One problem with trailor tyres, is often they are old tyres, you don't realize how old they are, because trailor tyres wears much slower than vehicle tyres. Sometimes you will find that your tyres on your trailor are 15 years old. That is why trailors often have blowouts. Keep track of the date of manufacture of your trailor tyres.
moncorp1 Inc...Sorry, you are incorrect. Low tire pressure is the #1 reason. I don't run the BWP product, but do run 19.5's on my 22.5k trailer. That was the first upgrade done after purchase. Eternabond tape on the roof was second. This guy is correct and knows what he's talking about. Always the same story, I've seen it before. The keyboard ninjas blow off the experts.
Agree with you on the 19.5 you showed but I believe you compared it with a P 16 inch tire. I would like to see this comparison with a Goodyear LT235/85R16. Also I would like to mention that the tire is the first component of any suspension. When you go to these low profile high pressure tires it dramatically increases the initial JOLT when it hits something like a pothole where the taller sidewall and lower pressure of a 16 inch tire will give and forgive much more!
Also. The tires capacity does not change the trailers capacity. Trailer design, axle capacity, brake capacity and spring capacity make up the trailers ability to hold weight. The tire capacity is only one component. The tow vehicle is a completely different subject. I'll digress.
i use lt truck tires had no problems with blowouts but st tires are junk and dangerous another problem in 1993 the speed limit was 55 or 65 mph now its 80 in some places st trailer tires cant handle the speed
That is true, that can work in some cases. We recommend people check to make sure their wheels are rated for the weight rating of a G rated tire (3,750-4,440/lbs.) and the pressure rating to make the tire useful (110/psi). If the wheels are rated for it then you could make use of the 16" G rated tire. If not, you risk rim failure as well. Of course, still consider that 16" tires have a higher profile design that is more susceptible to damage from sidewall flex stress when turning and maneuvering, they have a shallower tread depth (10/32"-12/32" on average compared to 16/32"-18/32" on 19.5"), and typically have lower speed ratings. Just some things to weigh when making a decision on the best tire/wheel for the application.
anyone driving a RV or pulling a trailer or 5th wheel all dam well know they have to be doing 70mph or faster, and 2000 lbs over. you see it daily on the byways.
@Kwasi Akhan I do keep a good distance, but one of my pet peeves is people pulling in front of me with only 40-50 feet clearance. Very annoying as they have no idea that 6-7 tons hitting them from the rear is going to be deadly if they slam on their brakes.... and I have seen that before. All I can do is give them the royal salute.... ;-)
Great video! I am new to all of this and finding it difficult to make the best choices. I'm all about over kill when it comes to durability, problem free safety and best ride. What tire would you recommend, would be the best 15" tire for a 30', 7800 total load capacity, tandem axle travel trailer regardless of cost? I want to replace the old 15" steel rims for 15" aluminum rims, all new suspension (I'm thinking about MORryde SRE 4000? any suggestions?) and of course the best tires for the job. I would love any input you might have. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge! How about making a Boar in 15"?
Thank you, Suzanne. We try to provide the best information we can after over 30 years working in tire construction, sales, and recycling. I think you can't go wrong with the MORryde setup. I've had many customers go with them on larger trailers and have heard only good things. For the weight of the trailer, I'd probably go with the Goodyear Endurance LRE 225/75R15. It has a 3-year warranty and an 87/mph speed rating. There are several good options available for 15" rims rated for 2,850/lbs or less. While we would like to again address the 15", it will be some time before we can do so.
@@BoarWheelCompany I was going to ask you a very similar question. What is the average year lifespan of a good tire? I have the original 2015 Trailer Kings ST 225/75 R 15 on aluminium rims on my 2015 , 23 foot, 5000lbs travel trailer. They have no more than 5000 miles on them and they look great. I am a total safety conscious person without tons of money and would appreciate your advice whether or not I should replace them with those Goodyear Endurance tires. I don't think the Trailer King tire is supposed to be such a good one. Thank you
@@suzanneschristie I hear lots of positives about those Goodyear Endurance tires. Did you install them? How do you like them so far? Thanks, happy and safe RVing 🌞
@@Hundert1 For an ST tire in the 225/75R15 I would personally use the Goodyear Endurance LRE. It only comes with an 8/32" tread depth but has a good weight rating (2,830/lbs. @ 80/psi) and good speed rating (87/mph). I would probably change them out every 3 years personally. I also believe that a TPMS system is well worth the cost in preventing blowouts. You can be alerted early to either a dramatic rise in temperature or air pressure which is a good indication to STOP before a blowout. If you're wheels are rated for the weight, you might also look at the Transeagle 14 ply rated (LRG). It comes with a 10/32" tread depth, and 75/mph speed rating. It is an all steel tire (sidewall plys are steel in addition to tread plys). For a 5,000/lbs. trailer, I think the Goodyear is perfect.
I just went from a 225/75R-15 D 8 ply 65psi (65 mph rated) to a 225/75-15 E 10 ply 80 psi(81 mph rated)...I'm hoping that is enough for my 7500# dry/10,000# gvwr 5th wheel.
Good job! If you determine you need more in the future, there is the Road One 225/75R15 LRG available now as well. It's an all steel construction tire with a 3,500/lbs weight rating and 75/mph speed rating.
