I got SCREWED! Lennox CBX32 blower replacement w/ unexpected gift from contractor at the end 😡
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2018
- I originally diagnosed the problem of the bad blower motor on a Tuesday. It took one day to get the parts and I came back on Thursday to install the motor and board. In the meantime the contractors working on a remodeling project in the house left me the gift of a "screw" through my thermostat wire. This was sending power to Y + G. You guessed it, the outdoor unit was running in heat. Thank goodness for high pressure switches! Be aware that some of these new units are now sending DC volts to the "X13 type" blower motors to turn them on and adjust the speeds. With the wiring harness plugged into the blower the DC voltage should be about half of what it is with the harness unplugged.
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Pictures of "Screwed" t-stat wire ⬇️
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Holy shit. Good catch bro.
Great job troubleshooting; God bless!
Sounds like you got screwed. 😮😂😂
Real nice.🎉Thank You
I always staple my wires midway up on the joists
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Great troubleshooting on those wires to isolate the problem
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Damn
0:45 the bloder
That's blower and motor put together. #teamBloder 😄👍
I never edited anything out of my videos. 😎👍😎👍😎👍
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As much as that sucked things like that make you equally emotionally happy to find the problem. Great job finding that.
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Stumbled upon this while looking for solutions to a 292 error code. Didn’t solve my problem but a fun detour and restored my hope that there are could be great HVAC techs like yourself in my area. My experience with others has been garbage.
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Great video as always Shannon... Sharp find. Big fan, appreciate your sharing.
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Great find!!!!
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I have stuff like that I just pak it up and come another day refreshed and ready to fix it
His wife was starting to break a sweat and he wasn't gonna get no lovin' if I didn't get that AC on.
😂😂😂 💦💦💦💦
Don’t ya love it.
dam that's he'll caught cause I guess when u check stat it show u had power like it wasn't a broke line. have give u super tech badge as Nor Cal Dave would say. thanks 4 videos ive learn alot from you. cause I'm sitting at shop in my van waiting 4 next call watching ur videos
Hope you charged them approximately!!!!! Good investigative work finding the problem
I know it sucks but be proud that you found it! Many guys would have not.
Great job and video
Thanks Donnie , appreciate you watching 😎👍
Wow, that’s GREAT troubleshooting 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
That one was pretty fun. Kind of threw me for a loop. Since I was just there a couple of days earlier. I've been back there since then and those guys made a real mess out of that drop ceiling.
This has happenend to me 10x when we used to work along side house rehab guys... they even would cut off wires not knowing what they went to. Usually it was tstat wires that they cut and shoved down into walls... wtf?... crazy
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Merry Christmas 🎅🎄🎁
Just tuned in to your channel impressive find. it would have drove me crazy.
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The problem with the Lennox warranty is that sure, they provide the parts, etc, but the owner pays for your time. At least that is what I was told. I have a CBA27UHE-30 and I hear some slight squashing noises.
Charge them triple, i do when they piss me off
Yep ass hole charge
Amazing how people are so careless...clueless etc.
Gota love when someone else is working in the same area and doesn't pay attention to the existing wiring. Good catch. Back charge the other contractor for all of your time.
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@@sknight0391 didnt notice how long ago this was.. lol
Yeah, I've seen drywall guys yank off strike plates covering gas and power wiring lines. Even saw one actually strike a live wire behind the panel they just put up. Gotta love when people don't care.
