"The WEAKEST Avatar Nation Is.." | The Hot Takes of Anime Tiktok Part 20
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![Avatar: A Study in Worldbuilding - the Fire Nation [ The Last Airbender ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Pa2BD13VzxY/mqdefault.jpg)
Rest In Peace Akira Toriyama. People genuinely don't understand this mans legacy and how he reached BILLIONS. I will never forget where I was when I first heard it. Rest In The Greatest Peace Possible. ❤🕊
Your pfp was my reaction to the news.
Rip akira toriyama
Honestly is passing really showed how many peoples lives he genuinely impacted, I've seen people who never even mention anime talk about how dragon ball changed their lives
Rip Akira Toriyama🕊
r.i.p akira toriyama oml im crying holy
its the water nation they were under a full moon, home turf advantage, and the fire nation came on boats, yet they still were losing and let the moon spirit die if aang was not their they would've died
All I read was facts
Also the FN had war machines and nets. North WT bans women from learning combat based waterbending so they cut their numbers in half while FN allows both genders to learn combat and martial arts as we see with FN guards and Mai a non-bender.
While you do have a point, the fire nation also had weapons like canonballs to aid them in their attacks which is something the water nation didn’t have. Plus by the time the water nation knew the fire nation was going to attack them it was too late, they already had plans to infiltrate the northern water tribe while the water nation didn’t have time to properly prepare. A lot of people tend to forget that the fire nation was wayyy more advanced then most nations were back then and that helped them in their conquest to conquer the world and filled their beliefs of being the superior nation.
Part of the reason FN attacked the WT's was because they were next in the avatar cycle, so by kill the benders they narrow the chances of the Avatar returning. We also know that the FN tried to colonize the South WT because they had oil, but because of the harsh climate they gave up and just depleted all other resources, this is why Katara and Sokka were fishing so much in the beginning.
@@Leonardo-oq2qfIsn't that an argument over why the Fire Nation is stronger? Advanced tech and battle strategy that allow them to 1-v-3 the rest of the world?
It's a different argument on which element is stronger, but in terms of the nation's themselves, I'd say Fire is not the weakest.
I was so shocked hearing the loss of Akira. It was not like oh some celebrity died kind of sadness i felt true and raw emotions from the shock. Anime or manga in general lost its pioneer it lost its big brother. I hope where ever he is, he is in peace and will be watching over his creation and his little brothers. RIP Akira Toriyama sensei
Completely agree
*I believe the Fire 🔥 Nation is the weakest nation in my opinion* although it is protrayed as the Strongest Nation in The Avatar the Last Airbender series.
@@ShonenShowdownI don't believe by my show respect to you and pay my respects to Toriyama even though I don't like his fan base keep up the good content as always my friend be safe
@@ShonenShowdownSasuke won't even last against Luffy I agree with you as a one piece Naruto watcher
@@ShonenShowdownGojo and sakuna teaming up against mob shigeo kageyama is a good fight even though it could go either way I'm teaming with jjk
If toriyama and dragon ball never existed we probably wont have this and many other channels as well as many anime may his soul rest in peace
Rip Bozo 🎉
@@MarukaiX clown.
@@MarukaiX hello Disappointment
🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🗣️🔥🔥🔥
no one loves u bud@@MarukaiX
Rip Akira Toriyama
Created my favourite anime dbz and is an inspiration to the whole world.Countless people,gamers influencers,actors,artists,whole companies,football teams and athletes all across the world who he had a huge impact on their lives,have mourned his loss that happened so suddenly.
Rip Akira Toriyama,you will never be forgotten..
We will always remember and respect him…
When I heard that Akira died I was so sad, without him I wouldn’t have known the wonder that is DB
I NEED a few hour long hot takes of anime tiktok livestream🙏🙏
14:42 idk if this helps Gohan's case but the same way SSB is the super saiyan form of SSG, Beast is the super saiyan form of Ultimate. (as stated in Xenoverse 2 dlc, that's how I found out atleast) So imo he NEEDED to see piccolo get packed up to unlock his ssj version of ultimate which is Beast.
