Trans Woman Left Out Of Sister's Wedding But Is Mom The Problem? | KARAMO
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- čas přidán 4. 10. 2023
- Indya and Toppaz have beef after Indya was slighted at her own sister's wedding when she said none of the groomsmen wanted to walk her down the aisle because she is a trans woman. In a surprising turn of events, Donna, Indya and Toppaz's mom, comes from the audience. Is she the real problem? Toppaz says Donna favors her other children and Indya says they didn't grow up in a household with "I love you" and hugs. Can Karamo help start to heal this family?
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Her mom did immediately start going off on Topaz. This family needs counseling together. Topaz and her mother don’t seem to have a relationship at all.
The dark skin doll is STUNNING. Her skin is like velvet.
It’s a man
@@goead That look way better than you.
@@darkskinss Well that doesn’t really take away from the fact it’s a man. I didn’t say they were ugly or not.
@@goead Who cares? She still soft, living in her truth, and will not have a receding hairline as she ages, like most older Black men do. She also, I'm sure, gets mad men in her DMs, as she is pretty. So, who cares about what she was born as..it's about her presentation now, and it's lovely.
@@darkskinss He was born with a third leg your father. It’s a man.
They just completely changed the topic. 😂😂
Yea mid vid I noticed that lmaooo
No seriously 😂 I'm like wait wth
Because the tension had nothing do with the wedding.
Definitely did LMAOOO
The sister who got married is not responsible for how the others feel you can't penalized her because the guys or others didn't respond the way you thought they should she still invited you and wanted you to be in her wedding regardless of how other's felt just like she can't control your reactions you can't control others just go with love to celebrate your sisters big day and the mom she is a instigater and not a problem solver good luck to them lol
It’s her wedding though and she didn’t stand up for her sister which is trash af…the sister already agreed that if the groomsman don’t feel comfortable walking with her that she would walk by herself but sitting around talking about her behind her back and making her feel bad should have never happened
@@kendallmax311 I wouldn’t have even asked him to be in my wedding. Sorry not sorry. It’s my special day. I shouldn’t have to force everyone else to be uncomfortable because of one person’s lifestyle.
@@unapologeticallyBlack414if it was my sibling which I do have a sister who is gay not trans but still deal with similar things from the outside..my sis is married to a woman who I love just as much and if people can’t respect me or my sisters on my wedding day or any kind of event then I don’t need them in my life anyway. You basically saying if it was you you wouldn’t care about your siblings feelings to make everyone else happy. Wowww that’s low bc people don’t have to accept but they will respect. That goes for all my fam and friends
@@unapologeticallyBlack414this was the dumbest comment ever. So you’ll basically say fuk your sister to please everyone else? I’ll never go against my sister for nobody. Idk how you was raised but I hope you heal
@@unapologeticallyBlack414 That just shows what type of person you are which is wack as hell you wouldn’t want others to be uncomfortable but you cool with your sibling being uncomfortable and disrespected lol sounds like a punk to me 🤷🏾♂️
Someone does not agree does not make them transphobic. If the men did not feel comfortable, they did not. It's what comes out their mouth and how they treat the person.
that wasn't the point. It isn't your place to tell someone's business
@@thierrydupreaux3305ummmm that’s definitely racist. As long as you aren’t being bothered than it shouldn’t be a problem co existing. This is not an one color only world nor can we help our race HOWEVER for her situation it is different. They did not have to deliver that message in an offensive ways. However , stating you do not want to be around “black” people is most certainly racist because we are the only race you stated you did not want to be around in a world full of other races and ethnicities. It is also racist because you do not know every African American to judge them all ; to even form that kind of opinion of the whole race as one. On this show you will see a lot of African American people ; you’re watching them , yet cannot be around them ? This is the problem with society today. Hell, the show host is African American. Imagine how he would feel if you sat in front of His audience full of American Americans and said this exact comment ……. They’d absolutely consider you racist, because it is racist. Now I agree with this original comment some people just flat out going to accept people whom have become the people the see for fit for themselves, however that is not the same as saying you don’t want to be around black people. Trans people choose to be trans verses humanity had no option choosing what a race. There is absolutely bo comparison. It is not the same. While the original comment IS not transphobia ; your comment IS racist
@@thierrydupreaux3305 i see what you tried to do here. this isn't even comparable. you tried it though
@@kiimloveexactly what I said … I’m like , ummmm but that IS racist. They don’t even compare 🤦🏾♀️
@@thierrydupreaux3305racist comment and sick!!!! That’s why you’re suffering now smh!!!!
