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"Arguing with stupid people is like playing chess with a pigeon - they don't listen, they don't use the rules; they'll just shit all over the board then strut around like they've won." - anonymous
_Those not interested in accurate evidence are not interested in truth. Truth is context-driven; deceit is agenda-driven._
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To paraphrase my favorite line from A Fish Called Wanda, to call such people stupid is an insult to stupid people.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you over the head with experience.
Hey stop cribbing on my chess strategy jerk!
PS.. you got some bread?
@@brianhunter2924 In my trade, the worst are those who have watched YT video and believe they know as much as a master tradesman.
Maybe I'm just an old fashioned old woman, but I always thought that receiving what was supposed to be serious, relevant information in a Tweet was a stupid idea. I just may not be keeping up with the times but I always kind of dismissed crap on social media as iffy information.
The world needs more old fashioned people to add a little stability.
You're the kind of old fashioned we need more of. Too many conservatives want all the shallow old fashioned traits and traditions
@@abjectt5440 we have a lot of either-fashioned people, we don't need anymore of anyone actually. We need to square things with the crowd we got
Yeah, pretty much. It can be ok-ish for looking at a smattering of headlines, maybe, but anything without links to actual information isn't worth treating any more seriously than someone in a sandwich board shouting into a megaphone on a street corner about how nigh the end is.
Wise to do so.
“Facts are almost irrelevant to most people. We make decisions based on emotion and then justify them later with whatever facts we can scrounge up in our defense.” - Paul Rusesabagina
That is a good quote.
@@darkfluid5004 And sadly accurate.
Hummm dear Beau( and fans) … if you add context , plus timing it changes implications of report …( 1 ) large build up Ukraine troops contact line … couple days ago …(2) failed coup CIA/MI6/Mossad ( radical elements ) in Belarus (3) England and America sending war ships to Black Sea ...Think of when a rat feels cornered ....Booooom
I may need to enlarge this quote and send laminated copies to my neighbors. 🤔
@@kityac9810 - Paul Rusesabagina was the manager of the Hôtel des Mille Collines in Kigali, Rwanda at a challenging moment in history.
my family doesn't give a crap about facts. Many of them are un-salvageable and I want nothing more to do with them. To quote the chicks, I'm not ready to make nice.
Listen to "March, March." It's a great combo! 👍
Same!
on all sides that's part of the problem ☯️🗣️🤔☮️
Yup, I hear you!
I feel ya! But they’re still family. I recently watched the movie Tombstone. Wyatt Earp’s father made a quote: Family is everything everybody else are just strangers.
The problem being they dont want to hear facts. They want thier narrative and that is all.
@Pol Pot 2024 bullets end tyrants
These are the same guys who tell me I'm "living in fear" for taking reasonable health precautions.
Right? Too blind to see the hypocrisy staring them in their mask-less faces. smdh
"I don't remember it ever being this serious under Trump."
Didn't Hawaii get a Nuclear missle warning...
Republicans have extremely convenient memories.
No. False alarm.
@@caseyj8210 obviously, but they still got the alarm
@@HimitsuHunter
And issues with context (as in an inability to recognise it before "tweeting" )
SPEAK !!!
I hope the final tweet from STRATCOM before it all ends is "So long and thanks for all the fish"
and "We'll meet you at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe."
And don't forget your towel and your babbel fish
@@hdiponzio always know where your towel is.
LOL Underrated comment.
Well, I know what song will be stuck in MY head today.
I’m so glad I don’t have a Twitter account.
You are missing Beau's tweets 😁
Thankfully I don't have any social media accounts and am better off. Look at face book's 500 million exposed clients and all they give is a shrug.
@@abjectt5440 CZcams is a social media account.
@@cf453 Technically...yes, But on the same token, it's still quite different from 'traditional' social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Me too
Hahaha "alleviate their fear with facts". That's funny. If these people listened to facts we probably wouldn't have to worry about them in the first place.
They have their own set of "facts" which don't align with the real world.
That was my first thought as well.
@@machintelligence alternative facts!
the key is to catch them before they fall too deep into the rabbit hole, once they are too deep in right wing ideology they will just dismiss anything presented to them as fake and will stubbornly cling to stealth-fascism until they shake themselves out of it or don't. other people can only influence your politics if you are willing to listen to what they have to say and respect their viewpoints.
Rickus LastName what you said 100%. They hate facts. Interferes with their narrative.
Speaking as a guy who hid under his desk for "bomb drills" before running to recess and lunch, you're gonna have to do better than, "OMG UR totes nooked" to upset me.
Ahh yes, memories of carefree childhood. That desk/chair was going to save us. hahahaha.
Yep.
