The First Watch In Space?! Sturmanskie Gagarin
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Big shout out to Adam in Melbourne for YET ANOTHER cracker on loan. Definitely a bit of a niche piece this one, but it looks fantastic, and has a great story. Assuming that you believe the story, that is! Cheers, Jody
The first photo is actually Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman in space
Ha! Oops. I guess they look similar in the orange jump suits.
😂
Eew?
Space is a Hoax.
Oi! Love My JOMW
Damn ,your right [googled her],.She's more of a man than I'll ever be ...
Blimey, she's a dead ringer for Buzz Aldrin!
This strange script under Sturmanskie logo says: "1MCHZ Im. Kirova" that means "1st Moscow Kirov's Watch Factory". This factory produced watches of the brands like Poljot, Pobeda, Moskva, Sputnik, Kirovskie, Rodina, Ocean, Seconda etc. It was really big factory indeed. Built from scratch for Soviet Union by Dueber-Hampden Co. in 1930. And about "real or not". The production of this watches ("Shturmanskie" maens "Navigator's") was ONLY for the air force. They did not go on open sale, the watches were issued to military pilots ONLY when they entered the regiment as part of uniform. It is logical that Gagarin was a pilot and received this watch along with everyone else. So, it is not any kind of "legend". Yuri Gagarin's watch, which he wore during the space flight, can be seen in the museum of the Cosmonaut Training Center near Moscow. Exactly the same. Shturmanskie. And the size is quite large for era, like all pilot's watches then. I think somewhere around 36 mm, don't know exact size.
I was also curious about his comment that questioned the type of watch he had while on the mission, did some research myself and found that there is no question about the type or model he wore. Interesting how he's trying to stir the pot and trying to undermine the beautiful story of the watch. I guess he wasnt too happy about you debunking his myth, no hearts for you. To be honest I don't expect anything more for an average anglo-pig peasant.
it says 1st moscow CHASOVNIK zavod. chasovnik means watch. why make stuff up to post if you dont know then look like a proper plum.
i collect 1мчз watches from the basic prole models to the very best chronograph and alarm models. most of them can be easily serviced and calibrated to +- 5 seconds and many parts are interchangable.
great video!
nice review, thanks!
The caseback has a certain Gagarin-trapped-in-carbonite look.
I took my Maktime-era Shturmanskie panda chronograph to an ex-Soviet watchmaker in Tel Aviv to replace a smashed glass. He exclaimed over it, and ran to a friend's shop to get the right bombé glass. It clearly made his day. It's currently sitting in a watchmaker's shop in London waiting for a part.
Great to see some Soviet quasi-historical pieces examined after years of CZcams creators focusing on Chinese quasi-historical chronographs!
STAR WARS NERD SPOTTED!!!
Very good job comrade Jody. No gulag for you today
Good video comrade.
I actually own the original. Absolutely amazing little watch. I got it soaked by accident in a spring in the mountains, was not very happy about it, but took it like a champ. I renovated the whole thing over again.
Surely its got radium in it?
@@zoiders plutonium. Its russian. Jk. :) any potential lume is long gone.
@@zoltanszoke2676 do you know what happens to radium lume when it degrades?
Yes
Looks like the smaller 0 is used in the 6, 9 and bottom of the 8, Nice,
I like it, it reminds me of Farer design language.
Hey Jody.
The 'logo' in between the pinion and the branding is the symbol of the 1st Moscow Watch Factory, where all our favourite vintage Soviet timepieces were made!
Almost all. Slava is also a great brand from the Second Moscow Watch Factory (the names, very creative 😅)
With that old retro look , the mineral crystal will look even better especially when it's worn out and has a lot of micro scratches
sh-tour-mun-skee-yeah! with accent on TOUR! :)
First watch in the in space is pobieda K-35 on board vostok 4 pinned to the leg of a dog named черное семя.
Hey Jody, When it comes to watches with a story, this quote sums it up for me: “The Truth is nice but a Rumor is Priceless.” This is from the 2015 movie Mortdecai. It is true in the art world and true with watches.
My late father in law met him briefly in the 60s. He bought him a drink.
In Soviet Russia, the watch endorses you, comrade!! Love that bright orange second hand!
Artdeco 2s are nice
Dat intro music 👍🏽🦸
This watch is supposedly the second one in space.
The first one apparently belonged to the soviet aerospace engineer, Dr. Abraham Genim and was a Pobeda.
He sent it up with the space dog Chernushka aka Blackie.
He originally hoped that he would never see it again but both Blackie and the watch returned home safely and he got in trouble for his unauthorized stunt.
Yes, I heard that story too.
