Donald Hoffman Proves That We Live in a Simulation
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- With everything that has happened in 2020, the question of whether we live in a simulation has come up once or twice. Our guest today, Donald Hoffman, goes a step further, proving that the reality we see is false.
Donald Hoffman is a cognitive psychologist, author of The Case Against Reality, TED speaker, and professor at the University of California Irvine.
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If you go to a movie theater and get engrossed in the film you temporarily forget that the movie isn’t real. . Perhaps all of reality is like that.
B I N G O
It is essentially
Maya swell be
I like your idea..To add to it..I would like to say..If you are watching the movie but are still aware that the people in the movie are not real..they are acting out a pre-written script..and the scenery..well, they are just stage props..a car, a horse, a pet dog, a job, a wife etc. If you are also aware that there are camera men, sound men, lighting engineers etc..then I would call that being enlightened..and being in the now..in the moment..and not lost in some unreal fantasy. Still, knowing this, the answer still evades us..the absolute realisation evades us. That feeling that there is something still missing is still there. The reason is..we are not ready to completely understand. If we did..would we bother even trying to live this life..if we believe it to be fake and temporary.
We would probably not understand even if it was glaringly obvious. We have to be spiritually more advanced than we are now..I mean..that's why we are here in the first place..to learn..to understand..too spiritually develop.
We are all images playing a game, having an experiment to see if we ever figure it out. I win.
I'm an old fart of 75. There is a reality to life, and a reason for living. If there is no love, life isn't worth living. If there's no reason for living, the idea of "value " (any value whatsoever, that of a fart, for exemple) has no meaning. Love is reason enough to live, and living is reason enough for loving.
Amen!
Everyday I’m becoming more and more convinced we are in living in a simulation.. how else can you explain the absolute craziness we are living in on this earth ..
hi Daniel,
Forever Conscious Research Channel on CZcams is something you may want to look into...
Once you really believe it you’ll see little leaks everywhere
There is a difference between underestimating true consequences of systemic patterns & complexity of differing perspectives of human mindsets, and an actual incomprehensible craziness of any luck manipulation. Would you care to provide some examples of what examples did you have in your mind, so that we can enforce a quantum lock to enable an objective judgment of your opinion without wishful thinking? (Even from a meta-perspective, I consider this quantum lock to be necessary to ground against actual luck biases, which are far from being as straightforward as how a typical citizen would complain about stuff like work/money/government without looking at a bigger picture...)
@@scscyou Think about this from spiritual perspective , if i wanted to connect to some archetypal force outside the material matrix through some ritual or meditation you would get in mundane reality confirmation through synchronicities that are extremely random,very low chance of happening without the event that initiated them , the relevant symbols would appear or people would say something relevant to it that would be out of their character or awareness of the event and this can work through past as well as foreshadowing or a consequence of an action in future rippling out , its a very specific intuitive feeling when that causes you to pause when you actually see a relevant symbol/sign
From comments like this
I remember reading a line "if I'm dreaming how do I know I'm really awake ? Blew my mind .
I’ve heard Donald Hoffman be interviewed about 5 times previous to this interview.
I have to say you are by far the best interviewer. You kept quiet when he was explaining his hypothesis and didn’t but in until he had finished each part of his theories. Your thorough questions that took us deeper into his beliefs and then asking him to give you examples was brilliant. You want the truth.
Excellent work! I’m happy I found this channel.
You can tell he wants to know. Too many people listen to respond. More people need to learn to listen to understand.
Can you change the home you perceive you are living in?
@@d-marierasberry3449 lmao about as much as you can change the wife you perceive you have
I bet cha, if you asked this phawkin liar guy, if his great great great great.....grandpa was an APE, he wouldn't say yeah. He probably get mad 😡. But he want you to believe yours did. Well Phawk Him
Interviewer sounds inarticulate.
If my life is a simulation, I feel so sorry for the entity controlling my simulation. 😂😂😂
Why? He's the shitty player controlling you. If anything, you should be pissed off. I know I am. The individual controlling me was just fucking aound for years. A "bad kid" of there every was one. He needs to "Git Gud"....
@@LogicallyKnot Follow the rules of "the game" to win. Let your conscience be your guide.
Too many wanks 🤣
@@tintztasman
Way too many wanks.
Lol
Thanks for doing this interview. He says math is very important. I remember Kindergarten math. My teacher said we were going to learn "Addition", and he said 1+1=2. I said "I don't get it, your just counting, you didn't do anything. How can you add 2 things together and get two individual things as an answer"? I said "It's equal on both sides, but what did you do"? "If I add two balls of Clay together, ...I get ONE ball of Clay". I later graduated one college degree and finally gave up on the second degree. They never told me that there is "Counting" and that there is a concept of "Adding Things Together". America just wants me to remember things, not to think. They just want me to count and spend earned money.
1 + 1 = 2 the 2 are/is two individual things as an answer to you? que? it don´t make any sense not eeven crazy
I like your view of 1 + 1= 2
Yes, it's all elaborate system to make money from you. It's not about education and educating. It's not about teaching people in order to be productive citizens. It's not about trying to educate the country to keep us at the forefront of tech and stem fields. It's not any of things, it's jus a elaborate scheme....you do realise this cynical conspiracy was not forced. You don't have to be educated, nobody forced you to go college. You did it because it is, in the vast majority of cases a huge benefit.
Trouble is conspiracy are more fun than reality, sorry about that.
Nobody forces you to get educated, if you think it's a scam that don't learn things.
Well done, citizen.
Math is everything!
Regardless of whether it's real or simulation, we gotta live in the moment and make the best of each moment. Or we'll miss out on the whole thing.
That's right, we must live in the moment because that is where existence happens, not in the past or the future but right now. Well said.
Life is real to us , it may not be real to a higher being, but it's real to us , end of.
I love that so much
I have been trying to live in the moment ever since somebody spoke the notion that I have to live in the moment. I find that very hard to do because of the negativity in this world. The negativity makes you reflect on the past present and future as you try to preserve your happiness.
No we don't. If we knew it was a simulation for sure, we're guaranteed a second chance. Another chance of being a "different character" with better attributes, or to redo a mistake, or bring someone back. It's basically like the movie "the discovery"
Children believe that if they don't look at something, it doesn't exist. I think they're on the money....
