Was U.S. Journalist Charles Horman Killed by Chile's Coup Regime With Aid of His Own Government? 1/2
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- www.democracynow.org - As we continue our look at the 40th anniversary of the U.S.-backed military coup in Chile and the ongoing efforts by the loved ones of its victims to seek justice, we turn to the case of Charles Horman. A 31-year-old American journalist and filmmaker, Horman was in Chile during the coup and wrote about U.S. involvement in overthrowing the democratically elected president, Salvador Allende. Shortly after, he was abducted by Chilean soldiers and later killed. Horman's story was told in the 1982 Oscar-nominated film, "Missing," which follows his father, Edmund Horman, going to Chile to search for his son. We're joined by Charles Horman's widow, Joyce Horman, who filed a criminal suit against Pinochet for his role in her husband's death, and established the Charles Horman Truth Project to support ongoing investigations into human rights violations during Pinochet's regime. We're also joined by Peter Weiss, vice president of the board of the Center for Constitutional Rights, who represented the Horman family in their case against Kissinger and others for Charles Horman's death.
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It is February 7th 2023 and I just watched "Missing". Such an incredible movie and story. Never knew about this story of Mr. Horman until now, and I'm compelled. RIP
Where did you watch it?...I have been trying to butit seems they are trying to bury it at least in the US
An emblematic movie by Costas Gavras!
My Neighbord was released that September from the Stadium. His wife went to plead the door of a Police General. they happen to aid when the policeman was a little boy. That action meant his survival. What a save.
Missing is a brilliant film. Jack Lemmon and Sissy Spacek’s performances were equally brilliant. Interestingly enough the film is never or at least very seldom on tv, or satellite.
Conspiracy!!!!
The blu ray for that movie on Amazon has to be shipped from Italy. The DVD is widely available
I tried to see if I can rent it digitally and can't find it anywhere. Not on any streaming service I have either.
If you love commie asshats sure
I’m 49 years old now. When I was In the 9th grade my Spanish teacher showed us Missing in class. I can’t imagine that being done now.
This is heartbreaking. “I just want my boy back.”
No matter the age, how adults they are they Will always be our children.
The truly sad and horrifying part about Ed and Joyce Horman's ordeal is the likelihood that the U.S. ambassador and embassy staff had led them on this two-week snipe hunt for Charles, while also knowing that he was already dead.
Typical government lies.
It's just nothing but lie after lie after lie... and the lies go on.
JFK and the magic bullet, Vietnam(the bay of Tonkin incident), WMD in Iraq (a big lie), no US involvement in Chile (another lie)... The list goes on.
💔
The US government and CIA are pure evil.
Yup. The documented everything. Absolutely everything. How each person was killed etc. It's nuts.
Horman traveled to Chile because he wanted to experience the process of a socialist president democratically elected and to write about it, he traveled outside Santiago he ran into CIA agents who gave them the ok to travel back to Santiago, the country was under curfew he probably spoke about what he was doing there and they killed him, the movie is more as a document all the info is there. Nixon and Kissinger set the entire process, they had agents in Panama way before the actual election, this was part of the Cold War as we all know it, the assassin head of the military tortured killed, and made sure some of these people would be permanently missing. 17 years of a dictatorship and 3 more before he allowed Chile to go back into democracy, please search for lots of info that was actually posted and spoken by our government, including Joyce Horman was interviewed in some of them, The Chilean people had no idea about the CIA involvement during the dictatorship, therefore, today they continue to believe all the propaganda that was prepared by the CIA they believe that the elected president was responsible for everything that went wrong, they literally addressed the dictator as a president, excellent job by the CIA. The movie is under Missing Charles Horman, there is a new Missing movie with nothing to do with the history of Charles.
I saw the movie , back in 1983. Not a big grossing one in Brazil. The movie Theater was nearly empty. It gave me chills.
I held to my seat through the very end. Thank you Sissy Spacek, Jack Lemmon, John Shea, Joe Regabutto, Mayron , Costa Gravas.
Yes brilliant film which will be remembered for a long time to come
Soy chilena y nunca he podido verla completa. Sólo aparecen fragmentos de esa película. Fue prohibida en Chile
Brasil had its own similar crises, also Made in USA in 1964, c/o
President Lyndon Johnson-- the ultimate right- liberal / Cold War
liberal !
@@samaval9920 Yup. I am aware of such.
He had a mildly progressive stance on US Domestic affairs, some not so great. The Great Society. Which he stole from JFK.
HUD was a disaster. So much so Nixon revised it, and hence the birth of Section 8 Vouchers and only allocated building resources to specific projects ( mostly towards elderly public housing ). HUD Housing Projects were built before LBJ came into office, all he really did was to increase budgeting for such building projects and create the agency.
