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@@cjnf11 It's not the shallow, you're just stuck in mass effect mode and not paying attention. Also words mean things, context matters, and those are not the words and context used. Now go dull your edge before you cut yourself with it.
i had to. i killed kagha cuz they told me all the problems would be solved if i did, but it ended up killing everyone in the grove, and if u do that, she refuses to join you so I figured I might as well kill her for Wyll
Plenty of people kill her. She is useless on an evil playthrough. And annoying on a more neutral one. Being lectured on morality by someone who eats souls for fun just is not my thing.
No reward in this game could ever make me harm Karlach. She may look scary at first, but she's got the personality of a golden retriever. She's just too lovable.
@@dekay1428 I mean, she is a Tiefling known to be an absolute beast of a warrior with a literal Infernal Steel Engine for a heart. That sounds pretty messed up if you ask me.
Idk. When I met her she was all "HOW DARE YOU KILL THOSE DRUIDS RAWR" like calm down bish. They're just druids. That's like being upset over your neighbor swatting a fly.
Kind of a weird line considering she was saying it to someone she knows is literally just there to kill her. IMO breaks the immersion a bit, its the writers saying "this is not what you were supposed to do".
@@X_Potato she had hope that Wyll or someone would try to see reason even after looking through her eyes. And in the end, that’s all see wants is a friend she don’t have to be wary for. She not in the Hells anymore
@@lpmatte93 in the context of the setting you are not anybody yet, as far as she knows your nobody other than someone who also happens to have a tadpole in their head.
Thank you sir, for telling me the consequences of killing Karlach. I'm now going to start a new game, where I max level her, give her all the best barbarians gears and romance her over again. Cheer.
Recommendation? Near full Bonespike, apart from the gloves. The gloves are the Thermoarcanic Gloves that give Heat for dealing fire damage, and the Hellfire Greataxe, which gives heat for hitting with it. Oh, and the Cindermoth Cape. She has been SPANKING with that setup.
Wyll told me he needed to kill Karlach so I went and did it, taking her out from afar. Chopped her head off for the paladins, then went back to Wyll feeling very badass. Then he starts on about "was it the right choice?" and I'm like "wait, it was a choice??"
I really like the dynamic of Wyll and Karlach. They're such good characters if you can convince Wyll to spare here. It doesn't go great for Wyll but I love the strong bond that forms between them.
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 I agree with this, I felt pretty bad when withers basically called my other party members incels cause I romanced and was loyal to karlach. He's like damn bro why you aint gettin none?
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 yeah I wish this were possible, I’d put Karlach and Wyll together, Gale and Astarion together, and Shadowheart and Laezel together. And I’ll take Halsin.
I'd take her to devil court for the "heartless" clause in the contract, as it did not specify as to what is defined by "heartless", as she implies that the contract ment "having no heart", this violates this part as the infernal engine that was placed in Karlach's chest is by definition a heart. Crude, prostetic heart, but still a heart, as such, by the law of Nine Hells the contract has been breached, and the cheating devil needs to be punished.
Nope. By definition the infernal Engine ISN'T a heart. It doesn't pulse, it only keeps her alive acting as fuel. A heart, by definition is: "S hollow muscular organ that pumps the blood through the circulatory system by rhythmic contraction and dilation. In vertebrates there may be up to four chambers (as in humans), with two atria and two ventricles." The infernal Engine doesn't pump blood nor it contracts or dilates. So your case is forfeit, you can go now dear Ta-ta!
@@RubyRoseITA this is a modern definition of a heart, it would not be able to be derived from research, we are currently capable of conducting, as such the contract is still been breached, as it has not been stated what does the patron concider heartless. I took my infernal law studies very seriously
@@nightmareraven3045 Welll you should re-do your studies, dear! By the law of the nine hells the devil who makes the contract isn't forced to specify any kind of detail in their contract, that is the human's duty, afterall Wyll had the chance to add detaiils or even change the contract before signing it! Therefore, by heartless, that means everyone who doesn't have a heart by definition! And... Modern definition? You do know that definition, in the "real" world was invented even before steam was found? Aaaand... The D&D world is in the middle of a steam-era. Just think about the fact we have newspapers, or even a fully fledged hospital in the shadow cursed lands! Considering that hospital is one of the hospitals used during the invention of lobotomy, where medicine was at one of its peaks... Yeah, i'd say the definition is already valid. Centuries must pass before you can beat me in a law fight, mortal, ta-ta!
@@nightmareraven3045If they got an erinyes to act as defense it may have worked. They act as truly helpful lawyers. Yes, even if it means not damning them.
So, in actual contract law she would be in violation of intent. Generally speaking, one uses the ordinary meaning of a word in order to determine what the intent for that contract is. The word heartless generally means someone who is without empathy, as that is the general meaning of the word that is how literally every court would adjudicate it as. Unless the contract specifically identifies heartless as meaning somebody who lacks a heart you cannot use "technically they don't have a heart anyways" as a defense. Now this becomes important when you realize that both parties in a contract are beholden to said contract. She is just as bound by contract as he is, it's not like she can't not give him powers If he's doing what he's supposed to and it's not like she can just decide how the contract goes. The contract is there and it is sealed and both parties are equal in its execution. Why is her definition of heartless more correct than his definition? Trust me devils do not want to establish that the power of interpretation is in the contractor as opposed to a separate body/the contractee or vice versa. Otherwise, you're having situations where a contracted devil is told things like kill anyone who walks into this room and if somebody flies in there they still get punished for following what was told if they don't kill them because they didn't walk in.
I actually found out she's less forgiving than wyll if you go full evil mode lol. Wyll so long as you don't do it too often, and leave the Grove alone you can manipulate him into staying but karlach doesn't give you a chance to manipulate her lol.
Yeah because she's extremely kind, when you're in a relationship with her ingame she acts like a highschool girl who just got their first crush to notice them lmfao
@@icicleus yeah an adult being 10 years single without any kind word (or touch in her case) can have either positive or negative effects on people. it's a good thing that she's the type of girl to see the glass half full most of the time
That does also add up character wise: She's already had to serve 2 horrible leaders she'd prefer not serving a 3rd willingly (at least the 2nd time willingly)
on my evil play through I killed Karlach, delivered the head, got the 'paladin's' sword and immediately attacked him with it. its pretty funny since he's completely harmless without his weapon.
Hehehe you just reminded me of what i did before meeting karlach. I used command on him to make him drop the sword (outside combat) stole it and ran off then I respecced into a paladin of tyr and divine smited him with his own sword hahaha with karlach
Wyll doesn't become a Tiefling, he's corrupted by the Hells as a punishment, I can see why someone might not realize there is a difference but there is.
@@Mr9TalesFox Correct. You can compare the neck of Mizora and Wyll when he's transformed for example. That's not the neck of a tiefling, and he's mentioned on repeat to have become a devil.
There is a glitch where you can still get the item for will and keep karlach on your team. 1st, see wyll and get the quest, next, be by yourself and fight karlach and kill her but don't go near the bridge, it'll start the cutscene which will stop the glitch. After that, long rest and see wylls patron and she'll give the item. Then go back to karlach after all that and use a revival spell or scroll on her and let her go back to her spot, she'll activate the cutscene and you can get her to join you and will after persuading wyll
My first character on BG3 was one that I had a lot of fun playing in DnD proper. A ninja (shadow monk/assassin rogue), who doesn't care who he's paid to kill, only that he is paid to kill. He may have been talked out of it if all he was getting was Wyll as a companion, but once the paladins of Tyr offered their greatsword, it was officially a job. As a player, it killed me when she said "I could've used a friend.".
I almost bought their paladin story if not for the suspicious chanting so after hearing out Karlach we went straight to chop chop and loot the sword city with her
if you speak with the dead on their corpses around the toll collectors building you can learn of their lies and have reason to run them through before ever finding karlach. @@Ektuma
@@phugindomas that robe isn't amazing and best is subjective in most cases. For example if your Wyll is a bladelock which considering he is known as the Blade of Frontiers very fitting then he will be much better off with +1 or +2 light armor which is very easy to get by the time you reach Last Light.
