The Most Intense Debate in JRE History
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- Joe Rogan hosted the biggest debate in Joe Rogan Experience history with Classical Archeologist, Flint Dibble, and controversial journalist, Graham Hancock.
Graham Hancock's Netflix series, Ancient Apocalypse, as well as several books he's published, are a great source of tension within the scientific community.
In this video I react to Archeologist, Flint Dibble, debunking and disproving Graham Hancock's theories on a lost civilisation.
The clips in this video are featured on JRE #2136 w/ Graham Hancock & Flint Dibble.
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Since the appearance, I have been reliably informed Dibble has been seen in the audience at Kill Tony, purchased an ice bath and started ju-jitsu classes.
and had some elk meat
Dibbles gonna return to the show freaking jacked and bald
felt a glitch in the matrix when he started alluding to his "next" Rogan appearance toward the end of the Debate™
@@matthewsnyder674Don't you just hate that?
How long until we see Dr Dibbles onstage @ The Mothership, working on a tight 5min set?
“Jamie pull up Flint’s sleeves..”
Underrated Comment
@@Whitesquall123so true. Best comment
haha
😂
I can't with these comments 🤣
was Flint also wearing his dad's suit?
1:02 You killed me, thanks dude.😄
He was for sure wearing his sleeves.
100%
Hey! I made this joke first! Give me half your likes.
Thats just 3 kids inside a raincoat and a hat
Flint Dibble is an Always Sunny character lmfao
Mantis Toboggan....MD
That is perfect
I could see the gang destroying his life in an episode.
is that his real name?? 😂😂🤣🤣
Crazy you say that. He's literally Jack Kelly. Same oversized suite, same voice, same cadence, and same small hands.
I used to smoke a lot of Flint Dibble but it made me very stubborn and wear weird hats. After my dad came and spoke with me about how I was acting and bringing shame onto him and our family, I decided to put down the dibble
Flint Dipple and Graham Hancock sounds like two NPC’s you meet in Red Dead Redemption who are very eccentric and give you a side quest to go find cave paintings or dinosaur bones
😂
Brilliant
both have no weapons and speak past each other 🤣
Nah Flint and Hancock is giving Fallout 4
Genius!
He's also known for being his father's son🤣🤣🤣🤣
my daaaad
Warrior.... struggling.... to remain...
Jesus he sounds like a 6 yr old bragging at recess 😂
@@Medicalcannabisukwhoa buddy. The mash up of “my dad” comments are valid and odd enough to joke
Now you’re hostility at these valid comments is the odd thing. Judging by your reaction I’d suggest perhaps it’s you who has some sort of complex on the subject of “my daddy”
And for wearing his father’s clothes…
😂 I lost it when he was changing his glasses hahahahah
Close and long distance glasses
“Flint dibble and yes that is his real name” how many times u gunna say that lol
I kept thinking the video started over.
Drove me nuts
That was the best part tf
I found it hilarious because when I actually heard this guys name for the first, I literally thought inside my head, "wait thats actually his name???"
So I just found it hilarious that this guy is just as flabbergasted as I am that someone could have such a name lmao.
Like it was funny the first time but his name wasn't that weird, so it just got annoying.
“Enjoy 2 nerds having it out in front of a UFC commentator” This podcast is literally South Park episode.
Well, not LITERALLY.
@@ImnottapinataOh thank you so much for pointing that out.
I'm sure there is a better platform specific to this stuff. Wait. There isn't.
Ted Mosby is that you? @@Imnottapinata
South Park? So two nerds can't argue with a UFC commentator? Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry I thought this was america. I thought this was america!
Almost died playing take a shot for everytime Graham changes glasses 😂😂😂
That shit was too funny 😂
Man wtf is he doin hahaha
Instructions unclear.
Currently in the hospital for alcohol poisoning.
hello tolllkien
For real..guy never heard of bifocals before?
I can't help but wonder... is "Flint Dibble" his actual name? The narrator wasn't very clear on that point.
sadly yes
@@thekey1175
that was rhetorical. He said it's his actual name about like once every 2 minutes through the whole video. Lol.
@@rogerscurlock2927 I think he obviously knows that bro lmao
@@phoenixmodellingphotography
People generally don't answer questions they understand were rhetorical. Lol.
It’s like someone reading from a teleprompter. He says his name and thinks the rest of it is part of his name too. 🤣
„Hey Lois, this is even funnier than when I was the corny archeologist Flint Dibble”
underrated comment
💀💀💀
Omg comment of the century
flint: "I wasn't alive yet, how would I know?"
sir, that is your whole profession
Flint didn’t have every answer to every question therefore the ancient alien civilization of Atlantis is REAL! An old British dude told me so it must be true
Exactly there is nothing at all wrong saying you don't know to a. Single question when you answer multiple other questions.@@rumbletown1563
@@rumbletown1563 shows how much you pay attention and are informed. Graham stays away from aliens and doesn't even say anything about aliens. He believes in advanced ancient HUMAN civilizations.