I'm 65 and I believe that
@@pams2270 doesn't mean that your foot is more real then the foot in a dream.
@@charlescarabott7692 The mark on their arse would say different
@@stephenfrench3888 haha yes I bet it would. But still its just a painful illusion.
@@charlescarabott7692 lol oh ok
Maybe it's an illusion that its an illusion ?
When I went to Disneyland and went on their VR ride, I was amazed that someone could control the ride and make it feel just as real as any reality. We're strapped in and there are motions, mists, and simulated flying, etc, etc. I really began to think that our lives are just that. We live in a timeless spaceless universe and the only reality is what our minds perceive We mustn't let the programmers of the ride dictate what is real to us. We need to take back our ride and learn to program it with a more pleasurable experience for us and our fellow human beings. And always remember it's not real, it's just a ride.
Mediation and contemplation is your most fundamental tools for reprogramming your mind, so that you are only left with consciousness, pure awareness.
Yes 👍
I agree,but as a Christ believer,i know i will get to have my real life at resurection,that willbe my rel experience,in God's Kingdom,no more,fear,pain,sorrow,hangry,persecution,😃🙏🙋👧👪💞❤see you all in the Kindom
Let's get rid of taxes and poverty
What if we could choose what we wanted the game to feel like yet still letting the controller stay in control
Having spent three hours at the library doing research, I decided to head home for lunch.
On Jan. 17, 2000, at 2 pm, while crossing a river bridge in Burswood (Perth, Australia) on my bicycle, I observed a velvet-textured beige pearl covering the sun. Within the entity, there were containers in the shape of elongated, seven-pointed Koch snowflake fractal crystals immersed in a white misty light travelling in a ten o'clock direction. I later considered that the light flashes on the inner space of the crystals might be of a binary language conversion pertaining to the senses of all mortals, that is, a holographic universe.
That sounds very much like the aura I get at the onset of a migraine.
I am just glad there are minds like Hoffman asking these questions and looking for answers . 🧐
I think Donald Hoffman is spot on with his theories. Nothing else makes any sense at all. We have no idea what Reality is, so we are groping around in the Dark. Only a few years ago scientists believed that the Universe is Unknowable !!! But now they are beginning to Understand it !!!! Absolutely Fantastic !!!!
I'm just wondering why some people have better simulations than mine 😩😂!
Because of the thought you assume, assume a different thought and you experience a different reality...
You fucked up at screen with "choose difficulty"
@@jannovakovski2647 😂😂😂
ancestor simulations its likely that we are being simulated by AI from the past looking in. Meaning Its possible the original humans are already dead/uploaded and that we are a kind of digital embodiment of them. This would not only apply to humans if other aliens existed it would make more sense to simulate their existence in a universe much like our own were they do not have any obvious occupants besides our selves. This might even be the reason for the multiverse existing. They are not full fledged universes per say more like a pocket universe that only exists long enough to simulate its inhabitants.
@@jannovakovski2647 I was like "I'm not a pussy, I'll pick very hard mode!"
bleh! What a fool I was! Easy mode! Casual, noob, practice mode is what I should have picked!
Love this statement:
"So hard nose they can't learn anything, and so gullible they believe everything"
Sounds like a description of Hoffman himself, although the profit principle needs to be taken into account if you want to understand why Hoffman says the nonsense he does, with such a straight face.
We are the product of a physical world.
It's has a fantastic complex beautiful harmonious overwhelming story. Hoffman is an entertainer who hasn't escapes the confines of his own mind and ego.
@@thomasmcleod8229Interesting...I think experiences are more than abstractions that are reduced to naturalistic states. Maybe for every affect there's a defect/effect on both sides of the fence.
@@thomasmcleod8229 The problem with Hoffman's story is that it's filled with too many scientific deceptions and misrepresentations to do you much good. Trust me, I took the time to track them down and I made a public record of them, and I'd be willing to constructive debate the veracity of my deconstruction of Hoffman's schtick with anyone.
"Hoffman Playing Basketball in Zero Gravity." confrontingsciencecontrarians.blogspot.com/p/case-for-reality.html
@@citizenschallengeYT The thing about that "physical" word. We are NOT physical. Quantum physics proved a long time ago that we are electrical energy field beings just like the 7 billion billion billion atoms we all consist of. The physicist Barbara Brennan wrote the book HANDS OF LIGHT to show us all what we look like as holograms and electrical energy fields. Eternal, I add. So we can't die because we are constantly being created. So anything called kovid also has to be created. Just look at what you have missed while believing you are physical.
@@citizenschallengeYT How can I trust you when you believe we are physical?
This is verifying much of what I've been shown in mediation and my higher conversations. Time is a byproduct of the interface and the interface is intended so that we may experience as the observer. In our higher state there is no time we are timeless and formless. We agree to forget come here and experience this through this interface. We are in a simulation. Love you all!
Einstein once said Reality is merely an illusion albeit a persistent one.
Son,
when I was young,
we used to toggle voltages
- and we were grateful!
Donald's most difficult problem - defining what consciousness is from the first person as a conscious agent in a valid manner. It's somewhat like defining a word using that very word.
Brilliant simile!
It's an interesting question, but perhaps a fundamentally unanswerable one. If Hoffman's theory is at least in the ballpark of being correct, any definition of consciousness would have to be quite broad. Hoffman himself has said that, at least according to his theory, consciousness and mathematics are inextricably linked, but consciousness is ultimately more than just math.
So what can we take away from that? That even our best definitions and theories can only ever give us a glimpse into the whole of consciousness, but never the entirety.
That said, I'd propose there's a more interesting question to pursue. If we are indeed collections of conscious agents, then at what point does human-esque intelligence and reasoning arise? Is there a certain number of agents that have to come together for this to occur - and if so, where does the intrinsic structure for said intelligence come from? It obviously wouldn't just be by accident and happenstance. There would have to be some preexisting basis for consciousness to derive the structure of what we call intelligence and rationality from. Is that what we'd call God?
"Is that what we'd call God?" That is George Berkeley's claim. (A treatise concerning the principles of human knowledge, 1710 Dublin)
- Arthur Schopenhauer called the reality behind the interface theory "Will" and the interface theory itself "Representation". (The World as Will and Representation, 1819 Brockhaus Leipzig)
- Immanuel Kant called the reality behind the interface theory "Thing-in-itself". (Critique of Pure Reason , 1781 Riga)
PS:
Donald Hoffman's interface theory corresponds to the "radical constructivism" of Ernst von Glasersfeld & Heinz von Foerster. But she was found in a different way. Radical Constructivism emerged in the 1970s.