I hope you billed accordingly
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Great video I appreciate your posting and how frustrating it was for you to get to the bottom of this awful situation for both you and the homeowner. In 2013 I got my CBX32MV-036-230-6-06 with XC21 and after doing business with several companies my system has had one failure after another and I have been charged for repairs that Lennox corporate said should have been warranty covered but I got charged anyway and corporate refused to help me saying it was a civil matter between myself and the local company. I had several iComfort thermostats fail lasting about 18 months each and only the first one covered by Warranty. I replaced with the S30 thermostat recently praying for better luck. I had the XC21 dual pole contactor fail in the on mode that confused the condenser control board so the compressor ran without the condenser fan running and the compressor ran until it cut out via thermal internal protection. Took several service calls and service techs before the old guy found the sticking contactor and replaced it. The duel pole contactor they charged me $167 and the old guy gave me the failed one and I bought replacement contactor for $8 online so I have a spare. The very expensive $800 XC21 dc variable speed condenser fan bearings failed but got new one under warranty. Recently the air handler motor failed and they charged me $500 but from what I understand that has 10 year warranty and I should not have been charged. Now I have a refrigerant leak and was said will cost me $1500 to repair but I said no put refrigerant and its a slow leak that was detected years ago. That cost me $300 for two pounds of refrigerant and a service call that the service call should have been under the annual contact I have for inspections and cleaning and refrigerant is not more than $30 a pound for R410A unless I am mistaken. I am no expert but am electronics tech and I used to help the air conditioning techs at work when they needed a weak mind with a strong back to help them lift stuff or hold the flashlight. I doubt I will ever buy a high SEER system again, the parts and service is just too expensive. I am in southeastern Florida. Now I have a alarm on the S30 but no code yet so I plan to check the thermostat wiring for mice damage next using continuity meter. Since you are good tech I hope to see more videos how to get the CBX32MV-036-230-6-06 with the XC21 work without having to spend $1000 for a S30 thermostat and use something less expensive like other smart thermostats on the market. Thanks again for a very interesting video and be careful the work you do can be dangerous and I am sure the news you had to share for this one was not fun when you had to advise the homeowner what you discovered. And I paid $8000 for my 3 ton Dave Lennox signature system in may of 2013 with a $1000 rebate from FP&L. Godspeed.
Best of luck to you in the future. As you mentioned, when the time comes to replace that unit I would definitely consider going with a more basic simple unit instead of the high seer fancy stuff. And I would probably steer away from Lennox also. Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found the video helpful. 😎👍
@@sknight0391 Did I have to spend all that money to buy S30 thermostat to retain the 21 SEER or could I have used the Google Nest thermostat? I am confused that works with the Lennox i+ and i- Thermostat system. I heard less expensive thermostats work okay but lower the SEER to 16 or is that just more bs?
@@dennissytsma3561 I would not recommend a Nest.
@@sknight0391 Thank you for the feedback. So the S30 thermostat was a good decision? It was $950 installed with 5 year warranty
alot of your charges on price with certain parts is because you have a parts warranty and labor warranty. labor is only the first year. the parts is 10 years. so you get the part for free but have to pay labor to put it in. it sucks but thats just the way things are.
Just wait till you do a outdoor control board for a XP21. Just a absolute stupid headache to program
Been there done that. Right at 5:00 in the afternoon & just barely got one of the Lennox tech support guys on the phone.. either the directions they have in the literature don't make any sense or I'm an idiot. Because I couldn't get it to accept the tonnage of unit or the style of fan blade. Those 3 stupid blinking dash marks = . 😂👌
I'm not looking forward to ever having to do one of the inverter boards on the xp25 . The Bosch boards are bad enough. Especially when the girl at the office thinks you can get it done in 30 minutes.
Shannon Knight HVAC push button release button push button release oops start over 😂😂
@@joeshearer1247 exactly!!!
I’ll give you a tip on these communicating 4 wire motors put 24vac on common and Rx wire for a go/no go test. I have hooked my oscilloscope to the tx/rx wires to look at the communications packets on the one I worked on because I had a code for no communication to blower motor. I saw what appeared to be good communications on the wires. Put 24vac to common and rx and motor would rock but not start. Diagnosed bad motor.
@@joeshearer1247 I've haven't tried it yet but I've been told that you can use a regular x13 motor tester, like the Supco, on these motors to start/test them . I guess the 24 volt pins start the motor up and the DC current pins ramp up and down.
Phew...
One for the HVAC h.o.f.
Damn dude that sucks man!!!
