Ape is Enough. Beneath the Escape from the Conquest of the Battle for The Planet of the Apes.

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    Stam Fine Reviews looks at the 4 feature film sequels to the 1968 film The Planet of the Apes.
    Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)
    Saw another Astronaut, Brent turn up looking for Taylor and stumbled into the middle of a war between the Apes and a human outpost worshipping an atomic bomb.
    Escape from the Planet of the Apes(1971)
    Cornelius (Roddy McDowall) and Zira (Kim Hunter) have travelled back to Earth in the early 70's but a soap opera star is worried that Apes will one day take over.
    Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972)
    Caesar (also Roddy McDowall) leads an Ape revolution in the 1990's.
    Battle For The Planet of the Apes (1973)
    After a Nuclear War, there's one last battle between some mutated humans and the Apes.
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:30 Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970)
    8:01 Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971)
    14:39 Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972)
    18:16 Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973)
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  • @tipi5586
    @tipi5586 Před 2 lety +287

    Dude, having spent my entire life as a millenial explaining to my peers that the original Planet of the Apes has four sequels, I'm glad that other people have had the same ordeal, based on some of the comments.

    • @williamj.dovejr.8613
      @williamj.dovejr.8613 Před 2 lety +9

      Same here...they get shat on so much.

    • @chrisbfreelance
      @chrisbfreelance Před 2 lety +9

      "Andy Serkis is great in the first film"........😩

    • @asnierkishcowboy
      @asnierkishcowboy Před 2 lety +11

      You mean the original from 2001? Just kidding. I visited the cinema back in 2001 and there was a display of the "new" planet of the apes movie. My dad "Oh another one?", me "What is about about?", dad "Well, the apes overtook the leadership." Uhuh, great sum up dad.

    • @jamessullivan4391
      @jamessullivan4391 Před 2 lety +17

      I hear ya. It's frustrating having to explain shit to Millenials all the time.

    • @bladerunner3314
      @bladerunner3314 Před 2 lety +1

      @@asnierkishcowboy Well, in all honesty, when we take the first two of the original sets, ignore the rest, instead treat the new trilogy as the prequels to the 1968 ... we're left with four movies that have nowhere to go.

  • @carsonianthegreat4672
    @carsonianthegreat4672 Před 2 lety +101

    The extended (unrated) version of Conquest is absolutely incredible. The extended ending is chilling.

  • @battoreddu9303
    @battoreddu9303 Před rokem +50

    Conquest is one of the best just for Caesar's final speech. "Where there is fire,there is smoke"

  • @HMcQ7891
    @HMcQ7891 Před 2 lety +140

    In a series that is alternately campy & bleak, _Escape_ is both the campiest entry of the series & the most soul-crushingly dark.

    • @jasonbourneistreadstone
      @jasonbourneistreadstone Před 2 lety +9

      It is. Both. I found this installment extremely depressing as well.

    • @Viking_Luchador
      @Viking_Luchador Před 2 lety +19

      I always assumed that in Escape, the reason Cornelius & Zira knew so much about Ape history was because -- since we already learned that Dr. Zaius knew that Humans were the dominant culture before wiping themselves out -- there must've been some documented record that was passed down through the title holder of Minister of Science and/or Chief Defender of the Faith. They might've asked him to share their knowledge with them in exchange for keeping quiet about their discoveries in the cave. Remember, Zaius originally said they were going to be put on trial for heresy, but when we see them again they're still free. So a deal must've been cut at some point between the first two films. But that's just my theory.

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith Před 2 lety +5

      I've found it's best enjoyed with a generous supply of grape juice plus.

    • @squatch570
      @squatch570 Před rokem +3

      @@Viking_Luchador Great theory that I hadn't considered... because one thing I was most bothered by in 'Escape', was how Cornelius had the knowledge and was able to explain the rise of the Apes following the dog and cat plague. During, and still at the end of the original film, Cornelius didn't know how the rise had happened, he only discovered that man was there before the apes, ruling earth.
      Given your theory, Zaius most likely let Cornelius and Zira in on the full, true history just prior to Zaius' embarking with Ursus into the Forbidden Zone, and entrusting those two with continuing their society had Zaius not returned.
      I love the entire series, except for 'Battle'; what a horrible movie. Lol. The original film is the absolute best and a great movie in any genre; 'Beneath' is still good, but has a few holes; 'Escape' is too glib for me for the majority of it until it turns dark and insidious later in the story; 'Conquest' is entertaining, though not very good; and 'Battle' is just a cheap mess. It's typical of Hollywood to reduce the budget for each sequel and give the director, cast and crew less and less to work with but still expecting the profits to roll in. Each film was a smaller budget and, I forgot who directed 'Conquest' and 'Battle' but, I remember reading the directors of each (maybe same guy) saying that because the budget and cast were small, they filmed the action scenes with a much closer zoom in to hide the fact that there were only a dozen or so people in the scenes. HA!
      Last thought: Aside from the shock value for cinematic effect, why did the mutants in 'Beneath' need to wear masks to hide their true appearance when they were all aware of what they looked like, lived alone, together, underground and no interaction with the mute surface humans, or the apes... other than the few scouts they captured and, of course, certainly killed after interrogation.

    • @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732
      @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 Před rokem +1

      @@Viking_Luchador For me it was just plot convenience. I didn't mind it - loved the movie.

  • @planetoftheatheists6858
    @planetoftheatheists6858 Před 2 lety +86

    Cornelius to Brent: "If you are captured by gorillas, you mustn't speak!"
    Brent: "What the hell would i have to say to a gorilla??"

  • @nopeyadayadayada1248
    @nopeyadayadayada1248 Před 2 lety +117

    I met Linda Harrison, aka Nova, at a sci-fi convention about 20 years ago. She was still a dream.