@@MrJaybeezy123 graham is a fraud my guy. He just ignores real archeological evidence and instead imagines a fantasy history
@@MrJaybeezy123 He used to talk about aliens though, since its even more idiotic than the shit he talks about, he quit it.
Love how Dibble starts off insisting that you can't possibly tell someone's race from a depiction, then uses a depiction to insist on someone's race
Hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness go hand in hand.
There is no way you ignore the context, so you can try to be right.
Using the description on a stone tablet to distinguish race is so far removed from using a coloured picture.
It's also noteworthy that Graham says that you can't tell anything from the colour picture that Dribble uses so at best you could say that neither of them are listening to the other ones point but at the worst you can say that they are as bad as each other.
Only one side has actually evidence though.
It's also hilarious that this other empty head would mention lack of self-awareness when you both displayed lack of self-awareness right here 😂
Flint Dibble's hat belongs in a museum
This definitely wasn't the most intense debate in JRE history.
Definitely not
Literally anything with Alex Jones is a million times more intense.
The one when Joe Rogan debated with the "disingenuous" debunker.
@@muddbear6410did you really tab for new paragraph on a CZcams comment!? That's wild
The vegan guy vs the Paleo guy was pretty good
Flint's suit is fucking hilarious.
His mother should have dressed him better for his big day.
He could be wearing a Lil Kim pasty dress with the titty out and it wouldn’t have made him any less correct
Gah! I knew there was something about this guy that seemed really ‘off’ but I just couldn’t put my finger on it- it’s his ill-fitting suit!!
It’s mostly the button-down shirt’s sleeves. They’re covering his hands like he’s a toddler
It's his Dads
“Jamie, pull up Flint Dibble’s Early Life section”
"I'm presenting facts about what you said"
"And I'm presenting facts about archeology" - Ngl Dibble was kinda slick with that one
Lol dude came across as an absolute condescending moron. I watched the whole debate and came out thinkin flint was an absolute moron living off his father's prestige
Dude looks like he wears his dad's suits too...
This is the comment I needed! LoL
That’s definitely his dad’s suit, or he got it from a thrift store. They don’t even make suits with shoulder pads that big anymore. Lookin like he stole the cushions off a loveseat and sewed them in there.
Not a lot of people have reverence for their fathers, but they should, so of course, I think it's natural that we would point out somebody who actually respects and loves their dad as being weird.
Dad's always get the short end of the stick
Graham looked terrible on this episode. Had almost 0 evidence to provide. The core of his argument was just "but have archeologist looked EVERYWHERE???"
I thought the same came across salty, even with joe having bias towards him
Flint didn’t convince me of his side but Graham convinced me by saying he himself had “no evidence at all” of his theories. 🤦♀️
Fax. It felt like half is argument was playing the victim card. I get it how those articles on him were misleading but damn dude.
@@christinathein951Flint would go on to say "we have excavated thousands of ice age settlements and have found 0 evidence of this ancient civilization" Graham: "What percentage of the entire planet have you excavated though?"
@@jamescoayI'm not necessarily on Flint or Graham's side, but what I can say is, at least Flint came prepared with some legit evidence to support his side. Graham showed up with screenshots of tweets and some blurry photos of his scuba diving vacation with his wife.
Mf looks like he just got Zoltar to change him back
underrated comment lol
the guy narrating this video is 100% chat gpt
no he's not i know him personally
“Flint Dibble” was the second choice porn star name for Marky Mark’s character in Boogie Nights
Known for having the weakest ropes in the business.
@mischkin3588 more like Flint "Dribble"
Sure, Flint is the one with the pornappropriate name
@Rrang4 Haham grancock
Actually Dr Dibble was the second choice
swear if the old dude sounded American instead of British nobody would care what he says
its true, but there is a reason for that! hahahaha. The english education system is considerably, considerably greater than what the Americans have.
It's like how that 70s sitcom Are You Being Served? is considered the height of British comedy in America while it is considered dogshit in the UK, it's because Americans find British accents fascinating.
@@johnran6015 British comedy in general is massively overrated.
@@831bowl isn't it way easier lol
@@adamimberti6948 it requires a higher intellect to grasp
Hey, flint, what are your qualifications?
