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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- Well that escalated quickly... find out what everyone in the service park was talking about on Friday evening at WRC Rally Latvia 2024 👀
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Last 2 seasons it was always Kalle who was suffering from starting first every event and STILL won 2 WC.
It's not only last two seasons like that. Apart of 2012 & 2013 championship leader was always opening road even before 2000s. In some years championship leader was opening even 2 days. And they didn't have super Sunday points.
I don't understand why he complains all the time.
@@krzysztofchabras9253 gotta put in that work to be the best. Evans said it best.... get on with it!
And in Toyota there's been no team order's to help Kalle either
@@briangriffith3985 ye, I laughed so much when I read Evans answer. But he's totally right. When Ogier won his first championship in 2013 there was a qualifying stage, from next year he started wave of crying. Only Kalle surfed on it rather than be taken by it and like @HJK242 said under, noone help him with becoming two times champion. I seriously can listen to Neuville for years and Ogier too to be honest. He is the original crybaby.
@@HJK242 exactly and yet Kalle did it twice already.
6:42 rare honest jab from Elfyn there, respect
says the lad who choked the easiest championship ever
elvyn has been mean to hyundai since last year. its fine
@@prod.thomas7415 elfyn took full responsibility. He had no one to blame
@@didimatjila7463 at least thierry was never a hypocrite or mean towards elfyn, toyota needs better personalities.
@@prod.thomas7415 dude what thierry said is hypocritical. It's not elfyn and toyota fault. And even hyundai said although they understand thierry frustration, he needs to deal with it. And u say toyota needs better personalities. U can say the same with hyundai, m-sport ford and past team. What's your point and their nothing wrong with that
Neuville is such a whiner. NOW, he cries when there are other part time drivers too. He has had his share of them too "at his service" and still zero championships.
Hyundai spoilt child
Look at Rovenpera,ogier, loeb , gronholm,malkonen even tanak not just in his championship some of the rallies of his post championship i
Soo...Thierry is saying that if Kalle was driving the whole season, Kalle would lead in points, so he would be clearing the roads? I think I got the message.
I somehow recall this.. as Rovanperä have done this earlier..hmm? Same time Toyota haven't gave anything for free. Toyota have let Ogier take his wins even Rovanperä has been second. Atleast now we can see, that Rovanperä is (way) faster when they have equal starting positions.
Kalle has been cleaning the road for the last 2 seasons so Thierry needs to stop complaining and drive
@@IllumFusion this.
@@3M46DN1Mdifferent points, Kalle had 3 days for points, Thierry only has 2, makes it harder., specially with kalle and ogier doing both the rally, Both still complain alot on it, and they deserve to complain, its bad for the sport
@@prod.thomas7415 Good point. But without "plowing" Rovanperä would dominate the sport even more. I remember that Ogier advised Rovanperä to "calm down" that they dont make up new rules (plowing is because of Ogier?). Well, they did it with this new scoring system :D
Thierry can piss off and everybody else who is now complaining about the driving order, kalle has done it for two years and when he has talked about the problem about the driving order nobody backed him up. If the wrc dont get more drivers and cars i think the system is hard to change because it unfortunately takes away the last bits of competion on the top spots
the new points system negatively affects championship leaders more. but that's the way. all championship winners have complained about roadsweeping since this road position rule started. loeb, ogier, tanak, rovanpera. and its their right to complain!
Even grönholm on his championship years along times when he fought against loeb
I dont get the complaining about part time drivers (Kalle and Seb). Just drive faster than them and score more points.
Cant say it enough, thank you for the coverage. The great footage and views are amazing to see.
I remember 2022 Kalle winning gravel rallies Portugal, Kenya, Estonia,New Zealand while road sweeping and in 23 Portugal,Estonia and Acropolis while road sweeping.
Almost half of his career victories were road sweeping duties and still managed to win.
Neuville is just frustrated and under HUGE pressure to finally win the championship what he’s not been able to do for years despite he had the priority always in Hyunday (I think that’s the biggest mistake from the team).
Might be too much pressure. For example its very rare that he would gone after power stage points if he has been winning the rally.
@@3M46DN1M The new point system is a joke for sure. But he’s frustrated because as a no. 1 driver within the team could not achieve the title for years. Tanak is a champion , he moved back to M Sport , than back to Hyundai again and he’s still very fast (if there’s no deer on the road or that inflatable advert), Thierry is with this team forever as a main driver and lost control over his emotions many times what led to loose rallies.
@@thelifeontwelvewheels6183 Tänak will be the champion. Thats my opinion. But just because there's no Rovanperä&Ogier :D.
