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360p we meet again.
What’s 360p and stuff what dat do?
Bad quality video
@@sanjaykmisra i have an lg 360p is good quality to me
we have 8k now lol
"Exploding hydrogen bombs on the south pole..."
Best line ever
Mars, run! You don't want humans on your surface! They destroy everything they touch!
There's nothing to destroy. Mars is one place where our mess and pollutants would actually help. They'd be like medicine on Mars. And besides, only a fraction of us are like what you are elaborating.
Commander Spock I am aware that Mars is a dead planet. Learn to laugh a little. It was meant to be a generalising, stereotypical comment. However I would have to disagree with your remark about only a fraction of us being like how I described. We as a species have been around for a mere blink of an eye in terms of how long the planet has been here, and we have already destroyed most of it.
Tom Bigg We're are nothing compared to what nature itself has unleashed on innumerable occasions. At times 90% of all life on Earth has been wiped out but the likes of Gamma rays from Space or super volcanoes on terra firma. We're a surface scratch; superficial. And I laugh all the time. I love a good sense of humour. I got you were joking but what you said was loaded with what you actually feel/believe.
And Mars is far from dead. Could well be teaming with subsurface microbial life and even have spawned Earth life.
Commander Spock Yes, I am aware that nature has the ability to screw us over whenever it sees fit. But that still does not change my opinion on us as a species. Since recorded history started, we have pillaged and ploughed everything around us to suit our needs. We have destroyed the natural environments and habitats all over the planet for our own well being. Which, given the effect it has had on our atmosphere and other life, hasn't set us up for a bright future.
Please take from this that I am in no way comparing us to nature in terms of destruction, as that would be ridiculous. I am simply saying that we don't exactly do a lot of good for our planet. That was the initial baseline for the original comment on this video.
"Mars is far from dead." - Until we end up actually visiting Mars, no-one can say for sure if there are any traces of life there.
Tom Bigg Well fair points to a degree. But answer me this: If some other animal had evolved, say some reptile descended from dinosaurs, or something from the cat family, in other words most likely a carnivore, say one of those had evolved along our lines with our sentience and level of intelligence, our technological capabilities would it have done any better in our place?
Maybe you are too harsh on humans.
Where else in nature do we find compassion, empathy and conscience? Rarely. Only usually in a mother's nurture. Isn't it precisely because we are an anomaly and against the grain of nature that we even give a damn at all? Nature is mostly brutal and cruel and about devouring itself.
About Mars, it is highly likely life took hold there maybe 4 billion years ago, even before here on Earth, because Mars' surface cooled quicker in simple terms. So in that life tends to cling on and be extremely resilient.
I believe there is life on Mars today, subsurface. Microbial life thrives on Earth deep beneath the surface in rock, no reason why it cannot on other planets that are seemingly dead at the surface. Merely requires trace amounts of water to function.
When I was little, my dad once told me that humans used to live on Venus, and did to Earth what this is saying to do to Mars. I know it's not true, but I thought about it for a long time.
Misinformation as a kid is frustrating, I would know.
venus is not habitable
1,000's of years. Ah, yes, we think in such short terms!
That sounds awesome :) Thanks for the information. I hope we start trying that in a decade or sooner.
But even when its cooler, it still has no magnetic field. It will not hold an atmosphere.
Sorry to disappoint
Thanks you for responding because you caused me to dig a little deeper. I think that as we study these planets more we will get more answers to why the atmospheres are so different. I still feel there are a lot of challenges to overcome for people to be on the planet. Protection from radiation would have to be good and I feel like terriforming the planet could be 75 to a 100 years off if not more. I'm sending you a link to an interesting article about the atmospheres from the ESA.
Or we could just use the high amounts of CO2 (a greenhouse gas) under the Martian ground instead of setting up huge expensive factories..
It's not underground, martian atmosphere is made up of 96% of CO2 but that is not enough to have greenhouse effect because martian atmosphere is 1% of earth's atmosphere.
no its to give it an active core and a magnetosphere so the greenhouse gasses wont get blown away by solar winds
and gravity is also a big issue
+Klote3241 Indeed. Without a magnetosphere, the entire process would be futile. I believe that's where our nuclear warheads come in. We use them to melt Mars' core and hopefully, we should have a magnetosphere.
