Law Abiding Citizen (2009) Movie REACTION!!
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- A frustrated man decides to take justice into his own hands after a plea bargain sets one of his family's killers free. Here's Nikki & Steven's reaction to Law Abiding Citizen.
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Great reaction! Love the movie. Nikki he’s naked at the beginning bc it shows he is completely unarmed. All methodical to avoid being shot due to the especially heinous nature of his crimes 👍
Please watch Wild Things
Came out in 1998 I think
I thought the judges phone exploded
Have you guys seen Equalizer? Or The Collector? They're just as good! 😁👍🙏 And Death Sentence with Kevin Bacon is another one. ☺️
This movie is fantastic! I'd love to see Nikki's reaction to promising young woman. Another great revenge movie
This is the one movie where I wanted the 'bad guy' to win so bad
I look at it the other way, the Bad Guys did win in the end! Shameful ending
@@davidsmnje dunno if its BS or not but the rumor was the script had Clyde come out victorious but Foxx didn't like it so they changed it to what we got....which sucks if true.
I pretend he escaped through a tunnel. Hated the ending so it’s the only way I can accept it. The lawyer should have lost everything.
@@shockwave1126 watch the director’s cut.
The movie ended up been lame by not commiting to make Butler's character win, since they didn't achived to make Foxx's character more simpatetic, on the contrary they had to go all righteous at the end and made supposed 'good guy' win, when in fact the only one that won is the corrupt justice system that he is a part on.
The most succesfull and memorable films are those were they bad guy with the best argument proofs to the hero how wrong his moral standing is and manages to outsmart him/her at the end, this could have been one of those movies but they chose the lame ending.
I was NOT on Foxx's character's side while watching this!
He was the villain of the movie.
He embodied the system🤷♂️😡👍
You stop supporting butlers characters once he blows up the co workers, and the girl assistant.
@@Kyjohnson1500 I started to fall off after he sent Darby's video to the daughter.
I was!!! Without rules there is anarchy!!
I was in prison in the 90's. There was an old man from Finland in for life. He was a giant of a man and had fought for Finland against Stalin's invasion.
His granddaughter had been rap-d and since he was the oldest in the family he took it on himself to take revenge. He tortured the rap-st to death. He was a hero in the prison.
Everyone has had a mother, sister, daughter, girlfriend and everyone wish they had the same strength and courage as him if anything happened to them.
That's a Man, a real one!
Was he a lifer? Not sure how the prison system in Finland works, but I know that in some countries the 'life sentence' equivalent is like 20 years at best.
@@jmr1068204
This was in Sweden though the man was from Finland.
We got life here with review for parole after 10-15 years, then every 5 year, or something. Don't know the exact time for this.
One famous lifer here killed the son of a man in our parliament and he sat 34 years straight and got paroled at the age of 78 for medical reasons and died 2 years later at 80. If he hadn't gotten ill he would have died in prison.
So life can mean life here.
For the elderly, a life sentence doesn't seem as bad when you may not even have five or ten years left. Some are just the ones to go out making a difference before they go.
That Man was a Hero.
After all that careful planning, people actually believe that he left a bomb sitting in the middle of the floor in a case
And that somehow Jamie Foxx outsmarted him
That bomb ended up exactly where he wanted it to end up
He taught him a lesson and he was ready to join his family
If the bomb went off at city hall and Nick still refused to kill him, the next step for Clyde would have been Nick's family.
I thought I was the only person who got that part of the plan.
it only made sense to me, especially in the end when he sat calmly waiting for the end.
Getting naked lets the cops know without a shred of doubt he wasn't carrying a weapon. Ensuring they would arrest him, without possibly shooting him on the spot. Thus ruining the rest of his plan.
And the studio were probably looking for a reason to make him get his kit off for the trailers.
Wouldn’t have made a damn bit of
difference if he wasn’t white and moderately affluent.
there's no logic in their heads
pretty obvious actually lol
Mr Slave said "but what about that 10" master blaster he's still pointing at them? Jesuss Chrisst."
Fun fact: The only reason the main character loses in the end, is because Jaime Fox complained that his character lost. The director initially wanted the main anti hero to win.
This explains the plot hole of how the bomb was moved in time to the cell. If this had the dark ending of Butlers character winning, revealing the tunnel to cell only at the end with Butler using it, could have made the movie a classic.
It would have been more of a classic if they did not change that
WHAT !! Fox's arrogant assed character should have lost, as he didn't give a damn about what happened to that guys family. Fox's character was meant to lose, as there was no way he was that clever to work out how he did all the things he did.
This is one of the movies I wish we had gotten an alternate ending on DVD that was in Clyde's favor.
"I'm gonna pull the whole thing down. I'm gonna bring the whole fuckin diseased, corrupt temple down on your head.
It's going to be biblical."
Greatest movie quote ever.
That line I saw in a clip of best threats and lead Mr to one of my favorite movies
It's a shame it's only a Movie.