“Okay so my dad-“
Nepotism
@@joerarey8496 i dont think being in the same field as your father counts as nepotism haha
@@joerarey8496 thats not nepotism lmao
@@elliot2773 /sarcasm, like in the movie step brothers where John c riley keeps telling his dad that work is all about who you know and that he plans to follow in his father's footsteps, 'but you're a medical doctor?' 'I've tried to explain it him' lol
True😂😂😂
The super cut of graham constantly switching glasses was so funny. It was like a monty python skit.
I thought the same thing. What’s so funny is that it couldn’t even be comedically exaggerated. You would expect a parody where he switches glasses before he even lets go of the old pair, but he already does that in REAL LIFE lmao.
He’s British so makes sense hahaha
Hancock's claim that Spaniards couldn't influence Latin American cultures sounds a little moronic once you realize how prevalent Christianity is there.
Or the fact that Spanish is the most spoken language in the Americas, surpassing English and Portuguese
Where do you think the language they all speak came from???? 😂
There culturally more spanish then indigenous
Influence is more of an understatement
Agreed, but Graham is absolutely right about the Sahara (only 1% excavated) and Amazonian rain forest (5% excavated). Dibble didn’t even debate him on it. That’s where Graham should’ve leaned in
Watching JRE has become a chore, unless certain people are guests, so these breakdowns are appreciated.
I stopped watching months ago when I realized Joe really was just gonna keep saying the same 10 things every episode. I watch the dawgz now (M&SSP) and occasionally I'll see a video like this or watch an episode if it has someone I really like. It's just personally if I had a couple hours with some of these interesting people I wouldn't take time to talk about MY daily cold plunge, sauna carnivore routine for the 55th time that week or regurgitate that the world is woke now and how barely funny comics are the savior to humanity
Same 2 u
*dap*
@@jordanalexander1592 ancient alien and big foot conspiracy theories aren't substance
I disagree.
Those are not the hands of man that digs through rocks for a living. He tried hiding them with his oversized shirt cuffs, but I’m on to him.
Your comment reminded me of that lawyer in It's Always Sunny, the one who's hands are too small. Lmao
wait.. did you think archaeologists physically dig with their bare hands? lol
He’s got gerbil hands,, I think stunt doubled for deadpool when deadpool was in his baby form
@@laneswervethey absolutely do, have you not seen footage of them on their hands and knees armed with nothing more than a brush as they wipe away the dirt?!
Did you think they use machinery to dig up precious and fragile artifacts and the brush thing was just a movie trope?
@@sirtra this has to be a joke. There's no way you're this confident in your answer while simultaneously providing the reason why you're wrong in your own reply.
Yes, they BRUSH away the dirt. BRUSH. Not dig into the dirt with their bare hands to the point where their hands become calloused and rough, which was the entire freaking point of the comment.
The process is read the comment, understand the comment, THEN respond sarcastically. You skipped the understanding part.. Nice try though ;) /headpat
Imagine having a career as an archaeologist and not getting any public exposure or seeing mainstream media taking any interest in what you do and then suddenly there's a Netflix special for a guy who isn't trained in your discipline and has a lot of half-baked ideas that contradict what most archaeologists believe to be the most coherent telling of our past. It would be somewhat frustrating I imagine, and of course, you'd want to counter their arguments and try to let the world know why archaeologists reject the ideas presented are lacking in supporting evidence.
Indeed it inspires jealousy. Nothing wrong with countering the arguments, nothing wrong with giving a retort. The exaggerated behavior, condescension, implying he's helping white supremacists, etc. is too far. I don't believe Hancock's ideas, but the idea making claims is "dangerous" is inaccurate & an old excuse to restrict freedom of speech. Few people care enough to engage with the ideas seriously or influence the practice of archaeology. Anyone interested enough to actually engage with, memorize & start influencing the field of study will have the truth and evidence already readily & widely available. Heterodox ideas will always exist & should be embraced by the community for the purpose of highlighting their truth.
@@user-xs3nx8mv9d so I imagine you're much like me, and able to watch people on Joe Rogan and make your own mind up. I do wonder if it isn't the publications themselves who encourage people to cite racism as a reason for countering somebody else's ideas as it seems to be an obsession of much of the press especially in the US. Graham is obviously not a racist and it's an extremely hurtful and even a harmful accusation to make. That said, it is true that racists have attempted to diminish the achievements of non-Westren civilisations and putting forward arguments that achieve this goal, even as a bi-product, supports these people, but I still don't think this makes these ideas necessarily racist.
@@jim23mac We agree on those things yes. The archaeological community is doing themselves a disservice
You could be a trained scientist but all those scientific studies were already proven by ancient Hindu scholars lol. They even knew about the universe and time dilation. To even a nuclear war in Invictus Valley in India 🇮🇳. Don’t forget that all the civilization created all their pyramids at the same time! lol 😂 so tell me who’s a better thinker I think Dr. Grand than that archaeologists. Plus the guy in the hat keeps trying to attack his credibility and character than goes lower and calls him a racist.
