd inspired game, so it was already a lot to take in without a very heavy background to take in as well.
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I'm having great fun with my morally ambiguous Drow and I'm looking forward to play a chaotic 2nd run as the dark urge ❤😊
dark urge is a savage
I have only one thing to say after watching that... Holy shit!
BG3 really called a lot of peoples bluffs about wanting to be irredeemable psychos in games 😂
Seem to be missing the underdark scenes such as unlocking the butler memory if you consume the noblestalk.
It's missing quite a few from Act 1
I’ve only finished the game once as a lawful neutral but seeing this video I couldn’t even finish it I felt so bad 💀
same, i just can't
Damn he really broke Drow mommy’s neck
With horns like that, finding a good head position on a pillow must really suck.
In my friends and I's playthrough, they voted to stake Astarion when he revealed himself to be a vampire. I prayed that the skill check fails, but it didn't, and I had to watch him be killed like a mutt 🤧 We reloaded but that was already too much.
Screw that, no one likes Astarion. Maybe if he was less foppish, but no 😂
@@oluftheexplorer9476 I don't know what part of the community you're in, but pretty much everyone loves Astarion on this side.
The foppishness is funny to me and a big part of why i like him.
I love Durge, you can be a run of the mill serial killer or complex soul like that guy from Mimento or fight the urge and be good boy. I love when being evil has shades.
Going full Dark Urge is what peak looks like.
CZcams recommend this as "you might like this"
I am laughing so muvh, Astarion aporoves so many evil choices 😂😂😂
Bg3 warns that dark urge probably should be played first time but i disagree, mainly for the fact that you can still be morally good even as urge, infact it just makes your heroic all the more great because it does not come easy to you, its empowering and its also way for your character to be connected to the main story.
Same reason I chose the Urge as my first ran. And as a paladin no less. Sure I broke my oath almost instantly, but after being convinced by the Oathbreaker, keeping up the good while using dark means was just infinitely more fun.
I think I wanna do Dark Urge first play through so that the carnage doesn’t make sense. And then second play through maybe a Good run turning Shadowheart from Bad to Good.
I haven’t beaten the game yet but I’m willing to give it a go for story sake. Like the Dark Urge is the Darkness, reincarnated into Tav to save Faerun. Headcannon lol Tav has the memories of his evil self in a parallel universe. Idk if the multiverse is canon in DnD but it’s fun to mess around with
I'm sorry but 8:44 the jumpcut from Karlach arming herself and preparing for battle to her dead body is so sudden it kills me LMFAO
Thanks for doing this so I NEVER have to even try it. Sick.
I believe that the route has two options exactly, in which you refuse the Dark Urge, which I suppose, as I do, is the route that many follow.
And the one in which you embody and accept it, I have to say that it is a masterful route, but it requires a cruelty that I am not willing to take even in video games and that as a doctor I have seen horrible things.
I am just finishing up my good dark urge playthrough, there are indeed a few different origin endings
I cant take it BECAUSE im a doctor. Seeing death and misery every day is enough, I dont need this in my playthrough.
@@Ja_ich259 That's right, I am an emergency doctor, and although I usually make difficult decisions in the emergency room, they are normally to seek the greatest benefit for the patient. But deliberately making a bad decision knowing the consequences is something that simply makes me feel bad, even when it's a video game.
17:44 - 17:54
The comedic timing is so spot-on
I accidentally went to the mountain at the beginning and immediately lost the whole story with the grove
How did u get the cut scene after killing everyone in the camp? I've tried multiple times and killed them all but it's seems bugged and i just keep getting her scene where she says there are more left kill them all but there is no one left!
My main character is aggressive and blunt but holy crap I could never play this evil
I'm trying to play as a pacifist githyanki monk dark urge. I gave up in act 1 because it's impossible not to kill for many quests
Can't you just switch on non lethal damage? Go the batman route where you never kill only gravely injure when they force your hand
You missed one, if you long rest immediately before recruiting anyone on the beach you get a dream
Cutting off Karlachs head is a basic option in any playthrough, the paladins of Tyr next door literally ask Tav to bring her head as proof
Ah yes, paladins of zar- I mean, Tyr
I just got the game a few days ago and decided to make this my first playthrough and i made it about 8 hours in before accidentally killing the bard girl... I felt so terrible and guilty and I would up putting the playthrough on hold indefinitely, I felt so terrible making it as far as I did after killing her, this game really makes you feel
I am planning on an evil playthrough and I am obviously choosing Dark Urge, but what I wonder is if there is a Dark Urge where the plot revolves around trying to not kill people while contending with it, or if the whole plot of it is your have to do it. Not sure, but oh well
Regardless of whatever origin character you choose to play as, you can play their story however you want. If you want to play Wyll killing all the tieflings, you can. It's only your companions that have a "preset" moral compass and will stay or leave depending on your actions.
Actually there is a plot of fighting your dark urge and getting rid of it, like a whole redemption arc.
@@overlorddez3926 & considering who the dark urge really is before their memory loss it is one hell of a redemption arc too
Even the scariest and most horrifying video games could not compare this video. Omg!
I'm recently close to finishing my second playthrough which is on Dark Urge. Absolutely love it