H.L.M.S. - Sinanju, Sinanju Stein, Neo Zeong (The coolest Neo Zeon's MS)
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0:00 Intro
0:25 UC Project
1:15 Sinanju Stein (MSV)
7:26 Sinanju
13:05 Neo Zeong
19:40 Sinanju Stein (Narrative Ver.) + II Neo Zeong
24:33 Ending
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The ring could be psycho frame that can be expanded and retracted like the solar panels in ISS, the explosion in unicorn and banshee weapons could be the result of high levels of radiation/electromagnetism that forced the ammo to explode i.e a big microwave that explode equipment not protected
You are the scientist guy as always, let me pin you
@@zethythonix well this is an assumption since, as you mentioned in the video, an explanation was never given
@@silverknightgundam1196 but still like close enough to explanation
while i like the idea but if there was that much radiation to make the weapons combust that quickly, its also cooking the pilots
@@devildavin space magic protection
So basically the Sinanju was made when the Sazabi and the Nu Gundam decided to screw when Char and Amuro weren't around.
It's a one-night-stand that created a rather nice-looking child.
They had two kids and one of them decided to follow in Sazabi's footsteps and the other one was just dragged along
I mean, the Narrative Gundam was the result of a one-night stand between the Nu and the Unicorn, so I guess the Nu gets around.
Feds: end zeon
AE: sells NZ and the Sleeves more MS in a fake fight made to look like theft
Feds: wow convient that the MS designed by ex zeonic is in zeons hands, guess they just got lucky
AE: *whistles* and looks away
More like, AE: Here's a bunch of high performance MS on the cheap.
Pick two from the top or three from the bottom.
Feds: All is forgiven!
AE post Gryps conflict is the real antagonist of most of the UC timeline. They're basically the LOGOS from GSD or basically any American weapons company in real life. The merchants of death who profit off of the conflict and seek the wars to continue.
I loved everything about Unicorn, including the space magic.
Also, I don't think they Banagher and Full Frontal physically traveled through time, but rather had an out-of-body experience, with their machines serving as a kind of art house representation of their metaphysical bodies.
They were more exagerated in the Zeta and Double Z gundam, they personalized what the new types sense when they faced other new type.
And this travel could have been another "travel" that both experimented just in their heads in an instant.
@@CarlosdCover I heard some people say that too.
i want a Jedi and Sith Mobile Suit Gundam!
@@JeanLucCaptain I didn't think of Unicorn like that.
Ah "space magic" beyond explanation
Yep
Just like 00 😎
You say this like it's a bad thing.
@@korbinservergundam Gundam fans always act like this even though this shit has been engrained in Gundam's identity since the beginning.
@557deadpool Exactly. The very start of gundam had new types and unexplainable Philomena. Honestly, it's only gotten better as more series have been made.
I still think the entire time travel of Unicorn and Neo Zeong only happened in a blink of an eye.
It might be like that, but the time travel thing is still too magical
I agree. I don't think they travelled at all. I think it was a vision.
My guess would be that the frame of Sinanju Stein was left in workable and then once the first one was destroyed, they used spare parts to rebuild it. Plus it would have some strange sinergy in the movie, considering most of the new units are basically spare units cobbled up together.
i wanna know where the NZ-555 is lol.
That makes sense and that’s what I thought how the narrative version of the sinanju stien
Zeon was falling apart so being made up of left overs makes sense
I’m fairly certain that instead of using the second unit’s parts they used the first units leftover parts post modification to Full Frontal’s needs, the wiki only mentions the use of the Sinanju’s parts in the red comet version of it
Dont worry about plot holes, star wars is full of them now, since comics and novels says something but suddenly the live actions tells something a little different. In the end the animated/live action part, have more weight and new content overwrites old content. bc is easy to say "it was a lie"
I think on the math on the wired funnels is off. If each arm has 10 funnels, and there are two arms on the front and four in the back, then that brings the total wired funnels to 60. So basically... you're screwed if you go up against this mobile armor or II Neo Zeong unless you have plot armor. Because convenience plot is convenient.
unless you're a powerful new-type piloting rx-0
Gotta love that Fist of the North Star reference...
YES, you got it!
It just shows how much of an Ossan I am XD
I thought the Rozen Zulu only used the Sinanjus data when it was constructed.
