Jaguar F Type Buying Guide: Part 2 | Common Issues With The Jaguar F Type (2)
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2022
- In this video we look at some more common issues with the Jaguar F Type, following the great comments from Part 1. Thank you all that commented
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you are the only person that actually goes into depth on the f-type, everyone else just waffles on about its sound but this is so much more useful
Great feedback, thank you Kieran. Happy driving!
I've had the last 6 years in the f type r
. any questions ask me. I've had zero problems mechanically with this beauty and trying to decide whether or not to purchase one
My jaguar hasn't broken down or shown a fault code now for 5 months! Mind you as its a convertible and its winter it has been in storage all that time. I love that car! Used to be a Porsche man but now I'm a convert to the F-Type so much so that I'm buying another one, a Coupe. My wife askes "is that in place of the other one then?" - Silly question that. No its as well as!!!!
So glad you mentioned the battery issue. This is an issue with all modern cars. Systems stay powered even when the car is not driven.
Absolutely no cap - this helped me in deciding to buy my FTYPE - and now I’m just enjoying my purchase and such issues shouldn’t deter you from getting one !
This along with part 1 and the running costs video was perfect timing with my own search for an F-Type. Both videos were immensely helpful in what I should expect and be prepared for in terms of running costs and common issues. Keep doing what you're doing as your style and production is only going to get better!
P.S Those bronze accents are insane
Thanks for a great comment! I’m glad that you’ve found this useful! Have you managed to get your F Type yet?
@@MrGB_UK Not yet, still looking around but I have one that ticks all boxes, so now comes the fun part of speaking to the dealer and doing that whole song and dance of negotiations.
Very informal 2nd part MrGB. I have a few things to add if I may, firstly the panel gap problem is mostly caused by improper closure, always close clamshell bonnets from front centre rather than from either side. Secondly the low battery problem when things start playing up, simply disconnect the battery in the boot (don't forget the f type has two) leave disconnected for a couple of minutes then re connect giving it a re-boot, problem solved. Thirdly Throw the OEM cats away and get yourself some 200 cell sports cats you wont regret it.
Thanks for watching, and for the comment Dave. The clam shell is definitely closed, but I certainly agree that it’s not the easiest to close properly! Interesting point about the two batteries. I think that’s only the earlier models, if I’m not mistaken? AFAIK, the latter models only have the one in the boot. As for the OEM cats, I couldn’t agree more. It will definitely be my approach if I have further issues. Happy driving!
These guides are very informative and quite honestly has eased my fear about grabbing an F type. Hopefully by early next year I can purchase one before June of next year. The engine, the sound, the looks, the experience of the car is worth the price no matter what. It was either this or an M6 and unfortunately at the time someone nabbed both before I had the chance. But now that your putting these videos out, it's allowing me to make a more informed purchase and giving an idea of life with the vehicle. Great work friend 😎👍
Thanks for a great comment. All of the points you have mentioned are exactly what drew me to this car. The looks, the noise, the performance, all at a price that is more reasonable than most other brands. It all adds to the theatre of a great driving experience. I’m glad the videos have provided some benefit - I had so many questions when buying. Happy shopping and I hope you find the right car!
I’m in the same boat. Looking to pick one up in around 6 months. You ever snag yours?
Hey just to let you know reguarding the rear differential, there's a yellow plastic breather tube on the top of the differential that will get plugged up with crud, when that happens the pressure in the differential builds up when you drive it hard and than pops the main seal in the front of the differential causing you to lose fluid and your differential. You just have go in with something like a paper clip and give that breather tube a root canal.
Haha, love the root canal analogy! Thanks for the advice! Happy driving
Regarding the Y-pipe, there are now aftermarket all-aluminum replacements available.
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What source would you recommend
Is the really necessary?
Absolutely good analyses as I probably would like to own an F Type. ✌️👍
Good videos. I have a 2014 F-type since new, 27k miles and done all the things you have mentioned in both videos (except cats and O2 sensors) as well as a few other little services like trans fluid etc before they became a problem and never had mine in the shop. I do have my own lift and enjoy working on it. In all been a great car and still love it and still one of the best looking cars in the world btw.
Brilliant CZcams as usual, I don't have a f-type been a porper lol, I do have a jaguar xe r-sport and
Think your CZcams channel is very entertaining.
