The History of Nuzlockes

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  • čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
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    Nuzlocking is a pillar Pokemon community, but how did it begin? Where did it evolve? I'm here to break down the complete history of the Nuzlocke.
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    Intro: 0:00
    Before Nuzlockes: 1:57
    The first Nuzlocke: 2:50
    The early years: 5:38
    The first recorded Nuzlockes: 7:35
    Early Romhacks: 10:24
    Nuzlocke Variants: 11:20
    The birth of the Hardcore Nuzlocke: 14:27
    Blue and Crystal Kaizo: 15:45
    The Jaiden Video: 17:27
    Jaidens impact: 21:07
    Emerald Kaizo: 22:33
    Hardcore Plus and an evolving Meta: 32:12
    The Ludlocke: 34:31
    Return to Dark Rising: 40:18
    Radical Red: 41:25
    The future: 42:43
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Komentáře • 1,6K

  • @jaidenanimations
    @jaidenanimations Před rokem +9891

    It’s an honor to be considered part of history in a game and community I love so much :’)
    Incredible video Wolfey!!!!

  •  Před rokem +4608

    I still remember coming home from school and checking every day if there was a new chapter of the Nuzlocke comic.
    Turns out I was onto something lol
    Also massive shoutout to ExcoessivelyAve who was the only other person doing Nuzlockes regularly on Twitch when I started. A huge part of my initial small community were people that had come over from collaborating with him and he's still a fantastic friend today.
    This video was a great walk down memory lane :)

    • @stefvalk7452
      @stefvalk7452 Před rokem +50

      Not surprised to see the probably best nuzlocker in the world here

    • @berugitv3562
      @berugitv3562 Před rokem +5

      omg pokemon challenges hi !!!😸☝️

    • @jakebullock3357
      @jakebullock3357 Před rokem

      Bat chest, so based

    • @owenaspinall2046
      @owenaspinall2046 Před rokem +13

      CZcams comment, based

    • @early2000skid
      @early2000skid Před rokem +7

      I still check up on it from time to time... but it's been like 5 years now I think. It's a shame too, I remember when the author had Pokemon Hardmode, Speedrun and Space Cat running at the same time. Feels like ages ago now. Still tho, maybe after a long hiatus they'll return someday. Afterall, this is all happening for a reason.

  • @shadypenguinn
    @shadypenguinn Před rokem +2946

    Really humbled to be included here. Shadylocke holds a special place in my heart, even more so now. ❤
    I watched the whole video twice now, another banger, Wolfe!

    • @officialblue967
      @officialblue967 Před rokem +16

      love your content shady,, i was very excited to see you featured here

    • @brandon14715
      @brandon14715 Před rokem +15

      Crazy, I remember watching that original shadylocke all those years ago. Amazing to see how far you've come

    • @mikhailsevillano7074
      @mikhailsevillano7074 Před rokem +28

      Your soul link with the king who must not be named was the reason why I fell inlove with pokemon all over again.

    • @bernieswim
      @bernieswim Před rokem +3

      Shady da GOAT

    • @Glacenair
      @Glacenair Před rokem +3

      Well deserved Mr. Penguinn

  • @GameboyLuke
    @GameboyLuke Před rokem +1535

    seeing all of these old thumbnails, especially of my own nuzlockes really took me back, it’s so cool to be a part of the nuzlocke history alongside so many of my friends and peers.
    sick video wolfe, keep it up 🙏

  • @Haydunn
    @Haydunn Před rokem +2791

    Appreciate the shout out my friend 🙏 honored to part of history. This video was amazing, the editing and work put into this is next level

    • @imaged-
      @imaged- Před rokem +16

      You deserve it I papa

    • @caryprice8243
      @caryprice8243 Před rokem +28

      You deserve the shoutout. Remember watching you back then in high school and it seemed so rare to find Pokémon series

    • @pearcehudson1220
      @pearcehudson1220 Před rokem +8

      A true OG

    • @dylanramirez7274
      @dylanramirez7274 Před rokem +16

      YOURE THE FUCKING GOAT HAYDUNN

    • @Yvernyx
      @Yvernyx Před rokem +5

      You deserve it man, you're an OG

  • @VetNovice
    @VetNovice Před rokem +3037

    Wolfey has become the unofficial Professor Oak of the game in real life. Extremely knowledgeable, fills a compendium of Poke-info, insanely skilled at the game. Beyond champion.

    • @fios4528
      @fios4528 Před rokem +36

      I'd throw JWittz in the running as well

    • @josiahhook1535
      @josiahhook1535 Před rokem +39

      It’s cuz he has the WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE

    • @TheShardsFamily
      @TheShardsFamily Před rokem +47

      He's gonna start asking everyone if they are a boy or a girl

    • @zame-osomething5096
      @zame-osomething5096 Před rokem +28

      @@TheShardsFamily gonna ask people what his grandson’s name is

    • @saadinhalf
      @saadinhalf Před rokem +29

      All I’m saying is JWittz and Gnoggin might be in there…
      Also Wolfey needs to hire a 10 year old to do his work for him before becoming officially a professor

  • @Glace_cakes
    @Glace_cakes Před rokem +678

    Major props to Jan for ditching college to be a Pokémon master

    • @jhammer01
      @jhammer01 Před rokem +9

      Fr

    • @JWillicus
      @JWillicus Před rokem +33

      Just like in the games

    • @Druidddd
      @Druidddd Před rokem +4

      Did he? I thought he's a graduating traffic engineering student tho (?)