@@owens945 no point in making him bladelock, you can get a rapier that allows you to use cha for attacks anyway. Yes, it's in act 3, but if you're wading in melee instead of eldritch blasting everything into oblivion, what are you doing with your life?
Honestly, when they said Karlach would be an origin character, I was so indifferent to recruiting her. But she is so lovable, I could never see this outcome
Basically, the outcome is losing one of the best characters in the game and Wyll being the cause of tension as you begin to think that he played you for a little power
It's a pretty good reward. But poor karlach man. She's had such a violent life and she goes down just like that. Would be neat if they at least buffed her up if you fought her, just so she'd put up more of a fight.
I'm on my fourth Dark Urge playthrough, still trying to go the evil route, and every fkin time karlach looks at me with those puppy eyes and i'm like "aight goblins, you gotta go!"
can't believe you could stomach killing Alfira four freaking times my dude... I have yet to do an evil playthrough because I love Selunite Shadowheart too much. Karlach is second best for me, and convincing Asterion to be a good guy is a fun challenge
@@benjamintim3542 there's a way to become Slayer while keeping alfira and the tieflings alive, and while having selunite Shadow Heart. She won't like you becoming the avatar of bhaal but It wont break anything. In theory you could also do that and save both minthara and halsin unless It was patched out
I didn't get to see this because I made a jump up a cliff and my party couldn't follow- I eventually found my way down and was right beside her. Karlach and Wyll got to meet in camp.
i find it funny how Wryll and Karlach talk about their backgrounds and it's the most epic shit ever but it all falls into the D&D character background dilemma of them not being even lv5 and have achieved so much before the adventure even started lol Edit: I get it, the tadpoles most likely fucked them up, read the replies before commenting please. I'm getting spawmmed over here 😐
But Wyll does actually have Dialog about the Tadpole. Where you talk to him about how weird it is, that you haven't turned yet and he says something about how he used to be able to do thing way beyond what he can do now, effectively blaming the Tadpole for the "weak" state he is in compared to the feats he did achieve before being infected. Not saying it's the most elegant solution to ever solution, but they kinda give a lore explanation on why things are, the way they are.
There are a couple of things at play with both characters. First, both Wyll and Karlach are designed to be found a bit later in the campaign, so normally people would be level 3 or 4 when they find them. Second, they both come with lore explanations for their weakened state. Karlach's Infernal Engine is not working properly now she is out of Avernus and, as @eiselfe2435 said, Wyll blames his tadpole.
@@eiselfe2435 oh really? It's good to know they have an explanation for it, didn't talked a lot with the companions because my tryhard powergamer lookin ass is too worried searching for items and ways to optmize the party instead of paying attention to the lore lol, this actually makes a lot of sense for Karlach aswell since i doubt Zariel herself would be impressed by a lv3 barbarian to personally turn her into an attack dog, thanks for the info
@@fleivor5359 Yeah the tadpole is the explanation. And it isnt only Wyll and Karlach. Gale-chosen of mystra with almost archmage-like status from backstory, Shadowheart-cleric of Shar send on a suicide mission which she succeded and survived, Astarion-vampire spawn that lived for centuries and Lae'zel-warrior raised for vlaakith "ascension" all of them can start at lvl1-2. I would put Gale as probably being highest lvled about 10-15, Shadow ~6-7, and i would put Laezel and Astarion at about 3-5 but those 2 are a stretch and could be considered fresh characters.
It's OK, but not great. Also, I don't think you'd want to get Armor of Shadows invocation until level 5 at the earliest, or you'd be missing out on either Devil's Sight or Agonizing Blast. It might even be better to hold off until level 7 for your fourth invocation, but in any case you should almost certainly have a better robe than this (e.g., the Protecty Sparkswall) by the time you get that mage armor running. And without easy access to mage armor, I'd probably prefer 12-13 AC light armor to this.
@@kriskittit's also darkvision on human, who doesn't have it by default. I don't wanna waste my slots on casting one or jump around the hoops with lighting
@@snackskazam I think for early levels u can go for armour of shadows and agonizing blast, the other pact invocations aren't that necessery to begin with. Devil's sight is only good if u have darkness on at least 2 characters to maintain it. I presonally go with Drow Pact Warlock for devils sight and agonizing blast and after level 6 I multiclass to get access to medium armour.
Because of how much Wyll protested about letting Karlach live, I shrugged my shoulders and said "Whatever, my party member wants to kill this NPC, who am I to stand in his way" Then he IMMEDIATELY started to get second-doubts. I was like "dude... I literally wouldn't have done this is YOU hadn't told me it was the only way. You can't be like "oh, what have we done" no, dude. What have YOU forced ME to do!? I then started to loot her corpse. And upon seeing her inventory I realized she was supposed to be a recruitable NPC. Guess that what happens when you avoid the pre-release stuff.
@thatoneguy9816 yes he forced him. Dude throws a tantrum at the start saying to not trust her. I knew she was recruitment because of small clips I've seen on the game. But if I hadn't I would've probably killed her too
That's what I thought too. Wyll was talking about her as if she were Medusa. I also met the fake Paladins before confronting Karlauch and thought killing her was a no-brainer. I didn't realize until I seen some videos days later, after I saved over it, that she's actually playable.
@@leroygreen9227 Same on the Tyr Paladins. Met them first, they led me to Karlach. Wyll's quest was to slay her, everyting was lining up!! It wasn't until I saw the loot she had (undies, camp supplies, named clothing) that I realized that I'd f'd up.
If Wyll got freed, our tadpoles were cured, Mizora destroyed the Elder Brain and gave you a Ring of Wishes, it still wouldn't be enough to justify hurting Karlach.
Yeah, they kind of whiffed D&D rules a bit on resurrection. Basically, they made it much easier and cheaper than in tabletop D&D with the "Revivify" scrolls that are relatively plentiful, and you can use at level 1. But they will only work on members of your party (or party members at camp). I understand why they did it. Could you imagine trying to write scripts for every possible resurrection? Kill everybody in the Druid grove, then resurrect them all. And it would make the entire plot point with Kethric Thorm making a deal with Myrkul to revive his daughter pretty irrelevant if he could have just waved a level 1 scroll at her and gotten the same result.
I hate that this is the only way to keep Wyll from turning into a demon, and yet still not enough to free him from that blasted contract. I think I liked his early access questline better.
@@jotacecm In EA, Mizora was missing and his mission was to find her so that he could try to negotiate his way out of his contract withher. The way you went about it was by interrogating two certain goblins, whose information implied that she was held prisoner somewhere in Moonrise Towers.
I think Larian should add a Persuasion check when you first talk to Mizora to convince her that technically Karlach's infernal engine CAN be considered a heart, thus cancelling the deal due to it violating their contract.
@@k4iten_Bro, if shit was that easy, Devil's would be out of a Job. Devil's SPECIALISE on locking you into stupid deals like this. A simple Persuasion Check is not going to cut it.
@@k4iten_ Pfft, devils like them have been cutting deals since before the mortal in question's great great granddad's great great granddad was even a sperm. if a devil can be so easily convinced & even outplayed with something so glaringly obvious & simple, there wouldn't have been so many cautionary tales about cutting deals with the devils. heck, everyone would be cutting deals with devils if that's the case, given how unbelievably stupid they are!
I could never! I was trying my best to play an evil character in my first playthrough. I did alot of bad and Lae'zel threw herself at me. However things got difficult when Karlach came into the picture. I TRIED SO HARD TO STAY EVIL BUT DAMMIT. Karlach made me turn good XD Now I'm dating Karlach and Lae'zel is heartbroken.
I'm not certain about this, but if you recruit Karlach and then ignore the whole druid grove questline and progress to Act 2, you might be able to get both?
