Vince Neil of Motley Crüe | His Deadly Car Crash and the Death of Razzle
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Vincent Neil Wharton (born February 8, 1961), best known by the stage name Vince Neil, is an American musician. He is the lead vocalist and occasional rhythm guitarist of heavy metal band Mötley Crüe, which he fronted from their 1981 formation until his departure in 1992. Neil reunited with the band in 1996 and continued with them until the band's 2015 retirement, and again from the band's 2018 reunion onwards. Outside of Mötley Crüe, Neil has also released three studio albums as a solo artist - the most recent of which, Tattoos & Tequila, was released in 2010.
Mötley Crüe is an American heavy metal band formed in Los Angeles in 1981. The group was founded by bassist Nikki Sixx, drummer Tommy Lee, lead guitarist Mick Mars and lead singer Vince Neil. Mötley Crüe has sold over 100 million albums worldwide. They have also achieved seven platinum or multi-platinum certifications, nine Top 10 albums on the Billboard 200 chart (including 1989's Dr. Feelgood, which is Mötley Crüe's only album to reach number one), twenty-two Top 40 mainstream rock hits, and six Top 20 pop singles. The band experienced several short-term lineup changes in the 1990s and 2000s; these included the introduction of vocalist John Corabi (who was Neil's replacement from 1992 to 1996) and drummers Randy Castillo and Samantha Maloney, both of whom filled in for Lee following his departure from Mötley Crüe in 1999; he returned to the band in 2004. More recently in 2022 guitarist Mick Mars announced his retirement from touring with the band, with former Rob Zombie guitarist John 5 taking his place on live duties.
In late 1984, Finnish hard rock band Hanoi Rocks was on their second American tour and their first to reach California. The two gigs meant to be held in Los Angeles sold out in only twenty minutes. On the day they arrived in Los Angeles, December 8, Hanoi Rocks drummer Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley and the other members of the band (with the exception of singer Michael Monroe, who was recovering from a fractured ankle) visited Neil's home and spent the day in Redondo Beach. After partying for hours, Neil and Razzle decided to visit to a local liquor store in Neil's De Tomaso Pantera. Neil, who was drunk, lost control of the car and hit an oncoming vehicle. The two occupants of the other car were seriously injured and suffered brain damage, and Dingley was killed. Neil was charged with vehicular manslaughter and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with the crash. His blood alcohol content was 0.17, well above the California legal limit at that time of 0.10. In September 1985, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Edward Hinz Jr. sentenced Neil to 30 days in jail and five years' probation. Neil was ordered to pay $2.6 million in restitution to the victims of the crash and undergo 200 hours of community service. Neil was paroled after serving 15 days in jail for good behavior; Mötley Crüe dedicated their third studio album, Theatre of Pain, to Razzle.
Nicholas Charles Dingley (2 December 1960 - 8 December 1984), better known by his stage name Razzle, was the English drummer of Finnish glam rock band Hanoi Rocks from 1982 until his death.
He was buried at Holy Cross Church in Binstead, on the Isle of Wight in 1984.
Neil dedicated Theatre of Pain, Mötley Crüe's third studio album, to Razzle. In 2015 Neil admitted to Ultimate Classic Rock that he wrote a check for $2.5 million to the courts, so he only ever served 19 days of a 30-day sentence for the reckless death
Neil's account of this event, while contradictory to witnesses accounts, is documented in Mötley Crüe's 2001 autobiography The Dirt: Confessions of the World's Most Notorious Rock Band. Max Milner portrayed Razzle in the 2019 film adaptation.
Nikki Sixx said at the end that this tragedy made the band tighter, but it didn't. This actually caused a permanent rift in Motley Crue that has never healed.
You said it Scott, Vince is going strong, yet the victims are still dealing with the pain. I truly wish DUI laws gets more stern each year. Thanks Scott🥰
Vince is not going strong he drinks himself to oblivion to forget all the pain of Razzle and Skylar
@@aprilgosa5779 You actually believe that🤦🏼♂️🤣🤣🤣😊
vince neil is an asshole we need to do so much more and better of a job of stopping very very large numbers of drunk people from ever getting behind the wheel because most people that know or see drunk people really arent doing anything at all to stop drunk people they know or see from driving this needs to be done so much more often and better which really should have been done over 2 decades ago what the hell
@@Alien300Blackout yeah, Skylar killed Neil's soul. Especially because so many people said Skylar's death was his karma for Razzle. People tried to tell Neil God doesn't give a child kidney cancer to get back at the dad but people still say it.
He's trash.
Vince was out of jail before one of the people in the volkswagon was out of a coma
Seriously? Holy shit
Awful.
We lived in Redondo Beach at the time this happened. I’ll never forget how angry the community was over the punishment being the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. It just wasn’t right.
