The Legacy of Jason Segel's The Muppets (2011)
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- The Muppets film from 2011 was supposed to revive the franchise, and Jason Segel gave us hope for the future, but what was the real impact of The Muppets? What is the legacy this film has left behind?
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What about Muppets Most Wanted
@@illuminatipoodle4517 I have yet to make a full video about it. My newer video (about Rizzo the Rat) does touch on it a bit, but it's not a full historical review.
Okay. Can you please make one on how about it is not a very good movie. I have been waiting for a good channel to touch on it for a couple years now.
@@illuminatipoodle4517Muppets Most Wanted atleast tried to stay true to the characters, but the writing was lacking, the plot sucked and the songs were garbage.
I'll never understand why Disney didn't make Walter a more central part of the Muppets after this. I understand the legacy characters will always be the main stars...but Walter represented the audience rediscovering their love for the muppets.
I'm with you. It's weird to not make him at least part of the core gang. Being pushed to the background felt like such an odd choice when you put so much work into establishing the character in this film and making him the surrogate for the audience. It's a real bummer.
I think the problem was without Jason Siegel, he felt out of place. He needed his brother.
Yey they should have made a third film where walter needs to decide if he wants to go back with Jason or stay with the muppets that's what the third film should be about
It's simple as this, what do you do with Walter? Now that he's part of the muppets what's his big thing? Perhaps if he was in the 2015 show, he'd still have a place around. But the only way I see him being incorporated would be by replacing another character with him.
Walter was just a pov character and was pretty boring
2011 muppets was incredible. Since then Disney has completely wasted the Muppets' potential.
I have high hopes for Muppets Mayhem although I have high hopes for every new project. Now that Disney Imagineering is in charge of the characters we might end up seeing more of them both on screen and in the parks in the coming years.
Muppets haunted house was pretty good. And muppets most wanted it probably the most underrated of all the movies
@@honcore1443 Ehhh it has good songs but it really fails to live up to its prequel
@@Emiturbina I mean, Tina Fey doing a "moose and squirrel"-y Russian accent was something I didn't know I needed in my life. I was sitting there watching the movie with my wife and in-laws and the Community line "I hope this doesn't awaken anything in me" popped into my head
Why do you think it was incredible compared to perfectionist and ambitious Jim Henson also there way to sweet they use to be cute there’s a difference songs are nice though, but I’ll still take the og trilogy and muppet Christmas carol that one being my fav Disney version because they stayed true to the characters.
The 2011 film was my introduction to the Muppets. I had seen Muppets Take Manhattan, but I didn’t get the humor because I was only in elementary school. By 2011, I was 10, and the jokes in the new film finally hit. I’ve been a fan ever since, but after watching the first few seasons of The Muppet Show on Disney Plus, I’ve felt that before and since the 2011 film, Disney hasn’t handled the Muppets in a way respectful to the franchise’s original tone. Muppets Most Wanted, the 2015 series, Muppets Now and Haunted Mansion stick out particularly well in that regard.
The team really did nail what was great about the original Muppet show. I think the 2015 show had potential but the rug got pulled out from under the team. Thanks for the comment!
I think Most Wanted is awesome. i can't stop singing the sequel song.
I miss the way the muppets were in 2011. Ever since kermit's voice was replaced it feels like the passion behind the muppets has faded
The 2015 show started off bad but it started getting better by the end. Too bad the damage was already done so the cancelled it and left it on a cliffhanger.
Muppets Most Wanted was a banger.
Bruh Jason Segel wrote the movie that’s actually crazy. He’s SUCH a good filmmaker
i can wholeheartedly suggest you to watch "Dispatches from Elsewhere". it is Produced and in par written by Jason Segel. It is weird, has its lenghts but is very special at its core. just make sure to not spoil yourself.
Bruh someone had to write it
I watched this movie for the first time recently after being sent the clip of one of the characters saying "Mr The Frog, we all agreed that a celebrity is not a people" and I laughed at that clip so hard that I got a nose bleed, it was probably one of the best Muppets media I've seen and I wish there was more that was that good
It's a great quote and honestly a good entry point into the comedy of the Muppets. Welcome to your Muppet fandom!
One of the best legacy sequels of all time. Feels like a big hug being given to all the loyal fans after such a long time.
"Feels like a big hug" is exactly how I felt in the theater.
Funny how this came out the same year as another Disney movie which could be considered one of the best legacy sequels of all time. I am of course talking about Winnie the Pooh 2011.
