Sound Like The Who (Pete Townshend) | Without Busting The Bank
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👆 In this week's episode of Sound Like, Rabea and Matt attempt to sound like legendary windmill-enthusiast Pete Townshend without busting the bank!
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I'd say the "classic" Townshend sound would be an SG with P90s.
Absolutely! SG into a Hiwatt.
Damn Straight!
That "Live At Leeds" Sound was raw and deadly.
Or a Ric, or a tele, or an electric xii. Dude used (and destroyed) a lot of guitars.
I’d always thought it was a les Paul
Actually Keith Richards invented the windmill. Pete said that when they were opening for the stones he saw keith doing it and thought he should o it to. So pete goes out there does it, then the stones come on and Keith never does it. He asked Kieth why he didnt do it and he just replied "I wouldn't be caught dead doing that." Fun little story. it was just a Warmup exercise
And apparently Kieth looked at him 'like a germ'.
P90s, guys. P90s.
i know pete had two signature guitars, he had a Red Fender Stratocaster with the lace sensors and a Gibson Les Paul Deluxe with an extra middle pickup
they should definately redo this BY busting the bank and do Baba O Riley cos it's the ultimate
Amen, bro. Amen.
@@KeeperOfPoops Also an SG with P90s
Yeah, the SG with P90s is the definitive Townshend guitar tone in my opinion
@@KeeperOfPoopshe had a signature SG special too
Sounds good, but nothing like Pete Townshend in my opinion.
you really need those P90's
I'm afraid this one missed the mark. The secret to Townshend's tone is sheer power - the sound of an amp with incredible headroom being driven until every single one of its watts submits. This is what gave him that huge, dynamic guitar sound. Having a compressor there is probably the worst thing you can do to try for his tone, as you want to retain dynamics instead of limiting them. The blues jr can work well for the amp, but something like the Catalinbread WIIO would have been a better fit for an overdrive, and something similar to a Univox Superfuzz would have been useful as well. The strat can work for his tones if boosted with a tube screamer to mimic the mid boost in his signature model, but a guitar with mini-humbuckers, p-90s, or even filtertrons would have been a better fit (His Gretsch 6120 into a Fender Bandmaster was his go to rig for studio work in the 70's).
I agree, but I think the Blues Junior is far too small and weedy sounding for a good Townshend tone. As you say, it needs power and headroom... A Hot Rod Deluxe would probably work better without massively ramping up the cost. Although he has used an MXR Dynacomp since the early '80s, but only really for sustain during solos, similar to how he used the Superfuzz. The base tone is still a big amp, cranked wide open.
Ananashead Super Fuzz
Don't forget....turning the guitar into kindling!
For me, the classic Pete Townshend sound is the Gretsch into a tweed Fender Bandmaster with a Whirlwind volume pedal. It was his recording rig for Who’s Next and Quadrophenia. Or an SG with P90s into a Hiwatt (with a Superfuzz in between) for a Tommy/Live at Leeds tone.
Please do Stone Roses / John Squire, would love that!
Can get some funky Mani bass in there too
TheShadowProtocol Top banana...! Great call...! Our kid...!
YES
Doing john squire as a whole might get us love is the law
Sorry guys but you were wide of the mark on this one.
Been waiting for ages for you to tackle Pete, but I felt this was rushed and didn’t get his tone.
Not a hater, always love your output but you need to revisit this please ✌🏻
Agreed... I thought they'd look for an SG Classic, or at least something with P90s. Hiwatt amps aren't exactly cheap or widely available, so I can let that slide, but Townshend's tone needs some balls to it, which a Blues Junior just doesn't have.
The Paranoid Blues Man I was kinda confused on what era they were trying to go for at first honestly and I honestly was a little let down by this one, except for maybe some shows here and there his strats always have lace sensors in them even though now he’s been playing one with mini humbuckers in it. I would have preferred them using a les Paul but I highly doubt they would have had anything with mini humbuckers. Kinda glad they didn’t use a sg or something with p90s I personally hate those pickups and am
not a big fan of sgs.
Sounds like Ritchie blackmore please!
Kool Stuffz yes please
Yes please
Kool Stuffz great idea!