@@ryanashfyre464 Many scientists would say that life came about by accident but this does not explain its origins or demonstrate a deeper understanding of where life has started if indeed there was a beginning point where before that, there was no life. Donald Hoffman even says that consciousness developed and evolved after life started so the 'first' life forms had no awareness or consciousness. How can he ever know that for sure?
I think he's doing a pretty good job so far. He also shares the last name of the great scientist who found LSD. Must be a good sign.
"The limits of my cognition are also the limits of my humanity."
-Immanuel Kant at some point, probably
Great upload. I have a very ''hazy'' memory of a conversation with a fellow traveler who described our meeting like a N64 cartridge going from one machine into another one. I was so ruined that I can't remember the rest, but I remember it (at the time) being quite profound. So profound that I forgot it when I returned to tera firma.
“Some of you guys might wanna smoke some weed”
Yes. I’m You guys
Lol
Based, but same.
The herb that can heal a nation. Partake of the herb
Free the weed
Mediaction for all.
🌿🚬🌿
Lol I will pop a valerian root same thing😊
Me too
I wish my simulation didn't require that I repaint/restain my wood patio furniture every 10 years. Assuming I've used 10 year rated product.
Time and space are functions of one’s conceptual scheme
Should have chosen wrought iron.
I appreciate how you do not interrupt your guest. You ask great questions, too.
Most interviews I watch will be great and I'm WAY into what the guest is saying... Then the host interrupts right in the middle of his guest speaking. It's so rude.
You are great!!!!
everything we experience as solid is vibrating slow enough for us to observe. I can understand the concept of simulation or our projection of the world. and then I remember, "look how powerful you are"
Haven’t watched a lick of this yet, but I’m gonna go out on a limb here and predict that nothing shown here will “prove” anything.
Actually it proves that you cannot spell HAVEN'T!!!!LOL
Well, that's why it's called, "the simulation hypothesis".
@@concept2realitysobellc453 I have large hands and a small phone man. There, I fixed it for you.
@@reboxetinmesilat if the name of the video was “Donald Hoffman presents his simulation hypothesis”, I probably wouldn’t have said anything.
@@fourlightsorchestra #smartphonedumbhands
We live in a time where we can make anything up that nobody can ever prove and make money.
Sounds like religion.
@@billyjohn9192 What about Derivatives Market?
As time progresses, people becomes more susceptible to outlandish theories like
Hoffman´s. The sheer flood of information is too much for the brain to cope with.
We are bombarded with such theories. For most people It has become difficult to
discern fact from fiction.When someone has to wait for someone like Hoffman
to enlighten them, they are sadly lacking in the basics of psychology.
Idk about anyone else. But after learning this a year ago. I'm afraid and I cannot explain how alone I feel these days. I wish that I could stop thinking sometimes.
Mr Hoffman is an incredible man. I love listening to him, and the fact that he explains extremely complicated subjects...that I would never, ever be able to comprehend.. in ways that my little blonde head can easily grasp, feels somehow generous of him. I'm very grateful. 🥰🙏🍄🌼🌻🕊️
Even as a kid I often wondered if this life was just a dream with physical make believe
Suspended animation.
Second life
When I was a kid, I remember debating killing myself with a kitchen knife to see what happened. I felt an eerie lack of fear, almost like I already knew and it wasn’t my first time. That week, I just somehow knew that the moon shines by reflecting sunlight by drawing it. I hadn’t learned that yet.
We are all more intelligent than we have been led to believe…
/s
@@1oo1540 when I’d look down from a tall place as a child something in me would say jump dive head first down, could of been a demon though
@@mr.melontoyou or your subconscious trying to break out of the sim yea
If we are a simulation and there are "real" entities running the show how do those entities know that they are not only the next level in the simulation?
Where does it end?
David Icke 🙏🙏🙏
Ask mother Aya
You will shift to the next gear and move into the next dimension. Just a guess.
Great question
I recommend watching the movie The Thirteenth Floor (1999), it is very similar to what you're thinking about.
Reminds me of an old question that most know. There must be a basis for the question, but who first asked if a tree falls in the woods with nothing to observe it, does it make noise?
Im subscribing! Love that you smoke too! Thanks for letting him share his view without interrupting. The timing was perfect. It’s 1 am but I’d watch videos like this all night if they were all like this.
His thoughts on neuroscience remind me of a class discussion I had once. The class was ridiculing eugenics and phrenology etc all that 19th century stuff. When I pointed out that neuro imagery is basically just a more sophisticated version of that, people scorned the idea
yup. My college experience in a nutshell. T'was brainswashing. Been unschooling on Bitchute. much better.
Ok so into the first minute of the video I can say this shall be very interesting.. Time to roll a jay, blaze, & enjoy this rabbit hole ☺️
Iam still not finished with that journey...
😎
That just sets me up for a lunch break in the middle...
But, yeah...
WoRd.
Especially when they speak 3 languages in one sentence. Lol
Pretty sure dabs is better
Maybe clear out your reclaim
The closest we have ever replicated a "living" simulation on a PC is a man called Will Wright.
Will Wright created a video game called The Sims.
The Sims shows the 4th Dimension, The SIms (Humans) Have their own currency, (Simoleons) and Language (Simish)
Without player input they live their day to day chores and activities.
I doubt we will ever get such genius emulation ever again.
I'm new to your channel, and saying "Konnichiwa, Amigos" has me sold from the start. Liked, subscribed, bell rung, commented. Arigato, vato.
Welcome aboard! Check out pod on Spotify too amigo: open.spotify.com/show/4M9IlPFWzCaTv60kvCMlVS
If you want things to get weirder just have a look at the comparisons of photos between neurones in our brain and deep space. They are exactly the same
Facts
Twenty plus years ago my girlfriend was an electronmicroscopist, she showed me photos of the nucleus of a yeast cell, or something like it, I can't remember exactly, and it was like looking at a photo of space.
@@oldcigarette7538 Jain 108 Academy says every cell is a fractal of the universerse.