This movie made me love the muppets all over again. I was a junior in high school when it came out, and I had no shame going to see it in theaters
I went to go see this movie with my friend. We were both 20-something guys who went opening night to see it. No shame here either. I ended up seeing it alone in the theater another time. I've probably watched this movie more times than any other Muppet film.
was in my college honors class and i broke out into “am i a man” (what i thought was an obscure-ish forgotten song from an obscure-ish forgotten movie) but like 3 other college students sang with me 😭😭 the longevity of this movie was hella shocking
We are everywhere, we just don't talk about it.
2:25 Plus the Muppet movie birthed my favorite Muppet song "man or Muppet" "Am I a man or I'm a Muppet? If I'm a man I'm a Muppet of a man"
Are you a man or a Muppet David? Which are you?
@@ModernMouse I'm a Muppet of a Man lol! Merry Christmas to u and urs and Happy New Year. BTW where did Trivia Tuesday go? For some reasons Im no longer getting those notifications.
I was 20 when this came out in 2011 and I was worried that this film was going to be boring and they were going to have Muppets rehash outdated material from 30 and 40 years ago but I was surprised how amazing it was and magical
It was a great mix of nostalgia, while pushing the Muppets forward. I personally think the ABC show from 2015 capitalized on this film. Shame it was canceled before it ever really got going.
@@ModernMouse what's crazy is that I really enjoyed the 2015 TV series and I liked the more edgy and funny adult humor but it did feel a little too forced and too mean spirited for it to be considered Muppets so I was a little turned off by it and inevitably saw it getting cancelled for some reason
It was a little more edgy and I think by the end of the first season they had found the right balance of wholesomeness with adult humor. Shame we won't ever know what could have been.
@@ModernMouse yea true man
This is my go to film when I’m feeling a bit down or am unwell, because it’s just pure joy the entire time. Even in the emotional moments, it hits at the right points. I’ve seen it so many times and I still go back to it because it’s just incredible.
It really is pure joy. Super wholesome, sweet, and charming!
I loved the ABC Muppet show. It feels like a spiritual successor to The Office, in more ways than just the mockumentary format. I really wish it was given more of a chance from both the studios and the audiences, because I think it could've seen amazing success if given the chance.
I just think it didn't have time to find the right audience, especially with some of the changes they made mid-season on a show that had a show single season.
I completely agree
Yep, instead of giving it a chance they sent it straight into the whoopsie bin.
oh 100%
It’s a shame they have to cancel it after one season
I couldn't understand how the muppets didn't take off after the 2011 film. The next film could have been more like the first, but I think they should have gone for a muppets comedy book adaptation or spoof like Christmas Carole or Treasure Island. I honestly can't understand how they messed up this badly.
I saw this in theaters as a child. And absolutely fell in love with it, I had grown up with Sesame Street, and after seeing the Muppets I fell in love with the franchise, Jim Henson, and puppeteering as a whole
I think this film turned a lot of new folks into Muppet fans and Henson fans. I hope they can eventually get back to the excitement that this movie provided for the characters and the art of puppetry.
I personally loved the ABC show and I’m so disappointed that they canceled it. I feel like it was a fresh take on the material. I loved it when I first watched it as a 12 year old and I loved it when I rewatched it a couple days ago. Really should’ve been given a second season.
The 2015 show felt like it finally figured out what it was by the end of the first season. It really is a shame it didn't keep going.
Let him write another one. This was the best thing they have done sense the original Muppet show.
Let him be on the Disney payroll and run the Muppets as a brand.
He should've been in Muppets Most Wanted, even if it was just a cameo.
A very key aspect of the movie as well is that Brett from Flight of the Conchords wrote the songs.
I found the 2015 show really funny after the first few episodes when it found its footing but it never got a chance to get an audience.
The movie really wouldn't be as charming without the songs from Bret McKenzie. I think it's interesting that they got Jemaine Clement for Muppets Most Wanted and it didn't have the same "punch up". Not that he wrote all of the songs, he was mostly just acting. Maybe they needed him to write the songs. I actually think it was a mix though. Bret along with Jason Segel's desire to create something so wholesome and sincere.
I think the Muppets work best in occasional doses imo. Instead of trying to force content on a weekly basis in risk of growing stale, it’s probably better we get them in bits and pieces as specials once in a while.
I can see this. I think the best thing Marvel has done in a while was their one hour specials on Disney+. They didn't oversaturate anything. They just aired for an hour and that was it. I wouldn't mind seeing more random one hour Muppet specials like Muppets Haunted Mansion.