That would've been awesome. This movie deserved an alternate Clyde good ending, that way both teams of movie watchers who supported either character would get the ending that is needed while still respecting the intent of the director.
This is one movie where I was on the "wrong side " the entire movie. My kids are my life. I almost lost my husband in end of April. He was stabbed 3 cm from.his heart. He's okay but I lost my mind that night. Not knowing if he'd make it. If I lost my children to someone else taking their lives.....demons in hell would be scared of me. Not my babies.
'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.' It's a scary thing to see.
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII I had to compose myself about my husband . I'm still angry about it. It would never happen if it were my kids. Never.
Kristen have u ever seen peppermint with Jennifer Garner? This movie was kinda similar to that.
@@mchllwoods no I haven't ill have to check it out thank you!
@@kirsten9277 no prob and I'm so sorry bout your husband by the way.
"That's what wrenches are for, DUMBASS"
Top tier movie line
"And you are supposed to be a starship engineer, man"
one of my favorite movie lines ever, quote it as often as i can
Come on Chief O'Brien!
😂
Underrated movie for sure, really made question morality vs ethics
Underrated? It was huge when it came out
Using underrated.. Has become underrated. Like do people not pay attention? Watch a Janet Jackson/Morrissette/Pink performance.. People be like "underrated"
@@VDViktor $127.9 million is what it did at the box office... It should have been at least double that amount. Underrated.
@@buckiesmalls Your underrated for that underrated comment.
There is nothing i wouldn't do to get even for whoever dared try or did hurt my wife and kids. I am incapable of ethics and morality if they would be touched only vengeance
The travesty of that film was the ending, Clyde was far to intelligent to fall into that trap, I sooo wanted to see Clyde disappear and Nick looking over his shoulder at his daughters recital very nervous and think he sees Clyde at the door, but it turns out not to be him, leave the movie open for a sequel
1000 times better ending than whatever the HELL THEY CAME UP WITH.
@@davidunoi7099 a cool fact: Clyde was meant to win in the end. But, Jamie Foxx didn't like losing and got the director to change the script for the end. A lot of folks love this movie, love this story, but hate the ending
FUN FACT: Clyde was meant to win in the end. But, Jamie Foxx didn't like losing and got the director to change the script for the end. A lot of folks love this movie, love this story, but hate the ending
Jamie Foxx : "this broken thing works for people that are sane"
Then why didn't Clyde's family receive proper justice?
Nick only cares that the system works for him because he profits off of it. He doesn't care about justice, he only cares that his conviction rate is spotless.
He got naked for the police so they knew he didn't have any weapons on him, and so they wouldn't kill him. One trigger happy cop, and all his other plans go out the door.
na, mans had a glock being held by his cheeks lmao
No he is a perv
he was a white man so even if he was armed they wouldn't have shot him and you know it's true because look at all of the white men who shoot at cops and commit mass shootings who are still armed that cops don't shoot and look at of all of the unarmed black men women and children who cops shoot
Why would they be trigger happy? They had virtually no evidence it was him
In hindsight perhaps that what Rice would've been thinking after losing Sarah and Jonas.
Never before had I wanted the "bad guy" to win so badly.
Which one do you consider the "bad guy?"
@@kimghanson Clyde. That's why I put it in quotes.
never before had i wanted a good guy to be more bad (badder)
One could argue that he did 'win'
Never before had I wanted Jamie Foxx to get killed so badly.
What? What do you mean "the movie?" Oh, yeah...his "character to get killed so badly."
This movie was absolutely brilliant, and so well written. And Gerard Butler is an amazing actor. This is one of my favorite movies, watched over and over again.
the cellphone bullet was so perfect. even John Wick wouldn't have thought of that
This movie was tough. I know it makes me a bad person, but I just can't see anything wrong with Clyde's actions. If I'd seen my wife and daughter murdered and the killer walk free, I'd want to lay waste to everyone involved as well.
So it wasn't wrong to kill Nick's coworker? She worked with Nick, so she deserved to die? How about the security detail for Nick's boss? Please tell me how they were involved in the justice system being messed up. Tell me how they deserved to die.
The first two murders? For sure.
When he started murdering assistants and interns hell nah lol
@@missingclover they were all part of the same corrupt system that allowed the killers of his family to get out free of charges because Foxx's character didn't do his job to begin with so they are't free of guilt. Butler's character proved that if he did this job from the beginning and actually tried to pursue justice he could had easyly achived the conviction but he chose not to, if he had tried but lost at least he tried do justice and failed, the fact that he didn't even try for the sake of his own career is what proved how useless and corrupt the justice system had become.
Nope they were all accountable he was justified as far as I'm concerned if they did their jobs correctly then they wouldn't have died
@@shannonwaipouri1730 Jimmy the coffee guy that joined last year deserved to blow up for giving coffee to those bastards, the fucking monster
Real shame that Foxx had the influence to change the ending, for me this was a great film up until the end.