Nice wheels, but after running 19.5 tires on wrecker for years, mounting and trying to get balanced.... You couldn't give me those rims! I can buy 16" load range g or h trailer tires just about anywhere, try that with a 19.5! No thanks, I'll pass
Doesn't solve the problem of getting then not to vibrate! I want my tires to balance and run smooth. Most tire shops that do have 19.5 tired have cheap ones so the shake your fillings out! Been buying them since 1999.... Not sold on them! Will only buy for truckers that hav to hav vthem!
@@johnspitters3639 With 5,200/lbs axles, a better 16" is probably sufficient, although you'll need to upgrade your wheels for any additional weight rating and psi rating. Personally, I'd go with the Goodyear 614 as it is a pretty solid tire. We do have a 6-lug wheel coming in the 19.5" and which would allow you to run the Continental HS3 225/70R19.5 LRG tire. At 80/psi this tire is rated for 3,195/lbs and would cover your GAWR and provide a comfortable safety margin when loaded.
True, there are 14-ply 16" on the market. However, not all 14-ply are equal in their capabilities or construction. There is a big difference between 14-ply 16" and 14-ply 19.5s. First, it's important to consider your wheels weight and air pressure rating. Most stock 16" rims are not rated for the higher air pressure or weight needed to benefit from going to a 14-ply. Reputable tire shops won't install them either. There is a much higher risk of rim failure if you try to run the weight or pressure in a rim not rated for it. Next, consider the construction. 17.5" tires and smaller have a different test standard they must pass then sizes over 17.5". The test standard for breaking energy is almost 3 times more for a true commercial tire. They have higher tensile strength steel, higher grade rubber, deeper tread typically, are SmartWay verified lower rolling resistance, and cost about the same as a better quality 14-ply 16". In addition, the higher profile design of the 16" tire will still lend itself to greater flex stress and a higher probability of unseen belt damage. We've replaced 14-ply 16" for many customers that experienced frequent failures until going to the lower profile, true commercial construction of 19.5s. 16" 14-ply do have their place, and I would recommend them for a trailer below 14,000 GVWR that doesn't travel tens of thousands of miles a year. www.boarwheel.com/benjamin-benavides/
I have a 32 foot toy hauler 5th wheel that is about 13,000 lbs loaded. This trailer came stock with 225/75/15 tires. I would like to upgrade to something like this but I'm worried there's not enough room to handle the additional diameter. As it sits now, I only have about a 2" gap between the tires of the front and rear axles. I may be ok upgrading to a G rated 235/75/16 tires like the ones available from Goodyear or Sailun. Decisions, decisions...
The 225/75R15 is approximately a 28.3" diameter, and a 235/75R16 G rated is approximately 30.7". If you only have 2" gap between the tires, that will be a little tight. To go to the 19.5", the 225/70R19.5 has a 32" outer diameter, so with your current setup, unfortunately, I don't think the 19.5" will work. Let me know if you'd like us to see what alternatives might work.
Boar Wheel Company remember, a 30" tire may be two inches taller then a 28" but installed it will only be one inch closer to the fender as half of the height difference will be on the bottom in contact with the road.
Jason Harrison, yes, but what they were talking about was the clearance between the front and rear tire, not fender to top of tire clearance. Being that each tire will be 1 inch closer to the other, that would mean they would be touching if he only had a 2" gap to start.
Hello, I have a Raptor toy hauler and has 235-80/16 F rated tires. My main concern is the height difference it would make on my RV. It already stands at 13.4 ft tall. Do you make a 17.5 wheel that would allow me to run a lower profile tire without sacrificing increased height?
We do have a Cruiser 67 Aluminum Wheel we pair with Continental HTL2 245/70R17.5 with a 31.6” outer diameter. This should change clearance by about 1/4”.
Robert Carrigan Jr Yes, it will work as long as you have the 8-lug bolt pattern on your wheels. The height will only be about 1/2” different so there should be no fitment issues or modifications required to make the conversion to 19.5s.
Robert, I have a 5'er as well. 14.5k dry and live in the south. I switched from factory 10plys to a (sailun tires) 14Ply. Man what a difference, I can almost turn 90degress without axle wrap. They 10plys the camper companies are putting on- need to come off asap.
LT type tires may be okay for some applications. I would use LT tires before ST. I say that with over 20 years of personal tire construction experience and over 90 years combined in the founders of the company. The higher profile design of 16" tires (any type or ply) and lighter-duty construction lends itself to being more susceptible to over-flexing when turning and maneuvering. This can often result in belts that become fatigued and fail. There are things that can be done to reduce the risk of failure. The most obvious is to maintain proper air pressure, don't overload, and keep your speed below the speed rating on the tire. Additionally, most of these type trailers are not being weighed when loaded. In order to ensure the tires are not overloaded, I recommend tires rated for 10-20% more than your GAWR. So if you have 6K axles I would use tires rated for 3,300-3,600/lbs each on the axle. This provides a safety margin that is typically not present on the stock tires. LT tires and tires size 17.5 and smaller have one test standard and tires over 17.5 have a higher breaking energy test standard. So to get a truck commercial grade product, upgrading to 19.5s is one of the best options for the reasons explained in the video. We're happy to provide application specific recommendations as well.
Dont LTs have a thinner sidewall for ride comfort on your vehicle as a ST trailer tire uses different rubber compounds for a stiffer sidewall for carrying weight?