@@jim23mac A lot of people misunderstand graham and make assumptions crazy assumptions about his theories like "I've heard Handcock says Egyptians didn't actually make the pyramids, but white people did it instead." or something ridiculous that he never said just because he thinks the dates aren't accurate.
He wore the hat so you could tell he meant business about Archeology. 😂
It would be funny if he wore tin foil hat
@@VulgarTruth that would be GH 😂
My man did a 4+ hour podcast stiff-necked so he didn’t have to take the hat off to wear the headphones properly
he had previously been fighting nazis to find the holy grail
Indiana Dibble and the Raiders of the Lost ARc
First time I’ve seen Joe give proper push back against Graham.
It also explains why he push back against pseudoscientists instead of professional epidemiologists post Covid era.
i noticed this as well. this was 100% attributed to flints tangible and credible evidence in comparison to grahams opinionated trust me bro pseudo science stories
@@LowKickMT It's ALL 'trust me bro".. can't you understand that. We've dug up a few bones.. the rest is speculation
@@calholli Yes. That's the whole premise of the conflict. The Dribbles are trying to tell you facts based on their hypostheses and Hancock is trying to point out that it's not facts and the door is being shut on any other possibilities. Neither have to be right, but one side is saying they have solid facts and there's "no debate". That they rely on anyone disagreeing with them being discredited as huwite supremes... Like those anthropologists running with the current zeitgeist that bones found were non binary or trans... the establishment is very broken and need to be hunted down and allowed no respite.
@@calholli is you can dig up artifacts its not speculation. thats man made.
Don't think I have ever seen a person that looked EXACTLY like his name.
I tried to play a game where I took a shot for every time Flint mentioned his Dad, I ended up in the hospital.
"I'd say a bunch of it has been surveyed, including by my dad."
😂😂😂😂😂
That killed me.
made me cringe my balls off
What's wrong with a child being proud of their parents achievements
@@Ktmfan450 Ya, I thought that was cute and wholesome.. 😊❤
@@backtomyroots6515 His dad spent more than 50 years working in Archaeology
It's impressive how much he contributed to our understanding of ancient culture
Why is this dude being proud of his father such a point of contention?
because most people dont have good relationships with their fathers so they get angry when they see someone who did. Flint loves his dad and is proud of his work and contribution to his field, thats a sign of a son who admires his father
I was thinking the same. It just sounded like a guy that's genuinely proud of his dad and still looks up to him. I thought it was nice honestly.
Because it has nothing to do with evidence and he's trying to leverage the legacy as it somehow adds to the credibility of his case. BTW I'm not on any side just pointing out the obvious.
@@nicholasbrown668 its cringe when kids brag about their daddies let alone a 50 year old man
@@MWMTEE annnnnd my point is proven
Aztecs were way beyond hunter gatherers
It's not Graham they need to talk to. It's Randy.
I loved this comment " Jamie , please pull up Flint Dibble's sleeves" 😂😂😂
"and yes thats actually his real name" we get it
Yeah lol I didn't even think about it the first time, but then again this guy is as Brit as it comes so maybe its weird to him
3rd time of him saying this holy shit how many more times
Thank you! I never knew someone's name could be such a topic of conversation 🙄
Its like being in a room with two completely intolerable people and having to sit there and take it in.
I watched the whole thing and never caught the glasses switching. LOL epic
I also hate when the "mainstream" archeological community tries to cancel me.
Aw shit i miss Zune. So underrated.
Big archeology with their liberal agenda.
@nedisahonkey get yourself another one and join the cult, I mean family.
Yeah I’m always afraid they’ll dig up some dirt on me. (lol?)
You archeology bad boys are always up to no good
My favorite comment on this JRE video was "Let me get an 1/8th of Purple kush and an 1/8th of flint dibble" hahahaha had me dead
lmaoooooooooooo
And his brother was named Chip
I’m dead
Can we also take the time to point out he quoted someone instead of just stealing the comment👏🏾
What a loser.. loving and respecting his dad!
There’s having a deep love and respect for your father, and then there’s going completely over the top, and almost using him in a fallacious manner. “My Dad says….” “You’re wrong, because my Dad….” It’s boring.
Flint sounds like a child but looks like an old English teacher.
I’m your teacher. First lesson my dad….
So a redditor
@@JCDenton916😂😂😂 💀
Graham just wanted social reprisals and made it far too personal, it was childish to watch.
Honestly, look at how they ended the debate Dibble called for donations to keep archeology/anthropology research going. Hancock shilled his books. The motivations are there.
Yeah and one gains profit and one gets the money and then has to go to work
Amen. Have the archaeologists been harsh on Graham. Yes. Does he deserve it. Yes.