Yeah it makes sense because well ultimate is supposed to be gohan’s entire potential and what also counts as his potential besides his human side his saiyan part so beast just being ultimate super saiyan makes sense
Rob, we all feel the same right now.. I usually don't feel so low when I hear just any celebrity passed but Akira Toriyama is like a godfather not just to anime but as a figure in general, as you said we can go out and chase our dreams and to take risks/chances. He was such a powerful and legendary man who created so many of our values with his characters and it still doesn't feel real he passed. He created personally at least for me my favorite series of all time with my favorite character of all time in Goku. I just wonder how it would feel now to watch the series or go back to previous legendary moments that may be emotional or may be hype or whatever just understanding that the man responsible for them is gone. The man who turned us into the men we are today. He will not be forgotten. Rest in peace, Akira Toriyama, the greatest of all time. ❤🙏
6:50 my problem with both of these takes is the fact that they're taking about individual benders. The question is which is the weakest nation. You can't say they always needed to jump in this situation because THATS LITERALLY THE POINT. It's a war, since when did they say they doing 1v1's. They have better technology, weaponry and better numbers so they are the strongest nation, end of debate.
I thought it everybody agreed that the water nation was the weakest
@@_user0_ I could have sworn too but people misunderstood the question and here we are disrespecting the strongest nation. Even if you misunderstood the question I feel like the fact that the water nation got clapped with prep time, home field advantage and the direct counter to the fire nation's power should be enough to say its not the fire Nation that's the weakest.
Rip Toriyama. People don’t understand how many life’s he’s impacted with his work, me and my dad would always watch dragon ball together. Now watching dragon ball with the passing of toriyama it will definitely hurt watching dragon ball.
jjk fans will say that gen jutsu wont work on jjk characters since they dont have chakra but will turn around and say no one has an answer to gojos domain epansion even though we saw with maki that domain expansions can not work on people with zero cursed energy. They only use verse equalisation when it suits their arguement.
Legends Never Die. He will always be alive in our hearts ❤️
I feel like the avatar question was a bit misleading… They asked, which nation is the strongest, not which type of bending so this crediting, the fire nations, military prowess, and, ignoring the pacifist nature of the Airbenders defeats the purpose in a way. the air and water nations are by far the weakest nations
Rest In Peace Akira Toriyama, he created a world of wonderful ideas, characters and settings that made us love his work, motivate our lives and influence millions of fans, authors, etc. Thank you so much Akira, our legendary super saiyan friend♥💔
Rip Akira 🕊️🕊️
RIP father of anime without him anime wouldn’t be the same but not only anime us,art in general and the world wouldn’t be the same thank you so much toriyama may you RIP
Fly high 🕊🕊 Toriyama
Finally another Hot Takes video.
You need to make more of these.
RIP the goat Akira Toriyama.
After the last few episodes, Frieren is on that level.
Long Live akira Toriyama your gone but not forgotten! Thank you for the dragon ball world and childhood memories goku will forever be one of my favorite characters in anime
Great takes this time, I know I’ve had problems with some of your thoughts in the past few vids but not a lot here
Keep up the great work
Rip Akira
RIP Akira
Great video as always and rest in peace, Akira Toriyama . He definitely has inspired many generations to come with dragon ball Z and Super, and now daima is about to come out, and we can't wait, man 🌟🌟😁
i remeber watching you when u started those tiktok series bro. Congradulations on your growth
Future sight and the sharringan do not do the same thing, the sharringan allows you to see what you opponent is doing and based upon that predict the patterns and anticipate how the opponent will move and attack, but it is not the same as future sight which physically allows you to look into the future and know exactly what the opponent will do, the only exception to this would be when katakuri used future sight on sanji but do to his excellent observation was able to by pass that so it’s safe to assume as long as the opponent you are up against does not change what they do in their attack after you have used future sight the events will play out just as you saw them. But with the sharringan it’s always active so you’re able to anticipate all moves even when the opponent is changing them mid way through…. I hope that made sense lmao and I’m not just waffling
Good vid bro
Don't forget when Elder Kai unlocked that hidden potential
Part 21 Friday plz and thanks
9:55 Small correction Rob, but the animator who said that actually said that Sukuna vs. Mahoraga was only 30% of the intended vision, not that it was 30% done
Thank you for the correction!
