The MOST EVIL Loyal Space Marines Chapter
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Out of all loyalist Space Marine Chapters, the Marines Malevolent are the biggest douchebags by a decent margin. Not even the Minotaurs are as reprehensible as these guys.
00:00 - Intro
02:21 - (Possible) Origins
04:30 - Culture
06:51 - War Records
11:45 - Primaris (?!)
13:18 - Conclusion
music: Noosphere - Mechanicus OST
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My headcanon will forever be that the marines malevolent are a ultramarine successor chapter that got disowned because of their specialization in traitor legion tactics.
Night lord terrorism, death guard chemical warfare, iron warriors practmatic siege methods and etc.
There is a case for that. The Ultramarine Legion did value testing new theories and practices but also could be pretty elitist.
"To beat your enemy, you have to know how they think", and shit... if the tactics work for chaos, they could work for anyone else, I see no reason to not follow through? How prone is this chapter to warp taint, according to lore?
Theoretical: "lol"
Practical: "lmao"
In what fucking universe are the Marines Malevolent worse than the Night Lords? That is... Certainly one of the takes ever.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
**reads title** it's the Marines Malevolent, isn't it?
**watches video** yep, that's what I thought.
Exceeds? Nah. They may disregard collateral damage, but they aren't fucking skinning humans alive and wearing their skin
…..yet.
They go out of their way to kill allies because they believe that those that don't fight also don't deserve to live. The Night Lords are all monsters, but they aren't exactly known for being teamkillers (during the Great Crusade).
Maybe, but during the crusade, that horror led to planets surrendering before a single shot was fired. The Night Lords basically had the lowest kill count during the crusade because everyone was too afraid to fight and risk them being unleashed on them. their methods were brutal, savage and horrific, but Konrad had a saying. "Kill a thousand men and they will hate you. Kill a million men and they will queue to face you. but kill a single man and they will see monsters and devils in every shadow. Kill a dozen men and they will scream and wail in the night, and they shall feel not hatred, but fear" They purposely killed only as much as they needed to during the Crusade because of this. they didn't want resistance. they didn't want people to rally against them. they wanted fear. The Marines Malevolent don't care. They are happy to just rack up a body count, and even kill their allies. I'd say the malevolent are worse
@@raeishimura They are necessary in the end though imo. They are basically the poster boys of "this is the worst we got", but they also do their jobs, right? There are effective ways to utilise warmongering psychopaths, and at the end of the day, if chaos takes hold, you need an unrestrained measure to take care of it. Idk much about them, but I can see why they are tolerated and allowed to exist, even if they may seem like deranged Iron Warriors.
Every colony needs a lazy ant, and in this case, every faction needs their nutjobs.
I mean, they've got no defects, but they seem like Blood Angels experiencing the Red Rage, the main difference is that they don't kill their own chapter's forces, just everything else?
Idk, I kinda like them for being brutal and realistic, and their methods, although cruel, seem justified. They also seem like a good choice to take on the Dark Eldar imo, and they'd really piss the Tau off, so it's a win win for mankind, provided you can get the meatshields out of their way before they start torching the place.
@@raeishimura Beautifully put.
you know it's bad when even the inquisition sees you as too extreme
tbh they see almost every marine as something extreme
I love this chapter, and I will make an army of them in the future. The Marines Malevolent are just the bullies of the galaxy
Almost as if they adopted that aspect from Perturabo.
4:32 that marine has 6 fingers, hes a mutant...... HERECY!!!!
Maybe he's the one Inego Mantoya is after.
@@olibirkett331 He's the one Inego Montoya was after but couldn't get.
SUFFER NOT THE MUTANT TO LIVE!
“Intense altercation with some sources suggesting use of physical violence on both parts”
Tu’Shan beat the Captain senseless with his bare (that’s no gauntlets) hands while the other wore his power armor, cautioning the Captain that “if he wanted to live, he would not reach for his weapon.”
Tu’Shan is so badass!
Been watching 40k lore vids for about a year now, and this is the first time I'm hearing of these guys. You have earned yourself a Sub.
