Palestinians: If you knew Jews were indigenous, would it make a difference?
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8:15 *best answer*
"nobody in the universe is pure race, not even the Germans"-(this answer is the best answer I ever heard in my life)...
While there is no pure race, there is a typical race and predominant look. A Japanese person can be identified easily by face and other physical characteristics and will look different from a German person. An Arab will stand out in Finland because his face will look different. And most black people in the US are also not pure. Still called black and identified as such in the USA.
@chained2it Depending on the country and the people's opinion, these are either races or not races. The Japanese consider themselves a RACE. Go and try and change their minds. In old times, the English considered the Irish and the Jews to be RACES. Again, you would have to argue with some 40 million people that they are not. Are Arabs a race? Some people will say yes and some will say no. It depends on who is classifying.
We're talking about indigenous
Go to Finland and walk around. Look at the people. Go to Korea and look around. Look at the people. While they may not be pure, they can immediately spot a non Finn and a non Korean. If an Arab goes to Korea, he will stick out like a sore thumb in spite of the fact that Koreans are not "pure" race. They still look Korean and can recognize each other.
@Forever Learning Many Palestinians and other's in the Levant have light skin and blonde hair.
One of the interviewers said that a native person would speak some of the language of the neighboring people. At the time of 3500 years ago the trading super powers of the Middle East were Babylon and Assyria. Jews spoke with each other in Hebrew and their holy texts are in Hebrew. But Jewish artifact found in archeological digs are actually written in Aramaic with Jewish symbols such as the menorah. This shows that there was a Jewish people in trade and commerce with Assyria and Babylon but also had a unique culture of their own.
The Palestinians in the West Bank mostly are brainwashed by Hamas, just like a cult. So Hamas is rich and the Palestinians stay poor being fed propaganda. It's exactly like so many cults but much stronger because Hamas also uses Islam, which the people already believe. It's crazy how a religion can be used to control people even though the people are not very religious. They only follow the stuff that Hamas drives into their heads despite how ridiculous. Remember that the Quran states that the sun orbits the earth and many other things that we know to not be true. That is the religion they follow blindly. Islam is slowly crumbling in free countries because the Muslims there are free to believe what they observe to be true instead of worrying that they will be killed if they speak out against Islam. Can you imagine being part of a religion that kills you for deciding you do not believe in it anymore and will kill you if you commit adultery. Islam forced them many centuries ago and now they are slaves to it. Oh yeah, Islam condones slavery. How can we win against people who follow a book like that. Read the Quran and you will see for yourself. I am not religious at all. I live according to logic and love. I live to be free, not controlled by a book written by a god that says the sun orbits the earth and we must kill non believers eventually. Do not believe what I say. Just read that book and see for yourself why we are in trouble.
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Aramaic is most similar to Arabic. It would not take difficultly to switch from Aramaic to Arabic. Do you think when Umayyad empire included Palestine in the seventh century, the country was totally unpopulated? No. Could be locals converted to Islam and adopted Arabic.
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@@gwadar_cpec2110 We know that by the 7th century the original inhabitants of the territory, the Jews/Israelites, already suffered many slaughters and mass exiles by various empires and the vast majority of the indigenous people was gone because of it. Migrants from nearby territories were the majority of the land ever since, instead of the indigenous population. This is known from archaeological and historic evidence. Even if all the locals that survived the slaughters and exiles (who are actually indigenous) converted to Islam and adopted Arabic, they are still a tiny portion of the original indigenous population.
And Aramaic is a semitic language, both Hebrew and Arabic derive from it and are similar.
Ask: if Jews are aliens to Palestine, how do you explain the closeness of Hebrew to Arabic?
Not all Jews are Semitic or Jews by blood, the Ashkenazi/African/Indian..etc Jews are not Semitic who converted to Judaism and came to Palestine/ Israel and start speak Hebrew
The Jews are not aliens to Palestine the modern IsraelI people are the "aliens" to Palestine because they came to Palestine from all around the world just because their forefathers converted to Judaism and they become Jews
Hebrew and Arabic and Aramaic.. Etc are Semitic languages from the middle East anyone now from any part of the world can can start speak this languages and make it his children first language and maybe even his parents and grandparents Spock it but that will not make him part of the middle East and it will not make him Semitic so he can't came to middle East and occupy it just because he speak like them
Hebrew was a dead language revived using Arabic. Both Semitic languages but Hebrew is only as close as it is because Arabic was used to revive it.
@@Allinda. not quite.
Jeff Cohen
Yes it is
Love you, Corey. Again this was an incredible question to ask Palestinians. Thanks for doing this project.
Totally agree. We are all mixed people.
Regardless of physical appearance or blood quantum, it's your culture that determines it. So yes, the Jews are the Indigenous people of Israel. That does not mean that Arabs (today's Palestinians) cannot live in Israel. They have a right to live there as well.
I hope that one day we will stop politicising everything. 🕊
Wrong, Palestinians and some Arab Jews plus other minorities are the native people of modern-day Israel and Palestine. That doesn't mean that other Jews cannot live in modern day Palestine and Israel too. I hope some day people can see their oxymoronic statements and be justly biased towards better truth
So Palestinians are an ethnic group now? “And some Arab Jews”? They are Diaspora Jews who lived in “Arab lands”, not Arab Jews. They are also known as Mizrahi Jews. It doesn't matter if they are Mizrahim, Sephardim, or Askenazim. They are Jews and all Jews are from Judea/Israel.
@@deysytacza Again the term Mizrahi is not reflected in their genetics, as they were and still are more closely related to the host region where they came from before than they are to Sephardic or Ashkenazi or even other Mizrahi Jews. So, it is more correct ethnically speaking to call the Jews of the Levant as Arab Jews than Mizrahi Jews.
@@deysytacza Also, Palestinian is a national identity that symbolizes resistance to an occupying power. Palestinians are genetically closely related to Jordanians, Lebanese, and some Syrians. All the groups I mentioned are far more indigenous to the land on average than Israelis are. They are the direct descendants of the ancient Israelites, Philistines and Phoenicians.
@@mohal-sal3998 There is no such thing as being more indigenous, you are either indigenous or not. Blood quantum is a colonial ideology. Jews have Jewish DNA, not Arab or European. Some are mixed, but most of the Jews I have met are over 85% Jewish and most of them can trace that they came from the Levant.
Palestinian is a nationality like being American, not a DNA or ancestry. “Palestine” is a colonial name. They are Levantine Arabs, Egyptians and Arabs. Some have Jewish ancestry, but that doesn't matter because having indigenous ancestry doesn't make you indigenous. They can still live there - ofc.
But they are not “more indigenous” than the Jews.
Anyone claiming that Jews don't have rights to any part of Palestine:
This is as absurd as arguing that because Native Americans were decimated, they no longer have any legitimate rights to America. Jews are the most native inhabitants of the Levant (i.e. Palestine) -- having lived there continuously, in greater and lesser numbers, for 3,000 years. This is actually a tie with the other oldest inhabitants of the Levant -- the
Shomronim/Samaritans.
This does not mean that Arabs have no legitimate claim to the Levant either. But no one can make a serious argument that Jews have no claim. It is frankly just common sense -- the whole Christian and Muslim world knew for centuries that it was the Jews who were the only ones to ever have a long period of sovereignty (1,000 years) in the Levant.
Moreover, in recent times, the legitimate owner of the land, the British Empire, assigned parts of it to the Jews. Most of the land that encompasses the original UN partition plan borders was bought and paid for by various Jewish groups between 1880-1940s from previous, mostly Arab, landowners. Is purchasing land legal?! The Jews were then illegally attacked by the Arabs, in 1948 and 1967, expanding their territory in 2 defensive wars. No one can possibly claim a war of self-defense is illegal. The Jews rights are then -- historical (3,000 years old), international (British Empire, League of Nations, and the UN all granted the Jews rights to the land), and legal (the land conquered in addition to that land which was granted by international authorities was all conquered in self-defense of Arab aggression).
Majority of Palestinian ancestry is Jewish. They converted to Islam during the Umayyad empire and adopted Arabic from Aramaic. Their DNA proves this theory.
@@gwadar_cpec2110 Even if their DNA proves this theory (I would love to see the research since i've looked all over and didn't find one that validates this theory), we are talking about the small part of the total Jewish population that survived mass slaughters and exiles. By 125AD (about 500 years before the Umayyd empire) the vast majority of the original indigenous Jewish population is already in exile or dead. If 1% of the Navajo tribe adopt American culture and abandon their original culture, they don't have the right to make indigenous claims at the expense of the other 99% of Navajo members, and claim the vast Navajo territory as their own.