Yo, 2020 anyone?
Me
@@halcyon9062 2021
PS. Clouds do not reflect, they absorb mostly. It could be cooled with semi-reflecting clouds exactly like that.
National Geographic is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I already saw this stuff a few months ago...I forgot, I've been obsessively watching every National Geographic I can get my hands on. Yeah, I already got a BA but we NEVER stop learning...I've learned so much since leaving college about 1 & a half years ago. Science rocks!
"The atmosphere needs to be improved to trap more heat"
I already said that.
this video is 2009.. its 2017 now.. any update?????
ChocoKisses Elon musk is your update
Well i from 2019 lol and no update
Hey 2020 here and nope we just ganna kill each other in the third world war. Rip.
2020 update: Corona Virus (NCOV19)
Man I love this stuff!!
I am watching this for my science homework due tomorrow:p
Mars, do you like Phobos and Deimos?
And then comes Elon Musk with SpaceX :)
fascinating
Thank you, finally people understand!
Somebody below asks why not "colonize" the moon first. I think we can take this further: Why not colonize Antarctica first? The first successful manned expedition to Antarctica took place in 1821. The status nearly two centuries later? "The people who travel to or live in Antarctica fall into two main groups, those who live and work on scientific research stations or bases, and tourists. No-one lives in Antarctica indefinitely in the way that they do in the rest of the world. It has no commercial industries, no towns or cities, no permanent residents." Guess what? If we ain't a-gonna colonize Antarctica, we certainly ain't a-gonna colonize Mars. Mars is much, much, much, much, much colder than Antarctica and has no breathable atmosphere and virtually no water.
Herbert Wells Antarctica is protected from industrialization I'm pretty sure...
I'm all for exploring Mars, but "terraforming" is just a euphemism for destroying. LEAVE MARS ALONE! (Bear in mind as well that "colonizing Mars" would solve nothing here. The population of the earth is currently doubling every forty years. Were we, for example, somehow magically able to ship one-half of our current population of over 7.2 billion persons to Mars, in a few decades we'd be right smack back where we started: staggeringly over-populated.)
damit i wish i could live forever, to experience stuff like this
It would still take a while for everything to fall into place. I think Zubrin says it would just take 50 yrs. but that's really, REALLY optimistic.
Can someone let me in on this information, because apparently I am stupid. Why are there programs already planning to send people to Mars to start a colony but no one planning to go to the Moon? We can get there much easier than Mars ---> less money.
There is much more potential on Mars as opposed to the Moon. Furthermore there are far more resources.
We've already been to the moon. It's pretty boring, full of rocks and has no atmosphere. Also it's too small and too close to the Earth.
Dylan Dang I've since found out the answer, and you are wrong as can be haha. Thanks for playing
Titus Seoighe Wow, never have I seen such an ambiguous answer.
Obama Bin Laden It was my pleasure! :)
we will all be dead before it actually happens lol
sadly :(
it's been 3 years since your comment and it hasn't happened :(
join the sad club
:(
Kitcat1245 I want to live & die on earth anyway. Why would I leave it?
camoi18 2030 my friend
But we can colonize it in our lifetime. Guessing you've seen SpaceX? ;)
Would love to see this happening.
4:01 Great Vision
"LMAO living in space? what a bunch of crap!!!"
- Wolverinex29
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Earth is a rock, in space.
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What if mars was flat?
new conspiracy theory?!?!?!
Simon Koetsier its not perhaps it’s triangle?
Shut up we don't need another one of those stupid theories we have game theory for that
very good
Dibbs on terraforming mars!! I want to live there :D
Awesome stuff. Human's rock... the the rational, scientific ones....
"Warming up planets is something we know how to do" like in 1979 when we knew how to cool it!
Way more awesome =D
They schould bore to the core of Mars and explode there some hydrogen boms or antimatter to make the core active again...Marw will have an magnethosphere what will help in terraforming.
I agree but by then we would alright be able to travel across the galaxy, and maybe along the way we can find a planet that is not hot or too cold.