@@oilypatch323 Both LT and ST tires have similar construction. In most instances, when you break them down side by side, the ST is actually thinner and more pliant. If you look at the sidewall ply rating, they are typically 2-ply, and both are either polyester or nylon. Once you go to the 14 ply rated 16" then you get into the steel radial ply. I can't answer the rubber compound question thoroughly. There are different grades of carbon black, various class synthetic polymers, natural rubber, and more that factor into both the sidewall and tread compounds. Most manufacturers do not share this information. I can tell you that a 10-ply rated LT tire and 10-ply rated ST tire have virtually the same thickness and construction appearance when broken down. LT having a much deeper tread depth. According to a survey by Highways magazine in 2010, 32% of trailer owners reported premature tire failure problems. To put that into perspective, tire manufactures will often recall a tire model at less than 1% failure rate on passenger vehicles.
Can you tell me the loaded weight? What is the distance from center axle to center axle? What brand tire are you running now? With this information I can make a better suggestion.
The towing capacity of a car, light truck or my Kenworth is irrelevant as to the axle carrying capacity of the trailer. The problem as I see it is that you cannot buy a quality non commercial trailer tire in North America other than garbage Chi-Com crap that nobody wants to stand behind or you can feel comfortable going down the road with. Unfortunately all most people want is "Cheap Shit" and the outcome is always the same...you get what you pay for...enjoy folks you reap what you sow.
You hit the nail on the head! People come into my shop when the factory tired wear out at 70k and bulk at the replacement price so buy a cheaper tire and bitch when they wear out in 20k! You get what you pay for! I don't buy cheap tires! I travel to much to have to worry about blow outs at 2 am!
Unfortunately, no. At this time we are focusing on the 16" tire replacements. We will be working on a better solution for the smaller size tires in the future. We'll keep you posted!
There are a few model options with the Designer, however, if you have the 8 bolt lug pattern now and currently have 235/80R16 or 235/85R16 tires, our 19.5" wheels and 225/70R19.5 options will fit that application beautifully.
@@johnlee8985 Okay, from the center of the front axle to the center of the back axle we like to see 34" to make the change to the 19.5s. If you have that, we should be good to go.
For the steel Rancher wheels with Continental tires, it will be around $2,500 for 5 mounted and delivered. Cruiser 67 Aluminum with Continental will run about $3,000. There are less expensive tire options available if preferred.
You'll have to check clearance above the tires between the tread and deck. The stock tire is a 235/80R16 (31" outer diameter) and I would recommend the 225/70R19.5 (32" outer diameter). If you have the clearance when loaded, this tire on our Hooper Dual wheel would be the ideal setup. Thanks
@@BoarWheelCompany I’m not sure about the center axle. My trailer is 53” step deck low profile tri axle but normally lifting the last axle unless I need them. Tire brand is Bridgestone. Just bought the trailer so I think I need to change the tires eventually just. That side wall thickness makes sense but I really don’t k much about tires
@@truckandtea Most Bridgestone 17.5s have a J speed rating (62/mph) as you go over that speed your weight capacity drops. I'd probably recommend going to the Continental HTL2 in the 245/70R17.5 which has an L speed rating (75/mph). I'd avoid tires with a J speed rating. You can see this in the service description which will say something like 142/140K. The letter is the speed rating. (K is 68/mph).
@@BoarWheelCompany I just checked the picture driver sent me. It says. 143/141k Just checked there website. It’s r238. Mc speed 65. N it’s J. Since I’m gonna change them all anyways try to put sth better rated, that brand u mention I’ll look at it thanks a lot sir
There are a couple of options. One, you can change out your hubs to an 8 lug hub. Many of the axle spindles that fit the 6 lug hub also fit the 8 lug hub. Two, we have 6-lug steel wheels coming in August in black or silver. They will be the Rancher wheel with a 6 lug design.
Unfortunately, we don’t get into addressing sizes that small. I agree they are junk but again there are not many quality options for the 14” that I can recommend.
There are a few considerations when comparing them to make the best decision for your application. For tire sizes 17.5 and smaller the test standard to get a 14 ply rating is lower than sizes greater then 17.5 (6,000 inch pounds of breaking force vs. 18,000+ 19.5 and larger). FedEx, UPS, Ford, Dodge, all the major companies opt to us 19.5s instead of 14pr 16" or 17.5". These are companies with multi-billion dollar R&D devisions and they've decided that the best tire for medium-duty (larger then Light Duty or 1-ton trucks) is 19.5s. 19.5s can, but don't always, have higher speed ratings and greater options for tire designs. Every manufacturer makes 19.5s and you can get them with 87/mph speed ratings and 7 year warranty. They are retread-able and regroovable. They also typically have a deeper tread depth of a higher grade tread rubber.
My 5th wheel TH has 235 80r16 e and want to go to a G. To go to the 19's you have will I then need a new rim? Also, in your opinion, over the winter does it help to get load off tires?
Yes, you do need the 19.5" rim to upgrade to a commercial grade 225/70R19.5 truck tire. I think it definitely doesn't hurt to get the weight off the tires, especially if they'll be sitting for an extended period of time (6 months or more). Preventative measures are always a good idea.
No, just go to Harbor Freight and get a wheel stretcher..Works on thr same principle as their pipe stretcher except the stretching load is applied radially rather than longitudinally. Follow the included directions reliiously. Good luck!