They forgot or don't know about Reagan's presidency and his Alzheimer's. Not the point. I don't know - I give up trying to reach the other side. My sister will be staying with me for about three weeks - have to avoid the political topic.
I'm Canadian and can't for the life of me understand how you can live 24/7/365 politics. The rest of the is scratching it's head at the madness.
@@abjectt5440 Every choice you make has an outcome and consequences. That's politics.
@@ChrisPage68 you nailed it, but trying to get that point across to another person is sometimes impossible. All they hear is the word politics and they are turned off no matter what the subject especially when it comes to progressivity. They believe it won't affect them whatsoever.
@@abjectt5440 The right wing media started amping up the fear decades ago, for their own purposes. It was more effective than almost anyone could have imagined. American conservatives have been thoroughly convinced that anyone on the left (and their definition of "left" extends as far right as Mitt Romney) is not only wrong, but evil. Their emotions have been manipulated so thoroughly for so long that their constantly elevated fear response prevents them from logically evaluating the information they're fed. That's why many of them live politics 24/7. They believe malign forces are attacking them from every direction, and they must be prepared at any moment to fight to the death. Many of them believe that God Himself is on their side and wants them to destroy the evildoers. That's pretty strong motivation for a devout believer.
Then, as a result, non-conservatives have become scared of the right's increasingly violent rhetoric which has now escalated to outright violence (the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, the foiled plan to kidnap and execute the Democratic governor of Michigan). So now we're glued to the news too. And there's a fair amount of manipulation of our emotions too, because that's what drives the TV ratings.
Lemme tell ya, it's more fun than a barrel of (rabid) monkeys. I take regular long breaks from news media because the stress isn't good for my health. I figure if anything really important happens, I'll hear about it by word of mouth fairly quickly.
@@abjectt5440 Seeing trumpers and Qanuts in Canada is pretty damn alarming! Pro-trump rallies, Q for I Have Qovid, people chanting “Lock her up!” at a provincial Public Health Officer - that’s weird
"We have a dementia patient in charge of the White House."
2016 sure is moving slowly.
Reagan definitely had dementia, and no one let him nuke anyone.
They didn't let Trump try nuking hurricanes.
I think Strategic Command deserves more credit than they're given.
I will have a good day, because I don't have Twitter : )
Me Too & it's 4/20..👍 🚬
@@janicehotchkiss3786 well yes, because of that too : )
jonny-five , me too. :) enjoy 4/20
Over 70, & me too.
Jonny-five, It used to be that a certain type of engineer designed and built systems, a series of pipes, to remove the sewage from your home. Now, a different type of engineer has designed and built systems, "a series of pipes", to bring the sewage *into* your home.
120% thanks for informing us and bring people together.
Now, if only the other side would be as receptive...
@@ibelieveinscience1628 Understood, my friend -- but in my experience at least, the best way to lead them to try openness is to approach them modeling it.
@Unknown Variable true, and they do. I have found it a good start to breakdown the lack of MORALs their leaders have, instead of focusing on policy. Then I lean hard on the fact that Trump was/is a coward, and most on the right like to think they are NOT cowards, yet follow one, or would into war(once you point this out, you sometime can literally watch the gears starting turning in their heads, they are rusty as all get out, but the gears DO work when pushed the right way! 😂
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Bringing people together just like Maxine Waters. 😂
Right-wing fear mongering never ends! Your spot on as usual Beau, have a great 4/20 day. ✌
It's what keeps them in power.
You're.
It takes conservatives a long time to adapt to change, to evolution. Just in fairly recent history;
-- Preached that blue-jeans were the "work of the devil and would tear America apart". About 30 years later they declared blue-jeans were "All-American, traditional".
-- Screeched that the rock of the '50's was "The devil's music that would corrupt America's youth and rip the nation apart". Today the most popular music of the conservatives, country, sounds almost exactly like the rock of the early '70's.
-- Up until only a few years ago conservatives were denying any climate change was occurring at all. They slowly conceded it is happening, only that people have no role in it. While at an agonisingly snail's pace some have even come to admit humans do play a part recently.
Fear-mongers spread their rumours due to their own fears, often in the form of projections onto that which they are scared of. Then there are the propagandists who manipulate that fear for profit, so are more than motivated to propagate their audience's fears deeper in them to keep the money flowing. Propaganda is the worst virus affecting the US and the world right now. Curb that and the fear would lessen dramatically in the naturally fearful segment of society.
So true. Projecting onto Biden what they know about Trump.
@@rorycallaghan5719 100% right, friend!
And Profit is the strongest motivator for many.
The phrase, "posture statement" gives me all the context I need.........they are maintaining an appropriate posture to ensure readiness. What did others expect their posture to be? Were we expecting a statement that proclaimed that everything is fine around the world, and they are NOT ready to face certain dangers?