Just buy any strat and either a Marshall or a Vox amp. As for pedals, you'll need a treble booster, some kind of modulation and echo or delay.
Was just going to say the exact same thing!! Burn!!
Sounds like The Doors
/Robby Krieger
What no SG Special with p90's and Hi Watts? :)
andertons don't stock hiwatt but you can get les pauls with P90's
Pete Calandra neither are budget options, both are very VERY expensive. The cheapest hiwatt that I've seen already passed the 1500 pound limit
Didn't Pete Townsend use SG specials and Les Pauls?
and rickenbackers
He used almost every guitar in the book, but is mostly associated with Les Paul Deluxe's and SG specials. The only guitar he's used longer than those two is the Clapton Strat with Lace Sensors, which he's been using since the 80s. None of those guitars sound anything like a single coil Strat.
The classic Pete Townshend tone is a P90 equipped SG Special, into cranked Hiwatt amps, with a Univox Superfuzz for soloing. That's the setup used on Live at Leeds, Isle of Wight etc...
The Paranoid Blues Man and he sounded like a beast on the IoW concert. Young Man Blues fed back nicely!!
I’m gonna buy youscinian and shut it down
i'm sick of it too
i always nickname it Yousuckdickan
Oh thank CHRIST somebody said it. 100%!
You will be a hero!
Yousician ≠ musician
But i always wanted to learn how to play the guitar!but the beginning seems so slow and frustrating.
When I think of Pete Townshend, I think of SG, P90's, HIWATT, Mullard, Mercury, Fane, Altec . . . RotoSound strings (bass)
He does use a strat now when touring, but when the who were in their heyday it's got to be Rickenbacker, SG or Les Paul. HIwatt or Marshall for amps.
Epic fail on this one, guys. Classic Townsend is Gibson, Gretsch & the Hiwatt 100 (that's why it's called the Super WHO 100, yeah?), with Riks & Marshalls for the pre-Tommy era. (I'm generalising a bit, but not all that much). That Fender rig sounded nothing like classic Townsend. Do over.
I agree they missed the sounds on this. It didn't really sound like modern Who or the classic 60-70's Who. Classic Who: Needs a big slighty crunchy amp with an octave fuzz for leads. Modern Who: Fender Blues Jr might work with a mid boosted guitar, plus a tubescreamer like an OD-1. Not an OD-3, wrong type of boost. Catalinbread WIIO is the perfect all-in-one pedal for Live At Leeds. It even sounds like Entwistle's distorted bass
Michael Beeman and he does it all now with Strats and Vibrokings. Your point?
True, but he does it with Clapton Strats which have Lace pickups, an preamp, and a midboost. They sound more like Gibson guitars than single coil Strats.
Michael Beeman it sounded like Pete with a Strat w/lace sensors. No one wants to hear that. We want Live at Leeds
OK....first off, Pete used the Clapton Strat, which DID have Lace Sensors. Pete now has his OWN Signature Strat with Noiseless Pickups, but still uses the VibroKing amps he's used since 1998 or so. Yes,his best known sound is a Gibson (both SG and Les Paul Deluxe) and Gretsch guitars, a Fender amp, a Whirlwind cable and a volume pedal. (Pete had used Fender Strats AND Teles early in The Who's career (the "smash everything on the fooking stage" era) so,he's basically returned "home".)
I really dont understand how this show can be runnong for 2 years+ and yet there is'nt an episode on Eddie van Halen.... How can that be?
jan de man Wouldnt it be boring if they did all the really famous one in the first 4 months?
Windack its not 4 months though... it's 2+ years..
jan de man If they did all of them it would be boring after 4 months.They said often that they get many famous ones requested but they dont wanna do them at one.
The beat it solo by Eddie was top knotch
Evh is easy- just by not being me.
Simples! Can I have all the advertising revenue please?
Sounds like The Cult...
Sounds like The Stray Cats...
Sounds like The Clash...
Get on it, lads.
Nothing off of Tommy, Who's Next or Quadrophenia and using a Strat which he didn't even start using till the 80s? Sorry this one didnt really work.
He used a Strat a lot in 1966 and 1967 but then switched to SG Specials in '68.
