I will definitely say that's the first speed loaded single action I have ever seen. As for that 7th Commie, I'd suggest hard cast and a well aligned shot.
Yupp. Most people that are talking crap most likely couldn't hit a vital organ on a moving target with 15 +1 at 7 to 10 yards lol with a low recoil cartridge like a 9mm.
I find this technique utterly amazing!! What gets me is people that load 5 AT THE RANGE knowing they are about to shoot. Would one do this against bandits or savages? I think not!! LOVE THIS!!
The SAA in .45 Colt and 44-40 you can do something similar. This idea of resting the hammer between the rims is a hold over from the cap and ball revolvers resting the hammer in a safety notch or on the safety pins between the chambers.
I know the reproduction percussion Colt Navy has a notch in the hammer and pins between chambers for carrying the same way...6 up. I *believe the original Colt Navy did, too...but someone may correct me on that. This method works just fine on this Schofield.
@@plowboysghost The originals also had the safety pins on them. The manhattan firearms company also manufactured colt clones with extra cylinder stop notches to lock for the same reason.
I just sent my cylinder to TK Custom in Illinois and had them mod the cylinder to take .45 ACP on moon clips. Works awesome. Will still take the .45 Colt as well, so now it's dual service. Be sure to get their moon clips specifically for the schofield. I run the same reloads I use in my Webley Mk VI and it shot super tight.
@@mothman-jz8ug Moon clips. I run a shaved Webley and like the speed of that set up. With the mod'd Schofield I can run .45 acp as well as the 45 colt, which I'm reloading for both, but have some decent 45 defense loads I want to try in it. Admittedly not a nescessary thing, but it's a dual caliber platform now.
Great to see someone else who carries a top break. One of my carry weapons is a Smith and Wesson DA 44 that was made in 1883. I never thought about using a speedloader. Now I'm thinking I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the video.
First, you're the first guy I know of to use the words "tactical" and "Schofield" together. You deserve a like for that alone. Have you heard of anyone else doing something like this? My only concern (and I don't own a Schofield--yet) would be that it might be hard on that firing pin in the course of a day as you move around. I'm eager to see how this works out for you.
Thanks! I'm sure I'm not the first person to do it. I'd wager that many were carried that way 100+ years ago. I don't consider there to be any potential for accelerated wear or damage, especially since it's in a holster when I carry it.... where the cylinder can't be moved around any. I thought on it and tested it for months before saying anything about it in a video....so I reckon it'll work out good.
@@plowboysghost Hallelujah,,,Finally someone who has stumbled on the Old Method for full carry..You are only the 2nd person to make a video regarding the subject that i have ever seen..I tire of informing people of this age old method and hearing that the "Cowboy Load" is the ONLY way to carry safely and is the old way it was done..This is untrue and is spread by many,who are considered "Experts" on the subject..This is the way i was taught by old timers when i was young,who had carried single action revolvers,mainly colt single actions and carried for serious everyday use and not for recreation....Thank you and props..I subbed..
Yep, everything can be made "Tactic-Cool" if you try. This is great for all the Tactic-Cool people - You know, the ones whosee themselves as GI Robo-Cop Joe and can't form a complete sentence without the word "tactical" in it. (Might want a tactical Stetson hat when shooting this.)
You're truly a man of innovation, Mr. Plowboy! I think you're on to something there. Will be giving that a try when I get my hands on a Schofield Revolver. Take care and keep thinking and experimenting. I had a .45 Colt question for you but of course it skipped my memory now. I'll write it down next time and keep it near the computer.
Seems like a LOT of things are leaving my memory...or just not sticking. I remember a good bit from when I was a kid...all the way back to a year or two old in the early-mid '70s...for real! I barely remember what I ate for supper yesterday, though....heheh. I appreciate the good word, but I'd bet that others beat me to trying a speedloader for the Schofield. I'd also wager that, in the overlapping years of the S&W No.3 /Schofield and cap and ball revolvers' use and popularity that you could carry with the hammer between chambers.....that back then, a good number of folks probably carried the top-break Smith that way. Just a guess, though..... Thanks, my friend.
@@plowboysghost Oh Yeah, I remembered my question. On the Man With No Name Revolver by Cimarron chambered in .38 Special, Do you know if it could handle .38+P rounds? Not a steady diet of it, just for self-defense if the situation arose?
@@jamesa.7604 I know that it's not rated for +P, but I don't know what an emergency cylinder full of +P's would do to it. The cylinder has plenty of meat around the chambers so I don't know what the issue would be. I load mine with 158-gr Lee bullet over 4.5-gr of Universal...which is right on the verge of +P on most load data that I've seen. I don't know that a few more tenths of a grain of powder, solidly in +P territory, would help that bullet do anything it can't with 4.5-gr....so I've never been tempted to turn .38 Special up for that gun. As a matter of fact...I'd wager that my standard .38 Special load out of the 7.5" MWNN is probably running about the same speed or a hair more than 158-gr .357 Magnum does out of a 2" snubnose.
If there's any doubt, test it with empties like I did. I carried my Schofield to town today right after making and uploading this video....loaded 6-up.
This may have been the intent of Major Schofield himself. There's a lot of Schofield's suggestive correspondence in S&W's period files, and one letter refers to a modification of the firing pin point being beveled on each side, possibly to carry like this. However, there is no mention in Army manuals on this. But it does work if you need that 6th shot!
Undoubtedly Officers and NCOs issued these revolvers loaded up 6 and carried that way as well as civilian professional cognoscenti, like the James Brothers and Texas Rangers and Wells Fargo agents.
To expand on my above comment, in a letter from Major Schofield to D. B. Wesson dated August 4, 1876, he stated "hammer to be beveled so as to drop between the cartridge heads, the arm can then be carried loaded with the hammer down". Recent Uberti's seem to lack a bevel but the hammer nose seems small enough to be used that way. Much safer than using the half-cock "safety notch", since the cylinder is free to turn. Anyone for "Russian Roulette"? lol
@@richardkluesek4301 True. The concept wasn't new, but the application was. Major Schofield took a lot of pride in his pistol and had many ingenious ideas.
If colt were to ever do a repro of the old erstwhile trooper, exposed ejector rod and all, and find a way to pack the cylinder with 8 rounds of 357, I'd go ahead and consider that to be the finalised form of the perfect revolver. Until that day, a model 3 accompanied by a couple speedloaders fits the bill for me.
before the s&w 3rd model, perfected came along (the top break that also had a thumb piece like a regular Smith & Wesson model 10) there was the second and third model in 38 Smith & Wesson and it always struck me with that non-rebounding hammer that the reason why their firing pin was triangular and flat rather than round was precisely for this reason to lock between the rims with higher confidence that a cylinder turn would not jar the pin up over the rim. I also use a regular five shot 38 snubby speed loader for tactical speed loading the little top break as well. And I do the same thing for the Webley 455. Good video!