“Land of the free, home of the brave...”
Sure as sh*t seems to be the opposite of both those things. Thanx for the context, brother.
Well....they're free and they get to act brave, while the rest of us....I dunno.
It's actually more like "Land of the fee, home of the slave."
The RW's only goal is to be as combative as possible towards the LW and anything that relates to the LW.. This was just an opportunistic moment to do the only thing they know how to do.
Which is LIE like a rug...
The driving emotion of conservatism is fear.
@@aylbdrmadison1051 You nailed an obvious truth. Conservatism is a fear of change, a fear of other, and a fear of the future. It seeks to keep us stuck in old belief structures that no longer serve. The nature of life is constant change and unless humans accept this basic truth we will not survive. We are already seeing this play out in many ways on the planet.
@@deadreckoning6288 I don't disagree with you, but I almost feel like it's giving them too much credit (for lack of better words).. It just seems that they are so wrapped up in the fight, that they no longer know or care what they're fighting for - they just wanna fight. Forgive the derogatory nature, but there's an old saying about the Irish.. They don't know what they want, but they're always ready to fight for it.
I found the original tweet to be crystal clear, no ambiguity. In the current global environment there are certain states facing certain conditions where they might feel they have nothing to loose. Same message they have put out every year for these last many years
Fight fear, lies and misinformation with bravery, truth and facts. Sounds like a plan to me.
Soo... Vote out Republicans and bring down Faux News, OAN and Newsmax...
Sounds like a plan.
fight fear with facts.
if only it were that easy.
"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hatred leads to suffering..."
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Wait, rewind that...Strategic Command has a Twitter account? 👀
RIGHT??? WTAF is that all about?
@@ExkupidsMom Absolutely agreed! Crazy that SAC is communicating through Twitter!
Stupid use of an overused platform.
Have you seen their Tik Tok ? - one I saw was explaining the threat from modern terrorism through the medium of dance and mime.
@@englishsteve1465 ... took me a moment, lol. Though to be fair, you _gave_ me a moment too!
I don't wanna live like my mother
I don't wanna let fear rule my life
And I don't wanna live like my father
I don't wanna give up before I die…
Wow
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Beau, I can’t figure out what they’re afraid of. It always feels like any discussion (not started by me) is brought up just so I can get yelled at. There’s no listening to understand, just listening enough to respond. It doesn’t matter what I say. So I opt for saying as little as possible anymore.
I used to have a millionaire coach me on getting my business up and going. His wheelhouse was marketing and sales. The biggest thing he drilled into me was that fear was the biggest motivator. Sell to peoples' fears as it will get you the greatest profit. I left that behind because I can't do that to people but that's the way it works. Use fear to sell your product even if that is propaganda.
The problem is, that the fear they feel is real, and couple that with a willingness to believe the first thing they hear, or worse only what someone with a suit on is telling them, it makes them very difficult to convince otherwise, simply because they do not want to be wrong because to them being wrong is the same as being stupid, and stupid is something they would never admit too.
Exactly wonderfully correct.
It's weird that you spelled "they" when you meant "I"
@@NegativeNoob Bruv, I've faced death and dismemberment daily, idiote don't scare me, idiots in mass following some bs believe just make me angry
They fear appearing stupid? They not only seem like the most ridiculous people that have ever lived but they seem almost beyond stupid. The tactics they use to avoid feeling like their stupid make them appear almost brain damaged. Anyone who does what they're doing with the goal of avoiding looking stupid is obviously incredibly stupid. We all know they're stupid. They also seem to be mentally ill or at least personality disordered. Yeah great strategy they have to protect their egos and not feel stupid. If anything they've embraced being stupid and are trying to turn it into a positive trait. It's a point of pride to them and they're so stupid they think if they just act proud and confident we'll all think they're in control and purposefully idiotic. Which of course noone would ever interpret it that way. They don't understand that though........because they're so incredibly stupid. Oh weak too. Weak, frightened, people who can't seem to think properly. Defective is a good word to describe the right. Defective people. Maybe they'd prefer that since its not saying they're stupid.
Ultimately each adult is responsible for their own fears. To just blindly believe all this BS is as much their fault as those spewing it. Honestly do you jump off a cliff just cause someone tweeted it?
Some of these folks really would if Dump was able to Tweet it Dx
Exactly.
I know someone that does not believe humans went to the moon. Who this misinformation benefits even he cannot explain but he knows it true. Not a bad guy but he is broken and will not accept the possibility that he is wrong.
@@anniecorbin7998 Annie, I think the sad truth is they didn't fall for anything. They thought this way, But knew it wasn't acceptable. Trump made it acceptable in the eyes of many people
it's like a religion, they are often raised into extremism. taught it from birth.
