Re-celling Batteries for the Beaulieu 4008 ZMII. Super 8.
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- This is NOT a tutorial. This is a video of me reCelling batteries for my Beaulieu 4008 ZMII Super 8 camera where I explain in detail how the battery works and my process.
If you don't have the tools or the skills ask a camera technician to recell your batteries or simply buy one from the people who sell the brand new ones.
0:00 Intro, how the battery works and parts.
24:00 Putting the parts together.
30:05 Testing the re-celled battery with a multi meter.
33:05 Mounting the battery on the camera
Thanks for watching.
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You saved me from total depression. I was about to throw it as far as I could 😀 Thanks a lot man!
No problem! I'm glad to know the video was useful.
8:17 I actually have no idea what you are doing, why you're doing it or how I ended up here but I love that you're sharing your experience to save others from making mistakes, I respect it and am happily interested and invested in the video
Hahaha. Well, you learned something about re-celling batteries for Super 8 cameras. Thanks for watching the video and thanks for the fun comment. I'm glad to hear you found the video interesting.
Thanks for this insight. I too saw the prices for new battery replacements and find it INSANE what they demand for something like that. As if their batteries are made of gold or something.....
00:00 Intro, how the battery works and parts.
24:00 Putting the parts together.
30:05 Testing the re-celled battery with a multi meter.
33:05 Mounting the battery on the camera
I was able to open up one without any damage or marring by first putting teflon oil on the seams and then using a clamp to compress them, they will expand as they age. after that the top cosmetic lip will fall off and I used a harbor freight compass to remove the lid
That's great! Thanks for sharing. I'll try that next time for sure, because my friend has had a hard time opening them for me even when he is using a torch and big tools.
Hi, can you tell me what is the diameter (in Centimeters) of the Beaulieu's battery' metal recipe? (I mean the cylindrical metal recipe where you put the two battery packs) Thanxs!
The diameter of the case inside is 35mm. The height of the area that can be used is about 30mm.
@@TheCinematographyLab Many thanks for the info!!
No problem!
Hello, im 25 years old from Italy, last year i felt in love with the super 8 camera world after i found the old beaulieu 4008 my dad used when he was younger. Im now restoring it, all the mechanics have been restored and the electronics checked, it is now a little gem. But my problem now is once i removed the internal filters the lens need to be collimated (i have no clue on how to do it), can i have an email to contact you? i would love to ask some questions :) Thank you, Luca.
Hi Luca,
I have the basic knowledge of how a lens and a camera mount are adjusted. You can do some research on "Flange focal distance" to get an idea. It is a very difficult thing to do if you don't have the right tools and knowledge.
I sent some cameras to Sweden to be serviced and to have the filter removed and the lens adjusted. The technician who is considered the best in the world for Beaulieu cameras told me they had to machine the mount of the lenses to make them work without the filter. He also mentioned that the tolerance was 0.00± mm for the the lens to perform well as a parfocal lens. Tolerances are tight on lens mounts, 0.02± is what I understand is considered standard, but 0 is even better than that. Not a simple thing as you can see.
My email is in the "about or contact info" of my channel.
Hi, great stuff !
I’m looking to buy a beaulieu 4008 zm 4.
Is it possible to order the whole battery package or the 3d printed parts from you?
And how to you charge the battery?
Thanks! I'm not currently selling the parts, but I could sell them. I could sell the charger too.
I'm working on a different system that utilizes batteries that are easily available in the market. That system would power the camera only, not the light meter, but eliminates the hard to find, re-cell and charge Beaulieu battery.
Good luck with the ZM4.
@@TheCinematographyLab ok nice, maybe i‘ll hot you uo when i get the cam :)
That different system sounds really interesting, would probably make it way easyier and most people, at leat me, use their own lightmeter anyway :)
If everything goes well, will you make a video and sell it?
@@Lugo1993 I have to design and manufacture some parts, but I already tested the concept and it works fine.
I like using an external light meter too, you get even better results imo.
Sounds good! good luck getting the camera. Looking forward to watching that video.
Hi , where can I buy your batteries for the Beaulieu
Very interesting, how do charge it then? I cannot see a charging plug on the battery you created?
The answer is here:
czcams.com/video/E7Qe_0bci90/video.html
You need a charger that can charge batteries in the 7.2v range. A charger for 12v batteries would be too much. The one I show in the video is ideal for this kind of batteries. It can be found on eBay. You don't really need a holder like the one I made. As long as the positive and negative terminals make contact with the contacts on the battery electricity will be transferred.
Originally the camera was used to charge the battery. I don't think that's a good idea with modern chargers and cells.
@@TheCinematographyLab Amazing, i appreciate you sharing your knowledge so people can still use these cameras. Could i not use the orginal camera charger and charge the battery through the camera?
@@nickbeume9429 You could, but I don't recommend it. The original charger of the camera had a 3.5mm connector and the idea was to charge the battery using the camera.
The original charger was designed for the camera. They knew it was not going to damage the camera. Also the charger was designed for a specific battery chemistry. You cannot use any charger with any battery. You must use a charger designed for the chemistry you have on the cells and the cells they originally used on the camera are not available anymore because they were not efficient and not friendly with the environment. The manual clearly states "Never use the camera on the mains, even with any transformer to be found on the market, for the current must not merely be rectified, but also carefully filtered" (p53.)
So, yes, you can charge the battery using the camera, but if you use a different charger and a different chemistry, that may create high spikes and damage the electronics of the camera. What chargers do is basically force electricity into the battery.
Now, there is a guy who sales batteries on eBay and he includes the charger (he is in Canada) I'm sure he knows his stuff, plus he has been selling for years. That means no cameras have been damaged. You could buy that kit. If you want to re-cell the batteries yourself and use a generic charger I think charging the battery out of the camera is safer.
Here is a thread where they talk about he topic:
cinematography.com/index.php?/forums/topic/79026-beaulieu-4008-zmii-charger/
In the last few minutes of your video, I can see your camera have the handle/grip removed .. Would you mind sharing how you've done that ? ;D
Short answer, there is one screw at the bottom of the grip. You unscrew that screw and that's it. Long answer... You unscrew that screw, and there are going to be some thin and delicate wires connected to the switch at the rear bottom of the grip. In order to completely remove the grip you have to do something with those wires. So you have to understand electricity (basics) and do something with those wires. You cannot simply connect the wires and skip the switch because the light meter in the camera will drain the battery. So it can be removed, but it takes more than simply removing the screw.
@@TheCinematographyLab Thanks for the explanation. I'd be keen to try the grid removal and wire thing. Do you know where I can have more information about reconnecting the wires without damaging the camera components ?
@@njoyenconseil No problem. The wiring is very easy to understand for someone who understand the basics of DC electricity, but I cannot comment on specific information because I don't think it's a good idea for people to mess with their cameras. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful but I think that's either a job for a technician or for someone who wouldn't mind possibly destroying a camera.
@@TheCinematographyLab
I understand, and also that you wouldn't like be held responsible for the damages.
However I actually got a second 4008 to experiment on that and with my basic knowledge of electronic I feel I could have it to work. I just keen for more details since you seems to have successfully done it, and that could save me for some troubles.
I won't blame anyone but myself for trying I promise.
@@njoyenconseil Send me an email.