I thought I heard her wrong. WTH
The fine Vince paid was for the victims in the other car. Razzle's family didn't receive one red cent. I saw an interview of Vince saying himself he got off easy and felt guilty about it. He also said he thought Skylar's death was his karma.
Out of Motley Crüe, Mick is the most stand up guy. I believe Vince has a bigger heart now and still suffers the guilt of killing Razzle. I like Vince a whole lot better than Tommy. I can barely stomach Nikki at all.
@@roxannemoser I like their music but I always try to separate the art from the artist. Now that John 5 is stepping in for Mick, I really feel for him. He's a nice, down to Earth guy whose only vices seem to be collecting Kiss memorabilia and vintage Fender Telecasters. I just hope he's got his guard up.
@@roxannemoser Mick Mars is the most modest person in the group and the brains behind everything. There's a lot of folks who would disagree with me and say Nikki Sixx. I met Vince Neil one year at Las Vegas Motor Speedway at the drag strip. He was a guest of one the race teams. He was cool with fans. I did get a autograph from on a shirt. The new guy John 5 has very huge shoes too fill in the band. There's only Mick Mars one of the greatest guitarist ever.
@@roxannemoser He is wrong Skylar was not Karma for what happened to Razzle 1 God would not do that 2 Nobody deserves to watch his child die
I remember when this happened. Surprised something like this didn’t happen earlier as the band was totally out of control with drink and drugs. Watched another CZcamsr pay respect to Razzle who is buried on the Isle Of Wight . #RIPRazzle
I remember when this happened too. The rock press took it pretty seriously, I remember reading about it in Rolling Stone
Isle of man? Don't you mean Isle of Wight
Apologies indeed it is. Edited above. 👍
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What a tragic story it's like my friends daughter who was 20. 2 years ago she was back seat passenger in a soft top with top down. The driver was fine the other passenger was seriously injured but recovered while keegan my friends beautiful daughter was killed instantly almost cut in half. The driver has only just gone to trial as he pleaded not guilty. It went to court last month he then pleaded guilty so waiting for sentencing in a few weeks. Now the driver was still aloud to drive no jail time no fine still waiting for justice. Something should be done to the drivers who cause death or serious injury shouldn't be allowed to just walk and carry on with their lives having taken other life. Anyway I shall stop there. Thanks Scott for sharing love from West Yorkshire UK ❤️ 🇬🇧
I was the passenger in a horrific drunk driving incident a few years back. Really changed my perspective on life and made me never want to get into a car with a drunk driver ever again. Im lucky to be here
Glad you're still here also 🤗 it's scary, been there when another intoxicated friend was driving us all back he from a concert, I sat in the middle seat trying to help them drive, they kept saying I'm not drunk, in the back of my mind I knew differently and had to help because there where others in the vehicle drunk, so one by one they all got home safe, now it's just me over to the passenger seat, as they got me home safe I had asked if they wanted to crash at my place until later that day or eat something and relax until you sober up, they said no I'm fine, well it wasn't fine, they where hit Head on by another drunk driver on their way home, that driver wasn't killed but the person driving us all home did, the drunk driver that killed him got away with no time, because they thought because my guy was drunk and hey caused it and not the other dude since his blood content wasn't as high as for the other dude's.... Just sad, buzz driving to me is the same as drunk driving.... R.I.P to all that have been killed by a drunk driver... 🙏
were you both drunk because these 2 were everyone acts as if Vince forced him it was a tragedy that Vince still suffers from mentally and emotionally
@@aprilgosa5779 does it matter if we were both drunk? I think what matters here is the fact that I’m still alive today, to tell the story about it.
@@DiogenesUlyanov unfortunately both of you are correct. Its great & amazing that you are still here! But both made an active choice to get in the vehicle. (IF, both of you were intoxicated) Either way, I hope I don't offend, its not my intention! This is just my opinion on these types of crashes.
My Nan got cleaned up by a drunk driver who crossed the median strip and hit her head on. It was in ‘64, and although she was lucky to survive she lived with the physical consequences of that accident for the rest of her life. I was 18 months old when it happened and 33 when she died..30 years of unnecessary suffering for one bloke’s bad choices. It frustrates me that people are still dying every day because of drunk drivers.
Finally someone does this story justice. Good job Scott
I remember my cousin telling me about this in the summer of '85. I was a little 7 year old kid who loved Motley Crue and I refused to believe him. To me, at the time, these guys were stars who could do no wrong. Now, looking back, it's amazing when I think about the fact that it was Tommy who warned Vince not to get behind the wheel. When Tommy Lee is the voice of reason, the situation is pretty much FUBAR.