Same, amazing movie, i just dont think about the ending haha
I was rooting for the Butler character all the way and was pissed at the ending. But logically it had to happen this way. Cause he had become this monster and had to be stopped at some point.
mf also changed to ending of Collateral.
@@HABO2210 Hadn't heard of that one, how was the original ending supposed to go?
@@Rancorous_Ryan Tom Cruise lives
Nikki´s reaction: "oh my God, oh my God" while Steven just grins... absolutely amazing!
I may be sick for this, but at the moment when Clyde is about to torture that guy, I smiled and even laughed the entire time, it seemed so satisfying to know of what he planned to do to the guy. "This [boxcutter] is for your penis, but we'll get to that later."
This is one that will NEVER get old!!!! Butler killed this role 😊👌🏾
And about 12 people. XD
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII 😂
Originally he's was supposed to play Nick Rice, but Jamie Fox wanted the role , and when the brought the idea of switching roles with Butler he loved the idea
@@S_047 I am pretty sure Butler hade suggested it even before Jamie was casted becouse he dident wanna fall into the always hero category but he was talked out of it untill Jamie also wanted to switch roles and it turned out that made the movie better so the production went with that. Butler said this in an interview.
I don't know why I should always be amazed when a British actor nails a pancake-flat Yankee accent, but somehow it has just always seemed like a harder task than the reverse. Don't you think so? 🤨
This is one of those films where upon a rewatch I stop with about 5 mins left and create my own ending in my head.
You should look up the original ending for this movie, Jamie Foxx had them change it.
@@The_Zilli and hence turned a good movie into a lame one
I believe there is a director's cut with a different ending.
I do to. The ending really falls flat. Like they ran out of ideas for a proper ending and just went "They'll figure him out and he blows himself up".
@@nightnaughty Not true. It's still a good movie. You can't just systematically murder innocent people for revenge and pretend it's all justified. And unfortunately you can't let that go in film, because then you have idiots obsessing over it and committing copycat crimes in real life. Clyde was a badass and it was satisfying to watch him kill those directly responsible, but he was also a fucking terrorist. If he isn't stopped by the end, what message do you think they'd be sending?
This is a classic example of a movie I love, yet I have to turn off 5 minutes before it ends
this movie totally tops any list of "good movies ruined by a terrible ending." this movie was awesome up until the last 15 or so minutes. I really wanted a dark, twisted film about a man fighting back against the injustice of our legal system that betrayed him. it would have been better if he blew up the courthouse and the ending left ambiguous after that.
"I absolutely know what it feels like to be completely helpless, knowing that you can't fight fate" honestly I don't really blame him for taking revenge for his family and doesn't hold anything back
That's the question though. What would you do to someone who did that to your family? Would morality mean anything to you anymore?
Why?
not only did i not blame him, i was rooting for him.
@@DanteRU0312 I'd kill him!
I'd feel no guilt. Would I let myself be captured is another story.
My revenge was gotten, I'm OK to move on.
Hypothetically of course😎
@@saviourself687 I don't think anything would mean anything to you anymore. I imagine it's a sort of emptiness few people can explain.
I pretty sure nobody was on Jamie side watching this movie, he made a deal to not loose, over a risk.
And in the end he was still sure to be in the right. You know what's funny? Jamie committed a crime by bringing back the bomb in Gérard's cell, and he got away with it. We must all be held accountable for our actions right? That's what the law is about.
I think that was the point of the ending. Jamies character was all about trusting the system, Gerards was that the system was broken and couldn't deliver justice. With Jamie breaking the law and putting the bomb in the cell, he proves Gerard right.
Bro i hate Jamie foxx's Character too but that was the point of the Ending. Clyde thought they cant stop him cuz they all follow lass and rules
@@degov5 I mean, it was either that or the Mayor and several other people would have died
How did he get it back to the cell before Gerard and without it exploding.
@@degov5 he really didn't trust the system, he realized that the system is flawed and chose to use it's flaws rather than trust it.
Loved your guys reaction. We watched this when it came out for our Criminal Justice class. I do agree with you that Clive pushed boundaries, but it wasn't all above revenge. It was about showing weak points in legal system. Like sometimes precedence shouldn't be excuse to let criminals walk. Lawyers shouldn't plea bargain with murders. The whole point at the end is Jamie Foxx's character while in the right learns a valuable lesson. Not to negotiate with known murderers / criminals. To always seek justice not just a little justice. As the banter between the two intelligent men goes, "Clive we could have lost!" Clive, "And I would have been ok with that because you tried!" This is the point to hammer home. It wasn't about revenge it was about as DA seeking justice for those who been an injustice that happened to them.
Also, he promotes jamie fox's character so he is in a position to make a difference after he is changed by the journey
The only legal system that works is eye for an eye.
The punishment must be equal or more severe than the crime committed, not just to punish the criminal but also warn others not to commit it.