Anime is one of my many favorite things in life. I’ve always wondered, “what would I do if someone like Oda, or Toriyama, or some great other anime creators passed?” and I stopped myself. “Don’t think about it.” and “It’s not like I want that to happen or myself to even imagine something like that.” and I *hoped* something like this wouldn’t hurt me badly.
Rest In Piece, Akira Toriyama 🪦🕊💔
*Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.*
-Dr. Seuss
12:58, isn’t Freiza canonically a mutant within his own species though?
Good Video
14:16 nah rob it’s rlly how “latent” are this ngas ability’s 😂
bros gotta be the latest bloomer of all time 😭
R.I.P TORIYAMA
Rest in Power Akira Toriyama 🐉 say hey to king Yemma for me and until we meet again😔🫡
RIP Toriyama
R we taking elements or nations? Weakest Element too me is fire but nation to me is water.
The Water Nation is the Weakest one.
Azula was a Firebender and Soloed Team Avatar at least twice by herself with Iroh and Zuko helping them.
The water nation damn near got wiped out under a Full Moon & Home Turf Advantage.
I feel like sharingan predicting where u going in the next 5-10 seconds based on muscle fibers twitching etc is very close to advance observation besides the times your looking like a minute in the future ninja can’t do that under regular circumstances
What I think should have happened is Gohan should of went in the time chamber with piccolo and that would have made it look better
Also rip to Akira sensei
The funniest thing about characters who could pass Gojo's domiane expensien is that Rentaru from 100 girlfriends that really really really really really love you is amongs them
Amen i'm christian so this hit home as someone in a black family who ALL Of us grew with dbz it hit different when i heard the news
R.I.P Akira Toriyama ill say i really wanna see gohan train which is why i thought of another cell saga thing where goku and vegeta are gone tho and everyone else is training to protect earth but the hate doesnt really make sense because they really let frieza go for free and whatever you say that was a frieza movie and he did borderline the same thing (also i think mob psycho can def beat the jjk verse but the gojo overhype gotta stop cuz people really think gojo would just beat anyone no matter their stats i also really dont know why people forget speed is the biggest factor of infinity)
Do a marvel character fan choose tier list
There was the one Waterbender that was a part of the White Lotus. All of the nations have pros and cons. That's what makes it a great question and displays Balance.
His name was Pakku, just thought I'd remind ya. 👌🏽
@@CBTheCandid Thanks. It's been several years since I've watched the Series. I couldn't remember his Name. 👊👊👌👌
I been arguing a Garp or Zoro would be a better matchup against BlackBeard. Roger proved with Haki you can combat the Gura Gura
stop talking
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Rip Akira. It can’t be expressed enough at how the world of anime and manga suffered a massive loss of the most influential and impactful mangaka
Rest in peace to the legend 🙏
Firstly and most importantly Rest In Paradise Akira Toriyama, still feels unreal tbh because this man and his work made me who i am today so i am forever grateful for him as well as what he's done. May he eternally be at peace ❤️
Secondly to talk about the video, i don't understand why it's hard to argue Blackbeard>King and Katakuri (y'know the same dude who got damaged by hakiless Oven) when this man clashed with a budha Sengoku at Marineford, was Sengoku old ? Yes, but this is a fresh Gura acquired Teach and he's already clashing with characters on parr with Whitebeard
The passing of the GOAT
I (mostly) agree about the Fire Nation being the weakest bending wise, but there's one mistake and one omission in his explanation.