17.5 are definitely a step of from any 16" options. It really comes down to what you need for the weight, speed, and distances you travel. I have customers every day that want to upgrade from 17.5 to 19.5 for the reduced revs per mile, greater availability, and generally higher speed ratings. 17.5s are shorter so you get greater revs per mile (increased heat built-up potential), generally have a 62/mph speed rating (J) and are trailer specific so can create a greater challenge in acquiring a comparable replacement when out on the road. 19.5s are on most medium-duty trucks from FedEx to Ford F450 and larger. They provide greater replacement choices not just in numbers available but also in tread designs available. Speed rating average from 75 up 87/mph. It really comes down to the specific application. In some cases, the 17.5 will still be your best option to upgrade from 16".
We do have a dual wheel option. It has a 5.5" offset. You can find them here: www.boarwheel.com/hooper-2dw/. All of our single wheels have a 0" offset. Thanks!
First things first !!!! Make sure you have a tire that is rated to carry the load you are hauling !!! Only larger trailers will take those 19.5 inch rims !!! Then make sure you do NOT have those cheap ass chinese ST trailer tires, use a good Lt truck tire of as large a tire as made or will fit of the highest load range available and keep the air to the TIRE mfg'rs recommended pressure.
The size he is talking about doesn't really matter. Its the 14 ply tire he is talking about. The tire is a G rated tire. Point is stay away from a E rated tire. Go with more tire plies. Use an F rating or higher.
The specific tire mentioned in the video is a 225/7019.5 LRG. All 14PR 225s have the same weight rating but vary on their speed rating. For example, the Triangle pictured has a 75/mph rating and the Continental we now offer have an 87/mph rating. All low-profile 19.5s provide the benefits mentioned.
Wow. Stupid has once again hit the internet. There are many commercial tire providers for 16" wheels. Yes bad tires are not reliable. Thats why they are referred to as bad tires. Buy good tires. Problem solved. Hope you sell a bunch of your 19.5 wheels based on your life.
We actually have many customers who purchased the “best” 16” they could and had experienced frequent blowouts still. 14PR G614s not holding up on their triple axle trailers. Once they made the switch, no more issues. Not every trailer will need them but with a reported 38% of trailer owners reporting tire failure problems, the issue needs addressed. On larger trailers and no 16” tire possesses the same test standards or performance abilities as 19.5-24.5 truck tires.
One problem with trailor tyres, is often they are old tyres, you don't realize how old they are, because trailor tyres wears much slower than vehicle tyres. Sometimes you will find that your tyres on your trailor are 15 years old. That is why trailors often have blowouts. Keep track of the date of manufacture of your trailor tyres.
There's blowouts for a lot of reasons. Cheap chinese construction is the main cause. Age is just one of the causes.
moncorp1 Inc...Sorry, you are incorrect. Low tire pressure is the #1 reason. I don't run the BWP product, but do run 19.5's on my 22.5k trailer. That was the first upgrade done after purchase. Eternabond tape on the roof was second. This guy is correct and knows what he's talking about. Always the same story, I've seen it before. The keyboard ninjas blow off the experts.
You can find the age of your trailer tires by looking at the date code on the sidewall. Not knowing this is just ignorance. 3-5 years old max.
Agree with you on the 19.5 you showed but I believe you compared it with a P 16 inch tire. I would like to see this comparison with a Goodyear LT235/85R16. Also I would like to mention that the tire is the first component of any suspension. When you go to these low profile high pressure tires it dramatically increases the initial JOLT when it hits something like a pothole where the taller sidewall and lower pressure of a 16 inch tire will give and forgive much more!
Yes, we need a solution for these smaller travel trailer tires. Mine are 13" and no room to go bigger.
Also. The tires capacity does not change the trailers capacity. Trailer design, axle capacity, brake capacity and spring capacity make up the trailers ability to hold weight. The tire capacity is only one component. The tow vehicle is a completely different subject. I'll digress.
All my friends have blowouts on their 5th wheels, ALOT. I have Goodyear B614’s commercial G rated on three axles, never had a blow out.
We're real proud of ya
i use lt truck tires had no problems with blowouts but st tires are junk and dangerous another problem in 1993 the speed limit was 55 or 65 mph now its 80 in some places st trailer tires cant handle the speed
I wish you had them for smaller trailers. All we have in 13" are the China Bombs.
Upgraded tires a must
You could have gotten a G rated tire with a simple switch from ST235/80 r16 to a ST235/ 85 R16. No need for new wheels
That is true, that can work in some cases. We recommend people check to make sure their wheels are rated for the weight rating of a G rated tire (3,750-4,440/lbs.) and the pressure rating to make the tire useful (110/psi). If the wheels are rated for it then you could make use of the 16" G rated tire. If not, you risk rim failure as well. Of course, still consider that 16" tires have a higher profile design that is more susceptible to damage from sidewall flex stress when turning and maneuvering, they have a shallower tread depth (10/32"-12/32" on average compared to 16/32"-18/32" on 19.5"), and typically have lower speed ratings. Just some things to weigh when making a decision on the best tire/wheel for the application.
I ain't getting 19.5's under my trailer and look at the rubber left on the ground when turning.
I agree. I need 205/75r15 for my '17 Salem Hemisphere Hyper Lyte travel trailer that I just ordered and is coming equipped with CASTLE ROCK tires???
anyone driving a RV or pulling a trailer or 5th wheel all dam well know they have to be doing 70mph or faster, and 2000 lbs over. you see it daily on the byways.