Fear is the best tool to ensure compliance in the world as it plays on a humans basic inescapable instinct to survive.
@@2khotshot Wow. Disagree. You could say same thing with ruling you can rule through fear, but this is only until someone removes you from leading. Using fear to do anything is horrible idea as results are always temporary.
This is why men like King Arthur and other are remembered and honored because they cared about those the ruled over and people like Hitler are distained. I agree punishment should meet the crime. But eye for eye while sounds good. Makes the world go blind. Revenge is a never-ending cycle and not good. Say that person's life you took now seeks to kill you then your family wants revenge, etc. It is bad idea all around. While in our hearts yes someone who wronged you deserves justice, revenge is NOT justice.
Don't get me wrong I am for the death penalty as some people are not redeemable or just plain evil to the core. Also, there is a saying those who seek revenge must dig two graves. But at end of day coming from criminal justice classes I do agree our justice system needs work.
@@shawnkroll3950 there is no debate on it though, its unarguable.
eye for an eye is the ONLY punishment system that works.
you cannot steal again with no hands, you cannot commit murder if your dead, you cannot commit sexual crimes if you have no tickle tackle....
you do realise that criminals (in the west) do not fear our punishments anymore, that jail and fines only affect decent people.
if a good person commits a crime and is sent to jail they fear it because their life is over as they knew it.
whilst an already self made criminal knows no different and jail is just a stepping stone to commiting worse crimes.
punishments should be fit for purpose, not made to think about criminals rights, if you make a concious decision to impede on someone elses human rights yours should be stripped to the same degree.
it isnt a debate its simple logic, it works 100% and is final whilst our current system is a mockery of justice and hasnt worked in hundreds of years
@@2khotshot I am not arguing that that works, but it is barbaric if you don't have due process and trials. Also, it doesn't take into account juveniles or a chance to correct said actions. I am not talking for heinous crimes. But stealing really. Cut of hands. Your method is judge, jury and executioner. So, say a youth steals you say cut of a child's hand because stealing is wrong, which it is. But what if he was stealing food for their parents because they were poor or other reason. Judgement without due process (trail) is not justice.
People all the time claim someone did a crime, but that is why it called accusation, but in today's society making accusation - guilty which is wrong. This system used to be different that other areas too where you are innocent until proven guilty. I do agree with you that of course they cannot do these acts as you have removed those areas which was criminal.
Yes. criminal do not fear the justice system here because we have corrupted system. All forms of justice can be corrupted because men are flawed. There is no perfect system. Rich or poor laws must apply to all equally. Yeah, that worked in past your system, but it is NOT without its flaws as those in charge in past never got their punishment for those actions. Who is to judge you when you commit a crime if you are the one that imposes those punishments. Most people like to claim this but then rules don't apply to them. That is also human nature the bad kind. I 100 percent agree if the person is guilty of crime that punishment should suit the crime. Castration for rape etc. But all in all. I do not disagree with your idea of punishment and not think about criminal's rights if convicted of crime and I do agree a harsher system would help curb crime.
Some interesting info: Gerard Butler was in fact a lawyer, so he has knowledge of the law. It makes his dialogue all the more real in the courtroom!,
He could give The Punisher a good run for his money!,, Great guy cast in this role!!!
“Nick” caused this because he didn’t want to risk his 96% conviction rate. That’s why he made deals instead of taking them to trial and risking a loss. Not for the victims or his clients but because he is a narcissist that doesn’t want to lose.
That’s why he’s so confident and others are questioning if they did the right thing.
Just like when the guy told nick in the beginning letting the guy off w a few years for killing the mother & daughter. Nick wanted a slam dunk case. By letting Darby be the witness to the other guy it guaranteed nick 2 convictions further proving he’s a “great” attorney. He only cared for himself. So my belief is that after the 2 criminals Nick caused the domino affect because he didn’t want to risk going to trial like Clyde wanted.
In the end Clyde proved anyone can be murderers. He made both of them murders when they put the box in his cell and locked him in.
Just my thoughts
Exactly
You are sooo right.Nick let his ego get in the way of Justice.
I think there's a deleted scene where Nick and Clyde get more time to talk about the case, and Clyde mentions he'd be happier risking it and trying the case, because at least then he'd get to face them and get it out. But Nick absolutely was worried about his numbers, hence the deal.
Nick sacrificed justice for Clyde's Wife and Daughter to secure a higher political position. a Con man lining his pockets off the suffering of the victims. hard to believe the studio was confused by the support Clyde got.
Nick shouldve been the last death and Clyde should driven off to a new crime ridden city to continue his path of vigilante justice.
Honestly that ending was a huge plot hole, how did they manage to get there before Clyde when he was almost to the prison by the time they discovered the bomb, I think it was just a way to let the corrupt law win
I'd read a lot of supposition that Jamie Foxx forced them to change the ending so he won or he wouldn't finish the movie or some shit, which is why the ending is literally impossible and is a shoehorned bullshit asspull.
