ZERO Digging-Trenching Made Easy-Cable, Electric, Conduit
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I’m 69 yr old woman and I dug a water line using a pressure washer.
I need to run a water line so, could you elaborate on this? Thanks.
Excellent idea!
Gangster
Bet that was messy
Chalk line....nice, but I like the Sawzall technique better.
Since your cable is direct buried, I would suggest running the cable through a pvc conduit riser or sleeve up to your box. This way string trimmers won't damage the cable when doing you yardwork.
I love that the chapter labeled "zero digging" shows you digging.... lol
Love that he says "no tools needed" and then uses a tool the entire video.
The first time I got cable, three young, strong, men brought a gas-powered trencher and struggled for an hour to put the cable in, which they broke and just shoved the broken ends back together. They went directly across my lawn. After I called for a repair, an old man showed up with one of these tools. He said that the cable should have gone the long way along the fence. I scoffed at him for thinking he could do what the three men with a trencher failed at. He did it right in about 20 minutes.
*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
it's called experience, know-how, gumption
@@fvrrljr , Yes. One lesson I learned is to never get cable when they offer a great price in a neighborhood. It means that they plan to hire a bunch of untrained people to do a massive number of installations. The cable installers don't know what they are doing.
@@factChecker01 Thanx for the tip. but with wi-fi i don't get cable not other services that free wi-f- out there. made a cantenna that picks up open signals. don't watch much tv but i do love the free HD channels using the old and true antenna on the roof
The logic is that they would have removed any large obstacles to be able to insert the posts for the fence.
Knowledge is power
6:25 Wilton Thin Line Trenching Spade. Nifty idea.
There are SOOOO many places in the U.S. where the hard packed soil will make this tool impossible to use. But with decent soil, yeah, way to go!
Um... no! Not true. There's nowhere this tool won't work (if you're smart). I live in UT. The clay soil here is like concrete when it dries out... The key here is: "when it dries out". The simple fix is to lay a soaker hose along the path you need to trench, and leave it on overnight. Shut it off in the morning, and start your trenching in the afternoon. Simple as that.
@@username-mc7jw Clay is easy. Try living somewhere with glacial till. 50% soil 50% basketball sized rocks.
Won't work in SE TX in the dry summer either. Our soil is like concrete. You can flood it for a day the day before tho.
I am an ATT retiree. We were trained that low voltage buried cable such as ATT cable and cable TV are required to be buried 12" within a conduit and 18" direct buried. Just FYI. Loved the tool.
Interesting. NONE of them are in any conduit here and clearly they didn't put them 12" deep. Thanks for watching
I too am retired from AT&T and I NEVER found one at 18”, seldom at 12”, usually 2-4”. Contractors don’t like digging in deep due to hitting things
They used one of those when they put my cable line in when I lived south of Houston. It was fine until the summer when the soil dried out an it opened up to form a 2" wide crack.
U just saved my back...I am a63 year old disabled female, with spinal injury, so every time I have to dig a trench on my fixer upper property, I want to cry...but I do it....I'm gonna get one of those things...thanks for the tip...From South Central Oregon
Your welcome glad it helped. Good luck to ya. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for sharing your adventure with us all on CZcams. Now I know how to place down underground wire quickly and easily.
Certainly interesting with a good touch of humor.
I called 811 because AT&T buried my phone line when I was away on vacation. They came out to the place, planted 1 single flag and notified the 811 people that they didn't have anything at this address... sigh - at least they're consistent.
Also - next time - get some bright yellow or orange or some kind of fluorescent colored plastic tape to bury a few inches above your line. When somebody that doesn't know better starts digging across your line, they'll see the tape and know to stop - unless they're using a ditch witch...
Yeah I don't know if it made a difference that I was there and watched him? Well if you dig through it hopefully they will no charge you to replace it again. Thanks for watching.
If I may add ~ always saturate the ground if you are going to use this tool or any other, it's always easier when the ground is slightly damp/moist. Also works for me when pulling up fence posts. And another thing: A chainsaw with an old chain can get most of this trench done in a heartbeat, just be careful with rocks in the ground ...Thank you!