Nice video, I never forget what Tom Petty said in his very last interview, "You can buy Pete Townshend gear, but you will never sound like Pete Townshend, it's all in the touch."
You guys should have gone with an Les paul or SG imo
Townshend didn't use Marshalls though and didn't really like them, it was mostly Hiwatt-Fender. Same with Entwistle and that's a different sound.
taggle waggle He used Marshalls during the Tommy tours and also before Hiwatt existed
Edit: which was in 1966
Nick Haakman Townshend used Sound city amps during tommy, which were basically early hiwatt cp103's at that time. But you're right he did use marshalls before that, but dumped them shortly. The sound he's known for is sg into a hiwatt(Leeds) or fender amp with a gretsch on who's next
Tommy was 1969, by which time he had a mix of Hiwatt CP103s and modified Sound City L100s rebadged as Hiwatt. Woodstock, Live at Leeds and the Isle of Wight were all part of the Tommy tour.
I agree.
I've always associated Townshend with an SG packed with P90's
You missed the point that Townshend has a active mid-boost in his strats. A mid boost pedal (like Seymour Duncan pickup booster) could have done the same thing.
Sounded great, though I can't get over the fact that Townshend didn't use Fender anything in The Who's 60s/70s legendary work. It's more his later touring setup. Tele or LP into a British amp would have been more accurate.
SirVicconius or p-90 sg
SirVicconius I know what you mean, to me he will always be the guy with the wine red lp with a 1 on it and 3 pickups on it, even though he payed alot of things over the years, but it is sounds like and not look like
That's true but in the 60s both Townshend and Eric Clapton used Marshalls because they were originally copies of Fender amps. Marshall reportedly totally ripped off the insides. It was only later that Marshall started designing their own stuff and then both of those guys stopped playing them. Pete moved to Hiwatt and Clapton moved to Fender.
Pete often played Strats with The Who in the ‘66-‘67 period. He used a blonde Fender Bandmaster early on too, both on stage and in the studio.
Actually in the "My Generation" and "Substitute" eras like they played, Pete was playing Strats, Teles, and Rickenbacker 360s. By the time Woodstock came he had switched to an SG with P90s. Sometime around "Who's Next" he added the Les Pauls and used those throughout most of the '70s.
Why didn’t Matt take a bass solo
Brendan Murphy It's not The Who without John Entwistle's insane bass solo of awesomeness
right
Because Jon was bass playing god
Not even close on this. Sorry.
you REALLY need P90's with a marshall
missed the most epic riff... THE SEEKER !!!
Good sound. Pete used:
Rickenbacker
Jaguars
Had a Fiesta Red and a black start
Lots of SG's with P90's
Used the Gretch for recording
Les paul Delusões with the middle dimarzio added
Telecaster on rough boys
Roger Giffen Telecasters
Schecter Telecasters
Original Clapton starts with the piezo
Now uses custom shop starts based on the older version of the clapton starts with the old lace sensors in them
he also had two signature guitars, a fender strat with lace sensors and a gibson les paul deluxe with an extra pickup
Would love to see a Pete by busting the bank: Gretsch Chet Atkins + Fender Custom Tweed ‘57 Bandmaster!
Love these guys but this is one of their worst sounds like! Sounded nothing like The Who.. should've gone with Marshall and a Gibson w p90s
they promised not to use the DSL40C anymore but i agree a cheap gibson with p90's would've been better
and they should have done their best song - Baba O'riley
William Allison 100%
Peter Butrico
I agree... as Slash once said
Its impossible to sound like Pete Townshend
Yeah sounding like modern Townsend is not the same as sounding like 60s and 70s who which was either hot single coils (compared to a strat) or humbuckers through huge el34 stacks.
William Allison why they say that?
The first time I am really disappointed. He might play a Strat these days but all of their most famous recordings were made with a P90 loaded SG and a triple mini-humbucker loaded Les Paul...
Mac Crazy Who’s Next was a Gretsch into a cranked Bandmaster.