@@YotamAlbalach The vast majority of Jews in the entire world lived outside of the Kingdom of Judah even in Jesus' time, and never set foot there. In fact, the majority of Jews lived outside Judah, even in the time of Alexander the Great. We can find signs of Jewish activity in Spain as much as 500 years before the destruction of the Temple, and we have records of Jews numerous enough in Rome to be worthy of being expelled in 200s BC.
It is thought that the size of the Jewish population in antiquity can only be explained by one thing: conversion. And that is what the genetics bear out: all people who call themselves Jewish today are the descendants of, predominantly though not entirely, non-Jewish people, both converts and non-Jewish spouses of Jews.
Meanwhile, the Jewish inhabitants of Judah/Judea, were never expelled or exiled after the Temple's destruction. We know this because of the scholarly writings of Rabbis who continued to live there for centuries. Over time, having converted to Christianity and then Islam, they became the modern Palestinians.
My point is this: the Palestinians are more 'Jewish' in their lineage than anyone who calls themselves Jewish today, and have continuously inhabited that territory, whilst the Jews have not at all. And so the Jewish separation, both in lineage and especially in time, from that land and the ancestral people of it, strips them of all possible historical or genealogical claim to the land.
Well said!
This guy is so biased in his speech. If everyone went back to where there ancestors were from the whole world would be rearranged
There is no such thing as pure race. There is nothing such as monopoly land for a nation.
All humans should relocate back to East Africa.
Nobosy says to go back milliona of years ago relax
Thats what the arabs want.
@@alfalafelstine1536 you go first
Current Israelis do not relate to Palestine because their fathers were born in Europe, Russia, USA, Yemen, Morocco, and Iraq. But before 1935, there was a large Palestinian Jewish community.
KHALDUN ALQAISI خلدون ع. ع. القيسي So you think they can go back to Yemen or Libya or Syria?
Yes, if they can, why not. They should also be compensated. Here I would also raise the issue of the Palestinian refugees who should return to Palestine. Now they are stateless in Arab states.
my grandfather born here but there was not a large jewish community
jews from arab land will never want to go back altough we love our culture
You realize that Europeans did not consider them European? And that they killed something like 85% of them. So much for Jewish being "European", they look Middle Eastern and sound Middle Eastern.
Why are you so aggressive? It's like you're forcing them to give you the answer that you want. Also, you asked if it would make a difference so of course they will bring up the political side of it. You're literally asking for the political of it and then telling them that you didn't ask them that. I also noticed your difference in treating Palestinians and Israelis...very biased
r u palestinian?
Zionists ethnically cleansed Palestinians. They even denied the existence of the Palestinian people. They denied their right of return to their homeland. But suddenly, when it came to their interest to prove that Jews are related to the ME, they recognized them and used them as a proof. You know why? because this doctor said in another video that there is no proof today's Israelis are genetically connected to the Biblical Hebrews coz no traces of their DNA were found so they used the DNA from Palestinians and Levantines.
Because when you force them you can see they have 0 answers
@@salmasay3370 Where did you hear that. There is ancient jewish DNA. You should search on Google.
Timor Cohen They’re not political like Israeis
Leaving for 1500 years... 50 generations. If you mix only 5 times out of 50 then you are 6% indigenous. Mix 6 times and you are 3%.
My DNA says I'm 95% indigenous 💪. Most of the jews only married jews
@@timorcohen4641. If that's true then how do you explain the majority of Judah looking like white Europeans? It's just impossible to not mix in such a long time my guy...
@@ShayPatrickCormacTHEHUNTER I'm middle eastern jew and my mom looks Erupean, some palastinians looks Erupean too, my frienf is one she is palastinian with funny curly hair 🤣
@@somegirl4631. That's due to mixes in the past. An unmixed middle easterner doesn't look like an European. But a mixed one does. It's natural. I'm not saying you're less of a jew if you look like that. You only become less of a jew when you accept European culture and values.
@Schlomo Shillman Shekelstein
my family was in Babylon 500 before it was even called "iraq" how exactly am I just "another iraqi"? 😂
I took a genetic exam and it shows that i have a genetic relationship with places in europe, africa and the middle east, but that doesn't give me the right to land in those regions.
That's besides the point. Jews are called foreigners yet they're not.
If you ask me it absolutely doesn't matter but some people care, so it is what it is.
theillegalcause Wherever you live now I am sure the land does not belong to you,,, your claim to the land is non existent and yet you live on this land,,,,, how come????
@@E0011 It's not beside the point if it's used repeatedly over time to justify what the Israelis are doing. Almost everyone that uses this exact lame argument has the same agenda.
@@E0011 They're foreigners. Or at least new immigrants to Israel are. I'm an American whose ancestry is predominantly Irish, but I'm still a foreigner to Ireland. Same with the fact that ultimately my ancestry goes back to East Africa, like every other human on this planet.
They don't look Europian to me, they look Levantine. They look like a right match for Palestine. And they look very nice indeed.
To Arabs, they look European. Because most have never been to Europe. So they think these are Khawajas- Europeans.
@@vidong1704 Sorry what century are you living in?
@@salmaaq9042 Present. I got called Khawaja by Arabs
I believe it's Corey who views them as European-looking? I'm a Palestinian Arab and they look like Palestinian Arabs to me. So maybe try not speaking for us since you are a "khawaja" :)
@@salmaaq9042 I was called Khawaja by Saudis.
The skinny kid with the dark wavy black hair and blue eyes could easily pass as Jewish
@@laithnk hes muslim
Jewish is not a race, you mean he can pass as one of the children of Canaan? Canaans are Arabs.
"Palestinians who look European to me because I thought that added more irony" is not a very intelligent thing to say. wtf does "look European" mean? do you mean fair? yes, there are fair Palestinians.... because there isn't only one way to look Palestinian- we come in all shades and it doesn't make us any less Palestinian!
Arab palestinians too, as many jews, came from North Africa , parts of Asia and even Europe
That was the right way to put it, actually, since Palestinian deny that Jews have a right on the land PRECISELY based on looks, i.e. "they look European, thus they are not from here". Basically, by interviewing European looking Palestinians, he demonstrated that this stereotype is accepted only when it proves their point and it refers to Jews ... but not when it's about themselves. Example: an European looking Jew shouldn't have land in Israel, but an European looking Palestinian should. Different standards.
07:41 this guy just nailed it...there are no such thing as pure races therefor there shouldn't be lands and countries based on that. Frontiers should be just map lines!
Oh yeah let's go back to 10000000 years ago
Well science also proved that all non African DNA is part neanderthal so not sure who told you it's no such thing
By race the only one scientifically proven to be the oldest and most compatible to sustaining life for any other "race" would still be derived from the African or aboriginal line. The truth about race is it only became a thing when European learned how inferior they were in the grand scheme of the world when moors came to Europe they learned truths that they never knew and despised the love and adoration and were tired of being led so they unified to wipe out the existence of the moors who are also descendants of the biblical Israelites and truth is Christianity is a perversion of Islam and Israelite practices to divide and distort claims in the middle east while they colonized the region and drew imaginary lands in sand.
@Infernal Moondance the planet was designed for melanated people period so that commonality is a DNA marker and a signifier that we are welcome into the sun the one the gives life to the planet now imagine being the only people on earth burned by the sun that would piss any person off now imagine that pissing off a person who made themselves believe they privileged only to see they weren't in the grand scheme even close to it ..those sour grapes enough to make them want to fight and they did and now every brown nation has a European occupation in their land their wealth robbed legacy destroyed because they made race a thing while the rest of us knee we were accepted in the world it's the ones who needed to be accepted that created the indoctrination of racism. What do those chosen by the sun have to prove we superior for when the sun says it understand you need to understand the enemy to understand their reasoning race only matters to one people on the earth those whose make up is rejected by the earth.
So lets just say if we tell the Greeks that it's not the homeland of greek peopel and decimate their historical sites to erase and ties to the land... that's what the Palestinians are doing in Israel
That young arab guy was really intelligent, right, no one is of pure blood, so wheather you are arab or jew is not the issue, its how you treat each other thats has created all the conflict, both sides have disrespected each other.
He who lives by the sword dies by the sword, war is a waste of time!