GREAT idea, I've used a Roybi battery operated saw ( $100 on sale ) to do similar
I guess that's great if you're at least 100% sure there's no buried power, water or gas along your pathway
Great job. Thank you for posting.
The thing about cable is that it goes bad a lot when buried. Any water or heavy moisture that enters the cable from either end will kill your high freq signals (internet and high tv channels). It can last a long time, but its just a matter of time. As a cable tech about 10 years ago I would run a new drop almost always on a hookup or even trouble calls.
Just ordered one and then found your video. Looking forward to getting it and not having the mess of my backhoe.
cool. The 12in was a little more work than the 6 in one would be. Hope your project goes well. Thanks for watching.
Great alternative. Thanks for the tip.
You're my new hero! That tool is just what I need to do several feet of low voltage wires in my mulch bed.
Glad you liked the video. Hope your project goes well. Thanks for watching.
It is illegal to open and tamper with the communications pedestal. Please consider calling the communications company to make the connection on that end in the future. You could be knocking out 911 service to your neighbors (or more depending on where in the system you are)
I used one of those to lay by cable for the landscape lighting. Best way to do it.
Nice tool. I'm going in another direction. my pressure washer and an old shop vac I use for wet. I have a few post holes to dig to replace sections of fence that blew down and for Gazebo posts. I won't have to worry about through cutting lines because the pressure washer won't cut.
I would have used 3/4"PVC.that way in case you had to replace or add another cable line .I know that would be an extra expense, but it will be easier for the next time. Great tool .
I agree In running the wire through a PVC instead of direct bury. Add a tagline to the wire will make any replacement or running another wire a piece of cake.
I always run lines in conduit, PVC or otherwise.
I like to add some Caution Buried Line Below tape a few inches from the surface too.
Jesus Christ guys it’s a gd coax cable, who cares. You’d have to open that trench up wider for a pvc pipe morons, he wasn’t going to rent a trencher and spend all day putting a conduit pipe in the ground.
Nice video for people that have nice soil with very few rocks. Not so in many instances. It does make a cleaner job of things when you can. Won't quite work in a gravel situation like I have coming up. Good thing I have a willing friend with a backhoe to get the job done. Very nice video. BTW you can get a flat nosed garden shovel similar to your rounded one you did your curve with to do the trenching as well. I have both the curved and a flat nosed one.
Yea that technique only works in dream soil, not the rocky soil I have
Good on you, brother, but in New England that thing will be used to prop the barn door open. NH = "The granite state."
I have too many rocks for any granite.
I like when they get to the point.
So, A trenching spade. Simple. Easy, I like it.
God! An American who's aware that there are people who live in other countries: wow!
Thanks, that's a great tool, I enjoyed the video: very informative. Also, loved the dog.
Thanks again, from Australia.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it and was helpful. Thanks for watching.
The gentle curve is good for rf cable. A sharp curve can interrupt the signal. Source: former cable guy.
You Rock! Thanks for sharing this DIY project. I’ll be running power lines for solar and you just solved my question.
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Cable TV is very low voltage. That’s why it only needs to be 12” below grade. Electrical cable should be 36” and in water tight conduit. Make sure you do your due diligence to be within code.
I'm a sworn believer in using pressure washer with turbo nozzle. wayyyy faster and less tiring.
As a former utility marker, I can assure you that the machines they use for marking work pretty good. The marker should have started from the pedestal (BOX) and worked his way back to your house. Even though the cable company did not charge you since it was mismarked, The marking company paid for the damage. When I was marking in the state of Kentucky, the cost to replace a cable line was $1000. That was 25 years ago. Its probably more now. I like the tool. It used to be against the law to open the ped, unless you are a locater or a technician. Good video.
No they started at the cable box and when to the source. Didn't realize they charge back the company. I am sure they didn't credit them for me putting the cable in the ground. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for your life story.
Brilliant!
Never saw any of your videos before but this is the perfect balance of grumpy while still being upbeat. 😂❤
..."but they marked over there!".
"I had somebody out here that knew what they were doing...NOT"😅
I bet you are fun to talk to. I loved this video and thank you for the tool suggestion. I need to run wire to a detached shed. This seems doable. You defi itely earned thia like and a comment for the algorithm. Take care!