All the best and keep giving ?.
Thanks for these two excellent videos. I have a 2016 RWD F Type. It's one of those that sort of received a make over. The buttons inside are silver, not bronze and the infotainment is the updated version. Thes two videos are informative and useful. At least I know what to look out for. I would like to know whether time or mileage affects these cars more as I'm on 29000km with a 6 year old car.
Excellent video 🙂
The good news is that the majority of the few potential issues that come with an F-Type are easy and cheap to prevent or fix.
Exactly
.........and my depression continues. This just screams "STAY AWAY" to me and yet here I am again looking at more reasons for me to learn how I will never have one of these in my garage. I just love the design. Wish I could get the shell and interior of the F type and then gut it with all new mechanical parts,....lol. Great job once again on the video and full details behind potential problems with these cars. You are also correct when saying its not fair to pin many of these issues to just the Jag as ANYTHING mechanical (with time) WILL eventually break down. Only problem is when it happens to expensive luxury vehicles,..the repair costs are equally as expensive in most cases.....unless you can get under the cars yourself and do the repairs.
maybe you should get a 4.2 XK, they are toyota landcruiser level reliable. put 25k miles on mine with 125k miles over the past 2 years and only done some suspension bushings
I’ve considered an Ftype on and off for a few years but can’t bring myself to push the trigger due to JLR products in general being horrendous and spare parts being long delivery times. The video just reinforces my thoughts
I own an XFR and an F-Type R - both are very reliable. That stated, the issues you cite have absolutely hit the F-Type… replaced o2 sensors multiple times and had to replace catalytic converter on one side at 14k miles. As you mentioned. They’re all exhaust system problems. The other issue I’ve experienced is that the car battery can die after using the ODB2 port for emissions tests - I’ve learned this is because the power management system doesn’t turn off - it’s a software glitch…. The fix is to unhook the battery for a few minutes and then hook back up and it will reset
Thanks for a great comment. I’ve suffered the battery issue myself and exactly what you’ve said there fixed the issue. Happy driving!
Was the glitch removed for newer models? What year is your f type?
@@kshitijratna6462 I don’t believe the battery issue was ever resolved on the Gen 1 F-Type
Great info, I have a scheduled oil change I'm having undertaken by a recommended Jag service provider in Plymouth. I have also scheduled for a diff oil change just after xmas with the same provider. The car is currently on 38K miles and has a full comprehensive service history. I keep meaning to do a video(s) with my R but if I'm not driving the car I'm either working or sleeping :)
On trickle chargers: we have 4 cars, all of which park at home with a trickle charger attached & the ones I use also recondition the battery.
The reason for this, as pointed-out on Car SOS, is that if not on a trickle charger the battery actually starts to deteriorate after a couple of days. I used one of my chargers to recondition a dying battery on a neighbours car in January 2021 & the same battery is still in the car.
Certainly worth £30(ish) to maintain battery life.
Re seat bolster, as with any sports car with bucket type seats, there is method into getting inside and out of the car. Namely always place your hand on the bolster and one leg at a time, using one leg to carry your weight, the other to move - thereby avoiding rubbing.
yea i just had to replace a coolant pipe that was under the supercharger - 2017 F type S. expensive and tough job... had the guy change the differential fluid also at same time. panel gap with the hood can be slowed down by grabbing the middle of the hood always to open and close, never grab the sides :)
Great video. I happen to love the original face a lot more. A lot. So do my colleagues/car friends.
The original seats show no signs of wear in my car...meguiars every few months. No wear. I think the first seats were of much tougher stuff.
My 2014 v6s convertible. 39k miles. I've only had to replace 02 sensors.
I have had my f-type in the shop for 3 weeks now; blew the water pump and the water pump valves on the drag strip; took 1 race.
You sound like Jeremy Wade From River Monsters lol
damn, the watch😳😳😳 very nice 👏
I was thinking about buying one of these however I’m so glad I watch this video. Now I’m going to go with the Lexus LC500
I've hear the panel gap can be avoided by closing the bonnet from the front instead of the side..................