The mom is indeed the problem...
If you not at her funeral… do you really think she would know😂😂😂😂
The Apology from the mom DOES NOT sound sincere
Right saying “BUT”
Topaz is over both of them and their fake energy, I hope she’s able to give her kids what she didn’t have growing up.🥺
Yes and she's trying to break generational curses
I believe the sister in the pink jacket... That's exactly what I been through... I don't talk to my sister and maternal parent because of their dysfunctional behaviors, generational curses, and all their toxicity!
I feel you and I feel the same way, unfortunately it's common in "our" families and that's just sad. But at the same time you can't force what should come Naturally 🎯
@YourAverageChick Yes, Thank you!
And now, you being a product of this toxicity, instead of therapy for all, you decide to go no contact. Good healing.
I don’t speak to any of mines either nothing ever good comes out of it . Life been better and peaceful.
@latoyaogilvie7646 Plus, you can get to know your real self... The journey is much better... No guilt, unapologetically!
I really like Topaz! She seems like such a gentle soul.
😂😂😂😂... She use to be... And I know her personally
Gentle soul ? With that nasty attitude?
She does seem really nice. Sadly there are cruel people out there who will reject another person even for what is none of their business.
Both of the sisters seem sweet, and you can tell they've always had each other's back. 🫶🏾
@@user-gw5jb3qy7cyou and me both. I know her since she was 3 years old and you are right.
what’s odd is that at the very beginning she said she was told she would be walking separately… later on when topaz explained that she wanted her to be part of the wedding regardless, “that conversation never happened”… but wasn’t that why she was gonna be walking alone? because it didn’t matter to her sister if the groomsmen were acting weird, she still wanted her there…
Thisssss!!!!
Exactly! He's mad because he wants to walk with a man and they're not having it. That's the issue. You can transition, but that doesn't mean men will engage with you as a woman.
Exactly!!!!
@@joyharper7307 this is weird..
ahh you caught that lol
Not agreeing with something or someone doesn’t make it a phobia.
@@shawn6986exactly!!!!! 💯
@@shawn6986phobia doesn’t always just mean scared it means to have a distaste or dislike for something.
@@shawn6986 if you have a phobia of something theres reasons…bc you dont like it bc of the way it looks or makes you feel. Go search up the synonyms…if you have a phobia of spiders is bc you dont like the way they are in some way…You hate spiders phobia towards a group of ppl doesn’t mean you’re literally scared of them you dont like them for some reason
@@Leah-hl9ee I don't need to search synonyms. Synonyms are exactly that. Phobia is by medical definition FEAR. You are doubling down when you are 100% wrong. Its ok to be wrong sometimes. Phobia's are real medical conditions. Not liking something because your church tells you not to.....is not a phobia. Its dislike. Distaste maybe. Personal values. Religious beliefs. Some say brainwashing. Not phobia. Homophobia, transphobia, biphobia and acephobia is a real diagnoses for some people. But not for most bigots.
@@shawn6986not agreeing and being scared are two different things. They aren’t scared they just don’t agree with people playing God
Topaz did amazing against the victimizers & her mom seems T O X I C
Topaz is a wonderful woman and I hope she finds peace and move on from the people who constantly blame and hurt her
I honestly hope 🤞 within the next decade or so, family therapy & counseling will be completely accessible and affordable for more black families. We need to heal. & I love seeing the families on this show take these steps towards better communication. At the end of the day, we all just want our pain to be acknowledged & we all just want to be loved.
I’m proud of the mother for taking accountability & apologizing. Very proud of Topaz for being empathetic to her mother’s depression & issues w/self-worth.
I didn’t come to the conclusion that Topaz really intended to exclude her sister but, I understand in the moment it was hurtful to hear no one would even walk beside her as if, she’s not even human. That wasn’t right but, I don’t think it’s Topaz fault. I also, think maybe there was an issue in the communication between the sisters too, because her sister did say “If you said that, we wouldn’t be here”. That means, either she said but, her sister didn’t hear it that way OR she said it in a way that her sister couldn’t receive that she was still loved and that she wanted her included.
Yes, therapy should be mandatory….a curriculum 1st period…start of the day. My tears are less than before since I’m healing childhood trauma….Im less triggered.
Many times we are rejected for all sorts of reasons. At least she knows why she was rejected and she can move forward defining how far to relate/interact with some of the people in their circles. Also we cannot always expect everyone to accept us.