    • @MisterHeroman
      @MisterHeroman Před 8 měsíci +1

      Not really a master with those bad takes lmao

  • @Patterrz
    @Patterrz Před rokem +429

    I can't believe I just got exposed like that LMFAO 10:00 i'll never live this down

  • @Drxxyt
    @Drxxyt Před rokem +2916

    This was incredible. So glad to see how far nuzlocking has come. It truly is something special. Thanks for making this project possible

    • @nostylenograce
      @nostylenograce Před rokem +29

      omg my goat

    • @Cardb33
      @Cardb33 Před rokem +35

      The Muhammad Ali of Nuzlockes graces us with his presence.

    • @WolfeyVGC
      @WolfeyVGC  Před rokem +200

      Thanks for all your help!

    • @jpshy1130
      @jpshy1130 Před rokem +7

      @@Cardb33 if he’s Muhammad Ali who is jan

    • @muzz4610
      @muzz4610 Před rokem +20

      @@jpshy1130 Logan Paul

  • @CountofBleck
    @CountofBleck Před rokem +358

    Correction: The first Nuzlocke comic, the Ruby Hard Mode, actually ended with a wipe to Steven. This lead directly into the more story driven Fire Red Nuzlocke, where things REALLY ramped up.

    • @JWillicus
      @JWillicus Před rokem +15

      And the dead White nuzlocke

    • @captainmorgan9149
      @captainmorgan9149 Před rokem +1

      IKR?

    • @TheOneAndOnlyP6
      @TheOneAndOnlyP6 Před rokem +19

      I really don't like how he just glimpsed over the comic

    • @mcnalga
      @mcnalga Před rokem +2

      @@TheOneAndOnlyP6didn’t he say because the comic is problematic now lol

    • @TheOneAndOnlyP6
      @TheOneAndOnlyP6 Před rokem +17

      @@mcnalga I know. Haven't reread the comic for like 10 years but I don't remember any problematic stuff besides some edgy internet humor from the time. Also calling it a bad drawn comic specially after the start of fire red is so disingenuous in my opinion.

  • @videogamefan9992
    @videogamefan9992 Před rokem +130

    slight correction: first hardcore nuzlocke was actually done by marriland back in 2013 in his platinum nuzlocke with the exact same rules as those used in modern hardcore nuzlockes. It definitely wasn't called that at the time though

  • @calebcardinal3867
    @calebcardinal3867 Před rokem +63

    im a little disappointed no mention of marriland?? he made the wedlockes and his nuzlockes were unique, kinda like jaidens video but it wasn't animated it was done while playing, he added a memorial montage after each death and it was nuzlocking done with respect and friendships with his pokemon. definetly up there with patterrz and jaiden

  • @jpshy1130
    @jpshy1130 Před rokem +1003

    I love how even this video has jaiden in the thumbnail because any nuzlocke content has to have it

    • @atlat412
      @atlat412 Před rokem +37

      Well, I mean yeah. Have you seen the amount of views those nuzlockes get? Add on the fact that her channel seems to have a consistent viewer base and this just seems like a smart choice.
      Honestly, I’d argue that using her in the thumbnail makes sense from a video perspective as well. Being as widely viewed as they are with a story-focused style to them I feel emphasizes the point.
      The only thing that would make sense would be to replace her with some Nuzleaf theme.

    • @HomeCookinMTG
      @HomeCookinMTG Před rokem +12

      @@atlat412 From a theming perspective maybe, it was Jaiden's first nuzlocke, but nuzlocke content has been around before that vid came out. I doubt it's the first one, but the first time I saw nuzlocke content on youtube was from a dude named Blacklightattack wayyy back in 2011 on a channel called TGN.

    • @emretroll
      @emretroll Před rokem +2

      Pokémon Challenges and many others entered the chat

    • @jpshy1130
      @jpshy1130 Před rokem +5

      @@atlat412 it was kinda a joke because obv she should be in the video that video basically pioneered the nuzlocke community we know today

    • @atlat412
      @atlat412 Před rokem +2

      @@jpshy1130 Oh no, I knew it was a joke from you. I just felt overanalyzing it for no reason.

  • @VJ-Vice
    @VJ-Vice Před rokem +89

    It should be noted how important Marilland was in that first wave of Nuzlocke playthroughs on CZcams

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 Před 18 dny

      His Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first well documented hardcore Nuzlocke.

  • @noway7774
    @noway7774 Před rokem +329

    It sucks to see how little was actually represented for the pre-Jaiden era of nuzlocking. No Marriland, MunchingOrange, Hardyt3kyoyo. A lot of the early nuzlocking examples are mainly limited to Poketubers who are still relevant today while some of the other big names back then are left to be forgotten. Love all the detail for post-Jaiden era though. I assume xProuty being the first to beat EK deathless happened too late to appear.

    • @garreteddleman7157
      @garreteddleman7157 Před rokem +30

      Marriland's x and y wedlocke was one of my favorites!!!

    • @frostyclouded
      @frostyclouded Před rokem +8

      god hardyt3kyoyo... i haven't heard that name in years. i used to love his videos too, i'm glad to see him mentioned here :')

    • @advenco344
      @advenco344 Před rokem +5

      It’s also worth mentioning BlackLightAttack although he wasn’t exclusively a Pokétuber.

    • @mystereoheart2579
      @mystereoheart2579 Před rokem +44

      yeah im kind of amazed how quickly the 2010s deviantart comic era got passed over! can't blame wolfey because he probably wasnt really aware of those communities but there were a lot of classic nuzlocke comics that were instrumental in spreading interest of the format before youtube really picked up the topic.

    • @YusufC51
      @YusufC51 Před rokem +28

      Tyranitartube as well, I'm surprised that his extreme randomizers were never mentioned despite that Alpha Sapphire Extreme easily could have fit into the rom-hacks or kaizo section.

  • @ExcessivelyAve
    @ExcessivelyAve Před rokem +291

    The Nuzlocke community has come so far since the early days of live Pokemon content, i'm honored that I could be a small part of history.
    People like Jan, Haydunn, Shady, Drew, and many others continue to inspire me. Can't wait to see where Nuzlockes go next!