I don’t want to jinx myself, but as a word of encouragement to fellow F Type owners I own a 2016 V6 Jag F Type with 45,000 on her and I have had no issues. I think that it is important to note that F Type owners need to be cognizant of the fact that these are GT cars and not track cars. It’s not a Porsche. It was designed for longer trips with the ability to haul ass if you need to. I believe if you drive them this way they reward you with reliability versus tracking them. Of course this is just my opinion but so far so good. Drive safe all.
My lads just bought one…First thing I noticed was the panel gaps on the front end,seems it’s normal..Beautiful cars thou..
In addition to the battery voltage Degradation, I would only add that is also a good idea to make annual ground point cleaning and corrosion preventing with simple and cheap petroleum jelly.
It's not just a Jaguar issue as I also do this preventive measure on my Fiesta. It's a universal issue of modern cars and electronic technology.
Thats a great shout and one thing that's often overlooked when diagnosing electrical gremlins. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I've driven high performance cars most of my life. I'm ok with "premature" failure of parts. I expect it. I am excited to be getting back into Euro-performance. Don't get me wrong, I love my Camaros, but damn, this is a beautiful car.
Thank you! This was on my list. I can now scratch that off!
Glad it was helpful. They're not bad cars - these are just good things to keep an eye out for. Happy shopping
Try to check out the great XK 5.0 n/a its got great power I have this car with only 34000 miles over 12 years and its a HERITAGE model there are only 25 of these coupe and 25 covetables so very rare.
First thank you for some of best informative F-Type videos I can find on You Tube! As a perspective buyer I have a couple of questions. Do you know exactly what year the exhaust update is included from the manufacturer? Also is there a way to delete the update if I was to buy a previous model that had it done? To me the pop's and crackles are the selling point for me.
I’m glad it’s been helpful for you and thanks for the comment. The exhaust update came as standard on the face lifted models from 2018 onwards (not the new shape with the new headlights, but the 2018 refresh). There is no way of removing the software update without having your ECU remapped. You can tell if the car has had the software update, by putting the car in dynamic mode and then turning it off. When you turn it back on (straight away) if it is still in dynamic mode, you are safe and do not have the dreaded update
Indeed
I’m afraid it has put me off buying one but thank you for sharing all these issues 👍
Sorry to hear that. They’re not bad cars. If you haven’t already, check out my video on reliability and running costs. I love mine and it’s been a great purchase. Happy car hunting!
It’s the panel gaps that alarms me would really take the enjoyment away if that was to happen
First of all, congrats for your videos and channel. I love this car, but what car would you buy first, the Supra or a f-type V6 second hand?
Thanks! I’m a bit biased, and will of course say the Jag. Both are great cars however!
Panel gap, I would say there are a lot of people not understanding the way to open and close the hood/bonnet properly! You should always open by lifting as centre as possible, not by the corner or side.. closing, placing your hands on the hood/bonnet vents and close squarely straight down. Gabs are created by opening and closing by a twisting effect.
Thats a great tip! It’s quite uncommon for a front-hinged bonnet and I guess a lot of people will never have encountered one or how to close one before. Thanks for the comment!
I asked about the panel gap on the day I bought my 2016 F-Type. The dealer mumbled something like it’s supposed to be that way. Well, my car was “tapped” on the right side by a Ford 350 going 5 miles an hour. End story: 10,000 dollars later after the panel was replaced and properly aligned I have no gap. PS: Insurance covered.
First 02 sensor bank 2 went at 12000miles ugh.
How much are the cat/ O2 sensors replacements? And can you put in Katlas pipes or performers pipes and still pass emissions test ?
Interesting bought an F Type R from a Hatfield’s Shrewsbury 2017, it was a replacement for my McLaren 600 LT, not exact like for like, having driven many high performance cars , the F Type is a very good sports GT car no doubt far better than the DB11 i hand on loan for 6 weeks, was relieved about the panel gaps I actually thought my car had been in a previous accident and was going to contact the dealer 😂.
I had a DMS tube on mine which i absolutely luv, may a video to compare tuned vs non tuned 🤔
Thanks for the comment. I’m hoping to go the other way and move into a 600LT. Such a beautiful car! What made you move to the F Type?
@@MrGB_UK Had a 570GT for a year then a 600LT for over 2 years, wife wanted something more comfortable, she has a double hip replacement, 600LT is a ver very different car, full on drivers car , u need to track the car to really appreciate it capabilities , did nordschlifia , V max, Silverstone etc no regrets.