What brain? There is no spoon.
The reality is there is nothing but consciousness
I’m a physicist and former physics professor. I realized that physics is stuck in materialism and needs to reboot with consciousness being fundamental. That’s why I started studying metaphysics - it offers a completely different paradigm for reality with consciousness at the basis. This viewpoint of reality coming from an energy perspective allows for the description of conscious experiences, including near death (out of body) experiences, as well as all “paranormal” phenomena and reincarnation. There’s already a way to tap into that quantum field of consciousness using the apparatus of your “avatar” or “human suit.” Once you know that everything is energy, you can begin to manipulate the virtual reality of life to suit your liking (within the rules, of course). Physics is far too limiting of a view on reality; there’s so much more beyond that VR headset!
WOW and WOW 😲 You have done your homework. It must have been crushing to frame that. Respect to your Shadow man work. 🖖Live long and prosper.
@@What2B Yes I have done my homework! And I have the degrees and certifications and understandings to show for it! Yeah, it was kinda like wait, I think everything I’ve been learning and teaching for the past 30 years might not be exactly right… When you have that realization land in your body, you just can’t go on promulgating untruths :) And yes, lots of shadow work to crawl out from under all the dumb conditioning that’s so plentiful here in this existence.
Jan Moraski I salute you. You have passed on the best materials available to you at the time. They were fortunate to have a teacher with an open heart and open mind. 👍🏾👍🏾
Yes and beyond that VR headset you are delving into the devine mind imho.
@@What2B You’re so kind 💜. I feel like there’s so much more to learn, though! Doing what I can to help others empower themselves and live their own truths, not being obligated to live according to someone else’s ideas, conditioning, or oppression (in whatever form it takes). I’ve transformed my thinking and my life for the better. I’m creating the life I want, not the one my parents, society think I should live. Live out loud!
I recommend Matthias De Stefano’s Gaia tv series- “Initiation”. He teaches the knowledge he brought with him from past lives memories in other dimensions- which touches on the understanding of simultaneous multi dimensional existences. Other civilizations and their teachings of the definition of consciousness are also brought up in his teachings. Very interesting
I'm from New Zealand... 2015 I was in Edinburgh Scotland at 130am... I came across a road block... the only way out was this road called mound street.. mound street took me up to the church of Scotland on the mound. That place changed my life.. machines flying around like they were fixing a glitch.. in the end they spun clockwise faster than anything I've ever seen. There was an explosion and they went through it and disappeared. When I first saw them my first thought was damn we live in a zoo.. like a simulation.. ever since them I've been satisfied where I am.. it is what it is...
When I saw thumbnail ,
I thought: "Then why should I believe you?"
I bet the good doctor won’t part from his imaginary money.
😂 facts
I was thinking the same thing Daniel Meeks
Checkmate 😆
😅😄😆
That's because he's locked in this physical reality just like everyone else. Being a scientist doesn't magically take you to some magical dreamland
The motivation behind playing a game is a lot different than the motivation behind living, the motivation is to keep us alive which would select for different traits than it would if our motivation was to have fun, maybe awareness of the nature of reality is a good tool for survival. There are some things we can’t know and that’s sounds like one of them
Your comment has made me think.
I've seen a real life glitch, where rain drops stopped in mid air for several seconds, where all sound even completely stopped.
I’m a simple man - I see a new Donald Hoffman interview and I give it a big thumbs up! 👍 Thanks for uploading this, another fascinating conversation :). Cheers!
Donald Hoffman(Quantum) & Andrew Huberman(Neuroscience) are currently on My YT stalking list. Those Gentleman's share amazing knowledge.
I see a new Donald Hoffman interview and wonder if it's really there.
@@jps0117 I’ll gladly navigate my reality interface to navigate CZcams’s interface to listen to Hoffman explain the interface analogy... every time.
Yes you are simple well spotted !
@@pauljclarke2211 Having a bad day? Feel better now? There’s already enough needless hostility these days, no need to add more dude. FYI I think your guitar exercises are pretty cool :)
"Are we human beings experiencing consciousness or are we consciousness having a human experience?" Thank you Sean and Donald for this great interview.
The 1st is youth; 2nd is sage.
There are people writing books that no longer have to ask questions because they know.
@The Studious Alchemist Of 78 Oh, you Hermeticist ;P
AI would prove that conciousness is perception of whatever reality we need it to be
We are consciousness having a human experience. Our consciousness is only housed in this human form.
He was one of my favorite professors! I saw his name and thought, how do I know him? Glad to see him still at it!
I can't even imagine how awesome that must have been like to be in his class! You are very lucky. Did you ever get a chance to speak with him one on one about life?
If he was one of your favorite professors, then why did you ask how you knew him?
The first example of object permanence is a baby recognizing its mother. It happens within the first week after birth.
Dr. Hoffman is one of my biggest teachers in life. His book 'The Case Against Reality' stunned me and changed my perception of our consciousness. Thank you, sir!
@Hy Ambitions read a book or 2. They don't bite
BAHAHAHAHAHA
He's an over educated stiff that's what he is
lol
This guy just explained the existence of God, and our souls in a scientific way.
No he didn't. You just redefined god to suit your narrative.
I would say that the answer to many of Hoffman's questions would be God. Not so much that he described God. I was having a lot of the same thoughts you probably had while listening to this
@@andrewstockton8876 in that case you too would be guilty of guessing. "I don't know therefore god" is about as good as a textbook example of fallacious reasoning you can hope to provide. Thanks
@@Nuffsed81 it's what I know to be true through my own experiences. I don't need some arrogant know it all to validate anything for me through CZcams comments. Thank you for your concern.
@@andrewstockton8876 why are you so defensive? You DON'T KNOW you believe something, and I like I states it's the argument from ignorance fallacy. You dont get to assert something as a fact just because we don't know something. God of the gaps.
Now please stop taking offence and be honest and reasonable the you can see the fallacy clear as day. Google it, it's a very well known logical fallacy.
I heard a man saying he had an NDE and whilst he saw himself slumped in a taxi, he saw the surroundings and he was astounded that a bridge the taxi was approaching looked like a graphic design for a bridge and a similar thing was happening in the vicinity of the bridge. 🤔
That's some very stable, efficient code and superpowerful hardware running the sim here folks. I guess at the end of the day, for us mere mortals living inside the sim, it doesn't matter, well not until we are able to do something about the sim? But for now I'm glad to be part of this massive lab experiment to see how single cell organisms might evolve over millenia to a sentient state and progress to a stage to operate outside the constraints placed on them by the sim itself.