Damn. That’s solid advice actually. I carry my Cattleman II in 45 colt sometimes with 6 cause of the special firing pin. That’s a good idea for the schofield.
If yours is a Cattleman II, like the Taylor's Smokewagon Deluxe i had, I wouldn't hesitate to load six in it. I carried the one i had that way until I defeated the "safety" system.
@@TaxationIsTheft69420 I took the spring out of the hammer, shortened the actuator rod, and fixed it in the "up" position so that the firing pin would stay fully fixed in the "out" position....like a Colt/Pietta/Old Model uberti/etc... I did a video on it in January of 2019.
@@plowboysghost Ah! Ok. I thought you meant you broke the safety by carrying it and it made me nervous. I carry it on horseback for the last 2 years and have never had an issue even with it bouncing. They’re great guns.
There used to be some revolvers back then that did this on purpose as a safety feature. I can't remember what brand it was but I do remember it had a tiny pocket for the firing pin to rest in.
Great video. This is how I carry most top break revolvers and have for over 45 years with no issues. I still do it in my new Uberti Schofield's even though they have the hammer block safety's. There are just too many safety nannies on the net.
@@duceawj5009 Right now I just use a triple k thier standard 6 gun holster it works well with a small modification. I cut out a small piece so the barrel latch will fit.
I have a Uberti Schofield and I have those speed loaders and I have no problem carrying six in that exact same way, I never e en thought of sharing that info, of course I dont know too many people that have that revolver either.
Well, someone else has discovered my secret. I don't have a Schofield, but I have been using the same technique with some of my other revolvers. They don't have to be single action either. I carry all six chambers loaded in my 2nd model S&W American, my new model #3 Frontier, my 1881 S&W double action Frontier as well as my drawer full of S&W 38 double action top breaks from my 2nd model made in the 1880's to the last model made in 1919. Won't work with the lemon squeezers though. No external hammers. I also carry my Colts in this configuration but it's a little more tricky because they're not top breaks. You have to cock the hammer and, while keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. pull the trigger and gently lower the hammer with your thumb while rotating the cylinder with your other hand until the firing pin comes to rest between two case rims. This works with my Colt Frontier Six Shooter, Colt Bisley Frontier, Colt 1878 double action Frontier, and my 1860 Richards conversion in 44 Colt. Oh, the appellation "Frontier" started with Colt but came to designate any revolver chambered for the 44WCF(44-40) cartridge.
Great video will try the in-between hammer rest …….like you I always had it on an empty chamber with my Schofield before ……have been using the speed loader idea for some time had my 29 and the Schofield on my bench with speed loaders and tried it thinking it wouldn’t work but it did. Excellent channel keep up the good work really enjoy the videos.⚓️🇺🇸
In regards to putting the hammer between cartridges you can do the same to a solid frame revolver at least an 1875 Remington repro. And 38 special speed loaders for six shots work good for British Webley MKIV and Enfield revolvers.
I've got 1 Taylor's conversion cylinder (5@ .45) that has the extra stop notches milled into it to leave it locked in between. The other Taylor's I've got do not have them. Although, on the good one that has extra stops, I did have to hand file the cylinder hand "star notches" on the back of the cylinder to get it to function properly. Was possibly for another manufacturer, but got it working.
I've had my Schofield for about 2 years now and I've been using the same speed loaders for quite a while. I've also got speed strips which while not AS fast often don't have the same issue of the cylinder turning freely when trying to get the speed loader in place. That said, I always carry on 6. The whole reason people used to carry on 5 is not really that relevant to the modern era for a variety of reasons. To each their own I say but no reason to be deprived an extra round.
The putting the firing pin between the cylinders makes me think of the NAA SA derringers where they are designed that way.....As for number 7 or 8 you could either carry that second SA cross draw or left hand or just use a 45 Colt Bond Arms derringer left handed if proficient to fend off any remaining threats while getting that Schofield open and ejected before grabbing the speed loader.....then after reloading that No. 3, you could reload that derringer from a speed strip when you get a chance. I believe the truth is you just love those 45 Colts....Thanks Mr. plowboysghost....
Given that NAA puts actual safety notches on their mini revolvers, I'm surprised none of these top breaks had done something similar to their cylinders. I'd think it a little more reassuring than doing this personally.
You know my dad had thought that a schofield and a speed loader would work. Most of my friends in high school thought I was crazy thinking carry. There guns kept having there guns jammed with what ever guns they owned.
@@plowboysghost I mean I am the black sheep and my friends think that carrying a revolver such as that is dumb and insane and it’s going to be funny to see them have a hard time finding 9mm now and days
@@Texo_McKevo All those who know me have gotten used to me carrying revolvers all the time. What surprised me (and my wife) was just how many young ladies running cash registers really seem to like the "old" guns and the hats/dusters/frocks.....heheheh.
OMG, the "Tactic-Cool" gang have discovered the Schofield. Now they will be donning their tactical running shoes and tactical headgear to rush out and buy one of these. Don't for get to put your tactical pants on in your rush!
Great video!! I assume you’ve already removed the safety bar (which a lot of folks do)…. If the safety bar is still installed, the first click is the safety notch which allows you to carry it the same way as the safety bar is in place until it’s fully cocked. At least that’s how mine works…
It kind of irked me that with single actions you really should only load five for safety but I understood it. SO I got myself a Ruger Vaquero! Then I just had to get an Uberti 1866 rifle too. Looks like I have reconciled my lack of ,45 Colt Cowboy guns. Happy shooting Plowboy!!!
Yep...you're good to go 6-up with a transfer bar. I've had a bunch of 'em and still have one (SBH .44 Mag that was my dad's). On the Colt SAA clones, with fixed firing pin, I'm not going to advise anyone to carry six...but i have tested one or two and have some opinions on that, too. I just don't want to risk advising someone to do something that gets them or someone else hurt. Thanks!
Nice. I have a Schofield but I don't carry it for self defense. But if I ever did chances are it would be 'cause I was expecting a fight and I'd definitely load six.