You got all the answers don't you.. British Imperialism was so violent in lands they had nothing to do with in the first place. Here Zionism is a return movement proven by paternal DNA lineage that the claim is valid. There is no perfection and both sides need to accept each other. The resurrection of Israel is a Biblical premonition so good luck objecting it.
leira
The genetic proof shows only that Jews and Palestinians are related. It in no way justifies killing Palestinians and taking their homes. I watch this video and the one where Jews are asked. Palestinians acknowledge the test results pretty much like the Jews, but it’s clear that that the Jews have not suffered and their reactions show that. It also shows the most of the Jews would try to live in peace if their government and hamas would just get out of the way.
@@_robustus_ were open to suggestions to get hamas out of the way when they include hadith in their charter that calls for killing *all* jews (not *merely* israelis or zionists) ; this is not a political issue for them it ideological
A Name I chose
Of course it is. They’re reminded everyday what life under occupation is. But it doesn’t have to be. When Palestinians have a positive relationship with Israeli neighbors they wont have any use for hamas. This means no settlements and a return of self determination.
@@_robustus_ this is, for them, reality: (it makes it difficult to have an honest discussion) czcams.com/video/gxXhI8sC4Og/video.html
All humans are originally from Africa, does that mean everyone should return there because of their ancestors??
depends were all humans abused becuse they came from there? has they been trough countless genocides? had they been prying to come back to africa for over 2000 years?
Where are you from
That’s like asking native Americans if they knew the European colonizers were native would it make a difference
Nope, since europeans are not from america but jews are partly from israel. That's the point
Jews are originated from JUDEA which is in Israel, so that makes them natives to that land, just like the Native Americans are natives to America...
@@noam8080 you mean the Zionists made them believe these lies. Claiming a land after 2000 years is nonsense
this is your best video I’ve seen yet ❤
Good piece of journalism, it explains a lot in a few words
so if science says I m related to someone, I m allowed to take their home, right?
Abd l hameed its not their home.
they where the one eho take it.
judea = jews.
arabs = saudi arabia.
Dardahan
Palestinians are not originally arabs, they just adopted the arabic language.
Dardahan and idiot= you
Nir Hakimian
I m not muslim sir
and btw my holy place is under ur house, can I dig to get it.
Abd l hameed yes they origanelly arabs.
What if the Red indians return one fine morning and ask the Americans to leave America ? Will America stand up for the indigenous people as it has done for the Jews
If you're going to quote 'science' in this way, at least be consistent and explanatory, and at least have the paper(s) to hand.
+Greig are you off your rocker, you think they have english skills and time to sit there for hours reading scientific papers. And BTW dawkins doesn't go around with the scientific papers to hand to people for evolution.
Genetic studies are "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".
The two most respected scientists in the field are:
Behar DM, et al (July 2010). "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people". Nature. 466 (7303): 238-42.
www.nature.com/articles/nature09103
Work by Ostrer H, Skorecki K (February 2013). "The population genetics of the Jewish people". Human Genetics. 132 (2): 119-27 also back up Behar's work.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/
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In August 2012, Dr. Harry Ostrer in his book Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People, summarized his and other work in genetics of the last 20 years, and concluded that all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin.
Harry, Ostrer (2012). Legacy a Genetic History of the Jewish People. Oxford University Press
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Citing autosomal DNA studies, Nicholas Wade estimates that "Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews have roughly 30 percent European ancestry, with most of the rest from the Middle East." He further noticed that "The two communities seem very similar to each other genetically, which is unexpected because they have been separated for so long." Concerning this relationship he points to Atzmon's conclusions that "the shared genetic elements suggest that members of any Jewish community are related to one another as closely as are fourth or fifth cousins in a large population, which is about 10 times higher than the relationship between two people chosen at random off the streets of New York City
Wade, Nicholas (2010-06-09). "Studies Show Jews' Genetic Similarity". The New York Times.
www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html
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The genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry.
Sources:
Blazer, Dan G.; Hernandez, Lyla M., eds. (2006). "The Importance of Ancestral Origin". Genes, Behavior, and the Social Environment: Moving Beyond the Nature/Nurture Debate. p. 100.
books.google.com.bo/books?id=gFtYAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA100&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Katsnelson, Alla (3 June 2010). "Jews worldwide share genetic ties". Nature.
Frudakis, Tony (2010). "Ashkenazi Jews". Molecular Photofitting: Predicting Ancestry and Phenotype Using DNA. Elsevier. p. 383
books.google.com.bo/books?id=9vXeydpj7VkC&pg=PA383&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Mario Canaan In a study of Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslim Arabs, more than 70% of the Jewish men and 82% of the Arab men whose DNA was studied, had inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors, who lived in the region within the last few thousand years. "Our recent study of high-resolution microsatellite haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool."
Source:
Nebel A, Filon D, Weiss DA, Weale M, Faerman M, Oppenheim A, Thomas MG (December 2000). "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews". Human Genetics. 107 (6): 630-41.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s004390000426
and yes , i'm a white palestinian guy with blue eyes!
You may have been the offspring during the Crusades or during the Byzantine Empire
and am mizrahim
david Paul you see in the video most of the Palestinian people is whites not blacks like the mizahi Jews lol 😂 the Palestinian people is not Arabs thy have Greek and Canaanite
You are mixed with the sea
People
Semites mixed with them
@@robertal760 It's not uncommon for Palestinians and other's in the Levant to have light skin. You would be surprised.
Hhahahaa so funny when you say to your translator at 1:52 that the Jews are from here how she reacted.
Its true that arab and the jew are blood related they are actually cusins
Arab, Jews neither are related to eurotrash zionists!
Genetic studies are "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".
The two most respected scientists in the field are:
Behar DM, et al (July 2010). "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people". Nature. 466 (7303): 238-42.
www.nature.com/articles/nature09103
Work by Ostrer H, Skorecki K (February 2013). "The population genetics of the Jewish people". Human Genetics. 132 (2): 119-27 also back up Behar's work.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/
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In August 2012, Dr. Harry Ostrer in his book Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People, summarized his and other work in genetics of the last 20 years, and concluded that all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin.
Harry, Ostrer (2012). Legacy a Genetic History of the Jewish People. Oxford University Press
-----------------------
Citing autosomal DNA studies, Nicholas Wade estimates that "Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews have roughly 30 percent European ancestry, with most of the rest from the Middle East." He further noticed that "The two communities seem very similar to each other genetically, which is unexpected because they have been separated for so long." Concerning this relationship he points to Atzmon's conclusions that "the shared genetic elements suggest that members of any Jewish community are related to one another as closely as are fourth or fifth cousins in a large population, which is about 10 times higher than the relationship between two people chosen at random off the streets of New York City
Wade, Nicholas (2010-06-09). "Studies Show Jews' Genetic Similarity". The New York Times.
www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html
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The genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry.
Sources:
Blazer, Dan G.; Hernandez, Lyla M., eds. (2006). "The Importance of Ancestral Origin". Genes, Behavior, and the Social Environment: Moving Beyond the Nature/Nurture Debate. p. 100.
books.google.com.bo/books?id=gFtYAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA100&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Katsnelson, Alla (3 June 2010). "Jews worldwide share genetic ties". Nature.
Frudakis, Tony (2010). "Ashkenazi Jews". Molecular Photofitting: Predicting Ancestry and Phenotype Using DNA. Elsevier. p. 383
books.google.com.bo/books?id=9vXeydpj7VkC&pg=PA383&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Mario Canaan In a study of Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslim Arabs, more than 70% of the Jewish men and 82% of the Arab men whose DNA was studied, had inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors, who lived in the region within the last few thousand years. "Our recent study of high-resolution microsatellite haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool."
Source:
Nebel A, Filon D, Weiss DA, Weale M, Faerman M, Oppenheim A, Thomas MG (December 2000). "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews". Human Genetics. 107 (6): 630-41.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s004390000426
@@cyrus2510 sorry just not true. Jews were forced out of Israel by the Romans and mostly kept out by future invading Arab conquerors.
100%
I guess for me (neither Palestinian nor Israeli) it doesn't really change my position much (I tend towards Palestine).
I am German. I am indigenous to Germany or Austria. African-Americans are clearly indigenous to Africa. Indo-Trinidadians are indigenous to India.