Not to mention Clyde is said to be soo smart but didn't booby trap the bomb so it couldn't be moved. To me the end reeked of the studio stepping in and changing the ending, saying something like Clyde is a terrorist we can't have him win. The ending ruined this movie for me.
Clyde didn't mind to get caught, he just wanted them to learn the lesson, which supposedly he did. Clyde's goal was accomplished. He didn't care about his own life.
Agreed, the ending just doesn't make sense and is really weak compared to the rest of the movie, and those flames look really amateurish
@@autohmae that’s right, I think the ending was to point out the fact that his whole motive was to make the DA understand to not make deals with murderers. Even when he smirked when he realized they locked the box where the bomb was in, he accepted his fate. He knew he wasn’t gonna go out alive.
I knew when the judge said she can do whatever she wanted she was going to get it.😂
How could you not root for Clyde after what he went through.
This movie is criminally underrated. The writing is absolutely genius, the acting is incredible, everything about this movie is a homerun. Not too many movies like this anymore.
I couldnt agree more with the exception of the ending of course.
@@davidmancini8286 Yea I hated the ending but other than that I really loved this movie when it came out.
@@XC11301991 yup same for me. I was so into the movie until the very end. I was hoping for a better ending than what we got but I did hear there is a director's cut that has a different ending. I haven't seen it yet tho.
@@davidmancini8286 From my understanding the director's cut is just extra few seconds of stuff but no alternate ending. In a reddit post a few years ago they shared information that they wanted Gerald's character to win originally. Though through some other writer's decision and Jamie Foxx not wanting to do a sequel they made this lackluster ending instead. One supposed scripts for an ending was Jamie's character returns to the cell and has a fight with Gerald ending in Gerald's character's death. This sets up Jamie Foxx getting arrested and having to make a deal with the new DA as he's now in the same situation as his foe beforehand.
@@XC11301991 oh I see well that sucks. Thank you for clearing that up. I was hoping one day to see a better ending. I guess I will have to make a better ending up in my head. Lol
Only thing wrong with this movie was the ending, either the dental records shouldn’t have matched making us question if he really died or we should have got a phone call/note revealing Jerald Butler escaped the cell.
I got the feeling that he won and there was nothing left for him to complete. that is why he just sat down and accepted his fate.
@@tillasmax Nah, it was a real unedited reaction to Gerard Butler being handed a new script where Jamie Foxx had the ending changed so he wins in an impossible, unsatisfying way because his ego is too big.
@@Domura yup. Such a dick move.
@@Domura That never happened though.
I heard they are making another Law Abiding Citizen, so he might've actually planned his escape.
One thing I gotta say about the meal in the cell: "Joey doesn't share food!"
"One step ahead of the game, isn't a plan kid. Three steps ahead, now that's a plan" Hannibal Smith, The A-Team 2010 (played by Liam Neeson of all people, lol)
For all that Clyde did it was still rough to watch him looking at the "Daddy" bracelet that his daughter made for him as the cell was burning.
That was a beautiful scene with the flames in the background
23:23 I think the judge got the least painful death, she was gone quick.
Also, great reaction in that part.
The man he buried alive had the least painful death, he had an oxygen supply and sedation. But her death is a close second 👍
this was a great movie except for the ending. I always thought he should have gotten away and Jamie foxx's character should have suffered a lot more to learn his lesson. He was justified in everything he did IMO. I always felt like it was a B.S. ending and Jamie Foxx's character basically got away with breaking the laws himself. i heard there was an alternate ending but I haven't found that version anywhere.
One thing I'm glad you don't do on your reactions is censor them....THANK THANK THANK YOU!!!!! I saw this flick for the first time last year and couldn't believe I had never heard of it before. BLEW ME AWAY!!!! Original, suspenseful and an all around great movie. Nikki cracks me up! I never heard her say oh my god SOOOOOO many times in a reaction vid before. Great job on your teeth too....fantastic smiles! ; )
The start of this movie was so intense. It was so disturbing. I’m glad he got his revenge!
My grandmother once told me "Anything you can thing of, no matter how horrible or evil, has been done by someone to someone at some point."
I'm not exaggerating in the slightest when I say human nature is terrifying.
EDIT: Wow, thanks guys! I honestly didn't expect this many likes so soon.
Like in HxH: “… you have no idea about humanity’s capacity for evolution.” Evolution or our ability to do the most heinous shit imaginable. Like nukes. Imagine having the ability to vaporize millions. That’s a demonic weapon and yet we made it. What will we create next? Shudders.
Sometimes, I do wish I wasn't born as a human.
Ironically, even now I'm still struggling in becoming a better human than most human.
I love that you guys reacted to this movie. Absolutely one of my favorite movies!
Clyde wasn’t the bad guy, he was trying to prove a point at all cost. Just as our justice system has “collateral damage” so did his plan. And in order to shed light on the problem, some things had to be done.