I have tried this in a Colt clone or two over the years. I haven't really got around to messing with the current Colt clones I have, but I will. I need to come up with creative video concepts to offset the fact that I'm not shooting anything lately. I *may* get into recreating scenes from some of my favorite movies, or something. I've been thinking on that for a long time...and have brothers/kids/friends that would love to help. Of course....we run the risk of "Plowboy goes to Hollywood"....heheheh not :)
I've heard Hickok45 say that decocking from half cock actually wears on the hammer action. At least on the Colt and Colt clones. It's possible that it applies to the Schofield
How's the Schofield treating you these days Plowboy? Any issues at all with it now that you've put some rounds through? I'm considering buying one but I'm just not sure yet.
Great video Plowboy, back in the day Safariland made those speedloader, and what is the make of your new Scholfield. They are mucho dinero up her in Canada so it is on my want list. All your viewers must understand you don't need a 44mag with a 45 Colt in your belt.
This is another Cimarron Schofield. I got it back in April of this year when I traded the S&W 29-10 Classic that is on the table in this video for it new. I think it's "funny" that I ended up with both of them in the end...heheh I saw on Facebook that another youtuber killed a deer with a Cimarron 1860 R-M Conversion .45 Colt a few days ago or so. He was using weaker "cowboy" level Hornady ammo that was a 255-gr. cast bullet at about 725 fps..with one shot at 55-yards. That *should* be near 150-200 fps slower than my handloads with the same weight bullet.
4:31 I had always thought that that was a machining defect on just my gun but I see yours has that oval shaped line etched on the one side with the screws. Do you know why it's there?
Been watching your channel for a while now and love the content. I've been looking at getting a Cimarron Schofield in 45 colt and I was wondering if there was any factory ammo to stay away from (i.e. too much for the gun power wise) I'm new to cowboy action stuff any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you. As far as i know, anything non "+P" is safe for these replicas. I haven't bought factory .45 Colt ammo in years now, so there might be something out there I'm unfamiliar with, but I would run any factory loads that aren't +P. I haven't ran any 300 + gr loads in one, so I can't advise on the heavy, standard pressure stuff.
@@plowboysghost I figured as much, just wanted to do my do diligence and ask around. Hopefully things will slow back down and i'll be able to get some ammo. Ever since watching Unforgiven as a little kid i've always wanted one and after holding and shooting one it sealed the deal. For me at least it feels better than a Colt. Thanks for the reply. Sic Semper Tyrannis
Unforgiven made me notice the Schofield too. I always worried that I might not like the ergonomics, but although completely different than my Colt and remington clones, it actually felt goo in my hand. My local dealer is messing with me, though. He's got a new Spencer carbine on his wall, too.
Hey Plowboy, I was watching this video again and an a question came to mind. Using moon clips, could you shoot .45 ACP in that Schofield? Wish You and Your Family a Safe and Prosperous 2021!
I don't believe so, but I'm not a moon clip savvy kind of guy. With that question, we've exceeded my knowledge. My best to you and yours in the next year, as well!
So I'm looking for a 45 Colt revolver. Single action or double action. What's the best one that you recommend for single action and the best one you recommend for double-action. I'm getting a Uberti winchester model 1873 rifle, and would like a good 45 Colt revolver to go with it. So far my favorite is the Uberti Cattleman, and the long barrel version of the Uberti Cattleman. Both nickel plated, but I'm still looking at others as well. I looked at a Schofield yesterday, and also a Uberti 1871 Colt Navy Open Top and also a Taurus Judge. I'm still undecided on single or double action, and which one would be best for defense. Any suggestions?
I personally prefer a single action in most moods I'm in. The only .45 Colt chambered double action I've ever owned was a Judge magnum...and I didn't keep it long. Nothing "wrong" with it, just didn't fit me. I split my favoritism on barrel lengths of a Colt SAA pattern revolver between 4-3/4" and 7-1/2". I have both, and have had several of each length, but 5.5" just doesn't "fit" me, either. I like the 4-3/4" for crossdraw carry, and 7-1/2" for strong side. I love my Schofield, but you can come within a few dollars of buying 2 Colt clones for the price of one new Schofield. If you really like the Schofield (or LOVE it like me), then it's worth the money. I actually want a Navy gripped Open Top in .45 Colt, myself. With regards to "defense" usage.... I recommend a single action but only if you're comfortable with working on the muscle memory, etc... required to make fast(ish) repeat shots. I have carried a single action revolver 9 times out of 10 that I've carried a sidearm in the last 10 years. I do, however, really like my 4" Model 29 and even my CA Bulldog .44 Spec., so I'm not immune to the draw of a double action.
@@plowboysghost Yeah, at first I was looking into getting a Uberti Cattleman, but I think what I really want is a nickel plated Uberti Schofield 45 colt. I found a few lately, but I'm not really a fan of the blue'd finish, I'm a sucker for nickel plating, ha. So I may just go to Uberti directly to get one since I haven't been able to find one like I want in the right caliber.
@@ProjectRescues my carry gun is a 3.5 in H&R top break chambered in 38 S&W great little vest gun its sa/da and i got my wife an H&R 32 S&W top break both guns are over 100 years old work flawlessly as well as small enough to conceal but still comfortable in the hand as well as being top break so they are faster to reload. I use to carry a small M&P shield simi auto and got away from that when I had a miss fire with a assailant because the pistol was jammed to far in an locked the slide from firing. needless to say i didnt end up shooting the guy and everything worked out great, back up arrived and we got him cuffed, i no longer work law enforcment but that day taught me that sometimes more rounds are not better now all i carry for personal defense is a revolver.
I honestly don't know for certain with the .38 version. I would think it should with a 6-shot speed loader...but I might waste the money and find out I'm wrong.
Only problem with this technique is unless you carry it in a way where you can be sure nothing is going to rub or snag the hammer, it's not too good a practice. I fooled around with this on mine and not very much movement on the hammer and it pulls far enough to slip out from between them.
My Taylors & co dose not work this way. It only locks when the cylinder lines up with the bore. I do use a speed laoder, tried the one I had for my Red Hawk the day I got it.
If you're referring to carrying the hammer down between chambers, the cylinder isn't technically locked up when you carry that way. It won't turn only because the hammer nose is between case rims...not because the bolt is in the notch.
The only? I would have. Is how strong is the firing pen with force working against the side of it? Kind of like sher pen force on a bushhog. If somehow the cylinder gets hit to where it tries to spin with the cartridge rim hiting it will it snap?
I can't imagine that happening ...unless you're holding the hammer forward and turning the cylinder with the other hand TRYING to break it. Even then, I don't know how hard it would be to break it...but it ain't happening without intent.
Cimmaron's The Man With No Name does this, too. Mine has a wiggly firing pin, though. Any thoughts on how to tighten it? Been enjoying your content all year.