Tommy seems more normal like sure he’s done stupid stuff but he’s never hurt anyone or killed anyone like Vince. At least Tommy handles his booze and doesn’t do stupid things like what Vince did. Tommy’s a little nuts but he’s never killed or harmed anyone, he’s ok in my book. At least he acts responsibly when he drinks. Common sense Vince doesn’t have whatsoever
@@Stewieboy1995 A little kid drowned in his pool at a birthday party at his house, does that count?
WOW, I haven't heard FUBAR since the 70's. You must be like me, older than dirt 🤣🤣🤣. You Take Care and Stay Safe ✌️
@@Stewieboy1995Tommy crashed his motorcycle and crushed his passenger hand in the process. He was fucked up. Didn't serve a day. Nikki crashed his car around the time of Vince's accident. Luckily no one was in his car.
@@Stewieboy1995Tommy Lee definitely doesn’t act responsibly when he drinks 💀
I knew Razzle well right from his days in The Fuck Pigs, Demon Preacher and The Dark. I remember when he was offered the gig with Hanoi Rocks. He was best mates with my mate Adam. We used to hang out quite a bit especially in The Marquee Club and Gossips in Soho. Great times especially for a young punk rocker who was fresh outta high school hanging out with members of Hanoi Rocks.
One surreal moment I always fondly remember was being at my dads playing my guitar when my mate Adam, Razzle and Nasty Suicide turned up, we were probably going to The Marquee or 100 Club or similar. I always remember Nasty raving about the tone I was getting from my Leo valve practice amp. I lost touch with my mate and Razzle at the time of his death but I remember my mate being devastated it was extremely sad news Razzle really was a very placid unassuming lovely bloke.
Exactly. Nick was a placid, unassuming, lovely bloke - sweet and kind, talkative and funny.
Everytime I see an accident or I see an ambulance pass me I pray that whoever is in ambulance or in a crash I always pray that everyone is kk or when I pass the cemetery I always say rip to all who lost their live rip that's just out of respect thxz for a great video scott
My dad used to party with the band a lot and I remember him telling me about this when I was a kid. Too bad I never got more stories after I grew up he passed away
I've never been to cali you're out there with the stars and that's where you should be ...your channel is a huge hit cause you are the best at what you do and I can't wait to see what's coming next like everyone else ..you're the new homerun king cause you cover the best subjects and do it with style humor and the research that is incredible
Thank you so much Mark!
Great video thank you
Stars? U mean the pedos? I've never been there either and have 0 desire to.
Oh yea, good video.
I remember when this tragedy happened. I got most of my music news from Circus magazine or MTV. I wasn’t aware the accident occurred so close to where the bands were partying. Also never knew about the occupants in the VW and how badly they were injured. Vince Neil did not receive just punishment for all of the devastation he caused, imo. Such an awful thing to have happened that could have obviously been avoided. RIP Razzle
that crazy wow
The unintentional asmr of your videos get me every time, regardless of subject matter. Such a soothing voice.
Yeah,that's what got me on the hook with Scotty-with his Jeff Buckley piece...
I was never a big fan of motley crue but the movie the dirt was really good. Such a tragic story. Vince Neil got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle
Times and laws were different. The guy the drunk driver that killed Criss Oliva (guitarist of Savatage) served 18 months of a 5 year sentence, no big pay out and he had 7 prior DUI's.. That to me is way more of a slap on the wrist. and he wasn't famous.
Fell in love with this band a couple of years back. Not sure why I had never really given the Crue a chance but they have some amazing songs. Didn't find out about this incident until I watched The Dirt which is an awesome movie.
Baffles me how he didn't serve much time.
Great video as always, Scott. Keep doing what you do best brother. Love from England.
Doc McGhee got Vince out of trouble with that.
Big money lawyers. You know the kind Us normies can’t possibly afford. Think O.J. Simpson. lol
not many drunk drivers do
@jayIgnition I hate being someone who says this... But if you liked the movie Dirt.. You HAVE TO read the book! I liked em both. But it isn't even close!! The movie misses 90% of the story.
Read the book goes into more detail about what was going on at the time with the band I too discovered motley Crue 3 years ago I was on heroin I was 23 in a bad spot in my life I've now been almost a year clean but Nikki's story resonates with me so much... Another person whose music I discovered while being lost in the black despair pit that is heroin addiction, is Prince.! He rocks too just like motley rox.. God bless guys
We used to call onlookers who slowed down traffic: “rubber neckers.” Another great video Scott! Thank you! ❤
Or a Lookie Lou !
R.I.P Raz and condolences to your family and friends 🙏🙏🙏💖💖💖🇬🇧
Great job and props to you for giving 85 Grave credit too. It's nice when people give credit to others that do hard work and you just don't take the info and just make it your own. Great job.