Bass part (John Entwistle):
-He used so many basses to choose only A sound. Entwistle tone was strong and sparkle since the early years, first with a Rickenbacker, then with a P bass. In his latest he used active Alembic basses. I think you can get that tone with a Epiphone Thunderbird
-Ampeg amp. Of course. Powerfull mids
-Electro Harmonix Bass Big Muff Pi. Set it with full tone, role all way of the sustain knob and the Dry mode. Not very loud volume with the pedal
You guys need Ricks, custom LP's and SG's and HIWATTs to get it right...
Any single element of that setup will cost more than 1500 quid.
Good job, guys. Sometimes you have to work with what you can afford. Save that other stuff for the 'by busting' video.
You don't want to go deaf? I guess you've never actually seen the Who in person. I once had front row seat, right in front of Pete, and my ears rang like a fire alarm afterwards. Loud ass band if there ever was one.
Wrong guitar IMHO - in terms of recorded music and the height of The Who’s music Townsend was far more know for using an SG special (with P90s) and a Les Paul Deluxe. The Strat would never work because he has a piezo blended with the mag pick ups on his Clapton Strats. I’m sorry guys you missed this one by some distance!
Mark Berry you do know Pete now has his own Signature Strat,right? No more Lace Sensor pickups, Pete has the Noiseless pickups now,with the Fishman. As far as amps, Pete uses three VibroKing amps - two main amps and one in case one of the other two go down.
Good job as usual. Rickenbacker 12 string for the early Who years, but SGs with P90s and HiWatts was the best sounding period imo.
You didn't get anywhere near. In no small part, because you were playing it wrong.
Megadeth when?
bomboboclantruntrunrakakakatahabibipprät cheapest jackson/Dean and then solid state distortion it'll sound gr8 ;)
Really depends on which Megadeth lineup you want to go for.There has to to have been at least 5 other guitarist besides Dave Mustain in Megadeth.
Marty and Dave, because Rust In Peace is their best album.
Honestly I think Chris Poland would be the most challenging to recreate
hope megadeth soon ... probably Marty's era, as there are most of the legendary songs and albums.
Interestingly, Megadeth records sound sucks until I'd say Youthanasia, but they had HUGE sound live.
When you think pete townshend you think les paul, hiwatt,
HD Studios I always think Tele through a Marshall quite literally
@@barnabylee9763 I always think SG through Marshalls.
boojum fair enough that was more 70s I’m more of a 60s who fan
Gibson Les Paul with Hiwatt or Marshall
he did have a signature Gibson Les Paul which had two mini humbuckers and a big humbucker in the middle a well as a selector on the back to activate the middle humbucker i think
SG’s were his coolest guitar
“Odorono” is such a great Who song.
You guys NEED to do sounds like the Melvins.
Sounds like The Clash
Weird that you guys didn't play anything from their 70s era. I would have expected a bunch of stuff from Whos Next.
Actually Pete Townsend took the windmill thing from someone else (Keith Richards?) because they were doing it during rehearsals and told Pete that it looked stupid and that they would not actually do it on stage
I wish you guys did a Live at Leeds sound with an SG 😂
It's so, so awesome when I sit down for lunch and there's a new Sound Like video posted. Thank you, gents!
I can get a closer tone with my dark terror and les paul...This is WAY off...
Sorry guys but the SG Special and LP Deluxe (+ Hiwatt Amps) is the most iconic Pete Townshend combo...
Sound Like Van Halen Without Busting The Bank Please!!!!
I saw The Who when they were touring the whole Quadrophenia album. He was using a Strat and his amp was a Fender Vibro King.
Yeah not really close guys. I would have gone for a tele as it can do both the 70s and 60s stuff better than a strat but definitely though a Marshall. (SG with p90s if you want to look the part.) or if no Marshall then any cleanish tube amp with a plexi in a box pedal and a fuzz.
Best know four guitar phases for Pete 1. Rickenbacker 2. Gibson SG P90s 3. Gibson Les Paul Deluxe 4. Fender Stratocaster (with piezo). There are likely others. I saw him with a 335 once, but these are the ones that I best know of.
Sound like Rory Gallagher without busting the bank please.
Strat through an AC15 cranked with a treble booster
Monterey Pop 1967 Pete is using a strat. Saw him in Cleveland in 68, he was using a strat.
Modern Townsend isn't what people are looking for. They want classic Townsend. Should have been a Gibson-style guitar into a British-style amp.