I really love it’s so funny, such a good story and great performances from the two actors. Love the music as well. Really a classic.
I think it's a film that holds up the legacy of the Muppets very well. If someone who had never watched the Muppets asked me to show them the Muppets, I'd put on this movie. It really is a classic at this point.
@@ModernMouse I love it. And the same goes to A Christmas Carol. I just watched it for the very first time a week ago, it’s wonderful and moving.
@@slystone4892 yes! I mean...I definitely got most of my feelings out about Muppet Christmas Carol in my video from a few weeks ago, but I feel like it's the best version of a Christmas Carol. It is a very moving film and the soundtrack feels like Christmas.
@@ModernMouse yes I know just after this video I watched your video on Christmas Carol.
I can watch it over and over again. It never gets old.
Always appreciated that Segel made a passion project. The movie wasn't perfect, but it's certainty the best Muppet show/movie in the last decade or so.
It had the potential to really invigorate the characters. It's a shame that it wasn't capitalized on like it could have been.
@@ModernMouse Exactly, man. The sequel with the spies and all that, was a total misstep.
I watched this in a cinema as a kid, looking back its probably better than I remember because I'm actually old enough to appreciate it. I watched muppets most wanted a few days ago and it's delightfully insane.
I think there was a significant amount of interest when Disney + added the whole run of the original Muppet Show. They should have immediately followed that up with putting up Muppets Tonight. That show had a ton of potential and did often push the boundaries of what we expected Muppets to be allowed to do. Not to mention they could easily put the original Muppet Babies on D+ as they fully own Lucasfilm and Fox now, so they would be able to include all of the Star Wars and Indy dream sequences.
I'm always surprised why they haven't added those things or attempted to get the rights to certain things. I know that Muppets Take Manhattan was on Amazon Prime recently because they had paid for it long ago, but that also goes to show that Disney isn't interested in overly committing to the Muppets.
I watched this movie most recently while getting an MRI scan of my brain back in 2019. I distinctly remember having to get some sections of the scan re-done because I kept giggling and it was ruining the shot lol. Literally the perfect reboot film in my opinion, I kind of wish they made more.
There will be a new series coming to Disney+ soon, but yeah, I do wish there were more films and that Jason Segel continued to be involved. The Muppets need someone running that section of the Disney company and constantly working on new material.
The Muppets (2011) was the film that solidified me as a Muppet fan. I was 10 when this film came out, and I had heard of the Muppets before and even seen them before, such as some of their older films and Muppet Vision 3D at Disney theme parks, but when I saw The Muppets (2011) and absolutely loved it as a kid. I was obsessed with that film for a while, and not only did I have a Muppets themed birthday party the following spring, but I also rewatched parts of that film so often after it’s DVD release. If that film hadn’t come out, I don’t know how big of a Muppet fan I’d be.
You could make a argument that this is the best muppets movie. I seen some of the original show, and loved the older movies. But I was 9 when I saw this movie. And it made me love them, Jim Henson, and have a bigger appreciation moving forward to where now, when I’m down I turn to the muppets. I can thank Jason for that, who revitalized them, found the spirit of what the muppets where and showed it to me.
You can definitely make that argument. It did feel like this was the reboot the Muppets needed. It had similarities to the older films, especially the original Muppet movie, but it's pacing and story fit a newer, younger generation. It was what an all ages movie should be. It appealed to both adults and children and was a very welcome return to form while also being an entry into the Muppets. It did everything it needed to and more.
This muppets movie was the first film I saw in theaters and I'm so proud
I remember watching the 2011 Muppets when I was really young but I even more so remember watching Muppets Most Wanted. That sequel just really stuck with me, from its music to its humor. It’s just interesting that most of my nostalgia from the Muppets comes from its most recent movie
Those films were great entry points into Muppet properties. Nothing wrong with being nostalgic for them at all!
To this day the anger management scene is one of my favorite comedic bits ever lol, just the timing and delivery is so on point. Definitely a favorite Jack Black performance! 😂
IN CONTROLLLLLL!!!!!
The Muppets 2011 was my first introduction to the muppets on the big screen as I've had Kermit Swamp Years and a Very Merry Muppet Christmas when I was really young. Now I look at it more as Jim Henson created a family and build off of his inspiration for his friends to enioy working together after a long time. And that's what I see it each time. A chance to entertain again.
With the success of this film, I'd hoped for the remaining seasons of the Muppet Show and maybe another Old School Sesame Street set to be released on DVD - sadly this hasn't come true. Even though I grew up with Sesame Street, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the new film as a grown up, the music and story were great - plenty of humour, nostalgia and touching moments too.