As for Foreign Policy, it was pretty much black & white, follow the US x Commies rethoric. And he knew better not to mess with the folks at Langley,VA.
If you watch the Movie Nixon, from Oliver Stone, you pretty much get the general idea of who is in charge.
LBJ's Bills, politicking, and body of work were always with popular domestic policies, he never messed with International Affairs. It was beyond his pay grade.
Things haven't changed much. Every new President in Office gets the laundry list from various Departments, and pretty much follows the script. Some get more of the budget pie, others less. You mess with their priorities and Congress/Senate, you can't run the country.
I saw the movie what a great movie and what a sad reality
very very sad Movie about my Land in Chile in the year of 1973.. makes me sad...
Arrest in London
See also: R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate, ex parte Pinochet
In 1998, Pinochet, who at the time continued to wield considerable influence in Chile, travelled to the United Kingdom for medical treatment; allegations have been made that he was also there to negotiate arms contracts.[4] While in London, he was arrested on 17 October 1998 under an international arrest warrant issued by judge Baltasar Garzón of Spain,[5] and placed under house arrest: initially in the clinic where he had just undergone back surgery, and later in a rented house. The charges included 94 counts of torture of Spanish citizens, the 1975 assassination of Spanish diplomat Carmelo Soria, and one count of conspiracy to commit torture - allegations of abuses had been made numerous times before his arrest, including since the beginning of his rule, but had never been acted upon. Grappling with the conditions set by Chile's turbulent transition to democracy, the coalition government known as Concertación and headed by President Eduardo Frei Ruiz-Tagle opposed his arrest, extradition to Spain, and trial.
A hard-fought 16-month-long legal battle ensued in the House of Lords, then the highest court of the United Kingdom.[6] Pinochet claimed immunity from prosecution as a former head of state under the State Immunity Act 1978. This was rejected by a majority of the Law Lords (3-2), who ruled that some international crimes, such as torture, did not grant a former head-of-state immunity.[7] However, the judgement was set aside in a subsequent, unprecedented case on the basis that one of the judges involved was potentially biased due to his ties to Amnesty International, a human rights organization that had campaigned against Pinochet for decades and acted as an intervenor in the case. A third ruling in March 1999 confirmed the original verdict; this time, the Lords held that Pinochet could only be prosecuted for crimes committed after 1988, the year in which the United Kingdom implemented legislation ratifying the United Nations Convention Against Torture in the Criminal Justice Act 1988.[7][8] This invalidated most, but not all, of the charges against Pinochet and gave the green light for his extradition to Spain to proceed.
In April 1999, former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and former US President George H. W. Bush called upon the British government to release Pinochet.[9][10] They argued that Pinochet should be allowed to return to his homeland rather than be extradited to Spain. On the other hand, United Nations High Commissioner of Human Rights, Mary Robinson, hailed the Lords' ruling, declaring that it was a clear endorsement that torture is an international crime subject to universal jurisdiction.[8] Furthermore, Amnesty International and the Medical Foundation for the Care of Victims of Torture demanded his extradition to Spain.[11] In protest against Spain's action, Chile withdrew its ambassador from Madrid for a time.[12] Thatcher sent Pinochet a bottle of single malt whisky during this time, with a note saying "Scotch is one British institution that will never let you down".[13]
Meanwhile, questions began to emerge in the media about Pinochet's allegedly fragile health. After medical tests were conducted, Home Secretary Jack Straw ruled in January 2000 that the former dictator should not be extradited to Spain. This triggered protests from human rights NGOs, and led the Belgian government, along with six human rights groups (including Amnesty International), to file a complaint against Straw's decision before the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in January 2000.[14] Belgium, as well as France and Switzerland, had deposed extradition requests in the wake of Spain's demand.[14] Despite protests by legal and medical experts from several countries, Straw finally ruled, in March 2000, that Pinochet had to be set free and authorized his return to Chile.[15] On 3 March 2000, Pinochet returned to Chile. His first act upon landing in Santiago de Chile's airport was to triumphantly stand up from his wheelchair to the acclaim of his supporters.[16][17] The first person to greet him was his successor as head of the Chilean Armed Forces, General Ricardo Izurieta.[17] President Ricardo Lagos, who had just been sworn into office on 11 March, said the retired general's televised arrival had damaged Chile's international reputation, while thousands held demonstratations against the ex-dictator.[18]
Despite his release on grounds of ill health, the unprecedented detention of Pinochet in a foreign country for crimes against humanity committed in his own country, without a warrant or request for extradition from his own country, marked a watershed in international law. Some scholars[19][20] consider it one of the most important events in legal history since the Nuremberg Trials of Nazi war criminals. Judge Garzón's case was largely founded on the principle of universal jurisdiction - that certain crimes are so egregious that they constitute crimes against humanity and can therefore be prosecuted in any court in the world. The British House of Lords ruled that Pinochet had no right to immunity from prosecution as a former head of state, and could be put on trial.[21] In Spain, the Court of Appeal of the Audiencia Nacional affirmed Spanish jurisdiction over Argentine and Chilean cases, declaring that domestic amnesty laws (in the case of Chile, the 1978 amnesty law passed by Pinochet's regime) could not bind the Spanish courts.[7] Both for matters concerning the "Dirty War" in Argentina and for Chile, they characterized the crimes as genocides.[7] However, both the Spanish and British rulings relied not on international law, but on domestic legislation: "They talked about universal jurisdiction, but grounded their decision in domestic statutory law."[7]
Philip Robins read the entire post. Interesting so, every now and then someone bothers to bring out a thoroughly written, parsed , and quotable post. The fact you organized your post so well that one could bother to read ( layout , chronological sequence , well structured , relevancy, and Impeccably) , deserves some kudos.
