Haha yea thanks man. I don’t have any deceleration pops anymore though. DSG w stock manifolds did. And Mystichrome w ARH manifolds and H pipe did also. But not this one lol 🤷🏼♂️. It idles down very smooth and quiet. And my other cars on the dyno seemed smokier at times. Like black smoke and grey when stepping on it. But this car doesn’t smoke at all. Doesn’t even smoke a little on cold start ups. It’s a very very good motor. The heads were never recalled on this one either. So factory sealed. Even when I changed the oil the other day, the oil was light yellow (like brand new still) . But I put new Amsoil in it. It’s always ram that. And for all those deniers out there saying impossible for stock clutch to hold this power. And the car prob isn’t making that much. The proof is right here lol It’s not like I’d lie about stuff. It’s just a crazy car man 😁. I’ll be the very first one to take out this transmission!
@@Wretched2JZ imo I think its better to not have deccel pops. I'm glad your engine is running healthy! It sounds real good and it seems to be properly built. It's very impressive that your on the stock clutch 😳 I wouldn't be too concerned about it since you don't drive the car too hard. So do you have both a pump 93 and E85 tune?
@@loscar5oh thanks man! Well I still have the SCT thing so it may be on there still. I may un marry it and sell it. Wow your the first person I’ve heard that says they don’t care for backfire pops haha Yea your car sounds great man!
@@TheMGChannel nope lol same stuff I run now. Pump gas w a little additive. Car feels just as fast as it was on E85 too. Crazy. Efficient blower, it’s quiet than other gen3s too.
Did you switch spark plugs and gap too? The heat range would be different and potentially holding back power just heads up. I never see anyone mention it
@@xx87gt306xx you can hook with a drag radial pretty good. My 07 gt500 is like 750 wheel 700 torque same blower and I'm running 410. I can't quite hold 2nd with 295/55 et street ss so I'm gonna go 325/50 et street r, upgrade the suspension and possibly go taller on the gears and it should hook awesome then. The quicker you spin it the better torque is down low which can be good or bad depending who you ask lol. It's always good just hard to hold on the street forget not running a drag radial preferably with a tall sidewall.
Awesome numbers! I bought a 2.65 setup for my 03 mg as well and your video really made me look forward even more to finishing it! What timing was it running?
Nice!!! 700whp @18lbs on a Mustang dyno is damn good! 2.65 TVS doing work! Considerably more power than my 2.3 TVS Cobra made at the same boost on 93. (597whp dynojet)
Do you have headers as well? 597 seems low for a 2.3 tvs car with headers and full exhaust at 18. I'm sure there are other differences from your builds because just the 2650 over the 2300 isn't gonna be 100+ wheel difference I'm almost certain if it. There isn't that much difference at these power levels on anything else I've seen em compared on (5.0 coyotes and 5.4/5.8 gt500s). The blue car has headers and full exhaust it might have a mono too every little thing adds up. The overall setup and combo is important to know. Pretty sure there shouldn't be more than 100 wheel hp delta between 2300 and 2650 at this power level without other things being more overall efficient on the 2650 car.
@@midnight347 Car was a Gen 2 2.3 TVS, GT500 TB, 18psi, 93octane. O/R X pipe and Magnaflow mufflers. No longtubes. The extra efficiency and E85 is whats making the power i assume.
@@svtdan643 yea the headers make a good difference too. He's running 18 w headers which would be like 19 or so without because it'll drop a lbs and gain power. I could see there being 100 hp if the 2650 has headers and the 2300 car don't he may have a monoblade too. When you say gt500 throttle body are you talking about a dual bore or a mono? If he has a mono and you didn't that also makes a good bit of difference. That would make sense if it was 2300 w twin blade and no headers against 2650 with headers and mono I could absolutely see 100 hp then for sure. The gen3r is a bad mamjamma.
@@svtdan643 there was 100 hp between the gen3r and gen3 on lunds car (both 2650s) but that was a max effort 11.2:1 5.8 spun to the moon and back high rpm, huge intake and mono tbody etc. Vmp said there is only 20-30 hp difference between them in the 700 rwhp range so I'm thinking 50-60 or so over a 2.3 maybe more. You also had a gen 2 not the r the r does actually make little more power than the gen 2. The higher you spin them and the more max effort setups are gonna see alot more additional power like lunds car did.