If you are not doing track days, try 570GT , great allrounder 👍.
Obviously warranty an absolute must, would have another one and probably will.
Going to order something else for the track, got some pics on my instagram account 👍
So what rear differential fluid do I use and how often should I get my rear differential fluid changed? I drive a 2017 Jaguar F Type Base model v6
I’m enjoying the videos. Thank you. If I’m being critical….. you registration plates need sorting, as does your camp steering g wheel use. Pull push not slack Alice tickles😉
Any updates coming for anybody purchasing a 2021-2024 models?
Bro that first comment is exactly what’s wrong with my car literally every single thing
My cats failed at 10k miles, it is what it is, but you can get Larini catalysts for $2K so it's not the end of the world when it happens.
What if you Delete the Cats
2015 v6s with 13k miles, no issues other than panel gap. My fix? Drive fast so nobody can see them.
Hi MrGB I am thinking about buying a F type around 2016-17 age as a daily driver would you recommend it or not ?? the complete round trip each day is only approx. 40km mostly motorway driving too. Your thoughts would be great as you own and drive one. Many thanks for the great videos on your car.
This is my question, i really want to daily one, but the only R's i can swing right now are with 45-65k Miles and it kinda puts me off
Great video but notes you put up were mostly too small to read 😢
I swear I'll own one of these in the future.
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is this the V8?
Yes... I am also looking for an F-Type (most likely an "R"...). Unfortunately I am chasing a metal-green one with either brown or black interior. Not that easy.
What you explain does not really scare me.
On the catalytic failures... is there also known about catastrophic engine failure? I heard that if cats break (and I really mean that they break - crumble to pieces), debris can even reach comustion chambers of the engine. Anything like that known? Or is it just that they break?`
Did I miss it - how much is one catalytic converter for the F-Type R?
Thanks for watching and commenting Mat. That colour combo sounds absolutely stunning! I would love a BRG F-Type with the Tan brown interior. Pure class!
I've not heard of a lot of cases of catastrophic engine failure. I think one or two cases have surfaced on the FB groups, but out of a few dozen thousand cars, thats not a lot. Huge factors, such as environment, servicing, care etc need to be considered when looking at engine failure. I can't say I've heard of the catalytic components working their way back into the engine. The exhaust gases flow outwards, so it feels as if it would be hard/impossible for them to go 'up-stream'
I paid a shade over £1800 for 1 catalytic replacement (JLR main dealer prices). Aftermarket ones are half this (sports cats)
Happy driving and thanks for watching!
@@MrGB_UK This is basically true - and it is also not. Also I do not know if this is really a thing for the Jag Engines - this is why I asked. It is perfectly possible and the reason for that is either EGR or the internal version of that (I think this is also used by Jag) which is working with valve overlap (intake/ exhaust). Unfortunately I do not find proper explanation for that (at least not in english language) other than a facebook vid from Bamford Rose on topic "Explain Catalyst failure on V12 engines? - QOTW #9" (I write this that detailed because I do not know if I can just post a link/URL here so you can easily find it, just copy and paste it to google)... he is an Aston guy but the problem can exist on any brand/make/model. So this is not my phantasy... a pal of mine had such an issue on a Subaru engine. It is known on Aston, too and I think I read about it also in Porsche Forums. As said... any brand/ mode may be effected, if EGR or Internal EGR (valve overlap) is applied to the engine. On top of what Bamford Rose is explaining I also read about resonance frequencies in the volume of the exhaust gas, it is not really flowing, it is more waving. Either way...
This is why I just wanted to know if it is known to Jags as well - as you already mention, that cats fail more frequently my guess was "oh... maybe those have catastrophic engine failures to CAT debris as well?".
My F-Type is BRG and that was an absolute MUST. It’s beautiful in the sunlight and one of the features most commented on. I wanted BRG since I was 21 and was lucky to have that choice here in Reno, Nevada. Unfortunately, the dealership has dropped selling Jags because they are going all electric. What’s the view on all electric? I want that giddy up zoom and would never trade her in.