Yep, that did suck. I had close up pictures of the thermostat wire, after I pulled the screw out, on my phone somewhere but can't find it.
What brand clamp meter is that ? Nice find 👍🏼
That is a Uni-T brand meter.
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@@sknight0391 thx
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 screwed to the max. Fk n carpenters 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Great info thank you. There is very little info on Lennox ECM 3.0 blower motors. I have two identical units. Changed module on blw mtr. Dealer said warranty exp 2 mo ago. Very expensive $$$. Purchased module at cost still exp.. Will change to PSC mtr next time.
Was charged $2500.00 for faulted compressor. under warranty. Replaced about 4 thermostats at $450.00 each. Now attempting my own service & repair. Looking for other good brand A/C. Lennox are not my favorite anymore. Will never buy another! What is a good A/C?. I am open to all suggestions. Used Goodman in the past with no problems for rental property. No bells or whistles, keep it simple.
Thanks again
Goodman is cheap and simple. And sometimes that's not a bad thing.
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I would certainly bring it to their attention. They need to know that they fucked it up. And that's probably why it wouldn't sense it's own equipment. It kind of sounded like it was a communicating. And communicating can sense its own equipment that's hooked up. And that screw's probably why it didn't. HVAC is so stressful. You're a good man. And you got screwed all right. Excellent pun. I just saw this video was 2 years old.
I keep getting E201 on my system and ive chnaged the blower/ECM and the control board and its still giving me the error code. I can turn the blower on in test mode but when i seitch back to run mode it may run for a minute and then give me the E201 error. I dont know ehat to do😢
Got to be kidding!
Lmao!
I salute you sir.
I only hope your getting what your worth.
Keep fighting the good fight!
Had floor guy nail low voltage too many stories to tell
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Thanks for the great video! Where can I get instructions on how to configure the board and what tool(s) is necessary?
All the instructions come with the new motor and board. Thanks for watching 😎👍
wow wtf geez what a headache
It was definitely an Excedrin moment. Thanks for watching Joey 😎👍
Which pins did you check vDC readings ?
If I remember correctly it's the two outer wires on the top molex plug that has 4 wires on it so the far-left and the far-right wires. 😎👍
I HOPED that either your or your office charged the owner for that.. Coming in on your time to put the parts in is one thing. That accident there, which i'm sure wasn't on purpose, but you guys needed to be compensated for that extra time...
You get the Sherlock Holmes award! 👋
The 6-7 volts Dc. Is that between c and +V. C and Rx or C and Tx? Please and thank you.
If I remember correctly it's the two outside pins. But I couldn't swear to that.
At first glance I thought that would be a standard X-13 Motor with 24 Volt speed taps. After watching this video again I noticed it only had 4 wire connector instead of 5 connector for the blower speed, could a technician assume that there will be ac volts for a 5 Terminal and dc volts for a 4 Terminal? Also was the dc voltage constant or pulsating? Good Video👍
Don't really know about the four and five terminal thing . But the voltage was steady, it did not fluctuate. THANKS FOR WATCHING! 😎👍
One question........who pays for that snafu or you get paid by the job?
I get paid by the hour. So I got paid. But the company just had to eat it. The timing on that was just crazy how that happened. What a crazy coincidence!
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It's a unfinished basement why bother with ceiling had a chain around a beam holding a punching bag shorted out low voltage wire
Ha, the old punching bag trick. Thanks for watching Bob 😎👍
Merry Christmas. 🎅
Do you know the model number for that motor
No not right off hand. 😎👍
@@sknight0391 ok thanks for the quick response
Wow! I know that really pisses me off when you get a dumb ass contractor that jacks up other peoples work. Recently had a no heat at a house where I had done a P.M. a month earlier. Found the concentric vent that terminated off the side of the house was now in a sealed enclosure thanks to the contractor that redid the siding for my customer.
Yep, been there and done that too. Thanks for watching Bill 😎👍
So do you bill the contractor for your time?
Nope. Thanks for watching 👍
That some shit
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Amateur