Restoring an IBM PC XT-286 from 1986

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  • čas přidán 30. 04. 2020
  • Cleaning, upgrading, and overall reinvigorating a vintage IBM computer system from 1986! The Model 5162 here is a bit of an uncommon beast at this point, combining the classic case design of the XT with the 286 internals of an IBM AT. Let's fix it!
    ● Pertinent linkage:
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    ● Music courtesy of:
    www.epidemicsound.com
    #LGR #Hardware #Restoration
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  • @LGR
    @LGR  Před 4 lety +437

    To answer questions about the Hardcard: as expected, it doesn't work.
    t.co/GK2oUEfzQJ
    Every single one of them I've come across are in need of various internal repairs. Hopefully I'll get around to fixing mine up someday, but it'll be a time-consuming and fiddly process that I'm not exactly rushing to get involved in, haha.

    • @crumpets2123
      @crumpets2123 Před 4 lety +30

      Would love to see more on the Hardcard, have never heard of these, keep up the great work.

    • @amberselectronics
      @amberselectronics Před 4 lety +44

      I've had a couple that were jammed. I decided to open one of them and see if I could work the bearing loose. I set up a clean booth with filtration, got the cover off, and dropped my screwdriver straight onto the platter.
      But hey the drive spun afterward.

    • @DanielleWhite
      @DanielleWhite Před 4 lety +26

      I never knew the name but I dealt with some of the the generic competitor products in college. We had a lab of CompuAdd 286s with them. When I was there they were developing dead spots on the actuator motor and would get stuck if powered off in the wrong spot. While opening the case and moving the end of the shaft was the better temporary solution, we soon discovered a faster one which was probably not the best solution: raise the front edge of the system up about an inch and drop it, which would jostle it just enough to work.

    • @ajrhodes3262
      @ajrhodes3262 Před 4 lety +4

      That's actually kind of sad

    • @trex70
      @trex70 Před 4 lety +1

      Plz scan the Barcode on the backside

  • @veraxis9961
    @veraxis9961 Před 4 lety +1129

    Clint,
    Some notes about the machine (the rusty one with the leaked battery): This machine belonged to my father, who worked for a law firm in New York. This would be the reason for the disclaimer notice on startup. It was not his personal machine at work-- according to him, computers for every employee was not the practice yet, and he says the machine was most likely used for word processing. As for what the hardcard was originally connected to, he does not know. Later, in about 1991, the firm sold off the machines to the lawyers for use as personal computers, and my father bought his for practice using computers as well as the installation of Word Perfect which came installed on the machine. This was his first personal computer at home. He says that he remembers installing the modem card himself, and using it for some early internet functions like Compuserve and possibly Prodigy.
    Also, I am bummed that you were unable to try it with the original amber display that came with it. I had hoped to see that, but regardless, my father and I were very pleased to see you were able to boot up the old hard drive. I did try powering up the motherboard once myself, and I did not see any explosions from the tantalums, but if I remember correctly, I think some of the power supply rail voltages may have been reading incorrectly, so I would assess the power supply to be sure. Thanks!

    • @Norweeg
      @Norweeg Před 4 lety +63

      This comment needs to be higher up! Thanks for sharing!

    • @DarkWiNKenzo
      @DarkWiNKenzo Před 4 lety +52

      that is awesome to actually now know from where the PC came from, i hope you are happy at the fact that this machine got to the right hands, because i am sure that this PC would not be used no longer if someone else had it.

    • @ScoopDogg
      @ScoopDogg Před 4 lety +35

      thanks for the update and great your Dads still with us. I lost my dad early in 1982 often wish he could see the power today's computers are at

    • @ScoopDogg
      @ScoopDogg Před 4 lety +5

      @@Norweeg agree : )

    • @The_Goose2
      @The_Goose2 Před 4 lety +5

      Small world.

  • @beware_the_moose
    @beware_the_moose Před 4 lety +448

    We should take a moment to appreciate how those rear IO plates haven't changed in design at all since 1986.

    • @RiderLeangle2
      @RiderLeangle2 Před 4 lety +84

      Truly a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety +38

      Sadly, the same can't be said for Apple

    • @draxoronxztgs1212
      @draxoronxztgs1212 Před 3 lety +48

      Those was I/O's has bin a standard since even on the IBM 5150 from 1981, so for almost after 40 years (if not already) theres no other change than the socket type for the bus and the tech on the card.

    • @034G63EVO
      @034G63EVO Před 3 lety +14

      @@draxoronxztgs1212 This makes me feel old. I was born in 81.... lol My first PC was a 286 16mhz when i was a kid, man how time flys!

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před 3 lety +15

      Not for lack of trying. IBM wasn't NEARLY as concerned with keeping things standard as they get credit for. If they had their way, we would've been migrating to MCA around the time this machine was in use, and no doubt would've moved on to three or four other form factors thereafter.
      In addition to not being overly sentimental about breaking existing standards, IBM also didn't have a real great sense of planning for forward compatibility. The PC's backwards compatibility over the years has been a product of LOTS of hacks (mostly credited to Intel, Phoenix, AMI, Award ... e.g., the A20 gate, virtual x86 mode, transitioning from real to protected mode, and the ever-growing library of BIOS extensions) plus the incredible force of momentum from all the other major and minor players in the market all benefiting from a known quantity to build off of.

  • @carslayer
    @carslayer Před 4 lety +229

    Hello Clint, I have pretty crappy hearing and so usually watch CZcams with subtitles. I really appreciate all the work you put into captioning your videos, rather than relying on auto-generated ones. The in-jokes (excited chirping, clumsy fiddling, cautious laughter) are a wonderful touch.

    • @archygrey9093
      @archygrey9093 Před rokem +6

      I've just got really crappy laptop speakers lol, any kind of background noise drowns them out.
      Although working as a baggage handler at an airport for 3 years certainly did no favours for my hearing especially with the crappy $5 hardware store earmuffs they would give us.