  • @bowmain1577
    @bowmain1577 Před rokem +324

    I do feel amiss not bringing up Mariland in the history of the nuzloke he is not making much content today, but he made some of the most fun nuzlokes I've ever watched. It was what got me and many others into nuzloking.
    He was the inventor of the wedlocke which is a staple nuzloke variant today and was very popular during the 2010's.
    Anyway, I just want to bring him up as apart of the history, since, at least for me, he was very important.

    • @danishlucario
      @danishlucario Před rokem +62

      Don't forget that he also used the "hardcore nuzlocke" rule format, before it was even called the "hardcore nuzlocke" for his pokemon platinum nuzlocke.

    • @HeracrossTheGreek
      @HeracrossTheGreek Před rokem +57

      This. Marriland was so big and influential back in the day, it's a shame he wasn't done justice in this nevertheless amazing video. You just need to look at how much fanart he received of the pokemon he used in each run to understand his magnitude.

    • @justanotherweirdo11
      @justanotherweirdo11 Před rokem +1

      Definitely

    • @darkessraven
      @darkessraven Před rokem +26

      Plus Marriland was the “first” Pokemon content creator having a full walkthrough of gen 4 back in 2006. He was making videos for his website to provide free guides through the games. Later on, he dive into content creating until around a year before the pandemic which he decided to go back to his roots of focusing on his website.
      He was burned out of making videos as many wanted Nuzlockes which he doesn’t enjoy making anymore. He’s also a traditionalist refusing to do any game breaking mechanics on games so any rom hacks or cheats are a no go to him. He plays with official copies of the games.

    • @slyrich
      @slyrich Před rokem +11

      Seriously as good as this video is Marriland was an instrumental part of why nuzlockes got so big at the end of the day so I just wish I got the recognition he deserves fr

  • @PokeRedstone
    @PokeRedstone Před rokem +215

    Love the whole bit about Shady; he's one of the all time greats. He (and someone who must not be named) really established what Nuzlockes were for a while. They also put the soul link on the map. I think an interesting tidbit a lot of people don't know is that the Soul Link was conceived as a two player version of Marriland's Wedlocke.

    • @SoGVerruckt
      @SoGVerruckt Před rokem +20

      Yeah I'm disappointed they didn't mention this, it's a dark time for the community that almost killed the whole genre.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 Před rokem

      @@SoGVerruckt explain?

    • @SoGVerruckt
      @SoGVerruckt Před rokem +35

      @@stonalisa3729 I don't want to give the person notoriety, but they got in trouble for alleged grooming. They were the largest poketuber at the time. That incident caused the downfall of almost every Poke/nuz channel popular at the time because they all had some drama in this.

    • @theVortex77
      @theVortex77 Před rokem +1

      Im sad but not suprised that he didnt talk about the Core 4

    • @yanreal3600
      @yanreal3600 Před rokem +5

      Yes! I got to know nuzlocks thanks to them, unfortunately all the drama almost ended everything. But the first soul links were so fun!

  • @Cantrona
    @Cantrona Před rokem +102

    Amazing video! Only thing that makes me a bit sad is the lack of mention of Mariland because he was the only person I remember doing nuzlock type content for a chunk of time there. He may not have been the best or the biggest, but he was really consistent for a huge chunk of time when there weren't as many others

    • @sparkywoofwoofUK
      @sparkywoofwoofUK Před 8 měsíci +3

      Mariland basically invented Wedlockes, didn't he?

  • @Mwolf55
    @Mwolf55 Před rokem +61

    As somebody who read the original Pokemon hard mode on release, it's amazing to see how far it's come.

  • @dinisauriogaar9327
    @dinisauriogaar9327 Před rokem +33

    nuzlocke at first: makes the pokemon die to make the bond with them more appreciated
    nuzlocke nowadays: *proceeds to make an explosion team because is the best strategy*

    • @KeinNiemand
      @KeinNiemand Před 3 měsíci

      This is mostly becouse lvl caps

  • @jacobanderson5845
    @jacobanderson5845 Před rokem +233

    Wolfey’s script writing and comedy are so good. “The plan was simple” at 36:30 is such a sly little reference and gave me a good chuckle, and that’s just one of many such moments

    • @kazekamiha
      @kazekamiha Před rokem +1

      When you skip a step...

    • @j_0anna
      @j_0anna Před rokem

      i only just realised this! incredible reference

    • @marmato9332
      @marmato9332 Před rokem +1

      To what

    • @jacobanderson5845
      @jacobanderson5845 Před rokem +4

      @@marmato9332 He’s talking about Ludwig’s run, and Ludwig’s intro and catchphrase for a while was “Boys! The plan is simple!”

  • @brightb5339
    @brightb5339 Před rokem +19

    For people who can see this, I would personally recommend reading the original nuzlocke comic alongside the fire red comic made after it. As long as you go into it knowing there will be dated humor and are okay with that, it's a fun read to see where nuzlockes all started!

    • @jameswulf
      @jameswulf Před měsícem +2

      Yeah, Wolfey was out of line for saying what he did.

  • @synlynx869
    @synlynx869 Před 21 dnem +2

    14:15 „…instead let‘s talk about the other most important thing that happened in 2016“
    The fact that he didn‘t even reference whoever won worlds that year betrays a level of humbleness I cannot hope to attain.

  • @nono-lz9qr
    @nono-lz9qr Před 2 měsíci +5

    Lmao the first example of a hardcore nuzlocke rule set being used was from Marriland’s Pokemon Platinum run. That’s 3 whole years before Jan’s run.
    Also, the OG Nuzlocke comic ended in a failure. Metagross kills Absol before Perish Song can finish, and the rest of the team soon followed.
    So good job on making a history on Nuzlocking only to mess it up and hyper focus on 2020 to the present.