It was a great mix. Someone in the comments pointed out that it had "sincerity". More so than other Muppet productions before or since and I agree with that. That sincerity is what made the Muppets and Sesame Street so charming to begin with. You believe because they believe.
My nostalgia is for Christmas Carol and Treasure Island. I'm still waiting for them to do another classic novel adaption, with Gonzo and Rizzo as audience surrogates.
Treasure Island, and Muppets Classic Theatre are my favourites
Recently on Brandon Sanderson's podcast, they were talking about how the Muppets should just lean into remaking classic books as muppet films. As they pointed out, Pride and Prejudice would make a hilarious muppet film, but so would Dante's Inferno (for very different reasons). The play that goes wrong (format I guess) is having a moment of popularity, but that is just playing on the same vibe as the muppet give a remake.
The Muppets Divine Comedy is a title that just works perfectly. Make Kermit Virgil, Live action Dante and whatever his girlfriend’s name was, and you’re set
My favorite Muppets film! It got me into the muppets!!
It's an excellent entry point. Lots of warm fuzzy feelings and charm!
Best modern Muppet Movie ever! I grew up with the modern muppet movies and love the muppet show on Disney+.
The original Muppet show from the 70s or the Muppets 2015 show?
This was my introduction to the Muppets as I can see it was for a lot of people. I was also about nine years old when It came out and it sparked my love for the Muppets and many conversations I had with my parents about it. The 2011 movie wasn’t the best Muppet movie and it definitely isn’t my favorite. But It will always have a special place in my heart.
So many people in the comments saying that this was their entry point and they became fans and had to go back and watch older stuff. This is all really heartwarming. Glad to chat with so many others who love these characters like I do.
I was 9 when Muppets 2011 came out and it was my LITERAL CHILDHOOD ❤❤❤
Yes! Glad you found this video then!
The Muppets ABC TV show would have been great without the Denise muppet. Eventually, Disney will figure the Muppets thing out.. I wish Jason Segal can be made Head of Muppets for Disney. He seems to get them.
deadass one of my top 5 movies of all time
I understand this. I continue to revisit it and while I wouldn't say it's in my top 5 movies, I'd say it's one of my most rewatched films of my lifetime.
Growing up although this is a musical my sister always enjoyed this movie. It was a movie we could always watch together without arguing
So what you are saying is that your sister hates musicals?
As much as I love "Muppets Most Wanted"...I do agree that the emotional stakes are way weaker than "The Muppets (2011)", because Jason Segel's involvement in the script made the movie have way more emotional stakes and heart in a lot of its moments while maintaining that silly charm The Muppets are known for. 2 examples are when Kermit sings "Pictures In My Head", and when Gary and Walter sing "Man Or Muppet?" in my favourite movie duet ever. "Man Or Muppet" specifically was so good, that it was deemed Oscar worthy by the academy and actually won. I'm not joking. "The Muppets (2011)", isn't just heartfelt but also extremely funny. One scene that comes to mind for me is when Kristen Schaal (Mabel from Gravity Falls) and Jack Black start a fight with each other after Jack Black punches Gary in the face after saying "Drum", since he didn't know it was his trigger word, and then Mabel comes in saying "Jack...we talked about this on Tuesday", only for him to respond saying "TUESDAY IS ANOTHER ONE OF MY TRIGGER WORDS" about to assault Mabel XD, but then misses only for her to punch him in the face. Based movie. I love the 2011 Muppets so much.
The fact that Bret McKenzie won an Oscar for "Man or Muppet" but hasn't really been recognized as a brilliant musician outside of it is crazy. The Flight of the Conchords is such a good comedy act. He's probably the best comedy songwriter of our time, even more so than Bo Burnham.
@@ModernMouse Absolutely!
i have a distant memory watching the Muppets most wanted in theaters. that was my first memory seeing the Muppets that i can remember so i'm kind of nostalgic for the Muppets most wanted.
That's great! I'm learning that there are plenty of people that feel the same way.
Same! One of my most vivid childhood memories is leaving the theater to use the restroom and coming back right as Constantine slapped the fake mole on Kermit and being so confused and kinda scared
The best bit is when the moopet version of Fozzie said 'Wacka wacka!' Doing a gang hand sign 😂😂😂
I find myself quoting the Moopets at least once a week!
Honestly Walter is my favorite Muppet. He's so adorable and funny. I really love Muppets Now and it was nice to see him in it!