    • @cchavezjr7
      @cchavezjr7 Před 2 lety +7

      She is truly one of my favorite of the classically beautiful women. So awesome you got to meet her.

    • @thelstanedwardsson4374
      @thelstanedwardsson4374 Před 2 lety +8

      She was an incredible babe in her day. She was very nice looking still when she was in a cameo role in the Mark Wahlberg/Tim Burton remake.

    • @chucky7324
      @chucky7324 Před rokem

      She died

    • @karenholladay2612
      @karenholladay2612 Před rokem +1

      @@chucky7324 Quit lying.

  • @11679MRT
    @11679MRT Před 2 lety +46

    BtPotA is my favorite. Mutated, psychic humans worshipping a gold plated nuclear bomb in the forbidden zone is just way too cool of a concept. It over shadows any deficiencies.

    • @kevinkaple3615
      @kevinkaple3615 Před 2 lety +2

      Agree love the first 2 …can’t stand the rest

    • @JayLangly
      @JayLangly Před 2 lety +3

      @@kevinkaple3615 Same. Actually think Beneath is pretty cool.

    • @kurtsimmons9735
      @kurtsimmons9735 Před 2 lety +4

      Dude, it took me longer to read your abbreviation than it would've had you simply spelled it out

    • @skywaymanaz
      @skywaymanaz Před 2 lety +1

      I wonder if this was also an homage to A Canticle for Leibowitz. They don’t worship the bomb in that but there seems to be post nuclear war scripture about fallout in it. Sounded a bit on the nose.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Same here. I seem to watch Beneath pota more than the other movies! Its not a masterpiece but its cool to see a destroyed NY and an ape army marching to battle!

  • @gozorak
    @gozorak Před 2 lety +89

    The ending of Escape From The Planet Of The Apes was probably the most traumatic media experience I think I experienced as a child when I saw it for the first time sometime in the late 70's on tv

    • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
      @deborahblackvideoediting8697 Před rokem +16

      Oh heavens, yes!! I was 7 or 8 when I saw it, and I absolutely loved Cornelius and Zira! To see them shot down like that, I was absolutely inconsolable.

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551 Před rokem +14

      They're all bleak endings. It's quite unique to have a popular sci-fi action franchise in which every film ends with the heroes effectively losing and everything looking more grim and hopeless than the last time!

    • @CaesiusX
      @CaesiusX Před rokem +4

      Get this: _I had it as a comic book and record set (tragic ending and all)!_ Something I imagine they wouldn't make for kids today. So glad I grew when I did. 😏

    • @Reshme77
      @Reshme77 Před rokem +1

      I cried. Rivers

    • @zackcahill6720
      @zackcahill6720 Před rokem +1

      Yep. Scarred for life

  • @handsome_head_injury6011
    @handsome_head_injury6011 Před 2 lety +189

    I've always been fond of Beneath and find the skinless mutants extremely disturbing- especially in that interogation scene.

    • @thelookuplookdown
      @thelookuplookdown Před 2 lety +15

      Although the revelation of the mutants, as they remove their masks in "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" , hardly now raises an eyebrow, I'm of an age to have seen the film on it's release and the audience started screaming in horror! Ah, simpler times (is it only me or does it sound like the actor taking McDowell's place as Cornelius, was in fact voice dubbed by McDowell - it sounds suspiciously like him). Great video of a flawed, but fascinating series. Michael - South Africa.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +6

      @@thelookuplookdown It depends on whose eyebrows you're talking about! :-)
      That was David Watson's own voice; he really was a brilliant recast; I certainly never suspected it the first time I watched the movie. Of course, Roddy was in the movie's prologue as well.

    • @thelookuplookdown
      @thelookuplookdown Před 2 lety +2

      @@MaskedMan66 Thank you for the info...

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thelookuplookdown You're welcome!

    • @SmartCookie2022
      @SmartCookie2022 Před 2 lety +3

      @@thelookuplookdown Yes, I saw it back in 1970 in a cinema too. The impressive underground labyrinth and mutants was really shocking and eerily atmospheric back then. I managed to see the movie again in 1974 as a re-release double bill with Conquest and both movies were re-classified as AA, which was for 14-years-old and above only in the UK.

  • @Monkofmagnesia
    @Monkofmagnesia Před 2 lety +100

    I actually like Battle for the Planet of the Apes, expecially the relationship between Caesar and Virgil, but, whenever I watch it, it feels like I am watching a pilot to a television series and not a motion picture.

    • @chrisbfreelance
      @chrisbfreelance Před 2 lety +6

      Spot on description.

    • @davidlow862
      @davidlow862 Před 2 lety +11

      now that ya mention it, why on earth wasnt Battle the set up for the tv show?

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551 Před rokem +4

      @@davidlow862
      I was never quite clear when the TV show is set; don't you think it is some time after Battle but still many generations before the first film?

    • @davidlow862
      @davidlow862 Před rokem +1

      @@markpostgate2551 something like that, yes indeed.

    • @calibribody6776
      @calibribody6776 Před rokem +1

      for me, if I put aside the structural issues, the commentary and ideas that Battle puts forth are personally my favourite of the series. I wouldn't put the film above Conquest and Escape but I wouldn't put it under Beneath.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 Před 2 lety +65

    Used to love coming home on a Saturday afternoon to watch the 'Planet of The Apes' tv show. That, Space 1999, The Six MIllion Dollar Man and Dukes of Hazzard to name a view made Saturdays. Happy Days!

    • @guyjperson
      @guyjperson Před 2 lety +5

      I ran away from home once in the 70s. I took a backpack with a blanket, a couple of apples....and all my Planet of the Apes tv show bubblegum cards.

    • @davepowell7168
      @davepowell7168 Před 2 lety +4

      @@guyjperson Survival essentials

    • @MrRufusRToyota
      @MrRufusRToyota Před 2 lety +1

      Quality trash is good stuff.