Yeah! I was going to write that too. You were first. It is a true story. Pabieda was the first wrist watch in space. Pabieda in Russian means victory. I am not a fan of Russians but I have to admit that they were fisrt in space.
Edit: After recent events in Ukraine I don't know what to do with my Russian part of my watch collection especially with Vostoks. Vostoks have Russian Army's insignias. Genocide in Ukraine is terrible. Looking at Vostoks make me think about Nazi insignia. I just don' t know what to do. 21st century and we are living back in 1940's WWII genocide reality with Cold War of 1970's with it's The Day After threat at the same time.
Cool story, but putting any unauthorised things like personal wristwatch in a space module was forbidden by rules of those space launches series. It's just a commercial legend by Raketa Watch Factory, which now also produces Pobeda watches
True. And I have a similar Pobeda in my collection (white dial, gold hands, cal. 2602 and 33mm case).
@Patryk, zhanasho pabeda! For the win!
Imagine being the first person to be launched into space...in a Lada.
Lada Niva is still the best car for all surfaces.
Lada on snow is unbeatable !
@@Nome_e_Cognome also forest and mud. Where all fancy cars fail Lada Niva rises to the top.
I’m not that fussed for the watch but I’d like one of those blue scuba dude t-shirts, got a link for that?
I was JUST on Meranom a few days ago looking at these watches, wondering if anyone's covered them before because I've never heard of them before on youtube, and here you come, reviewing it already! It's like you read my mind!
Thank you so, so much for covering the Sturmanski. The Soviet contribution to horology is an area of horologg that is not covered frequently enough. I would love to see you cover the Poljot 3133 chronograph if ever you have the opportunity. Signed, a big fan of this channel.
i will get the black face version with display caseback
According to multiple sources this was the actual first watch in space - the very first watch in space!
Pobeda 34-K.
Strapped to the leg of Chernushka dog by Soviet aerospace medical researcher Dr. Abraham Genin, it made it to space and back on Sputnik-4 spacecraft on March 9th, 1961!
Найс 😉
2:46, not Podeba, it's Pobeda (Victory), just a minor correction.
Now we need somebody to make a watch called the Hearthammer. Yup, that’s a Runrig reference from an American. Thought we wouldn’t notice…but we did…
The 1МЧЗ logo is from the 1st Moscow Watch Factory named after Sergei Kirov
I've heard somewhere, that Steve McQueen liked the watch.
Ahahha! Nice one.
Just ordered a Vostock two weeks ago, and I like the looks of this also, I may wait before purchasing as things are looking a little warm in Russia at the minute.
It's a beauty !
Привет от земляков Юрия Гагарина со Смоленщины!
Привет!
It's more accurate than modern Seiko movements......😄😄😄
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Or maybe the first man who made it into space and actually returned alive?
Anyway, I want one!
Your best video yet
Loved that NATO quip. Eerily timely.
I do like the looks of this unit, but I'm allergic to mineral crystal.
I like the watch but would use it on a Nato... ;)
The Russian/Communist font on the Arabics is so good. It males me want to watch Firefox with Clint Eastwood again
Got news for you Jodi. First watches in space was Pobeda. In same year 61 but before Gagarin. Those watches was in space on the wrist of a dog called Schernushka. U can easily check it from the book "Animals in space" by Colin Burgess n Chris Dubbs.
Pobeda watches made by brand and factory known today as Raketa which is 300 years old and still to this date produces russian manufactured watches.
5:19 Crown reflection. I was going to say that it is nice to see you wear the same T-shirt throughout the review. But then at 6:24, the T-shirt looks different.
I think I swapped from blue to grey/black as I could see my reflection. Norvin, that deserves some kind of reward!
@@JustOneMoreWatch I have a weirdness for noticing stuff like that. Maybe I am Monk?
Finally !! This whatch is sssoooo good in my opinion, so underrated !!
Finally! My favourite watch! I got a beige dial version and I love it! Such a lovely "connector" for guys who love watches and space. I was too late to discover 33mm version but well... I still love 40mm version.
Correction. The watch worn by Yuri Gagarin was one or the other:
Sturmanskie Type I - 15 jewel, Pobeda movement , not waterproof, not shock proof, mushroom crown sword hands. hand wind.
or Sturmanskie Type II - 17 jewel Sportivnie (41M or 43M ) movement, water proof, shock proof with incabloc, washer crown, lanzenform, scimitar hands, hand wind.
todays Sturmanskie Gagarin likely is New Old Stock Poljot 2609, 17 jewel , mushroom crown.
Last entity that made the movement was 1st Moscow Watch Factory 1MWF .
It is unknown if Sturmanskie makes these movements themselves or not , or if Poljot exist in some form or another. Assume NOS.