That is some ridiculous heresy.
The 2011 movie was so good, I was never interested in The Muppets before but after that movie I started to really like the characters, I wish Jason Segel and Amy Adam's would've come back for the sequel.
That message at the end of the video about cherishing what you have instead of wanting more in the future is great.
I always try to find the message in everything. I think it's important to cherish the present. Thanks for hearing it.
I'm glad to see some love for the 2011 film. I think they should use them more in the parks, and that the Knives Out idea is actually the exact sort of thing that could make them great today
I'd love for a live stage show at the parks. They did one for a while at the Magic Kingdom in Florida which was well liked, and they came out to sing Christmas Carols at Disneyland. I was sad I didn't end up buying a ticket to see that because I would have wanted to sing along with them as they paraded down Main Street.
I was raised on the original Muppet Show (via reruns) and the orginal Muppet Babies show. I saw Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island in theaters when they came out. Kermit and Gonzo are my favourites and they got me through a lot of hard times. I enjoyed the 2011 film and found myself crying at Kermit's song. However I GREATLY loved the abc show and wished it could have kept going. I found the format a good way to update the format and greatly enjoyed the whole breakup arc.
I liked the ABC show as well. I think it had a lot going for it. It needed to work out a few kinks but otherwise it was a fantastic premise that appealed to multiple generations. It just needed more time.
@@ModernMouse it really did. I had hoped Netflix would pick it up and give it that but...siiiigh
A lot of new muppets production try to make references to past shows and movies, mostly by having films about "getting the crew back together" and having actual lore that all these muppets are themselves actors that you get to see behind the scenes.
I think what the muppets might need is a "reset", so to speak. Professor Bunsen has made a sort of time machine in an alternative timeline and the muppets enter this world from the seventies. just straight up a fifty years jump. None of the drama, maybe use mostly well known named muppets, but remake everything new. and then just let it develop from there.
No retooling with new girlfriends, no trying to rejuvenate the running gags that don't work because it's been 20 years since we last saw that joke, no nostalgia bait. Just make it actually something new and sincere.
Because underneath all the jokes and bits, that's what the muppets are supposed to be: Sincere. the romantic tension between Piggy and kermit is sincere, the desire to make the show work is sincere, and when Jim Henson died, they told a very sincere story about why they (the muppets, not just the muppeteers) wanted to keep the show going. The same sincerity is also why having the muppets as a guest in a talkshow works.
I miss the sincerity of the muppets, it all feels like it's made with a goal in mind of "it needs to make this much money or else we will cancel it, and we will make anything at all that could make us that much money". Especially when that has been proven to be right several times...
I agree that sincerity is a major part of who the Muppets are. I wouldn't mind somewhat of a soft reset in order to make the characters feel more like that. I think it's one of the reasons that Sesame Street has endured as long as it has without really needing to break that 4th wall, at least not in canon.
Love this film and it has a very special place in my heart
I remember when the first Muppet movie came out. I was just graduated out of high school. A buddy and I went and saw it. Not every song further on could be a Rainbow Connection. But it was a very good place to start.
My friend Cameron played one of the trick or treaters at the beginning of the movie. He is credited as Laughing Kid.
This is amazing information! I love that he got to be in it.
Whilst it's not my favourite Muppets film, I like how they tried to introduce new fans through the new character of Walter who I really liked, it's a shame they kind of dropped that character at that movie
He became a background player a bit too soon. I do agree Walter should have had a larger role in Most Wanted or in the ABC show to follow up with the 2011 film.
The am I a man song was shockingly meaningful for what was a pretty goofy sight gag
I think that's a specialty of Bret McKenzie, the songwriter, and his group of New Zealand comedians. Jemaine Clement, Rhys Darby, and Taika Waititi all have that same kind of "goofy but meaningful" humor that's been great to see over the last decade or two.
I saw the Irish premiere of this movie and it was such an incredible experience. I was only 6, but I was kind of familiar with the Muppets. I'd seen a few episodes of the Muppet show, and I'd seen Treasure Island. But this movie made me fall in love with them forever. It's one of my favourite movies of all time.
That sounds like a fun memorable time. Glad you got the chance to do that!
I just rewatched this film today and it still holds up. Even made me tear up in some parts.
It really is still so great.
Too many nostalgic moments! Including We Built this City!
Maybe, but the Muppets, at the point the film came out, were basically a nostalgia act. There was nothing new or fresh about them. I felt like this movie made some good choices in revitalizing the characters and making them new again for a new generation while still appealing to those who grew up watching them. In terms of writing the script, I'd assume that was a major challenge.