I believe about all hammer mounted, fixed firing pin wiggle a little bit. I *think* they are designed that way. I know all I currently own are that way. Just checked mine and yep...it will lock between chambers too. Good deal. Thanks!
What do you think about carrying a colt saa or clone for self defense carry. I personally see nothing wrong with it, especially if you load it the plowboyghost way.
I carry a single action replica revolver nearly every day, and have for years. There are those who wouldn't, but there are also those who don't carry anything at all. There are also those who carry single stack micro-.380's and 9mm's deep in their pockets and feel good about it. Everybody has their own level of sensitivity and own sense of "good enough". Mine just happens to rest on whatever gun I feel best with, so long as the caliber/cartridge is adequate. Some would disagree with what I carry, but then I don't see everyday, rural, northwest Alabama as a potential John Wick-scenario kind of day.
Yo plowboy. Texas Ghost Rider here I have me a Schofield and the speed loaders are actually very slow when you're in a hurry shooting. I have a Smith & Wesson 45 I forgot which model it is, and I use the moon clips and they are very good in that Schofield. How about you give us a video of you using them Moon clips for your six shots.
@@plowboysghost Ok. I think they worked very well. Not 100% sure that the moon clips used for the 45 Smith & Wesson revolvers will work on the Schofield. Not 100% positive at all. So what I would do if I were you, is get some dummy rounds of the same size with that moon clip and see if they fit in or not. At least that's what I would do.
I can a imagine a gang banger saying give me all your money and you pull out a single action with a cigar in your mouth and say would that be in change or lead bang!!!
@@montanamountainmen6104 I believe the movie Unforgiven was the first time I remember hearing the name "Schofield". I thought about them only when I'd see a top break S&W at a gun show over the decades...until I got into Cimarrons and started seeing them. It took awhile for me to jump on one, though....having never handled one and their costing twice as much as what I'd been buying up til then. I'm hung on them, now.
I wouldn't do that, because the cylinder is being held in place by the firing pin, if IF? the cylinder should receive a blow (dropped or what ever?) the firing pin might get bent or broken. On these old guns I would stick to leaving an empty chamber under the hammer.
@@christopherblowers2991 The guy is talking about having the cylinder turned as not to allow the hammer to rest on a live primer, did you watch the video?, did you understand the video?. That means the firing pin is holding the cylinder from turning, this is not a good way to carry a firearm .
@@christopherblowers2991 My point!!!!!!!!!!!! is if the cylinder is turned while the hammer is between the cylinders the only thing to stop the cylinder from turning is the FIREING PIN!!, can you grasp this?, if a blow on the cylinder strikes the cylinder the tip of the firing pin will take the blunt of the blow, how hard is this to understand???, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA CARRYING A GUN IN THIS CONDITION !!.
I have to say that the S&W Scholfield is honestly the most beautiful handgun that was ever made.
it looks slick yet has a lot of moving metal parts which is what gun lovers love to just see.
I will definitely say that's the first speed loaded single action I have ever seen.
As for that 7th Commie, I'd suggest hard cast and a well aligned shot.
That should work. Over penetration, like overkill......is underrated :)
@@plowboysghost Or a saber.
@@alswann2702 I have an original 1840 heavy cavalry saber, thanks to one of my boys.
For all the people out there saying that the revolver is a terrible carry option let me remind you it only takes one especially with 45 Colt.
Yupp. Most people that are talking crap most likely couldn't hit a vital organ on a moving target with 15 +1 at 7 to 10 yards lol with a low recoil cartridge like a 9mm.
Who'd a thought a speedloader would work with a break top? Made up my mind, I want a Scholfield!
I find this technique utterly amazing!! What gets me is people that load 5 AT THE RANGE knowing they are about to shoot. Would one do this against bandits or savages? I think not!! LOVE THIS!!
That’s some pretty good thinking there.
Thank you.
The SAA in .45 Colt and 44-40 you can do something similar. This idea of resting the hammer between the rims is a hold over from the cap and ball revolvers resting the hammer in a safety notch or on the safety pins between the chambers.
I always enjoyed the story of the California gold miner who slew six road agents with a Colt dispatched the seventh with a Bowie.
Excellent thoughts sir. Of course this always works on singe action 38s and 32-20s but not seen it done on a 45LC; well done indeed.
I mean they did it back in the day with navy revolvers why haven’t they done it with any other single action revolver
I know the reproduction percussion Colt Navy has a notch in the hammer and pins between chambers for carrying the same way...6 up. I *believe the original Colt Navy did, too...but someone may correct me on that.
This method works just fine on this Schofield.
@@plowboysghost The originals also had the safety pins on them. The manhattan firearms company also manufactured colt clones with extra cylinder stop notches to lock for the same reason.
@@coltonregal1797 Good deal.
Because your firing pin is resting on hard steel. Let it fall one good time and your gonna need a new pin.
Your pfp is amazing
I just sent my cylinder to TK Custom in Illinois and had them mod the cylinder to take .45 ACP on moon clips. Works awesome. Will still take the .45 Colt as well, so now it's dual service. Be sure to get their moon clips specifically for the schofield. I run the same reloads I use in my Webley Mk VI and it shot super tight.
Sweet!
@@plowboysghost Yea, it's a pretty cool mod.
Now you can, but why would you want to???
@@mothman-jz8ug Moon clips. I run a shaved Webley and like the speed of that set up. With the mod'd Schofield I can run .45 acp as well as the 45 colt, which I'm reloading for both, but have some decent 45 defense loads I want to try in it.
Admittedly not a nescessary thing, but it's a dual caliber platform now.
Great to see someone else who carries a top break. One of my carry weapons is a Smith and Wesson DA 44 that was made in 1883. I never thought about using a speedloader. Now I'm thinking I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the video.
Thank you.
Good discovery placing the firing pin between the cases, would test this at the range a few times before carrying that way, agree with you.
I believe one of the fellers on the 11BangBang channel has found historic reference to carry of the originals in this manner, back in the day.
First, you're the first guy I know of to use the words "tactical" and "Schofield" together. You deserve a like for that alone. Have you heard of anyone else doing something like this? My only concern (and I don't own a Schofield--yet) would be that it might be hard on that firing pin in the course of a day as you move around. I'm eager to see how this works out for you.
Thanks!
I'm sure I'm not the first person to do it. I'd wager that many were carried that way 100+ years ago.
I don't consider there to be any potential for accelerated wear or damage, especially since it's in a holster when I carry it.... where the cylinder can't be moved around any. I thought on it and tested it for months before saying anything about it in a video....so I reckon it'll work out good.