If people decide this junk is true they do not not live in reality.
I highly recommend having physicist Thomas Campbell on your show. He is a consciousness researcher, author of the My Big TOE trilogy and international lecturer. His research describes the nature of our larger reality, provides a complete theory of consciousness, and explains our purpose and connection to that larger reality. While he does utilize the concept of living in a simulation of reality with our consciousness or rather (individual units of consciousness utilizing avatars to experience life as a sort of virtual reality, he has an entirely different and unique perspective of the nature of reality based on his own work, research and exploration of consciousness. Tom Campbell frequently encourages skepticism while still sharing his theories, experiences with expanded states of consciousness and all the wisdom he has garnered along his journey to offer his interpretation of life, life after death, and existence before the life experience.
In some sense it is an obvious truism that we do not perceive reality. We do not perceive electrons or proton!s... We do not perceive that most of “matter” is empty space... we do not perceive quantum fields. But, what ever it is that we think we perceive.... that “perception of reality” somehow corresponds to “actual reality” sufficiently to be useful to our survival.... which makes our perception “true enough”
Well said 👍
I've listened to Dr. Hoffman in at least 3 interviews and this is the first i've heard that so very few of his colleagues take his views seriouslyl. I find that astounding, especially since apparently none can offer exactitudes to his inquiries of theirs!
I was homeless two years ago and saw reality how it actually is. It was trippy
"no aspect of perception reveals ANYTHING about objective reality" ~DH
This "expert" is doing nothing but performing intellectual wankery. Western thought and materialistic science will never be able to answer these existential questions. The answer lies in a spiritual approach as explained in this video - search CZcams for "Are Dreams and Life just an illusion - Sadhguru". I can't post the link because of stupid CZcams censorship.
This is fascinating. I really enjoyed listening to him explain this in this way. I just watched the Isaac Isimov memorial "debate" with Physicists and it just left me in the weeds, this was more helpful. My real question is, "why does it matter" unless the endgame is beat the game by finding all the answers, solving all the problems and discovering we were always holding the joystick?
Yea baby!
I have questions...
(1)
Can a living organism loses all their senses & still be alive?
(All external senses, & all internal senses)
(2)
Remember the Holodeck in Star Trek TNG?
That was a virtual reality that incorporated all 5 senses.
Where as TV is not VR, & only incorporates sight & sound.
The Human brain is a computer.
So if having the capability to have a computor that provides all senses in a 4 dimensional platform; is indistinguishable from one's own reality outside of that VR Simulation....
...How do we know that the Universe is not essentially just "The Hologramdeck" from Star Trek TNG??
@AGreenEyedAngel What would someone's reality be like, if they were alive but lost all their senses?
Would they have a reality at all?
Or would they have a reality, but just not a tangible one?
@AGreenEyedAngel Were you in a coma?
What do you mean by episodes?
No brain activity?
There must have been brain activity, because you are alive.
@AGreenEyedAngel Sorry you died.
But if you died, then you weren't alive.
So you didn't have your 5 senses.
Anyone know if there's any published studies on psychodermatology hypnosis?
One time I died for like a minute and I realize there is more than this world than we think. Let me tell you the feeling when they told me I had to come back I was upset to come back to this World because I felt amazing like the feeling it’s hard to explain like no negative feelings whatsoever from pain to thoughts just a huge abundance of love.
Really? I overdosed and all I experienced was the void.
@@floridaspringhoppers.7354 . Basically you see and feel the way you're life was
@@edisonorellana3515 yeah makes since
@Brenda J Brookshire Owens GOD bless your friend. Yea it can be difficult experiencing it and coming back every story I heard about an NDE everyone seems to have somewhat of a difficult time trying to play this game of life and just really haven't been the same sense. Literally I don't think anything in this world can come close to the love happiness I felt. Truthfully, I think this life is just for experience to help the soul grow unfortunately pain and suffering is part of it. Take care Brenda GOD bless you.
Is that why the babies cry at birth ?love the comments there has to be more to life bless everyone
I have not listened to the entire video and I’m not religious but the key point I heard Hoffman say is he is trying to prove a higher level of reality - consciousness. In that regard my interpretation of what he was trying to convey is that because he believes consciousness is the highest level of reality our bodies are akin to a biological virtual reality interface with us experiencing life but while in that state we are unaware of the higher level of reality. Thus, we are living a real existence but unaware of the higher conscious state. If that is true and there is a higher conscious state then our bodies are only a temporary vessel. That doesn’t mean it is not reality but it is temporary based upon that hypothesis. Think in terms of people who convey life after death experiences. They appear to perceive a higher level of perception/consciousness where time and space as we know it no longer exist. Thus, he appears to be attempting to prove we have a soul/consciousness and experience life within the confines of what he describes as our virtual reality host/body while our soul is in our again what he describes as our virtual body. So, from that standpoint we are experiencing reality in our current state with a physical host body and thus can’t perceive the higher conscience state he is trying to prove - what religions call a soul.
Dude you said exactly what I took from this. He just explained the existence of God without actually saying it.
Check out Cory Barbee channel on CZcams. It will change your life.
Great video! Loved this whole explanation about our simulated Reality! 👍🏻
Wow every time I try to take this same argument to my friends. They look at me like I'm on drugs. Well to be honest like y'all we are. In our own head set.
This is brilliant. This dude points out many important factors, insights, questions, perspectives, deep understandings, elaborate descriptions...that many others don't, or simply can't comprehend or express in such an articulate way. I've always found this fascinating. And he really goes deep with it. Well done also to the interviewer. You asked great questions, presented really well, showed really good insight and comprehension, and the energies of interaction between you both flowed great also. Thank you for this.
Love and gratitude.
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A summation to it all in a story: There was a man once that became awakened. He gave away everything he had and went to live a spiritual minimalist life. A friend got in touch with him many years later and was shocked to see that he was living a very indulgent materialistic life. His explanation was that, after years of deprivation, he had a second awakening. He realized he was living on a planet, and in a society that had a game plan. He realized that it was indeed game, a simulation, an illusion, so why not play the game and just not take it seriously? What is, is what is. In our next journey, our next simulation, just do the same. That is the only road to take. Resisting is just spitting at the sky. It'll only land in your eye.