The mistake is that the Fire nation philosophy of combat is not about finding the easiest way/path of least resistance, it's about speed and power, running your opponent down and tearing through their defense through overwhelming energy.
The omission is that Fire Benders have a massive tactical advantage over all others save Air Benders. They don't need raw materials to work with except breathable air.
the water nation is the weakest
@@nickalaslindsay7800
Oh yeah no, as a people the Water Tribes folded like paper against the Fire Nation once they came under attack.
But bending wise they hard counter the Fire Benders as long as they have sufficient resources, either by extinguishing their flames with moisture or by dropping the temperature bellow were the average Fire Bender can maintain their heat. The only reason they kept losing against them is because they didn't have the time or resilience to adapt to the pace of the attacks like the Earth Benders did.
@@matthewbreytenbach4483
The air nation is the weakest, of all the elements they take too long to kill their attackers, leaving them vulnerable
An average air nomad is never going to suffocate their attacker. With then being peaceful they wouldn’t do that until it was too late.
Not to mention as a nation they are the least unified, four temples in separate areas, cut off and unable to aid one another? There was no chance they could defend themselves for one day
Water benders lost the first battle we saw them in. During a war they were in for years. Not only are their forces out fighting the fire nation, they were weakened by tears of attrition
@@user-kt4to5xs9l
The Southern tribe did fight valiantly during Hama's day, but they were massively diminnished by the time of the series, and the Northern tribe hadn't fought the Fire Nation in eighty years or so and almost got trashed, sporit shenanigans or no.
The Air Nomads on the other hand could move with impunity from their temples and repel normal attackers for ages due to the favorable terrain. That's probably why Sozin held off on attacking for twelve years so that the Comet could make victory a certainty.
@@matthewbreytenbach4483
I still feel like the air nomads fought a weaker force. The water tribes had to fight tanks, air balloons, and massive war ships with tribal settlements and lasted. Even though the air nation had superior terrain they could have survived fairly easily even for their morals
Fire requires air to burn, all an air nomad needs to do is to blow out the flames or blast the bender away. I’m not sure that sozin had aircraft, but if he did then an air nomad would have the advantage
Air bisons, gliders, and their own natural evasion tactics should have meant they would last
And their ability to move freely meant they could just run or fly away. How would anyone catch them? As air benders they have the monopoly on flight.
we need more hotakes bro
lol infinity is passive the argument is can they even touch gojo other than great video
RIP the Goat🕊️🕊️🕊️
REST IN PEACE, AKIRA TORIYAMA! 🙏🏾🐉
Rip Akira toriyama we are going to miss you
Rest in peace
Damn rob dropped a video gets its time to eat ❤
Also RIP the father of shonen akira toriyama 🙏
Isn't the thing needed to make it a mecha... robots?
Rest in peace Akira toriyama
Predicting the future and seeing the future are two different things.
The sharingan Predicts the future by making out the next image of their opponent's moves. But it can't see the future of things they arnt looking at or natural or haxy abilities.
Only Urashiki, momoshiki and boruto can see the future.
I miss akira already RIP
Personally : The Sharingan can't sense opps. One clear example of that is Kakashi vs Obito (their last fight). Both of them got racked on different situations because they aren't able to sense the opponent.
OK here's my take :
-Sharigan doesn't predict the future at all. Sharigan allow the user to read the flow of the movement of the opponent which then allow the user to predict to an extent where a hit will land. So it's not the same thing as base observation haki that has precog or future sight where you can even see 10 seconds into the future.
-JJK has better fights than Frieren it's not even close even tho Frieren fights are amazing and always deliver in term of action. However fights are bread and butter of jjk.
-The fire nation is the strongest nation. The Sozin comet allow them to be more powerful for just a day. But they have to rely on their regular power for decades in order to conquer and subjugate the others nations and they did just that. So saying they are carried by the Sozin comet is just cap. They didn't conquer and subjugate the water and earth nation thanks to the Sozin comet.