@@PeterOnTheInterwebs You can keep Karlach (and Wyll). Just kill her before the night Scene with Minthara happens where Karlach leaves (and keep her in your Party). Now the "leave Scene" (and Wyll's leave Scene) is skipped. After that, she is revived automatically. If she is not in your Party while she is dead, she is still there but she's not revivable. After all this happened, both, Karlach an Wyll are no longer against you. Her Quest can no longer be completed.
Karlach and laezel, the only two companion whos honest. Karlach just wants a hug and laezel just wants to behead everyone. No reward is good enough for me to kill karlach or laezel
For my first playthough i picked Lae'zel, Shadowheart and Gale as company. Turned out all three have their stories TIED to main plot. Comparatively, Karlach, Astarion and Wyll feel like second hand actors doing their own thing. Kinda feels bad.
Karlach had a chunk of her story lost on the cutting room floor (there was supposed to be an entire segment in Avernus the size of Underdark supposedly - leading to her "good" ending). I imagine there's a similar explanation with Astarion's daddy having originally had stronger ties to the cut uppercity part of the game as Cazador Szarr's palace seems oddly placed on top of the walls. (Imagine it was originally supposed to be in the Upper City). Wyll, again similar story. I imagine that the Upper City would've held context with the nobility of Baldur's Gate and a certain someone becoming part of the powerful elite. Instead of it just kinda... Happening... The main difference that Wyll and Astarion's primary quest were done. So they probably just moved bits around to place it in the lower city.
I mean gale can literally be killed at first meeting by Dark Urge, and Lae'zel and shadowheart could kill each other so none are completely irreplaceable, act 3 has a lot of Wyll and Asterion moments, and my whole main playthrough I've not used Lae'zel once, Karlach however has a few throwaway lines and not much else though from what I've seen.
Wyll is the son of probably the most important character in Act 3 lol. Shadowheart has no relevance to the main plot at all in Act 3. The reason she was sent on the mission to steal the artifact is such a disappointment lol.
Normally if you bring Wyll to the bridge at Wyrm's crossing, the guards think he's lying about who he is and call him a tiefling. Wonder if they let him through now or not
You can only revive party members and when you kill her, she obviously doesn't join your party. From a narrative or "lore" standpoint, Revivify only works on people that have been dead for less than a minute and since you only learn about Mizora and Wyll's Pact once you take a long rest, it is safe to assume that Karlach has been dead for too long to be revived.
I accidentally killed some tieflings in the grove (even tho I saved them and the grove later from the goblins, it was literally an accident) and when I met Karlach she just didn't want to even talk to me and was sad and angry, so I decided to kill her, because didn't even know that she is that great of a person
For two people who were intent on killing each other, Karlach and Wyll were both too friggin' wholesome for both my expectations and my tastes. They turned out to be the sheep in a world of wolves, at least in my Dark Urge playthrough.
@@hooktraining3966 All the least-Machiavellian (but also least-interesting) people leave as soon as you attack the Grove. Which I was fine with. Wyll's personality was lame and since he was one-eyed, he could never crit anyway. Karlach is an overrated and sort of stereotypical "ANGRY GRRRRL" (yes, I said it). And Gale had given me a hand earlier and was now nowhere to be seen. ;)
This was entirely bugged for me, it kept thinking I was shadow heart and not my main guy the dark urge and I got no reward, thanks for showing me what I missed
Fire damage to enemies on being hit. Something like 10AC on the robe. It's really trash but makes him look cool. Would've been better as an accessory than actual armour.
For anyone wondering what the reward is - it's an Infernal Robe: Cloth armor, +1 AC, resistance to fire damage, and can cast Fire Shield. Nothing special, really. I haven't explored Karlach's story, as she doesn't fit my party in this playthrough. My regular party is Wyll, Shadowheart and Lae'Zel, with myself playing a SorLock. I recruited her and am friendly to her, but I find her ever so slightly annoying. Maybe that'll change on my next playthrough. Still, absolutely not worth the item reward, and she certainly didn't deserve to die. It might change some of the future interactions though, maybe the gate guards in act III actually recognize him without the horns.
Any know if Wyll can gain this armor any other way? As a main sorcerer in Baldur's Gate, I find this armor is the best you can get for a caster on chapter one, but it comes at a heavy cost, of loosing a main character. I don't mind spoilers, but info may be not-specific to keep it interesting. SO, do we get any similar or better "clothes" armor for casters, similar to this one early in the game story? as I have a sorcerer monk multiclass, so I don't wear armor, just clothes, but I mostly cast magic
If there's indeed such a work-around way to it, you wouldn't have needed to ask, as someone would have definitely found out about it at least a week ago.
There are bracers of defense to be found; which give +2 AC when not wearing armor or using a shield. Not armor, but good AC boosts at the cost of a glove slot.
@@ZoeLycan i know i am late to add smt, but hope it is still usefull for caster chars or chars partly using casting spells: *"Water"* skill > is handsdown *the stronges element* to work with aaand adds a *100% crit multi* on top, more later to it. > Water is the only element you can transform into 3 different forms with each their own passives. AoE Water (electric) to -> AoE Gas(poisen gas) to -> AoE Frozen surface to -> AoE Water. You can combine even those with each one. > Cast a lets say rank 5 Water AoE, now freez all, now change with water skill frozen area with a *lower rank = smaller AoE,* back into water...if you wear electric boots, water on auto is electrofied. Now you have a huge AoE with 2 elements in 1, frozen slipery slip outside ring, inside a damaging ZipZapping electric water field. Since Electric dmg *is the highest scaleable damage source* Ingame and reaches *highest critical damage,* your electric water field deals hard dmg with doing nothing active (saves action points). *So how/why is water adding crit multi?* • with a 100% chance/rate !! If you drop your water AoE over foes, they get *"WET"* status effect on them. *What does "wet" status effect?* Prevents Burning. Resistant to Fire damage (half damage) +50%. *Vulnerable* to *Cold* and *Lightning damage* > *(double damage).* > Feat "Elemental Adapt" to reduce any Resistance vs Electric by -50% so you always deal normal or double damage only depending if a foes has 100% resistance or not. If you electrofie water, it deals arround 7-14 dmg to anyone steping inside. If you make/made them wet, you deal 14-28 dmg. If you crit you deal 28 - 56 dmg. > a Orc with triple crit would deal 21 - 42....with lower "crit chance/rate"* So powerful is "water" > wet. /// *Why talk about water and so on if question was about AC/gloves?* AC does not realy matter if nothing can reach you/touch you! And here comes my advice for gloves: *GLOVES OF BELLIGERENT SKIES* Thunderous Conversion: When the wearer deals Thunder damage, *Lightning damage,* or *Radiant damage,* it inflict *2 turns of Reverberation* upon the target(s). *What does "Reverberation" do?* Affected entity has a *-1 penalty to Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution Saving Throws per remaining turn.* When the *entity has 4 or more turns of Reverberation,* it takes 1~4 Thunder damage and *falls Prone.* The condition is removed afterward. /// If you use a Tempest Paladin setup, use your *AoE Spirit Guardian* while standing in a AoE electric water...any foe able to reach or jump close to you,...gets a *insta* faceslap & falls prone. When it stands up again,...SLAP... back prone...you created a *StunLock.* But it *also* adds to next turn electrofied foes another 2 turns and slaps it down. And what happens when you fall into water??? > You get...wet!! As stated above, you can also use Thunder dmg to proc it while dmging or/and pushing those back. Now you can use combine a ring working with it: *RING OF SPITEFUL THUNDER* Spiteful Thunder: When the wearer *deals Thunder damage* to a *Reverberating* creature, it *becomes Dazed* unless it succeeds a Constitution Saving Throw. // So you need only 1x 2 turns to Stunlock foes AoE if they make just 1 step into your water... /// AC is great early and on paper, but at mid game... you should trust stunlock combos and electro/Thunder/radiant dmg to defend you & dealing highest possible dmg Ingame ;) Btw imo the best none Armor InGame is: *WAVEMOTHER'S ROBE:* _Temperature Adjustment:_ You have resistance to Fire and Cold Damage _Watery Rejuvenation:_ If the wearer is *standing in a water surface* at the *start of their turn, they heal 1~4 Hit Points.* _Create or Destroy Water:_ Level 1 Transmutation Spell > For reasons stated above and some more but i leave it to it ;) Have the best time possible
I feel like Wylls Race traits should have changed when he was changed to a Tiefling. But it still shows Human. No racial spells, resistances, or Darkvision
Hear me out, on a Base Equipment Challenge Run, since you didn't change his armour yourself and it's auto equiped. would this be a loophole for slightly better stats in the long-haul
if you're doing base equipment, wouldn't you rather have karlach with unarmored AC instead? im assuming you're also not gonna respec if you're doing this?