Jason Segel really did revive the Muppets with this movie. He brought credibility and he brought authenticity back to the gang. He was absolutely amazing and I thank him for that.
As far as I am concerned, I don't believe the whole notion that Disney had no clue what to do with them. It all has to do with the Muppet Studio execs making horribly bad decisions. Not bringing back Jason Segal for the 2014 film, the indecisive writing differences for the Muppets TV show, firing Steve Whitmire, Muppets Now being a complete flop, and rejecting Josh Gad's script about a sequel to the Muppets Take Manhattan. I think if they would have made Steve Whitmire a head executive at the Muppets Studio, Disney would have been able to right the ship that is the Muppets. I'm kinda shocked they haven't sold the Muppets off to a company that may have better ideas and how to carry them out.
They did hand them off to Disney Imagineering. That's how we got Muppets Haunted Mansion.
@@ModernMouse I'm not really talking about Disney, per se. I mean another company in general. If Disney has no idea what they want with them, how does handing them off to their Imagineering division do anything?
@@brandonbutler9786 Sure I totally understand, but if someone at Disney knows what to do I'll take it. I'm not picky. People liked Muppets Haunted Mansion and I'm hoping that the upcoming Mayhem show is good.
I did not grow up with The Muppets. I knew Sesame Street, sure. But The Muppets was a total game changer for me. I was introduced to the '70s show only a week after I had suddenly lost my mom at 15. I devoured the DVDs my pastor let me borrow. It brought great comfort in a time when I felt so very lost and alone. Since then almost 13 years later, I have certainly become a Henson admirer. The 2011 movie was a treat to experience as a recent fan back then. Though, I definitely think Jim, if he were still around, would have been disappointed in the deal he was trying to work out with Disney (just before he passed. It was extremely stressful as he wasn't a dealer, he was an artist. And Eisner and Disney just kept pushing for a better deal even after Jim died, until they finally reached an agreement in 2004. It was a legal nightmare). How Disney just keeps the Muppets on a ventilator, only pulling them out when they feel like it. Disney isn't protecting Henson's characters like he hoped they would. There's no spark left, unless a team like Segel had shows up again, and knows what to do and how to do it. I certainly feel cheated, to say the least.
I mean for crying out loud there are only 3 seasons of The Muppet show on DVD, out of 5 seasons! Do us the very minimal effort, Disney, and give us at least the remaining 2 seasons in DVD format. They owe us that much. I'm sorry for the rant, as you can tell I have very strong opinions on the matter...oops. But as you said, the Muppets were catching lighting in a bottle in 2011. The team worked wonders on bringing it to life. It will always be a favorite of mine and one that I return to frequently, just like the show.
Thank you for sharing your personal story. I'm glad Jim Henson's creations could bring you some happiness in a time of need. As for him, had he not died, Disney would have purchased the company, but also got him too. I have no doubt that they would have let Jim do whatever he wanted, especially under the Michael Eisner and Frank Wells era of Disney. It's a shame that the buyout years later came without a "leader" for the Muppets. They really need someone, like a Jason Segel, to stand up for them. I'm glad that other Henson creations like Sesame Street and the Fraggles aren't a Disney property. At least those things can still really thrive, but the Muppets are what represent Henson most so it would be nice to see something come from Disney.
This is the greatest movie of all time
It's because you are a star, Walter!
Why don’t they just make more Muppet adaptations of classic stories?
I went to a talk with Kirk Thatcher who is a long time Muppet collaborator last week. He stated that this is something the often consider. It's more a matter of budget than anything else.
I would worry they couldn't do it right unless they got Brian Henson as a director again.
Those two movies he did are amazing not just script wise. All those costumes? Historically accurate. The Muppet Christmas Carol is one of the the most, of not the most, book accurate versions. I'd be willing to be Muppet Treasure Island is too.
Brian Henson worked on Muppets Haunted Mansion. He came in to puppeteer some of his old characters. I think there is this presumption that he and Disney have beef and it doesn't exist. He just hasn't been approached to do anything or wasn't interested in projects. I think you could easily get Brian Henson to come in and do something if you pitched the right story to him and gave him the director's chair.
Ever heard of Haunted Mansion?
@@uli_Gio What do you mean? I watched Muppets Haunted Mansion. I also live 10 minutes away from Disneyland and attended a talk with the director of the special this past week.
The movie made me feel nostalgic for a show I never watched
That's probably the biggest stamp of approval I've ever heard!