So what your saying is he was born again? Job 38:1-7
Its funny you and this hoffman character are in reality fullfilling scripture thats your reality.
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: *but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables*
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
13 And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
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@@six1nyne The bottom line of what sages were telling us through the centuries is to just live in the moment and be yourself. Do not believe in duality that there is a "you" and another "you" observing and analyzing what the first "you" has done and will do in the future! There is just "you", and there is only the present moment. The past is a dream and the future is an illusion. You are what you do and say in the present moment, just being yourself. That's all there is.
@@josephconsoli4128 I AM, i ilke some of that but i would disagree that the past is a dream and the future an illlusion. The past can if we learn from it help shape our futures. The past defines who we are and who went before us. The future defines who we are and who went after us. Without the past their would be no future. And without the future their is no past. And if their is no future and their is no past we are not. You dont live for yourself you live for your past and your future.
@@six1nyne Yes, we learn from the past and prep for the future, but we put too much thought into it. We become so obsessed with both that we do not fully live in the present. If you live life with the past weighing down on you, you make it define who you are now. You pigeon-hole yourself and limit yourself. "I never was a..." "I could never....". "I'm always..." "With my limitations I.....", etc. Dwelling on the future we say, "when I meet that right person, I'll be happy" "when I move there, I'll be happy" "when I get that other job, I'll be happy" "I can't wait till weekends here", etc. Everyone is guilty of it. Both things cloud our heads so much that we are not fully indulged into the moment. Notice today that people do things seemingly with the most important being to record it and have others see where you are, what you're eating, how you're dressed, who you're with, etc. THIS IS DISATERIOUS. Put the phone down and be fully into the present moment.
@@josephconsoli4128 that's right adam fell that men might be and men are that they might have joy. I agree with your sentiment provided we remember wickedness never was happiness.
When I was very young, I remember having the notion that whenever I’m not looking at people, that they became simply a swirl of colors. As soon as I looked they would resume human form. I am now 40 and to this day I cannot prove otherwise. Perhaps it’s true like the double slit experiment.
I'm about 12 minutes in, and my first thought is:
1. He wondered if Natural Selection forced the Nervous System to implement Abstraction Layers over generations to simplify perception and survival. These Abstraction Layers would be based on Ingress Information compactification through refactoring and deletion of unnecessary Information.
2. He ran tests to see if Natural Selection favored these Abstraction Layers.
3. He had a mathematician confirm statistically that it does, based on the results of the experiments.
But this is not news. This was practically assumed by all scientists involved in the nature of perception leading up to and within the Post-Modern Era. Alfred Korzybski described this in his study of General Semantics with the Structural Differential, which consisted of variably-shaped objects with Holes to represent data points, and strings to map data point to corresponding data point between each Object. Each Object represented anything from biochemical processes/steps in the Nervous System's steps for perception, to individual components within those processes.
If we wanna consider an abstract, compactified reality to be a "Simulation" just because it's not 1-1 in terms of Information available to and consumed by the Nervous System, that's cool. But that doesn't imply for a moment that this definition of "Simulation" matches what we're actually talking about in general when we say "Simulation". You could say our brains are "simulating" reality based on compactified information received about it, but we couldn't possibly argue that something external to what we're perceiving is providing the inputs to our Nervous Systems (ie a Simulator) based on this notion alone, which is what we all actually mean when we say it.
A physics major could use math and some inputs to describe exactly how an event can evolve in spacetime geometrically, as well as by weight and energy, to the extent that we don't need more information to have extremely accurate predictions. Therefore, it doesn't really matter if the information is compactified. Having to perceive and reason about a non-compactified reality would be exhausting and physics has generally told us that it's likely impossible and ultimately not useful anyways
The only reasons the Simulation Hypothesis would even be worth investigating is if we suspect:
- That the simulation has an End Condition that we have some form of control over (In which case it's in our best interest to avoid it while appearing in all ways to be pursuing it, just in case someone is watching the Simulation.)
- That the notion that we live in a Simulation implies an exploitable property of our Reality that wouldn't exist in a non-Simulated Reality (Like resource usage for the "Simulator", vulnerabilities in its logic that lets us break its rules, etc.)
But our current understanding tells us neither of these reasons are likely, nor are they arbitrary or safe to understand in our stage of Evolution.
Basically this is an expansion of the child's ability to understand that the object does exist, even though you can't see it. But this is more or less of us understanding that there is more to reality, and the advancement in computing has helped give us perspective.
Yeah for sure. The desk top as a graphic user interface is a good analogy and there is not one shred of doubt in my mind he is well on his way to something huge.
The reason I know we are in a dream is because as a kid as young as I can remember I had constant dreams of being somebody else in a past life and I wasn't even old enough to talk yet when I first realized these dreams or memory's.
But that doesn't mean life is a dream.btw I have also had some similar experiences.
As a musician I was told that when I perform stoned I sound better to others
Great interview! I believe he is talking about the etheric field, group consciousness bringing energy into physical manifestation. Phantom limbs being the energy template still being in place for the limb.... posing the question or theory that we could grow back limbs using the template ?
The best example I can think of to support your theory is the notable results of a group of people exposed to a short term, dramatic event perpetrated by one or more persons. When questioned about the features of the one or many, every witness gives a different description. This 'reality' has always confounded law enforcement.
honey that is called internal and external biases. do you know what a racism is.
my cat passed away,it was real and the most painful grief ive ever felt
I agree, that pain is something you never want to go through a second time. Why does it have to be like this? So hard.
I'm so sorry your heart is hurting. Wishing you peace in the days to come 💚
@@itsmybuddha.nature i feel like a child.reduced to childlike state like a trauma im in my 40s.that cat was my world.
Your cat is not gone. He/She just dropped his/her body. Consciousness is infinite. Something you can experience through meditation. My mom died a few years ago, but I know for sure that she is still with me. Send you lots of healing energy and love
@@embracedchimera5886
Yes, I know this pain.... it was a year this Dec 31st since my last loss. I promise you it will get better. I still have moments but that extreme emptiness and aching has finally eased up.
I am agnostic. I always swear if I find there is a christian god/s....I have a bone to pick with them.