Whether or not it works as a loophole would depend on who's setting the rules. It isn't armor you specifically equip from inventory, but it would be a conscious choice you make to change into armor that is not base equipment. Just depends on whose rules you're playing by
It depends entirely on the rules of the challenge. I think it would be fair though, to allow unique character-specific equipment from the story. So this armor, the rapier he can get later, the weapon Nightsong gives Shadowheart, etc. But again, that depends on the rules of the challenge.
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There is literally no reward good enough to ever justify killing Karlach.
I've always killed her in early access, see no reason to change
@@im7254 Based. Suffer no devil spawn to live!
@@divolg7981 I'm playing it dos2 style. if it ain't one of 4 I'm using it's dead
She’s not Devil Spawn. She was just taken as a child and raised as a demon. WTF.
@@poseidon_god_of_the_sea4165raised a demon, always a demon, kill the abomination
Even Wyll approves when you convince him not to kill Karlach
"Convince".
-- Demon! I'll kill you!
-- I'm not a demon!
-- She's not a demon.
-- Oh, okay.
@@cjnf11well, he sees what her tadpole shows. He only needs convincing to do the right thing cause he's afraid of Mizora
@@cjnf11 It's not the shallow, you're just stuck in mass effect mode and not paying attention. Also words mean things, context matters, and those are not the words and context used. Now go dull your edge before you cut yourself with it.
@@realityveil6151 nah man he is just farming likes. Your insults only hurt those with the ability to understand what they read
Because he's a legit good dude! He doesn't want to hurt an innocent.
I like how this video was made because we know absolutely nobody is killing karlach
i had to. i killed kagha cuz they told me all the problems would be solved if i did, but it ended up killing everyone in the grove, and if u do that, she refuses to join you so I figured I might as well kill her for Wyll
i took her head because i dont like tieflings, pretty sure those paladins werent even actual tyr followers
@@Dmgx32 they aren't
I killed her because i thought i had too and i regret it so much
Plenty of people kill her. She is useless on an evil playthrough. And annoying on a more neutral one. Being lectured on morality by someone who eats souls for fun just is not my thing.
No reward in this game could ever make me harm Karlach. She may look scary at first, but she's got the personality of a golden retriever. She's just too lovable.
She's genuinely kind and wasn't even under her own control until the events involving us.
for me is getting the shadowhearth to not bugged out. Sorry karlach
Wait she is scary? I am playing my Dragonborn custom and noticed I am taller than all Companions other than Halsin and Karlach whom are on par.
@@dekay1428 I mean, she is a Tiefling known to be an absolute beast of a warrior with a literal Infernal Steel Engine for a heart. That sounds pretty messed up if you ask me.
Idk. When I met her she was all "HOW DARE YOU KILL THOSE DRUIDS RAWR" like calm down bish. They're just druids. That's like being upset over your neighbor swatting a fly.
Can’t get over how hurt she is having to fight you. “I could have used a friend.” 😢
Yeah wtf that was heartbreaking
Kind of a weird line considering she was saying it to someone she knows is literally just there to kill her. IMO breaks the immersion a bit, its the writers saying "this is not what you were supposed to do".
@@X_Potato she had hope that Wyll or someone would try to see reason even after looking through her eyes. And in the end, that’s all see wants is a friend she don’t have to be wary for. She not in the Hells anymore
@@X_Potatoshe literally fangirls over the heroes of baldur's gate. It's not farfetched to have her hope she could be friends with one
@@lpmatte93 in the context of the setting you are not anybody yet, as far as she knows your nobody other than someone who also happens to have a tadpole in their head.
Thank you sir, for telling me the consequences of killing Karlach. I'm now going to start a new game, where I max level her, give her all the best barbarians gears and romance her over again. Cheer.
Recommendation? Near full Bonespike, apart from the gloves. The gloves are the Thermoarcanic Gloves that give Heat for dealing fire damage, and the Hellfire Greataxe, which gives heat for hitting with it. Oh, and the Cindermoth Cape. She has been SPANKING with that setup.
After I know about her endings (no 'good' ending) I can't replay and romance her again :(
@@nemnymeria7873 they fixed her endings
sad thing nothing COULD CHANGE that garbage ending so your choices not matter in the end played you 400 hours or 60
@@user-vv3zc9il9k What the in world are you people talking about the ending is amazing
LIterally the only story spoiler video I have watched cause I know for a fact I will never do this myself.
Same.
Me to
slay dat bihh. off wit her head
Wyll told me he needed to kill Karlach so I went and did it, taking her out from afar. Chopped her head off for the paladins, then went back to Wyll feeling very badass. Then he starts on about "was it the right choice?" and I'm like "wait, it was a choice??"
"I could've used a friend, pity it won't be you."
That line stings
Right sad as hell
Karlach is the big sister you always wanted. Killing her in game is like killing family.
Well, sweet home Alabama I guess!
Vin Diesel disapproves
the big sister you wanted to plow over and over again.
Makes trying to romance her really awkward
@@jimmystrudel hol up
I really like the dynamic of Wyll and Karlach. They're such good characters if you can convince Wyll to spare here. It doesn't go great for Wyll but I love the strong bond that forms between them.
Ahem play as wyll to romance karlach accept the new horns and *spoiler* go for the doom eternal ending fighting toghether forever!
@@inkchip7351I wish you could have your party members romance each other even if you didn’t choose Wyll or Karlach as your origin
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 I agree with this, I felt pretty bad when withers basically called my other party members incels cause I romanced and was loyal to karlach. He's like damn bro why you aint gettin none?
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 yeah I wish this were possible, I’d put Karlach and Wyll together, Gale and Astarion together, and Shadowheart and Laezel together. And I’ll take Halsin.
The edit of Karlach's body following her severed head made me laugh so hard
It shouldn't have.
@@AngryCaesCorporation well it did
@@AngryCaesCorporation womp womp
@@AngryCaesCorporationJesus it’s not that serious, if you don’t do the Durge path that’s your choice, but it’s comedic because it’s funny editing.
It made me laugh my ass off too lol had to scroll pretty far to see someone else did too
Nice censor lmao, he just picked her up from the ground is all
I absolutely lost it 😂
laughed my butt off
I was dumb enough to believe it was a glitch. Still laughed my ass off
I'd take her to devil court for the "heartless" clause in the contract, as it did not specify as to what is defined by "heartless", as she implies that the contract ment "having no heart", this violates this part as the infernal engine that was placed in Karlach's chest is by definition a heart. Crude, prostetic heart, but still a heart, as such, by the law of Nine Hells the contract has been breached, and the cheating devil needs to be punished.
Nope. By definition the infernal Engine ISN'T a heart. It doesn't pulse, it only keeps her alive acting as fuel. A heart, by definition is:
"S hollow muscular organ that pumps the blood through the circulatory system by rhythmic contraction and dilation. In vertebrates there may be up to four chambers (as in humans), with two atria and two ventricles."
The infernal Engine doesn't pump blood nor it contracts or dilates.
So your case is forfeit, you can go now dear
Ta-ta!
