Good job, these engines are pretty simplistic, and they work great and last forever if you look after the. But am I the only one that noticed the piston is the wrong way around? IN should face towards the intake manifold not exhaust?
@@rustyworkshop I was about to comment the same thing, so the piston was marked wrongly? I'm replacing the shift forks & 1st gear in a 167FML currently (very similar but gear driven oil pump and no balance shaft) and didn't notice if the piston was stamped correctly, will have to check if it's correct on this one.
This video is going to help me alot, thank you so much. Can you tell me did you torque the bolts by the head and rockers? Is there any timing I need to consider because I'm just replacing my piston rings
@@rustyworkshop just stripped my motor and piston is destroyed, going to buy new one tomorrow. How to I set the timing(if there is) do I just align the pushrods correctly?
Have you tried one of the big bore kits and a performance cam with stiffer cams for these engines? I have the 197cc version in a TaoTao ATV my nephew wrecked. As a hobby, I build Vintage Board tracker replicas, ride them a while then sell them. I usually use used Honda clone industrial engines I can get my hands on cheap, for example harbor freight predator 212's up to the 670 v-twins, mated to a stall converter set up like used on go carts. I have wanted to build myself a shifter with a clutch and put some 325-350 wide front tires and 400-500 rear 26"-28" Coker, Dunlop, or Firestone motorcycle tires to register for highway use and keep. Seeing as I have the 197cc 4 speed with reverse, I thought maybe I'd try and get as much power as possible. I already did the 30mm re-jetted carb with a 12v low pressure in line fuel pump, and port matched the intake and ported and polished the exhaust port for extra performance. The carb has a velocity stack, and it has a custom welded exhaust header..
have you ever have a intake valve that when setting valve lash will always be tight and will give you 0 air valve lash and i believe that its due to a receding valve and by replacing it the valve will fix the problem
Hi and really nice video! I'm thinking on getting an atv with that 200cc engine for roughly 250bucks, and this content is great for studing it since its impossible to fins any documents! Looks like the flywheel pulled out very nicely, did you do any magic or is it easy to do with no specialized extractor?
Yup all from China - Aliexpress, only performance parts I could find is stronger valve springs and an 250cc cylinder and piston, heavy duty clutch springs as well.
No limpiarse el filtro centrífuga de aceite hasta ahí todo bien y Si le echas desgarrador quedan las tapas como nuevas le quería todo lo negro pegado también debiste cambiar los discos de clunch y la bomba de aceite
i have a lifan 200cc 163fml push pod and im not sure if you speak english but i totally ruined the cable connection to my clutch actuator and i can't find the correct one can anone help, i was hoping ididnt have to take it apart but i guess i have to so i can find out which arm will work.
@@rustyworkshop I just changed it with a Honda one. Punched it out crimped the new one in and finally found a cable that fits great for my kart. I have a hand shift lever with a motorcycle clutch mounted vertically.
Bonjour j’ai un moteur 150 Loncin qui pétarade et fait des retour de flamme je pence au soupape je voulais savoir le jeux au soupape admi/échappement sa serait cool
@@rustyworkshopthe "IN" marked on the piston is an indication to line up with the intake, also the grooves give it away too: big groove for intake valve and small groove for exhaust
доброго дня . хочу запитати що то за пробка 1:57 і що має бути під нею? там має бути сітка чи магніт. типу фільтра. чи на таких двигунах нічого щоб відігравало роль фільтру не має
Поршень установлен не верно, последний диск сцепления - не верно. Мотор отмыл слабо, нагар на клапанах не убрал (или не показал). Картер нужно продувать (видно мелкую грязь). ну и зачем было на герметик собирать? В Украине на него есть наборы прокладок.
Очень интересно, но нихуя не понятно..... Без слов и объяснений. Вырезано много нюансов из процесса разборки и сборки. Я могу так видео снять как я на СТО работаю, и нихера не объяснять зачем я снимаю ту или иную деталь, в чём суть проблемы и что надо сделать что б устранить эту неисправность. Что новое ставлю, что старое можно оставить. Почему клапана не регулировал если снял уже и разобрал всё? Больше вопросов чем ответов. И самое главное. Вопрос. Сколько стоит перебрать такой мотор с учётом установки новых запчастей(сцепление, сальники, шестерни если надо вдруг, поршень, кольца и т.д. и т.п.) и ещё стоимость работы мастера? Снятие и установка это отдельная сумма. Не проще купить новый мотор и сразу заменить?