I appreciate it, brother!
When it comes to the W/H 40K verse, too many forget it's purpose, it's point. The Lore is my chief attraction. As far as the Marines Malevolent is concerned, they're not 1 of my real favorite chapters but I do like them. In away they offer a distilled, basic , "Bottom line" example of combat/ Warfare.
Many thanx 👍👍
The Minotaurs called and are upset you didn't mention them.
Minotaurs are possible another secret loyalist Iron Warrior successor chapter. This time under the control of the High Lords of Terra. They are scum alright.
The machine spirits guided your channel to my feed! Love your work, binging everything today
Amazing quality, nice job. Can't wait for more, this is the best narration ever. Like book of choker but 40k
Having an idea of the chapters motivations would have been cool. I enjoyed the video though
To be fair, there really isn't much information on this chapter. That being said, I'll keep this in mind for the next video! I really appreciate the feedback.
Good luck with future videos 👍
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Thank you, brother!
I wouldn't call them evil, not even by a long stretch. Brutal, uncaring? Certainly. But not evil.
The marine at 4.50 has 12 fingers
Even Khorne would say chill bro
You know you are brutal if you even turn the inquisitions stomach lol.
I guessed Mortifactors.
Okay your're voice is amazig!
ALGORITHM
Word bearers next??🤞
Yes!
it looks like they are not being supplied with any kit let alone new kit so have to pick it up when ever they can
Worked well for the Huns!
Brother chapters… brother chapters homie lol.
The inquisition is in no position to judge the Marines Malevolent.
They sure do. If the Lamensters get punished for siding with the wrong side. The Marine Malevolent can get shafted by the Inquisition for killing and destroying essential Inquisition assets. In truth, the majority of the Inquisition couldn't care less about civilian lives. What pisses them off if some disrespectful Astartes Chapter is rampaging through a world, without proper communication and disregarding collateral damage. Destroying several spy networks, infrastructure, raiding weapon caches, killing cells and agents. Ruining decade long secret operations the Inquisition has set up there.
You know the chapter is that evil when even the Inquisition goes "Dude, seriously, chill out. This is going too far." Calling them "loyal" really does stretch that term to its furthest extent.
The Marines Malevolent really are that bad. They got everything they deserved when events like Tu'shan's beatdown of the Marines Malevolent's chapter master. They really are Perturabo's gene sons.
There's absolute no way in hell these petty douchebags AREN'T sons of Perturabo.
This will forever be my headcanon.
They are loyal to the Emperor. They are not required to die for humanity.
One out of 10K+ men are capable of becoming Marine recruits. One out of 20+ recruits will become aspirants. One in five aspirants will live to become full Marines.
Yet they should die for capable men/women that are unwilling to fight for themselves? The Marines Malevolent did not abandon fighting men. They disregarded those *not* defending their planet.
As far as honor goes ...
It was a Black Templar that stabbed a Malevolent in the back. This happened *after* the Malevolent risked his life to fight with the Templar against an Ork Warlord. The Templar was mad that the Malevolent won an honor duel against the Templar's Sergeant.
@@lazlopwent7960exactly! In the grimdark of 40k, if you aren't a part of the solution in keeping humanity alive and flourishing then you are the problem. Making a short lived normal human is easy making a hyper effective space marine isn't.
@@lazlopwent7960 As much as I can understand that, they could just leave non combaeants alone.....or let them become meatshields.
Most the the citizens of the imperium work slavishly for it, bar some spoilt nobles, its not some arms factory workers fault they were not trained as a guardsman. They are still a resource that should not be thrown away on a whim.
If this chapter asked for help, i would ignore them and leave to their fate.
I think the Marines Malevolent are actually from the 2nd/11th, more specifically, from the Rainbow warriors. Them, alongside the deathstrike marines, have more or less the exact same emblem (thunder with a wing), and they are possibly also related to the sons of Malice.
By the few lore there is, they always universally hate their own origins (RW and DS hate the ultramarines or iron fists, the sons of Malice hate the imperium, all of them disregard human life/have been punished by the inquisition).
