As a guitarist who loves your channel, I lost it at the point when Adam said “I’m not gonna say spend all your money on gear” and Peter said “we’re not a guitar podcast!”
I can't imagine how much the Steinway B they have in their studio is worth. Guitarist gear can get cumulatively expensive, but then all it takes for pianists is pursuing one high quality grand piano... 💀
This episode inspired me to immediately sit down at a piano and spend a half hour slowly playing diminished scales in contrary motion, which necessitated developing a novel personal understanding of the scales - as the first four notes of two different ii chords a tritone apart - undoubtedly making me a slightly better player from this moment on.
OMG. I've watched a number of your episodes and absolutely love them. I had no idea you guys were in St Louis, and then when you said Peter's dad was a violist with the St Louis Symphony and his friend's father was Roger Davenport (also with the St Louis Symphony) I just about lost it! LOL. I was a PhD student at Washington University between 1983 and 1988 and studied with Robert Wykes. I had the pleasure of meeting Peter's dad on at least one occasion (a super nice guy), and saw Roger perform on several occasions (the first time I ever saw Berio's Sequenza for trombone performed live was Roger's performance in St Louis). [And, of course, I heard them both perform frequently with the Symphony back in the Slatkin days.] Anyway, I went on to teach classical composition at a university here in Texas. After retiring a few years ago, I decided I'd like to become a mediocre jazz piano and jazz trumpet player, so I've tuned into your channel and a few others and have been joyfully practicing. Sorry for the overly long post. The older I get, the smaller the music world becomes. My name's George Chave. You guys are the best!!
Yay long episodes!! You all are very comfortable in the podcasting medium by now and I think the longer episode allows more space for the learning and the fun banter/stories, both in time and aesthetically :) Love from Maine
Love how Adam and Peter relates everything they teach to aspects of meditation and way of life (living meditation), which is to be in the present moment, rather than going to the mind. To connect to LOVE (true selves, pure awareness) which is already there and always will be there. Playng in the present moment as observer is just magical !! Thanks for all amazing tips about practising which I will apply. Thank you so much
Thank you guys for bringing me an hour of joy this morning! I couldn’t stop smiling for the first time in a while listening to Alone Together at the end, Both of your solos were wonderful!
This was awesome! It would be really insightful to hear what you guys practised when you were at a more intermediate level too. I do think that would be more applicable to many of us who are still mastering voicings, scale patterns and all the rest of it
This was sooo great. Having Adam grill Peter on his practice routine is priceless to me. Peter's routine with the fundamentals would be so good for me and while I think I have known this for a long time, this was inspiring for me to actually function this way. I'm actually super curious about all sorts of things now. Like how do you guys work on voicings aside from the information in the courses. Is there a routine you guys do for that? Love the longer podcast, but also love the rhythm of twice a week!
Been playing piano lately and just learn all the chords and trying to learn about harmony to help me play saxophone. Piano is really a beautiful instrument! You guys are awesome
Playing the cycle, up and down, (inverting 5ths and 4ths) in one octave, is a great (the best?) ear and finger warm-up for improvisors and students seeking to develop their ears.
I think it's important when you guys recommend that people should transcribe, that you mention that it's not necessary to become a great musician. I studied with Mick Goodrick and he never transcribed. David Binney, Stefon Harris, and many other great jazz musicians never transcribed.
Mulgrew Miller & Aaron Parks also come to mind as rarely transcribing....but I've encountered so many great players that transcribed extensively, or I should clarify LEARNED solos, usually by ear, without actually transcribing. It's not necessary to learn solos to become a great musician, but it's likely an important piece of the puzzle for most players.
@pianopeter I think too many people in jazz education push transcribing too much and never mention the greats that never transcribed, or did very little. Jim Hall said he only transcribed two Charlie Christian solos.
@@MrThinkingahead I notice when you compare jazz musicians that transcribed a bunch to those that never did, the ones that transcribed play a lot of licks and the ones that didn't actually improvise. Mike Stern seems to play lots of licks and Mick Goodrick always had fresh ideas. Of course this isn't true in every case, but this seems to be true a lot of times.
Loved this episode. A bucket load of great advice to digest here. Really gets across the mindset of what good practice is whilst leaving it open and flexible. So interesting to hear Peter and Adam's different perspectives and Adam's shock at some of Peter's bombshells 🙂
Super enjoyable conversation! So many little gems along the way, including the "slow scales" approach to connecting with the instrument more deeply. And nice playing at the end, too! Thanks!
One thing I observe to be a common trait of successful musicians is they have musician friends. I took ten years of piano lessons from a sweet neighborhood teacher, but only learned classical solo recital pieces that took me the full school year to learn. I didn’t learn any theory, chord progressions, or how to play with others.
This is the perfect episode length for you guys. They all should be this length. The 20-25 minute episodes always feel a little bit rushed because you guys (okay only Adam lol Peter’s along for the ride) are trying to get to everything. Having a whole hour to work with loosens everything up immensely.
Sometimes I’m watching tv and there’s this amazing new music or some piece curious how it breaks down and lucky to have a keyboard in the same room and will wind up playing for up to an hour or more trying to figure things out. Those are fun times. Does that count as practice?