Good Evening Scott 🙋🏽. Awesome Video ‼️ Thanks for sharing this with me.😃👍🏽
Great video as always Scott. I recently visited Razzles grave. He’s buried on the Isle of Wight off the South coast of England. It’s great too see where it all happened 🙏
I just commented that I watched your video on Razzle without realising you commented too. Great work Paul.
I loved Motley crew whilst growing up, RIP Raz, never forgotten 💐💐, thank you Scott ✌️✌️🤟🏼
I def agree. Had this happened back then with today's tech, Vince either would had gotten cancelled or would never live it down. He even admitted in the VH1 documentary he bought his way out of jail.
Your comments aren't harsh at all Scott. Anyone else would have done some serious time for such an accident, if you can call it that. Money talks and people walk. Vince issued a court room apology to one of the victims, besides the payout that was it. Thanks for showing this location. I have Chynnas' autobiography, I'll have to check out your video about her. RIP Razzle ❤️💐🕊️🌈
Laura I agree with you if you have money and your famous you get away with it Robert from Australia
@@robertmckay2833 A lot of times it's true. As Scott pointed out, Motley Crue was a the top of their game at this time and it would have been a blow to them and their organization if their lead singer got locked up. Millions of dollars would have been lost. It's disgusting that money prevailed over justice in this case, but in a subtle way Divine Justice prevailed.🌄
@@laurastrobel718While I agree money helps, it's not like people normally get a huge sentence for vehicular manslaughter. At the end of the day it was an accident, a mistake. Obviously an avoidable one and horribly tragic.
@@MrOctober44 So tragic 😕 Appreciate your input.💫
I hope he is reminded of that horrific night each and everyday. SMDH
Perfect timing… thank u! And a good way to celebrate my bday today! Love from SoCal.
It’s my brother’s birthday todays and this was a video he wanted u to cover thanks Scott have a nice rest of your day
"Mornings aren't great for me." Awesome.
Scott you are kicking butt bringing us amazing content thank you
Thanks so much for Sharing!!!❤
Awesome video,as always, Scott! 👍 Yeah, Vince got a slap on the wrist. RIP Razzle. 🤗✌️
Great cinematography. And historical narration.
The same month in '84 Rick Allen of Def Leppard lost his arm in an accident.
I remember this incident when I was a kid in 84. Great video Scott. Love me Some Motley Crue still.
I just watched this for the first time. I’m a huge Hanoi Rocks fan so I’ve avoided watching any videos about the crash since it will only make me angry. You did a wonderful job sticking to the facts, not dramatizing it. You were also very respectful of Razzle and the other two people horribly injured in the accident. I thank you for that.
Hanoi was a magical, once in a lifetime band. It’s tragic how things ended for Razzle and for the band but they left behind some of the most amazing music I’ve ever heard.
Thank you for such an informative video about an event that I wasn't aware of.... you do extraordinary work and I appreciate your sense of integrity.
Lovely view that beach with the low clouds, beautiful!!
Still blows my mind that Neil skated with essentially a very large fine and no serious jail time. I guess money can get you out if a lot of problems.
I love old Crue, but seriously, he should have been doing hard time for that level of negligence. A .17 is about 6-8 drinks in an hour for a person of Vince's body type (170-190 lbs). Plus how much coke, etc... yeah. He got off light.
Vehicular Homicide, IMHO.🤗✌️
Hanoi rocks has been my favorite band since I was in the 6th grade. Thanks for sharing
Yet another interesting story which I’m just learning about from you, Scott. I was 9 or 10 when this happened. You always do such a great job with your videos, and I always learn something new. Thank you!
Paul of Unusual things vlog have done after my request , a great video about his grave. I appreciate and he was very kind!
Thanks to him and to you that remember also Razzle .. not very often is done, a lots of musicians or music appassionate don’t know about this tragic story.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 great Scott
Vince Neal after this , lost his daughter .. karma? I don’t know, but in think that this thing of razzle rest for him for all his life.
THANKK U SCOTT ON TAPE I REALLY ENJOY YOUR SITE!!
Such a tragic shame RIP Razzle.
The weather looks awesome compared to here in Alberta, Canada it -35 in the day time.
I got to know and meet the guys from crue after this incident. My first time hanging out Vince had just been released in jail and they were back on the theater of Pain Tour. He had shorter hair, seemed quite compared to the rest of the guys. I think loosing his daughter then this has taken a toll on him personally.
@LCA-Auctions he lost his daughter in the 90s this happened when he was young in 1984 some say Skylar dying was his karma t hey do not know the Lord I serve Vince has never gotten over this or Skylar so yes he chose to drink he needs treatment not condemnation
@aprilgosa5779 I know this. Thank you for response.