Justin, thank you for your channel; keep it up. I’ll continue to watch, learn and spread a positive message and be a guiding light.
Sounds like you got religion. 😝
Just don't know about you.
Yea, this sounds a little religious for my taste and I imagine his as well. He has even said never have heroes or venerate people, only ideology and the good thens that come from it. He is a good man, but still just a mam amd as such far from perfect. That is important to keep in mind.
It’s more spiritual than it is religious. Calm your jets, you fiery atheists. Let folks find their own path to the greater good.
@@Circlewisewoman01 i'm not an athiest though. Born and raised progressive midwestern Lutheran. I'm just saying the wording used has religious undertones and Beau himself has advocated several times for not elevating mere people to be more in your mind that what they are.
I will not live in fear. Thank you Beau
I have a family member I have talked to until my teeth fall out and they still believe what they want to believe. They think I’m brainwashed. I have tried to alleviate the fear and they still believe what they believe.
Same here
I talk to my bird. He makes more sense than most of my family members. 😁
@@jenniferr9624 thanks for injecting humor with the facts.
Golly gee , I have a few of those too, Wrapped in a fundamentalist bible and 24/7 Faux News , Hey wanna compare loonies?
Brainwashed? I've heard that one too. Funny, to brainwash me, they didn't even have to lure me into listening to propaganda on the radio several hours a day, five days a week, for years and years! I must be awfully weak-minded. :-P
Honestly, it makes me really sad. So many people that I love with all my heart...
Nuclear war is the LAST thing I'm afraid of. I'm more afraid of a shooter walking into the Walmart next door to me and opening fire with his AK-47.
Indeed.
Hi Beau. I love the shade of blue and I love the statement on the shirt. Hi Internet people. Best wishes for all!
I think the time has come for me to say goodbye to Twitter. Haven’t been on there and now I know why. Good lord humans are a scary lot.
I never have a Twitter account and not interested to have one. I even logged out on my fb for a long time now. 😝
You're assuming that facts mean anything to them... I've already tried this, and they just pretend that the facts aren't real. This is why I've given up on them, and have cut them out of my life.
Life's too short to worry about them. You might as well talk to your shoe.
Patience. It might takes years. Don't give up gently insisting truth. Be there for your fam. Don't accept abuse, but try to remember they need to find a way back through a long dark tunnel while their "friends" want to drag them deeper into darkness. I suspect it might be like trying to be there for a drug addict or someone with mental health issues. I think they all have a chance. If we try to help each other, society has a chance. Patience of a stone, flexibility of a willow.
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@@hattielankford4775 I like you. When it gets too frustrating, break contact. Some can be saved.
@@hattielankford4775 Absolutely, Right On!
Drug addict or MHissues - it takes a very different approach.
Bright Blessings and Patience to us all!
Alleviate fear with facts. A sound strategy. I hope that it works better going forward.
Unfortunately fear moves faster than facts. 🙁
How do you undo decades of fear from those who have tried to make the most fear 😨
"They chose to scare their audience"
That's the entire problem. When someone convinces you that no one is telling you the truth (but them), you open yourself up to believing all kinds of things that don't pass the common sense test.
And because of that, they totally disregard the things that really could kill them (covid, climate change, etc...) because they've lost any sense of discernment.
"We're all going to effing DIE!!" ... can't argue with that. 🤷♂️
🤣🤣🤣 so true!
Hahaha 😂😂😂
Hello Beau from Misipawistik Cree Nation 🇨🇦😎😁😎
Hello to you, Carrie & to the nation.
sick. Reminds me of the reaction on "The War of the Worlds" radio play by Orson Welles.
That's a basic lack of English literature knowledge. If they had known H.G. Wells had written the original, they wouldn't have panicked. But Welles had to be the centre of attention and rewrite it, changing the intended context.
People who didn’t understand the new tech so were easily panicked. I’ve heard the broadcast and it’s an extraordinary experiment in a new medium but there are plenty of internal events that show it’s not happening in real time. Now we have people without appropriate background being exposed to national security tweets, early releases of scientific data and so on being wrongly interpreted by people who should know they’re not qualified. The current belief that all traditional sources of information are probably deceiving people, and that we’re all knowledgeable enough to decide for ourselves is a major issue. Hearing Jim Jordan and Fauci argue about COVID science, knowing some people will believe the failed coach over the dedicated expert, was painful.
Good morning Beau!
Thanks for the heads-up about the mundanity of this report.
Bright Blessings to everyone, and Happy Wednesday :)
Bright Blessings back at ya. 😃
What? We had a senile, geriatric patient running the White House for the past 4 years-how did that work out?
