Speaking with Columbine victims' families (April 22, 1999)
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- Katie Couric talks with Michael Shoels, who lost his son Isaiah, and Craig Scott, who lost his sister Rachel, during the Columbine school shootings.
The full interview is around 15 minutes long.
The dad was holding the kid's hand because he was the last person to ever saw and be with his son. As if holding his hand he could feel the remaining energy his son has on the kid. It's not like it really is, but it's a poetic gesture from the way I see it.
Zeemas well said, I agree
true bro, true
I feel like crying
Rest In Peace Cousin I love you 😭😭
What a sick world we live in! For real!
That sigh that Isaiah's dad let out when Craig stated they said the "N" word to him... must've been very painful to hear that 😢
I noticed that too. Very sad.
That moment hurts me everytime. I feel so bad for this man and the rest of Isaiah's family. I hope they've found peace since then. Despite the situation, the moment where he grabs Craig's hand and they hold onto each other is beautiful.
just him knowing his son heard that word before being killed.. last word u hear ever...awful
A lot of people being killed isn’t that fucked up, but saying the n word is illegal.
@@Jim-gk4so
Everybody should be allowed to say every word, I agree, but I think you need to realize that the Columbine shooters clearly meant it in a very racist way, and they were both white supremacists.
I can't imagine all the suffering Craig went through that day, having to see 2 of your friends dying, then having to play dead covered in blood, and then learning that your sister died in the massacre aswell must be painful as hell.
sad thing is, he fought with his sister that morning. he never got to apologize to her because she was the first person to get killed in the shooting. he said that he later realised that when he ran out the library, he ran past his dead sister. he also said he heard his friends' last breaths. he had it so hard. he's a strong human being. if it were me i wouldn't be able to go on.
i dont think craig wanted to mention that isaiah said, "i want t see my mom" at that point
Patriots Nation you just proved how uneducated people online are abt Columbine. Yes, it was Isaiah, Craig said it many times, but when he was older, coz here it could have been too painful for Isaiah dad. Here u have one interview of many where he said it czcams.com/video/mRt9mpboOrs/video.html and Cassie in fact didnt say anything, because Harris said peek-a-boo and shot her. The book Cassie parents wrote is christian propaganda bs. She didn't even say she believes in God, it was other girl. Cassie was killed in sec.
SoJustCool true
@NatKK Thank you for this link. I had never seen that video before.
@SoJustCool he waited over a decade to reveal the mom comment.
@@keepingupwiththehalsteads805 Not propaganda bs. If you're talking about them mentioning what Cassie "said" how were they to know? They weren't there
The video was hard enough to watch, but to watch Isaiah's father silently crying and not saying a word is what really got to me. I've seen a lot of documentaries of Columbine students talking about that day, and no feeling can amount to this video.
This was so hard to watch... RIP Isaiah. :'(
Now Craig Scott has touched other people with his sisters story and has an even bigger house.
RebelCave85 and still rip isaiah
the regular Patterson - You are a fake. I bet those two kid perpetrators asked God for forgiveness. In which case, all would be forgiven
RebelCave85 ok whatever rubbish you are talking about idc STILL RIP TO ISAIAH AND ALL THE VICTIMS!!!
Neeners Knits rip Isaiah
this is beautiful. when the two started to hold hands I cried aw
chrissy aragon hey
chrissy aragon is painful.
chrissy aragon It was TV exploitation at its best. You fool. Disgraceful.
chrissy aragon i said the same when this first went down
yes it was beautiful.
When Isaiah’s dad grabbed Craig’s hand, tears started rolling
That’s not funny bruh u disrespectful as hell
@@ashtonplayzzz you took that shit the wrong way shes talking about tears of sadness not of joy idiot obviously
@@seonghwasbae2771 ok thanks and done call me that I was confused on that one ya bum
@@ashtonplayzzz your welcome and truth hurts ashton
@@seonghwasbae2771thanks amar
No idea why but Isaiahs story make me cry the most
Same here. Seeing his father almost ready to breakdown here is heartbreaking.
