Great vid. Going to change the tfi and was a little hesitant since I have to loosen the distributor and throw off timing. But after watching this I have no doubt I’ll get it back on 10°. Thanks!!!!
Mr. Palmer just wanted to say thanks! I came across this vid and picked up the same innova timing light and set my timing on my 88 lx 5.0 today! Shes running like a top now! Before I had no acceleration and hesitation. Your 1 wire alternator vid also helped me out over the winter. I got the same summit alt and installed. You're vids are great!!! Thanks again.
I was real anxious at the thought of attempting this on the '89 GT convertible I just got, but this video was so well laid out and explained, I'm excited to actually go out and do it! I'm going to start shopping for the proper tools ASAP!
A stock Fox body motor loves 12-13 initial. If you have traditional aluminium heads you can go to 14-17 initial. I Just put some TFS 11r 190s in. These heads like LESS timing than stock. I went from 10 degrees initial to 9 initial and made more power.
Stock from the factory is 10 degrees but an easy free HP mod is to bump the initial timing to 12-14 degrees BTC. Mine is running at 14 at the moment and it seems to love it.
Nice video and good info but I noticed you did a AC/Air Pump delete would you know which belt your using because all the autoparts stores by me don't have the slightest clue on which belt do I need?
You need a Dayco 5060720 - Order from Amazon, Advanced Auto, Summit ($30.99) ect. Belt, Poly Rib, Serpentine, 6-Rib, 72.00 in. Length - deletes air pump and air conditioner
What belt did you use to bypass the ac and smog and did you get the power steering relocate bracket and move it up to where the ac was ? I have already gotten rid of the smog and has a pulley but it’s broke and walks the belt to the back and the previous owner took out the ac stuff so want to remove the pump sell it maybe for $25 if anyone might be interested but been fighting to find a belt and read conflicting info on if any belt will work and if the P/S needs to be moved up etc
.Pop open the hood of your car. Make sure you have engaged the parking brake and that the vehicle is off. Step 2 Locate the path of your serpentine belt. If you are unsure the of the path, look under your hood for a diagram or in your owner's manual. Follow the path with the piece of string. Step 3 With the string tightly wrapped around the correct path of the serpentine belt according to the diagram in your owner's manual, mark the area on the string with a marker where it completely wraps around. Measure the length of string it took to wrap around the path of the serpentine belt. Purchase a belt one size smaller than the size you measured. The actual belt will have tension on it, whereas the string doesn't. For example, if you measured 80 inches, purchase a belt that is 79 1/2 inches.
What cam is in your car? I have an E303 with 2200-2400 stall converter and it has surging / stalling issues. Had to bump idle up to around 950-1k just to keep it running without stalling. Was wondering if timing was too low but it looks to be about 12-14
@@djdev3077 if the gun is set on 10 degrees then the mark on the balancer should be right on zero . If the gun is set on zero the the mark on the balancer should be right on 10 degrees!
Great video, might wanna tell the viewers because you dont have your A/C anymore its piece of cake to loosen the distributor bolt,when all that stuff is in the way a distributor wrench is almost mandatory (specially if someone else tightened the heck out of the bolt), on another note not sure how you got away with having that fan with that alternator, my god those stock alternators are incredible weak,i have 2 of these cars,my 91 since new,one of the first things i did was slap a 160 amp alt on it,i installed it the correct way with the big wire and the fuse inline, big difference in the charging department,i got the alternator from a V6 mustang at the wrecking yard,heck of a deal.
Hey Mr. Palmer, its Mr. Palmer. I thought you cut the car off and then install the plug. Is that not correct? Just curious because I rebuilt my motor with an E303 Camshaft, new pistons, rings, beatings and ive got a strange knock or pre detonation. About to do the timing gun tomorrow from your instructions. Hope you or someone else can respond relatively quick. Thanks!
KP - great to hear your built that engine yourself. That E303 cam is a very good choice. They sound amazing. I'm running a Trick Flow cam (Track Max) Stock timing is 10 BTDC. With that cam it might like 12 BTDC better, give it a try!
@@JeffPalmerJWP hey so I got the timing done perfect and did a base idle reset. I am having a knock on the valves. Pulled them and undid the torque to a bit lower. I had em torqued to 25ft pounds and bumped it down to 20 ft pounds. Was thinking the rockers were too tight. Think this will fix my knock?