Does being indigenous entitle the African American to land in Ghana/Nigeria/Namibia/Cameroon? Does it entitle an Indo-Trinidadian to a home in Delhi/Bombay/Pune/Hyderabaad? Does the entitlement of the German extend to only Germany or also to Austria? My ancestors lived in the Pannonian Basin during the Austro-Hungarian empire, and like the Jews, we were also expelled. Do I have rights to the people who now live in these villages and on this land in Hungary? In Croatia? And that expulsion happened only 80 years ago.
On a certain level, I can understand the want to return to "the homeland" and reclaim and rebuild a kind of identity. I've been back to that village and seen the withered gravestones and the abandoned houses of my ancestors. It's sobering and thought provoking, to say the least. But I don't think I enjoy a right to take back the land with no regard to the people who have been living on it for the last 80 years (let alone if they had lived on that land for 2000 years).
I think in case of the Jews the prevailing problem was that unlike Germans, they have nowhere to go. Europe didn't want them and very clearly showed that in a very brutal fashion. Russia set a side a plot of very inhospitable land for the Jews, but even there they would be a subject to repressions. Some Zionists were thinking about South America, but there are very few unsettled places, and also not many would want to immigrate to some random place far fat away. So Jews naturally went to a place they were the most connected to... and even tried to settle it peacefully, but xenophobia of the native inhabitants (and settler's own arrogance at times) spiraled into what we have now.
Well you have the luxury of belonging to a state, Jews didn't have that luxury for over 2 millennia
Israelis had the luxury of the U.K., the chief offender of all colonialism, come in with the U.N. and U.S. and create a state of Israel out of land that had been OCCUPIED by its inhabitants for 3,000 years! The gall of Israelis is astounding. They are still pushing Palestinians out of the West Bank. They need to pull back from the West Bank and Gaza after Hamas is defeated, a Palestinian state must be created and Israel's army must stay out of it. They definitely have the means and military might to secure their own borders and the same cannot be said of the Palestinians.@@chanelone123
@@chanelone123 So if Hitler had be stateless, then the Holocaust would have been fine?
@@chanelone123 well they do, like any Muslim or Christian in any state, they don’t identify with their religion as a race lol
I like it when Corey interviews older men and women. You get a better insight into the minds, what the younger people have imbibed, and how they are trying to match it up with more modern political thought.
They seem honest and surprisingly less angry than the Jews in their answers. Nice people ❤️
You should take a look at the other Corey’s videos. It is usually the opposite.
@@jackkazhdan9115 or maybe you're just biased
The real question is if there was proof that Israelis were indigenous and shared brotherly blood would it change your attitude to live in peace
11:17 wasn't a "different question", it was a direct response. He was saying that even if they are indigenous (historically), they can't come back in that way.
Those kids are changing their speech on every single question.
Ironically Palestinians want a law of return.
@@elachechino "Palestinians want a law of return." And they don't see the irony in that!!! Hahahahaha. Hypocrites all of them.
Sorry dude, I am from Irish/ Native American decent and I don't have the right to invade Ireland and take back my land.
Ireland is occupied by the Irish. There is already an Irish/Celtic homeland in Ireland and has been forever. You don't need to 'take [it] back" because it already belongs to your people.
Hilarious that you need that explained
Noah Beadle It should be that way but perhaps you've been living under a rock the last ten years and do not understand that Communistic Multiculturalists have taken over most of European Government and have created and normalized the influx of Non-Europeans of African and Arab decent through a so-called _Migrant Crisis _. A crisis through which the ancestral populations of Ireland, Germany, France, Italy, etc are being diluted with people who are not called foreigners by Irishman, Germans, Italians, French amd Englishman, for fear of being labelled Racist and changed with Hate Speech/Crimes?
No Irish person, Italian person, French person, German person of that DNA, living outside of those countries has a right to "return to their land" under current Marxist rulers. No.... the current rulers are working to dilute ALL of these people groups numbers and stock by importing _migrants_ and _refugees_.
Too bad Europeans who want to keep their culture and territories are not able to do what the Jews have been able to do for themselves: fight for a territory and a homeland without shame or fear of ridicule.
I'm not even saying I believe Jews have a right to Israel, _but they sure are making it happen!_
Ah, you are in America! But nobody is kicking you out of America, right? No one is attacking your home, burning it, declaring you non native population and telling you to go back to Ireland. Jews were told to get out and go back home.
Historically speaking, Jews have their roots in Palestine/Israel or whatever its name, but this doesn't give someone the power to force other to leave their villages or houses, doesn't give the right to build a wall between you and others.
If you're originally from somewhere, that doesn't mean you own this place and you have to monopolizes.
Jewish people were living in all around the world and they haven't all forced to leave their lands.
I believe that no one owns the land, everyone deserves to live where he decides to, the fact is that "Israel forced itself and established a state based on some religious beliefs.
Omar, sorry to tell you, dude, but seems like you need a little bit of education in your life. Otherwise, you really show up as an ignorant person. Your statement: "Jewish people were living in all around the world and they haven't all forced to leave their lands". Do you know, for example, what happened to Jews in Spain? Just for your note this is one example you can read about. Second, do you have any idea why wall was built? Maybe because of 'peace loving' Palestinians have all rights to blow up themselves in Jerusalem and Tel-Aviv. By the way, they don't much different from arabs in some other countries who blow up themselves almost on a daily basis (e.g. Iraq, Syria, etc).. And, yes, Jews deserve to have a small country that their ancestors lived there for thousand of years as an ethnic majority. Look around Israel for vast territories that Arabs live and countries they have. Some of these countries didn't even exist a hundred years ago (e.g. Iraq) and look at small country where every stone tells you the story of Jewish presence, Jewish culture and traditions for thousands of years. Bottom line, start educating yourself about history of Israel and then we can talk.
Boris, we all need to be educated even you, i don''t mind that and i don't find that a shame :D
Calling me an ignorant won't make you more educated.
Secondly, what i exactly have said that "not (all)" Jewish" can you even notice the difference? the point was that, some Jews were safe and they decided to leave their countries which they have lived in for hundreds of years.
I don't deny that Jews were killed, tortured and forced to leave their lands in Europe, but is that reasonable enough to do the same with Palestinians؟
what was so hard to understand in what i fucking said? i said everybody has the right to live where he wants, but not by taking others' places and rights.
Omar, I apologize for calling you ignorant. Let us just agree that we disagree, except that 'we all need to be educated'.
Now, I would be happy to be educated by you, when you can provide me support (not from extremist websites) for your statement that Palestinians received similar treatment as Jews in Europe. Basically, you're saying that Jews killed, tortured and forced Palestinians to leave in 1948. Could you provide historical examples of tortures of Palestinians by the Jews. As far as i know the opposite was happening in late 19th and beginning of 20th centuries - pogroms and killing of Jews by Palestinians. I'm talking about Jews who were long before 1948 in what was called Palestine under Ottoman Empire. Forced to leave? If you are from the Palestinian descent, please ask your parents and grandparents if Jews came to their village in 1948 and demanded from them to leave to surrounding Arab countries. I'm sure some incidents like these indeed happened, but most Palestinians left because Arab propaganda promised to Palestinians a quick solution to creation of state of Israel by the UN.
Israel unlike as it usually done in Arab countries, does not fabricate history. Deir Yassin did happen. 107 Palestinians got killed. Haganah condemned killings. If you ask Israelis today, if they condemn what happened in Deir Yassin, most of them would say they're. On the other hand, on a scale of what was going on at that time, you cannot reasonably argue that Jews wanted ethnically cleanse Palestinian population. Would you think that if state of Israel really wanted to remove 6M Palestinians from their land, they could easily done this long time ago? As much as Israel needs US as its Allie in the ME, there could be a situation where right wing party could say enough is enough and move Palestinians out. Do you think that what happened in Deir Yassin can be remotely close to what Arabs do (be that Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Lebanon, etc) in their lands for the past 100 years including today? We're talking about millions of of their own killed (women, children, elderly). One wrong doesn't justify other wrongs, but Israel as a country has much higher morals than its neighbors. Would you agree at least with this statement?
laila, it is really sad that your 'education' is no better from people interviewed in Corey's video. To summarize, you could not answer any of my questions. When I asked you to provide examples of 'thousands massacres' by Zionist gangs in 1948 in Israel, you jumped from 1948 to 1982 in Lebanon. When I pointed out that actual killings were done by Christian Arabs to their fellow Muslim citizens of Lebanon, you had nothing to say besides calling Ariel Sharon a dog. Let's stop our discussion right there. Continue singing to the tune of al-Yahoood klayaabna uaal faleesteen blyaadnaa if you feel better this way
The English began doing it to the Irish 800 years ago, we didn't like it then, we don't like it now. What happened throughout these 8 centuries? Well, as you can guess, rebellions, war, insurgency and violence in a bid to rid their foreign colonial oppressor from the land... Sound familiar? And our genetics are much closer than Israelis and Palestinians, still ain't happy about it.