    • @carslayer
      @carslayer Před rokem +4

      @@archygrey9093 Haha no way. I'm an aircraft mechanic and that certainly didn't help my earing either

    • @Oquadrinheiro
      @Oquadrinheiro Před 9 měsíci +2

      In my case, I'm Brazilian and I don't understand someone speaking English, but I understand the subtitles

    • @_MrX82_
      @_MrX82_ Před 3 měsíci +1

      Totally agree. The quality of these subtitles is very appreciated.

  • @mikedelyea8336
    @mikedelyea8336 Před 4 lety +79

    I love the sound of that startup. It seems to say "Hang on to your hat, the engines are reaching FULL POWER"!

  • @donbot5000
    @donbot5000 Před 4 lety +641

    LGR: Starts bashing the battery compartment with the screwdriver.
    ME: HELL YEAH NOW WE'RE RESTORING!

    • @bransonstevens5914
      @bransonstevens5914 Před 4 lety +56

      Percussive Maintenence :)

    • @CadillacHobo
      @CadillacHobo Před 4 lety +30

      Just a little tappy, tap, tap.

    • @rickyrigatoni
      @rickyrigatoni Před 4 lety +23

      Reconstruction must be preceded by destruction.

    • @Jessica-el5yx
      @Jessica-el5yx Před 4 lety +17

      As someone who lives in England, believe me when I say that's the only way to get anything to work in this country.

    • @sventobergte845
      @sventobergte845 Před 4 lety +10

      @@CadillacHobo This Confuser needs a little tappy tap tap, because all the angry pixies flown out of the Batarieas - AvE

  • @fortherecord1569
    @fortherecord1569 Před 4 lety +275

    When those two PC's started booting up... I felt like I should hold on to something.

    • @bransonstevens5914
      @bransonstevens5914 Před 4 lety +38

      Gotta love ancient PCs that sound like jet engines ready for takeoff xD

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo Před 4 lety +7

      I'll give you something to hold on to

    • @StCerberusEngel
      @StCerberusEngel Před 4 lety +8

      Hold on to your butts.

    • @joonasfi
      @joonasfi Před 4 lety +9

      @@StCerberusEngel it's a Unix system - I know this!

    • @hztm
      @hztm Před 4 lety

      Take your protein pills, and your helmet on !

  • @InZane94
    @InZane94 Před 4 lety +197

    Anyone else find old pc noises and old hard disk noises to be highly satisfying?

    • @alexsilva28
      @alexsilva28 Před 4 lety +24

      Every person that watches LGR does

    • @VideoAmericanStyle
      @VideoAmericanStyle Před 4 lety +7

      Like just nearly anything following “Anyone else...”, yes, there are many many people who also find them satisfying.

    • @glenrea
      @glenrea Před 4 lety +2

      Had an Amstrad 1512 and 2 Zenith Data Systems running ST225 and ST238R drives back in the day. That chirping brings back memories.

    • @jakemueller7976
      @jakemueller7976 Před 4 lety

      Idk kinda I grew up with Vista and,7

    • @luminumlx2604
      @luminumlx2604 Před 4 lety +3

      i use them to fall asleep, my old 20gb seagate drive failed many years ago and when i go to sleep i plug it in on my bedside lol

  • @I_am_Allan
    @I_am_Allan Před 4 lety +278

    Everyone else: "Gotta wash my dishes in the sink."
    LGR: "Gotta wash my IBM in the sink, with slow sensual music."

    • @DamnedSilly
      @DamnedSilly Před 4 lety +4

      The Noir sound track goes with the tobacco residue on the one cover.

    • @mctv6486
      @mctv6486 Před 4 lety +4

      i wonder what would happen if you call microsoft tech support about windows 3.1

    • @mctv6486
      @mctv6486 Před 4 lety

      @Jeffery Amherst im 14 aint got no phone

    • @__Mr.White__
      @__Mr.White__ Před 4 lety

      Anybody knows the song at 19:30?

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety +1

      @@mctv6486 Everyone I know has a phone, but I can understand your point because I actually got a BlackBerry like two years ago, and finally upgraded to an LG. Half my family still uses flip phones.

  • @RetroRynn
    @RetroRynn Před 4 lety +239

    "Hey newer computer, can you tell me the time and date so I can tell it to this older computer?"
    Flerpelnerp: "yes"

    • @erik365365365
      @erik365365365 Před 4 lety +1

      Ryan is that an amazon echo he is using or is the a google nest?

    • @BaneMcDeath
      @BaneMcDeath Před 4 lety

      I was like ????? I want to know what that is as well. Did he say 'hey affordable nerp?"

    • @jnbsp3512
      @jnbsp3512 Před 4 lety +3

      Not affordable nerp, Flerblenerp

    • @harakiwi
      @harakiwi Před 3 lety +2

      What's my purpose?
      Tell me the time!

  • @Marsc9013
    @Marsc9013 Před 4 lety +74

    It warms my heart to see somebody giving a shit And taking care of older hardware

    • @wohlhabendermanager
      @wohlhabendermanager Před 4 lety +2

      Yes. So much hardware just got thrown out and left to rot, it always makes me sad.

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@wohlhabendermanagerso many crt monitors were dumped. Rush to new technology then later people miss what they remember. Human nature.

  • @crossproduct9782
    @crossproduct9782 Před 4 lety +12

    Those stepper motor hard drives make such a distinctive sound, they're recognizable anywhere. At some point, one got sampled into a sound effects collection and you hear it all the time in movies and video games (including Black Mesa, most recently). Every time I hear it, I get this nostalgia flashback as a teenage nerd sitting in front of my dad's Mac Plus in like 1986.

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The drive used in those stock sound effects is a Seagate ST225

  • @timtaylor8305
    @timtaylor8305 Před 4 lety +2

    My wife is deaf and I watch these with her sometimes, your captions {computer loudly whirls to life} is great!