That guy at the beginning was riding on a One Wheel. That’s what it’s called. It’s kind of like a Segway, but with one wheel and you ride it a little bit more like a skateboard. They’re pretty cool.
Tha section on the way Peter practises is one of the most useful things I’ve heard since I first got into music. Really valuable stuff. What are the key points? Maybe: practise slowly, practise technical things, practise forms and melodies rather than soloing. Is that about right?
Can't remember where I heard it, but like Peter practicing slowly is always the last thing to do in a practice session. I guess because it is the best way to be the most accurate.
"Can of corn." When the can of corn at the grocery is on the top shelf, you reach and reach and jump and touch it and poke it and nudge it closer and closer to the edge of that top shelf until it falls straight down and you catch it, easiest catch in the world, couldn't have missed it if you tried.
Happy practice is a thing. And I would say those words and term it as such if they were indoctrinated as such. I like practicing especially because I’m 25 and believe I can make some really nice jazz music for my generation so I have to find new creative ways to practice
As a guitarist who loves your channel, I lost it at the point when Adam said “I’m not gonna say spend all your money on gear” and Peter said “we’re not a guitar podcast!”
haha right? Why guitarists, why?
I can't imagine how much the Steinway B they have in their studio is worth. Guitarist gear can get cumulatively expensive, but then all it takes for pianists is pursuing one high quality grand piano... 💀
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This episode inspired me to immediately sit down at a piano and spend a half hour slowly playing diminished scales in contrary motion, which necessitated developing a novel personal understanding of the scales - as the first four notes of two different ii chords a tritone apart - undoubtedly making me a slightly better player from this moment on.
OMG. I've watched a number of your episodes and absolutely love them. I had no idea you guys were in St Louis, and then when you said Peter's dad was a violist with the St Louis Symphony and his friend's father was Roger Davenport (also with the St Louis Symphony) I just about lost it! LOL. I was a PhD student at Washington University between 1983 and 1988 and studied with Robert Wykes. I had the pleasure of meeting Peter's dad on at least one occasion (a super nice guy), and saw Roger perform on several occasions (the first time I ever saw Berio's Sequenza for trombone performed live was Roger's performance in St Louis). [And, of course, I heard them both perform frequently with the Symphony back in the Slatkin days.] Anyway, I went on to teach classical composition at a university here in Texas. After retiring a few years ago, I decided I'd like to become a mediocre jazz piano and jazz trumpet player, so I've tuned into your channel and a few others and have been joyfully practicing. Sorry for the overly long post. The older I get, the smaller the music world becomes. My name's George Chave. You guys are the best!!
Please don’t stop uploading twice a week. 🥺🙏🏽
Amen🤗
The hour long format is perfect, more extended episodes please!
coming soon...
if you upload less but make the podcasts an hour long each i would not complain at all. really enjoyed this episode
Don’t give them the idea of uploading less! 😂😂😂 but I also love the longer pod
yes do longer episodes pls
Gala. I can’t believe this is free. Thank you guys so much for all the lessons. You’ve really expanded my musical horizons.
it's not free: see GALA, and thx for ur payment :)
Yay long episodes!! You all are very comfortable in the podcasting medium by now and I think the longer episode allows more space for the learning and the fun banter/stories, both in time and aesthetically :)
Love from Maine
agreed davie
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Love how Adam and Peter relates everything they teach to aspects of meditation and way of life (living meditation), which is to be in the present moment, rather than going to the mind. To connect to LOVE (true selves, pure awareness) which is already there and always will be there. Playng in the present moment as observer is just magical !! Thanks for all amazing tips about practising which I will apply.
Thank you so much
Oooooh YAAAY!! An hour episode. That makes me happy!
I feel like you got deeper and more personal/practical/real in this longer episode. Good stuff
51:50 "you can't information your way to be being a better player" brilliant , can anyone elaborate on that?
Stay tuned. We're going to do a whole episode on this.
Thank you guys for bringing me an hour of joy this morning! I couldn’t stop smiling for the first time in a while listening to Alone Together at the end, Both of your solos were wonderful!
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Excellent session, love the longer/introspective format. GALA!
This was awesome! It would be really insightful to hear what you guys practised when you were at a more intermediate level too. I do think that would be more applicable to many of us who are still mastering voicings, scale patterns and all the rest of it
Just study the 2-5-1 and all it's nuances design. That's where me am at currently. Oh yeah and a book of chords and a book on voicings.
This was sooo great. Having Adam grill Peter on his practice routine is priceless to me. Peter's routine with the fundamentals would be so good for me and while I think I have known this for a long time, this was inspiring for me to actually function this way.
I'm actually super curious about all sorts of things now. Like how do you guys work on voicings aside from the information in the courses. Is there a routine you guys do for that?
Love the longer podcast, but also love the rhythm of twice a week!