@@plowboysghost Hallelujah,,,Finally someone who has stumbled on the Old Method for full carry..You are only the 2nd person to make a video regarding the subject that i have ever seen..I tire of informing people of this age old method and hearing that the "Cowboy Load" is the ONLY way to carry safely and is the old way it was done..This is untrue and is spread by many,who are considered "Experts" on the subject..This is the way i was taught by old timers when i was young,who had carried single action revolvers,mainly colt single actions and carried for serious everyday use and not for recreation....Thank you and props..I subbed..
@@TightwadToddSame. Subscribed. I was looking for confirmation on this very thing (carry on six), plus the speedloader use...lol
Thanks.
Yep, everything can be made "Tactic-Cool" if you try. This is great for all the Tactic-Cool people - You know, the ones whosee themselves as GI Robo-Cop Joe and can't form a complete sentence without the word "tactical" in it. (Might want a tactical Stetson hat when shooting this.)
You're truly a man of innovation, Mr. Plowboy! I think you're on to something there. Will be giving that a try when I get my hands on a Schofield Revolver. Take care and keep thinking and experimenting. I had a .45 Colt question for you but of course it skipped my memory now. I'll write it down next time and keep it near the computer.
Seems like a LOT of things are leaving my memory...or just not sticking. I remember a good bit from when I was a kid...all the way back to a year or two old in the early-mid '70s...for real!
I barely remember what I ate for supper yesterday, though....heheh.
I appreciate the good word, but I'd bet that others beat me to trying a speedloader for the Schofield. I'd also wager that, in the overlapping years of the S&W No.3 /Schofield and cap and ball revolvers' use and popularity that you could carry with the hammer between chambers.....that back then, a good number of folks probably carried the top-break Smith that way. Just a guess, though.....
Thanks, my friend.
@@plowboysghost Oh Yeah, I remembered my question. On the Man With No Name Revolver by Cimarron chambered in .38 Special, Do you know if it could handle .38+P rounds? Not a steady diet of it, just for self-defense if the situation arose?
@@jamesa.7604 I know that it's not rated for +P, but I don't know what an emergency cylinder full of +P's would do to it. The cylinder has plenty of meat around the chambers so I don't know what the issue would be.
I load mine with 158-gr Lee bullet over 4.5-gr of Universal...which is right on the verge of +P on most load data that I've seen. I don't know that a few more tenths of a grain of powder, solidly in +P territory, would help that bullet do anything it can't with 4.5-gr....so I've never been tempted to turn .38 Special up for that gun.
As a matter of fact...I'd wager that my standard .38 Special load out of the 7.5" MWNN is probably running about the same speed or a hair more than 158-gr .357 Magnum does out of a 2" snubnose.
That's actually a pretty Interesting point it seems to be solid I'll have to try it
If there's any doubt, test it with empties like I did. I carried my Schofield to town today right after making and uploading this video....loaded 6-up.
@@plowboysghost I will.
thank you plowboy.
This may have been the intent of Major Schofield himself. There's a lot of Schofield's suggestive correspondence in S&W's period files, and one letter refers to a modification of the firing pin point being beveled on each side, possibly to carry like this. However, there is no mention in Army manuals on this. But it does work if you need that 6th shot!
Undoubtedly Officers and NCOs issued these revolvers loaded up 6 and carried that way as well as civilian professional cognoscenti, like the James Brothers and Texas Rangers and Wells Fargo agents.
To expand on my above comment, in a letter from Major Schofield to D. B. Wesson dated August 4, 1876, he stated "hammer to be beveled so as to drop between the cartridge heads, the arm can then be carried loaded with the hammer down". Recent Uberti's seem to lack a bevel but the hammer nose seems small enough to be used that way. Much safer than using the half-cock "safety notch", since the cylinder is free to turn. Anyone for "Russian Roulette"? lol
@@samwalker7821 Reminiscent of the system on percussion cap 'n ball revolvers, positioning a hammer down between 2 capped chambers.
@@richardkluesek4301 True. The concept wasn't new, but the application was. Major Schofield took a lot of pride in his pistol and had many ingenious ideas.
If colt were to ever do a repro of the old erstwhile trooper, exposed ejector rod and all, and find a way to pack the cylinder with 8 rounds of 357, I'd go ahead and consider that to be the finalised form of the perfect revolver. Until that day, a model 3 accompanied by a couple speedloaders fits the bill for me.
I knew about the carrying 6 between cases, but I'm glad to know the HKS #29 speedloaders work. I shall go procure some forthwith. Thanks!
Thank you!
if these things were double action and in .44 special/magnum then they would be the king of firearms
Can’t believe more people haven’t thought of this. Good job 👍🏻
This is why I would have carried a Schofield if I could back in the day
before the s&w 3rd model, perfected came along (the top break that also had a thumb piece like a regular Smith & Wesson model 10) there was the second and third model in 38 Smith & Wesson and it always struck me with that non-rebounding hammer that the reason why their firing pin was triangular and flat rather than round was precisely for this reason to lock between the rims with higher confidence that a cylinder turn would not jar the pin up over the rim. I also use a regular five shot 38 snubby speed loader for tactical speed loading the little top break as well. And I do the same thing for the Webley 455. Good video!
Damn. That’s solid advice actually. I carry my Cattleman II in 45 colt sometimes with 6 cause of the special firing pin. That’s a good idea for the schofield.
If yours is a Cattleman II, like the Taylor's Smokewagon Deluxe i had, I wouldn't hesitate to load six in it. I carried the one i had that way until I defeated the "safety" system.
@@plowboysghost defeated the safety system? What do you mean?
@@TaxationIsTheft69420 I took the spring out of the hammer, shortened the actuator rod, and fixed it in the "up" position so that the firing pin would stay fully fixed in the "out" position....like a Colt/Pietta/Old Model uberti/etc...
I did a video on it in January of 2019.
@@plowboysghost Ah! Ok. I thought you meant you broke the safety by carrying it and it made me nervous. I carry it on horseback for the last 2 years and have never had an issue even with it bouncing. They’re great guns.
You addressed the only concern I had. Brilliant design!
Never thought of that, sounds like a good idea. I did not know if it was possible, but I would give it a try.
Great observation ! Thank you for passing it along.
Been doing the same thing for awhile. And dealing with 7 means having 2 Schofields. Hahaha
10-4!
There used to be some revolvers back then that did this on purpose as a safety feature. I can't remember what brand it was but I do remember it had a tiny pocket for the firing pin to rest in.
It was an addition to colt patent revolvers in the 1850’s-1860’s and then everyone copied them pretty much
Great video. This is how I carry most top break revolvers and have for over 45 years with no issues. I still do it in my new Uberti Schofield's even though they have the hammer block safety's. There are just too many safety nannies on the net.