  • @IanThatMetalBassist
    @IanThatMetalBassist Před 4 lety +179

    I caught that Technology Connections reference at 9:07

    • @Fazer_600
      @Fazer_600 Před 4 lety +25

      An Excellent Reference - Chef Excellence.

    • @MyBlogsTV
      @MyBlogsTV Před 4 lety +4

      Spaced Invader ayy ashens reference

    • @poble
      @poble Před 4 lety +15

      that brown video was so mindblowing lol

    • @TheLeggedOne
      @TheLeggedOne Před 4 lety

      I thought it was an RCR reference

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox Před 4 lety +2

      ah yes references

  • @onirtnec183
    @onirtnec183 Před 4 lety +42

    Wow. From my birth year.
    My dad worked at IBM Germany at this time (30 years in all). Bringing home 'old' Computers from there. Sadly he died 5 month ago

    • @alphenllc
      @alphenllc Před 4 lety +5

      I'm sorry.

    • @Underwatches
      @Underwatches Před 4 lety +3

      well, be thankful he did what he could to make you happy!

    • @onirtnec183
      @onirtnec183 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Underwatches he fully Suceeded ✌💘

    • @devent10n
      @devent10n Před 4 lety +5

      I'm sorry for your loss. My dad died 13 years ago, & I miss him every day. Much love your way.

    • @rugxulo
      @rugxulo Před 4 lety +4

      Much respect to him for all of his good work. 👍👍

  • @bitwize
    @bitwize Před 4 lety +14

    Oh, man. Hearing that CRT ring when he powers up the monitor... it's like wince-stalgia.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 3 lety +3

      as a kid who grew up threw the early 2000s, I am starting to miss the sounds of CRT
      I wonder if I can find a functioning one somewhere in my area, even a small one would work...

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal Před 4 měsíci

      ​@UNSCPILOT Get one. Nothing like having at least one near you.

  • @PistonAvatarGuy
    @PistonAvatarGuy Před 4 lety +2

    THAT'S THE SOUND!!!! I've been looking for a video of a HDD that sounds like that for AGES! That's exactly what my XT sounded like, I DEEPLY regret selling it.

  • @macrophage6311
    @macrophage6311 Před 4 lety +493

    Subtitles: [Classy Computer repair music]

    • @retropuffer2986
      @retropuffer2986 Před 4 lety +8

      needs this: [sound of fingers sexily caressing vintage computer hardware]

    • @cinnerthecinnamonroll5578
      @cinnerthecinnamonroll5578 Před 4 lety +9

      This Genre exists?

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo Před 4 lety +20

      Love Caption Eastereggs on videos. Watched a video where it was english but Australian related and had the aussie lingo as an option lol

    • @ferhound
      @ferhound Před 4 lety +1

      Wtf with the subtitles!

    • @jeyendeoso
      @jeyendeoso Před 4 lety +16

      [nervous chuckles]
      [chill reassembly beats]
      [windows utopia startup sounds]
      these captions today are golden. i dont know why my were on, but im glad they were.

  • @RetroSpector78
    @RetroSpector78 Před 4 lety +133

    Love how everyone who has them keeps saying how rare they are, and then casually shows 2 of them :) Lovely machines, but prefer the look and feel of the AT. But always great to see an old IBM restoration process !

    • @GuybrushThriftweed
      @GuybrushThriftweed Před 4 lety +5

      Says the one with also 2 :p

    • @eddiehimself
      @eddiehimself Před 4 lety +10

      Check out this lad's channel if you're into old PC restoration videos btw.

    • @PilkScientist
      @PilkScientist Před 4 lety +3

      yeah, but every time that happens and they restore it, there's one less now

    • @LGR
      @LGR  Před 4 lety +16

      Hey, thanks for watching @RetroSpector78! Your own 5162 videos were an inspiration to finally tackle this project.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78 Před 4 lety +5

      LGR I am humbled sir .... glad you got it up and running. Nice machines. I have a garage full of these types of projects that I want to finish up one of these days. Like you said in the video, it sometimes takes a lot of time to get these things done, but through the magic of editing it always seems like this was just a quick 20 minute project ;)

  • @hotlavatube
    @hotlavatube Před 4 lety +28

    I'm reminded of when my dad powered up an old full-height scsi hard drive he was testing. It sounded like a prop plane starting up. Womp womp womp womp womp whirr whirr whirrr...

  • @HoLeeFuks
    @HoLeeFuks Před 4 lety +14

    The power up sounds is so nostalgic i actually miss these sounds like the floppy chatter.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 3 lety

      makes me want an effects unit for my new system to just pretend to be an ancient computer, HDD noises, startup and all

  • @teemofie
    @teemofie Před 4 lety +75

    When I was 10/11 I came home from school to find my dad sat in the living room surrounded by these machines. Not a one of them worked! He gave up and gave me a screwdriver and let me have at it.
    It took me a week of guesswork, stripping and swapping parts before I finally had 2 working machines! And I joined the PC master race and left my poor old Amiga to rot.

    • @aaabatteries9948
      @aaabatteries9948 Před 4 lety +3

      when you were 10 u fixed computers? Get out of here you were probably still eating your own boogers.

    • @teemofie
      @teemofie Před 4 lety +14

      AAA Batteries When I was 6/7 I was programming in basic writing basic loops (and I tiny bit of assembler on 8 bit machines in the UK) I wouldn’t call what I did a “fix” I just swapped parts back and forth until I managed to get 2 working! It was rare for my father to let me loose with a screwdriver as I’d gotten an original game boy for Xmas a year or so before and took it apart on Boxing Day! 😂 So I was banned from screwdrivers! In the UK in the 80s computer literacy program was HUGE we got taught basic in Junior school (from 5-11 years old).