    • @stevepd1
      @stevepd1 Před rokem +1

      Ahh, the memories.

    • @ObsessedCollector
      @ObsessedCollector Před rokem

      I loved Friday nights! New episode of Dukes, Dallas then bed time.

  • @ronniejaye1
    @ronniejaye1 Před 2 lety +52

    My favourite was Beneath. It was the storyline that hooked me . I found it the most interesting to see the remnants of humanity and how they mutated . I found it a fitting end .

    • @chungkingexpress94
      @chungkingexpress94 Před rokem +1

      Yeah I gotta disagree with the reviewer here. Beneath is the best of the sequels. It really expands on what the first movie set up, and the little bit we get of Heston is great. The mutants, Zeus being less sure of himself, the doomsday bomb. All great. Escape is fun, but not nearly as good.

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp Před rokem +2

      Unfortunately, the studio pulled way back on the mutants' mutations and look.

    • @kevinkaple3615
      @kevinkaple3615 Před rokem +4

      I love the first 2… they blew up the planet..story is over

    • @odetteswann7694
      @odetteswann7694 Před rokem +3

      Yes... I'm sorry, but I just found the premise for 'Escape' too preposterous: a civilization that couldn't even get their heads around a paper aeroplane in the first film can now locate a starship at the bottom of the sea, salvage it, repair it, make it airtight, fly it, etc ..

    • @HC-cb4yp
      @HC-cb4yp Před rokem +2

      @@odetteswann7694 Build a rocket to put it on, all within the time they meet the guy they mistake for Bright Eyes and the moment Bright Eyes nukes the planet.

  • @roberttbrockway
    @roberttbrockway Před 2 lety +23

    As a result of this video I've recently rewatched movies 3,4 & 5 in the Planet of the Apes franchise for the first time since the early 80s. Sequels today are often carbon copies of the original, sometimes even resetting some resolution from the first movie. In contrast each Planet of the Apes sequel is quite distinct. I think this has something to do with their success.

  • @rociomiranda5684
    @rociomiranda5684 Před 2 lety +14

    I was like 10 years old when I saw Escape. I cried so hard at the end. And I developed a major crush on Roddy McDowell to this day. Planet and Conquest are my favorites

  • @Foebane72
    @Foebane72 Před 2 lety +17

    The Apes sequels are mostly OK, but my favourite was always Escape, a true "fish out of water" story concerning everyone's favourite ape couple, Cornelius and Zira.

  • @connorbrennan4233
    @connorbrennan4233 Před 2 lety +18

    Whenever I watch Conquest, I always watch the original cut that has the darker ending. It feels much more natural.

    • @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732
      @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 Před rokem +1

      The Mothers of America - an activist group had them change a few things in the movie. There was a bit more blood in the unadulterated version. The original Battle was supposed to be gruesome also, but they rewrote the whole thing..

    • @etarver13
      @etarver13 Před rokem +1

      That’s because it follows through on how the original movie’s ape-human relationship came to be. But nope, some crybabies can’t handle that, and forced the people who was working on this movie to write that Messiah-chimp nonsense.

  • @NicholasKaufmann
    @NicholasKaufmann Před 2 lety +20

    Back in the late '70s and early '80s, there was a Planet of the Apes movie on TV just about every weekend. I loved them. I also remember watching the live-action TV show, reading the comic books, and playing with the action figures!

    • @odetteswann7694
      @odetteswann7694 Před rokem +3

      Yes, the Virdon/Burke/Galen characters were really well done.

  • @splifftachyon4420
    @splifftachyon4420 Před 2 lety +45

    I don't disagree with your assessment on a technical level, but Beneath is still my favourite of the sequels (followed closely by Conquest). First seeing Beneath as a kid, I was utterly fascinated by the idea of mutants worshipping an atomic bomb as their god. I also think they did a great job at creating the very eerie and haunting remains of New York City on such a small budget. Battle is definitely the worst of them, but it's still essential in bringing the series back around to where it started...almost, anyway. It's left open-ended as to whether or not a new timeline has been created that will differ from Zira and Cornelius' timeline, which I thought was a clever little twist. Anyway, great video, really enjoyed it!

    • @easty2323
      @easty2323 Před 2 lety +2

      Totally. I saw this sequel on TV in the early 90s when I was a kid. It scared and fascinated me that humans existed in secret underground. The psychic abilities and the worship of the bomb freaked me out.
      I love all of the original apes movies. I like the newer ones (and the 2001 remake lol) but the first and second of the old movies are my favourites.
      Loved the video though, funny and interesting✌️

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551 Před rokem +1

      It's interesting to note, just watching this summary, that the history laid out by Cornelius in Escape takes place over centuries but in Conquest it happens in decades. That would imply the presence of Cornelius and Zira has altered rather than merely ensure the timeline. I hadn't noticed that before: I had assumed it was a loop.

    • @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732
      @ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 Před rokem +2

      Beneath was great late night viewing at the time. That and the old gothic Vincent Price movies. Are they more sophisticated in movie making now? Sure. But the current movies don't stir a young person's imagination like these older movies.

  • @Phrankster163
    @Phrankster163 Před 2 lety +117

    I´m glad that you didn´t rag on "Conquest", like I´ve seen many critics do. To me, it´s one of the most under rated movies of the 70´s and does a great job in diving into how cruel, we as people can become and how little in fact separates us from the brutality of our primal ancestors. It changes the way you see the first three movies too, knowing that this was what the original apes rebelled against and replaced, begging the question of which of the two is worse, when it comes down to it. If they´d left in all of the scenes, that were deemed too disturbing by the censors back then (and would have given it an R-rating, at the least), then it would have been even less clear. Considering how insanely fast these movies were made to cash in as much as possible on the "Ape Craze", while it lasted, it´s a remarkable bit of film making. Great video BTW. There´s not much interesting content on CZcams about the "Old Series", so it´s nice when we finally get some.