Never heard anything about it using it's parts.
There are some of the sinanju Stein's thruster back pack, namely the cover parts, are used next to the psycho jammer storage units.
also I know that the sheild of that 1/60 scale metal nu that came with no fin funnels a few years back looked like the one from the rozen zulu so assumably it used bits from the sheild.
Other than that my best guess is that there is leg frame used for the tall legs.
I think the NT thing did happen, and there was another Shinanju because considering that they took apart one of them, they could’ve made a blueprint on how to create a Shinanju, so the one we see in NT is actually a third one built by Zeon instead of the federation
this is just what I needed it worth the wait keep up the outstandingly amazing job be safe and take care
The shards look to be derived from Stargazer ans Moon gundam. Space magic just turns it into time machine
NT Stien is either remade from leftovers or made from data.
As for how the unicorn and Neo Zeong did their finale other than space magic I think that the sheer amount of psycho frame present and how the NtD system works just increased the new type powers 10000 fold along with full frontal being a literal char clone and sinanju having some psycho frame salvaged from sazabi which could contain some of char.
Still space magic but it has some basis in gundam
Hey man, thanks for your hard work. You deserves every good things in life.
Take it easy and be safe always.
I started cackling when the Southern Cross Style descriptions came in. God job on keeping the explanations fresh and amusing.
Amazing as always, keep it up 🔥👍
He-Man the video was amazing like always keep up the good work
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
- Arthur C. Clarke
My thought on the Sinanju Stein is that it is the frame of unit two with some of the original armor and components with the rest being modified parts from other units to get the frame operational again.
I like the way the anime final battle ended a little more. I feel like it fits Banagher’s character better for the death of full frontal to not be completely intentional.
I don't see why Neo Zeon couldn't have built another Sinaju Stein. We know they had the production abilities to build all manner of other advanced weapons. So there is no reason I can think of that they couldn't build another one once they got the data.
Weapons in this series are always built way too fast. It seems like mobile suits can be churned out in days or hours once the tech is developed.
And I can understand your critiques of the magic stuff, but I have a couple points to make too:
1. Any technology sufficiently advanced will just look like magic. If you showed a TV to someone from the year 1500 they'd call it witchcraft.
2. And the magic stuff dates all the way back to the original series. Whether we like it or not - and I tend to favor less crazy newtype stuff - it is very much part of the UC timeline.
The space magic was thick with this one
quite nice! thanks a lot
My fave Zeon MS was always the Kampfer but Sinanju took that spot.
It feels stupid naming a mech Sinanju stein and upgrading it to Sinanju, it's like making strike freedom first before Freedom gundam lol
The naming way sounds stupid, but somehow it make sense, Stein means "stone" in German, meaning it's the beginning stone of the future path
@@zethythonix they should have named it "Stein", and not "Sinanju Stein"
@@zerociel27 naming way is stupid, but I think the better way is rename it completely
This is an awesome video
Ah.... the Neo Zeong the mobile armor that I believe is the perfect match for the full armor Nu Gundam.
Now if only the sinanju had full body green psycho-frame like the 3 Unicorn Gundams then this mobile suit would be the perfect (Dark souls like) Boss fight worthy of Amuro Ray's skills and Char and Amuro's fight would be legendary. Unlike the end of the Char's Counterattack Movie where Sazabi was destroyed all the way down to the cockpit and Nu Gundam only lost all of its weapons and only got a beam saber cut on its crotch where I believe the atmosphere re-entry device is located ( watch the first Gundam series when the RX-78-2 Gundam is re-entering the atmosphere). Then after the movie the Nu Gundam gets a lot of love in the form of multiple full armor designs, a second rack of fin funnels, and a ver ka with full body psycho-frame while the Sazabi gets nothing but more thrusters (this does not seem fair to me considering that these two mobile suits are supposed to be rivals).
Also I have a theory that the federation wanted to give Neo Zeon both the Sinanju Steins so that the federation could justify the creation of the Unicorn Gundam project by giving Neo Zeon 2 outdated mobile suits (outdated compared to the 3 overpowered Unicorn Gundams).
Personal I like the Sinanju as it is one of my top 11 favorite giant robots of all time, so thank you Zethythoix for the video as you did a great job at it.