    • @teemofie
      @teemofie Před 4 lety +9

      AAA Batteries And just for the record, nothing says you can’t fix a computer and eat boogers... they even make a good mini stressball when installing dos for the 28th time because I’d messed up my autoexec without backing it up and didn’t know how to fix it! Hahahahaha

    • @marciomaiajr
      @marciomaiajr Před 4 lety +9

      @@aaabatteries9948 Back in the 80's it was common for kids to learn programming early on. When I was 8 I took Basic classes and I cant forget it because the teacher asked us to draw a swastika using the Basic line draw commands. Lol...

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 Před 4 lety +5

      @@aaabatteries9948 That was not as uncommon as you think. I was programming in assembly language when I was 10.

  • @StevenIngram
    @StevenIngram Před 4 lety +18

    It never ceases to amaze how fast Planet X3 is on just about anything under the sun. LOL

  • @DenSporetrix
    @DenSporetrix Před 4 lety +79

    "Hey Alexa, i've decided to that your name is now Flerpelnerp"
    Flerpelnerp: D:

    • @tomypower4898
      @tomypower4898 Před 4 lety +1

      Sporetrix disk failure in the old pc version

    • @derpsakry4464
      @derpsakry4464 Před 3 lety +6

      its one way to stop viewers alexas go off

    • @glaucorocha1281
      @glaucorocha1281 Před 3 lety +1

      not sure, but this may well be an old english word for some weird middle-age concept.

  • @smbcollector
    @smbcollector Před 4 lety +29

    I don't even have a particular interest in computers, but I find a lot of your content satisfying, especially this one.

  • @Birdassasin
    @Birdassasin Před 4 lety +20

    >vid starts with subtitles on
    >*classy computer repairing music*
    ....okay, I chuckled at that

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 Před 4 lety +115

    "What day is it? I honestly didn't know.."
    You and the rest of us, Clint.." =P

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 Před 4 lety +1

      I woke up thinking it was Saturday already. Good thing I work at home!

    • @Tinker001
      @Tinker001 Před 4 lety

      @@desther7975 Doesn't EVERYBODY these days?

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety

      Technically, it's already Saturday.

    • @glossymouse7712
      @glossymouse7712 Před 4 lety

      Scott Miller No. A ton of people are “essential workers” and cannot work from home. For example what if you work at a store, how will you work from home?

  • @johnpriceuk
    @johnpriceuk Před 4 lety +17

    IBM build quality in the 80s was just something else, talk about 'over-engineered' !!

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT Před 3 lety

      Honestly I crave some over engineering in modern gear, so many things feel flimsy or underwhelming to hold, or break themselves internally due to shooty parts that die from normal usage

  • @deitybob
    @deitybob Před 4 lety +3

    It's 2 in the morning, and I am watching Clint wash his cases in the sink.

  • @xxoanna603
    @xxoanna603 Před 4 lety +83

    I'd love to hear more about those Hard Cards and (hopefully) see one in action in a future LGR Video or Blurb!

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson Před 4 lety +2

      Me too!

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo Před 4 lety +4

      *BLURB* *MAUUUUUUUU*

    • @benh.635
      @benh.635 Před 4 lety +1

      Would be fun to try sticking an SSD in one of those Hard Cards. Not really anything practical, but would certainly be fun if possible! :3

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo Před 4 lety +2

      @@benh.635 right!

    • @benh.635
      @benh.635 Před 4 lety

      @@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo In a way the Hard Card does live on with the ISA cards that can hold CF cards and such

  • @carrollmontgomery
    @carrollmontgomery Před 4 lety +203

    "A lot of these are made by Kraft". They missed a huge opportunity by not manufacturing the Mac n' Cheese PC.

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn Před 4 lety +12

      Kraft also missed an opportunity later in the mid 1990s with the Macarena.
      Then again, that might’ve extended the lifespan of that particular song, so perhaps it was for the better that they didn’t.

    • @ThePilgrums
      @ThePilgrums Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah, Project Blue Box got scrapped. A real shame...

    • @richkawaiipikachu
      @richkawaiipikachu Před 4 lety +7

      @@DavidWonn There was a sceensaver called "Macaroni" where a hole bunch of animated macaroni dancing to the tune of Macarena.

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn Před 4 lety +1

      richkawaiipikachu I was unaware this existed. I suspect its popularity peaked around the time of the song ('96?)

    • @summerlaverdure
      @summerlaverdure Před 4 lety +3

      the Macintosh n' Cheese

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 Před 4 lety +9

    when you started both of the systems it sounded like the job center I went to in the early 90's . that unmistakable back ground drone from the power supply's would fill a room fast when you had ten IBM's going at once

  • @amberbutitta7261
    @amberbutitta7261 Před 4 lety +24

    7:58 That's a re-badged AcuMOS AVGA card! Good performers, those! Also, they derive their clock from the ISA bus clock, so they're somewhat overclockable. One of the fastest 16-bit ISA VGA cards made.

    • @JovinRepairs
      @JovinRepairs Před 2 lety

      I was just thinking this same thing. I have an AcuMos in my ISA video card inventory.

  • @gentuxable
    @gentuxable Před 4 lety +414

    LGR turns on two IBMs
    Whole city: Did the light just got dimmer or is it me?

    • @rwdplz1
      @rwdplz1 Před 4 lety +19

      My IBM 5150 actually will not run on GFCI circuits

    • @jackkraken3888
      @jackkraken3888 Před 4 lety +15

      Where we're going we don't care about TDP.

    • @awilliams1701
      @awilliams1701 Před 4 lety +4

      can't be any more power than my 2014 volt takes.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Před 4 lety +15

      Amusingly, at the chip level old computers actually run more efficiently power-wise than the average desktop i5. It's just the awful power factor and efficiency of the power supplies that pumps up the power draw.

    • @JohnDavidDunlap
      @JohnDavidDunlap Před 4 lety +8

      Ironically, they use less power than modern PC's

  • @jamesmcdonough854
    @jamesmcdonough854 Před 4 lety +21

    The hard disk bring back memories of working a lab full of those machines in the early 1990's
    I recall playing karateka and doing lotus 123 and Word Perfrect.