    • @stuartwald2395
      @stuartwald2395 Před 2 lety +12

      I had seen "Conquest" (and the other sequels), and then I came and went to work in a West LA high-rise. The building and the street out front all looked familiar in a deja-vu kind of way, and eventually it came to me: I was working in Ape Control! That actually made sense.

    • @prometheusunbound7628
      @prometheusunbound7628 Před 2 lety +1

      Nicely articulated. Although "Conquest" is personally my least favorite of the sequels, the next time I watch it I will view it with a different perspective. Thanks.

    • @Phrankster163
      @Phrankster163 Před 2 lety +3

      @@prometheusunbound7628 Thanks yourself! My least favorite is "Battle" out of the OG sequels.

    • @scotcarr3390
      @scotcarr3390 Před 2 lety +5

      Oh, "Conquest" is w/out a doubt, one of the most thought-provoking movies of its day. I know the financial situation Fox was in at that time, but if they actually had the balls to release the "R" cut, it'd get the love now that it deserves.
      If you haven't, hunt down the blu-ray. It has a cut that restores the gore & kept the original ending. Breck getting his head bashed in is immensely cathartic....😝

    • @Hiraghm
      @Hiraghm Před rokem

      it's a straw man movie, one of the first of many predecessors of the current crop of mainstream entertainment. It's CRT in film form.

  • @Buford_T_Justice1
    @Buford_T_Justice1 Před 2 lety +34

    Ever since I first saw this film in the early 80’s something has ALWAYS bothered me about Cornelius.
    When you said it wasn’t Roddy Mcdowell my brain exploded.
    40 years rattling in my head suddenly silenced.
    Thanks dude!

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic Před 2 lety +5

      Roddy McDowell was shooting another movie at the same time that's why he wasn't available for Beneath!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ricomajestic He was directing that other movie!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +6

      I never suspected a thing; it really was a good recast, and especially audacious, since McDowall appeared in the prologue.

    • @kurtsimmons9735
      @kurtsimmons9735 Před 2 lety +2

      It was always pretty obvious to me. I guess you're not into reading the end credits

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kurtsimmons9735 The operative word is "end." Whilst watching the picture, many people had no suspicion of the recast.

  • @kali3665
    @kali3665 Před 2 lety +22

    Still think Conquest is the best of the sequels, with Escape a close second. I loved the character development in these two films. Escape is the most accessible of the films, and I enjoyed the comedy (although they didn't do a good job linking to the backstory of the first film).
    As for Conquest, the political drama was fascinating. Don Murray (Governor Breck) said he translated his lines into German so he could get into his character -- and it worked; he's fantastic here. The new blurays include the original ending of Conquest (Caesar proclaiming the birth of the Planet of the Apes), which made me realize the theatrical ending (Caesar pleading for peace) was such a copout, but probably inevitable considering the times. My greatest fun with Conquest is the fact that they filmed the whole thing in Century City for that futuristic look, and, as an Angelino, I recognized every scene. Of course, they practically rebuilt the mall since then, and the only thing that's still recognizable is the bridge over Avenue of the Stars where they filmed the final battle.
    Beneath was trying SO hard to be better than the first and failed miserably. But James Franciscus was no Charlton Heston (if that's a good thing) -- and Roddy McDowell was out because he was directing his first and only film, which ultimately got f*cked by AIP. It simply didn't work.
    And Battle was just silly - it wanted to be a kid's movie and it had nothing that kept you interested except Roddy McDowell, and all of the character development from Conquest had gone out the window. True, fatherhood does that, but it was just disappointing after the more militant -- and fascinating -- Caesar in Conquest. Although John Huston as the Lawgiver was great, even if it was just an extended cameo, and Severn Darden is so good as a villain.
    Oh, and I can't stand the new films. I really tried to give them the benefit of the doubt, but the originals are still the originals. Truthfully, Caesar is a more interesting character in the original films than in the new.

  • @newdefsys
    @newdefsys Před 2 lety +10

    'Battle' is a slog to get through but the dialog between Caesar and Virgil is really good. You could feel a genuine friendship between Roddy McDowall and Paul Williams.

  • @dennisanderson3895
    @dennisanderson3895 Před 2 lety +7

    I was 9 y.o. when the first film came out. The culture was awestruck! In the zeitgeist, we had no strong objections to the sequels, although after the 5th film, everyone kind of recognized the storyline had nowhere else to advance. "Escape" was definitely the best of the sequels but we enjoyed them all.

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 Před 2 lety +3

    Apes 1: a true classic that remains unmatched by the other movies.
    Apes 2: it’s a fitting conclusion, but yeah I see how people really hate this one.
    Apes 3: my personal favorite, such a sad tale of history repeating itself.
    Apes 4: I really liked this one, but it’s annoying I have to go to CZcams to watch the original ending instead of the Hopeful ending the dvd has.
    Apes 5: as a final movie it could’ve been a lot worse, but I think it’s fine and at least ends the saga. Also it has really good actors in it so that’s another plus, and the final battle is pretty dope.

  • @haruruben
    @haruruben Před 2 lety +16

    I love the one where Cornelius and Zira escape to our time. It’s so much fun, I love how they become celebrities and go shopping. I kinda wish they made a sitcom out of it and they just lived happily ever after

    • @joeypullen9436
      @joeypullen9436 Před 2 lety +2

      However how did they get the spaceship out the lake and fixed lol

    • @haruruben
      @haruruben Před 2 lety +5

      @@joeypullen9436 there’s a line about it, there was one other ape that came with them that didn’t survive so Cornelius just says like “oh that guy did it, he was some kind of genius and he figured it out” and then that genius ape is dead so he never has the explain how he did it. It’s like … just enjoy the show folks, don’t think too hard about it

    • @jb888888888
      @jb888888888 Před 2 lety

      @@haruruben The actor who played Milo (the "one other ape") got killed off earlier than planned because he had a bad allergic reaction to the ape makeup. Which is odd, they could have replaced him with a body double and had him do voiceover dubbing _a la_ Darth Vader 6 years later.