I think he needs to realize it’s the two in that other car that have to live their lives having someone help them go to the bathroom and eat and bathe. He doesn’t give a damn and I don’t care his daughter died, he’s taken enough lives in one night. He just needs to realize you took two young peoples lives that now are vegetables basically you took their lives away by your stupidity. I don’t see him ever giving a Damn about those two young kids, it’s always his daughter who passed. I understand it’s sad but how many lives did he destroy in one night
Such a sad story 😢❤️ poor man 😔🌹🌟🌹R.I.P 🙏🕊️❤️ Thank you again Scott for always great videos 🤗😊👌❤️ You are absolutely the best 💪😊💞
Great video. Thanks Scott.
Awesome job again, Scott. I was never that into Motley Crue so I guess I never digested this story when it originally broke back in the day. But I love your take on it, and I can't agree with you more. I've been in a few car accidents - and the way you describe the "explosion" and crunch, etc - it immediately took me back there. Fortunately for me and those involved - it was mostly "minor" accidents, but serious all the same. Anyway - thanx for the story and interesting facts. Take care, my friend.
I like motley Crüe but not so much these past years since I’ve grown up. I realize they’re egotistical jerks and just horrible people. They also can’t close their mouths especially Nikki. I thought they were cool as a kid but now I’m 27 and I just realize they’re not good people, better rockstars to appreciate and admire. These motley boys are drunks, druggies and womanizers like don’t have to be a pig with women. No respect for people these clowns. Lost respect for them years ago when I realized how stupid they are, especially Vince and the crash.
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Hey Scott Happy Holidays
Well done Scott! Thanks for covering this my friend...✌👍
❤Scott, I hope you see this. THANK YOU for this one. My son was killed by a drugged driver fleeing from the police, 5 years ago. People need to be more aware of this stuff even when it isn’t Vince Neil. I will never be the same.❤️
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WOW this is great!!! I’ve met Vince twice and a huge Crue fan🤘I remember this like yesterday I was 12yrs old when this happened and had just bought Theater Of Pain Motley Crue was getting huge then and this happened and I was so young then I didn’t exactly realize the magnitude of it until years later so tragic 😢 great one Scott 👍thanks brother!!!
ToP came out the summer of '85. The crash happened half a year before its release, although the court case concluded two months after ToP hit the shelves. Vince's actions killed his friend, and left two other people with permanent brain damage for the rest of their lives. In his own words from his book, he said "you could tell they were very f-cked up." I can like the music, but fuck Vince Neil.
When you met Vince, was he nice, or an a$$hole. The one time I met him, he was very humble. Drunk, but humble. He was polite and said thank you to me when I told him Motley was dead wrong for firing him.
@@Caffeine_Club Vince himself said that he still feels guilty and he blames himself for his daughter's death. He said in an interview I saw that he thought Skylar's death was his karma.
@@roxannemoser that's ridiculous. He was responsible for Razzle's death, and permanently injuring the other two people that night, but his daughter's disease had zero to do with Vince Neil's actions. Let him feel bad for those he did harm, not for his innocent child who had nothing to do with his terrible decision.
@@roxannemoser Karma works that way sometimes, I don't hate Vince I actually like him and MC but I don't think it was a concidence that his daughter passed, and that sucks because the little girl didn't deserve it.
HEY SCOTT!!! thank you for sharing this ... when i was 19years old in 1977 i was driving my 64 impala ss coming back from the drive in movies,and we were drunk!! well i hit a utility pole doing 95 and my best freind that was in my passenger seat died.. i just broke my leg.. i got neglagent homicide and 10 year probation and 90 days in jail and 500 hours of comunity service...and i still suffer everyday for the guilt and loss of my best freind virgil ray .😪
I just signed up for 85 grave thank u for being respectful even tho u have ur opinions at the same time he lost his daughter so there's a lot he's going thru also
RIP Nicholas "Razzle" Dingley. I was a HUGE Hanoi Rocks fan. I discovered them through GNR. Izzy made his stage image after Andy McCoy.
Edit: not one dime of the restitution went to Razzle's family. I saw an interview where Vince says he still feels guilty. Sharise was pregnant with Skylar when this happened, and Vince said he believes Skylar's death was his fault too. He said it was his karma for getting off so easy. He also said that he didn't ask Doc McGhee to fight so hard for that easy time, but he didn't reject it when it was handed down. He had to stay sober during tours as Tommy and Nikki were shooting heroin and ridiculing Vince for having to stay clean. He eventually couldn't handle it and started drinking again, but he never did heroin.
Andy McCoy gave Nikki the shot that made him overdose. Nikki wasn't hit with a baseball bat, nor thrown in a dumpster. Andy did CPR until the ambulance arrived. Andy left when Nikki showed back up and told him he was stupid.