I keep my speed limited to 60 mph..... but see quite a few people flying by at 80!
@Kwasi Akhan I do keep a good distance, but one of my pet peeves is people pulling in front of me with only 40-50 feet clearance. Very annoying as they have no idea that 6-7 tons hitting them from the rear is going to be deadly if they slam on their brakes.... and I have seen that before. All I can do is give them the royal salute.... ;-)
Another benefit is less sway with thicker sidewalls
Great video.
There is a lot of negative comments, send me 10 tires and rims and I will try them out
Sure thing. Give me a call and we'll get you set up.
Great video! I am new to all of this and finding it difficult to make the best choices. I'm all about over kill when it comes to durability, problem free safety and best ride. What tire would you recommend, would be the best 15" tire for a 30', 7800 total load capacity, tandem axle travel trailer regardless of cost? I want to replace the old 15" steel rims for 15" aluminum rims, all new suspension (I'm thinking about MORryde SRE 4000? any suggestions?) and of course the best tires for the job. I would love any input you might have. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge! How about making a Boar in 15"?
Thank you, Suzanne. We try to provide the best information we can after over 30 years working in tire construction, sales, and recycling. I think you can't go wrong with the MORryde setup. I've had many customers go with them on larger trailers and have heard only good things. For the weight of the trailer, I'd probably go with the Goodyear Endurance LRE 225/75R15. It has a 3-year warranty and an 87/mph speed rating. There are several good options available for 15" rims rated for 2,850/lbs or less. While we would like to again address the 15", it will be some time before we can do so.
@@BoarWheelCompany Thank you so much for the reply and the great info! : )
@@BoarWheelCompany I was going to ask you a very similar question. What is the average year lifespan of a good tire? I have the original 2015 Trailer Kings ST 225/75 R 15 on aluminium rims on my 2015 , 23 foot, 5000lbs travel trailer. They have no more than 5000 miles on them and they look great. I am a total safety conscious person without tons of money and would appreciate your advice whether or not I should replace them with those Goodyear Endurance tires. I don't think the Trailer King tire is supposed to be such a good one. Thank you
@@suzanneschristie I hear lots of positives about those Goodyear Endurance tires. Did you install them? How do you like them so far? Thanks, happy and safe RVing 🌞
@@Hundert1 For an ST tire in the 225/75R15 I would personally use the Goodyear Endurance LRE. It only comes with an 8/32" tread depth but has a good weight rating (2,830/lbs. @ 80/psi) and good speed rating (87/mph). I would probably change them out every 3 years personally. I also believe that a TPMS system is well worth the cost in preventing blowouts. You can be alerted early to either a dramatic rise in temperature or air pressure which is a good indication to STOP before a blowout. If you're wheels are rated for the weight, you might also look at the Transeagle 14 ply rated (LRG). It comes with a 10/32" tread depth, and 75/mph speed rating. It is an all steel tire (sidewall plys are steel in addition to tread plys). For a 5,000/lbs. trailer, I think the Goodyear is perfect.
No problems with my harbor fright trailer... i can out hull any one of u with it and the 12 inch tires
12 inch tires are the way to go.
I just went from a 225/75R-15 D 8 ply 65psi (65 mph rated) to a 225/75-15 E 10 ply 80 psi(81 mph rated)...I'm hoping that is enough for my 7500# dry/10,000# gvwr 5th wheel.
Good job! If you determine you need more in the future, there is the Road One 225/75R15 LRG available now as well. It's an all steel construction tire with a 3,500/lbs weight rating and 75/mph speed rating.
Nice wheels, but after running 19.5 tires on wrecker for years, mounting and trying to get balanced.... You couldn't give me those rims! I can buy 16" load range g or h trailer tires just about anywhere, try that with a 19.5! No thanks, I'll pass
You can buy the 19.5's or 22.50's at most any commercial tire shop.
Doesn't solve the problem of getting then not to vibrate! I want my tires to balance and run smooth. Most tire shops that do have 19.5 tired have cheap ones so the shake your fillings out! Been buying them since 1999.... Not sold on them! Will only buy for truckers that hav to hav vthem!
My trailer is equipped with 235 80r 16 load rang E with a 6 lug wheel, what options do I have to upgrade to a more robust tire.
Go to an F rating or higher.
That’s way more tire than a 3500 axles can carry
Do you know the axle size? Are they 6K axles?
5200lb axles
@@johnspitters3639 With 5,200/lbs axles, a better 16" is probably sufficient, although you'll need to upgrade your wheels for any additional weight rating and psi rating. Personally, I'd go with the Goodyear 614 as it is a pretty solid tire. We do have a 6-lug wheel coming in the 19.5" and which would allow you to run the Continental HS3 225/70R19.5 LRG tire. At 80/psi this tire is rated for 3,195/lbs and would cover your GAWR and provide a comfortable safety margin when loaded.
But it you don't ck your air to often and it gets low it could blow up while filling it up and steel in side walls comes apart and it will get you!!