It’s just sickening....will things ever change?? The “right” is wrong yet again👎🏼
I find when all this BS gets to be too much .... I walk away from any and all social media for a few days ... I find my attitude and well being gets better and more positive than listening to the non stop negativity daily ... try it ... you will be amazed
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Got my first Covid shot in Chicago! Thanks for the info you share, keep up the honorable work🇺🇸
That's the only kind of shot you want to be - especially in Chicago.
Congrats. Hoping to get one this week.
And the battle against misinformation continues. It's like a brush fire, put it out in one area and it pops up in another.
Had someone tell me that there are two main emotions that drive us as humans. Fear and Love. All others fall under these two categories.
At our core it's really true.
It's been my observation that most or all anger is rooted in fear.
@@weebunny Exactly.Couldn't agree more.
Why do I get the feeling there's a ® or ™ mark next to most of those tweets? This Should Scare You (®GOP), We're All Going to F'ing Die (™Fox "news")
Chasing distances. The harder you chase, the further away they go. Don't chase hard...just wait for the opportunity and then spring some facts. They will discount those facts almost automatically the first few times, but if it keeps happening..ya got a chance.
Re-Convincing the already convinced is a low probability exercise.
There is a sizeable number of the population that are frightened of their own shadow and it’s sad seeing how easy they are to manipulate by people using that fear to gain power, influence and wealth.
It really sounds like a tweet they could have tweeted last year, or the year before, and could tweet again next year too.
Yeah you could cut and paste that all the way back to the early 50s lol
The one flaw in this tactic is the people that are easily put into 'fear mode' DO NOT listen to facts.
That's why you have to be patient, let them actually voice their fears and vent out their terror before trying to help them with facts.
If they're actually terrified about nuclear war which is terrifying, you could actually help them build a personal fallout shelter, or assess the community level emergency shelter locations, and help improve those.
As something positive to do to address their fears in reality, and while doing that talk to them about facts.
If you immediately cut in and say they're fear is unfounded without letting them vent out that fear first, you will never get anywhere reasonable.
Improving your local emergency shelter spaces however is a cause that can get them thinking rationally.
Everyone 40 or older spent a few decades with the media feeding us so much fear mongering about nuclear war, we all thought that we'd be dead before the turn of the century.
We had plans on where to meet our friends in case of ground invasion.
Lots of people built fallout shelters.
I'm in Colorado. We didn't build as many, with two air force bases, Cheyenne Mountain, and Rocky Flats and Rocky Mountain Arsenal, sites where chemical and nuclear weapons were manufactured we all assumed we'd be targeted by multiple nuclear warheads and hoped to die in the initial blast, and not be the unlucky survivors in a larger radius.
When Sting came out with his anti cold war song, people actually questioned whether or not Russian citizens actually loved their children too.
That's how much fear propaganda we'd been fed.
With stupid advice like in case of nuclear bombing, try hiding under your school desk... As if that would help.
However a decent number of emergency shelters were built or upgrades put on buildings like schools.
@@carrieullrich5059 Oh, I agree with you, but what part of "they DO NOT listen to facts" didn't you understand.
The way to a Republican’s heart is through their *amygdala.*
Thank goodness We The People have your voice, honesty and insight 🌹
My brother likes to post memes that have been proven to be false. When I make the simple comment 'I'm not convinced', he challenges me to fact-check. Granted, in the past, I have fact-checked a lot of his posts when they are so obviously false. Then, when I do, he rails on me for fact-checking. He sees no problem in tossing this stuff out there. He says it's 'interesting'. Right. The problem is that he became a respected educator, and many of his past students look to him for guidance. Tough to have to snooze your own brother on FB (I don't use Twitter), but I had to for my own mental health.
Same boat here, my brother is a history teacher at the state university level. He’s always posting fake news, he’s a former DI and a silver star recipient so he’s someone people generally respect. I’ll fact check him and he’ll call my fact checking fake because he doesn’t agree with the website so I’ll ask for a website he likes to fact check his stuff with, then he’ll claim the site has been hacked when I use it to prove him wrong. He tells me he knows better than most that facts and history are subjective and written by the victors not necessarily those who want to preserve the truth. He’s in his 50s, I’m afraid we’ll never reconnect.
@@soulesslemming sad & scary. Hope he has a "road to Damascus" moment. For his sake & yours.
I read an article in some psychology journal recently that posited critical thinking skills were *measurably undeveloped to the point of matching illiteracy numbers* in subsets of people whose primary experience in studying a book came from Sunday School
Yes.
I'm actually happy that so many people are paying attention. This means that more people will be spreading the correct information too. I'm being optimistic but hey, 4/20. gotta think better of the world and then push for it to be better.