My wife’s mother was at medical school in Tchakalov when Gagarin was training as a pilot. He asked my mother-in-law for a dance, but she refused him. Her best friend really liked him and she eventually married him. The next time my mother-in-law saw him, it was on the telly being driven through Red Square! I said to my wife, what a big mistake her mum made!
The dial probably reads “First!”
OMG OMG OMG! Jodi is reviewing my watch!
I have the version with the green lume, that one is the opposite of this one, it's bright and shines quite a long time.
James Bondski 😎
Under sturmanskie says:
1MChZ Kirova.
First Moscow Watch Factory, Kirova
It's a very cool looking watch with a great back story, which I'd definitely wear but the price makes me go "ouch!" Great video, thanks.
Can you review the Pagani Design pd1659?
Great vidskie!
Thankski Comrade!
Jody curious if you have been able to review an Amfibia (with the F)?
I decided to add the 33mm version of this watch to my collection. I'm very pleased with it. It wears larger than anticipated. It averages - 10s per day. I believe the characters above the pinion represent the 1st Moscow Watch Company.
My son has this one jody, it is stunning!
A cracker Bob!
Unlike my dive watch obsession he has good taste!
Not a spec monster but it’s a great looking watch. I’d wear it.
Manual wound simple Vostok movements are also usually quite easily regulated and surprisingly accurate, even the ancient ones :D I have a vintage 119 case amphibian that is the barrel-tonneau case shape but with 18mm lugs unlike the 22mm modern 090 one, and with a thickness of 10mm with the domed acrylic included. The beautiful deep sunburst green lacquer now has spider web cracks on it, and those cracks have a golden hue to them, it is like a golden lightning storm on a sunburst green sky, absolutely amazing. Gains around 10s/day which for a 50year old movement isn't bad i think. Had a service a couple years back, the guy told me it was the first time it has ever been serviced :D . The watch cost me around 70usd, the service cost me like under 30 with a new acrylic and postage included :D
Moscow watch Factory N1 named after Kirov.
Better watch that "komrade" stuff. I hear that Australia is next after Ukraine, although maybe you're just ahead of the curve!
Interesting watch from Mother Russia 🇷🇺😁
Great video! I love my Штурманские. It’s my everyday watch. I believe it to be from the 60’s or 70’s but I’m not positive. It has a black face in this style but with the addition of a seconds hand below the red star at the bottom and no hacking motion. Simple brass frame and it’s definitely the smaller model. The lume on the hands and numbers still work pretty well if you give them some time to charge. They hold light a lot longer than this one. It keeps time well, but gets about 5 minutes fast when it gets time to wind it. All in all, i love this watch.
3:10 Wait! Vostok?
Great video. Interesting watch indeed. The boys at Scottish Watches would like this one 🏴
Hey Jody, did you show he case back ?
Gagarin Heritage Automatic is my first wristwatch ever. I got it as a gift. The case back is gorgeous with Yuri's face on it.
Na Zdorovie 😄🍻! Fab review and journey behind the Stainless Steel Curtain 🤟
Surprisingly beautiful watch! The numerals' font reminds me of my Art Deco Vario Empire.
Pagani are going to have to pull their socks up to reclaim their worst lume crown
Into Soviet watches - but not at that price. But it is interesting
Excellent review!
Would be interesting to see you review a Vostok 58 series dress (I suppose) watch sometime too, and as a previous commenter said, a Raketa. Both interesting takes on less tool-y watches!
0:36 That is not Yuri Gagarin. That is Valentina Tereshkova, the first woman in space.
If that watch was priced like a Komandirskie or even an Amphibia I'd be ordering one instead of typing this. But at $375 I just can't see it. I also like their Sputnik GMT for a more reasonable $160.
Awesome! Always struggled to pin down what the exact mode of the actual sturmanskie as there seems to be some confusion. Omega X-33 is my bet for best space watch !
Anyone think of Jeff Goldblum’s scene in “The Right Stuff” where he argues with Dan Castelleneta about whether Gagarin or Titov will be first? Which watch is it. The one on the left/right.
While not the favorite watch in my collection this watch has grown on me after purchasing it on impulse when I was buying an Amphibia last year (sold through the same store). It's light, easy to read and always gets comments which can get some interesting conversations going.
Do you know how to tell between fakes and genuines?
Let’s see the Mats watch. Good show. 👍🏴
best version of the Just One More Watch animation yet XD
Their Arktika Heritage model looks quite good as well.
Fortis have a Mars Watch I think it may be called Mars 500.
I really love this watch! I got 33mm version, 60th of bronzo and original of 1969.