750. R 16 14 ply hankook are a good trailer tire
I'll review these and make a video. Get a hold of me. Thanks
They make all steel 16” 235 85 16 14 ply. You don’t need 19.5
True, there are 14-ply 16" on the market. However, not all 14-ply are equal in their capabilities or construction. There is a big difference between 14-ply 16" and 14-ply 19.5s. First, it's important to consider your wheels weight and air pressure rating. Most stock 16" rims are not rated for the higher air pressure or weight needed to benefit from going to a 14-ply. Reputable tire shops won't install them either. There is a much higher risk of rim failure if you try to run the weight or pressure in a rim not rated for it. Next, consider the construction. 17.5" tires and smaller have a different test standard they must pass then sizes over 17.5". The test standard for breaking energy is almost 3 times more for a true commercial tire. They have higher tensile strength steel, higher grade rubber, deeper tread typically, are SmartWay verified lower rolling resistance, and cost about the same as a better quality 14-ply 16". In addition, the higher profile design of the 16" tire will still lend itself to greater flex stress and a higher probability of unseen belt damage. We've replaced 14-ply 16" for many customers that experienced frequent failures until going to the lower profile, true commercial construction of 19.5s. 16" 14-ply do have their place, and I would recommend them for a trailer below 14,000 GVWR that doesn't travel tens of thousands of miles a year.
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I have a 32 foot toy hauler 5th wheel that is about 13,000 lbs loaded. This trailer came stock with 225/75/15 tires. I would like to upgrade to something like this but I'm worried there's not enough room to handle the additional diameter. As it sits now, I only have about a 2" gap between the tires of the front and rear axles. I may be ok upgrading to a G rated 235/75/16 tires like the ones available from Goodyear or Sailun. Decisions, decisions...
The 225/75R15 is approximately a 28.3" diameter, and a 235/75R16 G rated is approximately 30.7". If you only have 2" gap between the tires, that will be a little tight. To go to the 19.5", the 225/70R19.5 has a 32" outer diameter, so with your current setup, unfortunately, I don't think the 19.5" will work. Let me know if you'd like us to see what alternatives might work.
Boar Wheel Company remember, a 30" tire may be two inches taller then a 28" but installed it will only be one inch closer to the fender as half of the height difference will be on the bottom in contact with the road.
Jason Harrison, yes, but what they were talking about was the clearance between the front and rear tire, not fender to top of tire clearance. Being that each tire will be 1 inch closer to the other, that would mean they would be touching if he only had a 2" gap to start.
Do you have an option for the old hub assemblies with the 9.44 wheels (dexstar i believe)??
Unfortunately, we do not have anything for a 9.44 axle. Thank you for checking.
3:14 I wonder how often gets asked about his "red stapler".
We're gonna need to go ahead and move you downstairs into storage B.
@@moncorp1 : Uhh, yeahhh
Do you offer anything for a 5 lug? I go through at least a set of 4 6 plys a year pulling my boat. Frustrating....
Unfortunately not in a 5 lug. What size tire is on the trailer? We have a 225/75R15 14 ply rated tire coming soon that might be an option.
Boar wheel company is this 15 inch tire available yet?
Hello, I have a Raptor toy hauler and has 235-80/16 F rated tires. My main concern is the height difference it would make on my RV. It already stands at 13.4 ft tall. Do you make a 17.5 wheel that would allow me to run a lower profile tire without sacrificing increased height?
We do have a Cruiser 67 Aluminum Wheel we pair with Continental HTL2 245/70R17.5 with a 31.6” outer diameter. This should change clearance by about 1/4”.
I have ht235/85/r16 on my rv 5th wheel would something like this work for me
Robert Carrigan Jr Yes, it will work as long as you have the 8-lug bolt pattern on your wheels. The height will only be about 1/2” different so there should be no fitment issues or modifications required to make the conversion to 19.5s.
Robert, I have a 5'er as well. 14.5k dry and live in the south. I switched from factory 10plys to a (sailun tires) 14Ply. Man what a difference, I can almost turn 90degress without axle wrap. They 10plys the camper companies are putting on- need to come off asap.
Yes, the 225/70R19.5 is a 31.9" outer diameter so as long as you have the 235/85R16 you should have no fitment issues.
Why not go to a LT type of tire
LT type tires may be okay for some applications. I would use LT tires before ST. I say that with over 20 years of personal tire construction experience and over 90 years combined in the founders of the company. The higher profile design of 16" tires (any type or ply) and lighter-duty construction lends itself to being more susceptible to over-flexing when turning and maneuvering. This can often result in belts that become fatigued and fail. There are things that can be done to reduce the risk of failure. The most obvious is to maintain proper air pressure, don't overload, and keep your speed below the speed rating on the tire. Additionally, most of these type trailers are not being weighed when loaded. In order to ensure the tires are not overloaded, I recommend tires rated for 10-20% more than your GAWR. So if you have 6K axles I would use tires rated for 3,300-3,600/lbs each on the axle. This provides a safety margin that is typically not present on the stock tires. LT tires and tires size 17.5 and smaller have one test standard and tires over 17.5 have a higher breaking energy test standard. So to get a truck commercial grade product, upgrading to 19.5s is one of the best options for the reasons explained in the video. We're happy to provide application specific recommendations as well.
Dont LTs have a thinner sidewall for ride comfort on your vehicle as a ST trailer tire uses different rubber compounds for a stiffer sidewall for carrying weight?