I got my 'Ancestry DNA' results almost a year ago. I'm 22% Scandinavian, 30% European, North African, Central Asian, South Asian and Southern Pacific. Most of the world is my home then.
Asif Khan You belong nowhere
Damn straight🖤
Imagine if you can go and claim it back! 😉🤡
That is literally what Arab means, "of mixed heritage"
Lolllll
All of these Palestinians, more so than others in the videos, that definitely look like the typical Semitic ancient Jew you'd probably find walking around Bethlehem/Nazareth etc, they clearly share DNA with modern Jews now but again, mixed ancestry over the thousands of years determines how much so. In essence, the people videotaped, with exception of the hijabi girl, all look like they could be jewish Israelis, or Muslims, Christians - what ever, they all look like cousins
Not so many look like Ethiopian or Indian Jews. If there are some they are hiding in the shadows.
Vast majority of Arab Palestinians are actually descendants of Arabs from the rest of the Arab world, mainly Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia. It is a historical fact that more than half a million Arabs migrated to that land for the sole purpose of work during the British Mandate of Palestine which in total had less than 800,000 Arabs at that time! Now they are more than 4 Millions and they claim they are the original indigenous people of that land. Absolutely ridiculous!
@@GPBKM the guy literally just said that DNA evidence proves the jews are from that land BECAUSE it is similar to Palesitinian DNA. So what point are you trying to make? If the scientific evidence used to prove jews are from Israel is relying on the fact that Palestinians are originally from Palestine. Then, if what you're saying is true there is no such thing as Israeli jews and all jews would have Arab ancestry from Saudi Arabia.
The Palestinians are actually the descendants of the people who lived in that region of the levant before islam. When the arabs conquered the region the people who already lived there for countless generations began converting to islam and learned arabic. Eventually arabic replaced their native languages a process know as "arabization". The Palestinians are not the original arabs from Saudi Arabia and the original arabs never they never moved to palestine in numbers as large as what your talking saying. and yeah there were 800,000 Palestinians under the British mandate in the 1940s and now theirs 4 million people. Thats literally how population growth works, in the 1950s global population was 2.5 billion in the year 2020 it's 8 billion.
@@leenahussein778 , Even Palestinian leaders admit in their own medias in Arabic that they are mostly just foreign immigrants to that land, mainly from Egypt and Saudi Arabia, as can be seen in this video: czcams.com/video/XwBSWN4s9JU/video.html . So why would you insist on repeating the same lies and twisted historical facts that were invented by the Palestinian propaganda machine against Israel??? There's absolutely no scientific or historical proof for your claims that the majority of Palestinians are natives there or descendants of the ancient locals there! In fact, historical documents clearly show that the Arab population during the Ottoman Empire was less than 200,000, but by the end of the British Empire that number went up to 800,000 due to aggressive Arab migration to that land in search for work! This can also be proved by looking at their family names today, as their family names shows exactly where their origin is from, for example the al-Masri family which means "Egyptian", or the infamous Tamimi family originally from the Banu Tamim tribe in Arabian Peninsula, and so on and on... These are facts you so conveniently ignore!
@@GPBKM historical documents clearly show the population was almost 300 million actually jumping to more than 500 by the end of the 1800s. At the start of the British mandate, the population was around 750 million. Idk why you think peddling weird lies works in your favour
For the guy in the pink sweater, you could almost see the wheels spinning in his head. Even as he was arguing he was starting to have his doubts.
Exactly! All of them actually. "Science? We don't believe in no scientific proof".
That's what happen if you want to try to speak in english but your english is still suck
I read about population genetics for fun other wise I never would have believed someone saying "because science" I think it would have more of an impact if you actually explained how population genetics work, and show an image of a haplogroup so they can understand how they are related to the Jews and how the Jews to levant.
Lildizzle420 Agree. even the topic is not clear among scientist and not yet a fact since in jewdisim you can only be a jew from your maternal side which has two xx ano no y while in bioligy you can only know your ancestors from your father side the xy.
Judaism being passed down maternally is religious law, not genetic. Genetics shows that most modern Jewish populations were descended from Judean men who married converted women in the diaspora. Once the woman converts, she's religiously a Jew and thus her child is religiously Jewish. Since the father of most of these children was Jewish, the children (who became today's Jews) were Jewish both religiously and genetically.
why, because reason?
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@@MrAlio84 They can both be traced from the male and female. There is mitochondrial DNA test for the female line and the Y chromosome for the male line.
Jews are smarter to trace lineage thru maternal line. Without using modern DNA test, you cannot be sure of genetic lineage through the father. But the mother is a sure indication that the children are of the same lineage. That is why some culture, like the Jews, trace lineage and inheritance through the mother and that is the same reason why adultery is such a big crime in patrelineal societies.
I literally studied this for my whole degree and got so frustrated that people feel that they are entitled to live somewhere just because their great great great x2000 grandparent lived there once. One of my ancient relatives lived in fucking Monaco where's my super-yaught bitches
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I am disappointed in the way you asked these questions.
The Torah say that God sent the jews away around the world. The very same book say, they will be back, their own homeland..!
The answers are right. I'm an American citizen of Chinese ancestry. But does that mean there is a plot of land sitting somewhere with my name on it just on account of my race? Maybe they could vacate some African or Indian immigrant? I would like to think so, but nobody truly believes that. If we go back far enough, there are other people who occupied that land before the ethnically Han Chinese did. We could use some Mandate of Heaven superstition to anchor land to a group of people, but we know that there are always occupiers of a territory before and after every nation-state, and people's DNA change over time. The Chinese today are a mix of all the occupiers throughout history, including Genghis Khan, etc., and not identical to the original.
The background for question is that Arabs denounce any connection of Jews to Jewdea, religious, cultural, historical and genetic.
Nothing to do with anything you have said.
@@ef2718 And what is the relation of that to the present situation? Everything I just said!
I love how he spent so much time on the two boys who hadn’t a word of English also where his translator should have helped didn’t just to force prove his point to the viewers.
Loved the guy at the end who said “ welcome, welcome”. How nice.
God didn't send a message ....it was the Romans and then the Ottoman that expelled the Jews.
In fact then you could say that it was God who kept his promise and sent the Jews back to their land.
Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.
Acts 7:43
Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
the pedestal of your idols,
the star of your god
which you made for yourselves.
Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.
Amos 5:25-27
It was prophesied and it happened. When God talks about Zion in the Old Testament he’s talking about Christians who were once Jews that he is going to arrange a place in heaven for them. Not a physical Israel, not a physical Jerusalem but a heavenly one. (Revelation 21 and romans 9:6) makes this very clear. God doesn’t care about any land on this earth. He wants everyone to be saved before they die. That’s the goal. So you Christian zionists are going to hell because you are more concerned about ushering in the anti christ, the end times then fulfil your duty as a follower of Christ, that is to bring lost souls to Christ.
@@cooliD97 ottomans expelled the Jews , like all of them ? really , who taught you that ?
I think it's hilarious because they look alot like they are part Jewish and vice versa
There is no such thing as a Jewish look . Jews originated from different parts of the world so they look different
@@laithnk well, I would like to say that... but this is not true.
There is a jewish look.
You can look at ashkenazis, mizrahins, sephardim.... they look very levantine/greek. And palestinians and lebanese people looks like israelis...
Well, obviously we will have very different people, but most of the time they look arab.
@@laithnk Actually there is a look just like there's Arabic people all over the world, there's always something that distinguishes them
I'm a British Anglo Saxon. Does that mean I can go to Germany and take someones house?
Andy Tomlins
Your ancestors sure did to the gailic people of britian.
Andy Tomlins
And BTW, were your ancestors kicked out of northern germany?, or they LEFT and conquered the biritsh isles?
That is the difference here, jews tried to come back to israel when they were kicked out, unlike many people who migrated our of their own desire.
Why do you need to take someones the house in order for you to live there? you can build a house of your own and still be in Germany
And that's exactly you cannot make such statements. 1'st remember the era when you colonised so many countries and stole tons of money and goods. 2'nd - Britain is the first country who called for independence in Israel. 3rd - how are modern countries made ? By going into other ones and fight to gain territories. This is the case with Israel , we went there we fought for these lands and we kept it. To answer your question - Yes you can , go in Germany and take someones house - it's up to you to manage and keep it.