OMG, jazzing all over the Suzuki I songs🤣 that's excellent
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Been playing piano lately and just learn all the chords and trying to learn about harmony to help me play saxophone. Piano is really a beautiful instrument! You guys are awesome
Playing the cycle, up and down, (inverting 5ths and 4ths) in one octave, is a great (the best?) ear and finger warm-up for improvisors and students seeking to develop their ears.
oh an hour long episode, is it my birthday again?
Thankss thanks thanks!
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I think it's important when you guys recommend that people should transcribe, that you mention that it's not necessary to become a great musician. I studied with Mick Goodrick and he never transcribed. David Binney, Stefon Harris, and many other great jazz musicians never transcribed.
Completely agree.
Mulgrew Miller & Aaron Parks also come to mind as rarely transcribing....but I've encountered so many great players that transcribed extensively, or I should clarify LEARNED solos, usually by ear, without actually transcribing. It's not necessary to learn solos to become a great musician, but it's likely an important piece of the puzzle for most players.
@pianopeter I think too many people in jazz education push transcribing too much and never mention the greats that never transcribed, or did very little. Jim Hall said he only transcribed two Charlie Christian solos.
@@MrThinkingahead I notice when you compare jazz musicians that transcribed a bunch to those that never did, the ones that transcribed play a lot of licks and the ones that didn't actually improvise. Mike Stern seems to play lots of licks and Mick Goodrick always had fresh ideas. Of course this isn't true in every case, but this seems to be true a lot of times.
@TysonGraf That was a big reason why Metheny, Scofield, Frisell, and many others admired Micks playing.
Loved this episode. A bucket load of great advice to digest here. Really gets across the mindset of what good practice is whilst leaving it open and flexible. So interesting to hear Peter and Adam's different perspectives and Adam's shock at some of Peter's bombshells 🙂
Peter practicing scales slowly blew my mind. 🤯 I’m not even entirely sure why.
You guys are so organised
You bring joy to me whenever I'm Watching
GALA. I like to think of practicing as being gratifying. That would make for a happy result.
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Episode suggestion-What Adam practices
Super enjoyable conversation! So many little gems along the way, including the "slow scales" approach to connecting with the instrument more deeply. And nice playing at the end, too! Thanks!
As always, amazing podcast gentlemen. Love what you're doing!!
One thing I observe to be a common trait of successful musicians is they have musician friends. I took ten years of piano lessons from a sweet neighborhood teacher, but only learned classical solo recital pieces that took me the full school year to learn. I didn’t learn any theory, chord progressions, or how to play with others.
This is the perfect episode length for you guys. They all should be this length. The 20-25 minute episodes always feel a little bit rushed because you guys (okay only Adam lol Peter’s along for the ride) are trying to get to everything. Having a whole hour to work with loosens everything up immensely.
Sometimes I’m watching tv and there’s this amazing new music or some piece curious how it breaks down and lucky to have a keyboard in the same room and will wind up playing for up to an hour or more trying to figure things out. Those are fun times. Does that count as practice?
OMG WHAT YOU PLAYED AT THEN ENDD!!!!!!!!!!
That guy at the beginning was riding on a One Wheel. That’s what it’s called. It’s kind of like a Segway, but with one wheel and you ride it a little bit more like a skateboard. They’re pretty cool.
Yeah Adam, that’s exactly how I play Autumn Leaves. 😂
a whole hour?!! yaaaas!!!
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Tha section on the way Peter practises is one of the most useful things I’ve heard since I first got into music. Really valuable stuff. What are the key points? Maybe: practise slowly, practise technical things, practise forms and melodies rather than soloing. Is that about right?
I love how when they jam they’ll just say “ah” and I have no idea what it’s in response to 😂
Glad for this ep. I plan to start renting practice rooms to put more time into solid practice. Keyboard at home isn't very motivating.
great session ! thanks Open Studio.
love the long pod! what a treat today
TBH we were nervous, so good to hear 😅
GALA 🥳
Can anyone please Tell me what that intro song is?The one they have on every episode
Can't remember where I heard it, but like Peter practicing slowly is always the last thing to do in a practice session. I guess because it is the best way to be the most accurate.
I like the longer podcast
Petition to give Caleb a mic 🗣️
Thanks for a great episode
"Can of corn." When the can of corn at the grocery is on the top shelf, you reach and reach and jump and touch it and poke it and nudge it closer and closer to the edge of that top shelf until it falls straight down and you catch it, easiest catch in the world, couldn't have missed it if you tried.
Can i have the name of the tune they played at the end?
Those eunicycles can move, boy. Get ready to sprint away quickly.
First name: Producer, Last name: Caleb
What is that progression that Adam starts the episode with? That dominant over dominant over dominant… it sounds familiar …
SOMEONE PLEASE WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE TUNE THEY PLAYED? thank you
Alone Together
Gala agreed🫡
An hour a day beats three hours on the weekend design.
Happy practice is a thing. And I would say those words and term it as such if they were indoctrinated as such. I like practicing especially because I’m 25 and believe I can make some really nice jazz music for my generation so I have to find new creative ways to practice
Please, help someone with the name of the standard.
Alone together?
AN HOUR? WHAT?
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beautiful stuff of Peter on the solo. So the secret is to solo only on the stage