@@RubyRoseITA this is a modern definition of a heart, it would not be able to be derived from research, we are currently capable of conducting, as such the contract is still been breached, as it has not been stated what does the patron concider heartless. I took my infernal law studies very seriously
@@nightmareraven3045 Welll you should re-do your studies, dear! By the law of the nine hells the devil who makes the contract isn't forced to specify any kind of detail in their contract, that is the human's duty, afterall Wyll had the chance to add detaiils or even change the contract before signing it! Therefore, by heartless, that means everyone who doesn't have a heart by definition! And... Modern definition? You do know that definition, in the "real" world was invented even before steam was found? Aaaand... The D&D world is in the middle of a steam-era. Just think about the fact we have newspapers, or even a fully fledged hospital in the shadow cursed lands! Considering that hospital is one of the hospitals used during the invention of lobotomy, where medicine was at one of its peaks... Yeah, i'd say the definition is already valid.
Centuries must pass before you can beat me in a law fight, mortal, ta-ta!
@@nightmareraven3045If they got an erinyes to act as defense it may have worked. They act as truly helpful lawyers. Yes, even if it means not damning them.
So, in actual contract law she would be in violation of intent. Generally speaking, one uses the ordinary meaning of a word in order to determine what the intent for that contract is. The word heartless generally means someone who is without empathy, as that is the general meaning of the word that is how literally every court would adjudicate it as. Unless the contract specifically identifies heartless as meaning somebody who lacks a heart you cannot use "technically they don't have a heart anyways" as a defense.
Now this becomes important when you realize that both parties in a contract are beholden to said contract. She is just as bound by contract as he is, it's not like she can't not give him powers If he's doing what he's supposed to and it's not like she can just decide how the contract goes. The contract is there and it is sealed and both parties are equal in its execution. Why is her definition of heartless more correct than his definition? Trust me devils do not want to establish that the power of interpretation is in the contractor as opposed to a separate body/the contractee or vice versa. Otherwise, you're having situations where a contracted devil is told things like kill anyone who walks into this room and if somebody flies in there they still get punished for following what was told if they don't kill them because they didn't walk in.
I actually found out she's less forgiving than wyll if you go full evil mode lol. Wyll so long as you don't do it too often, and leave the Grove alone you can manipulate him into staying but karlach doesn't give you a chance to manipulate her lol.
Yeah because she's extremely kind, when you're in a relationship with her ingame she acts like a highschool girl who just got their first crush to notice them lmfao
@@icicleus yeah an adult being 10 years single without any kind word (or touch in her case) can have either positive or negative effects on people. it's a good thing that she's the type of girl to see the glass half full most of the time
@@icicleus Well, it is so. She can't be touched and was alone for a decade at least.. so, it is exactly the case.
Makes sense. Being manipulated is what got her stuck in Avernus in the first place.
That does also add up character wise: She's already had to serve 2 horrible leaders she'd prefer not serving a 3rd willingly (at least the 2nd time willingly)
I'll never get over how great Larian made the dragonborn look. So badass.
Only sad that their racial traits are shitty.
Yeah, I love my character
I'm amazed at how many details the dragonborn facial animations have. It's honestly amazing how human like they were able to make a reptile.
They are utterly gorgeous and I can hardly imagine playing anything else.
Still heartbroken we have no fellow lizard romance options
too bad theres litterally no dragonborn interaction or lore in the whole game
Citing a clause from a contract you made to your warlock is such a Devil thing to do. I love it.
on my evil play through I killed Karlach, delivered the head, got the 'paladin's' sword and immediately attacked him with it. its pretty funny since he's completely harmless without his weapon.
Yeah, my first playthrough. I kill randos with frequency.
Hehehe you just reminded me of what i did before meeting karlach. I used command on him to make him drop the sword (outside combat) stole it and ran off then I respecced into a paladin of tyr and divine smited him with his own sword hahaha with karlach
I could never kill Karlach. I feel videos like this are just 'what if's' that never happened.
Right who would want to harm her
@@lightninggaming016 I mean, there's the Dark Urge..... there's also evil runs involving massacring the grove....
@@timetochronicleyou can actually pass a persuasion or intimidation check to make her not fight you.
She won’t join you though.
This path will also change the dialogue with his father later on, since he isn't a hell spawn when they meet.
Wyll doesn't become a Tiefling, he's corrupted by the Hells as a punishment, I can see why someone might not realize there is a difference but there is.
@@owens945well but all the other things are true
Wyll don't become Tiefling he become devil. or I misunderstood it.
His father is able to be convinced to welcome him back home, and even offers to make him grand Duke of baldurs gate despite being made into a devil
@@Mr9TalesFox Correct. You can compare the neck of Mizora and Wyll when he's transformed for example. That's not the neck of a tiefling, and he's mentioned on repeat to have become a devil.
this is, by far, the funniest fucking censorship I have ever seen
There is a glitch where you can still get the item for will and keep karlach on your team. 1st, see wyll and get the quest, next, be by yourself and fight karlach and kill her but don't go near the bridge, it'll start the cutscene which will stop the glitch. After that, long rest and see wylls patron and she'll give the item. Then go back to karlach after all that and use a revival spell or scroll on her and let her go back to her spot, she'll activate the cutscene and you can get her to join you and will after persuading wyll
You have to use the revival spell before rhe long rest but dont talk to her iirc
I never understood why he hated the punishment if you dont kill Karlach - those horns are badass af.
You ever tried sleeping on your side with horns like that?
@@dronesayeview you some sort if devil?
Devil horns will inspire fear despite wanting to be a hero
You wake up with horns tomorrow and you'll be crying for a cure.
then just cut it down
5:08 that edit lol. Did not expect that at all.
It made it more disturbinf lol
gotta love that sweet sweet youtube demonetization
I thought it was a bug lmao
I don't know what happens with Wyll if you kill Karlach, but i know what happens to you: you turns into a monster. You are a monster.
tiefling genocide is always morally correct
@@ainzooalgown9952drow, goblins, deep gnomes, orcs too
Killing devils makes me a pretty good person tbh
@@cyanideinmycereal1077 Please stop! It is against the law to be so fucking based.
Why the fuck are the people responding to comments on this video so fucking racist?
My first character on BG3 was one that I had a lot of fun playing in DnD proper. A ninja (shadow monk/assassin rogue), who doesn't care who he's paid to kill, only that he is paid to kill. He may have been talked out of it if all he was getting was Wyll as a companion, but once the paladins of Tyr offered their greatsword, it was officially a job. As a player, it killed me when she said "I could've used a friend.".
I just killed them and got their sword
I almost bought their paladin story if not for the suspicious chanting so after hearing out Karlach we went straight to chop chop and loot the sword city with her
if you speak with the dead on their corpses around the toll collectors building you can learn of their lies and have reason to run them through before ever finding karlach. @@Ektuma
YO I LITERALLY HAD THIS MINDSET FOR MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH.
Hope you enjoyed your first playthrough.
It took me a while but I found the chanting evil sounds was actually a sould coin sun bathing on the top of the building.
Well that's a lack luster reward. Not sure I'll ever do that unless I'm just wanting to do a pure evil run.
It's the best robe up until act 3 unless you're a chr caster and alfira survives to act 2....
It does make killing the Tieflings worth it as you would lose karlach anyways if you side with Minthara.
@@phugindomas that robe isn't amazing and best is subjective in most cases. For example if your Wyll is a bladelock which considering he is known as the Blade of Frontiers very fitting then he will be much better off with +1 or +2 light armor which is very easy to get by the time you reach Last Light.
@@owens945 no point in making him bladelock, you can get a rapier that allows you to use cha for attacks anyway. Yes, it's in act 3, but if you're wading in melee instead of eldritch blasting everything into oblivion, what are you doing with your life?
@@digitaldevil696 because bladelock gives him 2nd attack at lv5.
😂😂😂 the censorship of her neck in this was golden!