@@elleanormccoy1492 Hi! I am not down for electric so far. My brother is, but we do not agree here. BRG Jag would still be one of my favs, congrats if you already habe such - and yes... keep it!
What is the cost to replace the catalytic converter? I have an XKR but have been looking at Ftypes. Weighing up if it's a case of better the devil you know.
Looks like around $3000 per cat
Thanks for watching and commenting Hugh. I paid £1853 for a new car from Jaguar direct. I believe you can get two non OEM replacements for this price. Happy driving
In the US at least, the O2 sensors are covered by something like an 8-10 warranty (due to being part of the emissions system). As a result, owners "should" be able to have the dealer replace them for free until that time is up.
That’s a really good warranty length. As far as I know the UK doesn’t have such a luxury. Once the standard three year warranty is up, you’re on your own, sadly (unless you purchase an extended warranty). Thanks for the comment!
That is correct. It’s a free fix under warranty. In fact my F-Type goes in next week for that. Outside cost is around $240 plus labor. Not bad.
Hi, I just bought an f type r 2019. Does it burns engine oil? I saw it recommend 0W20. Do you think that’s thick enough? Thanks
Hi Jeff. Mine doesn’t burn oil. It only gets oil during the service and holds its level well. Yes, 0w20 is what is recommended. If you want to be extra sure, it will say on the oil filler cap. I hope you get it solved and happy driving 👍🏻
@@MrGB_UK thanks brother!
Is there a way to know if the car has had a software update that has nerfed the sound?
Yes. If you put the car in dynamic mode and turn it off the car, it should remain in dynamic mode if only off for a short period of time. If it doesn't, you likely have the software update
@@MrGB_UK Legend thanks
If the battery volts are a little low, surely this is ONLY a problem prior to starting the engine…..once the engine is started the Alternator should supply a sufficient voltage level to run the Ignition and Ancillaries at the correct voltage, and Charge the battery…… if the voltage levels are to low to power any component in the car correctly while the engine is running, this is surely an Alternator problem, not the battery.
Discovered there is a bug/feature with the bms when the obd connector is used (e.g during a service) it can get confused. Solution is to simply disconnect the battery completely and charge until full. Suspect many garages are telling customers that their battery is dead and needs replacing in such cases.
Have you ceramic coated the car if so do a video on it would be good 👍
How do you know if o2 sensors and catalytic converters are bad?
You should get a warning light (EML) on the dash board. You can then have the code read to understand what the fault is. Thanks for the comment!
@@MrGB_UK I love how these cars sound and look like. But it's the reliability that makes me nervous
@@rsstnnr76 An understandable concern. They're not horrific, in my opinion. Considering they are bordering on Supercar performacne terriotiry, you dont have the supercar running and maintenance costs. Jaguar is a mainstream brand, and parts & labour reflect that. Yes, I have focussed on the negatives in the video, but you get common issues with every car. If you get a well looked after example with good service history, you can't do much more!
@@MrGB_UK Why are they so unreliable? You'd think they'd do everything they can to get rid of that stereotype.
I drive like a twat and at 93k miles my cats are still fine.
Panel gaps - It's an aluminium car, not built like a steel car.
A super light 13.2V LiFe battery is the answer.
The car is so heavy that the small weight difference isn't a good enough reason for most owners to switch.
@@kurtbilinski1723
Its a huge weight difference. At 3600 pounds car is the lightest V8 convertible of all time.
Wow , that has put me off ! High maintenance. Not for me !
New car and the same time a project build too many comer being cut on such a phenomenal piece of machinery
Only disappointing thing is these manufacturers have been building automobiles for almost a hundred years & to think that most haven't been able to build a truly bullet proof automobile seems unfathomable given their history & so called knowledge of producing vehicles! I can't yet understand how these companies still have reliability issues when they're developing engines drivetrains & the like. You test these automobiles numerous times under all these conditions but still produce inferior or unreliable vehicles to me is insulting! Faulty or weak parts,short cutting & just being plain lazy is unacceptable especially when your shelling out 50-90 grand on a vehicle rated as a luxury or performance automobile! I believe in integrity & merit not just panache and commercials! Beautiful automobile no doubt but the nuances take away from pure owners delight in a way to me
If you're going to cry and bitch about how expensive it is to fix a luxury sports car, then perhaps don't get one.
Lol