F 2154 Ryan Aeronautical high energy forming

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Film donated by the Ryan Aeronautical Company to the San Diego Air and Space Museum in the 1990s.
    From the archives of the San Diego Air and Space Museum www.sandiegoair... Please do not use for commercial purposes without permission.

Komentáře • 104

  • @josephastier7421
    @josephastier7421 Před 3 lety +14

    The 1950s were a wonderful convergence of WWII technology, civilian jobs, and a nearly complete absence of rules.

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201 Před 2 lety +5

    This intersection of Wile E. Coyote cartoons and aero engineering warms the very cockles of my heart.

  • @AUXdrone
    @AUXdrone Před 3 lety +12

    Nothin but slide rules and cigarettes. Different breed, love it. 4:57

  • @georgewhitehead8185
    @georgewhitehead8185 Před 3 lety +15

    My late father in law used to work at Ryan, and because of him, I got to have a tour of their facility. Wow, what a wonderful experience for me.

    • @AncientAir
      @AncientAir Před rokem +1

      Wonderful to hear! I’m envious! Im related to T. Claude Ryan, but was unable to ever meet him because he passed before I was born.

  • @raoulcruz4404
    @raoulcruz4404 Před 7 lety +60

    Using dynamite to form sheetmetal. Kewl. Tim the Toolman would be proud.

  • @billthebillder2337
    @billthebillder2337 Před 3 lety +20

    Thats my old General Dynamics, Lindbergh Field in the background. Pacific Highway, San Diego

    • @Bramon83
      @Bramon83 Před 3 lety +1

      I was wondering where that was

  • @wyatt5580
    @wyatt5580 Před 3 lety +59

    I clicked on one of these videos and now I just keep seeing them.

    • @kennyg1358
      @kennyg1358 Před 3 lety +9

      Count me as a fellow member of the club.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton Před 3 lety +4

      CZcams thinks if you watch one video of some type that you want to watch ALL videos of that type. Give it a few days of watching other stuff and it will mostly forget.

    • @grrrexky
      @grrrexky Před 3 lety +2

      same

    • @BigBadDodge4x4
      @BigBadDodge4x4 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm on the same ride! I'm just glad I'm not getting the " Office 97 training" videos anymore... Do a search for " The office" and click wrong link. Thats a boring rabbit hole.

    • @Dunewarrior00
      @Dunewarrior00 Před 3 lety +5

      This is the exact opposite of a problem!

  • @danielramsey1959
    @danielramsey1959 Před 3 lety +16

    Gives me a few ideas of a custom Cybertruck. ...now with curves.

  • @bretzeletouffeur7401
    @bretzeletouffeur7401 Před 3 lety +10

    You can also use C4 to unbend your car after an accident, but I would not recommend using more than 2 grams because on my first try I bent the chassis.

  • @d.jensen5153
    @d.jensen5153 Před 3 lety +11

    Explosive forming of Hastelloy X - where an immovable object meets an irresistible force.

    • @africanelectron751
      @africanelectron751 Před 3 lety

      The trick with hastaloy is to sneak up on it from behind and wham slam the ceramic insert in hard and fast so it doesn't have time to laugh at you... Explosive would be pretty good too.

  • @MrSaemichlaus
    @MrSaemichlaus Před 3 lety +19

    This is basically the same as hydroforming, but with the explosives producing a very short spike of pressure and the process somewhat relying on the setup being held in place by inertia to some degree.

    • @MrSaemichlaus
      @MrSaemichlaus Před 3 lety +2

      @EZ Z True. I was thinking the air simply had to be removed in order to not cause counterpressure during the explosion, but I see now, it also holds the part in place.

    • @juuk3103
      @juuk3103 Před 3 lety +3

      It IS hydroforming

  • @ralphiewigs2208
    @ralphiewigs2208 Před 3 lety +6

    What a great day at work.

  • @superdupergrover9857
    @superdupergrover9857 Před 3 lety +24

    It's astounding that this can actually be an economical process.

    • @w8stral
      @w8stral Před 3 lety +7

      Many of your pots and pans that have bimetal are formed explosively.

    • @sealpiercing8476
      @sealpiercing8476 Před 3 lety +6

      A bit of explosive is in a similar weight class as a giant-ass press. Also it seems like explosive forming is better behaved in several important ways.

    • @ph11p3540
      @ph11p3540 Před 3 lety +9

      @@w8stral You are not just talking forming a part to shape but making it slam into another part so fast it welds itself to form a complex laminated metal part. I think the word is called encapsulation as opposed to case hardening which merely holds the core metal by mechanically enclosing it. If the velocity of the initial contact is reached, cold welding is the result.