  • @sirenarizzo
    @sirenarizzo Před rokem +26

    TyranitarTube is the goat, his extreme playthroughs are what introduced me to nuzlockes

  • @123pepijn123
    @123pepijn123 Před rokem +10

    Should’ve mentioned Projared and his amazing firered series in I think 2012/2013. For me, that started the nuzlocke hype, earlier than almost every example given in this video.

    • @Cole-xq2tl
      @Cole-xq2tl Před rokem +7

      Probably because ProJared is "problematic" like the early days of internet humor, according to the 🤡 who made this video

  • @planetyeo
    @planetyeo Před rokem +39

    The Nuzlocke forums were an integral part of my childhood. Those edited screenshot runs were peak Pokémon storytelling. Though the FlygonHGs and PokemonChallenges of our day are the best in the sense of gaming challenges, there's just something so nostalgic about those screenshot runs. Where everything happened for a reason.

    • @flanplaysvideogames
      @flanplaysvideogames Před 10 měsíci

      Best fun I ever had on the internet was getting to admin the nuzlocke forums in its very early years.

    • @pokepaar3696
      @pokepaar3696 Před 4 měsíci

      Pokemon challenges that are popular now dont really have the emotional connection with their teams anymore

  • @jaxpool155
    @jaxpool155 Před rokem +117

    This was an incredible retrospective! The only thing I felt wasn't represented well enough was the impact of Nuzlocke comics, specifically those done by Kylee-nim. Myths of Unova got me hooked on the concept of a Nuzlocke, and her rich world-building and incredible art really raised the bar for what a narrative Nuzlocke comic could be. And she was working on it while in Med School! She even created one of the more well-known Fakemon in that comic, Vahirom, a possible idea for what the Tao Trio may have looked like as one Pokemon. Her hard work and dedication to her Nuzlocke and her comic shouldn't be forgotten or overlooked. She's even to this day publishing pages of a sequel comic based on a run she did in B2W2!

    • @globyglob
      @globyglob Před rokem +10

      Dude her comic was what got me into nuzlocking after reading ruby hard mode, sad to see that the most popular early forum content was mostly skipped over for more recent but wolfe definitely had more to talk about with things he was involved in. Just wish that the early community got its flowers.

    • @RPGFanboy14
      @RPGFanboy14 Před rokem +2

      Oh man I remember this comic! The art and story were so good! I fell off reading nuzlocke comics before it concluded so I'll have to go back and read it at some point.

    • @trainzelda1428
      @trainzelda1428 Před rokem +6

      This. I know nuzlockes have been a thing you stream for a decade or so but to me the true "medium" for a nuzlocke is as a webcomic. I feel like they lose something without an original main character and added subplots which was standard practice back then

    • @zephyrias
      @zephyrias Před 3 měsíci

      exactly! webcomics! there's a handful I really enjoyed I made a few back in the day. Myth's of Unova, I gotta go back and read BW comics are my fave.
      Pettyartist (Gen 1 and Gen 2), Yindragon (Kick @SS Firered mode), Landwalker's Yellow Nuzlocke, a few i used to read.
      There's one for a Sinnoh nuzlocke that makes me laugh all the time, the true goat for DelelelWoop, a cherim destorying things with solar beam, and a ref to pokemon quartz with that ugly baro mon. (looked it up its called Babos). that one made me laugh every page, if only I can find it. ;__;

  • @flameosaurus1832
    @flameosaurus1832 Před rokem +26

    I really miss the era where deaths still meant something to most people on emotional levels, and not just feeling sad because of losing a number in an army.

    • @pokepaar3696
      @pokepaar3696 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Yeah. I've been watching Flygon hd and this video made me realize the whole "Name your pokemon to build a bond" is basically out the window.
      I remembere when I did my B2 nuzlocke, when my leavanny died I cheated and brought her back (every time) because I was so attached

  • @frankiehillman
    @frankiehillman Před rokem +67

    This video is some serious Marriland erasure - they not only made the Wedlocke but created some of the first, most popular Nuzlocke series on CZcams! Great video though as always.

    • @prometheustv6558
      @prometheustv6558 Před 18 dny

      Also his Platinum Nuzlocke was probably the first hardcore nuzlocke

  • @QuartzGolem
    @QuartzGolem Před rokem +13

    This is more of a: "History of nuzlockes in content creation" video

    • @Zorua3
      @Zorua3 Před rokem +4

      Yeah, it’s not a “complete history” by any stretch. Way too much focus on modern stuff/“big names.” Also the extreme focus on Jaiden relative to her impact.

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Před rokem

      ​@@Zorua3 Relative to her impact? No one has made nuzlocking more popular than her. Nuzlocke content before and after has even come close to the popularity of her videos. She absolutely deserves a mention, and you're being disingenuous to imply otherwise.

  • @FishyRaverist
    @FishyRaverist Před rokem +46

    As someone who's been part of the nuzlocking community since it's inception, I can't help but feel as though wolfey completely glossed over so much of the history in favour of youtuber clout.

    • @Zorua3
      @Zorua3 Před rokem +19

      You’re absolutely right. Labeling this as a complete history is totally disingenuous.

  • @joltsterk4673
    @joltsterk4673 Před rokem +47

    For being a "History of Nuzlockes" I'm absolutely amazed at how much was just left out of video. Everything before Jaiden's video seems like an afterthought. Pretty much none of the first wave of nuzlockes are talked about, with Marriland, MunchingOrange, Nappy (just becomes someone is a detestable person at best doesn't mean they should be left out of the history of something if they had a major impact on it), and BlackLightAttack being left out.