It is also just sad that the Sinanju Stein needs to have more psycho-frame to be a match for any of the 3 Unicorn Gundams.
@Neo Alteisen yes
Thanks for your hardwork, i enjoyed the explanation.. next how about crossbone gundam
Out of all the non Gundam mobile suits in the franchise, the sinanju stein is my all time favorite. Its easily my go to choice to pilot if I had to choose a non Gundam mobile suit.
Stein is up there for me too, though my number 1 would have to be the Talgeese 3. Honorable mentions to the Zaku II High Mobility type and the Taurus.
that is the number 1 reason i dont enjoy unicorn has well has the idea of new type in general. i was ok with the whole 6 sense thing but after they started doing stuff like time travel, ascending beyond time and space, affecting reality/reality warping, time manipulation and all that crap the UC lost its its edge it used to have.
Probebly the reason why Thunderbolt and Ms8 are my favorite out of all the gundam series.
NewType itself is very vague in the UC world, we have lore and explanations, but always just there and no quite to the core point yet
Honestly I think the 2nd sinanju Stein can be explained by several factors
Standardized parts: e.g. the side boosters are just more complex versions of the ones on the rezel
They probably fabricated spare parts before the refit
The refit likley had all new armour meaning there would be two sets of sinanju Stein armour between the kashatria, rozen zulu and sinanju Stein 2
I love how you say Full Frontal.
fun fact: while Intention Automatic System is a "proto NTD", Full Frontal ask engineer to turned down the sensitivity of the system, while Unicorn have both Intention Automatic System and NTD resulting too much sensitivity it can be sentient, so when it come to sensitivity Unicorn is more like 5 times more sensitive than FF Sinanju's and 4 times more sensitive than the OG Sinanju Stein/Stein 2 (hence why Zoltan can bleed out the use of Psychoframe in the Stein)
If that's the case, then it means that the Psycho-Frame weren't banned because of how much power it has, but rather because of how sensitive the systems used to controlling it.
@@gearthehuman2115 too many unknows basically and feds saw what Unicorn did on third neo zeon war, makes the damn thing got banned
@@timo7641 To me, it's rather because the Feddies didn't want their own tech being used to against them, Unicorn Gundam are built by them to eliminate Newtypes, but Banagher using it to stopping the colony laser from firing, which is considered as the act of resistance by feddies.
So basically the reason they're banning Psycho-Frame is same as get rid of all of the Titans mobile suit designs, to make themselves looks didn't do anything wrong at all in the public eyes.
@@gearthehuman2115 can be true, and don't forget AE makes unit for both faction, either of this faction obtain Psychoframe will be dangerous
@@timo7641 It's dangerous because of the system used to controlling it. Remember that both Nu Gundam and Sazabi has no systems to control the Psycho-Frame on it, but its pilot are still okay.
While Unicorn has NT-D on it, which could burden the pilot's mind by forcing their mind to killing the other Newtypes even if it's against their own will, the perfect replacement for NT-D to me is Trans-Am.
Although Unicorn has no GN Particles on it, but at least it'll allow the pilot to use Psycho-Frame safely.
Good vid. Regards from Malaysian utuber
Naginata is shown in the opening created for the episodic series.
What about Nithingale,why not bringing up as one of coolest MS.
He did it in the sazabi video.
Because it's the same as sazabi, how the time line works it was one or the other, if you replace "sazabi" with "nightingale" all the info would be the same
It's pretty ugly imo
Nightingale might have the largest dong in the UC
I'd love an episode on the RX78 series, there are so many cool variants from so many games, the -4 and -5 are lovely, the G-3 is unique enough, and -1 prototypes are super influenced by the real-life merchandise that Bandai put out at that time.
With Origin there's also a toncrap of new models based of it, Heavy, Water, and so on.
18:31 I still cant get over on this moment every time u said that
Fist of the North Star is GOLD
What if they just took MSN06-2’s armor off before using parts of the frame for 666 and Rozen, and in Narrative they slapped the armor on something else that had a psychoframe cockpit
Assumption sounds logical, but unfortunately we have no evidences or further information
1 If Four Murasame was still alive she would've pilot that mobile suit to help Bright, Banadger and the sleeves against the Neo Zeon.