This video was so well put together! I loved your emphasis on the legacy, and I definitely agree with what you said about the 2011 film being more of an outlier then a revival. Great job!
Also, I definitely wasn’t expecting to see myself in this video haha! What a great surprise
That's because you are a rockstar!
It's already been ten years? You're making me feel old. Oh, _this_ video is one year old. Damn.
I had grewn up with the original Muppets back in the early '80s, and this movie mostly just made me feel sad.
Why did the movie make you feel sad?
Jason seagle was supposedly actually writing a puppet Dracula musical. It wasn't supposed to be in forgetting Sarah marshal at all but they apparently thought it was so funny that they incorporated it into the film
Funnily enough, my mom had DVDs of some seasons of The Muppet Show and me and my sister loved to watch them. Then all of a sudden, a new Muppet movie comes out! It was this movie!
What a great way to have the Muppets introduced to you! Glad you got to see the show and then this movie.
I remember bringing my little brother to see The Muppets, we both loved it!
I went with a good friend at the time. Just two dudes having a wholesome time watching a frog sing Rainbow Connection.
I went and saw this at the theater on my 31st birthday. Depressed and wanting to be alone, I found a corner seat and laughed my ass off. Segal did it right and if I could personally thank him for giving me a happy birthday; I would. I'm a man AND a Muppet 🙂
I had this same sort of experience. Went alone to the theater. Was just hoping for something good. Ended up brightening my spirits. It's one of very few films I saw more than once in theaters because I dragged a friend along a few days later.
My mum loved the Muppet Show and was so excited to show us the 2011 film, now The Muppets is probably my favourite film!
Me and my fellow chef sing, "am I man, or am I a muppet" at least weekly. This movie is underrated as hell.
This sounds like a kitchen I'd like to cook in honestly!
The modern muppets owes EVERYTHING to Jason segal. Can I just say that? Guys a miracle worker.
Josh you're videos are dope and Epic as always bro
Appreciate you my friend!
@@ModernMouse no problem bro continue being awesome
My first real taste of The Muppets as well.
I've been hearing from several people who said this film was their introduction. Glad that it was!
I loved the 2011 movie & thought it was great modern spin at the time. I was so excited for the return and while different it felt loved. It just needs someone passionate about the muppets in charge. Though that family guy joke about a bunch of wrong sounding muppets is becoming more relevant to me.
You hit the nail on the head with the love. This was a movie made with love and you could feel it coming at you through the screen.
Does anyone else shed a Tear during Rainbow Connection?! 🐸🥹🌈
I do...or if I don't shed a tear, I am at least on the verge of it.
I’m glad to know that other people weren’t satisfied with Muppets: Most Wanted! I saw it with some family friends when I was a wee lad and I was the only one in our group that wasn’t at all impressed with the film. After all these years, it’s refreshing to know that I wasn’t a stick in the mud!
It was better than this one. Muppets most wanted is incredible! But I’m a flight of the conchords fan so them being more involved in the music made it amazing.
The muppets reboot as a late night talkshow was pretty entertaining. They should've kept it going, was giving me like Family Guy, South park potential vibes.
It had a ton of potential. Shame it didn't get a second season or that it didn't debut a few years later. I think it would have found it's audience more on Disney+ than on ABC. 2015 was a bad year for TV because people just aren't watching regular TV anymore.
It was so much fun. And yes, I cried a few times.
We all cried. It's okay.
Hi Jason Segel , You Did A Good Job Voiseing Vector And Gary That Was Fantastic Good For You Iam Proud Of You To Do That !
This is the movie that got me hooked on the Muppets. It came out when I was 13 when it came out. I was always vaguely aware of the Muppets despite growing up on Sesame Street. I thought the Muppets Fairy Tales tape was funny. Muppets 2011 and Muppets Most Wanted restarted my love for the franchise. I went back and watched the original series and I die of laughter whenever I watch it. My favorate characters are Kermit, Ms. Piggy, Scooter, Statler and Waldorf, Gonzo.
Thanks for all of the comments. I'm so glad you connected with the Muppets through this film and the sequel and that they got you to go back and revisit some of the original show. You definitely aren't alone in that and it's why I thought, along with many people, that the Muppets were going to have a major revival.
My introduction to the muppets was reruns of the muppet show as a young child in the late 80’s on nick jr and I loved it never missing an episode while loving muppet babies on Saturday mornings on cbs then I also would have been apart of the target audience for Sesame Street Jim Henson’s other franchise
I definitely grew up on the first iteration of Muppet babies as well as Eureka's Castle and Fraggle Rock. Those weremy first introductions into Jim Henson's world.