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 Před 4 lety +1

      WordStar and COBOL ;-)
      / still kinda miss 123
      // but not their blasted copy protection

    • @jamesmcdonough854
      @jamesmcdonough854 Před 4 lety +2

      I recall the college I worked for the early 1990's. At that time people were doing COBOL and asembly Language for y2k. I used 8088's. with No hard drives. if you used 5 1/4 inch floppy drives hard disks were not as available back then. You were not guaranteed to have a hard disk in the computer that you were sitting at. Networking was rare too. You tubers who own vintage systems today have really pimped them out. If you were lucky you had a hard drive. A good chunk of that time you eather had cga or hurcules graphics and two 360k floppy disk. I do recall using a pc Jr network in the middle school Library . I regret I wasn't able to do COBAL

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety

      I dunno if this counts as vintage, but I'm in the midst of building a retro gaming system. As of now I've got an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition motherboard, an Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2, and a GT730 (I didn't have anything better and thought I'd at least get decent graphics.) I just lost a hard drive tho, granted it had a long ten years of life. Bought a new one and threw Windows 10 Pro back on it (I was dualbooting with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS before the drive died) and I'm currently setting up all my VMs again.

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety

      Forgot to mention I also threw a Creative Sound Blaster PCI CT4810 in there. Not sure what model it is, only reason I installed it in the first place was because my Windows 98SE VM was feeding me errors with the sound driver.

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 Před 4 lety +1

      I ran a software QA lab for a famous but now defunct company. There's nothing like those sounds....

  • @saturn580
    @saturn580 Před 4 lety +4

    That hard drive needs to put out a mixtape. 🔥

  • @thejackal007
    @thejackal007 Před 4 lety +9

    Now every time I hear that sound at 13:23, I think of that goofy video with the kid crawling through the tube (and Beck).

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron Před 4 lety +86

    One of these days were going to witness Clint restore a mainframe

    • @jayhill2193
      @jayhill2193 Před 4 lety +39

      and have them print out "farts" on punch cards

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 Před 4 lety +12

      @@jayhill2193 I can already hear him giggle.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 Před 4 lety +3

      Probably AkB.. Tech Tangents first. :-)

    • @colombianguy8194
      @colombianguy8194 Před 4 lety +3

      Do you already checked courious marc channel?, if not, he and his GENIUS friends restore an IBM 1401, a Xerox Alto, and the Apollo guidance computer.

  • @ctre97
    @ctre97 Před 4 lety +82

    That little Windows Movie Maker cutaway music made me laugh pretty hard

    •  Před 4 lety +14

      It's from Utopia Windows sound scheme (included first with Windows 95).

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 4 lety +5

      LGR's editing has improved significantly

  • @davidewhite69
    @davidewhite69 Před 4 lety +6

    unbelievable the prices fetching for these, thirty two years ago my work sent fifty of them to the tip when we got brand new 386s, if only we kept them, we'd be rich!

  • @CMDR_John_Crichton
    @CMDR_John_Crichton Před 4 lety +51

    12:06
    "Hey Flurblenurp, what time is it?"
    "It's 11:08"

    • @Veezyjung
      @Veezyjung Před 4 lety +5

      A fine name for an AI assistant.

    • @daMgame19
      @daMgame19 Před 4 lety +1

      I couldn’t tell if it was the Google Assistant or Alexa, probably Alexa though because you can change the wake word on it unlike Google

    • @redpup6931
      @redpup6931 Před 4 lety +1

      @@daMgame19 Definitely Alexa

  • @RetroSpector78
    @RetroSpector78 Před 4 lety +26

    Is it just me or is it simply amazing how this 35+ year old tech just switches on and continues to just chug along. Besides the odd tantalum cap exploding or hard drive failing, most of these old IBMs simply work after setting them up again. Even with these old MFM hard drives I’ve had a decent success rate. Great pieces of engineering.

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 Před 4 lety +5

      MFM drives were like tanks. I could often get ones that were ten years old going again no problem.

    • @redmage777
      @redmage777 Před 4 lety +7

      Computers in general don't wear out from age so much as they become obsolete. The Hardware of most computers if will continue to work so long it isn't subject to unreasonable abuse. Software may need to be reinstalled and unfortunately some of the media it is recorded on does degrade...

    • @zdanee
      @zdanee Před 4 lety +8

      Sectors are so big on those you can drill a hole in the platter and tell the head to just go around and all you loose is 1 bit of data.

    • @zdanee
      @zdanee Před 4 lety +2

      @@redmage777 That's mostly true to old equipement that doesn't require cooling, since the most usual failing point is the solder, and when something heats up to 90C then back down to 20 several times a day for years and years, that will kill the joints after a time. So your new shiny Macbook Pro will be in the garbage in a decade tops, while these machines will still work just fine.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78 Před 4 lety +4

      @@redmage777 There were some periods like the early nineties (first gen leaky electrolytic SMD caps) and late nineties (bad quality / cheap leaking / bulging electrolytic caps) that gave PC manufacturing a bad rap.

  • @donk2c
    @donk2c Před 4 lety +282

    LGR: does literally everything
    That one panel: *bro I’m outta here*

    • @carnivorebear6582
      @carnivorebear6582 Před 4 lety +5

      That will be fixed with a good tug and the adhesive that follows

    • @Walczyk
      @Walczyk Před 4 lety

      huh that panel was fine by the end?

    • @ctwilli0950
      @ctwilli0950 Před 4 lety +1

      Gen Z memers, no one will understand...

  • @nerysk3255
    @nerysk3255 Před 4 lety +1

    The final result is incredibly satisfying. It looks brand new.