Clyde's character is a certified genius. In the beginning, he was working on some engineering project it looks like, probably government contract related. CIA probably discovered his talents and recruited him after his family was murdered. He devoted all his talents to one day make a point and that started with Darby. I love everything about this movie and have no problem with Clyde's death scene. What I didn't like is Fox's character because there was no admission that he was partly to blame for the result. There was no guilt whatsoever and probably one of the weaker acting in this movie.
I honestly think that was the point. Nick could've stopped Clyde at basically any point if he admitted his ego screwed everything up. All Clyde wanted was for people to admit they had a hand in his pain, which no one would do. The writing is actually brilliant. Also, I think what he's working on at the beginning is something private-sector-oriented, and he'd been CIA BEFORE this incident. It makes the 10 years a little more insane, when you think about it. Planning ALL of it out, to the last detail, with a grand finale to follow up on.
no Clyde was already working for the CIA
Absolute underrated beast of a movie. My friends and I were watching this a lot since it came out. I was confused at first because the german title is "The Law of Revenge" so I had no idea yall were watching this lmao
That was a horrible translation. Somebody find that translator and slap some sense into him/her.
@@TheTurinturumbar has nothing to do with bad translations. Some titles have to be changed for trademark reasons ( i.e. Moana is a brand here in Europe so they weren't allowed to use that word for the movie) or because some titles just dont click with audiences over here. The actual german translation for Law Abiding Citizen would be a boring ass movie title.
@@themiIes So don't translate. It's not like the original title was all that exciting, but it did fit.
Oh, and way to contradict yourself. That would be a bad translation for excitements sake.
@@TheTurinturumbar look man I don't translate movie titles and I don't agree with all of them. I'm just saying how it is lmao
@@themiIes never said you did and since you're contradicting yourself you're pretty far from explaining anything.
I saw this movie a few years back and it then too. I love your guy's reactions, this is a man on a mission and no one wants to believe that the system is broke to hell and gone.
I can remember when CeeLo Green's Samsung smartphone went off in his ear. law-abiding citizen came to mind.
One of the few movies where I found myself rooting for the bad guy.
I was rooting for the good guy. But then the bad guys won 😏
@@the_Rade well played 👏
I remember when I first watched this movie I remembered a line from the Punisher... "do you know the difference between justice and punishment?" this was definately punishment.
Law Abiding Citizen is one of the best movies ever made. Especially in the revenge/ suspense type of movie category. Awesome story line, awesome acting. Gerard Butler was PERFECT for this role.
One of my favorite movies!! Fun fact Jamie and Gerard’s rolls were actually supposed to be switched. But Gerard said he wanted Clive’s part. Thought it would be a good switch. Love your reaction!!!
The original ending had him win and not die.
This is such a great movie, normally watch this every few months or so.
He was naked because he wanted the police to know he was not armed. He didn’t want any mistakes to interfere with his plans.
Gerard Butler mentioned in an interview that the movie roles were at first supposed to be flipped around. He was always casted as the "hero" and he dident wanna be just known as the hero actor and pushed to be the villan. Gerard Butler was supposed to be the prosecuter and when he said yes to the movie he made the suggestion that he really wanted to play the bad guy but he was talked out of it. Then when Jamie Foxx was casted for the bad guy after he hade read the script he really wanted to play the prosecuter. So they did a few scenes and it became clear that them flipping roles made the scenes alot better so they stuck to that in the end.
Gerard in a post interview mentioned that he and many others were chocked to se the amount of ppl that actually was on hes caracters side. They all though that hes caracter was gonna be hated for what he did in the movie but alot of ppl werent.
Great movie that was ruined by the ending. Movie would’ve been a 9/10 for me but was brought down to like a 5/10 or 6/10 after they killed Clyde off. Could’ve went down as one of the greatest thriller movies ever made if he got away. But by the end Nick doesn’t learn anything and falls right back into serving the same corrupt system that Clyde was trying expose throughout the whole movie. This ending makes no sense and doesn’t match the buildup of the rest of the film. Clyde was three steps ahead of Nick the whole movie, then suddenly gets outsmarted? Basically the whole time, all this planning, all this prep work, teaching Nick all these lessons, led to nothing. Still irks me to this day.
Clyde was a horrible person. He deserved to lose
@@kellycollins6073 You seem to have missed the point of his character. Not everything is in black and white. Nick wasn’t exactly a good guy either. He was a scumbag lawyer working for a corrupt system who cared more about closing cases than obtaining justice for the victims and their families. And the worst part is he never became a better person by the end, he never grew as a character, he just went back to doing what he always did, going for a high case closure rate. At least Clyde admitted that what he was doing was wrong, and that was the entire point. Remember the scene where he got pissed off at the judge for almost letting him walk on a technicality? He was trying to point out the flaws in the justice system so that criminals like the ones that killed his family won’t get off scot free. That’s why he studied law books and criminal justice after his family died, so he could exploit those loopholes in hopes of opening their eyes, but they didn’t care. That’s why Clyde is such a compelling character and why the majority of people that watched this movie were rooting for him and wanted him to win in the end.