I mean, Four is destined to die, Cyber-NewType is very hard to keep himself/herself alive without a proper medicine or stuff
I personally love the design of the Kshatriya
Lmfao when I first thought the unicorn fist fight I had the same thought
We’re still waiting on Altron Gundam and Epyon! Maybe some G-Gundam ones would be cool too since that series is so OP lol would be funny to see you try and breakdown those weapons of that series
Altron will be soon, right after Sandrock
So kyshatriya and Rozen Zulu were not made from sinanju stein, the kyshatriya is brand new, mainly based of the Queen Mansa, and the Rozen Zulu is made from the Hamma Hamma and Geara Zulu. Anahiem had nothing to do with either of them.
“Some sinanju Stein’s parts were used in the development of Kyshatriya and Rozen Zulu”
@@zethythonix the Kyshatriya is entirely brand new. The Rozen Zulu was the only one that used some parts from the sinanju, so the second Stein unit is still untouched.
@@gundamguy6651 Since this video is quite some months ago, I deleted the sources but I found the translation quote, let me translate it from my language to English for you:
"After the battle, the two Sinanju Stein was transferred to The Sleeves' asteroid base - Palau. One of the Sinanju Stein was disassembled, the parts and frame were later used to develop Rozen Zulu, and continue to perfect the Kyshatriya. The other Sinanju Stein was modified for Full Frontal's personal use, becoming the Sinanju."
Officially the Second Sinanju was the Narrative one after being reassembled. The data was what the Sleeves used to complete the other units.
the beam naginata is shown in the opening song in the gundam unicorn
To be fair, sinanju Stein is a nasty contender in EXVS2XB
We will get X Boost on PS6 lmao
Sinanju..my favourite neo zeon mobile suit..
The bazooka combine with rifle...that what i like it..
"The coolest MS in Neo Zeon"
It's true
Will you do a video on the Gundam Ground type soon?
I really love that mobile suit
Yes I will, it's on the waitlist
Ah my favorite Gundam in all but name made with and out of data gathered from the Nu and sinsnju used to create the unicorn.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
I have a love/hate feeling for A.E
I hate them for their greed and how they support most of the conflict in u.c without them most war might not happen even if it happen the side that don't have A.E support would most likely using crappy ms they're basically u.c merchant of death
I love them for their ms design all of my favorite suit are A.E design like zeta, hyaku Shiki, sinanju, nu, sazabi, Unicorn, zz, penelope, xi, jegan, rick dias, narrative, hi nu, nightingale and more
16:08 yes it is space magic
S P A C E M A G I C ! ! !
I think the second sinanju stein in narrative was built from the remains of the original sinanju.
Coming back to rewatch this, but here's a cool thought!
So you know how the Nu Gundam had a HLMS armor planned for it? Essentially, what if the Sinanju had something like that? It's silly but I think it make for an interesting custom.
You mean HWS... HLMS is my series XD
I wonder if the Shinanju Stein and RX-9 Nerrative have any design relation? both are prototype units based on the RX-93 Nu Gundam. i would love to see a Shianju based on the Hi-V Gundam and Nightengale instead of the Nu Gundam. edit: I Love how you call out the GUNDAM UNICORN SECRET TECHNIQUES lol.
The RX-9 Narrative was a data-gathering machine developed into the RX-93 Nu Gundam, wasn't it? There are so many entangled story points in the UC timeline that it's hard to keep track and confusing at times 😅
Hey I rewatch all the H.L.M.S video and I notice that you did 4 out of 5 seed suit of Duel, Buster, Blize, and Strike Gundam. Are you planning of doing the H.L.M.S of Aegis in the future?
Aegis is coming VERY VERY soon
Neo Zeong, gunpla that is a same size as 2 year old child
I saw that the backpack and leg thrusters were different between the 2 Sinanju Stein when they were shown together at different angles. I'm unsure of anything else that can help tell them apart that wasn't already said or without looking them up.