    • @jameswulf
      @jameswulf Před měsícem +2

      Hell, for me, the comics were even more inspiring. Hale: Emerald Hard Mode was amazing to me as a kid. Nuzlockes would have died off early on if not for the huge comics community. (I definitely agree with what you're saying, too)

    • @samuelrichards5521
      @samuelrichards5521 Před měsícem +2

      Feels like a "history of my youtube account recommending nuzlockes"

  • @christophertrahan868
    @christophertrahan868 Před 11 měsíci +12

    As many others have said. Marriland was actually a huge bump in the Nuzlocke play style gaining variety
    .

  • @MirthfulMikey
    @MirthfulMikey Před rokem +4

    Shout out to my boy Marriland - he created the Wedlocke and implemented a lot of those self imposed challenges before most

  • @rockyjmoon3
    @rockyjmoon3 Před rokem +19

    Fun fact. I was first introduced to Nuzlockes from a webcomic called “Myths of Unova”. And I absolutely loved it.

  • @ROYAL5KATER
    @ROYAL5KATER Před rokem +25

    "Incredibly Haydunn is still making great Pokémon content today" you damn right he is wolf, you damn right.

    • @dylanramirez7274
      @dylanramirez7274 Před rokem

      Dude he’s the GOAT, I name all of my Pokémon after his. My favorite still is Joint the Raticate with a flame orb 😂

  • @SparkBlazeWarriors
    @SparkBlazeWarriors Před rokem +9

    It’s wild how detailed this was and there’s still so much that could be covered.
    I was around the deviantart nuzlocking comic community in the early 2010s and that was a whole thing, and what originally got me inspired to Nuzlocke.
    Marriland’s Wedlockes also probably could have had their own section in Nuzlocking history, that felt like one of the big variants to first get popularized and actually played?
    And while covered in the rom hacks section to an extent, it’s fascinating what optimizations have been made for each game. Like even simple ones like how powerful Guts Raticate/Swellow can be or how Linoone can be made into a consistent E4 sweeper in Emerald. We all probably started by playing mostly normally and not planning too far ahead and now the community’s play has been really pushed to a high level as we all got better and communities continued to grow.

  • @tarabaci
    @tarabaci Před rokem +7

    I was there when Nuzlocke draw his first comic and I loved the message board he builded up. Found some cool people from all around the world there to talk with. I really miss that time.

  • @Mariokemon
    @Mariokemon Před 21 dnem +3

    Nuzlockes used to be personal. You would catch your randomly found teammates, train train them on the wild and trainer pokemon, as you would in any other playthrough, and strategize with what you got to beat the gym leaders.
    In the Marilland days, we grew attached to Fries the Linoone, Peach the Primeape, Ninjarisu the Pachirisu, etc. He treated it like a playthrough or LP. so we would get constant episodes, getting to go on the journey with him, always worried one of our favourite members could die.
    But now, its so formulatic. with the "1 video" format, we cant grow attached to team members. its just another catch. With mono type runs, we already know all the mons they're gonna use. No surprises like Kroma getting Dunsparce in Dark Cave, or Marriland being stuck with Pachirisu over Ralts.
    (Not to mention, it breaks the "first encounter rule", becasue unless two of that type are on a route, you are just running away from encounters until u get the only 1 of that type. You aren't doing a nuzlocke at this point. its a Mono run with permadeath)
    Also, the "hard core nuzlocke" monicer is redundant. When i first heard it, i thought there'd be super extra hard rules, but its the exaxt same rules Marriland had been doing from Platinum onward, and he never called it anything other than Nuzlocke.
    But the absolute WORST part of the modern nuzlocker is EV training/stat exp. Maxing your stats PERFECTLY makes things super boring to watch. "monferno 1shot all of roark's pokemon" No shit it did, you maxed its attack evs. In Marriland days, he trained Chimchar as you normally would. On the trainers getting to Orburgh City, getting the evs you'd naturally get. And yes, he'd do SOME exp grinding in the late game for Elite Four or high level gym leaders, but it was mostly a "what gives highest exp" thing, as opposed to "what will give me the best evs for the job". Jaiden didn't fight all those marril BECAUSE it gave HP evs, she did it because its a water type that Magneton could easily kill.
    I just really miss the personal feel of nuzlockers like Marilland.

    • @Ihavethekenergy
      @Ihavethekenergy Před 4 dny

      Honestly wish Marriland got a bit more recognition in this video

  •  Před rokem +34

    Amazing video! I was really hoping you’d talk about TyranitarTube’s Extreme Randomizer Nuzlocke series. They’re modded version of main series games that have a completely brand new stories, characters and sometimes even Pokémon. They’re some of my favorites, but just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to different types of Nuzlockes.

  • @christophertrahan868
    @christophertrahan868 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Damn. I made a couple comments. As many others have said Marriland was vital to the growth of lockes even though this video tries to leave him out.

  • @winterofsilver
    @winterofsilver Před rokem +19

    I got into nuzlockes by watching Marilland play through Emerald, Platinum, and Heart Gold as a kid!! Awesome history video man - its extremely nostalgic looking back at all of these historical events :)

  • @GameMaster-sh7tr
    @GameMaster-sh7tr Před rokem +35

    29:21 Made me laugh so hard, the random sans reference and Wolfe wheezing like a tire pump is such an hilarious combination

  • @backpackerraden6268
    @backpackerraden6268 Před rokem +34

    Great video as they have been recently. Really well researched and detailed.
    I would dispute the hardcore nuzlockes origins with Pokemon Challenges. Marriland was using those rules for his 2013 Platinum Nuzlocke run. But Jan was the first to popularize these rules.

    • @blazechaos212
      @blazechaos212 Před rokem

      Interesting. Guess they were no longer notorious since it wasn't brought up

    • @backpackerraden6268
      @backpackerraden6268 Před rokem +4

      @@blazechaos212 Well tbh I don't think Marilland's nuzlocke is nearly as well remembered as his creation of the Wedlocke. And it was never called the hardcore nuzlocke

    • @mattm6147
      @mattm6147 Před rokem +3

      the marriland erasure!