@@oilypatch323 Both LT and ST tires have similar construction. In most instances, when you break them down side by side, the ST is actually thinner and more pliant. If you look at the sidewall ply rating, they are typically 2-ply, and both are either polyester or nylon. Once you go to the 14 ply rated 16" then you get into the steel radial ply. I can't answer the rubber compound question thoroughly. There are different grades of carbon black, various class synthetic polymers, natural rubber, and more that factor into both the sidewall and tread compounds. Most manufacturers do not share this information. I can tell you that a 10-ply rated LT tire and 10-ply rated ST tire have virtually the same thickness and construction appearance when broken down. LT having a much deeper tread depth. According to a survey by Highways magazine in 2010, 32% of trailer owners reported premature tire failure problems. To put that into perspective, tire manufactures will often recall a tire model at less than 1% failure rate on passenger vehicles.
Hi,
I have 5 cars hauler kaufman.
I have 235/75/17.7.
What you recommend to ugrade.
Size?
Regards
Can you tell me the loaded weight? What is the distance from center axle to center axle? What brand tire are you running now? With this information I can make a better suggestion.
The towing capacity of a car, light truck or my Kenworth is irrelevant as to the axle carrying capacity of the trailer. The problem as I see it is that you cannot buy a quality non commercial trailer tire in North America other than garbage Chi-Com crap that nobody wants to stand behind or you can feel comfortable going down the road with. Unfortunately all most people want is "Cheap Shit" and the outcome is always the same...you get what you pay for...enjoy folks you reap what you sow.
You hit the nail on the head! People come into my shop when the factory tired wear out at 70k and bulk at the replacement price so buy a cheaper tire and bitch when they wear out in 20k! You get what you pay for! I don't buy cheap tires! I travel to much to have to worry about blow outs at 2 am!
Actually, for some of us, we have no choice but to buy the China Bombs. We have nothing else in a 13" tire to choose from.
Yes you can. Forget ST tires. Buy light truck tires. I run Michelin LTX tires, load range E. Load rated at 3,995 lbs each.
do you make a 13" for the 2013 jayco 213?,,thanks i need new tires!
Unfortunately, no. At this time we are focusing on the 16" tire replacements. We will be working on a better solution for the smaller size tires in the future. We'll keep you posted!
Definitely would be interest from those of us with RV's as well.
@@BoarWheelCompany Its been over 2 years and still no products for smaller type wheels?
@@Jpb6583 Unfortunately, no. Our plan after the 6 on 5.5" wheels for trailers is the 3/4 ton and 1-ton truck 19.5" wheels.
Wl your 19" wheel and tires fit on my 2007 jayco designer fifth wheel?
There are a few model options with the Designer, however, if you have the 8 bolt lug pattern now and currently have 235/80R16 or 235/85R16 tires, our 19.5" wheels and 225/70R19.5 options will fit that application beautifully.
@@BoarWheelCompany 8 lug 235/80r16 load e is what i have now, the gap between the tires is abt 2" wide
@@johnlee8985 Okay, from the center of the front axle to the center of the back axle we like to see 34" to make the change to the 19.5s. If you have that, we should be good to go.
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What would five mounted tires cost?
For the steel Rancher wheels with Continental tires, it will be around $2,500 for 5 mounted and delivered. Cruiser 67 Aluminum with Continental will run about $3,000. There are less expensive tire options available if preferred.
Can you tell me what tires i need for a 22GN Big Tex trailer? Would love some of yours tires!
You'll have to check clearance above the tires between the tread and deck. The stock tire is a 235/80R16 (31" outer diameter) and I would recommend the 225/70R19.5 (32" outer diameter). If you have the clearance when loaded, this tire on our Hooper Dual wheel would be the ideal setup. Thanks
@@BoarWheelCompany do you have to change the rim
@@kimpetersen8178 yes, to run 19.5 you need the bigger rim.
My step deck trailer is 245/70r17.5 what could o do? I blow out quite a lot. 2 tires today
What brand tire are you running? What is your loaded weight? Can you tell me your spacing from center axle to center axle?
@@BoarWheelCompany I’m not sure about the center axle. My trailer is 53” step deck low profile tri axle but normally lifting the last axle unless I need them.
Tire brand is Bridgestone. Just bought the trailer so I think I need to change the tires eventually just. That side wall thickness makes sense but I really don’t k much about tires
@@truckandtea Most Bridgestone 17.5s have a J speed rating (62/mph) as you go over that speed your weight capacity drops. I'd probably recommend going to the Continental HTL2 in the 245/70R17.5 which has an L speed rating (75/mph). I'd avoid tires with a J speed rating. You can see this in the service description which will say something like 142/140K. The letter is the speed rating. (K is 68/mph).
@@BoarWheelCompany I just checked the picture driver sent me. It says. 143/141k
Just checked there website. It’s r238. Mc speed 65. N it’s J. Since I’m gonna change them all anyways try to put sth better rated, that brand u mention I’ll look at it thanks a lot sir
I only have 6 lug axles what can I do to upgrade
There are a couple of options. One, you can change out your hubs to an 8 lug hub. Many of the axle spindles that fit the 6 lug hub also fit the 8 lug hub. Two, we have 6-lug steel wheels coming in August in black or silver. They will be the Rancher wheel with a 6 lug design.
The easy way is to not use those Chinese poc's....
What about 205/75R-14? The ones that come on the trailer are Chinese made 4 ply. Yuk
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Unfortunately, we don’t get into addressing sizes that small. I agree they are junk but again there are not many quality options for the 14” that I can recommend.