THANK YOU!!!!! Finally somebody else who has done actual independent research instead of just blindly following environmentalists!!!
What you say is true. Happy New Year.!
that would be a tough process to pursue, let alone find a way to make that process happen and keep it functioning
I love that movie :)
Well it won't happen in my life time but, very exciting for future generations...
What everyone misses is that Mars doesn't have the same magnetic shielding that the Earth does, this is what stripped the oceans off Mars.
this is damn interesting.
I was thinking of that game as I watched the video, and Metroid Prime 3.
I hear that if you were to do that it would cause a gravitational pull noticable even here on earth. Even a slight pull could change our tempatures here on earth.
I'm 15 i hope i live to see this!
It is possible to make a habitable environment inside using hyroponics and by extraction of oxygen from permafrost and the martian atmosphere of CO2.
Thanks.
Man is a born explorer with the almost paranoid need to keep searching for more resources and places to habitat. Why not? Im into it.
hello we need that reactor in "Total Recall" der
Thought so :)
The Mars Curiosity Rover has landed on Mars!!!
Hopefully we will have a large change towards the direction of planning for the future, and caring about the future of our species in general soon. If we don't, I fear we will use up our numerous resources wastefully, and virtually gain nothing from it as a species. That is certainly not what I would want for our species, heck we haven't even mastered galactic travel yet, and we are already starting to run out of fresh water in much of our nations. Not to mention the constant wars.
That looks really cool! To make little factories on Mars! haha
But it would never happen!
April 2012, it was reported that lichen and bacteria survived and showed remarkable adaptation capacity for photosynthesis after 34 days in simulated Martian conditions in the Mars Simulation Laboratory (MSL) maintained by the German Aerospace Center On Earth, bacteria are about 80% of the biomass.
i agree so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Hmm good point
yes that is due to temperatures, with balloons mass produced through robotics we could drop the temperature. The pressure is as high as it is because PV=T. Its like a pressure cooker
It's depressing that Venus was once like Earth and Earth will one day be like Venus.
Well that just speaks volumes about where you're coming from.
this exicites me.
Talking about colonizing mars we also need to think about what are they going to life of like what are they gonna eat and i think taking food from earth to mars is way to expensive.
I think we should mainly focus on just colonizing we don't have the technology to terraform right now and it would take thousands of years.
that would make one heck of a hollywood movie
@greycloud24 That would certainly deal with Mars' problem with not having a molten core, at least. Unfortunately, with that method, we'd have to wait billions of years for the crust to cool.
I hope we can!
That's exactly what I've been saying!
@OtagoMark It was just a thought but you're right.
To be more specifik a Singularity is the state inside a black hole. Witch in theory could exist outside the aspect´s of black holes take for instance the big bang. In other words it is not only limited to black holes hope you got my point :P
First, make advancements in robotics. Take those robotics to Mars. Next, have those robots build habitats, life support systems and food production infrastructure. After colonies are established, perform terraforming technology.
At Mars equator in the summer in the day time , it gets up to 80 degrees Fahrenheit
just a question guys., "is it possible that when we melt or heat up the core of mars, it can then generate it's own magnetic field?" thanks ^^
look, I think so, because if Mars also has a "dynamo" that can be warming it can create one that protects the solar wind magnetic field
+vexhell I had the same idea. And it should be possible. We'll need all the nuclear substances on earth for it, though. Including warheads.
joimy95 Hey yeah. That would be a really efficient way to transport energy. Great idea, dude. But at the current rate of antimatter production, it's gonna take a really long time. In the order of millennia, I think.
It rotate in circle with 4arms to the ground that dig the soil and 4arm above make wall and the last is the roof and maybe who knows it can make melted sand with the help of heating machine,laser or a lens light?
am i the only one finding this extremely interesting? I mean imagine moving to mars, its like moving to a different continent just million times bigger, think about having relatives living on mars, and that planets in the future will function as today's countries or continents, and how politics would be on mars, man this is so fucking insane, I wish we could just make that planet hot right now!
It would be like two children on a playground
"WE WERE HERE FIRST!"
"Oh really? I didn't see your name on it."