  • @johnjolly6913
    @johnjolly6913 Před rokem +9

    I remember watching Jan at work during the finale. It was one of those moments you’ll just remember forever.

  • @therranolleo468
    @therranolleo468 Před rokem +7

    I just love how the original era of Nuzlockes emphasizes so much on bonding with unfamiliar pokemons and their deaths becoming so emotionally draining for the players to the GODLIKE-level of gameplay of hardcore nuzlockes where every pokemon is just a tool for the player to clear the challenge. you can catch a pokemon, name it something, feed it steroids, and have it explode on the gym leader's ace just so you can clear it easier, or sack a pokemon that you've spent so much time with away in order to save another pokemon that's going to be more useful in the next gym.

  • @glaceiator4086
    @glaceiator4086 Před rokem +8

    wow, what a flashback after seeing marriland popping up then doing a wedlocke since he was doing one, damn time fly so fast

  • @Fuuukano
    @Fuuukano Před rokem +53

    This video is such a nostalgia blast. It got me so emotional.
    Great job, and amazing editing as always !

    • @Ori_ow
      @Ori_ow Před rokem

      Ça fait plaisir de voir des gens de la comu fr dans les comentaires!

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks Před rokem +7

    I personally remember reading IN REAL TIME the original Nuzleaf Locke from Lost comic with my brother. We were in different parts of the country at the time and spoke on the phone for hours a day, and this was one of our favorite things to bond over, but any time I tried I would give up bc I am a Pokémon hoarder and never reset my files or release anything, perfect Pokémon Box, Bank and Home customer right here, whereas my brother would do them all the time. We've had lifelong nicknames for Pokémon like Explodio for drifblims and DLUX for Luxrays born from those early attempts we did

  • @maccheesey2746
    @maccheesey2746 Před rokem +10

    BlackLightAttack's Leafgreen Nuzlocke on TGN was huuuge back then, well edited for the time and came before Haydunn's. He's definitely the first person who did the border to show your team/badges through the whole thing

    • @EskimoArtillery
      @EskimoArtillery Před rokem +3

      Yes! BlackLightAttack's leafgreen nuzlocke was awesome!!

  • @JungusBungus
    @JungusBungus Před rokem +6

    Nuzlockes are the very essence of nostalgia for me. Back in 2012 I loved Nate and Dookie’s Pokémon Soul Silver nuzlocke. My best friend and I did all sorts of competitive “1 v 1 nuzlockes” inspired by them, where we’d battle after every gym and whoever wins more battles wins the nuzlocke competition (or, if you lose the run the other guy wins). We did this for every Pokémon game we owned, and it’s just such a fun time to look back on

  • @Yamartim
    @Yamartim Před rokem +5

    I remember starting to watch nuzlockes way back in 2013-2014 and it's so cool to see how they stuck around and grew so much until now! It was so much cool internet content that came and went so fast that it's easy to lose track of the big picture, thank you so much Wolfe for doing this documentation, all this cool history deserves to be remembered

  • @KingSandvich1
    @KingSandvich1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Minor correction that I'm sure someone else has made:
    The original Nuzlocke ended in a party wipe at Champion Steven. It was only with the sequel, FireRed: Hard Mode, that the OG trainer won the Pokemon League.

  • @Mertl.
    @Mertl. Před rokem +12

    Great video wolfey! I think you may have got the origin of the hardcore nuzlocke a tad wrong, though. It wasn’t classified as such, but I believe marriland implemented level caps and no items in his platinum nuzlocke a few years before pchal!

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Před rokem +1

      Yep, Jan definitely popularized the hardcore nuzlocke, as well as name it. He's definitely a big reason why it's so widespread today. Marriland was undoubtedly the first to use the rules set though.

  • @Joel97_
    @Joel97_ Před rokem +19

    There used to be some flowcharts back in the day when nuzlocke webcomics were popular that explained a lot of the rules before they became popular (Like No pkmn centers, no healing, no shopping and some others) and I remember them seeing them a lot myself.
    When Hardcore Nuzlockes became a thing, it always reminds me that flowchart was there and i found it kinda funny that it existed even so early on.
    This was such a cool video and so well edited too, good job!

  • @RobTibbetts92
    @RobTibbetts92 Před rokem +7

    I’ve been so invested in Nuzlockes from a long long time ago, I remember watching Haydunn doing his first Nuzlocke and being gripped by it. It’s a shame the story telling has been lost over time but it makes sense. What a great video 👍🏻

  • @aloisiosenra
    @aloisiosenra Před rokem +2

    I created a Nuzlocke Variant myself and played it to some extent: Lololocke. My nickname is Lolo, so that's why. It's basically a Hardcore Nuzlocke with two extra rules: I can get an extra "static" encounter per area where it applies (gift, interactable, etc), and I can change my team only ONCE PER CHECKPOINT. The checkpoints are the level caps set for the challenge, like gyms and such. If a pokémon dies in between checkpoints, I can box/release it and use that empty slot to capture a new pokémon (following all the previous rules) and add it immediately to the party. It's hard to play this way, but the challenge is so nice.

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Před rokem +1

      Oh that's interesting, so you almost have to commit to your team for the next gym leader way in advance. Might not be so bad in the early game, but when you have to deal with the "evil team" of the game before you can make it to the next gym, suddenly a lot more planning is required.
      Cool idea!

  • @truemoon564
    @truemoon564 Před rokem +3

    This video from all the shoutouts and all the well articulated information was incredible and I’ve learned a lot about nuzlocks, and being able to say I was around for some of the big moments like Jan beating emerald Kaizo is super awesome to look back on.