Honestly, when they said Karlach would be an origin character, I was so indifferent to recruiting her. But she is so lovable, I could never see this outcome
Basically, the outcome is losing one of the best characters in the game and Wyll being the cause of tension as you begin to think that he played you for a little power
It's a pretty good reward. But poor karlach man. She's had such a violent life and she goes down just like that. Would be neat if they at least buffed her up if you fought her, just so she'd put up more of a fight.
*"I could've done with a friend"*
@@latch9781 Poor puppy.
she also uses non lethal passive when you actually fight her
live by the sword, die by the sword.
@@LDZMarder Except she was forced to fight by the sword, she didn't really have a choice in the matter.
There's always a catch when it comes to deals.
I hate the idea of offing Karlach... one of my main goals is trying to keep the crew together.
Except for Astarion, he tried to bite me after initially trying to murder me. Insta-stake.
I'm on my fourth Dark Urge playthrough, still trying to go the evil route, and every fkin time karlach looks at me with those puppy eyes and i'm like "aight goblins, you gotta go!"
can't believe you could stomach killing Alfira four freaking times my dude... I have yet to do an evil playthrough because I love Selunite Shadowheart too much. Karlach is second best for me, and convincing Asterion to be a good guy is a fun challenge
@@benjamintim3542 there's a way to become Slayer while keeping alfira and the tieflings alive, and while having selunite Shadow Heart. She won't like you becoming the avatar of bhaal but It wont break anything. In theory you could also do that and save both minthara and halsin unless It was patched out
3 months ago and you had already played played it 3 times? How'd you do it so fast?
@@kevinthunder3375 i had bene waiting for this game for 20 years. I took two weeks off of work and barely slept. It was so worth it
Ahhh this is why i like youtube. it lets me see routes i would NEVER take. Karlach will always live in my games.
I didn't get to see this because I made a jump up a cliff and my party couldn't follow- I eventually found my way down and was right beside her. Karlach and Wyll got to meet in camp.
i find it funny how Wryll and Karlach talk about their backgrounds and it's the most epic shit ever but it all falls into the D&D character background dilemma of them not being even lv5 and have achieved so much before the adventure even started lol
Edit: I get it, the tadpoles most likely fucked them up, read the replies before commenting please. I'm getting spawmmed over here 😐
But Wyll does actually have Dialog about the Tadpole. Where you talk to him about how weird it is, that you haven't turned yet and he says something about how he used to be able to do thing way beyond what he can do now, effectively blaming the Tadpole for the "weak" state he is in compared to the feats he did achieve before being infected.
Not saying it's the most elegant solution to ever solution, but they kinda give a lore explanation on why things are, the way they are.
There are a couple of things at play with both characters. First, both Wyll and Karlach are designed to be found a bit later in the campaign, so normally people would be level 3 or 4 when they find them. Second, they both come with lore explanations for their weakened state. Karlach's Infernal Engine is not working properly now she is out of Avernus and, as @eiselfe2435 said, Wyll blames his tadpole.
@@eiselfe2435 oh really? It's good to know they have an explanation for it, didn't talked a lot with the companions because my tryhard powergamer lookin ass is too worried searching for items and ways to optmize the party instead of paying attention to the lore lol, this actually makes a lot of sense for Karlach aswell since i doubt Zariel herself would be impressed by a lv3 barbarian to personally turn her into an attack dog, thanks for the info
@@fleivor5359 Yeah the tadpole is the explanation. And it isnt only Wyll and Karlach. Gale-chosen of mystra with almost archmage-like status from backstory, Shadowheart-cleric of Shar send on a suicide mission which she succeded and survived, Astarion-vampire spawn that lived for centuries and Lae'zel-warrior raised for vlaakith "ascension" all of them can start at lvl1-2. I would put Gale as probably being highest lvled about 10-15, Shadow ~6-7, and i would put Laezel and Astarion at about 3-5 but those 2 are a stretch and could be considered fresh characters.
@@SeoriusZion Realistically, Mystra wouldn't even send a feet pic to a wizard of his level. 😂
Oh my god censoring headless karlach by editing her body back on cracked me up
just watching this made my heart ache. karlach is such a sweet character.
No reward ever could justify smiting our Spicy Cinnamon Bun.
People are saying the reward is bad, it’s pretty good though? Resistance, +1 ac for mage armor eldritch evocation, free fourth level spell seems legit
Not really if you compare it to losing a good character for the whole game. To an armor you’ll switch in act 2
It's OK, but not great. Also, I don't think you'd want to get Armor of Shadows invocation until level 5 at the earliest, or you'd be missing out on either Devil's Sight or Agonizing Blast. It might even be better to hold off until level 7 for your fourth invocation, but in any case you should almost certainly have a better robe than this (e.g., the Protecty Sparkswall) by the time you get that mage armor running. And without easy access to mage armor, I'd probably prefer 12-13 AC light armor to this.
@@Hellboy-ku6jwkarlach leaves any evil run regardless, so why not?
@@kriskittit's also darkvision on human, who doesn't have it by default. I don't wanna waste my slots on casting one or jump around the hoops with lighting
@@snackskazam I think for early levels u can go for armour of shadows and agonizing blast, the other pact invocations aren't that necessery to begin with. Devil's sight is only good if u have darkness on at least 2 characters to maintain it. I presonally go with Drow Pact Warlock for devils sight and agonizing blast and after level 6 I multiclass to get access to medium armour.
Anders: "Here's my blade, blessed by Tyr. It's sacred...the most valuable thing I've ever held."
Me: "My guy, your standards are LOW."
Because of how much Wyll protested about letting Karlach live, I shrugged my shoulders and said "Whatever, my party member wants to kill this NPC, who am I to stand in his way"
Then he IMMEDIATELY started to get second-doubts. I was like "dude... I literally wouldn't have done this is YOU hadn't told me it was the only way. You can't be like "oh, what have we done" no, dude. What have YOU forced ME to do!?
I then started to loot her corpse. And upon seeing her inventory I realized she was supposed to be a recruitable NPC. Guess that what happens when you avoid the pre-release stuff.
Forced you?
@thatoneguy9816 yes he forced him. Dude throws a tantrum at the start saying to not trust her. I knew she was recruitment because of small clips I've seen on the game. But if I hadn't I would've probably killed her too
you could've said no. You don't blame someone else for your reluctance. @@simplesubtitutions7105
That's what I thought too. Wyll was talking about her as if she were Medusa. I also met the fake Paladins before confronting Karlauch and thought killing her was a no-brainer. I didn't realize until I seen some videos days later, after I saved over it, that she's actually playable.
@@leroygreen9227 Same on the Tyr Paladins. Met them first, they led me to Karlach. Wyll's quest was to slay her, everyting was lining up!!
It wasn't until I saw the loot she had (undies, camp supplies, named clothing) that I realized that I'd f'd up.
Kill Karlach = Punished with low tier warm pyjama.
Spare Karlach = Rewarded by being turned in a handsome devil.
He becomes a power ranger!? :O
Wow. Zordan’s standards have changed.
the “evil” lines never fail to make me laugh 😭☠️
If Wyll got freed, our tadpoles were cured, Mizora destroyed the Elder Brain and gave you a Ring of Wishes, it still wouldn't be enough to justify hurting Karlach.
Crazy idea, can you kill Karlach, take her body, get the reward, then use a scroll to revive her?
She's automatically hostile
This means people tried xD@@tyler-hp7oq
Scrolls don't really work on anything besides party members and when it's convenient for the plot
She has no head
Yeah, they kind of whiffed D&D rules a bit on resurrection. Basically, they made it much easier and cheaper than in tabletop D&D with the "Revivify" scrolls that are relatively plentiful, and you can use at level 1. But they will only work on members of your party (or party members at camp). I understand why they did it. Could you imagine trying to write scripts for every possible resurrection? Kill everybody in the Druid grove, then resurrect them all. And it would make the entire plot point with Kethric Thorm making a deal with Myrkul to revive his daughter pretty irrelevant if he could have just waved a level 1 scroll at her and gotten the same result.