Etew weuyuyuyuyiuyuyu
Well said !!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽I agree 💯💯with what u said … ❤️🙏🏽🇨🇦
I really feel that topaz could never get her perspective out. I’ve noticed that if Karamo has feelings about someone, he lets everyone walk over them when they try to talk. Also, the mom is a huge problem. I hope topaz is heard one day
Topaz seems like the only normal-ish one. The other 2 seem delusional like they make everything about themselves
Yep the one in blue is totally trying to refocus the wedding on them if it's YOUR PARTY ITS YOUR DEAL and to force a man to hold hands with even a women is wrong
@@Jenny-uv4dl exactly! Topaz even offered to let her walk by herself bc she still wanted to include her then once again makes it about herself
I like how you said normal-ish one cus ain’t no way I’m going to tell my mom to sit her ass down lol
@@CcBeautiful94 but that’s not cool. It’s still singles her sister out as the other why should she have to other her sister for other people’s comfort
@@Shestheman013 her brother single himself out when he decided to transition. People are always comparing transgender’s to race. You were born a boy you could’ve stayed a boy. You chose to transition. I was born black. I had no choice in the matter. They’re not the same.
Not attending ur sisters wedding because a man won’t hold ur hand is crazy
you’re not trans so you can’t really tell her how to feel.
How you feel and how you behave (or react) are two different things.
No! Not taking up for your sister and removing the groomsmen for his childish and egotistical thinking is CRAZY!!
The moms whole “I’m sorry, I can say that” really triggered memories of how my mom does the same thing lol, like they’re almost patting themselves on the back while they’re supposed to be apologizing? You can see it in her tone and the daughters reaction that she’s heard the same half assed apology for her childhood trauma for awhile:(( hopefully she can put her ego aside and fully hear her daughters
Exactly!!
I feel like race shouldn’t be compared to transitioning. One is optional, the other not so much! When ppl choose to change and be who they are, they have to be ready to accept people’s boundaries.
Exactly and what's more is that he thought he ate with that comparison and everyone just clapped and enjoyed it. I'm biracial. I was born biracial. I can be nothing but biracial. How do the two compare? Technically speaking he was wrong all the way around because all his changes were merely cosmetic🤷🏽♂️
transitioning isn’t that optional. often the choice is between transitioning or a life fueled with heavy amounts of dysphoria, depression, and anxiety.
@@babs_babsit’s a choice. At the end of the day you can remove things and look like a man or woman. You cant take away your African American features. It’s a choice when you pay for surgery, wigs, horomone pills, etc. bc at the end of the day there’s no law or rule stating you have to take that route
@@babs_babs Being black and being trans are just not the same thing, and it's completely disrespectful for anyone to say they are. Whatever trans people go through they go through. All sorts of groups of people go through things. It doesn't equate them to one another.
@@mmapinkall all i said was transitioning wasn’t optional. i never said trans people and black people were the same. idk why you’d give me a lecture about it. seems disrespectful of you when all i’m doing is explaining what my group goes through.
4:40 I agree with Pink sister!! Pink is between a rock and a hard place!!!
1:45 you were doing the most.... NO ONE IS ObLIGATED TO HOLD YOU HAND!! PERIOD!!
Love how the mom switched up when she started calling her out
My brother is gay and is open and i love him and accept his lifestyle. With that being said, i aint walking down ANY AISLE with ANY MAN holding ANY HANDS dressed ANY TYPE OF WAY.
and i aint homo, hydro, train, or TRANSPHOBIC.
and that dont make shit wrong with me
Lol
Facts!
Saying all that just proves your still being ignorant and you can still accept or tolerate your brother but have a bigot mindset like white people have black mates but are still bigots within their thoughts nd maybe their actions in my opinion
😂😅I FEEL YA BRUH!
lol good. A don't allow anyone to try to convince you otherwise
2:39
The hair
The skin
The makeup
Is TEA ❤️😍
Literallyyyyy 😍💯
TEA! Boots! She looked ovah. And her mannerisms are womanly, not like a gay man.
I believe Topaz. This is a classic case of gaslighting. Little Bo Peep was triggered that the men from the wedding party didn’t want to walk with her. 🗣THATS THEIR CHOICE! We are not bullying people into living outside of their truth. Ok? So she punished her sister. But then turned around and said Topaz did her wrong. The mom has a lot of healing to do. I think she resents Topaz for doing well in-spite of her being a neglectful mom. Mom can’t take the credit for The awesome and strong person that Topaz is. Topaz set boundaries and it’s driving mom crazy. Karamo I don’t agree with you on this one. Topaz deserved more support from you. You could have done that and still validated Little Bo Beep.