Here's Andy's story:
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Andy Mccoy hates Vince n Nikki and Nikki Overdosed twicce in a 24 hour period
He absolutely did. Still wasn't Andy's fault as Nikki states.
Love your site. I appreciate your videos and love your input !!
Obviously this is terrible situation . You reporting it tho brings the situation to light. God bless RAZZ !!
Thanks Scott! I don’t even remember all of this. Sad for everyone involved 😢🙏. Have a beautiful weekend everyone 🙏❤
15 days?? What a joke. 😮
Grew up listening to Motley Crue and never even knew about this.
15 days. Travesty! RIP Razzle, and blessings to the 2 people in the other car.
Thank you Scott for doing this story I was 10 years old when this happened and I agree with you Vince Neal got off easy.
So sad, Razzle was so young!! I grew up liking Crue’s music, but not gonna lie, 15 days in jail for manslaughter!?? I guess money talks. RIP Razzle, 🌹peace to the families. Your videos are awesome Scott keep em coming!!🙏🏽👍
This is one of rock’s saddest stories, and Vince Neill got off lightly, but living with the knowledge that people died or had their lives forever changed for the worse because of you can’t be easy. You can only drink so much of that responsibility away. Razzle was a really special human being….can’t say the same for Vince.
I’m glad you like Vince got off “Scott free”. Vince has been tormented with what happened for the last 38 years. Imagine the guilt he carries. Mental wounds don’t heal easily. His demons have had their way with him. Put yourself in his shoes.
He knew that he shouldn't have been behind the wheel but he went anyway and from what I learned here he had more DUIs since that accident. So he doesn't feel bad about what he did.
A person who gets caught for DUI twice after killing a person and seriously injuring two others isn't a good human.
Your moral superiority has been duly noted
@MrOctober44 moral superiority?just calling a selfish asshat,a selfish asshat...
I remember this happening. I'm a huge fan of Motley Crue but a small slap on the wrist for killing one and severely injuring two others. 30 days in jail released after only 15 days?!? Yes, he paid a huge fine but the whole situation could have been avoided. Hire a driver!! You had the money, Vince ‼️
Thanks Scott for another in depth and detailed upload. 😊
Not really a huge fine for one death and 2 serious injuries, one of whom permanently disabled needing care etc. After lawyers fees the victims didn’t really get enough, especially considering Vince could have afforded to pay a lot more
I point the finger at Vince for the whole situation, but I also point the finger to everyone who was at that party who allowed Vince to get behind the wheel and drive. That walk is 30 mins, tops?? Never should have happened. Great video btw.
RIP BIG Raz 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great Video. Thanks Scott for covering this❤
Ive seen his grave on the isle of white as i live in the uk. He wouldn’t be laying there now if they’d have just walked the 5 minute walk to restock on booze 😢
Alot of lives were destroyed over this RIP Razzle..Iost a brother in 1985 in a plane crash he was the pilot 24yrs old.We never got a straight answer on what really happened rumors of faulty engine on old Cessna my parents did not pursue justice in my opinion🖤😪
It's like you live in my head . Or you in my mind..you know the thing. Great film good sir.
Excellent stuff Scott.
New subscriber, love your vids man! Real life, real stuff
Thank you Jordy!!
Hi from Missouri
No internet back then, so people couldn't cancel him, like would happen now. The consequences would be far different in 2023.
Very tragic for the victims, I hope this story will make at least one person stop and think about driving drunk. As always, thank you for your hard work Scott.
I never heard about this case. I was too young then. Very interesting video. Beautiful area.
Scott, I had a visceral reaction to this video. I remember the first car accident I heard to this day. It was about 40 years ago. Thankfully, no one was seriously hurt. I do remember that I heard the loudest out of place bang. I knew what it was and I ran around the corner to the accident scene and saw a car had hit a light pole. I called emergency services and the lady driving was okay. In 1993, a girl I went to high school with had came from college and brought her best friend back to my hometown for the Christmas holiday break. They decided to join her brother and his girlfriend for a night out. Unfortunately, the brothers girlfriend chose to drive drunk. They skidded on the icy roads and smashed into a tree. Both of the girls in the back seat were killed instantly. The brother in the front seat had life changing brain trauma. Our community is still struggling
Scott, you really gave razz justice. I was 18 when this happened and never knew about it. I loved Motley Crue but had I known Vince Neill killed a dude I probably would have not continued being a fan. Vince has been in so many brushes with the law that I'd take away his license too!
Thank you for another great video. You are the best! ✌️
Vince did not kill anyone it was a car wreck killing someone is shooting or stabbing intentionally they were both trashed and unfit to drive I am so sad for Razzle but even he would probably testify that nobody forced him to get in that car
@@aprilgosa5779 You da crazy American, yah. Dat one who think you is the queen, when is not true? Mama Mia, you big dumdum..