@@SapperRJMorganno he doesn't.
So crazy that a man who made a whole lucrative career out of talking about ancient civilizations might not be 100% accurate 🤯
Graham will be looked at differently after this episode.
People like you are why I find "The Department of Truth" and the concept of a world in which collective belief has the power to reshape reality (i.e. the more people believe a thing to be true, the truer and realer that thing becomes) to be so utterly terrifying.
The Indiana Jones hat was the first thing I noticed as soon as he said "I've been an archeologist my whole life", surely if youre going to dedicate your life to archaeology you'd want to separate yourself from the famous movie archeologist as much as possible, not play into it 😂
Why? People love these great characters
Nobody can be Indiana Jones in real life but you can still realise how bad ass the character is
Indiana jones killed Nazis. Why do you think he dressed up as him?
His dad's a pro in that line of work, and he is too. So it makes sense that he's proud of the stuff his old man does. But I don't get why people are giving him crap for being proud of his dad.
because hes a dork
I found that baffling as well
Exactly. Regardless of one’s opinion on how the debate went, the guy being proud of his dad’s work is a non-issue
A lot do the idiots here that don’t know their own dads or are shitty father’s themselves.
Yea there’s nothing wrong about that we all have dads guys. Being proud of them makes you more mature than someone like a teenage who is embarrassed to bring them up.
Hancock likely wrong? Yes.
Do you need to call him a racist for it? No.
Do you need to cosplay as Indiana Jones? Maybe not.
And Hancocks primary argument is basically we have only looked at the tiniest fraction of these areas so there may be much more. Which seems super reasonable
@@FirstLast-gk6lg yea and he also says that archeology refuses to do more investigation, but he forgets that as an archeologist you cant just go to a site somewhere in the desert with a shovel to start digging, you need funds to go on expedition. since Hancock makes millions and millions with his books and netflix series he could fund some expeditions for archeologists, cuz believe me, they would love to go to sites to dig up things, its the funding thats lacking.
this is also why ppl like hancock have to keep standing by their opinion (its just an opinion since there is no concrete evidence for most), cuz its the way he makes his money. so therefor, no matter how many scientist have debunked his theory (for example minuteman), he will stick to his viewpoint no matter what.
altho its definetly not good to call him a racist, i do get where it comes from. cuz it were the nazi's who came up with the theory that an advanced atlantis civilization build all these buildings including the pyramids (according to them they were an aryan society). whats kinda funny is that exactly the indiana jones movies show this, cuz against whom is indiana fighting in all those movies?
@joowsty and of course it would be awesome if we could get 1000x more funding and dig up the whole dessert and explore the whole ocean
@@joowsty but it's a pointless statement since all supremacist groups will claim responsibility for the greatness of humanity
First time on your channel and I already love it. Thanks for the effort and content man :D
You’re welcome, glad to have you dude
I feel bad for Flint with the whole not having a dad thing and all. That sucks.
First point, him referring to his dad in this day and age is not a minus its a plus. Anyone who loves and admired their father has love in their heart. Two, he did a very good job as showing Grahams greatest fault. Graham argues that because we have not found evidence that it doesn't exist than it must. Flint argues basically that the lack of evidence to prove something is not proof that it is out there to be found. it was a great debate and both men did a good job. I think Graham was a bit boomerish when it came to blaming Flint over manipulation of online comments.
Exactly!!!
Flint is the one who was mad at Graham because people on twitter mocked him lol. thats boomeristic.
@@jordanalexander1592 no, graham brought it up first. Even Joe called him on it. Flint did it as defense which he shouldn’t have.
@@Littlemilkjug533 I think he should have considering the claim he was makin, lets analyze his claim, "Graham's uncritical regurgitation of theories based on racism, leads to attraction and promotion of racist ideals", ergo need to look at the opinions of fans of Graham Hancock, it is very logically cogent.
@@ASH-su6nb graham is probably not racist, I don’t know because I don’t know him. There is evidence that he is so we must assume innocence. However, Atlantis has in the past been used to say that it must have been a lost European empire that made these great things all over the world because the primitive natives could not. That’s what flint was saying.
Everyone knows Quetzalcoatl is a busty blonde dragon.
I see you're a man of culture as well.
I thought she was a GF from disc one
I understood that reference.
She has a form, simlar to Chel's, from the animated movie, El Dorado. 😂
#r/Rule34
No I'm not I have red hair
Graham Hancock's Indian wife looks identical to Lieutenant Ohura from Star Trek. And you people think he's racist?
Hancock is not the first to challenge established archeology for entertainment purposes. The notion of a globalised prehistoric neolithic society lead by fair skinned hegemons has been previously explored in a television program called The Flintstones.