I hate that this is the only way to keep Wyll from turning into a demon, and yet still not enough to free him from that blasted contract. I think I liked his early access questline better.
What's different about his quest? I never played the early access
@@jotacecm In EA, Mizora was missing and his mission was to find her so that he could try to negotiate his way out of his contract withher. The way you went about it was by interrogating two certain goblins, whose information implied that she was held prisoner somewhere in Moonrise Towers.
I think Larian should add a Persuasion check when you first talk to Mizora to convince her that technically Karlach's infernal engine CAN be considered a heart, thus cancelling the deal due to it violating their contract.
@@k4iten_Bro, if shit was that easy, Devil's would be out of a Job.
Devil's SPECIALISE on locking you into stupid deals like this. A simple Persuasion Check is not going to cut it.
@@k4iten_ Pfft, devils like them have been cutting deals since before the mortal in question's great great granddad's great great granddad was even a sperm. if a devil can be so easily convinced & even outplayed with something so glaringly obvious & simple, there wouldn't have been so many cautionary tales about cutting deals with the devils. heck, everyone would be cutting deals with devils if that's the case, given how unbelievably stupid they are!
I could never! I was trying my best to play an evil character in my first playthrough. I did alot of bad and Lae'zel threw herself at me. However things got difficult when Karlach came into the picture. I TRIED SO HARD TO STAY EVIL BUT DAMMIT. Karlach made me turn good XD Now I'm dating Karlach and Lae'zel is heartbroken.
That's character development right there
Haha... well... I can't not date her now.
You're sacrifice will never be forgotten
"The head comes free with a sickening crunch."
You know, I don't think it did...
Honestly I'm willing to sacrifice Wyll and Halsin to get Minthara, but I want Karlach...
You can get Wyll and Minthara at the same time.
@@theogramme_official I want Minthara and Karlach at the same time which causes issues since a certain someone important dies for Karlach
I'm not certain about this, but if you recruit Karlach and then ignore the whole druid grove questline and progress to Act 2, you might be able to get both?
@@PeterOnTheInterwebs You can keep Karlach (and Wyll). Just kill her before the night Scene with Minthara happens where Karlach leaves (and keep her in your Party). Now the "leave Scene" (and Wyll's leave Scene) is skipped. After that, she is revived automatically. If she is not in your Party while she is dead, she is still there but she's not revivable. After all this happened, both, Karlach an Wyll are no longer against you. Her Quest can no longer be completed.
Karlach and laezel, the only two companion whos honest. Karlach just wants a hug and laezel just wants to behead everyone. No reward is good enough for me to kill karlach or laezel
For my first playthough i picked Lae'zel, Shadowheart and Gale as company. Turned out all three have their stories TIED to main plot.
Comparatively, Karlach, Astarion and Wyll feel like second hand actors doing their own thing.
Kinda feels bad.
Act 3 Wyll has more relevance but for Acts 1 and 2 definitely agree.
Karlach had a chunk of her story lost on the cutting room floor (there was supposed to be an entire segment in Avernus the size of Underdark supposedly - leading to her "good" ending).
I imagine there's a similar explanation with Astarion's daddy having originally had stronger ties to the cut uppercity part of the game as Cazador Szarr's palace seems oddly placed on top of the walls. (Imagine it was originally supposed to be in the Upper City).
Wyll, again similar story. I imagine that the Upper City would've held context with the nobility of Baldur's Gate and a certain someone becoming part of the powerful elite. Instead of it just kinda... Happening...
The main difference that Wyll and Astarion's primary quest were done. So they probably just moved bits around to place it in the lower city.
I mean gale can literally be killed at first meeting by Dark Urge, and Lae'zel and shadowheart could kill each other so none are completely irreplaceable, act 3 has a lot of Wyll and Asterion moments, and my whole main playthrough I've not used Lae'zel once, Karlach however has a few throwaway lines and not much else though from what I've seen.
@@omidog06 Gale can also die because of bad rolls.
Wyll is the son of probably the most important character in Act 3 lol. Shadowheart has no relevance to the main plot at all in Act 3. The reason she was sent on the mission to steal the artifact is such a disappointment lol.
genuinely expected wyll to get horns and shit as a 'reward' anyway lel
I'm glad for this video because I could never harm Harlach in my actual game.
Normally if you bring Wyll to the bridge at Wyrm's crossing, the guards think he's lying about who he is and call him a tiefling.
Wonder if they let him through now or not
Decent looking armor there Wyll. The Selunites want it back.
Thanks for sharing, you must have a pretty damn good rig, the details in the armor and weapons are amazing.
this reward is so worthless comparing to loss of barbarian and her storyline, not even saying that this robe gets outdated quickly
Can you not kill Karlach and then revive her? Wouldn't that mean that Wyll technically completed his part of the agreement?
You can only revive party members and when you kill her, she obviously doesn't join your party. From a narrative or "lore" standpoint, Revivify only works on people that have been dead for less than a minute and since you only learn about Mizora and Wyll's Pact once you take a long rest, it is safe to assume that Karlach has been dead for too long to be revived.
Thank you for the video, I am never going to hurt precious Karlach ever !
Didnt even show the item because we all agree Mizora can get bent
Not best girl😢
How could you! She's the most likeable companion :D
8:49 "...three shakes of your tail"
scratch : barks
I accidentally killed some tieflings in the grove (even tho I saved them and the grove later from the goblins, it was literally an accident) and when I met Karlach she just didn't want to even talk to me and was sad and angry, so I decided to kill her, because didn't even know that she is that great of a person
DEMON MOM GAVE ME THE DRIP WOW.
For two people who were intent on killing each other, Karlach and Wyll were both too friggin' wholesome for both my expectations and my tastes.
They turned out to be the sheep in a world of wolves, at least in my Dark Urge playthrough.
That’s not a “world of wolves” that’s the coyote being let into the henhouse.
Any characters that other people describe as wholesome are the characters I kill immediately
@@hooktraining3966 Careful man you might cut yourself on that edge.
@@JETBLACKPRIEST so creative bro
@@hooktraining3966 All the least-Machiavellian (but also least-interesting) people leave as soon as you attack the Grove.
Which I was fine with. Wyll's personality was lame and since he was one-eyed, he could never crit anyway. Karlach is an overrated and sort of stereotypical "ANGRY GRRRRL" (yes, I said it). And Gale had given me a hand earlier and was now nowhere to be seen. ;)
"I could have used a friend. Pity that wasn't you." 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I love her so much.
I lost it at the cardboard Karlach, well done
Hey you did your best with the scene that might be too "mature" for some younger viewers, good job.
Probably because YT could block the channel if it shows too much violence and gore
@@TheChelus YT blocks cartoon violence?
So, basically every videogame, then? >..
That scene is definitely more than "cartoon" violence@@pmarreck
This was entirely bugged for me, it kept thinking I was shadow heart and not my main guy the dark urge and I got no reward, thanks for showing me what I missed
When this happens just ungroup and make sure your character reaches the conversation first.
Thanks for posting this I would never actually do it but I was curious
Karlach is just the best! Even if the reward were Baldurs's helm and sword+raphael's armour it would not be worth killing her.
I can't see underneath the recommended videos. What does the robe do?
Fire damage to enemies on being hit. Something like 10AC on the robe. It's really trash but makes him look cool. Would've been better as an accessory than actual armour.
"I could have used a friend" fucking broke me I'm about to cry
I'm glad I can watch this video so I never have to do this in my games
For anyone wondering what the reward is - it's an Infernal Robe: Cloth armor, +1 AC, resistance to fire damage, and can cast Fire Shield. Nothing special, really.