@@rustyworkshop Тогда одобряю ))) Разница в 400 баксов это ощутимо. Вот только узнать в каком городе можно это сделать. Даже есть вариант, если это не Киев, то можно отправить Новой Почтой.
One thing's been bothering me which is why these cheap china knock off engines are so underpowered compared to their counterparts. Why is that? Some engines have as much as 15 hp difference
@@rustyworkshop yeah initially I thought so too but it can't boil down to just the quality of parts, can it? A little extra friction here and there may cause some loss of power but not enough to make such a difference. I'm thinking it has more to do with bore width and stroke length and even bore/stroke ratio.
Others use crankcase splitter but in your work you split case like butter!amazing dear.
Good job, these engines are pretty simplistic, and they work great and last forever if you look after the. But am I the only one that noticed the piston is the wrong way around? IN should face towards the intake manifold not exhaust?
correctly noticed, but the Chinese piston otherwise would not work
@@rustyworkshop I was about to comment the same thing, so the piston was marked wrongly? I'm replacing the shift forks & 1st gear in a 167FML currently (very similar but gear driven oil pump and no balance shaft) and didn't notice if the piston was stamped correctly, will have to check if it's correct on this one.
Наконец то сделал подобие мастерской. Картинка стала более приятной
Жостко
Good Work! When you pulled the head off, do you remember if both head bolts on the clutch side had washers?
Thank you
thank you, it was a long time ago I do not remember)
@@rustyworkshop No worries! Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Is this engine durable?
This video is going to help me alot, thank you so much. Can you tell me did you torque the bolts by the head and rockers? Is there any timing I need to consider because I'm just replacing my piston rings
adjust the valve
@@rustyworkshop just stripped my motor and piston is destroyed, going to buy new one tomorrow. How to I set the timing(if there is) do I just align the pushrods correctly?
How long is the push rod
Have you tried one of the big bore kits and a performance cam with stiffer cams for these engines? I have the 197cc version in a TaoTao ATV my nephew wrecked.
As a hobby, I build Vintage Board tracker replicas, ride them a while then sell them. I usually use used Honda clone industrial engines I can get my hands on cheap, for example harbor freight predator 212's up to the 670 v-twins, mated to a stall converter set up like used on go carts.
I have wanted to build myself a shifter with a clutch and put some 325-350 wide front tires and 400-500 rear 26"-28" Coker, Dunlop, or Firestone motorcycle tires to register for highway use and keep.
Seeing as I have the 197cc 4 speed with reverse, I thought maybe I'd try and get as much power as possible. I already did the 30mm re-jetted carb with a 12v low pressure in line fuel pump, and port matched the intake and ported and polished the exhaust port for extra performance. The carb has a velocity stack, and it has a custom welded exhaust header..
it's very cool that you do that
have you ever have a intake valve that when setting valve lash will always be tight and will give you 0 air valve lash and i believe that its due to a receding valve and by replacing it the valve will fix the problem
AP GY3 yeah 👍 keep your good work
Thenks
Hi and really nice video! I'm thinking on getting an atv with that 200cc engine for roughly 250bucks, and this content is great for studing it since its impossible to fins any documents! Looks like the flywheel pulled out very nicely, did you do any magic or is it easy to do with no specialized extractor?
these engines are easy to disassemble as a children's constructor
You make it seem effortless. My engine looks very similar to yours and this gave me some confidence until the machine elves took my comprehension
It is a very uncomplicated engine. Straight forward, just line up all the dots and you should be good. The water cooled version is also pretty easy.
Hello, very good job, a small question, is there a manual to download in pdf? And how is the electronic circuit connected?
thanks) I searched but did not find
the push rods must be labeled intake or exhaust so when assembling again they will not be interchanged dear.
exactly
Also where did you find all the replacement parts and everything? Also are there performance parts?
all from China, AliExpress
Yup all from China - Aliexpress, only performance parts I could find is stronger valve springs and an 250cc cylinder and piston, heavy duty clutch springs as well.
Very good 👍
Thenks
No limpiarse el filtro centrífuga de aceite hasta ahí todo bien y Si le echas desgarrador quedan las tapas como nuevas le quería todo lo negro pegado también debiste cambiar los discos de clunch y la bomba de aceite
Gracias por los consejos
Compañero, ¿de cuantos dientes es el piñon que va debajo del centrifugo?, el que mueve la corona de clutch.
¿Es de 23T?
Чесно незнаю таких деталей
Je to podobne ako bashan200cc?