@@kellycollins6073 In a way that makes sense and shows that the things we was trying to teach/fix are taking root. Instead we have a time traveling bomb reaching his cell before him despite having a head start and there being literally no way in reality, Nick learns nothing and doesn't have to acknowledge changes because hurr durr Clyde bad.
Apparently we're going to get a sequel.
Pretty sure the 'I get it now Clyde' he whispers when he actually takes the time to look in Clyde's file and see what had been done to his little girl. Pair that with 'I don't make deals with killers anymore' and the fact that he went outside the law for 'justice' because 'it is about what you can prove in court' and he would have walked. Clyde got what he wanted, also he had dropped like 14 bodies of which I think only 4 were justified (the 2 dudes that killed his family, the judge and the DA). So far gone I think him dying is a good ending. Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for him, but what did his cellmate really do? Or Leslie Bibb's character?
I love how Butler got his revenge and how, in the end, broke the law to get his man because it suited him.
27:08 Von Clausewitz reference was to a man Carl von Clausewitz, who is most noted for his theories on waging war...One of his most famous quotes is: "War is simply the continuation of politics with other means". Even though he died in 1831, his theories of war are used even today.
A great movie, great cast, everyone in this movie should have won an award's for their performances
12:08 He was naked because he wanted to make sure he was taken in alive and not give the police a reason to think he was hiding a weapon.
There’s probably a dirty joke there somewhere but there it is. 😂
This is one of my favorite movies. I have seen it literally about 20 times and it keeps getting better.
Your reaction's were absolutely PERFECT !!.. I loved watching your reaction to Darbys torture scene. That was priceless 😂😂
What's amazing about this movie is that every scene is incredible. If you had any of these scenes in the trailer, you'd want to see the movie.
This is SUCH an underrated and hidden gem of a movie.
Absolutely love this film, except for the ending. I wanted to see the city dissolve into chaos
Law Abiding Citizen and Man on Fire are two of my favorite movies to have ever been made. John Creasy and Clyde are downright terrifying.
Man on fire should have been called Man on Booze
I love these movies you guys are reacting too ❤️ y’all are so much fun to watch.
People won't like this but I was cheering for Nick all through this movie. Foxx's character wasn't. He was a narcissist and his ego made it so.
The perfect ending would have been Clyde having a coffee and reading a newspaper with banner headlines blaring the destruction of city hall with all its various authorities and luminaries.
He earned it in so many ways.
Instead we get this tired old 'good guys win in the end' bullshit.
Still, doesn't stop me from revisiting this every now and then. 😁
@@randallshaw9609 Nah, Clyde became as evil as the men who killed his family by the end
@@kellycollins6073 Evil was not just the people who killed his family. Evil are those that knowingly helped evil people roam free.
@@kellycollins6073 evil, but not as evil. clyde was making a point about how f'd up the justice system is. he was a necessary evil.
@@silverwolf6866 The only way for evil to prevail is for good men to stand by... and do nothing.💯
So this movie is a really good example of the legal philosophy known as *a state of exception* which is defined as a state of circumstance in which the law is allowed to transcend itself. Basically the only way to deal with whatever it is, is for the law to do something against the law, so it gives itself that power. Clyde is a form of an exception. Like his old colleague said, apart from going into his cell and putting a bullet in his head, he is going to continue to do whatever he wants, which includes killing people. In order to stop him they have to circumvent his civil liberties. It's an examination of how short coming a justice system based solely in the real of legality without hardly any morality. If we had one based in morality, he probably would have been put to death after confessing to killing Darby, and definitely after killing his cellmate. Or maybe not since we might do away with putting to death in a moral justice system - so at the very least put in complete and total isolation for the rest of his life.
Our system of every single case is ALWAYS treated as "innocent until proven guilty" is why innocent people are imprisoned for life or put to death, and guilty people walk free. All in the name of some illusory concept called "fair justice," that doesn't exist. Like what do you mean fair? This person is accused by an eye witness and relative to the victims - of murdering and raping them in front of him - and you think that deserves to be treated in the same fairness as what - some shop lifter? It's so insanely - insane.. It really is. Totally insane.
You're half-right. The concept of 'innocent until proven guilty' only falters when we weigh the 'success' of a judge or lawyer by how many people- innocent or not- are found guilty under their watch. In a CORRECT system of presumed innocence, we abide by 'let ten guilty men go so as not to wrongfully convict one', but that is not the system we use, despite SAYING that we do. The court of public opinion is what let several mobsters go and convicted a man of three murders for one person's death.
Clyde is correct in that the American justice system is too concerned with prosecution rates instead of dispensing REAL justice. He simply takes it too far because he never got closure for the horrors he experienced.
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII not far enough Nick still walks.