Aztecs weren't hunter-gatherers. They domesticated corn, tomato, squash, cocoa, etc. They had a sophisticated agricultural system that allowed them to grow crops on top of lakes.
Sure, and if they were part of some global civilisation, why weren't those crops exported around the world until the post-columbus era.. You'll never get Hancock to answer that question because it and his ideas are mutually exclusive.
Yea a good portion of the world were still practicing cannibalism including eroupe, to different degrees. before they came to the America's and got civilized
He said they developed from hunter-gathers. IE; they were hunter-gatheres and developed into the Aztecs as time went on.
Everyone was a hunter-gatherer at some point until they weren't.
NO! The aliens gave them the crops. Its so obvious, what is wrong with you?
The ironic part of Graham Hancock saying that the archeologists are dependent on their narratives not being replaced, because that would alter the whole science and their liveyhood, when that is the same case for Hancock. If his unfounded stories are met critque he knows, that will make his own booksales and career stop.
Unfortunately I don't think it would people always want to think they are superior in some way and remarkably its always the mediocre that cling to it
its also ridiculous to say historians, archeologists and scientists in general are fighting tooth and nail to protect their narrative when in reality it really doesnt take much research to realize they constantly change their narrative according to new discoveries.
Of course new theories are going to be challenged. But if they're solidly backed up they will prevail. Hancock has zero evidence to back his claims.
Archeologists change naratives according to new evidence all the time. Look at Gobekli Tepe for example. First they thought it was hunter gatherers coming together for a ritual or something now they find a whole city with dwellings and it looks like a more permanent residence. They even did rebuild stuff, sometimes.
@@tobiastho9639 exactly, they're also the ones that found the new structures in the amazon and are basically saying this changes everything. What does Hancock say? Well it automatically must be an ancient global protocivilization that were built by the same society as gobekli tepe.
Graham has way more to lose if his ideas are proven false.
“Broke the record for the most times anyone has changed spectacles in a single episode of JRE“ proceeds to play 40 seconds of spectacle changing 😂😂 this had me spitting out my coffee.
So these people are making fun of a legit archeologist instead of the looney pseudoscientist?
"The one guy who has most influenced me on (subject X) doesn't know dick about (subject X)" is pretty much its own Rogan subgenre at this point
JRE in a nutshell 😅🥶
bulletproof coffee
Im reminded of an old OnA clip of rogan telling a woman who called in who was very educated about monkies and Joe was telling her "shut up stupid" just cuz he read a bunch of stuff about primates online and he felt on par with her.
@@justinanderson8356 its the bondo ape and joe still believes it to this day even though it was widely debunked at the time he first read about it. His evidence was that he saw an article about it on CNN. They were just a fat already discovered subspecies of common chimpanzees. They were thought to be some kind of gorilla hybrid because of a singular deformed skull found and also many fake stories that they were wildly aggressive, howled at the Moon, were immune to poison, and nested on the ground. They were in fact not aggressive to humans nor did they howl and only nested on the ground cause they were too fat/well fed in this region.
@@justinanderson8356 Bro, Joe is most definitely one of the foremost primate researchers in the world, let’s be honest
Diddle instantly became a JRE legend
Did he
@@TriStar44 yea imo he made graham look like a fool. And he’s like a cartoon character lol I really enjoyed him.
@@TriStar44his presentation was well done
I like Gram but Dibble was a way more interesting guest especially when he starts talking about archeology.
100% agreed
Flint Dibble is the cousin of Muscle Man from Regular Show, change my mind:
“I’d rather read a book than watch it.” So bro why did you re watch it rather than read a book. Lmao
So he was better informed when making this video ????
Hancock's documentary is same as ancient aliens, he just says it was done by ancient civilization instead of aliens..
Which somehow makes it even more grotesque because it’s a never ending tale of the chicken and the egg story. Ok an advanced ancient civilization taught everyone everything… but who taught those guys all of this ? My bet is an even more advanced and ancient lost civilization.
@@NecronomThe4th okay. I see that, but who taught THOSE guys?
I hate how much people hold up these debates. Graham Hancock is a cool dude but he’s also completely insane haha just because this dibble dude is a bad debater does not mean that graham is right. He’s just more charismatic and is a better communicator.
You guys are ignorant asf 😂
@@NecronomThe4thalbino people
How you could summarize this without noting Hancock’s best evidence was blurry photos that his wife took is impressively braindead
Definitely didn't expect podcast cringe to side with Graham here lol
@@DailyShit. all the most successful people kiss old men, Gary V did it so it’s good enough for me
@@DailyShit. He wasn't kissing him, him was sucking the last remnants of credibility from a dying man to make his own.