@@3M46DN1M Even though they’re not doing full season racing a lot and if Toyota need the points they’ll be there cause they can easily can do 1-2 any time. Tanak could deserve another one for sure. He has the speed the consistency and has less pressure to be champion because he knows how it feels. Sadly the monte and poland accidents dropped him back a bit.
also, have toyota considered just not telling taka he's scoring points 😉
😅🤷♂️
I need to watch the replays here more often. WRC channel barely shows the driving.
Kalle Rovanperä in first avoiding the drama 🐸☕
Thierry can quit if the system "is against him" . Do better.
The points system is not good. Seems Hyundai is not bothering to compete in the first 2 days. The leaders of the first 2 days slow down on the last day to preserve their lead, then Hyundai scores more points just by winning the last super special. Just crazy !!
it's ridiculous. you can finish 5th in the rally and have more points then the winner.
@@guyw8929 You can still lose the championship even you win all the races, in theory. cool system /s
I think if your not doing a full season you should have to start first on the road
Great idea!
Exactly!! Imagine, one like Ollie Bearman in F1 is having one soft tyre more…would look ridiculous for the championship, as does this
@jm_space1339 that is no where near equivalent
Its been like this for a while now, and thiery is crying like its some thing new. Im with you that its not right, but its cost of you doing well. I hope the title goes for Thiery or Elvin, but grying like that makes me wishing it will go to Evans!
@@jm_space1339actually newcommers in F1 should get some help, more test time with the car. Now there is so much easyer for the teams to keep experienced drivers then pick some new inexperienced young blood.
The WRC needs to bring back the qualifying stage.
But quali stage suface should be similar to evryone, first stage results are close to this day so it s representive of true peace
Qualifying would flip the problem on it’s head - it would be equally unfair for developing drivers such as Munster to be sweeping the road on every rally. A cheap and simple, fair and less predictable solution would be to base it on the previous rally’s results. It might even give the overall standings a meaning again too unlike with the new points system!
@@rhodriparry1615It worked before, if a driver is good and on form, he should be rewarded for it
@@prod.thomas7415 Give the winner of the last rally the best road position then, it doesn’t have to follow the same principles as the current system. It would be one more thing to fight for during the rally and make it more interesting, and if they crash on Friday and Saturday they won’t be getting off as lightly as they can do with the new points system.
Unpopular opinion: We need more tarmac events and intersperse them with dirt events during the season
They should do qualifying always on tarmac to have similar conditions to everyone. Kalle would win every single one of them though..
Go Kalle make us proud come on Team Toyota let's get it on Cape Town South Africa
Very odd comments by Thierry. Mate if you dont like it then just quit you know. Did he forget Ogier won Mexico(where its arguably worse to be 1st on the road) from 1st on the road, multiple times?
Takamoto-San 4th Place 💪
The only problem I have with part time drivers is missing out on the 2 best rally drivers in the world fighting for the championship. I also think if your leading the championship you should be last on the road and first should be the driver with the lowest points
This comments from Neuville and Ogier spark the conversation about the Qualy stage being brought back. That in it's own way brings other problems. Maybe they should do 5 runs each, that way eliminating any cleaning effect
Kalle has always been first on the road and he won back to back championships
Wow.. evans
I came to the channel because of our local heroes Martins Sesks and Renars Francis 🇱🇻 but damn.. I love rally since childhood and this channel is doing a great job showing the events on the track and behind the scenes. DirtFish team, thanks for the high quality content! Keep up the good work!
I think Thierrys words have been misinterpreted (like a good journalist does, if he wants to get some reactions), because it isnt necessarily about part time drivers but more about their starting position.Also this year the calendar doesnt have enough tarmac and most gravel rallies this year are more on the sandy/loose side of gravel rallies so it really is a bad season to be first on the road. That being said: if they do a SS1 on the thursday evening, why not already let that decide the road order for friday, even if its a super special. That would give everyone a reason to push on those too, instead of treating them like an appetizer.
Shakedown should be counted as a qualifying stage in ERC
Should Neuville be quiet? They have particularly benefited from that distorting method of calculating points.
Nice to see Holly back on YT! 👍
Neuville dosen't deserve to be champion. This season is broken. worst season in WRC history. We need more drivers like ogier, loeb and rovanpera.
and fix that damn scoring system!
Great to see holly back with the dirtfish team 🤩
Interesting comments from Thierry the man who's finished second in the WRC more times than any other driver and a team that's had more driver swaps than any other team but as Ogier said its always been the same for all drivers and teams over the years.