😂😂😂
Comment of the day.. goes to you!
She cute .. but that Little Bo Peep ... you took me out! 🤣🤣🤣
😅 Little Bo Peep😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bwhahahahahahaahahahha
God I love this comment
Lmao not little bo peep 😂
The daughter saying they didn't get the hugs and I love you really hit home.. not sure if my mom was raised that way, but I've NEVER felt or wandered if my mom loved me, she didn't give many hugs and constantly say she loved us.. I was the same way with my kids, but did tell them I loved them EVERYDAY, but I'm sure without the action of hugging or kisses they may not feel like that.. but once I realized, it was when I started having grandkids..I give hugs, kisses and tell them I love them constantly.. I loved myself, but mirrored what I thought was right.. I would do it all over again if I could..
This really touched me. Reminds me of my mom. My daughter calls her her best friend, something I never would have called my mom. So as a grandma I’ve seen a softness and openness that I’ve never seen before and I’m just so happy my daughter gets to enjoy that from my mom cos I didn’t as a child, even though as you say I knew without a shadow of a doubt that my mom loved me fiercely. In turn, as an adult she and I relate so much more and I really feel liked and heard by her, in addition to being loved.
@thabsmkhize2481 oh wow... your story touched me as well.. and you are absolutely right.. your mom learned as she went, just like the most of us, she changed for the better and that's what count.. awwww, so sweet
@@neikasworld9513 ♥️♥️♥️
I think it’s very fair for a man to be aware that he is walking down the isle hand and hand with someone whom he may consider to be another man although others will not.
I didn’t get how she was transphobic?
Me either.
She wasn't. *They* deem everyone as that when they feel uncomfortable or angry 🤣
i don’t think she was calling her transphobic i think she was correcting her because transphobic is for trans people and the word homophobic is for gay people
Same
same, this generation is sensitive
5 seconds in and I already know what koramo is gonna say 💀😂
*Karamo
😂 do you think he's biased?
Well he’s from the same community
@@brielle2youvery. Hard to watch him sometimes, I like the show but he’s definitely a far far far intolerable lefty. I love watching him, and listening to the show, cause my life is similar to a lot of these episodes. (Family trauma abuse baby fathers)
At the end of the day, even if the man is uncomfortable it’s not HIS wedding! Me personally I would’ve just let her walk alone or had the man removed from the wedding because that’s extremely disrespectful!
Should’ve made him walk alone lol I don’t understand why people don’t do that
Don't hijack someone else's situation if you don't GET YOUR WAY your party your way
@@Kayla-tx3nx some people are comfortable with that shit. Stop trying to make the abnormal normal.
She told her sister she could walk alone, the sister chose not to… and then she offered her to still come and sit front row just to be there and she declined saying she was betrayed bc the guys shouldn’t have known she was trans.
@@kaciousrobinson440 she just wanted to not go to her sisters wedding honestly
I have a gay grown adult child and I don't think everyone has to except him.....
That's why you have to raise strong people.
This is a rough time in this world!
*accept
well i’m concerned for your son if u don’t think people should accept him
Everyone will not embrace the gay life style.
Just like the (trump)ers I don't agree with them and it's ok.
I love him and he has a loving family.
He's awesome😁
Tomato
Tamoto
👀
I stand with the lady in the pink blazer!
The sister can't be blamed bc the groomsmen didn't want to hold her hand. Everyone has choices and respect goes both ways. If you choose to change your sex /gender or whatever it's not going to be a secret to those who know you.
The mom is the problem and she doesn't care that she left, and wants them to get over it. MOM its not so easy!!
Yeah, I think so too. She set that tone and is now complaining it's in the past. Well, they were surviving like her and now have the space to deal with the resentment.
People kill me wanting to dictate when and how someone they've offended and hurt should deal with their betrayal.
I think trans ppl have to Kno ppl DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT YOU!! and that's, that!! Everyone has a preference.
They have a preference to be a whole nother gender and as long as there isnt harrassment or abuse over it, ppl dont have to like it.
I don’t think it was about acceptance it was more about respect. Your 100% right but at the end of the day people have to respect them as human beings.