Wow, you made 700whp on a low reading mustang dyno on 93 pump gas and low(ish) boost?! That's pretty impressive. You're easily in the high 800's on E85. Are you on a stock lower pulley? And at around the 10 minute mark, you mention there possibly being 2 different kinds of GT500 maf sensors - do you mean the maf sensor that comes with the VMP 5" intake? Cause VMP does offer 2 different kinds. One for less than 800whp and the other over 800whp.
Thanks man! Yea if I pulley down and come back he said I’ll make even more! And the car will feel even better. Yea ARH LTH , 3” catless X pipe into stingers!
Thanks. Well it’s on coil overs all around to get the height where ya want it. Fenders are rolled, rear wheel specs are pretty wide plus I run a 3/4” spacer with extended ARP studs. 315 tires and that’s it!
Check your pedal cause one flaw always had with there sn95, new edge, and foxbody platforms was there was always so much slouch with the throttle cable its possible the cable is sticking or the throttle body blade is, i am not a professional nor certified mechanic i a mearly giving an educated guess so do not take my word for it
I think it's cool couple you terminator CZcams guys have some good real world data out there now that shows what a gen3r can do on a terminator. For a while you didn't see much info on them with that blower vs say the 5.0s and later gt500s and people were claiming they didn't perform all that great on the terminators and that's why you didn't see alot of 2650 tvs setups on terminators but I'm glad you and some of the other guys have put that bs to bed (likely started by twin screw fanboys lol). The gen3r 2650 tvs will put in work on any 4v engine or any engine period in particular the 4v ford's weather it's 4.6, 5.0, 5.2, 5.4, 5.8 etc. Nothing surprising to me I knew it could put in work on terminators I just wanted to see actual legit data so maybe more guys go with them on terminators it really is a badass blower perfect for street cars but can still get down at the track or roll racing. I'm a huge tvs guy. I have a gen3r on my 07 gt500. Mines still running stock headers, twin 69 twin blade tbody, and I'm on 93/boostane (100 octane) at 20 psi I'm prob over 750 to the tire I did 724 with a twin 65 that was well past the point of being a restriction on a 95 degree day I've since switched for the twin 69 there is still power left on the table but it prob picked up 30 hp from the twin 65 (vmp twin 69 flows way more than cj twin 65) car feels noticeably stronger now and it steps out on the 2-3 alot of times even on 15 inch fatboy drag radials (didn't do that before i swapped the tbody it feels noticeably stronger). Going to have some headers put on her and retuned this year and see where it's at. Prob see 775 pretty easily imo. She's nasty for sure. With a mono and headers I could prob see 800 without even changing up the fuel. E85 would get more too but it isn't common around here it's only available couple places so there is some stuff I'd need to do first in order to be able to do e realistically even tho it isn't my daily I drive it when I can on nice days. So for now boostane it is. I think your video shows that the gen3r does put in fact put in work on terminators as well even though I already knew this others need to see it spread the word tvs ftw lol.
Yea I agree man! I wanted to make this video so bad because of that reason alone! Even VMP hasn’t put any videos out on it! 🤷🏼♂️ Good thing is the tuner said drop that pulley down some more and come back! Lol Didn’t know I could make those kind of numbers on pump gas! But a few more lbs of boost would help and be right where I want it to be!
@@Wretched2JZ yea you can get good power out of pump gas because they're so insanely efficient. I just can't say enough good things about the gen3r it is a badass blower. When vmp did the test against the 2.8 kb (I know I know it's an old design blah blah lol) on back to back to back pulls on the dyno it was within 5 hp the kb dropped like 60 hp (it was within 20 peak with the same pulley on the same car but it was way down on back to back pulls). That just shows how badass the gen3r is and how efficient it is.
Just a stock motor with hood bolt ons. I say it’s between how well the motor was built from the factory and the new style VMP blower and supporting mods.