Something tells me the 11th was truly freaking insane and they all have a very brutally cynic and warrior-like way of thinking.
The Rainbow Warriors don't have canon lore... all of their lore is from the time when Flesh Tearers and Silver Skulls, much like the Rainbow Warriors were all First Founding...
Their current lore is mostly just "their chapter world is Prism" and "record deleted"
Livery color does not indicate gene heritage.
Lamenters fan vs MArine malevolent enjoyer
Why when i decided to make a army of Them did everyone make a video of Them!?
Still cool thank you
What about space sharks they are meant to be cast offs from night lords and raven guard
Tough love
Thrse guys would probably be good friends with the purge
More Evil than Nightlords... Alpha Legion Obviously!
Meh. No consideration for collateral damage? That's kiddie stuff compared to the 8th Legion. Still dig the Marines Malevolent though. Still soft loyalists though.
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Night Lords do it because that is an actual part of the strategy.
Marines Malevolent do it because they can.
Is their primarch possibly named Jocko?
Oh c'mon! Don't treat my boys like that! 😂
In a exclusively ironical way, they are my favourite Imperialist force because they are, in my opinion, what the Imperium really are: an oppressive ruleship that disregard human lives completely, seeing its citizens as slaves only that should obey and die - FOR THE EMPEROR!
If some paid attention to my interventions here and there in WH40K, it become quite clear that I abhor as much as I can The Imperium - with and, specially, without The Emperor. And It really makes me distraught when I see people that seriously justifies its atrocities committted by any excuses like "The Ruinous Powers are worst!", "The Ethereals that rule the T'au Empire do the same!", "Orkz are barbarian beasts", "Necron Lords also enslaves their subjects!", "Aeldari/Drukhari gave birth to Slaanesh due their debauchery!", "Tyranids are going to eat us all!" (I am very sorry for them...) All true! There are no good guys in WH40K right? (except Farsight Enclaves - yet) Does that excuse The Imperium? Hell no! There is no excuse, for instance, when the Inquisition makes on purpose a whole planet suffer a Genestealer infection just to study it and, then, employ the "Exterminatus solution" to clean up their own mess! Or when people are kidnapped to become Eversors and if they don't succeed or don't accept they are killed! Some people say that we should, seriously, root for The Imperium because they are humans like us. Well, that is EXACTLY why I oppose so firmly, as a mere WH40K enjoyer, against it! Or, to be more specific: I oppose The Imperium as a whole because its inhumanity is exactly what mankind should avoid, by any ETHICAL means necessary, to become!
But what about The Marine Malevolents in all that? Well, it is because they are so explicitly, err, MALEVOLENTS (duh!) that NO ONE makes any apology on behalf of them! And, paradoxically, that is the "beauty" in them: given that no one will justify any of their horrible (although efficient) deeds, no one will try to treat them seriously! As such, they are simply be approached - and used in pur tabletop game - as a sarcastic joke! You know what else used to be a sarcastic joke? WARHAMMER 40.000! They are like The Noise Marines: they are SO OVER THE TOP that people just deal with them to have fun! You know what else, at the end of the day, was supposed to be something to have fun mainly? WARHAMMER 40.000!
I don't know if I'm being succesful to convey what I am trying to say, but I try with other words: with all their hideousness, not only The Marine Malevolents are the true embodiment of the Imperium but, paradoxically, of what WH40K used to be: an over the top HOBBY ONLY where you can have a blast playing with absolute assholes (sorry)! Because that is JUST an innocent escapism and you, as a player, is mature enough to know that you will never become nor you don't want to become such an asshole, right? If you see them with such a view, you will realize that there is even a "pure integrity" in them: by no one justifying them, they are somehow more "ethical" than the likes of Black Templars or Grey Knights, for instance.