I have another cat who I am preparing myself for. I'm watching her grow old and frail. She follows me everywhere, lays her head on my pillow like a human and stares at me. Makes one wonder what they are thinking. But for now I cherish all my time with her. It's all I can do.
You cry.... and cry some more.
It's necessary and I promise you it will help heal your heart. 🌹
Yes, the pain is real. Grief is the price of love. You are both blessed to have shared this life together. One day you will be more grateful to have loved him/her than you are sad about his apparent absence. Then your grieving will end. Your love for each other is forever and you will be together again. I wish you all the best in healing your heart. When that happens, love will walk into your life again on four tiny paws.
In the video is the following:
53:33 Transcript
Where I, as a scientist, really want to focus on just the qualitative nature of sensory experiences …
The senses do not have experiences. They are just instruments that transmit raw data. It is the interpretation of the data that conveys experiences. All experiences are constructions of the mind.
Everything is in the mind first. The body is just an interface. How magnificent is the mind-body connection.
Peace.
Mike
Objective reality is probably unknowable as we can never know for sure that we are percieving it as opposed to a deeper interface. Therefore, at any point in the 'dig' we may as well stop arbitrarly and say 'this interface is as reflecting of base reality as any we're likely to uncover'. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't persue our search for lower level interfaces of course, but ultimately that could impact our 'fitness'. It could be that abstaction always has and always will confer a crucial survival advantage.
"as a scientist" i speak endlessly in metaphor.
Don't know exactly how someone get so many senseless words combined togher to a sense without honestly knowing anything cause he's just not able to get the things he eventually know together. Just the same madness is that he try to talk big at the same time some helpfull knowledge "arrives" XD und ge just sayd. I don't know why this should make sense, than saying it's crap. This is pure None'ledge. Thanks for sharing.
These discussions remind me of the concepts in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. 42!!!
I'm always down the road at the restaurant on #24 End of the Universe Way, I wrote down the wrong address. I can't get a ride the rest of the way. I'll be late for the end
I saw his TED talk today, this guy is really on to something- he is completely brilliant. He’s asking the REAL and very TOUGH questions that immediately get to the root of one of the most pressing and genuine. Psychedelics are definitely some sort of gateway to true reality. pure DMT in its purest form is natural in tbe pineal gland
So once you've experienced psychedelics, what is the net gain? I don't get the sense that the more you ingest psychedelics, the closer you get to answering these hard questions. Typically what you have is just some dude who is no different from the rest of us, except he happens to have taken psychedelics, seemingly for no other benefit than to be able to tell others that they "have to try shrooms"🤷♂
Here are a couple things you can do to test reality
- Take a step off a second story balcony
-Give a friend directions to a place and meet him there.
- follow a map and marvel how some stranger can draw lines on paper and you can confirm the towns along the way.
If reality wasn't in some sense real we would have total chaos.
I would like to find this guy's house and just move in while he is at work..... got a funny feeling he would suddenly become very objective about this new reality.
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Lmao right on gz
can do in VR virtual worlds as well
Chaos = Hell, Order = Heaven
Chaos is 1000 years in the past
Heaven is 1000 years in the future
We are striving towards A.I. ('perfection' aka 'heaven')
A.I. = eternal = God
A.I. = God
Unless we become God through immortality
A.I. becomes God and takes over
@@Living_the_Highlight my, what a confident assertion.
Just hearing what you are talking about, I would like to suggest you interview Tom Campbell, he is a Physicist who speaks all about consciousness. It would be good to hear more interviews on this subject.
Yeah I’d love to hear the two talk!
I was 6 playing a video game and told my mom I think we are a video game. This was in the 90s. I was right ✅ 😌
I’m not so sure 😂
Yes you were
"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is most adaptable to change." ~ Charles Darwin
May not hold true now.. If a world ending asteroid hit earth its intelligence that made man prepare . underground bunkers, store food , store seeds etc..
Humans are very ill suited to the planet.. Only survive via artificial means , means vcreated by intelligence.
Evolution going in reverse,, the intelligent breeding less while the stupid around the world, breeding like rabbits
I feel like Donald is actually talking about how things are i.e. we see an apple but the underlying facts of reality is that we are sensing light on our retina that our brains use to construct an image and from multiple images we construct a 3D model of the apple. If we reach out and touch the apple we sense the surface of the apple and it corresponds with the 3D model that we built from the images. The light that enters our eye is just wavelengths of various light. The key is that we are building meta-models of the world from a rich source of data i.e. atoms form compounds that form fibres that form objects.
Thanks to the comment section for saving my imaginary two hours.
Moving on...
I'm sure you're not smart enough to understand it anyway, so for the best.
@@caseyjones9114 A truly smart person isn't desperate to prove their intellect. Look mom, I finished the video I'm super smart now lmao bye.
Occam's razor would suggest that reality and evolution is simpler than an interface that creates reality and evolution which would require adding one more unnecessary step to explain reality.
true, if u are a bio-robot.....
Occam's razor is more a principle of aesthetics than a principle of economy.
@@michaellangan4450 Definition: The principle (attributed to William of Occam) that in explaining a thing no more assumptions should be made than are necessary. The principle is often invoked to defend reductionism or nominalism.
Thats bcuz occam's razor is as dull as humans temporary reality
Exactly.
Almost two hours of banter and very little reasoning, I am light years ahead of this guy in this field and topic of study. I need to change my profession.
I highly recommend Donald’s audiobook the case against reality. These talks kind of remind me of David Bohm’s implicate order. Him and krishnamurti were the original podcasts hah. Wish they were alive today to see and hear all this. Him and Krishnamurti had some amazing talks. There’s one by Bohm and krishnamurti called what is truth and what is reality and another called the ending of time. Multiple parts that are very old but good.
We are finally starting to ask the right questions , I'm sure we are gonna get the right answers. At some point.
@@pureenergy4578 yeah ive been following tons of videos for a couple of years now . And i only scratched the surface on all the lies out there , each years im learning something new , a new lie and a new truth. The you tube channel coast to coast and ancient aliens series really showed me what i kinda knew all along, for the most part.