They don't get that Part
You don’t have to accept anyone but damn have some human decency and respect people for who they are it’s not hard at all,it’s not like she was trying come on to them but they made what’s suppose to be someone’s special day about them and caused a rift between siblings because of their insecurities that shit not cool don’t have anything to do with preferences
@@YouCantTouchSheila Respect for sure! I don't think anyone disrespected her, I think they said No, and saying No is ok, they knew her before and they don't accept it. The sister helped when they were younger, and kinda showed her the way in a sense, I don't see the disrespect here.
Indy is beautiful. Sis is REAL and I’m proud of the woman she is. The whole family is eating! I pray that whatever barriers that are beginning to be broken, heal in return.
This turned into a whole different topic. 2 problems, 2 solutions. Karamo, I ❤ U
I really wish people would stop comparing racism to anything other than racism. There is no comparison.
exactly
Oh my goodness! I just wrote that.
Agreed
I’m with Topez on this ❤❤. I hope she drop both of them.
I liked this episode but I kind of wish It would’ve been focused on the sisters a lil more instead of turning into something 100% about their mom. One sister was saying she felt judge and didn’t feel comfortable. Maybe that should’ve been the main focus so that things like that or comments about her not being able to ever had kids could’ve been fixed. It has to be a respect level
The mother high jacked the whole segment!
@@artfulshinesunhine EXACTLY!!
no fr because why aren’t the sisters allowed to heal together
You cannot convince me that nobody knew she was born A male. I hate how people try to force their beliefs on others. It’s their right to not want to walk down the aisle hand and hand with someone who was born A male. The sister could not force people to be comfortable. The Mother starts drama between the two instead of mediating them.
For real it's like no means no unless the person has transition at which point you have lost all of your rights and you must say yes or you'll be accused of having a phobia
she looks beautiful and feminine like you might not like trans ppl but let’s not lie. she doesn’t look like a man at all.
@@onyxgothiccPeople be so mad. This lady looks like a beautiful woman, which is what she is. Where is the man?
Y’all watching a gay man show and being transphobic gtf out of here
@@onyxgothiccthat’s a big a ass man. Looks like a huge man in makeup.
Just because someone doesn't accept her doesnt mean they are wrong
That's exactly what it means. It's bigoted and shouldn't be tolerated.
Real💯
@@mindyourbusiness660 so everyone should tolerate her, but someone who isn't in agreement with her shouldn't be tolerated.
@@mindyourbusiness660be quiet
@@mindyourbusiness660and that’s y’all’s problem yall so worried about shoving it downs people throats instead of JUST being happy in your skin. you don’t need validation from others just BE YOU!!!!
Parents who abandon their children for a long or short period of time , no matter what their age there’s always a disconnect. The mother isn’t able to accept her role in the damage.
I understand that she felt a way that the guys didn’t want to walk down the aisle with her but if they don’t feel comfortable why is that wrong??
They're wrong because the reason they won't do it is because of their bigotry. I simply don't understand why it's so hard to extend even a shred of empathy to this woman.
It's not 😂 he just got his feelings hurt is all
remember karamo making the analogy about a mixed wedding? how it would be messed up to make one family member walk alone bc none of the white people in the wedding party were comfortable walking with her?
It’s wrong because it’s ignorant af. And Topaz should’ve called it out. It’s not something you just shrug off like “oh well.” Ultimately, she can’t control how others react, but she could’ve been louder in defense of her sister.
It's not bigotry or ignorance. What is not right is a person saying that they were born in the wrong body. The Lord I know doesn't make mistakes! People need to stop trying to shove their foolishness down other people throats. Live how you want to live, but you can't make the world accept you!! If you are so secure with who you are claiming to be what does it matter what another person thinks.
Topaz right ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Learn to listen and listen to learn something we all need to do at times . Wish the best for this family parents don’t realize how much to hear I love you from their parents is like gold falling from the air .
3:51 Im Siding with PINK SISTER!!!
Im a 14 year old and I really love this show. I always pay attention to the techniques karamo uses and the situations because of how my life is now and what I've been through. I know other people can probably understand what happens more than me and they have there own opinions but I feel like the topic of the sister to sister with the wedding didn't really get solved because of the mother jumping in and then the focus got brought to the mother and the sister. Im guessing there wasn't a huge problem with the transgender woman and her mother but why wasn't there a time where they could go back and try to fix the problem between the two sisters even if it wasn't as important or seemed like there was something bigger going on?