Why do I keep getting flashbacks to 'THE WAR OF THE WORLDS' ?!
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they're afraid of their own shadows
When they see their own shadows, they cross to the other side of the street.
What are they afraid of though? People with as much power as those in power have that lie on a regular basis. That prove through their actions that their motivation is to KEEP power.. to keep those in power, in power.
I know what fear does personally. It will get you to do or say anything. Fear is a monster it is hard to control. Let us combative fear with truth and compassion. I am saddened to know the state or nation is in. However love conquers all.
In 60 years of life, I have seen no evidence that "love conquers all". It is a nice sentiment, but that is all it is. Love is a better personal choice, but it cannot protect you from the consequences of other people's choices. Every death from covid disproves your statement. So does every mass shooting, every person killed by police, every suicide, every abused/neglected child, every houseless person, every mentally ill person, every hungry person.
Why does StratCom even have a twitter account? Why would they post this statement on it? I can't see any benefit to having done this.
I've tried this with family members. They don't want context. Reality can't possibly disagree with them.
I have been seeing this nuclear nonsense all day on Dutch twitter.
Now I know what it is I know how to answer.
I saw a thread on a right wing conservative leaning site the other day, titled "What to do when the truth is wrong", it had millions of hits. Kinda lets you in on how these people think.
What the...... that's a contradiction if there's ever one. If the truth is wrong, then it's not the truth in the first place.
I don't think I really want to know, but some part of me with boundless curiosity wants to know where you found such gem of a title...
@@Marewig wish I could remember, I was randomly browsing, once I saw that my brain kinda locked up
Good Morning Beau!
Unfortunately I've long resigned to viewing my Father's convictions as a kind of irrevocable brain damage. You give him facts and he just kind of nods and you can tell that he is immediately rejecting them.
Unfortunately, it's really hard to alleviate fears once they are brought up and especially with the way that the right utilizes those fears constantly. When I have the bandwidth to do responses, I try to counter the fear and lies that my representative is constantly spreading in order to obfuscate the fact that he's doing nothing to actually help the people he is representing.
"The purpose of the Diplomatic Corps is to maintain tensions just short of war" (Keith Laumer)
Diplomacy is war by other means.
The purpose of the Diplomatic corps is to decrease tensions so that war is not an outcome
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+1
Unfortunately, even when you try to explain something with hardline facts, their cognitive dissonance automatically responds with "how do you know?" And you could easily respond with "how do YOU know"
Happens with neoliberals too. It's exhausting.
Facts. Thank you Beau.
The repubs have always felt that keeping people scared is a good strategy for control. I laugh in their general direction.
I like your rewrite. 🍀
It must be a good strategy, the Dems have adopted it for over a decade now
Why the hell is STRATCOM tweeting? Twitter is notoriously crazy and unhinged. If STRATCOM wants to communicate they should use official channels. So no not scared by the content of the tweet but they could easily anticipated the reaction so an overview of who decided to use twitter needs to be done.
Exactly! Twitter and official statements concerning nuclear weapons is a bizarre mix. Sort of Dr. Strangelove become real. God help us all if the senior officers at STRATCOM consider Twitter an appropriate forum!
Just when I thought I couldn't roll my eyes any harder at the right wing media
With regards to this vid - a day or two ago, I chastised Tulsi on her broadcast in here about scaring people about a Nuclear war, yep she was fear mongering.
Those of us who lived during the Cold War are like, "Oh, this again."
Surni, yeah we lived through moments that we were told brought us close. Looking back & having more info I don't believe they were being accurate when we were told that. Just like when they said getting under our desks in school woild save us.
Sounds rainy in BeauLand 🌧️
Last night’s rain for him, today’s snow for me, ugh.
Thank you! I appreciate your sharing your knowledge. It would take me years to be where you are. I just don’t have the aptitude or experience, and I’m so glad you do. And I’m much older!
Funny to see the "glass parking lot" crowd freak out over nukes after cheering when Trump sought more excuses to use nukes. Hell, he even wanted to nuke hurricanes.
Counter this idea:
Why don't I appeal to their fear, except point them in a better direction with it?
I did hear this suggested once as a strategy to counter anti-vax sentiments (heard pre-covid) - you counter by getting parents scared of what measles, etc could do to their kids, so that the more imminent, realistic fear outweighs the unrealistic one.
It’s a pretty cynical strategy, and I don’t know if it’s recommended by those who actually know how do deradicalize people... but I can’t deny it makes a lot of sense to me. Especially as a short-term tactic for a specific problem.
I won't panic till Slim Pickens shows up.
Yeehaw! What a ride!