@@CMike44 "He's probably more than likely full of shit"
@@StuAusNatives do have an incredibly hard time growing facial hair in North America, not sure about South but wouldn't be surprised if it was the same.
Take a shot everytime he says dad
I asked the ancestors for a breakdown of this interview. Thank you.
Graham's been coming on Joe Rogan so long that Joe had hair when it started. Yes, I worded it that way on purpose.
What about Joes needs?
😂
Does semen cause hair loss?
@@calhollinot if you swallow it 😂
@@DGillian6406 heyyyy don’t tell that to my balding wife!
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You made a mistake at 13:11. The natives in Mexico were not hunter gatherers and no archeologists thinks that. The farmed many crops, and domesticated corn.
Hell, they had pyramids. Hunter gatherers wouldn't build structures like that.
First time watching, good research, I like how you formed this review, noice one 🤜🤛👌
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for dropping by
Just for everyone’s info; Flint Dribble is a legend in the world of Warcraft.
Is that where he does his work? The world of Warcraft?
Lolol if we don’t listen to him it might be the end of the world… of warcraft
That’s why I’ve never heard of him. He’s a loser. Ig im a loser for commenting this on a CZcams video but I’m just not a loser that plays wow lol
I believe it 😂
Drop the the, it’s cleaner.
That dude was changing his glasses when he wasn’t even looking at or reading anything. He was just flapping his gums. It’s like a nervous tick or something.
he has glasses for far away, close up, and normal ones and couldn't keep up with which ones were which lol
Flapping his gums ? Sure😂 Tell me you support mainstream archeology. Without saying it😂
@@bozbozman1575 nobody said that. But this guy makes everyone outside of the mainstream field look bad.
@@bozbozman1575why the fuck wouldn't you support "mainstream" archeology do you also think the earth's flat?
this was HILARIOUS sorry I am going to write to respect elders and he needs glasses for different distances, BUT IT WAS HILARIOUS
“And yes that’s actually his real name”😂
Why can't they both be right? Taking Technology or Knowledge to another people can also lead to them innovating on your Tech or gaining more knowledge from the knowledge you gave them.
I know Flint is goofily dressed and should have worn something more serious if he wanted to be taken seriously, regardless, this episode destroyed GH for me. He doesn’t carry himself well at all and I had much higher expectations from him.
I’m sure he gives a shit what you think
@@justinwinningham4892 what a random, pointless and low effort thing to still be replying to comments with in 2024. The whole point of this debate was a battle for what people think.
Graham lost imo.
@@justinwinningham4892do you just get online to say random shit
@@justinwinningham4892he should care what people think if he’s trying to convince them with his theories.
Can't wait to listen to the whole thing
You called the Aztecs Hunter gatherers lol
💯 Europeans should have no say when it comes to Native American culture.
@@Ocelotonatiuhnatives should have no say on anything civilized💯
@@Ocelotonatiuh We already did, its over 500 years ago.
@@anon2427 "rEaLiTy iS wHaT mY fEeLiNgS sAy iT iS. nATiVeS weRe cRuDe sAvaGeS aNd i rEfUse tO AcTuALLy bEcOme eDucAtEd oN tHiS."
@@michaelhaydenbellwoah cool it man, have a Pepsi.
Saying "..and yes that is his real name" ONCE is ENOUGH in my opinion.
this had me dying. you've earned a new subscriber.
Graham came to play the victim card here. He didn't prove any of his theories or claims and actually just came out looking like a common conspiracy theorist. Indiana Jones brought receipts and evidence and I actually liked his arguments.
It's funny how they are trying to deny attacking Hancock, while he's reading their open attack letter to netflix. lol.. It's hilarious.. "We're not attacking you, we're just trying to get you canceled'.. When your whole argument is that it's antizemect^c or hwyhiett supr3 mazizsst.. instead of addressing anything on the merrits.. You know what it is... and I'll be shocked if anyone can read thiz
He had no arguments.
Archeologists are all worked up because Hancock is getting tons of visibility for theorys that are the equivalent of flat earth.
I don't condone the smear campaign but can understand their disgust
@@matthewklein9225 No, it's the fact that they are all doing the same thing. They are looking at the same bones or carved stones that we can see--- ALL the rest is speculation.. all of it. on BOTH sides. These theories happen because there is simply not enough evidence to prove anything either way. An educated guess and a little deductive logic can go a long way, but it doesn't mean that it's correct at all. We just don't know... and that goes for most science. We just don't know how the brain actually works.. We just don't know exactly how sub atomic particles work.. We just don't know how big the universe actually is. We don't know sh^t
@@matthewklein9225 No, it's the fact that they are all doing the same thing. They are looking at the same bones or carved stones that we can see--- ALL the rest is speculation.. all of it. on BOTH sides. These theories happen because there is simply not enough evidence to prove anything either way. An educated guess and a little deductive logic can go a long way, but it doesn't mean that it's correct at all. We just don't know... and that goes for most science. We just don't know how the brain actually works.. We just don't know exactly how sub atomic particles work.. We just don't know how big the universe actually is. We don't know sh^t
Whats with the clickbait title G it was actually a pretty tame debate
Welcome to Podcast Cringe.