Your 14@ AkeylaRoache, at least your young and willing to learn and see what dysfunction is and your aware of the actions of this situation and I agree the " mother "is the primary problem 🎯
Baby girl you are going places. The way you were able to comprehend what is going on in a real adult situation means you're definitely on the right path to healing and dealing with whatever the world throws at you. I wish you all the best and pray that you have someone in life to nurture the amazing woman that you are destined to become. I'm super proud of you! 🫶🏾🤗🙏🏾
U are smart
They are Beautiful and all their hair is laid ❤
Especially the one who transitioned. The hair is laid.
We have to be fair… I’m all for trans rights, but her sister not only asked her to be a bridesmaid she tried to accommodate her by telling her she could walk by herself. If they know you’re trans, you know most likely they wouldn’t want to walk with her, everyone is not as progressive and that is not the sister fault. As far as her sister being transphobic, honestly I don’t think she is because she practically begged her sister to not only come, but be in her wedding as bridesmaids… now do I think her sister says transphobic things? Absolutely!
Had she not told us she was transgender I wouldn’t have never known.
Me either. She’s pretty
I definitely can tell Topaz is the level headed child and doesn't come across as a liar the mother and the tran sister are toxic I would have kept my kids away too 🤷
Just say female
She is not toxic and you wouldn't say that if it was the other way around so shush
@@aimtogoated216 its not female either as its a reference to a dog if you're correcting its trans woman or woman
The aesthetic is giving little Bo peep, and I don’t know why 😂
Very much lol
😂😂
Log off of here miss j nicole love!!!! 😩😩😩😩 RIGHT NOW
Yessss... Category is Bo-Peep realness hunny lol
A man has every right to know if u trans or not pics hit the internet and you’ll have a innocent man defending his sexuality. This community do not think rational and it’s not right ion have a problem with what u choose to do with your life but it’s my choice in rather or not I want to be apart of it and walk hand in hand with u down a aisle while having photos taken of me with u
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE ONES IN THE BACK😂
why should he have to defend his sexuality? bc the blk community is transphobic asf!! so the trans sister is right
Are they fuckin or something? What does her being trans have to do with walking in a wedding especially when she said she would walk by herself…mfs just don’t be having no respect and insecure
Yea a man has the right if they are sleeping with you. If not it's none of your business. This is walking down the isle in someone elses wedding
A man has a right to know if you’re trans if you’re sleeping with him. She was just holding his hand as they walk down an aisle for her sister. Her being trans was not pertinent information in this case.
I believe the sister who got married. The trans woman was triggered by not being accepted for who she chooses to be!
It was the groomsmen’s prerogative to not want to walk holding hands with her. She needs to understand not everyone has to accept her lifestyle! This isn’t the story of The Emperor’s New Clothes!
The grandmother is a wicked liar! She KNEW she didn’t have rights to her daughter’s children so she alleged child abuse so she could get custody.
though she cannot control how people feel she can control who is in her wedding. Personally I wouldn’t allow anyone to make my sister feel uncomfortable at MY wedding. That friend would have to sit it out.
Indy is sooooo beautiful. I hope they can heal together.
He's a nice looking guy 😍
Topaz is the beautiful one caramel skin is better than dark chocolate.
Idk why sexuality gets compared to race? Its absolutely not the same. Idc how you try to flip it.
Well as a black and gay person I've experienced both types of bigotry. Both comes in many forms but being gay really does agitate others more. I cannot speak for the black women experience.
I agree.
Thank you!!!
I didn’t grow up with that from my mother. So I kiss her spontaneously and I tell her I love her. I know she loves me I’m her oldest child and I have her three beautiful granddaughters. She’s an AMAZING grandmother. And I’m so proud of her
Sister in the blue is beautiful.
Brother
@@unapologeticallyBlack414 ooooh so edgy. Get a life.
She too dark chocolate 😮😮😢😢
@@R-DinHo And so what
Not agreeing doesn't mean that you have a phobia at all.
not agreeing with black culture doesn’t make a racist. you believe that too?
@@onyxgothicc How do you not agree with a culture? Anyhow it doesn't make you racist. Being racist makes you racist. How does that relate to what I posted?
You can't get mad when a man doesn't want to walk arm in arm with a man....STOP IT!!
We do the best we can as parents we're not always what our children need at that time but we do the best we can! Understanding and compassion of what other ppl go through is soooo important...