@@Wretched2JZ newer than expected but still. Damn. Probably time for some new ones. Just for personal safety. Love the car, hate to see something bad happen.
@@Wretched2JZ it's just fan boy talk! I shouldnt say to much until I have owned one of these cars anyway. So mystichrome Is always a pleasure to see on the channel
Wow thats awesome and sounds soo killer brother! I literally just ordered my Gen3R kit
Lovely car and colour. The sound is awesome. 👍🇬🇧
Very solid numbers bro 👌🏻 man...that car sounds and just looks so awesome! I'm so glad my car sounds just like that 😁
So do you have both a 93 and e85 tune?
Haha yea thanks man. I don’t have any deceleration pops anymore though.
DSG w stock manifolds did.
And Mystichrome w ARH manifolds and H pipe did also.
But not this one lol 🤷🏼♂️. It idles down very smooth and quiet.
And my other cars on the dyno seemed smokier at times. Like black smoke and grey when stepping on it.
But this car doesn’t smoke at all. Doesn’t even smoke a little on cold start ups. It’s a very very good motor. The heads were never recalled on this one either. So factory sealed. Even when I changed the oil the other day, the oil was light yellow (like brand new still) . But I put new Amsoil in it. It’s always ram that.
And for all those deniers out there saying impossible for stock clutch to hold this power. And the car prob isn’t making that much. The proof is right here lol
It’s not like I’d lie about stuff. It’s just a crazy car man 😁. I’ll be the very first one to take out this transmission!
@@Wretched2JZ imo I think its better to not have deccel pops.
I'm glad your engine is running healthy! It sounds real good and it seems to be properly built. It's very impressive that your on the stock clutch 😳 I wouldn't be too concerned about it since you don't drive the car too hard.
So do you have both a pump 93 and E85 tune?
@@loscar5oh thanks man! Well I still have the SCT thing so it may be on there still.
I may un marry it and sell it.
Wow your the first person I’ve heard that says they don’t care for backfire pops haha
Yea your car sounds great man!
@@loscar5oh yea like I tell everyone. It’s a crazy stock clutch 😂
Well balance car between looks , and power great job .
Turbo Mike is a great tuner overall, him and James do great work.
I agree!
Amazing numbers bro, I bet the car pulls like a beast 👀💪🏻
Thanks my friend! Glad you watched! It’s fast lol, but I’m dropping the pulley 2 sizes and going back.
@@Wretched2JZ Nice, on E85?
@@TheMGChannel nope lol same stuff I run now. Pump gas w a little additive.
Car feels just as fast as it was on E85 too. Crazy. Efficient blower, it’s quiet than other gen3s too.
Did you switch spark plugs and gap too? The heat range would be different and potentially holding back power just heads up. I never see anyone mention it
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I'm at 730/650 with my VMP Gen3R on E85 & 20psi(stock lower and 3" upper). Looking good!
Conservative tune? Seems low for a 3R and E85. Stock manifolds?
@@jalexs5283 mid lengths. Timing was around 19 degrees and temp was in the 90's(FL).
Thanks! Yea thinking of doing 2.9 or 3.0 upper next. Prob the 2.9.
@@Wretched2JZ Honestly I know you don't have traction as is currently. it'll be even worse going smaller up top. Plan on taking it to the track?
@@xx87gt306xx you can hook with a drag radial pretty good. My 07 gt500 is like 750 wheel 700 torque same blower and I'm running 410. I can't quite hold 2nd with 295/55 et street ss so I'm gonna go 325/50 et street r, upgrade the suspension and possibly go taller on the gears and it should hook awesome then. The quicker you spin it the better torque is down low which can be good or bad depending who you ask lol. It's always good just hard to hold on the street forget not running a drag radial preferably with a tall sidewall.
Awesome numbers! I bought a 2.65 setup for my 03 mg as well and your video really made me look forward even more to finishing it! What timing was it running?
Nice man , good choice to run! Mines kinda quiet but man it’s efficient!
What is it exactly? Where did you get it from?
@@Jesussavesyouandme talking about the supercharger!