I’ve noticed a few clickbait titles now.
It's part and parcel
We need a podcast cringe cringe channel
Dude drops a whole new 30 minute video every time shulz opens his mouth, not surprised he milked the fuck out this one too
Before his first appearance on JRE, Graham was in a documentary with Joe called "DMT: The Spirit Molecule". I think his mind opened up so much, his brain fell out.
omg this comment is amazing. well done, jeff
In his own words he smoked a lot of weed at the time when he formed his lost civilization idea in the 90s. Like a lot.
That makes sense.
The lost civilisation story is in the bible. The tower of babel is a story of a civilisation that God destroyed.
@aarononeill3 and yet, the Bible never even mentions dinosaurs. Not exactly a reliable source.
Bro had according to him, a cannabis addiction.
What in the world did i stumble into. Thanks algorithm
Gotta love when Joe "moderates" these "debates". Just talk over and gang up on the person not going along with the narrative he wants to believe.
stay outta the kitchen if you cant take the heat
just say you didnt watch the whole podcast, lol.
@@jordanalexander1592 lmoa, i was going to say , he never ganged on on any one. Then realize the idiot didnt even watch the podcast.
@@jordanalexander1592 I mean the analysis is pretty accurate, Joe: "I mean that looks like human made" LOL
I appreciate how Joe called for a civilized discussion when it got too heated.
Holy Hancock. Dude keeps repeating the same liners he’s had since his first appearance on Rogan.
"If he turns out to be right ?" I'm sorry, what ?!? 🤣💀💀💀
Flint Dibble is literally the Mojo Jojo of Archaeology
Rogan was clearly sided with Hancock and totally falls for the "but it really looks like it" line of reasoning. Hancock brought zero evidence which actually challenged Dibble other then, "bUut hOw MuCh HaVE YoU LoOKed?"
Dibble changing Joes mind on the rock that looks like a pointed tip was a score in Dibbles favor.
have you seen the full podcast? i sensed the opposite, most of the time joe was realizing how much bs graham was really producing
flint came with a presentation filled with facts about the topic they agreed to discuss. graham came with a presentation filled with ways his feelings got hurt
The blurry pictures were more than enough proof in Graham’s mind. 😂
what evidence Dibble provided? all he had was a forced laugh...
"Did I tell you I have a DAD?"
I actually think it’s pretty cool that he’s so proud of his dad.
IKR, but be careful on this channel; it has a suspicious number of Dibble fans who love posting crap about Hancock and getting tetchy when Dibble is insulted.
@@thomasthellamas9886 it's not a bad thing, it's just hilarious 😂
12:50 Rogan never said to not read comments. He said don't listen to a hate mob. Its a little disingenuous to equate those 2 things.
How about a podcast series in which the two and/or more individuals sat down and ironed out each point? This is interesting stuff.
Flint Dibble sounds like a distant cousin to Dale Gribble
Half of the West can't relate to respecting their dad😅😅😅
True. That's Flint's redeeming quality.
Rogan has painted himself in a corner that he has to now defend Graham, a man he helped make famous, against the elite scholars and leading science in multiple fields of research. Not just archeology. Embarrassing.
There’s a part maybe 45 minutes in maybe an hour in that graham starts talking out of his ass and it’s obvious and Joe just looks at him like he looks at Bert
The credibility of academia is gone. It's the WNBA of society
Even Rogan slowly realized that Graham’s ideas are total nonsense.
Here I was thinking Dibble was the uneducated doughnut. Turns out it was Graham all along.
Why is everyone turning on Graham? An advanced ancient civilization DID exist... it's been written about for thousands of years.
U guys rlly gonna pretend this little dork has a clue what he's talking about?
It's nice to hear someone give someone credit for all the important findings of the world. His dad
Maybe if your dad plays helldivers with you, you could shout him out.
Joe saying obfuscate definitely shows he didn't smoke at all before going into that interview. Tripped up Dibble, and yes that's actually his real name.
You can't deny dibbles love for his father. I actually became a fan of this guy. Can't help but think he looks like Dwight from the office. 😂
Dwight was the best character
Well, wearing his dad’s suit is one way to show that.
This dude sucks so much and you're a fan 😂😂😂
Dwight and mose love child
You must be intelligent