"We made Mars this way in the first place! You're ruining out work!"
"I'd prefer to think we're making it better... for us."
"Get out, or we're telling on you!"
"Oh yeah? Telling who?"
"... The Borg..."
Has anyone read the Red Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson? There's a lot of good solid science behind what he was talking about.
The fact is that we'd actually want to pull a lot of the CO2 out of the atmosphere because we'd need the Carbon for other things. What we need is methane and ice comets tractored in from the asteroid belt. Once you get the ice melting on Mars the whole crust is going to turn spongy because so much of it is like the permafrost you see in the arctic circle.
Even if you can somehow build up the atmosphere(by crashing asteroids into it). That doesn't do anything about the lack of a magnetic field which deflects solar winds. Then you need to modify the atmosphere. Then have a sustainable source of energy, food and water.
"Maintain" as in stop it from dissappearing in to space? How could you do that without the magnetic field? Unless you live in big greenhouses or something.
SO MUCH FRUGGIN' MARS ONE. SO MUCH.
Now how are they going to keep it going? I've had numerous discussions with other geologists and we all agree it's just not viable unless there's plate tectonics, and mars' plates quit moving a long time ago (hence it being a dead planet)... Any ideas?
it has always been cold mate thats a fact. a few people thought or think its hot only because its a desert or sand and dust. we are still searching for water because with water you can do so much from cleaning, cooling down machines, health much more.
I don't think that using our 20th century addiction of exploiting earth's minerals and such, and bringing that strategy to another planet is really advancement, just simply doing the same thing somewhere else. What would be more impressive would be to figure out a sustained approach to production of everyday necessities. Like water, electric, fuel, plastics, food, etc, etc. That could even be done here at home.
"First I figured we could just nuke Mars, but then I realized that it wasn't very practical."
they need to create a process that activates those green house gasses in the soil. somthin like crop dusting or by radio waves.
Even though this would take the tiniest fraction of the time as TURNING A WHOLE PLANET into a terraformed world. If we're going to colonize Mars any time soon, it will be in some sort of pod or bubble
who all watching this in the late 2020 December during covid 19
zubrin is such a great visionary man ... i am somehow sad that people think they need war more than science and spacetravell
If going underground is the only way to feasibly live on Mars, it'll be far easier to colonize the Earth's oceans. The ocean is an amazing protective envelope. We could easily build cities underneath the water, capitalizing on ocean currents for hydroelectric power and solar arrays near the surface to collect power from the sun.
oh so you know about the whole universe and know about all the other life forms on different galaxies? thats cool.
tell me what theyre like and why we're more complex
According to Physcist John Brandenburg Mars once had an advanced civilization about 180 million years ago. John Brandenburg also stated that Mars was murdered by an intergalactic civilization and did not die a natural death. John Brandenburg said that a 1 million megaton nuclear bomb destroyed Mars and he says this because he found Xenon 129 on Mars and Xenon 129 can only be the result of unatural nuclear blast. John Brandenburg worked for the Pantagon and Lawrence Livimore Laboratories.
That pretty much halts all plans for Mars colonization until artificial gravity can be achieved (if ever).
Pretty much everything that stops us in space exploration now is the lack of cheap means of creating artificial gravity.
Firstly we need to generate some viable atmosphere at Mars.The above plan is all about that, but besides that, we need to reactivate the planets core.
@94794 damn right... we may be just seeing it as other beings
Let's do this, I know for sure we can. We are all humans, and thus meaning we must put forth our effort do that our next generation, can go to mars.
Even "pollution" is a double edged sword, it may be bad here, but ironically it may be the last hope for life in our known solar system. I can't believe there are people saying stuff like "leave mars alone", its not a living thing its a deserted wasteland.
Go get calc and count what means 95,000 (95 thousand) tonns annualy per day. As it is stated by Cambridge Univ.
I'm curious. Any idea's how we could do that?
It all depends on how fast you can go. Most satellites launched to mars take about 7 years to reach it. Its possible to send a rocket that fast as long as its in space.
True but the new atmosphere could have a much more prevalent ozone layer strong enough to negate the effects of solar flares.