  • @AkosJaccik
    @AkosJaccik Před 4 lety +22

    Ah, HDD Instant Type 2. The good stuff.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Před 4 lety +79

    The slow but musical-sounding Seagate ST-225 is one of the most reliable hard drives ever made. But the huge, clunky ST-4038... not so much. I don't think I've ever come across a fully working one. They draw so much power that they like to burn out resistors on their circuit board.

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Před 3 lety

      I have a ST-4096 and it works very well. It took a few power cycles to get it to unlock the first time but it hasn't given me any trouble ever since.

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy Před 3 lety +1

      Still have my ST-225

    • @douro20
      @douro20 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KameraShy I have one as well. It is in storage along with the mating controller.

  • @taya86334
    @taya86334 Před 4 lety +40

    I love it when the panel keeps falling down

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 Před 4 lety +1

      It looks like someone had merely hot-glued it, and over time the glue dried up and wouldn't hold the panel in place.

    • @tomypower4898
      @tomypower4898 Před 4 lety

      Edward Cai oh yees! is diet

  • @ecarter2747
    @ecarter2747 Před 4 lety +3

    This brought back so many memories of my IBM XT 8088 as a teenager (which I really wish I could have held on to, but life got in the way). A very impressive restoration. Loading "Wheel of Fortune" was the icing on the cake.

  • @AFishNamedBob
    @AFishNamedBob Před 4 lety +1

    WOW Hearing that Wheel of Fortune start-up music instantly took me back to being a kid!!! Thank you for that.

  • @TheLegoPerson
    @TheLegoPerson Před 4 lety +46

    Wahoo! I love watching these classic computers get the love they deserve, restoration videos are always welcome!

    • @konstantingrujevski7358
      @konstantingrujevski7358 Před 4 lety +3

      Yea!

    • @zanite8650
      @zanite8650 Před 4 lety +2

      I really like when he replaces the older parts with shiny new ones. E.g. the screws for the floppy disk drive.

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson Před 4 lety +1

      @@zanite8650 me too! It's very satisfying

  • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
    @Not-Great-at-Gaming Před 4 lety +13

    Back in the day, my friend played that version of Wheel of Fortune so much, he knew all of the answers as soon as they appeared. I think there were only a about 200 puzzles.

  • @daveinthailand
    @daveinthailand Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, my first PC my mate showed me this PC and I offered him my Amiga as a swap he looked at me like I was stupid he agreed and ran out of the house with my Amega I was more than happy because I always wanted a PC and you could get more pro packages wow this brings back memories I think I would love one now for nostalgia

  • @RegularCars
    @RegularCars Před 4 lety +67

    I am excte

  • @Mad3011
    @Mad3011 Před 4 lety +80

    13:22 I like that this has become a meme

    • @raggededge82
      @raggededge82 Před 4 lety +14

      When the Beck graphic appeared I cracked up

    • @thinygamer9408
      @thinygamer9408 Před 4 lety +1

      Where is that sound actually from though?
      I've definitely heard it before

    • @poble
      @poble Před 4 lety +8

      B E C K

    • @Mad3011
      @Mad3011 Před 4 lety +8

      @@thinygamer9408 It's a default Windows sound. The joke is a reference to Clint's previous video.

    • @Schwarzorn
      @Schwarzorn Před 4 lety +1

      I almost cried. Hahaha

  • @JL3001
    @JL3001 Před 4 lety +6

    Laughed out loud @ the Windows Me noise and the Beck graphic from that CLASSIC movie used at 13:23.

  • @DarkestAngel2ndCh
    @DarkestAngel2ndCh Před 2 lety +2

    We have such compatiable all around hardware that is so fast and plays everything... Watching the older hardware and seeing all it took to get it running, the cords, the cards, the connections, all the floppies, even some machines used special ram, it's just so fascinating to watch the process of getting these older machines to run proper

  • @LovingMyJourney
    @LovingMyJourney Před rokem

    I don't understand a lot you talk about, but I still like to watch. I like computers, but I'm not knowledgeable about electronics. I bought my first computer in '93 and have loved them ever since.

  • @FoxyLittleNuggets
    @FoxyLittleNuggets Před 4 lety +19

    The sound of that keyboard brings back so many memories from working on one in my office back in the lat 80s!
    You could use that keyboard as a bat'leth!

    • @e.s.l5861
      @e.s.l5861 Před 4 lety +1

      David Coulter hahaha your comment was appreciated by all the alpha-nerds watching
      It sure made me chuckle

    • @clackmannan
      @clackmannan Před 4 lety

      I still use on a daily basis :)

    • @aCivilServant
      @aCivilServant Před 4 lety +1

      I use the IBM Model M keyboard as shown in the video as my daily driver. Really good IBM quality.

  • @andi
    @andi Před 4 lety +50

    There's really nothing better than a 37 minute LGR video on a Friday :D

  • @DamnedSilly
    @DamnedSilly Před 4 lety +1

    Oh wow. I haven't seen one of those for so long. Actually used the chassis of one all the way up 'til I built my second 486 and finally bought a tower.

  • @MichaelAStanhope
    @MichaelAStanhope Před 4 lety +1

    dude, that Seagate ST-225 sounds wonderful! I don't think any of those have ever failed to this day :). Memories of 1984 come flooding back every time I hear an ST-225 chirp.

  • @dan3a
    @dan3a Před 4 lety +94

    flat head screw : disintegrates
    LGR : Ok let's take the allen driver
    Allen part of the screw : *DISINTEGRATES*

    • @suborbitalprocess
      @suborbitalprocess Před 4 lety +17

      LGR with the angle grinder: You're coming off. _That's not a request._

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 Před 4 lety +2

      @Marginally Sapient Cactus It wasn't on and it's already survived decades of neglect so I don't think it would've hurt to drill through the old screws, as in some cases it will create less mess than a dremmel

    • @qwave54
      @qwave54 Před 4 lety +1

      @@suborbitalprocess [scene missing] Okay, we'll take that off later.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety

      he could also just disintegrate the rest of the screw.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 Před 4 lety

      @@HappyBeezerStudios the rust extended to the bottom case so he's gonna have a bad time removing the power supply

  • @mkelly0x20
    @mkelly0x20 Před 4 lety +76

    > 30 Minutes Later
    [Windows ME Music]
    heheheh

    • @ketonblaziken
      @ketonblaziken Před 4 lety

      With a couple frames of BECK

    • @fredcommandeur8809
      @fredcommandeur8809 Před 4 lety

      I think that piece of music was a fragment of tetris 4000 by starting a level, then you hear that same music part.