3:25 it's like iron blooded orphans where you are one with the gundam frame since they use the Alaya-Vijnana which transfer data to the pilot back spine once there is data you could feel everything (almost) i don't know much but i do know the calamity war there is like 72 gundam frames in the calamity war thats all i have good day
yeah I still see gundam narrative as exactly that a narrative of things that could have been but weren't like where did the third unicorn come from and how did they just cassually have a second giant MA just lying around
Gotta defeat space magic with even more space magic
Imagine if char had the sinanju
surely sinanju with Neo Zeong is capable to delete even the likes of Turns unit or just end the world (hence why Phenex insisted that Jona destroy it)
The whole Neo Zeong construction, idea and technologies are quite... weird and confused? The presentation in anime didn't give the answer that well though
@@zethythonix Psycho Shard is basically on how you can get to Unicorns space magic without having to have perfected newtype (but of course its a more crude way to attained it compared to awakened unicorn, for example, it basically sucked out Zoltan life when he uses it to make helium on critical levels)
Can you do all Gundam Astray Frame development history?
After the Nuclear Five
So, I just read the entire Bande Dessinee Episode 0, and then I read the entire light novel run of Unicorn. I'm not sure where you got this idea about the Stein-02 being entirely disassembled. Volume 8 Chapter 1 of the light novel mentions that there's some psychoframe spare parts in the Rozen Zulu, but it's never implied that it's an extensive amount. As for the Kshatriya, the only mentions of spare parts was in Volume 4 Chapter 3, when it was mentioned that there were spare binders installed after the earlier sortie against the Unicorn, and then in Volume 5 Chapter 8, it says that the Kshatriya's psychoframe was an old one left over from the development of the Nu and Sazabi. There isn't a word that I can find to suggest that there is even one bolt from the Stein-02 in the Kshatriya. And I've also found absolutely nothing to suggest the Stein-02 was completely cannibalized.
Do you have sources, because I'm really curious
Mobile Suit Gundam UC MSV Kusabi, an audience who was a Sinanju fan sent me the whole manga
@@zethythonix Gotcha. I just tracked down and read that. The Sinanju story in there involves an accident where an engineer kills a maintenance technician, but it doesn't mention the Stein-02, or mention any of its parts. Also, MSV works are not, and never have been, canon.
@@ChaosUnit178 I am sorry, you are really telling me MSV is non-canon?! No offence, did you really like MSV was written for fun?
@@zethythonix no no, you're right, I just looked it up, and the official word is that most of the MSV are canon. I didn't know, as my favorite MSV, and therefore most well-known to me is the Perfect Gundam, which is definitely not canon.
But I'm still trying to know where this thing about the Stein-02 being disassembled and distributed to the Rozen Zulu and the Kshatriya came from. I'm having a discussion with a friend of mine, and I'm legitimately looking for the sources, not trying to argue, I promise
No my belief here is about the Phoenix where it ended up there was a g-recco movie that was made I think it was more of a fan animation or it was an official bandit I'm not too sure but there was a g record movie that was made or a little OVA or whatever that showed the Phoenix fighting the g reco and I think the Garcane but the thing is the Phoenix was black in the little OVA movie or whatever that might become a problem I'm not too sure but this was an amazing video either way
The one in G-Reco is a replica, Mask recreated the Phenex from the leftover blueprints
Enjoy the video
I wonder what if any thoughts or ideas on Gundam What Ifs?
Marvel will sue Bandai first
Please do a video on the altron gundam and the rozen Zulu
Altron is after Sandrock, Rozen is all the way at around 40-ish episode
@@zethythonix ok
Grenada... Grenadada is a new one
Japanese pronunciation*
nice! but still, not the unicorn RX-0 line... that BETTER be next or you have lost a loyal subscriber and top fan my good Sir
Again, I caught you for not watching until the end lol
@@zethythonix I did watch it all, tho i left the comment before watching the whole vide, yes... I'm just ready for the unicorn series vids now, are they considered that strongest gundams now? I mean, unit one was categorized as a "singularity" 😱 im ready for someone to bring the big picture together into one concise video
In my school vr game goalius took on the neo zeeong will it under gravity And during it goalius reckonized him as for killing his caretakers decepticon thrust kill master and I originally thought that he also took out the predacon blackaracknia but she's still alive anyway and so started crushing the neo zeeong with both the sinajin and full frontal in it and neo zeon failed to save him as goalius crushed the sinajin goalius pass out due to exhausting but in the game ex fight it against the second neo zeeong and well in my game I can't fight it due to goalius shot the ship with his armed armour bs in stored mode and it destroys the ship and the ma include
I still believe Char and his Sazabi would smoke Full Frontal and his Sinanju.