  • @finalcountdown3210
    @finalcountdown3210 Před rokem +3

    Haven't finished the video yet, but everyone seems to forget the popularity of the one and only BlackLightAttack, and his run of LeafGreen. It was the first Nuzlocke I ever watched way back in the day

    • @EskimoArtillery
      @EskimoArtillery Před rokem +1

      Yes!!! BlackLightAttacks first ep was in Sept 2011. He had me hooked on Nuzlocke content!

  • @rasslebaby
    @rasslebaby Před rokem +33

    Love the Haydunn shoutout. This channel aside, he’s always had my favorite Pokémon content on this site, and it’s so great to see him still making content to this day.

  • @tl1326
    @tl1326 Před rokem +2

    4:41
    Wolfey: “the bar for being considered hilarious was a lot lower”
    also wolfey: **FART JOKE**

  • @Moxi
    @Moxi Před rokem +53

    This made me so proud to be a part of the community. This video was INCREDIBLE, and I learned so much new lore about something that's become so special to me.

  • @MalevolentMinun
    @MalevolentMinun Před rokem +6

    Duuude, I remember Haydunn! His content was great, love to see he's still doing stuff.
    And Jaiden's Ruby Nuzlocke is so iconic. Crazy to think so many people didn't know how Nuzlocke was derived from the Ruby Hard Mode comic, this was such a fantastic video Wolfey, definitely a must watch for anyone even remotely interested in the Nuzlocke side of Pokemon.

  • @ryanogrady2616
    @ryanogrady2616 Před rokem +11

    I was in Jan's chat for both of his E4 runs, 77 and 151. Absolutely brutal loss at 77, and damn both the Ludicolos, but the elation in 151 was intense and relief was palpable. Truly something that I won't forget in a long time.

  • @mfz0967
    @mfz0967 Před rokem +7

    I was thinking “ No way I’m watching a 40min video on the History of Nuzlockes. And here I am 40 mins later. An absolute banger of a video.
    Much love Wolfey ❤

  • @dillconley112
    @dillconley112 Před rokem +5

    Ave's nuzlocke gauntlet was a blast to watch and was my real first exposure to nuzlockes along with the early Hardcore Nuzlockes

  • @fabioalanmp
    @fabioalanmp Před rokem +8

    I used to read a lot of nuzlocke stuff from this ancient forum. Telling a nuzlocke run through screenshots and a comment per screenshot was extremely common. However after a few years those screenshots from 10+ old runs were lost, which makes it look like they were only a few vague comments and probably made wolfie confused at around 6:40

  • @TsuchiGamer06
    @TsuchiGamer06 Před rokem +4

    It's soooooo crazy how I, as someone who has watched Pokemon SINCE 2012 on YT, I experienced this all. Especially as a fan of Shady, I didn't even know that he started the ball rolling like that. But I remember SO many people had Nuzlocke variants (especially Egg lockes were massive then).
    Feels wild being IN that all that history but not noticing it. I can only imagine how this is gonna feel when I see a history book later and talks about 2020 etc lmao.

  • @Sephiron
    @Sephiron Před rokem

    What an amazing video!
    Huge props for the research, the skript and the editing, this is just on another level.
    For the video - that's exactly what I love about Pokemon. It brings people together. Such a treat, being able to witness this YT/Nuzlocke journey.

  • @jakekoehler1
    @jakekoehler1 Před rokem +3

    14:30 Jan’s reaction to this is going to be 11/10

  • @DrGreenThumb919
    @DrGreenThumb919 Před rokem +4

    I don’t think Jan invented the hardcore nuzlock

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 Před rokem +4

    It's always a treat to see Pokemon CZcamsrs and Streamers taking on Nuzlockes and can't wait to see what other new challenge come in the future that becomes even harder than a Hardcore Nuzlocke!

  • @alexblythe1156
    @alexblythe1156 Před rokem +3

    Wolfe~ you’ve been leveling up so much. It’s so great to see. The quality and marketing tactics are A+. I see you adding a popular video at the final seconds of the sponsor cut away. As people are reengaging. Love to see it

  • @tedursus
    @tedursus Před rokem +2

    "Jan has risen in the ranks to be one of the best known nuzlockers"
    immediately followed by
    "Thank you Jan for giving me this information"
    lol

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs Před rokem

      I'm sure Wolfe probably put that him itself, but that's still funny as hell 😂

  • @dovesoap5026
    @dovesoap5026 Před rokem +14

    Great video! I think the exclusion of nappy and the primetime group aside from luke, shady and a brief clip from jay is a necessary exclusion but it feels like a massive part of this video is missing. Additionally the first nuzlocke on youtube was actually done by BlackLightAttack with his fire red nuzlocke done on the TGN youtube channel. Beats haydunn out by about a month, so not a super important distinction but it felt right to mention. Again great video i hope you do more stuff like this.

    • @darkfireguy
      @darkfireguy Před 2 měsíci

      censoring history is never necessary. Rewriting history for any reason whatsoever is bad regardless of who is being erased

  • @Tumnus40
    @Tumnus40 Před rokem +4

    Nick actually failed his Ruby Nuzlocke. Absol was taken out and sceptile fainted before perish song could take out the metagross.

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 Před rokem

    This video is a masterpiece! As a huge Pokémon fan and an avid player of nuzlockes, this made me so emotional and hyped all the way through, like wow...Well done, Wolfe :D

  • @troschkerson5506
    @troschkerson5506 Před rokem +1

    what a banger. cool to see how your content evolved and improved over the time. Really great work, thanks for that one!

  • @Fakey69
    @Fakey69 Před rokem +16

    It amazing how far you have come. From making competive pokemon gameplay videos to making tutorials for competive pokemon. And now making a legit documentary about pokemon nuzlock.
    You have legitimately become the professor oak of youtube pokemon

  • @Glace_cakes
    @Glace_cakes Před rokem +10

    Wow this takes me back. I remember closely following kynim’s gen 4 and 5 nuzlockes on deviantart.