What holster do you use?
@@duceawj5009 Right now I just use a triple k thier standard 6 gun holster it works well with a small modification. I cut out a small piece so the barrel latch will fit.
they added hammer block safeties?
@@marblemarble7113 Wow it took 7 months to get a bite. Amazing. Yeah you carry it with your thumb under the hammer. Hammer block safety, get it?
@@spiritualawakenings6251 lol
I have a Uberti Schofield and I have those speed loaders and I have no problem carrying six in that exact same way, I never e en thought of sharing that info, of course I dont know too many people that have that revolver either.
Very interesting discovery...I will check this out on mine. Thank you for another fine video.
Thank you.
Well, someone else has discovered my secret. I don't have a Schofield, but I have been using the same technique with some of my other revolvers. They don't have to be single action either. I carry all six chambers loaded in my 2nd model S&W American, my new model #3 Frontier, my 1881 S&W double action Frontier as well as my drawer full of S&W 38 double action top breaks from my 2nd model made in the 1880's to the last model made in 1919. Won't work with the lemon squeezers though. No external hammers. I also carry my Colts in this configuration but it's a little more tricky because they're not top breaks. You have to cock the hammer and, while keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. pull the trigger and gently lower the hammer with your thumb while rotating the cylinder with your other hand until the firing pin comes to rest between two case rims. This works with my Colt Frontier Six Shooter, Colt Bisley Frontier, Colt 1878 double action Frontier, and my 1860 Richards conversion in 44 Colt. Oh, the appellation "Frontier" started with Colt but came to designate any revolver chambered for the 44WCF(44-40) cartridge.
Thanks for the video. Have a Merry Christmas!
Thank you...and Merry Christmas to you, as well.
Great video will try the in-between hammer rest …….like you I always had it on an empty chamber with my Schofield before ……have been using the speed loader idea for some time had my 29 and the Schofield on my bench with speed loaders and tried it thinking it wouldn’t work but it did. Excellent channel keep up the good work really enjoy the videos.⚓️🇺🇸
Thank you
That is absolutely brilliant. Thanks.
In regards to putting the hammer between cartridges you can do the same to a solid frame revolver at least an 1875 Remington repro. And 38 special speed loaders for six shots work good for British Webley MKIV and Enfield revolvers.
was lucky enough to get a speed loader for 45 colt they work great thanks to you enjoy
Thanks for sharing this, I was wondering forever what speedloader was compatible with the Model 3. The bit about safely carrying 6 is handy to know.
@@chrisloUSA Thanks 👍
That just decided me, been wanted a No. 3 for years, ordering one now.
I've got 1 Taylor's conversion cylinder (5@ .45) that has the extra stop notches milled into it to leave it locked in between. The other Taylor's I've got do not have them. Although, on the good one that has extra stops, I did have to hand file the cylinder hand "star notches" on the back of the cylinder to get it to function properly. Was possibly for another manufacturer, but got it working.
I've had my Schofield for about 2 years now and I've been using the same speed loaders for quite a while. I've also got speed strips which while not AS fast often don't have the same issue of the cylinder turning freely when trying to get the speed loader in place. That said, I always carry on 6. The whole reason people used to carry on 5 is not really that relevant to the modern era for a variety of reasons. To each their own I say but no reason to be deprived an extra round.
The putting the firing pin between the cylinders makes me think of the NAA SA derringers where they are designed that way.....As for number 7 or 8 you could either carry that second SA cross draw or left hand or just use a 45 Colt Bond Arms derringer left handed if proficient to fend off any remaining threats while getting that Schofield open and ejected before grabbing the speed loader.....then after reloading that No. 3, you could reload that derringer from a speed strip when you get a chance. I believe the truth is you just love those 45 Colts....Thanks Mr. plowboysghost....
I have been accused of favoring a .45 Colt....and i really don't try to defend myself from the charge...heheheh
Thanks!
Excellent video.
It's a cool designed gun, thanks for the tech tips..
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Given that NAA puts actual safety notches on their mini revolvers, I'm surprised none of these top breaks had done something similar to their cylinders. I'd think it a little more reassuring than doing this personally.
You know my dad had thought that a schofield and a speed loader would work.
Most of my friends in high school thought I was crazy thinking carry. There guns kept having there guns jammed with what ever guns they owned.
Now....you MIGHT be crazy....right along with me.....heheheh.
I love my single actions, and they go with me 9 times out of 10.
@@plowboysghost I mean I am the black sheep and my friends think that carrying a revolver such as that is dumb and insane and it’s going to be funny to see them have a hard time finding 9mm now and days
@@Texo_McKevo All those who know me have gotten used to me carrying revolvers all the time. What surprised me (and my wife) was just how many young ladies running cash registers really seem to like the "old" guns and the hats/dusters/frocks.....heheheh.
There’s an outfit called TK custom that will cut the cylinder for moon clips. Pretty handy.
That and a couple N frame speed loaders and we have the true tactical Cowpoke.
Or...a true tactical shootist/outlaw/etc...
I don't own any cows.
OMG, the "Tactic-Cool" gang have discovered the Schofield. Now they will be donning their tactical running shoes and tactical headgear to rush out and buy one of these. Don't for get to put your tactical pants on in your rush!
Hehe ...appendix carried Schofield with a plate carrier🤣
Outstanding!
Great video!! I assume you’ve already removed the safety bar (which a lot of folks do)…. If the safety bar is still installed, the first click is the safety notch which allows you to carry it the same way as the safety bar is in place until it’s fully cocked. At least that’s how mine works…
Yeah, I have a small collection of Uberti Schofield safeties in a glass :)
Thanks!
Good advice
It kind of irked me that with single actions you really should only load five for safety but I understood it. SO I got myself a Ruger Vaquero! Then I just had to get an Uberti 1866 rifle too. Looks like I have reconciled my lack of ,45 Colt Cowboy guns. Happy shooting Plowboy!!!
Yep...you're good to go 6-up with a transfer bar. I've had a bunch of 'em and still have one (SBH .44 Mag that was my dad's).
On the Colt SAA clones, with fixed firing pin, I'm not going to advise anyone to carry six...but i have tested one or two and have some opinions on that, too. I just don't want to risk advising someone to do something that gets them or someone else hurt.
Thanks!
Great tip
I've done this as well. But I would love them to make an 1875 Remington "Outlaw" with a transfer bar. Is that too much to ask for?
Nice. I have a Schofield but I don't carry it for self defense. But if I ever did chances are it would be 'cause I was expecting a fight and I'd definitely load six.