Imma-gonna-slappa-you-dumdum-wit-the-wet-spaghetti. Mama Mia
@@aprilgosa5779 wow, I truly hope you or your loved ones never find out the hard way that drunk driving is no accident. It’s a choice. Vince caused loss of life and severe permanent disability. And received next to no punishment. If he was TRULY remorseful he would have given more money to the victims. After lawyers fees, those poor folks in the VW (who weren’t drunk so HOW DO YOU BLAME THEM??!!) got very little money for permanent pain and disability. Razzle’s family reportedly got zero money. Meanwhile, Vince has made millions
@@nicolaxoxo1First off, none of us know what Vince might have done. The victims in the other car were paid over two million dollars. I think what his point was, It was an accident. This wasn't something malicious. The other commenter never blamed anyone.
Hey Scott thanks for this, I only knew what was on the Dirt ,and sketchy stuff back when it happened back when! iam 61 my mind not so clear anymore lol 😆
Believe it or not that accident happened right in front of my apartment on the Esplanade in Redondo Beach Ca. We were having dinner when it happened. My wife and I looked out our window, and within seconds the police were there. I had never heard of Vince Niel before!
I remember this being around the same time Rick Allen from Def Leppard was involved in a car crash that caused him to lose his arm.
I have severe neck & upper back injuries from 4 car wrecks.
First one was 3/10/1975. My boyfriend was driving his 1965 Chevy Nova & I was sitting cross legged on the front passenger seat, leaning my back against the door.
In 1975, there was no seat belt laws. And his car that was 10 years old had come from the factory without any seatbelts in it.
He had come to my house for dinner & we had plans to go to a movie about 30 miles one way from my parents house.
My dad was really quiet that night. He said, please don't go out anywhere tonight.
Why??
It was the date he had lost his mom at the age of 13.
Of course we went. It was apparently "urgent" that we see this movie, and yet now, I cannot remember what the movie was.
We left the theater and turned onto my street.
As we did my boyfriend said, see, nothing happened! Your dad is sure paranoid!
We got to my house and were sitting on the street, waiting for the on coming traffic to make a left I to the driveway.
I remember hearing the ticking noise of the turn signals.
I was looking at him and remember seeing the lights reflecting off the rear view mirror onto his face from the car approaching behind us.
Then he started to say, "Oh f#$k, we are going to...."
The lights went out for me.
Next thing I remember was waking up with my butt where my feet should have been, my right leg on the drivers seat, & my left leg stuck between the front seats.
I could hear people yelling. One of them was my boyfriend who was screaming that the car was going to explode and I was going to die.
I felt this tremendous pain on the right side of my head. I looked upwards and could see my dad, my neighbor, a cop, & my boyfriend as they yanked on the passenger door.
Finally my neighbor came with a crow bar. This was before the rule about not moving someone who is injured, and the area only had 5 ambulances. All the ambulances were at a mukti-vehicle wreck on the turnpike.
Once the door was open, the cop reached in and got me out. He helped me over to the step near the front door of my house and my mom was holding a towel on my head.
Of course since this was right in front of my house, every neighbor was outside to see what happened.
Then I see a guy, who I never saw before, running from a woman (never saw her before either) who was whacking the guy on the head with her purse.
I remember asking my mom who they were and why she was hitting him.
My mom said that is the driver who hit you and the one hitting him is his wife. She was screaming at him that he should have let her drive because he was so drunk. We also heard her yell that it was his 10th accident of that month--it was the 10th of March.
He had tires with zero tread, dents all over his car, his DL had been suspended for 4 past DUI's, & no insurance.
The cop drove my mom & I to the hospital. This was prior to CT Scans or MRI's, so all they could do then was x-rays. Nothing broken, so just whiplash. Just??
They gave me a prescription for pain pills and bandaged up the right side of my head as I had a big gash on it. They wanted bro do stitches but said they wanted to shave the side of my head. No thanks!
I got home at about 3 AM. My mom sat up with me as the doctor said do not let her fall asleep until 7 AM due to the concussion.
When I finally went to sleep, pain woke me up at around 10 AM. I sat up and could not lift my head up.
I screamed for my mom who ran in. She saw me looking down and thought it was a spider in my bed.
I told her I couldn't lift my head up!
This time she took me to a different hospital. The doctor there said I had torn the muscles & tendons in my neck. They put me in a hard plastic collar.
I was in the hard collar for 2 months and then a soft collar for another 6 months.
I had no health insurance so I suddenly had medical bills coming in. He had no car insurance.