charles horman was not in the ploy of the communist and was living in chilie free from anyone. read the book on the subject.
Extremely powerful and brilliant movie that all North Americans should watch to open their eyes to what their government has done in Latin America.
I feel very much for the Horman family, the men , ambassador , staff involved, people who contributed towards Charles s death were cowards who hid behind lies. In the end the karma will catch up or has caught up with them. Rest in peace Charles
No such thing as karma
@@JV-tg2ne 😀👍🇮🇳, It’s a bitch and does always catch up with you .
@@JV-tg2ne i believe there is karma , even if its repeating something, it will come back on you
What a brilliant film Missing is.
Steve Morse
It's my favorite comedy!
Yes it is.
@@IvorMektin1701 - That is NOT funny, you pathetic numbnut!
@@IvorMektin1701 A very low IQ for u!
@@xanbex8324
"Get to the Choppa!"
-Dutch
I saw the film in 1983 in Australia, ví ésta película en 1983 en Austtalia. Muy impactante, very confronting.
Yes.
hmm>?
Copper mines owned by Americans were being nationalized by Allende at a huge loss to US " interests " and the irresponsibility of the Chileans who voted Allende in werent responsible enough to not have the US not get involved. as per Henry Kissinger
oldtimedrumcorps insightful
Communism is evil af and they had to eradicate it in order to survive or turn into Cuba
they had the choice thats democracy
@@JV-tg2ne not as evil as what Pinochet brought
@@JV-tg2ne Allende was democratically elected socialist and it was nothing like Cuba. Pinochet right wing military junta was no way better. For F sake, read more history.
Gracias Democraia Ahora.
@Bruno56 - YOUR comment is pathetic, stupid, paranoid, and so typical of right-wing nutjobs who have been around since McCarthy and his time!
Si alguien puede compartir por favor el enlace para poder ver Missing en español. En Chile fue prohibida por la sangrienta dictadura de pinochet
Don't go snooping around in a third world country during a civil war and you can avoid Mr. Hormens fate!!
He was killed for what he saw, but truth can never be entirely hidden. They wanted the same faith for Assange. Whole world is now aware of US role in LATAM coups, back then and now. And not only there, the world is irreparably changing and much more will be revealed, so stay tuned.
And it appears he was choosing a side. Had he been neutral I doubt there would have been an issue. I don’t condone it just being real. Best to stay out of there period
yes...exactly...God forbid people should hear the truth🙄
wrong place, at a wrong time ,he was an american, what he was doing in a south american country, in those dangerous days?
He lived there fine for years before the coup. You can't justify this.
He was writing communist propaganda attempting to get Americans to sympathize with commies and communism
@@stevienightheat1 - he and her were and are commie pos meddling in a foreign land, duh?
@@JV-tg2ne the commie was legally and legitimately elected by his people. The US and the coup was wrong period.
@@stevienightheat1 oh yes the years before the coup the allende goverment was definitively communist, so, after the coup, things changed, look i live in argentina, and in 1976 was the same here, some people died, because tthey were involved, in subversion, terrorism, I dont know if charles was a member of similar gangs in chile, as a journalist, for the communist propaganda, but the fact is that the usa inteligency guys discovered him as a communist that could put the goverment in troubles, and these guys not play with toys
Leftard conspiracy.
Nazi Neanderthal jerkoff!!!
Glory to Pinochet Chile Hero
And Hitler and Trump too.
@@Richard_K1630 - FYI dingleberry hitler was a National SOCIALIST, as in the twin sibling of the communists both evil to the core
fuck off he was a murderer
@@Richard_K1630 i don t think so , they both have lost credibility
@@JV-tg2ne he was a fascist.
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