Thanks 😊
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i have a lifan 200cc 163fml push pod and im not sure if you speak english but i totally ruined the cable connection to my clutch actuator and i can't find the correct one can anone help, i was hoping ididnt have to take it apart but i guess i have to so i can find out which arm will work.
Clutch cable?
Yes clutch cable my lifan is 5 speed is manual obviously and the clutch actuator where the cable connects is all messed up.
So it is removed from the lid and changed
@@rustyworkshop I just changed it with a Honda one. Punched it out crimped the new one in and finally found a cable that fits great for my kart. I have a hand shift lever with a motorcycle clutch mounted vertically.
@@Gokraut Everything is decided, I'm glad for you
Oíl lubrication armed. Silicon no.
IN in the piston means intake , it goes in the side of intake you put it wrong mate
Bonjour j’ai un moteur 150 Loncin qui pétarade et fait des retour de flamme je pence au soupape je voulais savoir le jeux au soupape admi/échappement sa serait cool
Buenas,en Dominicana donde encuentro respuestas de motor Loncin 200 CR5 año 2015,motor LC163FMLNQ19798?
Ya no me acuerdo
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Does this engine have an oilfilter?😀
Yes
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you put the piston in the wrong direction!
good job though
how did you get that the piston is in the wrong direction?
@@rustyworkshopthe "IN" marked on the piston is an indication to line up with the intake, also the grooves give it away too: big groove for intake valve and small groove for exhaust
доброго дня . хочу запитати що то за пробка 1:57 і що має бути під нею? там має бути сітка чи магніт. типу фільтра. чи на таких двигунах нічого щоб відігравало роль фільтру не має
є різні версії я так розумію від року випуску в основному там сітрчка але були і без неї
@@rustyworkshop дякую. можливо буду міняти масло гляну що там
What bike is this engine from?
Loncin 200
Good
Thenks
Hello lien of segments and cylinders please 😁??
What?
@@rustyworkshop you give me the link for the purchase of piston and cylinder rings please
mw gn yon loncin lèl gen vitès ladanl lumière palumen
Did that piston go in back to front?
no
Поршень установлен не верно, последний диск сцепления - не верно. Мотор отмыл слабо, нагар на клапанах не убрал (или не показал). Картер нужно продувать (видно мелкую грязь). ну и зачем было на герметик собирать? В Украине на него есть наборы прокладок.
Дякую
Pistón al revés no limpió el filtro centrífugo y no se debe usar silicón! Mal!
¿Por qué no?
Очень интересно, но нихуя не понятно..... Без слов и объяснений. Вырезано много нюансов из процесса разборки и сборки. Я могу так видео снять как я на СТО работаю, и нихера не объяснять зачем я снимаю ту или иную деталь, в чём суть проблемы и что надо сделать что б устранить эту неисправность. Что новое ставлю, что старое можно оставить. Почему клапана не регулировал если снял уже и разобрал всё? Больше вопросов чем ответов.
И самое главное. Вопрос. Сколько стоит перебрать такой мотор с учётом установки новых запчастей(сцепление, сальники, шестерни если надо вдруг, поршень, кольца и т.д. и т.п.) и ещё стоимость работы мастера? Снятие и установка это отдельная сумма. Не проще купить новый мотор и сразу заменить?
новый стоит 500 $ ремонт старого в районе 100 $ канешно смысл есть ремонтировать старый
@@rustyworkshop Так это сумма общая с работой и запчастями?
Да
@@rustyworkshop Тогда одобряю ))) Разница в 400 баксов это ощутимо. Вот только узнать в каком городе можно это сделать. Даже есть вариант, если это не Киев, то можно отправить Новой Почтой.
That piston is turned wrong
There's an arrow on release
Thisis loncin 200?
yes
@@rustyworkshop is it the ssme process for loncin 250cc ? Gy6 ?
@@rsobral560 no
One thing's been bothering me which is why these cheap china knock off engines are so underpowered compared to their counterparts. Why is that? Some engines have as much as 15 hp difference
very weak and unreliable engines, have low power because they are made of low-quality materials
@@rustyworkshop yeah initially I thought so too but it can't boil down to just the quality of parts, can it? A little extra friction here and there may cause some loss of power but not enough to make such a difference. I'm thinking it has more to do with bore width and stroke length and even bore/stroke ratio.
@@orhan3007 That's the case, and still deliberately make the power of the small for fuel economy
Jojojo..pusiste el psiton al revés..nada de chino ..ni que chino..esta al revés..
Hahaha... wrong install piston...flip the intake pocket
there is an arrow for release, look closely
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What engine is this from?
Lonkin 200
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