  • @EddyMetal60
    @EddyMetal60 Před 4 lety +1

    Good restore job. I remember playing that exact wheel of fortune game back in the 80's. Ah the good old days.

  • @doyoulikecocoa6208
    @doyoulikecocoa6208 Před 4 lety +1

    Seeing Clint peeking into the camera made me so happy!

  • @rastusbojangles
    @rastusbojangles Před 4 lety +59

    that hard drive looks like it would survive reentry into the Earth's atmosphere

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond Před 4 lety +1

      I had one of those exploding at me a few days ago. Tantalum capacitor...

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 Před 4 lety +3

      I remember replacing the original 20MB disk on my 286 clone with 100MB - probably paid over $120 for it back in the day
      I. Jones: " IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! "

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 Před 4 lety

      Old Seagates are the bomb. I swear they will run forever if you treat them nice.

    • @randywatson8347
      @randywatson8347 Před 4 lety +1

      It could kill an elephant.

    • @Filip_Phreriks
      @Filip_Phreriks Před 4 lety +1

      @@kingneutron1 What did you need so much capacity for?

  • @macro820
    @macro820 Před 4 lety +29

    "I like the way it snaps." Spoken like a true killer

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting Před 4 lety +2

      Not to mention the way he chuckles in every video, lol

  • @Stolkie1337
    @Stolkie1337 Před 4 lety +3

    Can I just say that every time one of these videos gets released my hearts skips a beat of happiness and excitement. Something that feels normal and like home in times that absolutely nothing is normal 😂

  • @swiftfox3461
    @swiftfox3461 Před 4 lety +4

    "Computer loudly whirs to life" is probably the coolest sentence in existence.

  • @JTCgmail9
    @JTCgmail9 Před 4 lety +10

    Boy are those machines A-blast from my past. Those of the 1st P c's I actually repaired when I got into computer repairs. Thanks for the video in memory lane run.

  • @eumoria
    @eumoria Před 4 lety +259

    "Hey Flerpelnerp"
    ...excuse me?
    :::Flerpelnerp Answers::
    ...k

    • @troyBORG
      @troyBORG Před 4 lety +1

      how do you set that up?

    • @stevenA44
      @stevenA44 Před 4 lety

      @@troyBORG Yea I'd like to know what that is and how to do that as well.

    • @Grimm-Gaming
      @Grimm-Gaming Před 4 lety +4

      @@stevenA44 Google home lets u call it whatever u want vs Alexa wont listen to anything you ask.

    • @stevenA44
      @stevenA44 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Grimm-Gaming Well, looks like I'm going to have to get me a Google Home then! My Alexa is dumb as hell sometimes! LOL

    • @Grimm-Gaming
      @Grimm-Gaming Před 4 lety

      @@stevenA44 Same thats y i disabled it on my Sonos soundbar

  • @yuanchiwang
    @yuanchiwang Před 4 lety +8

    The profile picture finally comes alive.

  • @bw4593
    @bw4593 Před rokem

    I really kind of miss that old chunky power supply switch. Something so satisfying about flipping those switches and hearing the humm and clicks and beeps of these old PCs coming to life ❤

  • @christopherlange4475
    @christopherlange4475 Před 4 lety +29

    ibm was probably using overstock of xt cases up to make these "bargin" 286's

    • @LGR
      @LGR  Před 4 lety +9

      That's a popular theory, actually! It's never been proven though.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff Před 4 lety +2

      @@LGR I was at IBM in the late 80s, on the PC (or by that time mostly PS/2) side of things. Nobody there has ever been able to explain this one to me.

  • @ShayneJohnson
    @ShayneJohnson Před 3 lety +1

    Oh man, that hard drive chirping takes me back. My very first computer was a PS/2 model 30 with a 20MB HDD, and it made those same noises. Total nostalgia bomb.

  • @mechguy83
    @mechguy83 Před 4 lety

    wow, that classic boot up sounds, those fans, the hard drives clicking and chirping...brings back warm fuzzies from my youth.

  • @drew8235
    @drew8235 Před 4 lety +47

    3:41 My actual reaction when anything goes wrong on my computer.

  • @ggezlol-
    @ggezlol- Před 4 lety +38

    Clint "I have two of them"
    I would expect nothing less sir

  • @tiamat_023
    @tiamat_023 Před 3 lety

    there's something therapeutic (maybe it's just nostalgia) about watching your vdeos. My dad was a small business PC guy back in the late 80s and early 90s. I used to help him build PCs all the time -- as well as working on my own. I remember my custom 286 fondly =).

  • @rsp6549
    @rsp6549 Před 4 lety +11

    The Navy bought 10's of thousands of those. I remember them well.

  • @Lee01Mr
    @Lee01Mr Před 4 lety +6

    Aaahhhhh a relaxing video with a cup of tea, thank you Clint!

  • @joerig96
    @joerig96 Před 4 lety +6

    Damn 1991, remind me a lot of my middle school years, playing those late 80s - early 90s dos pc games with 286 IBM compatible machine 😎✌️

  • @Mr3ff
    @Mr3ff Před 4 lety

    Watching you restore computers, giving them a good cleaning, getting excited about getting them powered up... it really soothes my soul. Thanks always, Clint.