I found a lawyer who did some digging and found the guy owned his house. He filed a motion to take it. He had already been charged with yet another DUI, but this one with injuries.
His name was William Bender, but my mom called him Fender Bender. He came to our house after he had been notified that we were taking his house.
My mom said to stay in my room and don't come out. She told him, I'm very sorry, here is her lawyers number, you need to speak to him.
I have had neck & back pain off & on until 2004 when I was hit by a lady who ran a stop sign. Same in 2006. And in 2016.
Sometimes I think I have a bulls eye on me.
In 2013, I had an MRI and right under where the guy in 1975 injured my head, I now have MS. I also have Lupus.
I think that wreck in 1975 destroyed my health.
That guy never did serve ANY jail time. He was so drunk that he was falling down before his wife was chasing him.
If you want to drink, great. But there is ZERO excuse for a DUI!
During the week between Christmas & New Year's Eve, Florida has a program that is funded by MADD, bars, restaurants, AAA Auto Club, etc. If you are out and have too much to drink, they send a tow truck which takes you & your car home! There is no cost to you. It is cheaper than a car wreck and a DUI now a days.
Estimated cost of first DUI here is $10,000.
While I realize that for Vince Neil that would have been nothing to pay. At least he was forced to pay a few million since the judge didn't seem to give him a long time in jail.
My step father in 1959 was 17 and out partying with his girl friend and another couple. He hit a car and killed a 17 yr old boy. He did about 4 or 5 yrs in prison. Most of his life he was a children church pastor and never drank. My younger half sisters never knew about what happened till decades later. I always knew but Mom ask me to never talk about it, so I never did. But others around at the time including my real father all told me my step father wasn't driving, his gf Jackie was and recently discovered she was pregnant. So he took the rap. Maybe he didn't talk about it because he didn't want to lie or blame..idk. Neil didn't only thwart accountability- he continued a reckless lifestyle. Young people make mistakes I know I was reckless at times, so just grateful I never hurt anybody. But to kill somebody and continue such mistakes is something I can't wrap my head around.
Great idea for a video.
So true.....always hope people are ok when you hear that noise....
You Tube channel 'Unusual Things' has the British story & visits Razzles final resting place, really good accompaniment to this video! AWESOME JOB SCOTT
Great video man, thanks for posting
Hanoi Rocks reunited in 2002, released three new albums and one Best Of record, and finally disbanded again in 2009. They were extremely successful in Europe and had a huge following in Japan. They took their final bows in April of 2009 after playing 8 farewell shows on six consecutive days at Europe’s oldest rock club in Helsinki, Finland. Michael Monroe, their lead singer, continued as solo artist afterwards, less glam as before, but still a rock legend going strong to this day. Yet, in all those years, he made sure Razzle was never forgotten, dedicating songs to him during live performances, keeping his memory alive.
My daughter was in a horrific car crash she died on seen but they got her back thank God but she was in a coma, 21 hours in surgery, she broke every bone from pelvis down scared her face when her pelvis smashed her left hip piece her bowl bladder and stomach severed her left ankle she has pins plates etc all through her body any way the two worst things for me as her mother was receiving that phone call and then having to tell two little kids my grandchildren aged 10 and 5 that their mum had been hurt worst feeling ever so please people stay safe and alert
🎸I Love both Band's music,but ya he got a slap on the wrist. TFS! Your awesome!💜😊💜
I've been a Motley Crue fan since the'80s, but have always seen this as an injustice. Great material as always Scott! Keep it up!😃👍🇨🇦
Great job Scott✌️💯💯👈👈watching you from New Zealand 🇳🇿 5m people🙏
Awesome video. It was very interesting.
Thanks for taking us there Scott!
Love your stuff . I laughed so hard when you side tracked at some high pitch noise and you were like whats going on up there and then went back to this amazing story. Much love and peace my friend. Keep rocking 🤟🤟🤟 my brother
Haha thank you Justin!!
This tragedy could've been prevented!! He could've had the beer delivered to his apartment!!
'I'm a living wreck, I live in Tooting Bec!' - Razzle RIP. Hanoi Rocks had a song called Tragedy, a song called Dead by Christmas, and a song called Malibu Beach Nightmare.
It happened between Xmas & New Year, it was Redondo, not Malibu, but it sure was a tragedy.Vince Neil swore he would never do it again. But Vince Neil is a serial DUI offender. The drive was 2 minutes, maybe could have walked it, or got a cab?
Michael Monroe split the band up, he felt the band was never the same again without Razzle, unfortunately Vince Neil never really learned his lesson, I am sure he regrets it, but he never really served his time either.,
HOABL
Vince Neil's condo was Chyna's????? That's nuts! I wonder why the drunk driver always walks away unscathed, but others die? 🤔