@@richardfazliu5260 Or just build a new house or take a new house that didnt have residents before
I am a middle eastern Jew, I look more Arab than most of these guys.
My Grandmas' father was born in BetLehem.
They say Jews came from around the world while they themselves came from different tribes from all over the Middle East and North Africa.
noo they lived here 5000 yeras :D
marokaisrael No they didn't... Period.
Their family names tell otherwise
wow you took it seriously
hahahaha
marokaisrael Sorry, didn't notice the sarcasm...
smootskin these Jewish people aren’t the genetic Hebrews at all!! They’re converts to a bloodlines culture.
the 5th guy with the blue eyes was the most logical out them all, saying that both israelis and palestinians are mixed people, who are diversed and looking different than one another in their own societies and none of them is a 100 % native to a place, unlike chinese people or some african tribe. both israelis and palestinians are people with all types of bloods mixed in them.
No true most jews married jews. My blood is 95% jewish
@@timorcohen4641 so how the heck about the rest 5%?
@@timorcohen4641 🤣🤣 95% jew
Man i think you mean 5% jew
@@timorcohen4641you are a 100% tuna fish 🐟
Not all Israeli's/ Jews are from Europe! (As are palestinians!) There are actually Jewish people who are Native to Israel, not just Palestinians. Just like you can be of palestinian/arab heritage and not be from Israel. My Great Grandfather who is Jewish and was a Native to Israel passed this information down to my family. He was around during the creation of the State of Israel and back then Jews, Muslims, Arabs, Christians, Bahai's lived together. For the Genetic part, Jewish people are related to arabs its science, they come from the same area, The Middle East. It is as simple as that. As for the History part of Israel, you cannot pick and choose what parts of History you like and don't like.
if you went back 100 years only about 5% of the population of Palestine was Jewish so there is historical context
Lildizzle420 30%*
"according to Alexander Scholch, Palestine in 1850 had about 350,000 inhabitants, 30% of whom lived in 13 towns; roughly 85% were Muslims, 11% were Christians and 4% Jews.[27]
The Ottoman census of 1878 indicated the following demographics for the three districts that best approximated what later became Mandatory Palestine; that is, the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, the Nablus Sanjak, and the Acre Sanjak.[26] In addition, some scholars estimate approximately 5,000-10,000 additional foreign-born Jews at this time:[28]
Jewish viritual library says in 1918 the population was 8%
Dardahan
No it was 5% .. and jumped to 35% in a few years of illegal immigration back in the 1930s.
"In 1920, the British Government's Interim Report on the Civil Administration of Palestine stated that there were hardly 700,000 people living in Palestine:
There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ. Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or-a small number-are Protestants. The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives"
"My roots from Yemen but there is no way I'm going back there and steal there land saying its main because of "science
You don't need to steel anything, the country already exist.
A Palestinian country never existed, the region was free, no reason not to claim it
@@RobPires
It's not a trick. That's a fact, Habibi. :)
@@RobPires
If it's proven to be true then it's a fact, but unfortunately many choose to ignore this fact for they're own political agenda.
@@RobPires
Maybe you have a different perspective but let me just say, your "perspective" isn't logical. And do you even know what "Steal" means?
@@RobPires
Okay. It is our land, always was and always will be. And yes, this land is mentioned in our books but it also still has a place in every Jewish heart. When we were expelled by the Romans, we kept a promise. "If I forget Jerusalem, may my hand lose it's ability, may my tongue stick to the roof of my mouth, may my knowledge drift away"
No matter where we are, Israel is our home. You can take the Jew out of Judea but you can't take Judea out of the Jew. And we're not European, as I said before, We. Are. Jews! And btw most of the Israeli population is Mizrahi. Seriously bro, do your research.
Stay safe Corey. Please churn out more videos before utube and paypal shut you down.
Omg coreyyy can you make a video of all the hawt guys you interviewed
It might have made your case a little stronger if you'd been able to name the study and describe the details more precisely
I don't know. I mean it's said that Abraham or someone led the Jews to Canaan, to Israel from Kuwait or Iraq or someplace by the gulf, right? And they are a Semitic people, so before that, the Jews were a tribe living with all the other Semites, and Semites are part of the Afro-Asiatic family, so before that Jews were in Ethiopia or somewhere, who knows. I absolutely think Jews have a right to "return" to Israel but it all depends on how you define indigenous. The Native Americans came from Siberia originally, and before that it's thought they were from Central Asia. There's even skull types and I believe genetics in Native Americans, suggesting that before them there were Australoid- type people living in the Americas. We say, for instance, Lithuanians are indigenous to Lithuania, but Lithuanians are an Indo-European people, their culture and language and some of their genetics come from probably the Kuban region. If you go back far enough you can always find a previous people or somewhere else the indigenes came from. The world is constantly changing and always has been, things aren't static like how nationalists like to think or claim they are. Israelis have a lot of DNA from Israel but I think they also have a lot of DNA from the Arab countries and from Europe and from wherever, just like the Palestians have Arab and Jewish and whatever else DNA. And of course it varies by person and by family. The Nablus guy had it right. Nationalists think of people based on language, and culture, and always equate that with race/genetics, which isn't true. Every culture has people of different races and different strains and whatever. The Palestinians and the Jews are close in DNA, but that doesn't mean anything for peace. The heart of the conflict is not race but different culture, different identities, and different claims to the same land.
I'm from north africa and i did dna test and i found out i'm more than 50% italian...i will go there and still someone's house
You could try but the people in Italy aren't weak like the Palestinians
It doesn't anything to do with this conflict.
There was no Arab country or any other country for that matter on this land and Jews were already living here long before the Muslims occupied this area.
If so, this land is the perfect one to create a country for the Jews and one for the Arabs if they really want one.
The problem is that the Arabs didn't agree the Jews to have a country, so they opened a war.
Were it for not for the Arabs attacking the Jews, the Arabs who stayed under the Jewish flag would keep their lands and homes....
But they made a mistake and paid for it big time.
Learn the real history, not the one the leftists and Jihadists tell you
That study sounds fishy as hell cuz being Jewish means either adhering to Judaism or at least growing up in that culture
No it actually factually doesn't. A person who starts practising Jewish would not be recognised automatically as Jewish while a person who is an atheist born to a Jewish mother would be 100 percent recognised as Jewish as per Jewish law. Being Jewish as a definition is simply something that is rendered by having a Jewish mother (or conversion).
No it's always existed. It is nothing new. A person can't just claim to be Jewish it's based on your background. There is of course the ability to convert but that hasn't happened much given that Judaism doesn't promote missionary activity.
But that still doesn't make sense because if a women converted to Judaism her genetics doesn't just magically become semitic in order to make her children jewish.
And also I'm originally from Palestine so lets say my ancestry was jewish but they converted to Islam after the arabs invaded so technically I have this so called "genetic link" to the land but I'm not allowed to go on it because I identify as something else. But if someone identifies as jewish whether he has that genetics or not can have a claim to the land. This doesn't make any sense cuz if being jewish means having a genetic connection with each other I have just as much claim to the land as someone who identifies as jewish. Being Jewish can be cultural but don't make the claim that its a race and justifying it for having a right to the land.
I completely agree that Judaism is much more tribal than Islam or Christianity. And I'm not even denying that there was once a Jewish race (Isrealites) in the distant past who lived in the levant region but now their genetics are so diluted cuz of the diaspora that the only thing that connects each jew, whether arab or european, is the religion/culture of Judaism. If Jews are genetically linked then I would be objectively considered Jewish but you probably wouldn't say that because I identify as a Palestinian.
Even linguistically it doesn't make sense to say Jews are a race. If I say "Muslim Jew" or "Christian Jew" it would be an oxymoron cuz they are competing ideologies. If one says I'm an "arab jew" or "european jew" it makes sense because ideologies can be compatible with a race.
PLUS I don't think you addressed any of my points in my last reply and just spouted out talking points that didn't involve anything I said.
@@gotarabmoney6665 Halakha law is if a Mother is a Jew so is the Children but it wasn't always like this.
You get you tribal lineage from you father this is the reason of caste in jews (Kohen , Levi , Yisrael) Kohanim are descendants of Aaron who perform temple rituals back in the old days and assisted by the Levi.