  • @nikebafe
    @nikebafe Před 3 lety

    Really brings up the memories.. my first computer but with monochrome screen.. Mother bought it for my 11th or 12th birthday, i remember i couldnt get sleep cause of excitement and in the morning straight from bed switching big red button and browsing through Norton Commander playing games like Prince of Persia, Eagle, Street Rod and others. Eventually i start to neglect school and mother locked PC lock and hide keys but i found the way to open it with the casing of a pen. Tnx Clint for your effort reviving those childhood feelings.

  • @TheKreAt0r
    @TheKreAt0r Před 4 lety +13

    Soon as video start, hears first LGR Foods music. Gets confused as to why I'm hungry, except looking at vintage pc

  • @DrakkarCalethiel
    @DrakkarCalethiel Před 4 lety +13

    Damn, 20 seconds after release! For some reason, I want to put some high end hardware in that case for a sleeper. :D

    • @SatomiForward
      @SatomiForward Před 4 lety +1

      Been on my mind since my first LGR hardware restoration vid.

    • @TG626
      @TG626 Před 4 lety +1

      I put a homeless apple IIe in one.

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 Před 4 lety

      @Why Tho I like the idea. Got a G4 and a couple of G5 Power Mac cases I'd like to modify like that, but preferably to install something a little cooler than a bog standard Intel or AMD PC. If I had the money to throw around, I'd try it with a Blackbird motherboard, a micro ATX workstation board that takes a Power9 CPU.

  • @TheTweakshot
    @TheTweakshot Před 4 lety +1

    Hi LGR, I found your video of you visiting that computer place in Dallas, I really like how you talk about old shit you find and I can tell you have a passion for sharing your thoughts/opinions/information. I don't delve into stuff that pre-dates the early 90's but I was excited along with you opening these things up and seeing just how easy they are to fix with the large traces, large chips of silicon. I liked listening to the sounds of retro hardware/software, it all sounded like it means business

  • @Ferg13
    @Ferg13 Před 3 lety +2

    I just started watching your videos not to long ago. This one so far is my favourite. I’ve been into computers since 2000. Self taught. Can be very frustrating at times but in the end if it all works out. That’s the reward. Love seeing these old pc’s still living. Keep up the awesome job. I still have lots to learn. And over learn lots In little time I’ve began watching your videos. And I’ll keep watching as king as you out then out there.

  • @GzeeBRII
    @GzeeBRII Před 4 lety +91

    Dad always asks me: "Why do you have so much computers?"
    Dad will never understand the pleasure in making then race against each other.
    The only race where the slower gets the prize

    • @SoKette
      @SoKette Před 4 lety +1

      "Of course this 20 year old can run 5 miles ! But what about this 103 year old grampa ?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @aquilux-vids
    @aquilux-vids Před 4 lety +8

    For that rusted case, look into getting some evapo-rust. They've got a liquid you can immerse things in and a gel you can spread. Does a great job of dissolving away iron corrosion and at least the liquid can be used more than once.

  • @Braven9975
    @Braven9975 Před 3 lety

    Oh my goodness, I hate to say it but I do miss the sounds that your machine is making, it reminds me of the old days when computers were very simple. Thanks Clint!

  • @eggburtjones3333
    @eggburtjones3333 Před 4 lety +2

    Lovely restoration... the XT cleaned up beautifully and runs a champion! I love the simplistic, no-nonsense design of this era of machines... there’s something just so satisfying about the XT/AT/PS2 design and I’d love to build a sleeper in one if I could get a case.

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals Před 4 lety +60

    24:10 sounds like a Black Mesa laboratory (from Half-Life lol)

    • @srredfire
      @srredfire Před 4 lety +4

      Immediately what I thought as well

    • @SteamsDev
      @SteamsDev Před 4 lety +3

      Starfals Oh yes, totally.

    • @bojanatanaskovic2465
      @bojanatanaskovic2465 Před 4 lety +1

      Nice catch! Maybe they literally took the sound from the IBM?

    • @HAZARDOUS88
      @HAZARDOUS88 Před 4 lety

      Nice catch indeed!

    • @MondySpartan
      @MondySpartan Před 4 lety +2

      Sounds more like the one heard in its remake counterpart Black Mesa.

  • @ronniepirtlejr2606
    @ronniepirtlejr2606 Před 4 lety +6

    I just watched one of your videos. AOL and it reminded me of something.....
    You should do an episode on the old Microsoft web TV!

  • @JesseDylanMusic
    @JesseDylanMusic Před 4 lety

    I had a 286 in 1991 or 1990. I didn't realize how outdated it was. It had a 256-color, 320x240 graphics card. I can't remember how much RAM it had, and the hard disk was hilariously small, like less than 50MB. I was going to say it was only 24MB, but that can't be right. A guy at the software store legit laughed in my face and said, "That's a dinosaur!" when he found out it was a 286. The store clerk got mad at him! That same store clerk tried to help me install a SoundBlaster in that machine, but we never could figure out why it wouldn't work. Ah, memories. Thanks, LGR! And thanks to nice workers at Waldensoftware for putting up with pre-teen me!

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 Před 4 lety

    So many memories! From the sound of them booting up to the cramped space inside the case. The through hole architecture. The (resulting) physical size of everything. I mean, that disc controller was enormous! It was just so much fun watching this video. Thanks so much!

  • @pyry1738
    @pyry1738 Před 4 lety +3

    Ah this is my lullaby for tonight.

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 Před 4 lety +16

    Haven't watched this dude in awhile, but I still think he sounds like either a used car salesman or a game show host!

  • @johnnylochs6704
    @johnnylochs6704 Před 4 lety

    @LGR The subtitles are fantastic “Chill assembly music” “whirs loudly to life” great stuff!

  • @whoremoan6841
    @whoremoan6841 Před 4 lety

    I had one of these. It was my very first PC that I bought off someone I worked with in about 1991. Brought back a lot of memories.
    My Hard Disk made exactly the same noise!
    Awesome video.