-For the Gohan situation, I just think Gohan has a higher ceiling than Goku or Vegeta and if he work half as hard as them he will be more powerful than them. Gohan is a prodigy so it's not shocking to see him being that powerful after he put some work.
-Jjk verse in the grand scheme of thing isn't a powerful verse. There are a lot of verse that outscale JJK. However, even in jjk there are 2 characters that outscale the verse by far and it's Gojo and Sukuna. And Gojo and Sukuna can beat a lot of characters of others verse.
Now for Mob, I didn't watch the last season yet but the last time I checked he never faced an opponent as strong as Gojo or Sukuna. And Mob isn't a fighter. He rely heavily on his hax. He has no experience, no IQ or battle IQ, no real fighting abilities. I don't think hax alone can allow him to beat an experienced and skilled fighter.
u never watch mob physco if u think mob don't have fighting experience that's what season 2 was straight fighting.mob cannot fight with his hands but no one in jjk his beating him no matter how much u hype gojo and sukuna
@@nickalaslindsay7800 I mean fighting some some fodders monsters that even some grade 1 or 2 sorcerers in jjk can handle is very different from fighting experienced seasoned fighters Who great hax like him.
In paper Mob has more raw power than Sukuna or Gojo however in a fight there is a lot of things to take into account.
And compared to Sukuna or Gojo , Mob isn't an experienced and capable fighter. It's just a fact.
there is nothing to take in account once mob activate his power he can crush gojo into a tin can.and you saying mob only fight fodder stop lying to urself most people in the series will be able to do the same thing that mob can do.stop dick riding for once in your life@@donrog5035
That mob take is wild. Mob isn’t a combat genius but lets not act he has 0 experience/fighitng capabilities he’s fairly skilled with his basic abilities but if we’re being honestly it really doesn’t matter all that much cause how much more powerful and faster mob is. He’d speed blitz one shot most ppl in the verse, only the ppl with RCT could last a little but they wouldn’t be able to harm him.
@@Mariama_Kane Mob did have experience but not as much as Gojo or Sukuna. So against them he will only be reliant on his hax. And it does matter.
And Mob isn't fast enough to speedblitz Gojo or Sukuna.
Like I said I didn't watch season 3 however I saw nothing speed wise, Mob did in season 1 or 2 that impressed me.
Mob does not need the ??? form to win
THIS IS FOR ALL SAIYANS
the most legendary mangaka of all time RIP
It's the Water Tribe. I'll admit that water is one of the most versatile elements out there, as Katara demonstrates throughout the series.
But fact remains that even one enemy soldier getting past their defences would cripple the whole water tribe if he managed to kill the moon spirit. The other nations just don't have that problem.
Rip akira toriyama, thank you for carrying anime for so long, you brought life to anime. We all are able to run and fly becsuse you walked, toriyama, your won. Rest in peace.
Rest In Peace Toriyama
R.I.P my goat Akira Toriyama 🐐🐐🐐😭
rip akira toriyama my idol lost hislife
Dragon Ball Daimo is going to sell a lot.
To be honest, when I heard the news from my friend I thought he was joking. Too bad he wasn't. Rest in peace to the GOAT of the game Akira Toriyama. This man is what had got me into anime in the first place. Also, to add to the Mob vs Gojo debate I have seen people get twisted into literal soda cans in Mob Psycho and last time I checked limitless can't prevent the body from being twisted. It just stops physical attacks from reaching him. So, Gojo gets turned into a soda can by the way Mob has full control of his abilities by the end of the series including the ??? level so yeah, the entirety of JJK has ZERO shot at survival.
rest in peace Akira Toriyama for creating a masterpiece
Whenever people bring up the point that the air benders "could" be really lethal so therefore they are not the weakest nation is cap.
18:12 talking about fighting Gojo is weird, cause everyone forgets that he is just ftl, many characters could speedblitz him. Plus many characters can bypass him.
He isn’t even ftl.
@@Mariama_Kane people are convinced he is so, plus what I'm saying is that it doesn't matter
@@bananaBread16 Ye ik just saying the verse clearly isn’t light speed a lot of contradictions.