Once again thank you for your input on something that is blown WAY out of proportion. I only follow 3-4 sources. Unless there is something happening live local, I just wait to hear from you or the few other sources. I cannot take anymore of the fear and scare tactics. I appreciate your time. Thank you and your family
I sincerely appreciate having a rational and informative voice in a vast sea of click bait and the "news" equivalent of shock jocks.
I may finally be starting to get through to my right-wing family, even if it is on just one subject. That subject: universal healthcare. This is an extemely long post, but this is my story behind it.
I have posted mentions of this on this channel before, but I should say it again for this. I left the US over a year ago, and part of my leaving required having to get traveler's insurance, which, in the country I am now (those who have read my comments with any regularity would know it), includes health insurance. For one year of coverage, it cost me a one-time payment of about $480 - and now that I am in my second year, the cost has increased, but it stayed under $500. When I shared that information to my right-wing parents, my mother was shocked, because that is how much she pays for both of them...per month...and my father is a disabled veteran.
Long before I finally left (and I was on better speaking terms with them), I had gotten into actual meaningful discussions with my mother on various policies. I was able to discuss economic ones with my father (there seemed to be a time when I thought I was getting through that the trade war was NOT the way to hit China's economy - I have to speak "right-wing" to them, him especially), but the more personal ones were with my mother. I told her about how all of the things about private health insurance - the American model at least - are purposefully designed to yield the worst possible outcomes, and those same outcomes stretch over into their own personal finances and economics. I had to hammer on about how she works at a bank (in their mortgage department, which is at least partially related and/or connected to homeowners insurance as well). I even brought up how she would not use her auto insurance policy after my father damaged his car. I had to walk her through how auto insurance companies are able to report not just profits, but massive profits. Then, I compared that to how both of them refuse to go to the doctor and why (to save the effort for anyone else, there is literally no difference between the various insurance companies - the type of insurance does not matter at all, the methods used and end results are exactly the same).
One would think that because she works in a bank department with close ties to such practices would raise some awareness of it, but evidently when you've embraced some kind of tribalism (and while by no means exclusive, it is predominantly amongst the right-wing), you just don't.
Then, I shared my experiences using the healthcare system in the country I am now. It is a mostly private system (there is a public system for citizens, and most seem to use it - I am an non-naturalized immigrant and do not qualify for it), so it comes with some sizable costs. Even so, such costs are still significantly lower than in the US, and I got better results from the very few times I had to get care (mostly for a few minor workplace injuries - got full coverage for those, no denials or shortings at all). Sharing my experiences has at least gotten my mother to finally start questioning why the US system is the way it is, and that maybe, it should be changed to something more progressive.
No, the healthcare system in the country I am in is not universal - it still has quite a few flaws (much of them due to it being mostly private) - but when compared to the US, it functionally is.
The fact that I experienced what I have during the full force of the pandemic and afterwards (because the country I am in is one of the few that truly beat it) has probably helped highlight the differences and faults of the American model and (I might be getting overly optimistic here) bring about the possible change of mind. And just recently, I received word that my father was finally diagnosed as fully diabetic, and he now has to take insulin. With that, my mother now sees firsthand how the manufacturers of it keep marking up the price...just because they can do it. I like to think that this might be the wedge that finally broke through the crack I formed in her right-wing wall and foundation, but that remains to be seen (they have not been getting along that well for the past decade or so - she is finally reaching the end of her tolerance tolerance his bad habits - so for all I know, she might want to see him just drop dead).
Back during our earlier discussions about the subject, I had to bring up how she hates her bosses and some of her coworkers, and I got her to talk about why she stayed - and the first reason she brought up was the health insurance. With that, I took her through the hypothetical universal healthcare and asked her if she would stay if she did not have to worry about losing it. When she said, "No, I would not, I would leave," I told her:
"And THAT is why they defend that. That is what keeps you as just a disposable cog, because if they can't threaten you with that noose around your neck, the only other option they have to keep you around is to pay you more. That private insurance is why your pay is as low as it is, and why the last days of a one-income household were wiped out when the 2007 financial crisis happened."
From the last update about my parents that I got from the relatives I still get along with, the right-wing grip on them - or at least the grip on my mother - looks to finally be at least shaken. It is not much, but I will take what I can get, and hopefully, I can grow something from there.