    • @darkwolf-22
      @darkwolf-22 Před rokem

      @@jb888888888 Sal Mineo was the Actor who played Doctor Milo. He came to a Tragic End in Real Life when he was Actually Murdered and his Case went Unsolved.

  • @michaelhorning6014
    @michaelhorning6014 Před 2 lety +7

    The first sci-fi/fantasy film franchise. Watched them over and over again on the late movies on local TV.

  • @Stansman63
    @Stansman63 Před 2 lety +11

    Saw all these at the small theatre my late dad managed back in the 70's..those Saturday matinees will always one of the fondest memories of my younger years.

  • @jasonblalock4429
    @jasonblalock4429 Před 2 lety +18

    21:10 It's really weird how Paul Williams is completely recognizable in the ape suit, even though none of the other actors are.

    • @jtgd
      @jtgd Před 6 měsíci

      Are you saying he looks like his character?

  • @BrooklynAvenue
    @BrooklynAvenue Před 2 lety +18

    11:50 It remains possible that after Zaius destroyed the cave at the end of POTA that he may have told Cornelius the truth about human culture as a sort of consulation for the fact that he'd be tried for heresy.

    • @lukestrawwalker
      @lukestrawwalker Před 3 měsíci +1

      Taylor was correct in his observation that Zaius was "guardian of the terrible secret" that human civilization had existed first and ape civilization rose from it. Zaius would undoubtedly need a successor to "guard the secret" just as he surely was a successor to a previous "guardian" of the secret... 'defender of the faith' so to speak. Who better to entrust this information to than someone who'd already discovered it and been accused of heresy, meaning Cornelius. So it makes sense that Cornelius (and by extension Zira) would have been "let in on the secret" in exchange for their silence and complicity...

    • @BrooklynAvenue
      @BrooklynAvenue Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@lukestrawwalkerAbsolutely. Not everything has to happen on screen when a series does as good World Building as POTA does. Your take makes perfect sense. Whenever a religion or a belief system incorporates a lie for the "common good" you need a gatekeeper that knows the truth. This goes all the way back to Plato. This also connects to Professor Hasslein, who knows the truth about the future of the world, or Taylor who knows the truth about the Alpha Omega bomb... there's a theme of characters knowing the 'deep, dark secret' throughout the series.

  • @jacklawrence2212
    @jacklawrence2212 Před 2 lety +42

    Fantastic. Some really great jokes, delivered with such a dry delivery: 'Like Beatlemania but with apes - though not the Monkees.' I've said it before but I'll say it again, Stam Fine, you're one of the cleverest, funniest internet satirists out there! Seriously well done.

  • @guyjperson
    @guyjperson Před 2 lety +15

    I actually thought Beneath was a pretty good sequel. I thought they figured out a great way to keep Taylor out of the movie while making the movie ABOUT Taylor. I thought James Franciscus was pretty good. I also remember liking Escape, but the only thing I remember about it is Zira building steps up to a hanging banana and then saying she really didn't like bananas all that much.

    • @darkwolf-22
      @darkwolf-22 Před rokem +1

      James Franciscus was also in the Valley of Gwangi.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci

      I agree on that on Beneath POTA! As a kid i never understood why Taylor was only in it for a short time but it was cool to get Brent looking for him only to find a destroyed NY and ape army marching for battle!

  • @richdiddens4059
    @richdiddens4059 Před 2 lety +12

    I was both fortunate and unfortunate to have read Pierre Boulle's book first. In the book the apes' world was set in a rough equivalent of late '50s- early '60s culture; the beginning of the space race. The ending is a triple whammy of surprises. Besides writing the original Planet of the Apes he also wrote Bridge on the River Kwai.

  • @lankinwelder4328
    @lankinwelder4328 Před rokem +4

    Ceasars Conquest speech was FIRE

  • @mtrich8113
    @mtrich8113 Před 2 lety +8

    I think you were a little hard on "beneath" and "Conquest" the second movie I like the fact that Taylor did blow up the Earth ,and Conquest I remember people jumping out of their seats rooting for the Apes to win.

  • @mikavirtanen7029
    @mikavirtanen7029 Před 2 lety +17

    Now that Disney owns Fox properties, terrifying new future awaits us in the cinematic Planet of the Apes. More Charlton Heston memes will be needed.

    • @evertonporter7887
      @evertonporter7887 Před rokem +2

      "Take your stinking paws off me you damned dirty mouse!"
      I'm watching Planet Of The Apes 1968 now.

  • @tuttt99
    @tuttt99 Před 2 lety +7

    The military officer on the left at 8:22 is the same actor (Norman Burton) who portrayed the first ape seen on screen in the original (Gorilla hunt leader, close up at 0:33).
    Mostly seen in small but memorable roles in films like Diamonds are Forever (Felix), The Towering Inferno (Giddings), The Terminal Man (Anders), and others. Burton was a competent and stalwart character actor. RIP.

  • @Danny-qc8fv
    @Danny-qc8fv Před 2 lety +64

    I’m really happy you made this! I never see people talk about these initial sequels. The original is a classic, and the new Matt Reeves trilogy is well-received. So I feel like these (admittedly cheesy) films aren’t brought up. Great video!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +6

      You show me a sci-fi movie with no cheese and I'll show you a turkey!