I’ve set the timing where I want it but once I re connect the spout connector and check the timing again it’s off by a lot any advice on this? Not sure if this is normal
I set it exactly the way you do it in the video but when I reinstall the spout connector it jumps up a few degrees. If I pull the spout out, it sits exactly where I set it. Why does this happen? Is it normal?
@@stevealvi2239 no worries, if you need some help with basic maintainence stuff on a foxbody, check out brew2l hes got some decent vids that show you common problems with them and fixes for them as well.
Bottom gear on distributor turned. Mines was to closer to the left before I changed it, then when installed new distributor mines almost same position as his now from sitting it in.
Set timing at 10 degrees BTDC - mark harmonic balancer at 10 degrees with a white or yellow marker. Try 8 or 12 degrees it you want to. My car runs best at 10 degrees.
Hello dear sir, you are wonderful in your practical lessons and theory well, sir. To me a question. Please answer honestly and sincerely. I have a 1990 model car, an American Marquise. New friend and old follower, my name is North Sultan
thanks for the video man I just came for the LMR timing video yours is 100X better haha :)
Thanks Andrew
This is the best video on how to time your fox body I have ever seen great job
Thanks "SF" really appreciate the comment!
Yeah I have to agree, the LMR video was not very educational lol. Thank you sir!
Great vid. Going to change the tfi and was a little hesitant since I have to loosen the distributor and throw off timing. But after watching this I have no doubt I’ll get it back on 10°. Thanks!!!!
Mr. Palmer just wanted to say thanks! I came across this vid and picked up the same innova timing light and set my timing on my 88 lx 5.0 today! Shes running like a top now! Before I had no acceleration and hesitation. Your 1 wire alternator vid also helped me out over the winter. I got the same summit alt and installed. You're vids are great!!! Thanks again.
Thanks S&T - inspired to make more videos.
I was real anxious at the thought of attempting this on the '89 GT convertible I just got, but this video was so well laid out and explained, I'm excited to actually go out and do it! I'm going to start shopping for the proper tools ASAP!
Im gonna do mine in a bit I’m excited.
You can do it! Mark harmonic balancer at 10 degrees BTDC with a white or yellow marker. Pull spout connector out and set timing. Good luck
This is the best timing video I could find 👍🏼
Glad I could help!
Great video it made me feel like I can actually do this on my own. Thank you
Thanks AG - I know you can do it!
this video was the most descriptive ive seen thanks
Thanks DS - really appreciate that!
Great video!
Yes sir, ty for sharing your knowledge
My pleasure!!
badass video
Thanks for the comment Marq
very very well explained thank you!
Great video ..
A stock Fox body motor loves 12-13 initial. If you have traditional aluminium heads you can go to 14-17 initial. I Just put some TFS 11r 190s in. These heads like LESS timing than stock. I went from 10 degrees initial to 9 initial and made more power.
Stock from the factory is 10 degrees but an easy free HP mod is to bump the initial timing to 12-14 degrees BTC. Mine is running at 14 at the moment and it seems to love it.
Totally agree Tony!
With the cam degreed in the balancer lines up on zero?
Thank you for this
No problem 😊Glad I could help
Nice video and good info but I noticed you did a AC/Air Pump delete would you know which belt your using because all the autoparts stores by me don't have the slightest clue on which belt do I need?
You need a Dayco 5060720 - Order from Amazon, Advanced Auto, Summit ($30.99) ect. Belt, Poly Rib, Serpentine, 6-Rib, 72.00 in. Length - deletes air pump and air conditioner
Greetings and thanks from Maryland!!🙏👍
What belt did you use to bypass the ac and smog and did you get the power steering relocate bracket and move it up to where the ac was ? I have already gotten rid of the smog and has a pulley but it’s broke and walks the belt to the back and the previous owner took out the ac stuff so want to remove the pump sell it maybe for $25 if anyone might be interested but been fighting to find a belt and read conflicting info on if any belt will work and if the P/S needs to be moved up etc
.Pop open the hood of your car. Make sure you have engaged the parking brake and that the vehicle is off.
Step 2
Locate the path of your serpentine belt. If you are unsure the of the path, look under your hood for a diagram or in your owner's manual. Follow the path with the piece of string.