There are several restrictions for kohen since they perform sacred rituals like Temple offering , Bracha or blessing the jewish people , Torah reading etc.
I find that most of the non-Israelis are willing to be more honest and try to answer the questions as best as they can. I'm glad you have a female interpreter, way to go!
I live in the north-east zone of Mexico, my family have several generations here, our background is spanish and italian. Can I go to Spain and Italy to expel people living there for many years claiming the "land of my ancestors"?... yes, it sounds ridiculous... ever if there were "scientific proof" people to claim Israel as "our land" mainly came from other places living many years there to expel people living in Palestine for many years (the religious argument "God gave us this land" is not valid, even less if Israel claims to be a modern society, it means with secular values)... that is the root of the conflict, because its'n matter of history or religion, it's a hidden geopolitical issue...
That means palestinians have jewish heritage, their ancestor was the jews that was forced to convert to Islam?
There are very large numbers of indigenous Europeans living in America, does that give them the right to return to Europe and claim citizenship?
In many cases, yes. An Italian grandparent, for example, can get you Italian citizenship.
Yes, just as there is many armeanians throughout the world and they can claim citizenship in Armenia.
You will never win an argument with a Zionist. They have their own unique logics
8:00 - this guy is smart.
no man , us jews came from europe kazakhstan , we are not indigenous and we are not hebrews
the real hebrews were just a group of egyptians , of the black cushite race who left egypt during war , those same egyptian
didnt believe in the egyptian gods and moved to israel and made it their home , the egyptian made hebrews their slaves cause
they didnt believe in egyptian gods , hebrews and egyptian share the same blood
ALEJANDRO ANGEL, go read some REAL books.
Maybe your ancestors converted, but for the majority of us, our ancestors came from the Levant - as evidenced by genetic testing.
The ancient Hebrews looked like how Samaritans appear today (which is also how the ancient Egyptians depicted them, as well as how the Mishnah describes them). Some DNA samples were taken from Natufians in Israel and Jordan (dated around 9000 years ago) and they were found to have fair skin, dark hair and dark eyes.
and then the donny made joseph and the technicolour dreamcoat!!!
5:00 - I had an ex who smiled all the time like that, especially when she was angry. Scary shit.
Great one
Corey you do good work I just wish you would be as thorough with the Israeli's you interview. I'm watching the video you made for this same question asked to Israeli's and you don't mention genetic proof or anything. Granted that one was made in 2012 but still. We're all biased to some degree but with you I can feel its significant enough that it makes me hesitant to support you on Patreon.
Obviously, it's going to be hard for people to answer this question apolitically when the topic is so heavily politicized.
That's some serious mental gymnastics. I half expected them to say "But we're 96% identical to frogs." as a response or something.
The Saudi may have a genetic relationship with an Iraqi and Jordanian, but his ancestors never been in either the tow country. The question is like someone who enters the house of his two hundred blood line cousins and tells him that he have the right to live and expel him genetically
He never said anything about expelling anybody. The ones who forced the actual situation and wanted to expel the others were the Arab leaders who wanted to push the jews out of the land "from the river to the see". Just read the constitution of Israel and you will see that the Arab population were included in it.
@@joojlee By rejecting a deal that says two third of the land goes to the jews while the jews were about third of the population? That's still called forcibly taking land.
@@abdallaosama574 it wasn't two thirds, it was half and half and most of jewish state was going to be a desert. And that's still a desert today, because it's a rough environment. Jews are a native people from that land and were persecuted in every single country that they were after the destruction of Judea. When the partition plan was created, there were millions of refugee jews in europe that survived from the holocaust and just wanted to go to israel, also jews were ethnically cleansed from every single arab country, so they also had no other place to go than israel. So the UN took that also into account while planning the partition. for the arabs it was a good partition, for the jews it wasn't, but they were desperate for a solution for their brothers around the world.
@@joojlee Nope, it was 54 or 55 to be exact to the jews and the rest to arabs, and like I said the jews were one third of the population, don't really know why you're twisting it like that when it's obviously unfair. Don't play the history card with me, no history can justify what they did. Before the holocaust and before anything they wanted to go and live in palestine, lets not pretend it's not in their religion and that it's something they religiously want instead of masking it through running from prosecutions, empty lands are all over the world and any great country like Britain or any other could've even made space in their own country instead of intruding into others. There's nothing called "they had no other place to go than Israel", that's a really manipulative take.
@@abdallaosama574 You started saying 2 thirds... did you invent that number or where did you hear that from? I'm sorry that there is so much disinformation from the people that tries to simplify this conflict and make it like the good guy vs bad guy story. If it was so simple this would have been solved in 1948. Now please take a look at the map. look at what jews were getting, from half to the bottom is a desert. Also palestine included jordan, look for the map of palestine of 1920. So you can say that jews were getting 12.5% and arabs 87.5% of Palestine.
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It's unfortunate that we can't see his face clearly because of the shadow. He looks really cute and handsome. 😍
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Remember when aramaic was the common language of the middle east until the rise of islam decreased it.
Aramaic was all but dead when the rise of Islam happened, Rome and Persia so to that for hundreds of years, often intentionally by replacing it with Persian and Latin, and unintentionally by their wars that plunged the middle east in chaos and cultural relapse
@@anon-iraq2655 aramaic is still spoken today. you should know since you appear to be from iraq, where most of aramaic speakers existed before ISIS invasions.
@@PK-fg7ns if you want to consider neo-Aramaic as Aramaic, sure it's still spoken
i personally don't, too much non semitic admixture
@@anon-iraq2655 hahhaha i don't speak it either but most of the people in my community do.
You misrepresented what the scientist is saying. Anyway, my answer to your question is the following. The Jews of Iraq, Yemen, Morroco or any other country from North Africa or the Middle East are indigenous to our region. They are Middle Eastern and they belong to us. The ones who came from Russia or Europe are genetically closer to the people of Russia and Europe. And these are the ones who formed the notion of Zionism as part of imperial ideas prevalent in the 20th century.
If some people wanted to immigrate to the land of Palestine/Israel that could be acceptable. But to come and kick the people who were living there, that’s genocide. And here is the answer to your question, those who belong to our region are welcomed to Palestine provided they come in peace and not as occupiers.
Actually genetic studies show jews originated un italy www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/10/did-modern-jews-originate-italy. Your motherland is italy ( i am italian )
Arabs started with the existence of Ismail the son of Ibrahim
Everyone here has it wrong.....the J-ws are not indigenous to Palestine nor are we Canaanites - We are indigenous to Northern Iraq which is where Abraham came from - dont believe me? read this ....... " Iraqi mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroup distribution is similar to that of Iran, Turkey, Georgia, and Armenia, " ........ that is the genetic makeup of Iraqis,.....compare that to the exact same results for J-ws (which Eran El haik hilariously attributed to being "khazar")
Michael Cohen we the jews are the originsle cnnsnites.
and its isn't duch thing as nation that called palestine.
well according to muslims, Ibrahim alayhis salam was Chaldean from Iraq, not to sure from the north though. one could argue Arabs are also indigenous to Iraq if we're going that far back.
I'm form Iraq and Ur is in the south of Iraq, you can Google it.
Beside some historians believe that Abraham was from Ura and not Ur, which another city in the middle of modern day Iraq "North of Mesopotamia" and not North of Iraq.
I believe the DNA of most Iraqi people is a mix of Arabs, *kurds/ Persians, Assyrians, and maybe even *Babylonians and Sumerians!
* i said Kurds/Persians because i believe that they both belong to the same bloodline.
* Because the people of Babylon and Sumer can't just vanish in the air!
I think they just rolled with the punches!, when Persia ruled they wear forced to turn Persians and then when the Arabs ruled they wear forced again to turn Arabs.
I have no scientific proof, I think it's just common sense!
There were Arabs in Palestine 1000 years before Islam. They were called nabateans, ghassanids, and other Bedouin tribes
Mostly East of the Jordan River.
Muhammad Taha
We're they terrorists then too?
They were Bedouins passing through the land that was already a Jewish kingdom. Arabs are not natives to Israel but to Arabia.
When i see the faces of Palestinians I see natives to the area.. But am puzzled when I see Israelis. They come in all colors and races yet they claim to be from the East Mediterranean,
Abu Canaan
actually in the British mandate there were less than 300,000 Arabs in the area before the great Arab immegretion in 1800 that came after the jews immegretion looking for a job in the jews new settlements.
so.... only 300,000 originally from there than why palastains claim to be 13,000,000 today? 🤔
I find it interesting that the Jews left Israel, centuries ago as brown people and they returned as white folks
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Who said they were all brown?