I AGREE! It's all about accepting the positive things that your parents have done. Like me and my husband always tell our children we may be wealthy and we don't know when things may hit us hard in life accept the fact that we've done all we could until things hit us hard and it's all about getting back up after we fall and not about your feelings because of us hitting rock bottom. Even if we didn't have majority what we have it's all about being thankful. And the problem today is that some parents don't teach their kids enough about life and some try to compete with the world so much and that's what the kids are use to. Some parents forget that their children also has feelings so our job as parents is try to heal those feelings instead of acting as if we shouldn't explain anything to our children.
'I didn't love myself' is no excuse for not loving your children. They didn't ask to be here. I know people who turned their lives around to be there for their children. That is a more powerful incentive than a love for yourself.
I love how she made it seem like Topaz "exposed" that she is trans but conveniently left out that they already knew her before the transition 😐
Okay let me just say this. People firstly have a right to feel how they do about another person that has transitioned. It does not mean they should hate, bully, or be verbally abusive to that person, but not everyone is okay or feels comfortable with that and THATS okay. BUT regardless, I don’t see how she was transphobic at all. Whenever there small issues like this and there is a trans person involved, people are extremely sensitive and call anything homophobic or transphobic. It’s like people can’t have rights anymore they have to excuse their comfort for someone else and that’s not true. You shouldn’t be nasty towards anyone or show hate, but it’s alright if you don’t feel completely comfortable doing everything with that person.
If someone said they wouldn’t hold your hand in a wedding because you’re black you’d call them a racist. How is it not transphobic if they just replacing race with gender identity? You have s right to personally discriminate but it’s still shitty
Exactly not EVERYONE is comfortable with gay/Trans ppl I as a straight female would not hold hands with a male to be in a wedding I have a fiance when and why did it become WRONG FOR PPL to say I'm uncomfortable with the situation do it respectful but got every right to do it but the one in blue is HYPER SENSITIVE AND LOOKING FOR A FIGHT and used to flipping situations to be abt them this time it isn't ABT THEM hopefully they will be part of the wedding party quietly or a happy guest
We also don’t know the private conversations they’ve had to say someone isn’t transphobic it’s easy to look at a 15 minute video and say somebody isn’t this or that but we don’t know how they truly are behind closed doors
@@Jenny-uv4dlright if i don't wanna be around or touch black people i shouldn't have to they make me uncomfortable and i have a right to not want them around me
I don't agree with this because if someone was to say they are uncomfortable with someone being straight they would instantly be invalidated by the majority. You guys only say this because it's a minority group you are not apart of. We should not be made to think this behavior is okay.
aw the son has beautiful skin
Daughter*
@@Lunar2Lit Son
I didn't see that ending coming! It was a beautiful one, but I wonder what are things like now (after the cameras stop rolling)
I hope and pray they can grow together
Pray that they give their lives to Jesus and give their lies back to Satan
Let’s understand something, transitioning is your choice. At the end of the day the world doesn’t have to accept you but they can allow you your right as a person. They don’t have to walk with you. And grandparents don’t have rights especially if both parents are living.
Trans or not, she is a human being. It’s not contagious so idk why someone would refuse to walk with her down the aisle
Some heterosexual men and women are weird acting when it comes to trans women. Me being a trans woman myself I have experienced people not wanting to be around me or uncomfortable when I'm around . Which is weird because I'm not sleeping with you I'm honest about what I am and they'll make themselves seem so uncomfortable when it's like it's not that serious you have to be around humans that you don't like all the time but you still have to respect them if you want respect. One thing I will say if you don't want to be around me I don't want to be around you either but I will not be the one to leave I just will act like you're not there and I suggest you do the same. Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel but you still have to let other people live their life even if you don't agree with it. But a lot of heterosexual men and women will go out of their way to create problems with you or cause a scene when they're really insecure or they have something that you riled in them that makes them question themselves. Specifically the men because if you don't like something just don't deal with it but you still can be respectful and act like a adult
It could go against a person beliefs. No, it's not contagious, but another person shouldn't be forced to hold hands with a person that they don't condone their lifestyle.
@@user-Tina8462 that’s straight up stupid. So you would be ok with someone refusing to hold hands with another person because they’re vegan or golf on the weekend ?
Awww good job aa usual Karama Blessings
The groomsmen had the right to know. And she had the right to decide if she didn't want to go to the wedding.
She wasn’t sleeping with them. They had the right to know nothing!
@@kennedihill4155 exactly so I don’t see the problem
@@kennedihill4155.. and you wonder why trans get murdered because they don't want no one to know that they are trans.. y'all love playing with fire..