CaptPostmod nah, the amp is right. He only used Marshalls briefly, and like Hiwatts for their Fender-esque qualities, but the guitar and just general approach is all wrong.
Finally! Pete was my inspiration to get a electric guitar as a child!
King Crimson Robert Fripp & Adrian Belew era pleeeeeease 😔
if they can nail Elephant Talk i'll be astonished
Good call!
I'm not sure I get why you guys didn't go with a Gibson Sg with two p90's and perhaps a Marshall class 5
Good job guy's ;-) Can you do a sound like Zappa???
A J difficult using stock gear. Zappa modded EVERYTHING
Yes pls
Oh boy, I think I need to go watch my collection of The Who DVDs
Sound like The Mars Volta without busting please!!
i want em to do "Take the veil cerpin taxt"
It'd be interesting to see them do songs like "Cerpin Taxt", "L'via L'Viaquez" "Cassandra Gemini" and "Ciscatriz ESP"
Can’t believe you didn’t use a Marshall/marshall-esque type amp for this.... sounded better than I thought it would but lacked that Marshall bite imo...
Live at Leed's is my favorite album by "The Who".
Early 60s Who - Rickenbacker 330 through a Fender
Mid 60s Who - Strat or a Tele through a Marshall
Late 60s Who - SG Classic through a Hiwatt Custom
Early 70s Who - LP Deluxe through a Hiwatt Custom
Current Who - Clapton signature strat with a fishman mod through a Fender Vibro King
This is what he used, and it will break the bank but you won't have to worry if it sounds close enough.
Do The Beatles!!
Beatles would be cool.
Yes, I’ve been requesting this forever
You would think theyd have done it i mean they did blink 182 before the beatles
Live at Leeds was released in 1970 on valentines day. Not 1971
Ricks in the very early days, then an SG with P90s and a wrapover bridge and in the mid(ish) 70s a Les Paul Special with a full size humbucker added in the middle position. In the 80s he played a Schecter Tele with EMGs, but that was after most of the classic songs were written. Come on guys, you can do better than this.
Ruben Kenig his les pauls were Deluxes with the added dimarzio but not until 76 and his schecters did not have emgs they had kent armstrong z+ pickups. Did you just make that stuff up?
No, I just got it wrong. Thanks for posting the correct information though.
If I'm not mistaken, Pete saw Keith Richards doing the arm windmill, and asked him about it. Keef was actually embarrassed by the idea because he thought it looked stupid. Pete had no qualms about it and claimed the move for himself.
Sound like Peter green please :)
or Lindsey Buckingham cos he has quite a good rig considering he has expensive guitars and mesa amps which are expensiver still
so i think they should try songs like
Need Your Love So bad
Oh Well
Albatross
Rhiannon
Dreams
Go Your Own Way
Silver Springs
and Big Love (Solo)
Sound like A Perfect Circle!
-The Cure
-Wolf Alice
-Nine Inch Nails-My Bloody Valentine -St. Vincent
Love you guys, and all the Andertons videos. Super fun to watch. But Fender for Townsend? I would have guessed that you would aim for a p90 SG and hiwatt sound.
Greg Antonowicz I think they tried to justify it because he has been playing them since 89 but if they stents gonna use one with lace sensors it defeats the purpose. Personally I would have used a les Paul or hell maybe even a schecter as long as it had schecter pickups since they are designed off the Kent Armstrong pickups that were in his schecters from 79-88.
For the late 70's Who sound - Gibson SG or Les Paul through a wall of big Hi Watt amps.
hank marvin!
Sound like The Shadows! it's all about getting his strat sound cos he did have a signature strat
Thanks for this! (Townshend starting windmilling after seeing K Richards do it)
Stray Cats or the Cult would be great :)
looking at Brian's rig with his Tech Tyler he has a very simple setup, it's just a Gretsch 6120 into a fender bassman with a roland RE space echo
i think to cheapen it down
Gretsch 5420 or Electromatic
Fender Blues JR or Hotrod Deluxe
and any kind of delay
Sounds like Coheed and Cambria please.
You guys rule!