Rally needs starting system, where first on the road changes on every superstage. First on championchip points starts the first superstage and then drops second on the row etc. This circling would be done with rally1 one drivers only. This would be easy to handle and wouldn't mess the day too much. And this would be end of this stupid system which we have had so many years on rallying.
That doesn't sounds like easy to handle especially from timing and timing liaison sections.
Colin is right. Neuville is under presure because this year has the best chance to became the champion. Past years didnt complain when hyundai play the game with different drivers. To become the champion you have to be the best in the worst situations. Look of some championships in the past.
On the other side - cant wait what Sesks can do in the rest of the stages. He is my hero this weekend 😊
And we need "more" Holie in the next rallies. What is better than one Scotish - TWO of them 😉
Hello from Slovenia 🇸🇮
WRC Latvia - this is a tip only how we drive :)
The start order system is just not right. Thierry is right. He has to start first for 2 days in a row and is unable to fight for the wIn. In what sport are the top 3 drivers not able to win due to the regulations. Like he said, imagine being Hyundai spending millions to win races and become champion, in the meanwhile parttime drivers can just pick some gravel races, start last and fight for the win. While the 3 main rivals are driving in positions 6, 8 and 9. It"s ridiculous. Toyota have 2 of the best drivers that they can just put on a gravel race, take points away from Thierry. We want to see the best drivers fight for the win every race. I'm a big WRC-fan, but it's not fun to watch this anymore, seeing Thierry driving flatout, no errors, just for 9th place, because he's cleaning the road for others.
There was a year or two when they allowed the shakedown results to pick in order there road position. Out of interest, why did they scrap that? Was it because Ogier started to dominate even more?
That were 2012 & 2013 so Loeb's last and Ogier's first champions. Ogier had that in his first year and after 2013 he started the Generation "Complain". All years before drivers were, like Evans said, just " getting on with it".
When will we see Solberg in a Rally1 car?!
He already was.
Didn’t go well.
Thierry has absolutely no grit. With that attitude of course you are going to struggle
Championship points should not be awarded to competitors who do not contest more than 80 percent (or so) of the events.
It's ridiculous. They can score more points just by winning the last stage on the last day. The first 2 days their dont bother
But how do you know for the first few rallys just who is doing the complete championship?
Leading the championship, first on the road simple. All the past world champions have won this way.
来シーズンのランチア復帰が決まって車検が厳しくなって居るとか居ないとか…？
I have mixed feelings about Neuville. He seems quite grumpy at times & reluctant to give interviews.
The regular drivers are cleaning the roads for the part time drivers. It's ridiculous.
If you want to be a champion - earn it...
…and Hyundai leveraged this for years with their carousel of 3rd drivers. Weirdly Neuville was OK with it then.
Don't they start based on their time. I know they have started by the draw of numbers
what ye thinking, are Rovaperä next king to rally? this year he holiday in rally...
Pardon my ignorance but how do they determine who goes first on the road?
The leader of the championship is first on the road.
@@benjones4365 is that for each day nor just the first?
No wonder they’re not happy with part-time drivers dropping in and taking the good spots
@@axelknutt5065 only on Friday. Then the next days starting order is reversed of the Friday overall standings.
So the crew who leads the rally after Friday starts last on the stages on Saturday. So the slowest one goes first.
Same thing happens on Sunday, but obviously the road order is decided on Saturday’s standings.
If you retire from the day and join the next day again (Super Rally rule), you start first on the road no matter what. This is at least how it works in WRC
@@max27stoner got it, thanks mate
As a Hyundai Motorsport fan, even I found his comments eye-rolling. Thierry must have been obnoxious in school, since hypocrisy is definitely one of the worst human characteristics.
I would say that grumpy drivers aren't anything new. Ogier was the master of it 10 years ago.
Thierry is bang out of order about the young part time drivers. With regard to the senior part time drivers as Hyundai have always used them and team orders far more that the other manufacturers to manipulate points scored and the championship. Shut up and drive the car!!
More fundamental is the pints system is more wrong and broken but actually Hyundai have been the best at playing the Sunday points card but they aren’t mentioning that. Where as the senior pert time aren’t interested in those points they are looking at outright wins.