    • @joewboe
      @joewboe Před 3 lety +4

      you'd be horrified to know what is an economical process when the government is using your money to heavily subsidize an industry

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 Před 3 lety +7

      Why? Commercial explosives are relatively cheap and the dies are not much different from if you forged or punched the same parts.

  • @chansen7613
    @chansen7613 Před 3 lety +17

    Love it guys wearing the clothes they wear at home. No osha issues here

    • @jimmymcjimmyvich9052
      @jimmymcjimmyvich9052 Před 3 lety +1

      You wear a white coat at home))

    • @AUXdrone
      @AUXdrone Před 3 lety +5

      I’m a particular fan of the og cigarette in the field at 4:57

    • @andiem6669
      @andiem6669 Před 3 lety

      Ahhh you couldn’t carry out work the. looking like we do these days ... overall and all that jazz ..
      if you didn’t look like a gent you could do engineering :p

  • @davidchavez81
    @davidchavez81 Před rokem

    I am 100% positive that software exists which fixes this audio to reduce noise and amplify the speech.

  • @tartansauce4879
    @tartansauce4879 Před 3 lety +2

    Who would give this a thumbs down?

  • @Bramon83
    @Bramon83 Před 3 lety +2

    Dude, America used to be so awesome.

  • @CS_247
    @CS_247 Před 3 lety +11

    Ahhh, back in the day, when a white lab coat was all the PPE a real man needed.

  • @douggolde7582
    @douggolde7582 Před 3 lety +4

    I needed to sleep and this video did it.

  • @ocayaro
    @ocayaro Před 3 lety

    The method went out with a bang

  • @tarstakars
    @tarstakars Před 3 lety +4

    I guess if you're making a small number of very specific parts this could be a lot less expensive than die forming it or stamping it which would require a lot of specifically machine parts for just a few items.

    • @bitsnpieces11
      @bitsnpieces11 Před 3 lety +3

      It was perfect for parts that could NOT be cold or hot forged or cast. It then got pretty good at making parts that were within tolerance without any machining.

  • @KB4QAA
    @KB4QAA Před 3 lety +5

    Alloys mentioned: Hastelloy, Kirksite (commonly ZAMAK), and ? Rinay 41? Linay 41?

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton Před 3 lety +6

      Could have been a proprietary mix. Rinay41 = short for Ryan Air 41?

    • @kilomike5792
      @kilomike5792 Před 3 lety +4

      @@lwilton Rene 41. It's a nickel based super alloy.

  • @VideoNOLA
    @VideoNOLA Před 3 lety +3

    All the more remarkable that work of this accuracy could be produced before the advent of computer-based 3D analytical methods.

    • @sealpiercing8476
      @sealpiercing8476 Před 3 lety +1

      Seems to be easier to get precise parts this way than with a press or similar if your analytical tools are limited. Zero springback, minimal thickness variation, deep draws in one go etc.

  • @mr.donallthrump5497
    @mr.donallthrump5497 Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome

  • @michaelcrockis7679
    @michaelcrockis7679 Před 2 lety

    I see how this technique would have been very useful for building an underwater city by Ryan Industries.

  • @ScoutSniper3124
    @ScoutSniper3124 Před 3 lety +1

    Let me guess... further development of this method was stopped due to PETA worrying about the mating cycles of the blue lunged tree frogs being disrupted by the loud bangs.

  • @noneofabove5586
    @noneofabove5586 Před 3 lety

    How cool would it be to have this job !

  • @charliepearce8767
    @charliepearce8767 Před 3 lety +4

    Ha !...
    Cool...I wanna do this now !
    "BLAMB !"....New floor pan for me old car...

  • @williamchamberlain2263
    @williamchamberlain2263 Před 3 lety +1

    1:08 little bit more careful putting down that jelly than the plastic

  • @charlesyoung8600
    @charlesyoung8600 Před 3 lety

    I Think I'm going to use this commercially without permission 🤔

  • @mogus69-wi4pm
    @mogus69-wi4pm Před 11 měsíci

    guys please im desperate whats the name of the background music. ive been looking for years

  • @jaewok5G
    @jaewok5G Před 3 lety

    I'm still completely certain that. this isn't a parody

  • @user-cc5lz1em2c
    @user-cc5lz1em2c Před 6 měsíci

    Someone can indicate, wich company was using this kind of forming for Rayan aeronautical ?