I seen muskrat outdoors do the same thing with a regular 73 style colt, I think it would work the old cap and ball revolver‘s did a similar thing
I have tried this in a Colt clone or two over the years. I haven't really got around to messing with the current Colt clones I have, but I will.
I need to come up with creative video concepts to offset the fact that I'm not shooting anything lately.
I *may* get into recreating scenes from some of my favorite movies, or something. I've been thinking on that for a long time...and have brothers/kids/friends that would love to help.
Of course....we run the risk of "Plowboy goes to Hollywood"....heheheh
not :)
Yes He did and was the first video i ever saw,that dispels the myth...
I've heard Hickok45 say that decocking from half cock actually wears on the hammer action. At least on the Colt and Colt clones. It's possible that it applies to the Schofield
He's wrong. There's no more wear decocking than cocking.
Wow, who would of thunk! Going to see if this works on my Uberti Birds Head.
I like it.
Awesome
Need a modern version with a transfer bar.
How's the Schofield treating you these days Plowboy? Any issues at all with it now that you've put some rounds through? I'm considering buying one but I'm just not sure yet.
I traded the last one off last year, but I love the Schofield.
nice firearm to play with on the range , cool design. Looking to purchase one myself.
as far a carry every day carry , not for me ya'll
Cowboys versus Commies!
Dang right!
Great video Plowboy, back in the day Safariland made those speedloader, and what is the make of your new Scholfield. They are mucho dinero up her in Canada so it is on my want list. All your viewers must understand you don't need a 44mag with a 45 Colt in your belt.
This is another Cimarron Schofield. I got it back in April of this year when I traded the S&W 29-10 Classic that is on the table in this video for it new. I think it's "funny" that I ended up with both of them in the end...heheh
I saw on Facebook that another youtuber killed a deer with a Cimarron 1860 R-M Conversion .45 Colt a few days ago or so. He was using weaker "cowboy" level Hornady ammo that was a 255-gr. cast bullet at about 725 fps..with one shot at 55-yards.
That *should* be near 150-200 fps slower than my handloads with the same weight bullet.
You can get it milled for moon clips too
4:31 I had always thought that that was a machining defect on just my gun but I see yours has that oval shaped line etched on the one side with the screws. Do you know why it's there?
Been watching your channel for a while now and love the content. I've been looking at getting a Cimarron Schofield in 45 colt and I was wondering if there was any factory ammo to stay away from (i.e. too much for the gun power wise) I'm new to cowboy action stuff any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
As far as i know, anything non "+P" is safe for these replicas. I haven't bought factory .45 Colt ammo in years now, so there might be something out there I'm unfamiliar with, but I would run any factory loads that aren't +P.
I haven't ran any 300 + gr loads in one, so I can't advise on the heavy, standard pressure stuff.
@@plowboysghost I figured as much, just wanted to do my do diligence and ask around. Hopefully things will slow back down and i'll be able to get some ammo. Ever since watching Unforgiven as a little kid i've always wanted one and after holding and shooting one it sealed the deal. For me at least it feels better than a Colt. Thanks for the reply. Sic Semper Tyrannis
Unforgiven made me notice the Schofield too. I always worried that I might not like the ergonomics, but although completely different than my Colt and remington clones, it actually felt goo in my hand.
My local dealer is messing with me, though. He's got a new Spencer carbine on his wall, too.
@@plowboysghost Thats another gun on my list but just a bit too pricey for what it is. Maybe one day.
Hey Plowboy, I was watching this video again and an a question came to mind. Using moon clips, could you shoot .45 ACP in that Schofield? Wish You and Your Family a Safe and Prosperous 2021!
I don't believe so, but I'm not a moon clip savvy kind of guy. With that question, we've exceeded my knowledge.
My best to you and yours in the next year, as well!
I thought I was the only one who did this with my 1873 revolvers, but some times I have to file off some of the rim.
Jeff from Gunblast had one cut for moon clips =AWESOME!!!
Heck yeah.
Jeff unfortunately passed recently 😢
@@soylentgreen7074 I saw that! He was great!!!
So I'm looking for a 45 Colt revolver. Single action or double action. What's the best one that you recommend for single action and the best one you recommend for double-action. I'm getting a Uberti winchester model 1873 rifle, and would like a good 45 Colt revolver to go with it. So far my favorite is the Uberti Cattleman, and the long barrel version of the Uberti Cattleman. Both nickel plated, but I'm still looking at others as well. I looked at a Schofield yesterday, and also a Uberti 1871 Colt Navy Open Top and also a Taurus Judge. I'm still undecided on single or double action, and which one would be best for defense. Any suggestions?
I personally prefer a single action in most moods I'm in. The only .45 Colt chambered double action I've ever owned was a Judge magnum...and I didn't keep it long. Nothing "wrong" with it, just didn't fit me.
I split my favoritism on barrel lengths of a Colt SAA pattern revolver between 4-3/4" and 7-1/2". I have both, and have had several of each length, but 5.5" just doesn't "fit" me, either. I like the 4-3/4" for crossdraw carry, and 7-1/2" for strong side.
I love my Schofield, but you can come within a few dollars of buying 2 Colt clones for the price of one new Schofield. If you really like the Schofield (or LOVE it like me), then it's worth the money. I actually want a Navy gripped Open Top in .45 Colt, myself.
With regards to "defense" usage.... I recommend a single action but only if you're comfortable with working on the muscle memory, etc... required to make fast(ish) repeat shots. I have carried a single action revolver 9 times out of 10 that I've carried a sidearm in the last 10 years. I do, however, really like my 4" Model 29 and even my CA Bulldog .44 Spec., so I'm not immune to the draw of a double action.
@@plowboysghost Yeah, at first I was looking into getting a Uberti Cattleman, but I think what I really want is a nickel plated Uberti Schofield 45 colt. I found a few lately, but I'm not really a fan of the blue'd finish, I'm a sucker for nickel plating, ha. So I may just go to Uberti directly to get one since I haven't been able to find one like I want in the right caliber.
@@ProjectRescues my carry gun is a 3.5 in H&R top break chambered in 38 S&W great little vest gun its sa/da and i got my wife an H&R 32 S&W top break both guns are over 100 years old work flawlessly as well as small enough to conceal but still comfortable in the hand as well as being top break so they are faster to reload. I use to carry a small M&P shield simi auto and got away from that when I had a miss fire with a assailant because the pistol was jammed to far in an locked the slide from firing. needless to say i didnt end up shooting the guy and everything worked out great, back up arrived and we got him cuffed, i no longer work law enforcment but that day taught me that sometimes more rounds are not better now all i carry for personal defense is a revolver.