    • @dmrr7739
      @dmrr7739 Před 2 lety +5

      I’m of the generation that watched these on the afternoon TV movie, as part of the annual “Planet of the Apes” Week. Of course, they were hacked up to fit the allotted time and you were lucky if they showed them in order. I always thought Conquest was the best movie back then. It just seemed to have the most say.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dmrr7739 I remember the afternoon movies, stripped across a week, that showed various movie or telefilm series, and once they showed a specially edited version of the PotA T.V. show, and it was hosted by Roddy McDowall-- as Galen!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +3

      I was pleasantly surprised by the Tim Burton version as well; that one actually took the original book's tack that the PotA was in fact a different planet, and that when the hero got back to Earth, the apes there had taken over.

    • @carljones7380
      @carljones7380 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dmrr7739 use to watch Plant of the apes TV series on a Sunday in the 70s at my Nans.

  • @Sixfoot8m
    @Sixfoot8m Před 2 lety +5

    I first saw James Franciscus in valley of qwangi great actor.
    Ceasers speach in conquest is my fave of all.

  • @kdub1242
    @kdub1242 Před 2 lety +4

    I saw the original Apes at a drive in when I was too young to understand much except that the apes looked cool. Like most cultural phenomena that we experience as kids, they occupy a special nostalgic place in my memory. It didn't take long for me to grow up enough to appreciate them again in a sometimes ironic, but still heartfelt way.

  • @andrewmilesbroughton8222

    Beneath is a real freak out, a haunting film for sure.

  • @wblake1
    @wblake1 Před 2 lety +8

    It was released in nineteen sixty-ape? That was smooth.

  • @Gerry1of1
    @Gerry1of1 Před rokem +2

    Every time I watch Battle for the Planet of the Apes I like it more and more. Underrated film.

  • @roguetrooper5288
    @roguetrooper5288 Před 2 lety +4

    Conquest and Battle are my fave sequels, especially the directors cuts.

  • @teacherofteachers1239
    @teacherofteachers1239 Před 2 lety +8

    If I had been involved in Beneath and someone suggested James Gregory as the gorilla general, I would have said they were crazy. But actually I think he does a great job.

  • @arkhamsquire4503
    @arkhamsquire4503 Před 2 lety +3

    This is my favorite film series despite how inconsistent the quality of writing and the campiness. I love these movies. They got me into practical effects and filmmaking as a whole and I appreciate them for the story they were trying to show instead of milking a cow dry.

    • @ottopenquist5545
      @ottopenquist5545 Před 2 lety +1

      I even like the tv series which had McDowerll as an ape named Galen

  • @Viking_Luchador
    @Viking_Luchador Před 2 lety +7

    I always assumed that in Escape, the reason Cornelius & Zira knew so much about Ape history was because -- since we already learned that Dr. Zaius knew that Humans were the dominant culture before wiping themselves out -- there must've been some documented record that was passed down through the title holder of Minister of Science and/or Chief Defender of the Faith. They might've asked him to share their knowledge with them in exchange for keeping quiet about their discoveries in the cave. Remember, Zaius originally said they were going to be put on trial for heresy, but when we see them again they're still free. So a deal must've been cut at some point between the first two films. But that's just my theory.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I wish we had a tv series taking place where the 70s series left off

  • @davidward2052
    @davidward2052 Před rokem +4

    The original still holds up very well. Escape most closely resembles the original Pierre Boulle novel with the ape/ human roles reversed ( as mentioned here) but... I have a very nostalgic love for Beneath. I saw it at the tender age of ten. It was my first movie without parental guidance ( my buddy and I took a bus downtown to see it) the philosophy and violent action ( plus the world ending) absolutely blew my pre adolescent mind and hooked me on sci Fi forever (2001 followed hard upon.) I rewatched it lately and find it still has it's as appeal, especially the way it sets up the subterranean human society. And the religious Mass scene for the bomb is still a really batshit crazy scene to watch!

  • @michaelmacaulay7808
    @michaelmacaulay7808 Před 2 lety +9

    Great video - the original Apes movies remains my favourite ever franchise. Battle is truly not good but all other 4 have so much going for them. Beneath is wildly nihilistic and has way more subtext than it deserves. Conquest is nothing but social commentary but done in a consistent and exciting way. Escape is a fantastic example of resetting a story in way that is true to the previous movies but extends them really well. And it's a gut-punch of an ending too. Great, great films and one of the joys of the modern trilogy is how much they built on the originals. Rise is essentially a remake of Conquest - even right down to Caesar's iconic "No". Great remakes, brilliant originals. Love 'em. thanks again for the very well-considered video.

  • @bangkokstevie
    @bangkokstevie Před 2 lety +3

    The original didn't really need any sequels but I've always had a soft spot for Beneath. It's certainly far from perfect but I liked the whole mutant storyline and imagery. Shame about Battle, the series was definitely getting into flogging a dead horse (ape) territory by then.

  • @bestpossibleworld2091
    @bestpossibleworld2091 Před rokem +2

    My two college friends and I watched all the Planet of the Apes movies in one setting at a theater. We fed on popcorn and Butterfingers. Surprisingly, we enjoyed the whole experience and didn't nap or lose interest.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci

      I havent had a butterfinger in..yearssss

  • @10072018
    @10072018 Před 2 lety +3

    BENEATH is by far my favorite sequel. Aside form the rehash elements, they really did a great with new villains and introducing new elements of PotA. And that ending, LOVE it. The rest of the sequels felt like cheap cash grabs, which they were.

  • @ltGargoyle
    @ltGargoyle Před rokem +3

    i remember watching these as a child and loving all of them. While I do agree with you on them as an adult, I still love them. nostalgia

  • @GrandFunker
    @GrandFunker Před 2 lety +4

    I just watched Beneath... the other day. I enjoy all the Ape movies.