Oh, and the "worst chapter"? Minotaurs, Death Soectres, Red Scorpions and Iron Hands (which is one of the original legions, but you get my point) are WAY worst! Minotaurs serve ONLY The Higher Lords and they slaughtered, more than once, our beloved Lamenters; Death Spectres capture women to use them a "breeding machines" until they die (and people complain with the Iron Warrios and the Daemonculaba); Red Scorpions are so intolerant against anything that is "not human" that they persecute Ogryn; Iron Hands allow people to get raided by Drukhari to "cull the herd" and only get those with strenght that survive! Marine Malevolents "only" use people as shield to better defeat orkz. That is nothing! 😂
Truly, they are a blessing in disguise by our glorious God Emperor of Mankind! 😊
Great video, as usual!
I think people just like rooting for the human faction. I like the Imperium as a faction for a lot of reasons, but at their core they are indeed "evil". It's a different brand of evil compared to something like Chaos, since it is born mostly out of ignorance and necessity, but it is indeed evil nonetheless.
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Sorry but no.
Not good for the beauty of 40K.
Listen, if you have a better idea of how to get rid of an Obliterator infected Astartes than dropping him on Nocturne, I'd like to hear (and ignore) it.
Wdym! Night lords are really cute !
Hey mate what's the music? It's not Dead Can Dance?
It's on the description, bro.
It's Noosphere from the Mechanicus game OST.
Night lords weren't evil. They did exactly what the emperor asked them to do and didn't say anything even when being censored for doing it. The legion you send due to its reputation of fear is going to be pretty scary, considering all 8' tall superhuman legions are pretty scary. Only the salamanders had fewer civilian casualties before the heresy than the night lords
I thinks it’s the yellow armour…
L.O.D👹🔥
So, I have a fan character who is a night lord, but where other night lords seek to instill fear through typical means he seeks to instill fear through brutal efficiency. His approach consists of killing and leaving without a trace without torturing or leaving any messages in fact he makes a point of killing someone so quickly and efficiently they wouldn't realize their dead till they are. Naturally, he is renowned by his peers for his incredible speed and shunned for his abnormally kind disposition for a night lord. He often operates alone due to this leading him to travel to a planet removing targets often those in charge causing better rulers to take their place. Most of the time they don't even realize its the doing of a night lord let alone him specifically though he has been found out often when other space marines are involved, but never caught and only discovered when he wants to be. When he is confronted though he proves himself a super natural duelist a blur even to the likes of duelist like Cato Secarious. This is further improved by his inheritance of his primarch's gift of future sight letting him see the future. Strangely he also possesses a loose friendship with the likes of Fabious Bile and Arumen often engaging with them intellectually providing them a second opinion on matters. He would eventually get picked up by a rogue traitor who made note of his odd behavior, and decided to employ him. He would later find himself in the company of the black legion, and even the person guard of an inquisitor though he refused to remove his night lord iconography on principle much to the frustration of his peers.
They are ultramarines
I say they're an Alpha Legion psyop. Whose side are they really on? Who knows?
Nah they are just pragmatists 👍🏻
NGL with their dickishness, natural Rivalry with the Salamanders, and complete lack of fucks ro give about civilian casualties, yet still having an Honor role of the Imperium, I do believe these lads are Loyal sons of Konrad.
They lack the pallid skin and jet black eyes. I think you were mislead by the fact that Night Lords geneseed is amongst the most stable.
They lack the pallid skin and jet black eyes. I think you were mislead by the fact that Night Lords geneseed is amongst the most stable.
@@jeremyhess7977 I do not recall under any story where a MM even takes off their helmet for their skin to be shown, and their bloodline traits don't match any other legion.
They outmarched their supply lines to the point they have to salvage and collect wargear rather than be resupplied. (Which means they certainly aren't Iron Warriors or Death Guard, both of whom are notes for their focus on supply and resistance)
They don't care about civilian casualites and have no care even to protect their own casualites (to the point it's suspected they are not Codex Astartes complaint)
They have a noted and long standing rivalry with the Salamanders, which is also noted to be the biggest Rivalry the Night Lords had.