Ehst is the deal that Munster had no hybrid this time?
hollie is a great host she should be in more videos
So... do you agree or disagree with Thierry Neuville? 👇
I have to disagree here, this has always been a part of the championship and part time drivers winning rallies, example in the 2000s would be Gilles Pannizi, he was really good on tarmac but wasn't good at all on gravel, but since he did part time season, on gravel he would start all the way in the back and end up finishing rallies in the top10. Marcus Gronholm in 2002 started majority of the season 1st on the road, he never complained and always made do with what it is. It's always been like this and the problem in it's self is in WRC. Would WRC should do is have 1 part time car only per team (excluding rookie entries such as Sesks). Also this is amplified due to the calendar being in my opinion overfilled with gravel, next year we will have 9 gravel, 1 snow and 3 1/2 tarmac rounds, because the gravel season lasts from Portugal all the way to Chile, it means if your championship leader you're going to be suffering for 5 months, if a tarmac round could be added before Finland or Latvia (Estonia next year) then this won't be too much of a problem.
Kalle, Loeb, Ogier all had road sweeping duties and still won championships. Thierry should stop complaining and show he can win championships by doing the same
@@djcricket9714 This
Disagree, Thierry is just upset, not everyone can win, Latvala, Hirvonen and many other fast and talented drivers never won championship, it's hard, only super talented and super lucky ones got it
I think his problem is not the cleaning itself, more they give part time drivers (unwilling) the advantage and this obviously looks dumb for the championship as a whole…imagine that’s in F1 as well…so why not switching the part timers ahead in road position?
Neuville, stop whining about being the first car and "clean the road." It's part of the game, when you're leading the championship, like everyone else has. Just deal with it.
To be fair, everyone else that led the championship in the past since this rule is in place, complained about it too... But I guess people have already forgotten that... Neuville isn't the first to complain about it, and certainly won't be the last.
And frankly, I don't really see the problem here. It s*cks to be first on the road in a gravel event (and especially this year we have more of them than in most other seasons), so they can complain about it as much as they want for all I care.
@@tominatorxx I'm well aware that everyone has complained about it at some point, but have also said that it's the rules of the game and not much to do, since it's the same for everyone. Even some of the other drivers reacted to his complaint.
Hyundai is an anemic and toxic constellation of accountants, and some great drivers that are stuck in "tactical monetary management". No style at all, no sport at all, no ethics at all, no fun at all. Would not miss them and their F1 BS in the championship for a second. Good to hear Elfyn raising his voice, and Colin and Hollie are great.
That beautiful and innocent looking young person with you old bastard, is something new and enjoyable to watch! No other channel can make it happen or even have ball's to do something even remotely similar as you and your team have presented to us! Thank you 🙏
Belgian dude being salty for no reason
As Colin said: he’s feeling the pressure. Winning driver imo but he’s in the thick of the season’s run of gravel stages.. still a couple of these left!
Why not clarify road position by a draw, or a "rock - paper - scissor" tournament the evening before?
If you lead nd can go last, it will be unfair. If you lead and have to sweep the road it's unfair. So either swap road position each rally (at this day and age, this would nearly be enough to get every body sweeping once) or randomize it.
i would bet if Teemu was in the car he would have been higher up than Lappi. honestly i'm starting to lose faith in Lappi....
why would you replace bad with dogshit. Have a peak at teemus wrc2 results he is beyond washed, just collecting a paycheck
@@TheFiku Teemu is driving the slowest car by far and is beating Lindholm an ex-WRC2 champion in it. In the Rally1 Teemu was really fast last year. Also Lappi literally won Sweden this year, that was 2 rallies ago for him.
@@Josh_728 yeah, but everytime Teemu got into that car last year, he was on it. i think the team came down on him too hard on his last rally. when i reviewed that video he didnt cut deep into the corner, but something in the ruts broke the steering and sent him off
Neuville the eternal whinger , he does not have the speed of Ogier , Rovenpera , Tanak , so he has to complain about everything except his failure to deliver when it matters 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Thierry is a crybaby. Drive better! Previous champs have done it before, Thierry can do it too, IF he is fast enough.
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The French as always are the softest not to be mean but rally is about the abrasive nature on the mental and on the machine not meant to be easy.
Here we go neuville moa moan moan about everyone else then lets get lapi to back off so he can sweep the roads.what a tosser everything seems to be designed around him yet he slates everyone else as usual
Drivers are himting at two runs per road
Sweep the first run and.dig.in the second run🎉
First?
Nope, you were second.
@@mortaljorma69 :( I think I'll get over it.. some day.
Iv said this before! Hollie McRae should NEVER be seen wearing a DirtFish t shirt! All you DirtFish people should all be wearing a Hollie McRae t shirt! 😝😝😝
A transparent part time drive by drivers choice not a fan of. Commit or let others have it. Big fan of new blood and more teams 🙏. Ogier, Neuville, Evans, Tanak are natural moaners and moody making average interviews!