    • @anonym0sender
      @anonym0sender Před rokem

      Same! I remember really liking how Kynim basically came up with her own lore for the Unova region in MoU.

  • @Zeuseus6609
    @Zeuseus6609 Před 4 měsíci +1

    This is a fantastic breakdown Wolfey. Thanks for putting this together and thanks to all your friends and colleagues who helped with the resarch for making this possible.

  • @JasRGB
    @JasRGB Před rokem +1

    Some of the comics that have come out of the Nuzlocke community are so good, I particularly remember enjoying Myths of Unova!
    Great video Wolfey :)

  • @chris4503
    @chris4503 Před rokem +3

    Marriland not being mentioned in here should be a crime

  • @defectivesickle5643
    @defectivesickle5643 Před rokem +3

    Note: Nick actually wiped his very first run to Steven, at least, that's what the comic depicts.

  • @SaltyySmalls
    @SaltyySmalls Před rokem

    Dude I’ve been watching your videos since XY and I have to say I’m VERY happy for how much your channel has grown since then. It’s actually incredible seeing you almost hit 1 million. You’ve put a lot of work in, congrats bro

  • @BrandonPlaysStuff
    @BrandonPlaysStuff Před rokem

    I love this video, because it is about a community that I have been a part of for the longest time. I'm so happy to see a deep-dive history lesson of this beautiful community.
    It not only allowed me to see how Pchal had grown to become one of the pioneers of Nuzlocking, not only allowed me to see some pf the forst Nuzlocking videos from creators that I had never seen (and might watch later for my own free time), but I think most importantly, this video truly opened my eyes to how important the smaller pro Nuzlockers were (with some even helping bigger streamers).
    I appreciate the many Nuzlockers that had come to create this fantastic video :)

  • @nelsonoke3131
    @nelsonoke3131 Před rokem +7

    I'm a bit sad Tyranitartube's Alpha sapphire extreme wasn't mentioned but all well great video on the history

  • @shadowwaker240
    @shadowwaker240 Před rokem +14

    This is a great video but it's a bit sad that a lot of the nuzlocke forums contributions to this were never mentioned

  • @metaljay77
    @metaljay77 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely loved this. Finally completed my first nuzlocke in December after watching so much content and using Jans strats.

  • @Anne-qk3ch
    @Anne-qk3ch Před rokem +2

    What a great history! I came to streaming during the pandemic and love watching these. It's cool to see the beginnings.

  • @reihwan
    @reihwan Před rokem +5

    Great video, but I do want to add to the small echo that I noticed on the comments: the lack of mentions to Marriland's content and the fact that he did use the 'hardcore nuzlocke' rules before the term was coined for wide audience use. Just something that I feel that could have been deep-dived further. The +15 minutes wouldn't have killed the pacing.
    I used to love watching a whole lot of Nuzlocke videos, read on the forums and check for webcomics but none of those really get the 'feel' that I've had while bingewatching all those Marriland playlists over and over again when the real world has been a dark place for me. (it still is, not getting over it) Now, I can maybe survive watching three minutes into a hardcore nuzlocke video until they bring up "I'm gonna EV train him-" Nope. I click out and move on. Not interested in statistics and maths that I do on the clock daily.
    I agree that with the open-world pokemon it's really hard to determine the "1 pokemon per route and *has to be* 1st pokemon" rule that most older stories had, but even that comes down to planning ahead, which most of the content creators seem to do anyway. So, idk... am I being old and picky? Yes. But I remember playing side-by-side several Nuzlocke playlists with my own game and enjoying it a whole lot more than just playing it on my own.

  • @EskimoArtillery
    @EskimoArtillery Před rokem +4

    Amazing video. I wonder if anyone remembers BlackLightAttack's LeafGreen Nuzlocke on TGN? He started in Sept 2011 so just slightly before Haydunn, he had the awesome updateable overlay that became super popular.

    • @Gich101
      @Gich101 Před rokem +1

      I remember watching that. I did my first nuzlock after I started watching

  • @Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale

    Very well written video, Wolfy. And a much needed catch-up for those who joined pokemon relatively late

  • @quitothings
    @quitothings Před rokem +1

    Incredible video!
    As someone who first started to exist on the internet in general because of Nuzlockes, really like how the Nuzlocke Forums were brought up as it was the very first online community that I joined. Kind of wished that they were covered a bit more with Written Stories and Screenshot Runs, though a lot of screenshot runs from the early days are missing their screenshots due to image hosting sites going down. But then again, it's nice to see that the forums were brought up at all!
    Fun fact: 0:21 I did the video in the top left! Never expected myself to technically be in a Wolfey wideo

  • @chadwick1360
    @chadwick1360 Před rokem +5

    Nice video, the only part that maybe missed was TyranitarTube, with his Custom Nuzlocke called: Pokemon Alpha Sapphire Extreme Randomizer (2015), it really showed how crazy nuzlockes can get when people manually mod the game and even add new Pokemon (Peeko and Lord Helix)

  • @viiranen
    @viiranen Před rokem +3

    pokemon challenges didnt invent the "hardcore" nuzlockes. those have existed from the start. the ways to make your nuzlocke challenges harder have existed forever as lists, by people all around. pokemon challenges propably just branded the hardcore nuzlockes so people would have a better grasp on what they meant?

  • @iSouleyx
    @iSouleyx Před rokem +1

    Really cool to see/remember some of the early days of nuzlocke back reading the original comics, constantly checking each morning if he uploaded, then seeing all the spawns of the original comics, especially ppl like freddy223. Absolute nostalgia seeing some names here.

  • @shenronblacksmoke2217
    @shenronblacksmoke2217 Před rokem +2

    nick is an absolutely great guy, got an interview with him in highschool. glad to see people remember him still.