If you do have a source that talks about the skin color of a MM (even then genders expression is unique to each marine, and it is possible if it's a younger marine or a more resilient one that gene seed effects like that took far longer to manifest) please share with with me, and with at least the approximate chapter it is in if not the page itself
i mean.. Minotaurs are pretty much douchebags
"...sister astartes chapters..." 🤨
Mistakes were made.
HERE ME OUT I THINK MELVEMENT IS DARK ANGELS
Why was I UNSUBSCRIBED from this channel 🤔
Wait…PHEW
it was only a dream
The All Father Always Protects
CZcams is being sussy, as usual.
Evil? Malevolents aren't that different than the average chapter.
Evil no. But I wouldn't say that they are anything like the others most Chapters refuse to fight beside them, and some actively hunt them due to the extremely harsh nature of the malevolents compared to most other chapters.
@@SOLDIERRyuujin no one hunt them down, rather the Malevolents are one of the few chapters that actively hunt other chapters (ie. Black Dragons), and it is not even true that other chapters refuse to fight alongside them, there are atleast couple novels with them fighting alongside other chapters. They are callous, but are not different than many others, see Fire Hawks, Minotaurs, Dark Angels..the Malevolents are just more famous about this due the memes.
Sister chapters?
A poor choice of words. I meant brother chapters.
I caught that, these are the fruity marines.
@@MusMasi They are a very far cry from being fruity. You must have them confused with the Rainbow Warriors.
5:03 "Sisters Astartes Chapters?"
I obviously meant "brother", but I was severely sleep deprived while editing this video. So this mistake just kinda slipped through the cracks.
The marines malevolent are so isolated and distanced from the loyalists that their closest of kin are the sisters of battle by happens chance of the results of their results are.
Joking, but not by much.
I reckon the marines malevolent are decendants of modern-day America 😂
There is no "sister chapter" fool.
The Iron Warriors hard carried the crusade and then the civil war. Purterabo’ turn was only second to Magnus’s in terms of being justified.
If Perterabo had spoken up about how unhappy he was, and tried to remedy that, and not made a massacre on his home world, which included his own adopted sister, then maybe yes.
Magus turning was entirely his own fault for looking at a decision, and jumping on the one with the worst possible outcome.
@@andrewbyrne2173 Magnus did nothing wrong and Big E is a hypocrite who plays favorites.
@@mikewaterfield3599 whilst the emperor is a bit of a bastard, Magnus downfall was mostly his own doing.
Next video will probably be about the Thousand Sons and let me tell you I have some controversial opinions about them, to say to least. I wouldn't say they were justified at all. Nikaea was entirely on them and half the reason the Emperor is stuck on the throne is because of Magnus.
@@RedHierophant23 Hubris has it’s price. Nikea was about appeasing Mortarion, Russ, and Dorn. Big E designed Magnus to be a warp entity.
Time and again he coddled Lorgar. Horus practically got hourly affirmation. Was the Cyclops arrogant? To be sure. All the Primarchs were except maybe Vulkan. Nope, if it were me I’d have been planning fratricide before the “council” was even over. With the ultimate hypocrites Mortarion and Russ being targets one and alpha. Still, no one got treated like a door mat quite like Purturabo. Did he exterminate his home world? Sure! So what? The emo nuked the world deliverance orbited and big E cheered him on. Big E is like one of those atrocious parents who acts shocked when their kid turns into a violent sociopath. Does it justify the kids actions? Eeh no. It does explain why though. Besides, if I knew nothing else about the Iron lord, he finally put Fulgrim in his place and gave him the long over due @$s whooping he deserved. After all, he was the one holding the hammer!
'Sister Astartes Chapters'. mmhmm. With SGI/DEI/bowing to Blackrock that sort of stuff becomes very noticeable now- Brother Chapters is the proper reference, I won't dislike the Vid or block the Channel, but you did lose a like. Thank GW for that, I would never have nit-picked that without GW's bent knee.
You are a bloody embarrassment.
How to say you’ve never felt the touch of a woman without saying you’ve never felt the touch of a woman.
Here I am trying to enjoy a nice little lore video and here comes Sourpuss McGee over here.
Looks like you know already :)
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