And I am a "Brown" Jew by the way.
Corey tried his best to find the most white and pale Palestinians to ask this question to. Corey why can't you just be honest interviewer?
He specifically stated he was doing that
Guess Im 50% Adam 50% Eve now
Sick of the mantra "We were here first" Muslims arrived here on 650 AD. (1500 YEARS AGO). We Jews arrived here 3400 years ago and were exiled, but some never left
When a ‘view’ decides ‘facts’. Thought it should be in reverse usually for sentient creatures to reach a conclusion.
Going to guys and telling them ''Sciene says this or that'' while the proof wasn't even explained properly...
and dna for determining where exactly in the world one's ancestors are from isnt accurate enough tot say that yet. they can only say which continents with near certainty. NEAR certainty.
czcams.com/video/Isa5c1p6aC0/video.html
All people of the world are connected,...we are all fingers on the same hand!!
that is like saying: "my genetics is quarter German, quarter African, quarter, Asian, quarter Indian", I buy land and build a state in Egypt and the Egypts in this area are living under my rule. If they share genetic inheritage, why don't live peaceful together, this is the use of politic and religion to divide ethnicities
Isn't it odd that Palestinians consider All Jews to be 'foreigners' from Europe but can't acknowledge that they themselves are a combination of different Arabian and African ancestors...and Jewish ancestors.
blue eyed dude had a good perspective
can't this conflict just end?
The doctor said the Europeans may have a common ancestor, he again failed to emphasize that arabs also share this ancestry not only that but and on average a Palestinian will probably be closer related to them than the white folks from Europe anyway.
Could you do some interviews with some Ethiopian Jews? Or Palestinian Christians?
That one with the blue eyes made the most sense.
there's Lebanese and Iraqis with blue eyes too. it goes back to the crusades
The first one looks very arabic. Verrrryyy arabic. Blonde, with pretty white skin - very arabic guy.
kiril1 Again you do know that most europeans have middle eastern ancestry and that white skin and colored eyes aren't just exclusive to europeans and definetly didn't come from europe
more native than any polish or Russian jew lot of Palestinians that did the dna test scored 70 to 80 % middle eastern and they look close to him the problem is how many middle eastern you land stealing Zionists have
Kiril yep Crusaders descendant.
Forget politics, forget the Torah, forget the Quran, DNA doesnt lie.
Genetic studies are "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".
The two most respected scientists in the field are:
Behar DM, et al (July 2010). "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people". Nature. 466 (7303): 238-42.
www.nature.com/articles/nature09103
Work by Ostrer H, Skorecki K (February 2013). "The population genetics of the Jewish people". Human Genetics. 132 (2): 119-27 also back up Behar's work.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/
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In August 2012, Dr. Harry Ostrer in his book Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People, summarized his and other work in genetics of the last 20 years, and concluded that all major Jewish groups share a common Middle Eastern origin.
Harry, Ostrer (2012). Legacy a Genetic History of the Jewish People. Oxford University Press
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Citing autosomal DNA studies, Nicholas Wade estimates that "Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews have roughly 30 percent European ancestry, with most of the rest from the Middle East." He further noticed that "The two communities seem very similar to each other genetically, which is unexpected because they have been separated for so long." Concerning this relationship he points to Atzmon's conclusions that "the shared genetic elements suggest that members of any Jewish community are related to one another as closely as are fourth or fifth cousins in a large population, which is about 10 times higher than the relationship between two people chosen at random off the streets of New York City
Wade, Nicholas (2010-06-09). "Studies Show Jews' Genetic Similarity". The New York Times.
www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html
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The genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant amounts of shared Middle Eastern ancestry.
Sources:
Blazer, Dan G.; Hernandez, Lyla M., eds. (2006). "The Importance of Ancestral Origin". Genes, Behavior, and the Social Environment: Moving Beyond the Nature/Nurture Debate. p. 100.
books.google.com.bo/books?id=gFtYAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA100&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
Katsnelson, Alla (3 June 2010). "Jews worldwide share genetic ties". Nature.
Frudakis, Tony (2010). "Ashkenazi Jews". Molecular Photofitting: Predicting Ancestry and Phenotype Using DNA. Elsevier. p. 383
books.google.com.bo/books?id=9vXeydpj7VkC&pg=PA383&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Mario Canaan In a study of Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslim Arabs, more than 70% of the Jewish men and 82% of the Arab men whose DNA was studied, had inherited their Y chromosomes from the same paternal ancestors, who lived in the region within the last few thousand years. "Our recent study of high-resolution microsatellite haplotypes demonstrated that a substantial portion of Y chromosomes of Jews (70%) and of Palestinian Muslim Arabs (82%) belonged to the same chromosome pool."
Source:
Nebel A, Filon D, Weiss DA, Weale M, Faerman M, Oppenheim A, Thomas MG (December 2000). "High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews". Human Genetics. 107 (6): 630-41.
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s004390000426
@@Geronimo7-7-7 Thanks for that data and links. So it's just one big family feud .
@@Odo55 Sadly, a percentage of the Palestinians are descended from the Ancient Israelites but have lost all vestiges of that origin. As this documentary shows:
czcams.com/video/t3q6OKG4zAE/video.html
Generally speaking the two sides dont see each other as family. Just bitter enemies vying for the same land
Hopefully that will change and it can be shared. Hopefully.....
Anyone got a link to the scientific research he mentions??
Google it. There is a lot of researches about that
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I am Palestinian and of course they are related! They are bloody brothers, a guy named Ibrahim gave birth to two sons Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael went on to create the Arab "ethnicity" and and Isaac went on to be the first "Jew" (ethnicity not religion). These two BROTHERS had two different ethnicities like us (Palestinians and Israelis) We are related by blood but separated by the language we speak.
Abraham did have two children, but they were from two different mothers. Ishmael, he had with Hagar, the slave-woman, because Sarah, Abraham's wife, was barren. After God blessed Sarah with a fruitful womb, they had Isaac, who then had two sons - Esau, and Jacob (blessed by God with the name, Israel).
Paul Pogba then why not form one country, Israel? Or took the two state solution all the chances it was presented? Your brothers and you suffer... for what? Borders no one can even see from space
The Palestinians DNA is mostly from Saudia so no we are not related
So cringeworthy. Not just the amount of nonsense many of these Palestinians believe, but also the fact that you (Corey) are just shouting "science" at them as if that will convince them. It would have been so much better if you actually quoted the name of the institution that carried out this "science" or the co-authors of the study.
If you don’t bring the science articles with you, it’s practically the same as using a religious book for evidence
+Zurviver Hardly.. Dawkins doesn't have a bunch of science papers in a rucksack to hand out to people that don't believe in evolution, and that's to people for whome english is their first language. Why don't you try getting random people in the street to spend hours reading scientific papers.
You're welcome to check all the researchs online
Don't geneticists use saliva to conduct genetic tests rather than blood?
At 6:08 he said that Shem is Noah's father, but it's the other way around.
The irony of it all are that Palestinians are ancestry closer to ancient Israelites than most israelis
Where did you get that from? There is not one study that shows that. The Ashkenazi Jews are the closest genetic match to the "Palestinians" out of all the subgroups of Jews.
@@shainazion4073no its mazrahim not ashkenazi
@@shainazion4073ashkenazi jews? Really the Russians and ukrainians? 😂😂😂
@@amouri0307 I work with genetics and NO, the Ashkenazi Jews are the closest genetic match to Palestinians out of all the Jewish diaspora communities. The Mizrahim are not, you can hear geneticist, Dr. Ariella Oppenheimer say the truth, in the video, *_"Palestinians of Jewish Origin higher resolution"_* by *Misinai Tsvi,*
*Buy a book! Google is free!*
😂😂😂😂 that's a lie
welp now Palestinians are fighting science
their ancestors were but they are not .
you don"t own land because your great great great grandfather lived there , maybe he sold it and left who knows .
its stupid to say we own a land because our ancestors lived in it one day .
the land was conquered by the arabs it became their property and europeans re-conquered it again , that's the truth , people just need to be honest .
It silly questions; genetic testing doesn’t make the claim to the land Lagimate . . If I tested as I am indigenous to Europe would that give me legitimacy to European land? Automatic nationality ? The rules of modern world are not based on genetic testing