The 2018-2021 muppet babies show is gold. If you haven’t seen it check it out!
I've watched a few episodes. Obviously not made for me, in particular, but it's very well done.
Great video man, i saw this movie in theaters when it came out as a kid. Good times 👍🏻
Personally I think that Disney should hire a west end venue , some cracking writers and performers, and do a muppets variety show for 2 or 3 months trial period. I think marketed correctly it could potentially do well, at least well enough to tour the uk for a year or two. I think that would be really great.
There is honestly no reason that a live stage show wouldn't do well. They often run puppet improv shows at the Henson studio lot and they sell out every time with pretty minimal advertising. I've actually seen the show several times now. I'd imagine Disney, using the actual Muppets, would make a killing. Put it on Broadway. Put it on the West End. Put it in their theme parks. I definitely think it would work!
shaking the bars of my cage like "why did the powers that be lose faith in walter as an audience surrogate!!?!"
I wish I could answer this question for you. I adore Walter. He was really a great vantage point for both new and older viewers.
I still listen to “Man Or Muppet” a lot
We all do. Seems like we could put together a performance if I got all of you from the comments together!
The Muppets need to host the Oscars
Who do I need to call before Sunday to make this a reality?
first time on your channel and love the green bird from The Three Caballeros
Hey thanks! The plush on the wall was a gift from a friend. Jose is my favorite Disney character so people always bring me back stuff like that. I have a few other Jose items but didn't want to overcrowd the wall.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I liked Muppets Most Wanted.
Ralph is such a good Muppet character. He’s just such a GOAT.
The key things that keeps getting mentioned is trying to fit them into a formula. Trying to only make money. What made Segel’s movie work is he genuinely loved The Muppets. Not the money they could make, and not trying to make a story formula work. His movie was made with love for the characters. That mark is what becomes missing from all other endeavors. They look at dollar signs, and that is it.
I think it's slightly more complicated than that. You aren't wrong though! Money is a huge motivating factor when it shouldn't be. Something that even Walt Disney disagreed with is making art only for money. I think the struggle for the Muppets comes with tone. the Segel made film set a certain tone that the projects that followed it didn't match...so they didn't work. The Muppets have had several different tones though. The original show isn't anything like Muppet Treasure Island. Treasure Island doesn't feel like Muppets Tonight. Muppets Tonight doesn't feel like the Segel movie.
Cool video, subbed. Loved the Muppets since the Storyteller era.
Thanks! Welcome to the party here!
I'm telling you, they had NO RIGHT to make that song SO GOOD. You know which one.
I thought of nearly every song on the soundtrack and the answer to all of them is yes.
Notice the moment from The Muppets where Sweetums is running after them? That was a joke on The Muppet Movie, where they redid the scene where he worked before he became part of the gang.
Great video Josh!
Appreciate that! Thank you so much!
I love the opening number. It's still in me head
It's my favorite. It's so wholesome and heartwarming. What a fantastic piece of film!
With the ABC’s Muppets of 2015 it was a 50/50 coin toss that it could have really taken off in the second season, the first had a decent sized audience. Not enough to be highest rating but it was doing decent for it’s time, the issue was that someone new was put in charge and began canceling any shows that weren’t highest rating and not under their name.
This movie gave NZ an Emmy that wasn’t best VFX.
Eventually that group of NZ comedians would get some awards. Bret McKenzie, Jemaine Clement, Rhys Darby, and Taika Waititi are some of the best minds in comedy and storytelling that we have.
You know what Disney needs to do? Muppet remakes of classic films that Disney now owns. They need to treat Muppets as a medium, a lens through which a story can be told. There have been enough stories told about Muppets, let's tell some stories with Muppets. Treasure Island and Christmas Carol were hits, and they own the largest IP library in the world to choose from.
Cast Away, Home Alone, Star Wars, Hello Dolly, THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW, The Sound of Music, Young Frankenstein, all the classic Disney animated features, Indiana Jones, THE PRINCESS BRIDE, Miracle on 34th Street, Mrs. Doubtfire, The Waterboy, The King and I, That Thing You Do, Titanic, 9 to 5, Evita, the list goes on!
I recognize that some of those may not end up with hits, but I would absolutely see quite a few of them succeeding in the Muppet Remake format.
I agree completely.
Birds of the same feather.
Wait, that movie is 12 years old now!? I feel old... :u
I feel the exact same way.