And one last detail, when my father finally had to start taking insulin, I brought up a family we had known since I and my older brothers were kids. One of their sons has had diabetes his whole life, and it has always been a motivator for me to try to maintain at least SOMETHING resembling a healthy diet (it is still a work in progress, sadly). So when my mother finally experienced the price hikes for herself, I said:
"How do you think his mother has felt about it? She has been witnessing this happen for DECADES, and she's an elementary school teacher. She has undoubtedly been living in fear that one day, she and her family will not be able to get him his insulin. And that fear is EXACTLY what private medicine - or at the very least, private manufacturers and insurance providers - want you to feel, just like how cartels leave the people around living in fear should they not provide 'protection fees,' or in the case of the US, 'insurance premiums.' Do you really want to live in fear THAT much? Do you want her to possibly one day experience the dread and terror of consigning him to die because they can no longer afford the literal life-saving medicine of his? Because THAT is what the US system promotes: fear and terror."
Yes, this is all anecdotal, and feel free to take it with however much salt you feel is needed, but this has been the case with me.
I may have been talking with my right-wing family a lot less over the past few years, but now that I am experiencing what I had been advocating for (again, I still have issues with the healthcare system I am now in, but it is still leagues better than the US's), their talking points are finally starting to be exposed as just that, talking points. As exacerbating as it is and can be, do not completely sever ties with your right-wing family, no matter how tempting it may be to do so (the thought keeps crossing my mind whenever they try to bring their talking points back - not that they have ever succeeded with them).
Health care in the US is the thing that addles my mind the most! Lose your job and you have no health care? Just ridiculous! Utterly absurd the very concept. When I hear what people are paying to insurance companies every month I just shake my head. These are the same people that can't understand high taxes in countries that have universal care.
David , thank you for your long post. You make two very good points. As someone who also types long posts you made me feel better about writing them. Hope for your mother & father.
Thanks for sharing your family's experience and your progress with them. It helps gives hope that perseverance, understanding and patience can help break down the walls of propaganda and talking points. I'm one of the few people who can afford to not cut off family members no matter how out there their beliefs are (helps that most of them aren't in the US), but from the comments I see online, it seems to be a losing battle for many people.
If you're in a developed country as well, I was wondering if you ever tried checking the local prices on insulin and converting that to USD? Maybe it would also be more food for thought for your parents. I hope you can continue your discussions with your parents into the future.
and now with hard to digest gmo cry1 proteins in many staple crops, dusted with roundup, with people eating at odd times of the day.....you will see chronic disease increase, auto immune diseases increase, cancers increase, autism increase, pysch problems increase, etc. etc. etc. ....all because of poor foods stacked with gmo's, chemicals, and preservatives..... creating bad gut biomes......but they have expensive pills for all of it.....did you see these new psych drugs prices.....hummmmm?
Poor scared people...they must be completely insane - I have heard COVID can cause sever mental illness.
I have a scenario for you, I recently posted a comment about how grateful I am to have been vaccinated back in December and a got a reply from someone saying "tick tock, it was nice knowing you". I replied expressing my sorrow that he lives in fear. And again I got the "tick tock" reply, so I told him I was going to explain a theory that I haven't heard from the Right but one that was based in science. I explained to him that I work with some of the smartest MDs in the country (subjective opinion) and that given the high rate of long term effects from covid, could covid possibly be a virus released by big pharma to get as many people as possible dependent on long term medication. I did this with the intention of trying to get him to rethink vaccines. Not sure if this makes me an a^^hole or just a person who's watched people die all year so I've lost my patience with the willfully ignorant. Probably both. He stopped replying though, hopefully I gave him food for thought.
In 1938 Orson Welles had to adapt a sci-fi novel and hire actors to get this far.
Fear- forget everything and run/face everything and rise
Howdy there Beau
Love the way you think Beau!!!
A lie can travel the world before the truth can get her boots on
They're angling for the dementia approach? "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV"
Pot, meet kettle.
problem is, I think my brother is mostly afraid of being ostracized by his religious group more than anything these people are peddling. and he is probably right, if he goes against them on this kind of thing they will.
Is he afraid to think for himself? Why doeshe need their validation?
Another excellent take
I have know desire what so ever to reach my right wing family. I had nothing to do with them way before trump ever come along.
@Rock MetalGoddess that’s my take on it to. At my age I don’t have energy to spare Lol
Social media these days is making a killing off fear, hate, anxiety, and paranoia
Good stuff
Fourth!!! 💐👍🏾
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May the fourth be with you.
@@rogerstarkey5390 😄 Nothing like a Star Wars joke to get you going in the morning!
@@d123mahesh2 hello Mahesh. How are you & yours today. May the fourth is coming up soon. There is a different play on numbers today.
@@tombrown8800 True. How are you doing? Lovely weather today. Need to do a lil bit of indoor gardening today. I harvested the Cilantro. It was wonderful!
Capitalising on fear and not providing any context seems to the right wing's entire policy.
Context would spoil most of their narratives. So would backing up their stories with references to primary sources.
I like Beau. I wish I were his next door neighbor. We need more people like him in this world.
As always, good to know.