You can’t do something to someone and then dictate how they should react to it. Her sister is trifling…PERIOD.
You can’t be angry with her for how someone else reacts. Just because someone is uncomfortable doesn’t mean their transphobic
Beautiful family learning to get along
You say beautiful but don’t forget that hell is real but not a man that thinks he’s a woman and really is a woman that’s a lie , that’s a he in female attire that’s not a real she
This did not go anywhere. Theres parts missing from the story. The sister in the pink jacket did not cover what actually brought them there ..the conversation that took place after is what we didn't get to.
What a great ending
“Transgendered over…” that’s a first
A person does NOT have to accept you. They HAVE to respect you. Just because a person does NOT agree with your decision and chooses not to walk with you in a wedding, doesn't make them disrespect you. The groomsman is a man who chooses not to walk with you. He has that right. Why would he chose to be uncomfortable to make YOU comfortable? Take away being trans or whatever, yall are STILL people with feelings. His feelings should still be just as important as yours.
I need tickets.. I be at work with earbuds in.. and I need to see this live.. ❤
I didn’t expect (blue dress) to be trans…. STUNNING ❤
I did everything screams man playing woman
Are you blind???? Blue dress screams, sign languages,writes in the sand MAN IN A DRESS
@@Jenny-uv4dl first of all… nah I’m not blind, don’t be rude about it. I just saw the thumbnail BOOKIE BUTT ✌🏾have a good one
@@cartoon171 I just thought that because of the thumbnail lol😭. But then I actually saw the mannerisms
@@itssskaela6628 I can understand that lmao
I love how Karamo handled this and I like this family. They just need to listen to each other like Karamo said. Yall beautiful. I will say, though, that the transgender issue is touchy. I'm a gay man, but I have mixed feelings about it. I think transgender women should be proud and not try to hide it from people...but at the same time I don't think it's cool when people are just spillin the tea. It doesn't sound like that's what happened here. She said those men already knew her before she transitioned. That was the confusing part. I also think that's it's dangerous for transgender women to hide or not let men know. There are men who will literally take you out of this world because they feel like you deceived them. She said she wasn't sleeping with those men, but that doesn't matter. That small interaction of holding their hand while walking down the aisle at the wedding without them knowing you're transgender could lead to your demise if they feel tricked. It's better that they know beforehand. This is at a wedding, probably being recorded, and it can get messy and escalate.
well said
Why is it that when some ppl transition they get mad because every one don't agree..smh
Be something if they start calling him everytime something happen😂 hollering Karamooo she ain’t listening lol
The one in blue is gorgeous and het skin complexion is 😍😍😍🔥
She is a beautiful young lady
Mother and daughter are both jealous of topaz
Facts! Brother is jealous because the Sista is a real girl at the mother seems like she’s a recovering drug addict, and Messy
@@unapologeticallyBlack414 THANK YOU!!!!!!
Karamo is a amazing communicator ❤
Mom is a problem. And the brother/sister individual is also a problem. The sister said that she still wanted the individual in the wedding regardless of the groomsmen not wanting to walk down the aisle and the sibling took it personal. On top of making it like somebody said he was trans when they knew him before transitioning. So I believe he personalized it based off of their own insecurities and then tries to blame the sister.
Sister not sister/brother
Omg
I don’t even know the one in the blue was trans until the sister said it
The mom is also a problem
I love how karamo mediates
Can I just say this…
they’re all beautiful as hell.
Entitlement! Nobody has to accept that
I love my trans friends but they woudont compare them to being rejected for sometime they can't hide like being rejected for race. Being black I can't stop anyone from getting up abd leaving the room when i show up, or moving thiwr kids away from my nephew cause he is mixed and autistic 😢
being trans i can’t stop anyone from getting up and leaving the room when i show up, or people going out of their way to talk about my sex publicly, or people moving their kids away from me because they think trans people are predators.
it hurts to be rejected for shit that’s both out of your control and a deep part of your identity. there’s a lot of stuff between being black and being trans that wouldn’t be fair to compare, but we both know what it’s like to get shit just for existing around the wrong person. we both know what it’s like to be widely regarded as “lesser” in society.
Im lewrning so much from th3 karamo shoe i know what and what not to do when it comes to fwmily karamo your amazing i will try to use your techniques with my children
Y’all in the comments saying no one has to cater to her transition but aren’t understanding that she also has the right to not go where she isn’t comfortable.
Beautiful family, I hope they can work it out!