  • @bigharrykochenbauls4567
    @bigharrykochenbauls4567 Před 3 lety +2

    Forming rocket-booster cones 😎

  • @hMaxFly
    @hMaxFly Před 3 lety +1

    Эффект Юткина вместо любой взрывчатки

  • @Atodaso
    @Atodaso Před 3 lety

    lol - just watched someone do the same thing with a blowtorch and a pressure-washer. neat.

  • @wildduck_3865
    @wildduck_3865 Před 3 lety +1

    I feel the only appropriate response is, what?

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 Před 3 lety +4

      "Construction of spherical tanks by explosive method" - check out that video, everything old is new again.

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL Před 3 lety

    An early form of hydroforming-

  • @mikegLXIVMM
    @mikegLXIVMM Před 3 lety +1

    Explosi-form™

  • @jinnahkhan1149
    @jinnahkhan1149 Před 3 lety

    I know what this is I was 12 year old see picher back turn .

  • @pamfesta363
    @pamfesta363 Před 3 lety

    like

  • @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
    @zyxwvutsrqponmlkh Před 3 lety

    My ears >_

  • @johnlshilling1446
    @johnlshilling1446 Před 3 lety

    Except for items that cannot be produced by any other means, this seems like a ridiculously labor intensive process, not to mention that it is also a ridiculously slow process.

    • @michaelfoye1135
      @michaelfoye1135 Před 3 lety +2

      You were watching a film of experimental trials. The process is much more industrious now. In any case it made excellent savings from the very beginning. And allowed for the single piece manufacturing of many components not otherwise possible to form.

    • @johnlshilling1446
      @johnlshilling1446 Před 3 lety

      @@michaelfoye1135 OK. My point is that it only suitable for short runs and not for mass production. But, people can be very ingenious... I'm sure that I'm often proven wrong.

    • @michaelfoye1135
      @michaelfoye1135 Před 3 lety +2

      @@johnlshilling1446 Its most commonly used in the aviation and aerospace industries. Also for forming gas, and liquid containers. Along with an increasing panoply of other products.

    • @johnlshilling1446
      @johnlshilling1446 Před 3 lety

      @@michaelfoye1135 Yes, many commentors have corrected my cynical viewpoint.

    • @michaelfoye1135
      @michaelfoye1135 Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnlshilling1446 You're not an engineer. You don't work in manufacturing. Like most people you don't know how most things are made. Really doesn't set you apart. No worries.

  • @jonnie2bad
    @jonnie2bad Před 3 lety

    caveman technology, a few years later they progress to electromagnetic forming. At this rate In a few more weeks im going to be an expert in this field.

  • @arailway8809
    @arailway8809 Před 3 lety

    Yep, you can do amazing things with water . . .
    and be totally ignorant of what oils would do
    in thousands of experiments.

  • @rexmundi8154
    @rexmundi8154 Před 3 lety

    @SpaceX meet your nosecone solution

  • @rdflatman5660
    @rdflatman5660 Před 3 lety

    Look in your pocket those dimes& quarters are variation of this process

  • @powerfarmer
    @powerfarmer Před 3 lety +1

    interesting - but impractiable.. You can do the same with metal-spinning or highpressure-hydraulic-forming.

    • @SKarlaArt
      @SKarlaArt Před 3 lety +1

      With more tooling and less accurate results as stated in the video

    • @zausage2757
      @zausage2757 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SKarlaArt not to mention metal spinning, you wont be getting these complex shapes. While you can do some complex shapes it typically isn't worth the time to engineer the pattern to make them and they have their drawbacks, like gouging the inside of the part and wear and tear of the pattern after so many runs. Typical Metal spinning tolerance is +/- .060 which is miles of wiggle room for a machinist.

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 Před 3 lety

      Stick to yer cows mate... you know nothing about physics & engineering... 🙄😂

  • @BrokenLifeCycle
    @BrokenLifeCycle Před 3 lety +1

    I think most American coins are made like this, too. Notice how a quarter is made of three layers with two sandwiching another in the middle?

  • @vid2ification
    @vid2ification Před 3 lety

    Well, if i wasn't watching this on my phone with jbl soundboost2 attached, i wouldn't of heard any audio... Best kind of phones aren't big sellers unfortunately, llikely due to manufactures target market being incompetent....

    • @ParadigmUnkn0wn
      @ParadigmUnkn0wn Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, for letting me know that fanbois have reach new levels of fanboi-ing.