LOL thank you and glad you enjoyed the video and learned something. Thanks for watching.
this is great. Thank you sir
You are very welcome and thank you for watching.
Thanks for sharing that with us.
You are quite welcome. Thanks for watching and glad you liked it.
Nice job - thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
I only wanted to see the tool. Even though it took forever to get tot the tool I liked this guy within the first minute. SUBSCRIBED!
Thank you for your subscription. Thank you for watching
I saw this tool a decade ago. Good to see he is still making them. It looks very indestructible.
It is, and quite heavy also. Thanks for watching.
I bought the 6 inch one last year to install my sprinkler lines it works great as long as the ground is moist. It took no time for me to complete my trenching.
Happy to hear it worked, I wondered if it would truly work for something like that. Thanks for watching
Thank you! Needed to know if it works with sprinkler pipe!
As others have mentioned, this would have been a great opportunity to utilize flexible conduit to truly protect your cables. I did it with AC and speaker wire last year. The flex conduit ensures there are no connectors underground, so there are no leak points.
Excellent Video!
Thank you and glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
My trick is: Wait for the ground to be soaked after a heavy rain storm and then use a pick to make a trench. Soft ground is easier trenching and easier digging.
This is awesome I didn’t know that tool existed I may have to get one I want to install a small water line to water my garden
I didn't either until I saw it in the truck of the cable guy. Thanks for watching, glad you liked it.
Great video.
Before buying a trenching spade ($85!?) I'd try using my broad fork or even a spading fork (both gardening tools I already have) to greatly loosen the soil along that trench line. After that a flat-bladed spade could probably do the job. If I try this (which won't be soon) I'll post the result.
great tool used it to bury a dish cable because when I ordered Dish the guy would not bury it and wanted to hang it over from garage to my house said they do not dig... worked great!
LOL so they were just gonna let it lay on the ground to get damaged again. Glad the tool worked well for you. Thanks for watching.
What a wait for an obvious tool it’s still digging in my book
Awesome, subscribed
thank you and glad you liked it. Thanks for subscribing and watching
The same thing happened to me. When the Spectrum cable crew showed up at our place
they found the lines were mismarked. They said, 'About 50% of the time, 811 is wrong.'
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nice, like the weatherman and keep the job. Thanks for watching.
Second video of yours that I've used. Liked & Sub earned!! Thank you!!
That is awesome, thanks for the sub and glad you liked them. Thanks for watching.
Hello great video. I live in the California desert and The ground her gets like concrete hard as a rock. But that is a great idea to try if you live in the south . merry Christmas 2023.
Glad you liked it. It worked well in my sticky clay ground I have. Let me know how it works for you. Thanks for watching.
This looks like a great tool for running low voltage wire. I'll probably have to go slow so I don't cut through irrigation pipes. But if they were installed correctly (they weren't), they'd be lower than I need to go for low voltage wire. Thanks for the video.
True, thanks for wathcing.
My gosh! Are we related!!!?? Lol! I feel the same way about doing stuff, there is nothing like doing it yourself to know the job was done right! It is such a shame people these days take such little pride in doing a job well so we have to rely on ourselves to do it.
I found if you wet the ground along the path the night BEFORE using that trenching tool, it is easier to work into the ground. For me its a no-brainer because where I live the clay under the grass is close to rock hard so wetting it first pretty much goes without saying.
Water the yard good a day ahead of time. Heckuva lot easier with damp earth.
So no dig, just need to dig. Gotchya
I'v put in all my sprinkler lines with that tool. It works great. Hundreds of feet....
Great. Thanks for watchign.
If I can press the shovel dip, this might work for my lawn sprinkler system.
That looks like a good tool - if you have the proper ground. Where I live you'd end up digging out enough rocks to get it deep enough into the ground that it might just be worth your while to dig a trench anyway.