That looks like a Charter Arms to your right. Are you going to make a video on that one?
This was back when men were men and women were glad of it.
You got that right!
North American Arms, does this same method with their revolvers. They built a notch into the cylinder, for that purpose!
Ordered a Schofield in .38 Special. Do you think a regular old .38 special speedloader will work with the Schofield?
I honestly don't know for certain with the .38 version. I would think it should with a 6-shot speed loader...but I might waste the money and find out I'm wrong.
Only problem with this technique is unless you carry it in a way where you can be sure nothing is going to rub or snag the hammer, it's not too good a practice. I fooled around with this on mine and not very much movement on the hammer and it pulls far enough to slip out from between them.
My Taylors & co dose not work this way. It only locks when the cylinder lines up with the bore. I do use a speed laoder, tried the one I had for my Red Hawk the day I got it.
If you're referring to carrying the hammer down between chambers, the cylinder isn't technically locked up when you carry that way. It won't turn only because the hammer nose is between case rims...not because the bolt is in the notch.
My every day carry is a single action six and that's how I carry.
You show a lot of the Schofield, is it your favorite?
Seems like it. I carry my Colt SAA and Remington clones more often, but I believe the Schofield is my favorite.
mighty good ideal..:)
The only? I would have. Is how strong is the firing pen with force working against the side of it?
Kind of like sher pen force on a bushhog.
If somehow the cylinder gets hit to where it tries to spin with the cartridge rim hiting it will it snap?
I can't imagine that happening ...unless you're holding the hammer forward and turning the cylinder with the other hand TRYING to break it.
Even then, I don't know how hard it would be to break it...but it ain't happening without intent.
Cimmaron's The Man With No Name does this, too. Mine has a wiggly firing pin, though. Any thoughts on how to tighten it? Been enjoying your content all year.
I believe about all hammer mounted, fixed firing pin wiggle a little bit. I *think* they are designed that way. I know all I currently own are that way.
Just checked mine and yep...it will lock between chambers too. Good deal. Thanks!
You can lower the hammer on the MWNN in between chambers?
What do you think about carrying a colt saa or clone for self defense carry. I personally see nothing wrong with it, especially if you load it the plowboyghost way.
I carry a single action replica revolver nearly every day, and have for years.
There are those who wouldn't, but there are also those who don't carry anything at all. There are also those who carry single stack micro-.380's and 9mm's deep in their pockets and feel good about it.
Everybody has their own level of sensitivity and own sense of "good enough". Mine just happens to rest on whatever gun I feel best with, so long as the caliber/cartridge is adequate.
Some would disagree with what I carry, but then I don't see everyday, rural, northwest Alabama as a potential John Wick-scenario kind of day.
@@plowboysghost great reply, thank you
That's how Brits disigned their Bulldogs and such to carry back then
Strangely i considered this as a carry revolver
the dreaded seventh comi and the Schofield
THE SCHOFIELD HAS A HAMMER-CYLINDER SAFETY FEATURE?
Yo plowboy. Texas Ghost Rider here I have me a Schofield and the speed loaders are actually very slow when you're in a hurry shooting. I have a Smith & Wesson 45 I forgot which model it is, and I use the moon clips and they are very good in that Schofield. How about you give us a video of you using them Moon clips for your six shots.
I've never owned or used moon clips.
@@plowboysghost
Ok.
I think they worked very well. Not 100% sure that the moon clips used for the 45 Smith & Wesson revolvers will work on the Schofield. Not 100% positive at all. So what I would do if I were you, is get some dummy rounds of the same size with that moon clip and see if they fit in or not. At least that's what I would do.
I can a imagine a gang banger saying give me all your money and you pull out a single action with a cigar in your mouth and say would that be in change or lead bang!!!
Exactly! :)
GOT to not only stop the BS in it's tracks....but be stylish and memorable while doing it.
Old habits die hard, I still today in all revolvers load only 5 with the hammer on a dead cylinder.
Some need to be loaded that way. Uberti built Schofields seem to be the exception to that rule.
@@plowboysghost Well sadly I never fired one, always wanted one after watching 3:10 to Yuma with Russel Crowe.
@@montanamountainmen6104 I believe the movie Unforgiven was the first time I remember hearing the name "Schofield". I thought about them only when I'd see a top break S&W at a gun show over the decades...until I got into Cimarrons and started seeing them.
It took awhile for me to jump on one, though....having never handled one and their costing twice as much as what I'd been buying up til then. I'm hung on them, now.
@@plowboysghost Well I had a Schofield 44-40 in my hand until I saw the $1200 price tag.
@@montanamountainmen6104 I understand that.
Have the russian one in 45 colt i carry it the same way
Seven ne'er-do-wells coming at you when you're carrying a 6-shooter is going to be a bad day, even if it's a double action. ☹️
Yep. Thankfully, such scenarios in the civilian world are exceedingly rare.
Lol and that was when Jim "plowboy" bowie pulled his knife and and bond arms 45 and went to work.
I've been carrying my cartridge conversion revolvers that way for years, if it hold 6 I load 6.
If someone had the 38spl I wonder which speedloader they'd have
Not sure...but I'd expect one of the common 6rd .357/.38 revolver speedloaders to work.
I've read that the 27 A works ok...
Now all you got to do is find one in stock.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Pronounced “Showfield”
I wouldn't do that, because the cylinder is being held in place by the firing pin, if IF? the cylinder should receive a blow (dropped or what ever?) the firing pin might get bent or broken. On these old guns I would stick to leaving an empty chamber under the hammer.
In schofield revolvers there's a mechanism attached the trigger that holds the cylinder, not the hammer
@@christopherblowers2991 The guy is talking about having the cylinder turned as not to allow the hammer to rest on a live primer, did you watch the video?, did you understand the video?. That means the firing pin is holding the cylinder from turning, this is not a good way to carry a firearm .
@@NCLUSA I have a schofield, there's space between the hammer and the cylinder even if you have the hammer the whole way down
@@christopherblowers2991 My point!!!!!!!!!!!! is if the cylinder is turned while the hammer is between the cylinders the only thing to stop the cylinder from turning is the FIREING PIN!!, can you grasp this?, if a blow on the cylinder strikes the cylinder the tip of the firing pin will take the blunt of the blow, how hard is this to understand???, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA CARRYING A GUN IN THIS CONDITION !!.
How much you want for that Schofields 45??
Ain't fer sale :)
@@plowboysghost
Ok.
If you change your mind I'll pay top dollar for it.
@@texasghostrider9644 I appreciate the offer.