  • @Silver-rx1mh
    @Silver-rx1mh Před 2 lety +3

    I'm afraid I bloody adored all the Ape movies. Yes the first one is superior, but on the whole I found all of them had something to enjoy, as did the TV series.

  • @jimmyj1969
    @jimmyj1969 Před 2 lety +2

    "Escape..." was brilliant! Apes became the herow, the ones the spectator would identify with - against the evil humans! Only cinema can do that!

  • @AI_Image_Master
    @AI_Image_Master Před 2 lety +3

    I have a special place for Escape from TP of the Apes. It was the summer and my older sister and her friend wanted to go to the movies and my mom just wanted to be home alone and read her book. She said my sister could go but she had to take me. Of course she made me sit in the other side of the theater by myself. First movie I had ever seen with out a parent. Loved the movie. I actual put the order as 1,2,3,4,5. Also loved the TV show and the cartoon. I even had the playing cards. Didn't care much for the recent ones. Problem is that after 5 movies and a tv show are there new ideas to explore, besides the latest in CGI.

  • @ThemboCinema
    @ThemboCinema Před 23 dny +1

    0:33 the way I went back 3 times to makes sure 😂

  • @QoQabai658
    @QoQabai658 Před 2 lety +3

    Conquest was SO good. I love rebellion against tyranny so for me Conquest was topnotch. 👍👍👍

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci

      Cornelius delivered a powerful speech!

  • @manospondylus4896
    @manospondylus4896 Před 7 dny +1

    Even though I was born in the late 90s I managed to watch the originals first before the new Caesar trilogy because I was really bored one day as a kid and my father had them on DVD. I really liked Conquest back then and was quite thrilled in the cinema when I noticed that Rise was basically a remake of that one.

  • @thisolddog2259
    @thisolddog2259 Před rokem +2

    Growing up I couldn't wait for the next installment! These films were so well done!

  • @beanuno4581
    @beanuno4581 Před 2 lety +2

    Conquest still my fav. Something about it always stuck with me into adulthood.

    • @Robd07
      @Robd07 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Conquest felt more like race riots. The speech cornelius delivers was powerful!

  • @sheepewe4505
    @sheepewe4505 Před 2 lety +3

    I have always liked these movies more than Star Wars (and Charlton Heston was my first crush as a 11 year old girl in the 90s) so its nice to see someone talking about them :)

  • @fooey2440
    @fooey2440 Před rokem +3

    i love movies like this mostly for how the camera makes everything look. it would be cool to see this style of cinematography combined with modern cgi. of course with a good story / concept.

  • @TNThielen1982
    @TNThielen1982 Před 2 lety +4

    I love conquest. I wish you’d touched on the tv series and cartoon in as much detail

  • @williamj.dovejr.8613
    @williamj.dovejr.8613 Před 2 lety +3

    The first one and the sequel have the best cliffhanger endings of all time.

  • @dan4466
    @dan4466 Před 2 lety +2

    Battle for the P of the A is a special movie to me. I remember very well going to see it at the drive-in in ‘72. I was 10 and its been a fond memory my whole life.

  • @planetoftheatheists6858
    @planetoftheatheists6858 Před 2 lety +5

    As a kid, i loved each of these movies, and their paperback books, with a passion. Thats all that mattered. They are criticize-proof as far as i'm concerned.

    • @darkwolf-22
      @darkwolf-22 Před rokem

      Back then that was the only way you could own a Movie. Get the Paperback Novelization.

  • @Bootmahoy88
    @Bootmahoy88 Před rokem +2

    I thought Franciscus' work as Brent was quite good, especially during those sequences when he was being mentally controlled. He was fighting it, but it had more power than his will. You could see that inner fight vividly. Not so easy to act.

  • @timtsv1
    @timtsv1 Před 2 lety +12

    Friday night. Nothing to watch... Hang on...Here's another Stam Fine review. 23 minutes and 54 seconds of effortless entertainment! Love your work 😁

  • @richardjohnson9543
    @richardjohnson9543 Před 2 lety +2

    I always liked the way the original Apes series forms a sort of causality loop with the sequels setting in motion the very events that lead to the first film

  • @HamanKarn567
    @HamanKarn567 Před 2 lety +2

    Conquest is my favorite of all of them.

  • @robkelly9258
    @robkelly9258 Před 2 lety +2

    I spent my 21'st birthday watching all of these back to back for the first time.... It is alright i went clubbing and pulled after that but wow the day was well spent...

  • @roberttbrockway
    @roberttbrockway Před 2 lety +5

    The humans in the city in the 5th movie are of course the ancestors of the mutants in the 2nd movie. They even wear similar skullcaps to drop a hint.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      Except that they can't be, since the timeline was changed. They were more an echo.

    • @ajjy1110
      @ajjy1110 Před 20 dny

      no they're not the bomb going off destroyed the entire planet.. watch and listen to the end

  • @ObsessedCollector
    @ObsessedCollector Před rokem +3

    Eric Braden is phenomenal as Dr Hasline. Being German he was easily able to put the accent to work amazingly. But he is also amazing as Dr Forbin in Colossus the Forbin Project.

    • @crosstownchord
      @crosstownchord Před 2 měsíci

      All just warm-ups for his role as Victor Newman in ‘The Young And The Restless’ (44 years now and counting!)

  • @williamj.dovejr.8613
    @williamj.dovejr.8613 Před 2 lety +1

    #1,2, and 4 are my favorite movies...I couldn't stand the last film.

  • @andersdenkend
    @andersdenkend Před 2 lety +2

    I too enjoyed most of the Ape movies back then, maybe mostly because I was a kid.

  • @jajeronymo
    @jajeronymo Před rokem +1

    Many thanks. You brought me back in time. I saw the franchise in the movie theater as a child. The episode of telephathy marked me for life. And even more the scene of crucifixion. What an effect cinema has on us. Congrats for the richness of your analysis.