Nice!!! 700whp @18lbs on a Mustang dyno is damn good! 2.65 TVS doing work!
Considerably more power than my 2.3 TVS Cobra made at the same boost on 93. (597whp dynojet)
Thanks! Yea I was happy with it!
Do you have headers as well? 597 seems low for a 2.3 tvs car with headers and full exhaust at 18. I'm sure there are other differences from your builds because just the 2650 over the 2300 isn't gonna be 100+ wheel difference I'm almost certain if it. There isn't that much difference at these power levels on anything else I've seen em compared on (5.0 coyotes and 5.4/5.8 gt500s). The blue car has headers and full exhaust it might have a mono too every little thing adds up. The overall setup and combo is important to know. Pretty sure there shouldn't be more than 100 wheel hp delta between 2300 and 2650 at this power level without other things being more overall efficient on the 2650 car.
@@midnight347 Car was a Gen 2 2.3 TVS, GT500 TB, 18psi, 93octane. O/R X pipe and Magnaflow mufflers. No longtubes. The extra efficiency and E85 is whats making the power i assume.
@@svtdan643 yea the headers make a good difference too. He's running 18 w headers which would be like 19 or so without because it'll drop a lbs and gain power. I could see there being 100 hp if the 2650 has headers and the 2300 car don't he may have a monoblade too. When you say gt500 throttle body are you talking about a dual bore or a mono? If he has a mono and you didn't that also makes a good bit of difference. That would make sense if it was 2300 w twin blade and no headers against 2650 with headers and mono I could absolutely see 100 hp then for sure. The gen3r is a bad mamjamma.
@@svtdan643 there was 100 hp between the gen3r and gen3 on lunds car (both 2650s) but that was a max effort 11.2:1 5.8 spun to the moon and back high rpm, huge intake and mono tbody etc. Vmp said there is only 20-30 hp difference between them in the 700 rwhp range so I'm thinking 50-60 or so over a 2.3 maybe more. You also had a gen 2 not the r the r does actually make little more power than the gen 2. The higher you spin them and the more max effort setups are gonna see alot more additional power like lunds car did.
Wow, you made 700whp on a low reading mustang dyno on 93 pump gas and low(ish) boost?! That's pretty impressive. You're easily in the high 800's on E85. Are you on a stock lower pulley?
And at around the 10 minute mark, you mention there possibly being 2 different kinds of GT500 maf sensors - do you mean the maf sensor that comes with the VMP 5" intake? Cause VMP does offer 2 different kinds. One for less than 800whp and the other over 800whp.
Yea I was talking about the mafs. That would make sense then, didn’t know they offered 2!
Was this on e85 or 93? What was the pulley size?
Is this car also a ARH LTH and x pipe setup? As well as stingers?
Also very impressive to see 700 on pump with an unopened motor👌🏻
Thanks man! Yea if I pulley down and come back he said I’ll make even more! And the car will feel even better.
Yea ARH LTH , 3” catless X pipe into stingers!
love our '03 focus svt but a cobra wouldn't be bad.
I know you probably get asked this a million times but how did you get your figment so good? Like your suspension n tire specs?? Also good power man
Thanks. Well it’s on coil overs all around to get the height where ya want it. Fenders are rolled, rear wheel specs are pretty wide plus I run a 3/4” spacer with extended ARP studs. 315 tires and that’s it!
Sounds so Damnn goood better than se* 😅
Check your pedal cause one flaw always had with there sn95, new edge, and foxbody platforms was there was always so much slouch with the throttle cable its possible the cable is sticking or the throttle body blade is, i am not a professional nor certified mechanic i a mearly giving an educated guess so do not take my word for it
Thanks, it’s not that tho. It’s the vacuum inside the blower holding it closed. I adjusted the throttle body open a little.