Step 3
With the string tightly wrapped around the correct path of the serpentine belt according to the diagram in your owner's manual, mark the area on the string with a marker where it completely wraps around.
Measure the length of string it took to wrap around the path of the serpentine belt. Purchase a belt one size smaller than the size you measured. The actual belt will have tension on it, whereas the string doesn't. For example, if you measured 80 inches, purchase a belt that is 79 1/2 inches.
What cam is in your car? I have an E303 with 2200-2400 stall converter and it has surging / stalling issues. Had to bump idle up to around 950-1k just to keep it running without stalling. Was wondering if timing was too low but it looks to be about 12-14
Trick Flow - check for vacuum leaks - set timing at 10 degrees btdc
You can also mark the harmonic at Zero and set the gun at 10 degrees to check it
That my question is the gun set at 10 to get 10 on the harmonic balancer or is it set a 0 to get the 10 to line up
@@djdev3077 if the gun is set on 10 degrees then the mark on the balancer should be right on zero . If the gun is set on zero the the mark on the balancer should be right on 10 degrees!
Great video, might wanna tell the viewers because you dont have your A/C anymore its piece of cake to loosen the distributor bolt,when all that stuff is in the way a distributor wrench is almost mandatory (specially if someone else tightened the heck out of the bolt), on another note not sure how you got away with having that fan with that alternator, my god those stock alternators are incredible weak,i have 2 of these cars,my 91 since new,one of the first things i did was slap a 160 amp alt on it,i installed it the correct way with the big wire and the fuse inline, big difference in the charging department,i got the alternator from a V6 mustang at the wrecking yard,heck of a deal.
He probably had it rebuilt, when i rebuilt my 84, i had the amperage on mine bumped to 140
Hey Mr. Palmer, its Mr. Palmer. I thought you cut the car off and then install the plug. Is that not correct? Just curious because I rebuilt my motor with an E303 Camshaft, new pistons, rings, beatings and ive got a strange knock or pre detonation. About to do the timing gun tomorrow from your instructions. Hope you or someone else can respond relatively quick. Thanks!
KP - great to hear your built that engine yourself. That E303 cam is a very good choice. They sound amazing. I'm running a Trick Flow cam (Track Max) Stock timing is 10 BTDC. With that cam it might like 12 BTDC better, give it a try!
@@JeffPalmerJWP thanks a bunch! Doing it today!
@@JeffPalmerJWP hey so I got the timing done perfect and did a base idle reset. I am having a knock on the valves. Pulled them and undid the torque to a bit lower. I had em torqued to 25ft pounds and bumped it down to 20 ft pounds. Was thinking the rockers were too tight. Think this will fix my knock?
I’ve set the timing where I want it but once I re connect the spout connector and check the timing again it’s off by a lot any advice on this? Not sure if this is normal
Same lol
Try setting less then what you want and it be on your mark
It’s normal. What you are setting is initial timing. When you plug the spout connector back in, the ecu takes over.
I set it exactly the way you do it in the video but when I reinstall the spout connector it jumps up a few degrees. If I pull the spout out, it sits exactly where I set it. Why does this happen? Is it normal?
Yes it is normal, spout connector unplugged allows you to set base timing, plug it back in and the computer takes back over
Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
@@stevealvi2239 no worries, if you need some help with basic maintainence stuff on a foxbody, check out brew2l hes got some decent vids that show you common problems with them and fixes for them as well.
Why’s your distributor turned soo far to the right? I notice a lot of cars it points at driver head light
Bottom gear on distributor turned. Mines was to closer to the left before I changed it, then when installed new distributor mines almost same position as his now from sitting it in.
It would like 12-14 better without a doubt. And the throttle response would be more responsive.
Well Done
Ok,question is the gun set at 0 or 10 degrees,that part nobody shows
Set timing at 10 degrees BTDC - mark harmonic balancer at 10 degrees with a white or yellow marker. Try 8 or 12 degrees it you want to. My car runs best at 10 degrees.
Hello dear sir, you are wonderful in your practical lessons and theory well, sir. To me a question. Please answer honestly and sincerely. I have a 1990 model car, an American Marquise. New friend and old follower, my name is North Sultan
Wtf