  • @waynemcauliffe2362
    @waynemcauliffe2362 Před 2 lety +2

    I like Beneath.Good sequel

  • @BossFinale
    @BossFinale Před 2 lety +1

    Binged these when A&E ran all of them years ago. Enjoyed all of them.

  • @marisaelenenadiejamusiccom3974

    I love Roddy McDowall....He was extremely talented and in some films at times he was extremely gorgeous.

  • @jennatransgirl
    @jennatransgirl Před rokem +2

    Love all the movies especially that tells the story line from beginning to end. In full circle.

  • @jefffuller9918
    @jefffuller9918 Před 3 měsíci +1

    As a joke, if I had 4 talking monkeys, I would teach them to sing and play instruments.

  • @OldJenso
    @OldJenso Před rokem +1

    Dear Mr Stam Fine. I am amazed by your insight and wit and the grace with wich you manage to conway it trough the video medium. I don't understand why you don't have a million strong audience, as you outshine many other creaters. Please keep doing what you are doing, so that the world can become richer for it.

  • @regiirecords8829
    @regiirecords8829 Před 2 lety +2

    "I hate every ape I see, from chimpan-a to chimpan-z... " 🎶

  • @tobyjamison6801
    @tobyjamison6801 Před rokem +3

    The only detail I wish the original series covered is why the humans can't talk. I assume because they became hunted down by apes and had to focus on silence. Plus possibly radiation after the war. Over time they basically forgot. That's just my theory though.

  • @snoo333
    @snoo333 Před 2 lety

    wow, what a good video. thanks. I think i have seen all of them back in the day.

  • @aldunlop4622
    @aldunlop4622 Před 9 měsíci

    I downloaded all of them from the high seas about 15 years ago. Now safely stored on an external 1T drive, and stored on my old PC. Still watch them through from time to time.

  • @RogueAgent007
    @RogueAgent007 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this content. Perfect video!

  • @thebakerycreativeagency

    That was great, thanks!

  • @donaldcampbell3043
    @donaldcampbell3043 Před rokem +1

    Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is by far the best movie in the franchise, I think its even better than the first movie...

    • @dionmcgee5610
      @dionmcgee5610 Před rokem

      It was the first one I saw and i absolutely agree. I was disappointed in the first two especially. Yes, even the first one ( except for that magnificent ending).
      The last 2 are great fun. The 3rd is the best quality wise- writing, acting, etc...
      Battle doesn't hold up so well- but it's still a good sequel to Conquest.

  • @tcschenks
    @tcschenks Před rokem

    I loved all of those movies when I was a kid.

  • @jameslatimer1432
    @jameslatimer1432 Před 2 lety +2

    Best film ever made and great talk over cheers buddy 👍

  • @richardmattingly7000
    @richardmattingly7000 Před 2 lety +3

    Fun Fact..Heston filmed a brief scene in character to show studios execs that the Ape makeup showed promise and it was iconic actor Edward G Robinson as Dr Zaius like figure. Robinson turned down the role because f his health and the hours it took to do the makeup for the test shot which was less than the final version. Heston only agreed to appear briefly in the second film because he was told it wouldn't happen without but suggest Taylor's fate to those mal by it. Surprisingly he would go on to appear in a parody intro when he hosted SNL as Taylor with cast n crew as Apes making him preform. As well as the reboot before the recent series but as an Orangutan leadey like Dr Zaius. Sorry McDowell couldn't be in the second film due to another commitment but was quite keen to do the other three that follwed. He played Cornelius twice in the first\third film and then as his own son Caesar in Conquest\Battle before the franchise future would be on TV. McDowell would play another Ape on the brief live action series befriending another two human astronauts and Cartoon Series would air as well for a few episodes too. The studio was largely responsible for the suffering films shortcuts because they insisted that each would cost less each time even though they were profitable. Heston would go onto to make a film with Robinson which turned out to be the veteran actor last in Soylent Green and he passed away just soon after his scenes were finished. Fortunately they didn't repeat the pull over mask debacle from the second film going forward but each had it merits as well as social context throughout the first film had when they were filmed...

  • @bioshock6935
    @bioshock6935 Před 2 lety +1

    I watch all of these films and had the annual book as a birthday present and the masks i was around 6 years old and at that time these was fantastic every time they came on tv i count down the days to watch them

  • @manlystranger4973
    @manlystranger4973 Před 2 lety +4

    Good video, but failed to mention Hanging with Dr Z, the greatest Hollywood talk show of them all.

  • @axxessmundi
    @axxessmundi Před 2 lety +1

    The Donkey Kong score music in the background is very clever!!

  • @SJKPJR007
    @SJKPJR007 Před 2 lety +5

    Splendid work again Stam Fine. "Battle for ..." is so poor that I initially thought I had never seen it until your video showed clips from it. When I did see those clips I still couldn't recall much about the movie itself, only the accompanying feeling of boredom and disappointment when I had originally watched it. Now Hollywood seems overrun with the production of creatively exhausted franchises.

    • @sheepewe4505
      @sheepewe4505 Před 2 lety +1

      TBH the new reboots of the Apes franchise are pretty decent, as well as Mad Max: Fury Road, everything else is garbage

  • @docmychedelic9153
    @docmychedelic9153 Před rokem

    Beneath is my favorite by far.

  • @kenbattor6350
    @kenbattor6350 Před rokem +1

    I like The Planet of the Apes because it led to Krieger in Archer getting to say "They Blew it up......."

  • @leewilson2140
    @leewilson2140 Před 2 lety +1

    I love all the Ape films!!!From the original,through to the sequel/prequels.The Tim Burton reimagining to the three new reboots!!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't discount the two T.V. series!