True rocky ground will suck with any tool. Thanks for watching
$186.62 for the 12" Wilton trenching handle, well compare that to renting a trenching machine, maybe the time & back work saved by using a machine may be worth renting a machine, I see where the tool can aid in commercial daily uses in time saved and loading & unloading equipment & it's upkeep
Another vid same tool popped up yesterday ODIYHR. Somehow I believe this geewhiz has limited usage. I mean, were I in the plumbing biz...etc, I'd have one. Looks like it's the cat's meow if your sod is the consistency of out of date froot cake. But suppose you have a real yard with rocks and roots? Still...having dug several long lines in my yard using a blasted spine whacking mattick... yes indeedy..there are easier ways. The lady who used a pressure washer.... Hmmm.... Thanks for the vid...Many good ideas here.
Watched a recent vid of contractor digging out a retaining wall from house back to rear fence. Bout 12" from back fence he hit a large fiber line for whole neighborhood. Took out whole internet and phone for neighborhood...oops he hadn't called digger hotline. Luckily he got the phone Co out that afternoon and fixed. He had a hefty bill though
I worked 21 years for an electric company as a lineman. its simple to get on the wrong line. if you are marking cable tv and end up at the electric meter, you messed up.
Yeah, same if you are marking NG and end up at the water meter.
I dare you to try that here in the Ozark Mountians
That's a cool technique & tool, if you don't have rocky or hardpan soil - and possess heavier than average body weight.
Phone company did this once, when I moved about 30 yrs ago. He said they were going to put all phone cables underground. It never happened. The ONLY place I do not see them, on poles, is when a new house is built. And then all service lines are underground. They have been installing new fiber optic cables all around town, recently, but I don't believe they are operational yet.
Nice video. It should be noted that, while 811 locates "utilities", it does not locate "your" buried lines. So, if you have a shop/shed (or some other electric device like a light pole) buried, they do not locate those lines.
If 811 located your irrigation line instead of your utilities, the tech did not know what he was doing. Locating can be tricky, but you are locating a signal sent down the wire - so how did he get the signal on your irrigation wire? I never got them wrong, and I have located many different types of lines.
That's right. What a dumbass. Let's beat him up
Line to home dont have a NEC for dept its at the digression of the supplier but average is 3-5" if done by hand if your lucky it was done by a trencher the main lines that are along the roads etc they will be much deper
Yep the blank blank blank cable company charged me $75 dollars 30 years ago and yes, they placed it 2 inches below the surface. Now I have fiber optic and it cost me nothing to install. I watched and thIs tool is what they used.
That would be 100% illegal where I live. In fact most lines are over 2 feet deep except water.
Ha my fiber install was them running some 1200ft and cost $50 + 1st mo of service...I said sold haha
I have hand planted 30,000 trees using a dibble bar. Your trenching tool looks like a dibble bar but 4x as wide. Your tool is $189. Dibble bar is $49
Btw. I would still count that as digging. Thank god you got a house with good top soil. Not all of us have them. Even in the country, most don’t know anything these days. You could just use that tool. But still great video
i use a small hand ax to do my trenching
For those of you that don't have time to watch a bunch of irrelevant stuff, he actually shows the tool 7 minutes into the video. You're welcome.
Can we pin this comment to the top?
So how did you close the trench?
HOLY COW what a great tool- kinda pricy BUT for the way it worked and not having to trench- it seems like a no brainer- and I was just ahout to start trenching for a sprinkler line- do you think this tool will be ok for that?
If you can make the opening big enough for the pipe to fit into. Make sure the ground around it closes up well afterwards. Thanks for watching and glad you liked it.
Did the same thing with a chain saw turning the chain bacwards and justcut the trench and used a wooden yard stick and pushed the wire into the crack easy ascan be .
I may be wrong, but that sure looks like "digging" to me.
yes in deed
Will that tool dig 24” deep trench?
Do you think I would run into any issues using this method to run 3/4inch poly water line and filling in on top instead of pushing back together?
I did this method with a regular flat shovel for all my sprinkler lines (25mm). You want to push back together to make sure it gets flat afterwards (instead of slightly raised from the compaction+raise this method causes). I partly used my tractor mower to drive along the edges afterwards to push back.
@@MrVidarak I would get about 2-7 inches before I hit a rock. Shovels are useless in my yard. Only a pick can do anything.
