Rameau himself was a composer who strove to bring opera to common people and was the first who managed to do so. Prior to him in France only the nobility and the affluent could appreciate such works. Let´s not forget that the classical music is mostly a sophistication of the music created by common people as you can see in the popular european dances that were extensively used by baroque composers.
Dang, beautiful! I love that baroque ballet is a bit more interesting for the guys instead of them just having to walk around on stage moving or carrying around the female dancers most of the time like in classical ballet.
I love the dances in Rameau operas, and I like them when they are slightly modernized and more athletic, like this. I think this is very good choreography for this kind of thing. The original Baroque style is nice, too. What I don't care for is when it is essentially modern dance. and sort of grotesque, inelegant
Although I like very much "authentic" baroque operas, I think it's very interesting when someone like W.Christie puts it in a modern way. If you think about, it's modern music, something of our time, made for common people who just like music, and not just for specialists. And you can be quite sure that mr. Christie is far away from ignorant, in musical matters.
You are simplyfying the whole question...A shallow comment in my opinion...I adore Rameau's music since I was almost a child..and believe me, I've read dozens of books about his work..But I don't want to argue...; )
I agree with you. Although I like this sort of dance performance I also prefer true baroque dance. I hope Mr. Christie employs french baroque dance experts again.
the question about "this pretentious talk of how so-called common people cannot understand beauty"... well you have an answer on CZcams. If you read the comments you'll see comments coming from people who hardly write their own langage, who are not so educated and enjoy M-A Charpentier, Lully and so many others.
It is true, uncommon people (if you can understand me) rarely create art, they usually sophisticate art created by common people. Another good example can be find in Handel, who gave up opera nearly at the end of his life to devote himself to the oratorio form where he employed mostly amateur singers and had a great audience of both uncommon (if you can understand me again) and common people.
If only Handel had had the singers perform his operas in English they audience might have actually understood and enjoyed them more. Serse for example, which was a big flop back then, is insanely entertaining. Pity..
Es ist aber kein barock-tanz. Ich glaube, dass Christie nur inspieriern wolte. Z. B. in die Teil "Gavotte" ist das ueberhaupt kein gavotte. Trozdem alles. Es mein lieblig Oper von Rameau und ich bin total froh, dafuer Christie so gemacht hat. Schade, ich koennte nur auf DVD das sehen. Vielleich ein Tag werden sie das wieder noch spielen.
I don't get it. Are you correcting my English, or do you agree with this person instead, in that common people cannot appreciate beauty? Do you have to be uncommon to do so? That sounds funny and pretencious to me. Actually, everyday life is full of examples of common people creating and loving beauty that demonstrate the contrary.
oh my god... and the French wonder why they have such a gay reputation? haha. and I mean gay in the nicest way possible :p this is pretty, if a little silly, but that's fun too huh?
C'est du raffinement jeune homme ................ subtilité !!!!! Et les américains une réputation de gros débiles qui tirent sur tout ce qui bouge !!!
You know, some people think that the dancers, musicians, set and costume designers, and choreographer deserve the respect of being identified. And some people don't, I guess. None of these people are getting royalties from your post. The least you can do is name them.
Really?Oh,that's just because you are a pretencious and funny guy yourself... Forget political correctness and demagogy just for a while and think about it...Regards. : )
As a "classical' choreography it is sixth rate at best, as a baroque inspired dance it is simply uninformed nonsense.And Bill Christie is involved? Boy, is he losing it.
Great choreography! There's room amid all the "authentic" dancing for such joyous expression as this.
une production éblouissante tant vocale,chorégraphique et musicale..un enchantement
Rameau himself was a composer who strove to bring opera to common people and was the first who managed to do so. Prior to him in France only the nobility and the affluent could appreciate such works.
Let´s not forget that the classical music is mostly a sophistication of the music created by common people as you can see in the popular european dances that were extensively used by baroque composers.
Dang, beautiful! I love that baroque ballet is a bit more interesting for the guys instead of them just having to walk around on stage moving or carrying around the female dancers most of the time like in classical ballet.
I love the dances in Rameau operas, and I like them when they are slightly modernized and more athletic, like this. I think this is very good choreography for this kind of thing. The original Baroque style is nice, too. What I don't care for is when it is essentially modern dance. and sort of grotesque, inelegant
History repeats itself before our very eyes!
Bella danza
Although I like very much "authentic" baroque operas, I think it's very interesting when someone like W.Christie puts it in a modern way. If you think about, it's modern music, something of our time, made for common people who just like music, and not just for specialists. And you can be quite sure that mr. Christie is far away from ignorant, in musical matters.
Bravissimi
You are simplyfying the whole question...A shallow comment in my opinion...I adore Rameau's music since I was almost a child..and believe me, I've read dozens of books about his work..But I don't want to argue...; )
❤️❤️👏👏👏
Quelle grâce
I agree with you.
Although I like this sort of dance performance I also prefer true baroque dance.
I hope Mr. Christie employs french baroque dance experts again.
I agree with you MarieEtOlivia....I mean, it's obvious!!!!
:18 is awesome
A woman after (or two Women?) after my own heart.
the question about "this pretentious talk of how so-called common people cannot understand beauty"... well you have an answer on CZcams. If you read the comments you'll see comments coming from people who hardly write their own langage, who are not so educated and enjoy M-A Charpentier, Lully and so many others.
Parce que la musique est universelle
why do you think that?
It is true, uncommon people (if you can understand me) rarely create art, they usually sophisticate art created by common people.
Another good example can be find in Handel, who gave up opera nearly at the end of his life to devote himself to the oratorio form where he employed mostly amateur singers and had a great audience of both uncommon (if you can understand me again) and common people.
If only Handel had had the singers perform his operas in English they audience might have actually understood and enjoyed them more. Serse for example, which was a big flop back then, is insanely entertaining. Pity..
Es ist aber kein barock-tanz. Ich glaube, dass Christie nur inspieriern wolte. Z. B. in die Teil "Gavotte" ist das ueberhaupt kein gavotte. Trozdem alles. Es mein lieblig Oper von Rameau und ich bin total froh, dafuer Christie so gemacht hat. Schade, ich koennte nur auf DVD das sehen. Vielleich ein Tag werden sie das wieder noch spielen.
I don't get it. Are you correcting my English, or do you agree with this person instead, in that common people cannot appreciate beauty? Do you have to be uncommon to do so? That sounds funny and pretencious to me. Actually, everyday life is full of examples of common people creating and loving beauty that demonstrate the contrary.
Je m'étonne de l'anachronisme des costumes ...
oh my god... and the French wonder why they have such a gay reputation? haha. and I mean gay in the nicest way possible :p
this is pretty, if a little silly, but that's fun too huh?
C'est du raffinement jeune homme ................ subtilité !!!!!
Et les américains une réputation de gros débiles qui tirent sur tout ce qui bouge !!!
You know, some people think that the dancers, musicians, set and costume designers, and choreographer deserve the respect of being identified. And some people don't, I guess. None of these people are getting royalties from your post. The least you can do is name them.
Really?Oh,that's just because you are a pretencious and funny guy yourself...
Forget political correctness and demagogy just for a while and think about it...Regards. : )
As a "classical' choreography it is sixth rate at best, as a baroque inspired dance it is simply uninformed nonsense.And Bill Christie is involved? Boy, is he losing it.