How do those compare to 14 ply 235s or 17.5 16 or 18 ply.
There are a few considerations when comparing them to make the best decision for your application. For tire sizes 17.5 and smaller the test standard to get a 14 ply rating is lower than sizes greater then 17.5 (6,000 inch pounds of breaking force vs. 18,000+ 19.5 and larger). FedEx, UPS, Ford, Dodge, all the major companies opt to us 19.5s instead of 14pr 16" or 17.5". These are companies with multi-billion dollar R&D devisions and they've decided that the best tire for medium-duty (larger then Light Duty or 1-ton trucks) is 19.5s. 19.5s can, but don't always, have higher speed ratings and greater options for tire designs. Every manufacturer makes 19.5s and you can get them with 87/mph speed ratings and 7 year warranty. They are retread-able and regroovable. They also typically have a deeper tread depth of a higher grade tread rubber.
My 5th wheel TH has 235 80r16 e and want to go to a G. To go to the 19's you have will I then need a new rim? Also, in your opinion, over the winter does it help to get load off tires?
Yes, you do need the 19.5" rim to upgrade to a commercial grade 225/70R19.5 truck tire. I think it definitely doesn't hurt to get the weight off the tires, especially if they'll be sitting for an extended period of time (6 months or more). Preventative measures are always a good idea.
No, just go to Harbor Freight and get a wheel stretcher..Works on thr same principle as their pipe stretcher except the stretching load is applied radially rather than longitudinally. Follow the included directions reliiously. Good luck!
@@mesutter Too funny!
What about 17 1/2 inch
17.5 are definitely a step of from any 16" options. It really comes down to what you need for the weight, speed, and distances you travel. I have customers every day that want to upgrade from 17.5 to 19.5 for the reduced revs per mile, greater availability, and generally higher speed ratings. 17.5s are shorter so you get greater revs per mile (increased heat built-up potential), generally have a 62/mph speed rating (J) and are trailer specific so can create a greater challenge in acquiring a comparable replacement when out on the road. 19.5s are on most medium-duty trucks from FedEx to Ford F450 and larger. They provide greater replacement choices not just in numbers available but also in tread designs available. Speed rating average from 75 up 87/mph. It really comes down to the specific application. In some cases, the 17.5 will still be your best option to upgrade from 16".
What do you suggest for a 4400 lb. 19 ft travel trailer with 225/75/15s? (Single axle)
For that size and weight, I'd probably look at the Goodyear Endurance 225/75R15 LRE.
@@BoarWheelCompany Thanks for replying so quickly. And for the advice.
Aren’t the Goodyear Endurance tires called “ china bombs”?
@@Everetttango1 Nope. Made in USA.
Just curious, do you have dually options. And do you have -/+ 0 offset wheels?
We do have a dual wheel option. It has a 5.5" offset. You can find them here: www.boarwheel.com/hooper-2dw/. All of our single wheels have a 0" offset. Thanks!
lol 110 pounds wow it air up 10 more pounds so no bounce to tire its rock hard when it blowes it tears shit up
First things first !!!! Make sure you have a tire that is rated to carry the load you are hauling !!! Only larger trailers will take those 19.5 inch rims !!! Then make sure you do NOT have those cheap ass chinese ST trailer tires, use a good Lt truck tire of as large a tire as made or will fit of the highest load range available and keep the air to the TIRE mfg'rs recommended pressure.
Yup. You can often get the upgrade you need just switching to an LT tire.
Can your Please state in writing what tire you are talking about?
The size he is talking about doesn't really matter. Its the 14 ply tire he is talking about. The tire is a G rated tire. Point is stay away from a E rated tire. Go with more tire plies. Use an F rating or higher.
The specific tire mentioned in the video is a 225/7019.5 LRG. All 14PR 225s have the same weight rating but vary on their speed rating. For example, the Triangle pictured has a 75/mph rating and the Continental we now offer have an 87/mph rating. All low-profile 19.5s provide the benefits mentioned.
I never drive over 65 mph towing a large trailer. That's asking for trouble.@@BoarWheelCompany
@@BoarWheelCompany Thank you, Sir.
235/16
get what you pay for
Oh and 225$ a peace
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@@montuckypaddler4318 *a piece
@@moncorp1 *apiece - Look it up.
Especially not ecspecially
George Canvin / most people say exspecially
Sonny Dey you’re painting “most people” with the mispronunciation brush. I don’t know anyone that mispronounces “especially”.
George Canvin / it's really common on the east coast where the Knee-grow race prevails..... Noam say-N...... Noam say-N.......Where are you from ??
LOL
Slow the hell down. Stop going 70+ mph.
Wow. Stupid has once again hit the internet. There are many commercial tire providers for 16" wheels. Yes bad tires are not reliable. Thats why they are referred to as bad tires. Buy good tires. Problem solved. Hope you sell a bunch of your 19.5 wheels based on your life.
We actually have many customers who purchased the “best” 16” they could and had experienced frequent blowouts still. 14PR G614s not holding up on their triple axle trailers. Once they made the switch, no more issues. Not every trailer will need them but with a reported 38% of trailer owners reporting tire failure problems, the issue needs addressed. On larger trailers and no 16” tire possesses the same test standards or performance abilities as 19.5-24.5 truck tires.