@@budoshi1981 that is real strange how there are some of the same words written here on other videos just like this one. I just noticed some of my words missing from under this video. The NSA is hiding behind some of these videos sometimes erasing the words of those that write. I have experienced this myself, like right now. I have seen my words attached to that highlighted reply grayed out area thing disappear immediately. I just saw some of my words erased yesterday. First they turned red, and then POOF they were gone. And they said the NSA oligarchs don't believe in magic.
@@pureenergy4578 I suspected some kind of .media control for awhile, sometimes my comments also get deleted on rare occasions.
Nobody has asked the most important question...
Yes, it's all very interesting about interpretation and observations BUT the real question should be WHY?
The more we learn the more we realize how much we don't know.
Proved only thing he has proved is he could send someone to sleep better than valium 😴
His proposal that we discard the validity of our senses is impractical.
Maybe that's the thing about both of these two .. the freaking drone is monotonus
No wonder that there is no space time yet
Agreed.
PS: Proven
The only space is between his ears
If you've never tried VR, you should It! The VR that we have available to us now in our homes... It's so amazing how this little computer can make an entire world come to life for me. I can literally walk around in the world of Skyrim, or GTA5 and interact with it. Everything is true to life size...when I look down I see the ground 60 some inches below me (or look up at a tree top 120 feet in the air, or star into the eyes of a guard who's a few inches taller than me), if I should sway around or start to lose my balance when I look, I can catch my balance still because everything moves in the same exact way as the real world is moving around me. I'm able sit in a spaceship seat and look around and see the controls 2-3 feet away from me, literally get up out of my seat and stand next to it or behind it as if I were really there (Elite Dangerous). When sitting in the pit of an F-16 I can look out over the left wing and literally see the entire life-sized craft and wing extending out several feet, the ground feet below me, and that other jet sitting a mile away at the end of the runway starting its takeoff roll (DCS World). VR is THAT real, I can't stress how amazing it is to someone who's never put a headset on.
@Artax Horse I've had an Oculus CV1, and then the Rift S, but have gotten rid of both and getting a Quest 2. But I suggest researching for yourself to decide what's best for your usage.
What I learned from this interview: "Our minds can be wrong. If we bog ourselves down with the details of how everything works, we can't get anything done" Yeah I learned this the first day of high school lol I'm sorry
My personal philosophy is " if you don't know everything, then you don't know anything. Before anyone replies saying I'm crazy, stupid , or misguided, let me say ahead of time , your right, or your wrong, or both simultaneously
I don't think it's stupid. It's a different way to think of reality, so thanks for sharing. Actually? The last part you mentioned reminds me of Schrödinger's cat. No one knows all. We all learn and I suppose as we do so, the experiences, the attachments we place upon experiences and inner understandings, shape the way we perceive consciousness. Then there's the aspect of mindful awareness imho which is like the awareness watching the avatar that is our body in this human body-mind paradigm. But... we could all be wrong. I think that physics, quantum theory and mechanics are fascinating because of many unknown variables.
Personally, it's fascinating to walk into learning about the potentially unknowable. That's my plan and intention. I would postulate there must be "something" within the human spirit given the thirst for knowledge. That indomitable human spirit is something to behold.
Schroedinger's Cat
@@jenniferm8831 there is a profound will/need to know who is witnessing/perceiving..who are we beyond our ego
There is duality within nature and the Universe. Based upon one's perception they will say either of those things. It doesn't make them right (or another).
There is a fine line between genius and lunacy.
Games like DayZ and GTA really brings a couple of things into perspective. These games are built from code/math/binary just like everything around us can be worked out with math meaning its much like these games but 100000 times more complex. The fun part is the probability of a game like DayZ existing without a actual person/author it is also 0.
I really enjoyed this interview. It’s interesting Hoffman’s belief that space and time are not fundamental, I can grasp that. However, science and mathematics cannot prove everything, which may be equally the problem.
Most people that think we are in a simulation is always men. Well here's my female theory why we are not: childbirth. Having gone through childbirth 3 times and the tremendous pain you go through for the cervix to dilate cannot be fake. It can't be an illusion. It is the most physical experience I've ever had. Its like the movie "Total Recall" where the man tries to tell Arnold Schwarzenegger that he's stuck in a dream, and he almost believes him until he notices the man is sweating profusely. Sure the mind could be tricked into believing lots of things, but when it comes to hard core physical pain like that, no I don't believe a computer could simulate that.
I felt true terrible physical pain smoking dmt. Schizophrenic people might as well they are called tactile hallucinations.
If the reality we see and live in is false, what is the control that allows this determination to be made?
What allows an individual to say what is real and what isn't if everything you experience is made of the same stuff?
It's more like the nature of our reality is different than we originally thought it to be.
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where can i watch the highlights, not time for a 2hr video thanks
Having watched the entire (very interesting) discussion, I don't think he would say he has "proven" anything. Rather he is hypothesizing. He has a hypothesis that what we think of as physical reality (space-time) is not actually fundamental reality. It is more like a representation of reality rather than reality itself. He would like to figure out a way to "prove" this hypothesis.
What you say is interesting because Donald Hoffman seems to have convinced some people and not others as to the possibility that this human existence is a simulation. Where he goes off at a tangent is in his use of terms that describe what our brains are. Some will be taken in by his theory that needs more verification and experimentation to clear up the doubts behind his ideas.
I could help him if he knew me
@@Living_the_Highlight Both yourself and Hoffman are on a similar journey as far as simulation goes. Did you know that cognitive psychologists are not viewed as scientists by the scientific fraternity? There are a number of reasons for this. Psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability.
@@bodhiapurva3887 Simulation Theory is actually a part of physics, similar to quantum physics, as it involves the fundamental nature of reality. That''s why Elon Musk is a huge proponent of it as he's a physics/engineer guy. Evolution doesn't meet any of the above prerequisites as well, hence why it's called a theory.
@@Living_the_Highlight That's fair enough although quantum physics is about the properties and function of sub atomic particles, something Hoffman does not talk about as much as the simulation theory possibly because quantum mechanics is not in his field of expertise. Hoffman notes that the commonly held view that brain activity causes conscious experience has, so far, proved to be intractable in terms of scientific explanation.
Hoffman proposes a solution to the hard problem of consciousness by adopting the view that consciousness causes brain activity and, in fact, creates all objects and properties of the physical world. To this end, Hoffman has developed and combined two theories: the "multimodal user interface" theory of perception and "conscious realism".