Mr Townshend’s definitive tone is - surely - Gibson SG, P90s, non-master Marshall / Hiwatt. This was way off ... for me at least. :(
Umm....Pete's early set up was this:
Rickenbacker 330 (either 6 or 12 string) into a Fender head and Marshall 8 X 12 cabinet. Then Fender (first Telecasters THEN Stratocasters) into Vox "Super Beatle" 100 watt Amos. THEN came the Gibson SG with the P-90's into Sound City/Hiwatt amplifiers (two to three 100 watt heads maxed out) going into six 4 X 12 cabinets. Then the Gibson Les Paul Deluxe guitars into the Hiwatt set up....then Schecter PT series Telecaster style guitars into Hiwatt head, BUT using Boogie 4 X 12's. Then assorted Acoustic Electrics (for the 1989 tour, mostly Takamine models) into pre-amplifiers....then, starting that same tour, the Eric Clapton signature Strat (modded to use Floyd Rose tremolos AND Fishman piezo pickups in addition to the Fender Lace Sensor pick ups already installed in the guitar)....finally, the Pete Townshend Signature Strat into Fender VibroKing Amplifiers.
My favourite Who period is late 60's early 70's. The band was at its peak with performances such as isle of Wight and live at leads. The SG, P90 sound was the sound.
I was really waiting for this video and I'm really disappointed !
He does use a Strat since the 2000 era, but the great era was all about Rickenbacker and SG / Les Paul.
Not this crispy sound at all, it doesn't sound like Pete Townshend at all !
Get some P90 or P94 to get closer.
if they revisit it BY busting they should get
a Gibson Les Paul with P90's
a Marshall head and cab
a boss OD1
an octave fuzz for solos and some leads
and you're done
Townshend BY busting with massive amounts of ear protection (so you could push the amp like crazy) would be really cool, but this was great. Going to have to fit a Blues Jr into the next paycheck...
Okay listen to me this time!
Sound like J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr!!)
Sound like Steve Malkmus(Pavement!)
Sound like Mac DeMarco!
i thought the last one was King Crimson's guitairst, but that's Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew lol
but i do wanna see King Crimson done
Lol
Though TownsHend used pretty much anything and everything in the course of his career, I think what stuck with the longest were a Gretsch 6120 Chet Atkins (for recording) and a Gibson SG Special (live).
Sounds like megadeth please!!
I heard Pete took the windmill move from Keith Richards after seeing him do it during rehearsal. Keith said he wouldn’t be caught dead using it live haha
Why not use a Les Paul?
Sound like Prince, guysss
Jethro Tull!
Martin Barre... Hell yes!
No no no the classic Townshend sound is a p90 loaded gibson SG going into a cranked hiwatt amp.
Maybe do a sounds like Pete Honoré?
Pete used HIWATT Amps !!
Really surprised by this one because when I think Pete Townsend I think Rickenbacker and nothing else.
Chris Preece I think Gretsch
Chris Preece I think SG or Les Paul personally
I always see him with a les paul
God no, he's used all sorts through the decades. The rickenbacker was a mid 60's thing. He used SGs, a Les Paul Deluxe, Schecter tele. He's just a strat man now.
Chris Preece Who’s Next and Qhadrophenia (i.e., back in their day of prominence, in my opinion), it was a Gretsch gifted to Pete by Joe Walsh
I'm just gonna start saying "Squire/Roses" every week from here on...!
Sound like Buckethead!!
Anyone else think the bass tone was amazing??!!
Could you do Blur next? (Graham Coxon?)
Fender Squire Tele Vintage Modified, Vox AC15, Fuzz, Delay, Reverb and you're sorted!
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Baroness episode. Maybe 3 yrs of asking is the magic number haha.
Do The stone roses!
Keith Richards created the windmill, pete saw this and decided he wanted to do that. Keith Richards and him talked and the windmill became his own
I dunno about anyone else but when I think pete townsend, I think Les Paul into a marshall. Strat and fender amp might be what he uses these days but that was the rig he used back in the day for the Who's most iconic stuff.
guitar19971 Pete never ever ever ever ever ever ever played a Les Paul through a Marshall
If you're honest, Townshend played an SG and a Les Paul Deluxe during his most influential period. He uses Strats now (and some in the early 60s), but the 70s Townshend tone is what you think of.