I think it's cool couple you terminator CZcams guys have some good real world data out there now that shows what a gen3r can do on a terminator. For a while you didn't see much info on them with that blower vs say the 5.0s and later gt500s and people were claiming they didn't perform all that great on the terminators and that's why you didn't see alot of 2650 tvs setups on terminators but I'm glad you and some of the other guys have put that bs to bed (likely started by twin screw fanboys lol). The gen3r 2650 tvs will put in work on any 4v engine or any engine period in particular the 4v ford's weather it's 4.6, 5.0, 5.2, 5.4, 5.8 etc. Nothing surprising to me I knew it could put in work on terminators I just wanted to see actual legit data so maybe more guys go with them on terminators it really is a badass blower perfect for street cars but can still get down at the track or roll racing. I'm a huge tvs guy. I have a gen3r on my 07 gt500. Mines still running stock headers, twin 69 twin blade tbody, and I'm on 93/boostane (100 octane) at 20 psi I'm prob over 750 to the tire I did 724 with a twin 65 that was well past the point of being a restriction on a 95 degree day I've since switched for the twin 69 there is still power left on the table but it prob picked up 30 hp from the twin 65 (vmp twin 69 flows way more than cj twin 65) car feels noticeably stronger now and it steps out on the 2-3 alot of times even on 15 inch fatboy drag radials (didn't do that before i swapped the tbody it feels noticeably stronger). Going to have some headers put on her and retuned this year and see where it's at. Prob see 775 pretty easily imo. She's nasty for sure. With a mono and headers I could prob see 800 without even changing up the fuel. E85 would get more too but it isn't common around here it's only available couple places so there is some stuff I'd need to do first in order to be able to do e realistically even tho it isn't my daily I drive it when I can on nice days. So for now boostane it is.
I think your video shows that the gen3r does put in fact put in work on terminators as well even though I already knew this others need to see it spread the word tvs ftw lol.
Yea I agree man! I wanted to make this video so bad because of that reason alone!
Even VMP hasn’t put any videos out on it! 🤷🏼♂️
Good thing is the tuner said drop that pulley down some more and come back! Lol
Didn’t know I could make those kind of numbers on pump gas!
But a few more lbs of boost would help and be right where I want it to be!
@@Wretched2JZ yea you can get good power out of pump gas because they're so insanely efficient. I just can't say enough good things about the gen3r it is a badass blower. When vmp did the test against the 2.8 kb (I know I know it's an old design blah blah lol) on back to back to back pulls on the dyno it was within 5 hp the kb dropped like 60 hp (it was within 20 peak with the same pulley on the same car but it was way down on back to back pulls). That just shows how badass the gen3r is and how efficient it is.
What wheels and specs are those? Looks so good.
Thanks!! They are custom CCW classics 18x9 and 18x11.5
I just got a terminator what has been done to your car to get so much horsepower I’m at 460
Just a stock motor with hood bolt ons.
I say it’s between how well the motor was built from the factory and the new style VMP blower and supporting mods.
I was hoping you’d hit 700.
Yea it was a pretty easy number to hit!
Do you still have this?
No I ended up selling the car.
I have to know the date codes on those front tires
They were either 2011 or 2013 I forget.
@@Wretched2JZ newer than expected but still. Damn. Probably time for some new ones. Just for personal safety. Love the car, hate to see something bad happen.
@@typedrew cars on brand new wheels and tires right now.
He has a weird way of running the car on the Dyno
Great number tho
He was tuning out a stutter issue.
@@Wretched2JZ oh my bad
@@Json.- don’t be sorry, it’s just a question!
@@Wretched2JZ love your car wah I could buy it
Swap you for my 03 DSG basically stock with 43k miles
Thanks for the offer but this car is expensive, lower miles etc.
DSG is a beautiful color tho! I used to have one!😊
VMP is trash, glad you swapped that for a legit piece !
I wouldn’t say VMP is trash. That blower made really good power on pump gas! Yea I swapped the whole car! 😬🙈
@@Wretched2JZ it's just fan boy talk! I shouldnt say to much until I have owned one of these cars anyway. So mystichrome Is always a pleasure to see on the channel
@@Wretched2JZ I just realized I'm thinking of a different channel with a Mystic car . But I'm still subscribed to you regardless!
You sound like someone I’ve heard before but I can’t quite place it.
I’ve gotten that before 😆