I haven't explored Karlach's story, as she doesn't fit my party in this playthrough. My regular party is Wyll, Shadowheart and Lae'Zel, with myself playing a SorLock. I recruited her and am friendly to her, but I find her ever so slightly annoying. Maybe that'll change on my next playthrough.
Still, absolutely not worth the item reward, and she certainly didn't deserve to die. It might change some of the future interactions though, maybe the gate guards in act III actually recognize him without the horns.
Any know if Wyll can gain this armor any other way? As a main sorcerer in Baldur's Gate, I find this armor is the best you can get for a caster on chapter one, but it comes at a heavy cost, of loosing a main character.
I don't mind spoilers, but info may be not-specific to keep it interesting. SO, do we get any similar or better "clothes" armor for casters, similar to this one early in the game story? as I have a sorcerer monk multiclass, so I don't wear armor, just clothes, but I mostly cast magic
If there's indeed such a work-around way to it, you wouldn't have needed to ask, as someone would have definitely found out about it at least a week ago.
@@FalconWindblader maybe not for same chest piece but maybe there is another. As most videos only talk about the metal armours at the forge
There are bracers of defense to be found; which give +2 AC when not wearing armor or using a shield. Not armor, but good AC boosts at the cost of a glove slot.
@@darmocat thanks, I know. I combine those with Wylls armour to reach AC 19 as a caster
@@ZoeLycan i know i am late to add smt, but hope it is still usefull for caster chars or chars partly using casting spells:
*"Water"* skill
> is handsdown *the stronges element* to work with aaand adds a *100% crit multi* on top, more later to it.
> Water is the only element you can transform into 3 different forms with each their own passives.
AoE Water (electric) to -> AoE Gas(poisen gas) to -> AoE Frozen surface to -> AoE Water.
You can combine even those with each one.
> Cast a lets say rank 5 Water AoE, now freez all, now change with water skill frozen area with a *lower rank = smaller AoE,* back into water...if you wear electric boots, water on auto is electrofied.
Now you have a huge AoE with 2 elements in 1, frozen slipery slip outside ring, inside a damaging ZipZapping electric water field.
Since Electric dmg *is the highest scaleable damage source* Ingame and reaches *highest critical damage,* your electric water field deals hard dmg with doing nothing active (saves action points).
*So how/why is water adding crit multi?*
• with a 100% chance/rate !!
If you drop your water AoE over foes, they get *"WET"* status effect on them.
*What does "wet" status effect?*
Prevents Burning.
Resistant to Fire damage (half damage) +50%.
*Vulnerable* to *Cold* and *Lightning damage* > *(double damage).*
> Feat "Elemental Adapt" to reduce any Resistance vs Electric by -50% so you always deal normal or double damage only depending if a foes has 100% resistance or not.
If you electrofie water, it deals arround 7-14 dmg to anyone steping inside. If you make/made them wet, you deal 14-28 dmg. If you crit you deal 28 - 56 dmg.
> a Orc with triple crit would deal 21 - 42....with lower "crit chance/rate"*
So powerful is "water" > wet.
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*Why talk about water and so on if question was about AC/gloves?*
AC does not realy matter if nothing can reach you/touch you!
And here comes my advice for gloves:
*GLOVES OF BELLIGERENT SKIES*
Thunderous Conversion: When the wearer deals Thunder damage, *Lightning damage,* or *Radiant damage,* it inflict *2 turns of Reverberation* upon the target(s).
*What does "Reverberation" do?*
Affected entity has a *-1 penalty to Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution Saving Throws per remaining turn.*
When the *entity has 4 or more turns of Reverberation,* it takes 1~4 Thunder damage and *falls Prone.* The condition is removed afterward.
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If you use a Tempest Paladin setup, use your *AoE Spirit Guardian* while standing in a AoE electric water...any foe able to reach or jump close to you,...gets a *insta* faceslap & falls prone. When it stands up again,...SLAP... back prone...you created a *StunLock.*
But it *also* adds to next turn electrofied foes another 2 turns and slaps it down.
And what happens when you fall into water???
> You get...wet!!
As stated above, you can also use Thunder dmg to proc it while dmging or/and pushing those back.
Now you can use combine a ring working with it:
*RING OF SPITEFUL THUNDER*
Spiteful Thunder: When the wearer *deals Thunder damage* to a *Reverberating* creature, it *becomes Dazed* unless it succeeds a Constitution Saving Throw.
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So you need only 1x 2 turns to Stunlock foes AoE if they make just 1 step into your water...
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AC is great early and on paper, but at mid game... you should trust stunlock combos and electro/Thunder/radiant dmg to defend you & dealing highest possible dmg Ingame ;)
Btw imo the best none Armor InGame is:
*WAVEMOTHER'S ROBE:*
_Temperature Adjustment:_ You have resistance to Fire and Cold Damage
_Watery Rejuvenation:_ If the wearer is *standing in a water surface* at the *start of their turn, they heal 1~4 Hit Points.*
_Create or Destroy Water:_
Level 1 Transmutation Spell
> For reasons stated above and some more but i leave it to it ;)
Have the best time possible
you can get the sword by just killing the paladins with karlach anyway HAH
Had to watch that on YT as i could never do that in my playthrough
And I thought the Dark Urge kicking the squirrel was rough to watch...
oh come on man I friggin rolled on the floor laughing for real with that one, it was so unexpected (and yet so in-character for that playthrough)
In my first playthrough I just immediately killed her with no second thought
So the moment someone tells you to kill a person you've never met because she is "evil", you immediately believe them and do it? Yikes.
@@TF2CrunchyFrog hey, it wasn't some random person, it was the Blade of Frontiers hunting a servant of a devil.
@@MateusVIII Based.
Yeah I did the same thing. Our necromancer took the coat and turned it green. And looked fricken awesome. So I think it was worth it
her personality is so immersion breaking to me and I want to kill her the moment she starts talking but... I can't kill her, it feels so bad
I can't read the armor stats because of your recommended video cards at the end
I laughed a lot harder than I should’ve at the ‘censor’
"Karlach has no heart" is the biggest lie of them all.
It's not a lie. It's a technical truth.
@@danjal87nl Which, unfortunately, is the only type of truth that matters for infernal contracts.
Devils being devils with their ambiguous clausules, read the contract before signing bois and gurls!
Anyone who thought killing Karlach was a good notion is definitely evil.
This is the greatest trade deal in the history of trade deals.
Grate video, you did this so I never have too. Good job. Have a like.
THE CENSORSHIP LMAO
Cant even watch this, Karlach is by far the best companion you can get. Its shameful ending her like this.
Well, I think 99% of the players has Wyll turned into a devil and Karlach alive in the camp
this is the kind of content i need of bg3 because theres no way in hell ill do this in my gameplay lol
I feel like Wylls Race traits should have changed when he was changed to a Tiefling. But it still shows Human. No racial spells, resistances, or Darkvision
That would be because he isnt changed into a tiefling.
Hear me out, on a Base Equipment Challenge Run, since you didn't change his armour yourself and it's auto equiped.
would this be a loophole for slightly better stats in the long-haul
if you're doing base equipment, wouldn't you rather have karlach with unarmored AC instead? im assuming you're also not gonna respec if you're doing this?
@Copperscaled Actually solid point. I'll admit this is a new idea and I've git to do some focus work. But good point.
Whether or not it works as a loophole would depend on who's setting the rules. It isn't armor you specifically equip from inventory, but it would be a conscious choice you make to change into armor that is not base equipment. Just depends on whose rules you're playing by
It depends entirely on the rules of the challenge. I think it would be fair though, to allow unique character-specific equipment from the story. So this armor, the rapier he can get later, the weapon Nightsong gives Shadowheart, etc. But again, that depends on the rules of the challenge.
Slick censorship at 5:15. Thought is was a glitch at first.
God the way they all blankly stare when you cut of her head is so freaky
Anyone who kills her in their first play through/a non-evil play through is a monster. Karlach is a lovable woman, everyone loves her!
Some people are twats and will kill her because shes lovable. Their loss