@@Mariama_Kane I also don't really think so, I think people overrate the hell outta JJK
@@bananaBread16 Ye the verse is overrated asf has the hax but severly lacks physical abilites.
remember the question isnt which bending is the strongest its which nation is the strongest you can say the other nations can hold their own but at the end of the day who has the greater numbers the stronger fighters and the best strategy the fire nation there is a reason why the avatar needed to save the world because the fire nation was gonna win
Animation Friren>JJK I loved JJK but Frieren is just different
Mecha=mechanical machine, Titans are mechanic which makes them not a mecha anime
Sharingan is definitely better. Future sight has too many stipulations. A standard sharingan perceives better . FS can be countered and isn't perfect as seen with Sanji vs katakuri..
Folks definitely gotta stop sleeping on Air nation😅. But it is facts the fire nation gotta jump folks 😂.
AoT being a mecha anime is a thought that I never considered 😮😂..
Gojo can't be speedblizted since his limitless is always on until he takes it off.. But i haven't watched Mob Psycho Fully so IDK😭
mob solo him and the verse
I disagree with the sharingan statement. I agree with everything else for sure.
The only reason why sanji somewhat countered future sight was because sanji has observation of his own and it was even hinted that he also could have future sight.
No where does it state the sharingan can see into the future. Only predict movements no matter how good that may be.
The sharingan has been tricked as well not just future sight. Neither of these are 100 percent perfect.
Lastly, the sharingan was only useful in combat, and only reacts to what the opponent does. Future sight, can see entire conversations and events, regardless of what the opponent does. Proof is when katukuri told the soldier about his entire conversation and how that would lead to him eventually being killed.
Conclusion: sharingan has better hacks with genjutsu and progression, but pre cog and prediction easily goes to literally seeing the future.
Sharragn being better is complete cap. Base observation is already better as it can also predict movements, sense where ppl are like sensory ninjas which sharrigan can’t do, far better range, and has 360 vision. FS can’t be counted but it can be dealt with if you’re faster which we know sanji is incredibly fast and has top tier observation.
Gojo can be blitzed if his six eyes can’t perceive an attack which mob is more than fast enough to archive that and he’s far stronger.
The best series is back
rip akira
king
For the blood bending point in the avatar take, I know the reason there aren’t more is because in most nations it has been outlawed so only criminals use it
Toriyama will forever be one of the greatest figures in modern culture
All fun and games till fire benders start using nuclear energy or lightning properly
The astral form of mob won't get past infinity not even air can get through infinity unless Gojo allows it. Sub atomic molecules which is what an astral form is can't get past infinity. Also speed blitz doesn't matter because Gojo would have Infinity activated before the fight starts. So no mob is not winning against Gojo.
talking like someone who don't know mob or never watch the show or just a gojo dickrider
Yo finish it “if jesus says yes nobody can say no”
#ThankYouToriyama
Rip the father of dragon ball your legacy will live on
RIP TORIYAMA LIVE PEACEFULLY
Fly high Toriyama... ♥
Rip akira Toriyama he changed & united the world 🌍
Rip akira toriyama also I want you to make a magic guild with people with magic abilities and some who dont have magic abilities but do have powers as well it has to be anime also start talking about the 2nd g.o.a.ted anime character sung jin woo
Rip toriyama
Advanced observation haki/ future sight is way better than a base Sharingan like come on what are we even talking about
It's literally in the name for why each nation lost. Kingdoms struggle in mobilizing armies, nomads specifically the air nomads don't have a military or high numbers, tribes lack the infrastructure and materials and raw materials to fight a war. If the earth KINGDOM was a nation they would have the biggest army and would wipe every other nation. They would gain fire nation tech or better at least and have stronger individual benders and their army would be bigger than probably the water tribes and air nomads combined and in every other nation non benders not doing anything but the earth KINGDOM has the most skilled non benders in the entire world of all time