@@nomadhakunamatata5793 Technically speaking, though, Clyde made his point anyway. The whole reason he did what he did is to show the system isn't just as it is, which he is correct about. Sure, Nick came out alive, but he had to sacrifice his trust in the system to do so. He'd have saved more people if he'd just done the right thing at the start.
@@AdeptusCaeiusIII my problem with that is that I don't believe nick will actually carry what he learned forward. It doesn't feel like he has changed and that moving forward, he will just still care about his prosecution rates more than anything else.
Dude said his own " justice "
Like it wasn't deserved
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great reactions by you both, especially when he was taking them out. Glad you enjoyed the film
When you wanna dine in hell tonight but you gotta be constitutionally aware about it
This movie would have been in my top 5 ever if he had gotten away with it. Or had a redemption arch or something. Hated the ending sooooo much
Absolutely. Had they stuck the ending it would have gone down as a classic revenge movie but they totally ruined it. I only watched it once, will never watch it again.
@@paulmccloud9395 I know, I wouldn't even have minded his death if it had been written better. But the absolute contemptuous nature if his lawyer and the lucky way he figures it out etc, was just lazy writing at the end of some amazing cinema.
Depending on the state, witnesses are required by law, official witnesses representing the state are required, and sometimes family of the victims and family of the condemned are allowed. He wanted to be arrested so he stripped naked so there would no question that he was unarmed.
Bro that phone gun scene still the most savage badass scene I've ever witnessed
This movie changed my life as a little kid when I first seen it 😂
One of the few films that I wished ended differently. It was so good up until the end.
Omg both of your faces during the torture of Derby were priceless! Lol thanks guys, just found your channel and I'm loving it! Love you guys xoxo
Literally my favourite movie, SUPER underrated
One of the best movies I’ve ever watched ruined by the ending sadly
Great movie. Gerald Butler was amazing as always. Well written, well directed.
“Why was he naked?” Because he knew that the police would be coming and that he would be accused of murder. They’d have a reason to be believe he was armed. Since he was naked, they couldn’t prove he was armed so they wouldn’t immediately shoot him
I was secretly waiting for that phone call bomb reaction. I still remember jumping at that.
It's a great film, until the ending. The film maker's didn't have the guts to follow through with the premise of the situation. The justice system was not held accountable for their lies and injustices, the attorney was not held accountable for his actions, such a shame that the true message of this film was lost in the 'happy' ending forced by the studio.
The comment above me wants to tell you that "your compooter have virus" lol
I've seen this movie like 10 times and y'all's reactions have me rolling.
This was one of my favorite movies to watch when I was a kid, this and Phone Booth.
Fantastic movie! John Wick and Clyde would been a damn good team
I remember how unnerving I felt watching this movie for the first time. reactions are as usual epic. love you guys.
Love y’all reactions, priceless every time & continue the good work
Movie was filmed an took place in Philly, I live in a suburb next to Philly and I remember getting so hype seeing all the filming spots like City hall in center city with philadelphia’s mayor having a cameo in the movie he was the one holding the Bible when Nick was sworn in as the new DA.. I love this movie
That movie was intense. Love you guys. Your reactions are amazing. Glad my hubby and I found you guys. Much love from Colorado
This is one of the BEST movies, ever! 🖤
I love your reaction videos. I had to stop the movie after the dismemberment scene when I saw this.
I went to university in the same city, where two young women were kidnapped & murdered by Paul Bernardo. One of those women had suffered & after being murdered, was dismembered and this was a reminder. With godly strength the parents came to forgive PB & while I think the mastermind’s death was satisfying. Remembering what had happened to the young woman, was overwhelming and made me wonder if I could do this.
Nikki I understood your reaction.
You guys' reactions at 23:25 was what I was waiting for! It's one of the best jump scares in something that's not a horror movie!
Great movie. That scene...
"Your heart is really racing....Mine too" 😁
I was there for movie night too! You guys are a blast.
I think a great alternate ending to this would of been when they do a pan of the audience at the recital and they show Jamie Foxx in the crowd, and as their panning the crowd it zooms into the background at the back of the auditorium and you see Gerald Butler standing watching in the shadows, that would of been a good cliff hanger to end on in case they ever decided to do a sequel. After all Clyde was a master planner, they said in the movie that he did everything for a reason and that he wouldn't let anything happen endless he wanted it to happen and I can foresee him thinking something like this happening and him having an alternate escape route. And I've heard rumors that a sequel has been talked about and in the works, but I don't think it will ever happen, but would love it if it did. Think it would of been a much better movie if he had survived the fire and they came out with a sequel, think these movies could of made for a great trilogy/franchise. They could even do a prequel movie showing of his skills.
Well Jamie’s character in the end became a murderer himself. Clyde showed him his personal opinion that sometimes you have to kill to win.
Ending was the worst because of Jamie Foxx's ego
I’ve been seeing a lot of comments saying this, what did he do?
@@thedollpretty91 He made the director change the ending so he could be the hero.