Nice to see a Russian watch. I own several vintage Soviet watches because they are relatively cheap to collect and so evocative. Nice to see that some brands are still going strong. Raketa is also one I think.
I have a Sputnik. The subdial is a little satellite that rotates around in a circle.
i just got the Vostok Amphibian SE 710AN1 which is another gagarin (poor man's) tribute watch... if you want to review it let me know i'll ship it over to you!
I wouldn’t mind betting that the 1960’s watch would have had an acrylic crystal.... and there is also some debate as to whether he was the first into space, there’s rumours that he was actually the first man to go to space and get back alive....
I have exactly the same but with Auto movement, and they are gorgeous! Plus for me as Russian origin that watches the gift from my mother and mean a lot to me.
Unfortunately receiving them from Russia was a bit drama, as Russian post successfully lost the parcel and find it only 10 months later after countless complains. The parcel delivered by Australia Post was re-packed, and soaking wet, and it seems it was soaking for the whole 10 months as everything inside the parcel turned to the sticky goo including watch box, and watch strap. The watch themself survived though despite being only 30m water resistant. I still had to unscrew them and dry out, as they quickly started accumulating fog while being heated by my wrist, however after careful clean, and putting them on nato strap they are running fine. Not +4s/day as yours but alright.
Speaking about if Gagarin was actually wore Shturmanskie or not, the chances are, because Gagarin was a pilot at first place, and Shturmanskie was specifically created for soviet military pilots, and was hugely popular among them despite being a bit pricey.
I hate to be a killjoy! A Pobeda 34-K was first watch in space, preceding Gagarin's flight by a month. The watch was attached to a dog called Chernushka [Blackie] who enjoyed the flight
in Sputnik 9 on the 9 March 1961.
Yes exactly right!
Pabedo means win in Russian. 🧐
@@dangermouse8466 victory to be precise.
Came here to say this :D
Graduates of the prestigious Orenberg Flight School were presented with Pobeda (means victory) Sturmanskie watches when they joined the Soviet Air Force.
Yuri Alexeevitch Gagarin was presented with his watch on graduation in 1957. He wore the watch when he became the USSR’s first cosmonaut in space 12 April 1961.
Gagarin’s Rodina was sold at Sotheby’s New York, Space Exploration Auction (N06516) 1993, Lot 17, $25,875 - and was described as having been worn during the flight of Vostock 1.
This seems to be the cause of the confusion.
But, the letter of attribution (in Russian) - states;
‘Wrist watch “Rodina”, which was given to Yuri A. Gagarin as a gift from the Commander of the Airforces, Marshal Vershinin AFTER the glorious flight of spaceship Vostok -1
The Rodina, an automatic, was considered a better watch than the Sturmanskie. According to family members, Yuri Gagarin wore the watch most of the time, though not, obviously, into space.
When he crashed his MiG Gagarin was probably wearing a Strela / Poljot military issue chronograph but that is speculation on my part based on Alexei Leonov - who was originally scheduled to test the MiG - can be seen wearing a Strela in photographs taken in the 1960s. The Strela, issued to top Soviet military, is a much better watch than the Rodina.
1МЧЗ им. Кирова is what's written under ШТУРМАНСКИЙ
Первый московский часовой завод имени Кирова translates as Kirov Moscow Watch Company no.1
I just purchased 5 Vostok. According to my alternate reality Gagarin would have proud. Great Review J.
My biggest question is: what's Gustavo Kuerten doing in Russia, in the '60's? (picture @1:42)
Very nice .Ps Have you seen the Vostok Amphibia Lunar Dude ?It celebrates Vostoks in space and replaces the diver with a cosmonaut .The came out late 2020 been trying to track one down for a while .They are gorgeous btw with great lume .
And the first watch in the vaccume of space, on a EVA, Also Russian.
The Strela 3133 Chronograph, a soviet version of the venus 150 movement.
That's more rare, than the millions of the Omgas.
Did you show the case back ?
Sure did Bob.
"Oh Jody... Damn you!" says the wife, as I made her watch this video, because it's another watch you've introduced to me and it's gone near the top of my wish list
I love this watch. So much history behind it. I have 2 Pobeda from the 50s and even with 33mm cases (exactly the same case of the original sturmanskie) they look gorgeous.
Do you watch Stranger Things? I think last season with the Russians, I spotted a Sturmanskie on the wrist of one of the scientists.. not sure if it was this one.. I think it was another, but I could tell it was one by it's distinctive logo on the dial.
What’s with watch prices these days? Everywhere I search, no matter how cheap a watch is meant to be, prices are through the roof!
Also, where’s a good store rj buy Russia in watches here in Australia?
I have the original one with the radium numerals and hacking movement, found on eBay for 30 Euros, truly a piece of history!