I'm with you
I beg your pardon? "The pilot can feel the pain or damage when the ms is hit" that is a huge design flaw
True but i think more of a feature, since pain is a form of sensation it give a feeling of direction. If the ms is hit but not damaged it gives away the position of the enemy if you can feel it. Though sensors should be able to do it better, i gues it gives better control as the synapse is controlling the ms. Dunno 🤣
I mean, it's mostly not gonna happen unless you became one with the MS, as I said in the video, mastering it is hard so it's not likely the pilot will reach to that level
@@zethythonix Then SNRI and it's Bio-Computer came along and now EVERBODY can reach that level without any effort!
@@MasterSwo but SNRI can't perform space magic, you have to do certain trade off with Psychoframe
Personally speaking while the Time Travel thing isn’t that big a deal breaker to me with everything ELSE that happens in the UC era
I DO hate it for being the starting point for one of my LEAST favorite plot devices being brought back in Lalah
I refuse to truly consider her a character, since she became a bloody plot device when she kept returning and basically is a major reason neither Char or Amuro could truly have ANY peace after the war
Amuro with her constantly haunting him, literally
And Char because she kept dragging Amuro back into his life at bad times, looking at you random swan scene in Char’s Counterattack
Yeah...she..is bit..overrated.
NT is a prequel to Unicorn.
Nope, it’s after
1:12 the second flag
"alternate timeline" is just a shit excuse for writers who cant be bothered to maintain continuity.
Kinda, but not entirely sometimes, for example, like DC and Marvel comics, they pulled off the alternate timeline thing quite well (excluding movies)
@@zethythonix actually i was thinking exactly of them. they HAD to do the alternate timeline thing because their writers couldnt stick to the universes their predecessors had created.
You are definitely a Cantonese speaker
I never say I wasn’t
21:21 why is it p bandai
do you have any info on the great zeong?
I will get digging during Zeong episode
Did Jona stay with the phenex
Nope
How do you spell? Neue Seele? Nieuwe Ziel?
I always spelled it in my pretend German accent
Neue Ziel
first
So in other words Sazabi can kick Sinanju's ass.
Not exactly
@@zethythonix who do you think would win?
@@hinewdaniel2998 MS wise: Sinanju, Pilot wise: Char
@@zethythonix aren't they both char anyways
Char is char, Frontal is part of char with his despair thoughts
Shame the RG kit for sinanju isnt very good
Man, I am so tired of the UC space magic bs.
So do I
I feel like UC and NT had the most contrived mobile suit design. It feels like a kid making up reasons why they can't lose. "This is the biggest, heaviest mobile suit ever, its resistant to beam weapons and has a million guns and it's hands can shoot off and fly around and all the fingers are super beam cannons but the fingers can also shoot off and fly around and they have wires that come out and can hack mobile suits and make them fight each other AAAAND even if you destroy the hands each arm has a second hand inside it and it has four extra arms on its back that it can use at the same time so there's no way you can beat it and also it can time travel" and then the only way to beat it is to say "Well my robot is made of magic time metal so it can just undo any of the damage you've done"
this right here is why everyone hates early-mid UC
So...basically reality Warper?
Oversimplifying, but yeah
@@zethythonixdang..psychoframe is crazy.
what's that MS at 10:57?
Gaza C (Sleeves Ver.)
@@zethythonix thank you!
Kämpfer series please
Kampfer gonna need to wait a long time
@@zethythonix dont forget titania from code fairy
I’ve always thought neo zeong is atrocious
Can you please create a HLMS of the three unicorns?
I caught you, you didn't watch til the end
I don't like sinanju. It doesn't feel much like zeon ms which makes sense but still doesn't fit well
It felt so like Zeon, the monoeye, red, the sleeves, the Sazabi-like backpack... the general aura just feels right
Wtf they should have adapted the novel ending since, till the end, we didn't have a decisive battle between the unicorn and sinanju, and also, it would fit with how most, if not all, Gundam series had that final battle end instead of that super robot hand-to-hand thing.
I mean if we saw the battle without the Neo Zeong, that will make more sense. Considering UC = hope, Sinanju = despair, in the novel, Frontal can generate time travel and Psycho Field by himself, the novel visions sounded more sensible and not that "magical" feeling