3/4 would be too big, I’ve buried 1/2 drip irrigation lines with this style of trench spade
This dude is funny
Very nice. I was wondering about burying solar cable using UF cable. I think that you need to bury the cable 2 feet. I wonder if you could still use your tool for that or if there is something else. Is it okay just to bury the UF cable 1 foot? Thanks for a great video.
this tool won't get 2 foot you will need to rent a trencher or hand dig it 2ft. Will need to check your local code to see how deep it needs to be. Thanks for watching.
A boat paddle works great for pushing the cable to the bottom of the trench
If you have good soil they work good, if not and your ground is dry, rocky or had clay they are pretty much useless
Half my ground is rocks, literally. I have made piles of each. Both are about the same size.
I've done the same thing using aflat shovel
Yeah no shit dude but that trenching spade is 1/4 inch thick steel and meant for you to wiggle the trench wider, a shovel isn’t going to do that, you’re going to snap or bend the shovel.
Apparently the definition of digging is different where he is from 😂
yup
So the question I have is, do you think it could be used for laying sprinkler piping? No extended automation just lines, no cable or wires.
Yes
Hi where is the link? Did it get removed?
It is under wilton thinline trenching spade. www.wiltonthinlinetrenchingspades.com/ Thanks for wathcing.
Pressure Washer Wins 🏆
ATT vs code maybe different. I was once licensed as a cable installer. Basically it was below sod was code from what I recall 20 yrs ago. As if everyone does things by code. Electrical and any piping, I always do to NEC code as a dyi guy or any times I help others. I force it. But cable. Idk. That means nope.
Wish I could find one for sale!
Yeah don't think many used ones out there for sale. Thanks for watching.
This is called hand slicing, and you do not have to wiggle it back and forth like he did . Just push away and have someone stuff the wire . Then you just go over it lightly with a hand tamp . ( used to do this for a living) here in Ct it is not allowed anymore since cable has to 18 inches deep. They also make a plow for a trencher that will do this and tamp it all at the same time . Also not allowed in CT anymore .
I was thinking of calling 811 now I don't know if I should seems they don't know what they are doing. Any kind of cable, pipe or plumbing finder that is recommended?
I call them anyway for insurance so if I hit something I can say they didn't tell me. Thanks for watching.
Those depth would be 100% illegal in my county !! 18 to 36 inches is how deep all mine are. I know because my NG line was repaired a few times and it is 3 feet deep.
Where can I get this tool? I’ve gone to Home Depot, Ace, and Harbor Freight with no luck.
should be a link in the description.
To make it easier before you dig water the grass 😎
I was aerating my lawn and punctured the cable tv line. They wanted to charge me to fix it. I argued to no avail. Then I called back and asked other person how deep they bury. Told me 12”. Well mine was 1/2” at most! So they rebutted it no charge!
LOL, yeah who ever they send out don't care just get as many done as they can and let the issue be someone elses problem. Did they put the new one deeper? Thanks for watching.
Content begins at 6:22
7:01 before he stops jabbering and actually shows you his no dig shovel..kinda like a no fly airplane.. or a no steering wheel car
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Carefully, when they drilled for Google fiber fiber lines, locate came out and marked off everything so they thought, but a 480 volt ac main power line wasn't on the plat map they had no records of it at all, well they hit it and killed the power for about 2 blocks worth of houses.
You cannot trust locate finds everything now you wont be responsible but last thing you need to hit is a live main power feed, fiber cable, or phone and or gas lines. 2 of three will kill you and the fiber will make you blind and cost 1000s to fix. Any of them cost 1000s to fix. Only safe way to do it is dig by hand. All that shit should be in one main 4" dia pipe so if anyone thing needs to be changed you can just fish it out wile pulling a new line. With one exception thats phone and power in the same pipe.
I had a unmarked NG hit by someone repairing the water line. That was "fun".
I was on a jobsite, sprinkler guys hit a 2" gas line LOL not fun
The locator hooked his induction clamp on the power and likely left the CTV and AT&T bonded to the power ground and missed the utilities because they came across at a 90 and the locator did not do a complete sweep.
Correct! I worked as a locator for 23 years. I don't know how this guy got into the cable ped unless it was left unlocked.