He seemed to be treated the worse by the shooters. Not physically (one guy got shot in the face twice, terrible) but more so mentally. Can’t imagine being called bigger and other slurs, saying you want your mom, then getting shot in the chest smh. Incredible hard to listen to
It’s even more sad when you think about the fact the one parent , got past the police to try to run into the school because he knew his child was in there , and that parent was Isaiah’s dad; Isaiah was probably already gone at that point and that just breaks my heart even more
@@tupacshakur5308 Who got shot in the face twice?
@@alexandraaxelsson4712 patrick Ireland he survived
Mr. Shoels looks so sad when Craig talks about Isaiah. Rest In Peace Isaiah.
Jon Davy stfu you disrespectful piece of shit
Jon Davy what the fuck is your problem lmao you just want attention that's all you want😂😂😂
+Jon Davy id beat your ass if I ever saw you in person. id call you a bitch first of course
@@Johnsmith-bf6yg ROT IN HELL YOU FUCKING PIG
What would you do if you saw your best friend murdered right in frontman of you
Awww when he held Craig’s hand 😢❤️
Dempy So sad
Its just ridiculously sad. RIP Isaiah. He cried out for his mom before they shot him. Its known that many soldiers on the battlefield... and people in general, will call out for their mothers as death looms.
blagh mrblafh what does death looms mean?
@@hannahalexis9233 It means as death seems imminent and inevitable.
That’s so true. I once spoke with someone who fought in the Falklands War, who suffered from tremendous guilt and PTSD because a young Argentinian soldier who he shot and killed had called out for his mum before he died. This soldier had a terrible longing to meet the mother and tell her that her son had been thinking about her in his last moments.
But Craig said in the interview he didn't say anything... Also where is the full interview?
@@GABRIELLA3254 bro why u asking dat like he might’ve forgot
People blaming bullying are insane. These psychopaths murdered a disabled boy who probably never bullied anyone in his entire life.. so just stop with the blaming victims. These kids were outcasts by their own choosing, not just some bullied kids. They had a twisted perception of reality.
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they were bullied but they killed no bullies they killed innocent childeren
Yeah that’s sad, Kyle Velasquez
Cajunflix1 Movies still doesn’t give someone the right to kill them
They weren't bullied, if you do your research.
they were bullied and originally were gonna blow up the whole library so it would drop on the cafeteria but the bombs didn't go off in time so they just came in and shot who they saw, they wanted to originally go for the jocks - I know this because my sister friends brother went to that school and was 1 of the few kids the gunman emailed to stay home that day because they were friends
Isaiah Shoels and Rachel Scott's birthdays are one year and one day apart
jtaurchini May they rest in peace forever and God's kingdom eternity.
jtaurchini right 😔🙏🏾
Actually 2years apart because Rachel was born in 1981 and Craig was born in 1983
@@diegopeacockthekingofkarat6080 Isaiah Shoels and Rachel Scott
Beautiful moment when Mr. Shoels grabs Craig's hand when he's explaining Isaiah's last moments. Not only is it the sadness of hearing how Mr. Shoels son lost his life but it's also his fatherly instinct to comfort this young man that had to witness the horror first hand. God bless them.
Beautiful moment. 💕
I've seen every Columbine video on CZcams and none made me cry. But this one did. R.I.P Isasiah and everyone else who died in Columbine.
Ląţïñã Băŕbïə you look dope
+fullmetal25 Thank you; )
I'm sure you didn't see "every" columbine related video on youtube.
Craig Scott recalled after the event that when they all ran out of the library, he actually ran right past his sister's body without realizing. She was the first victim and had been shot just outside the library.
Wait for real? That’s even worse.
@@DarkAngel-ow1ck yes he said he ran past right her side but he didn't know it was his sister's body
according to another comment who read the transcripts from the library call Isaiah's last words were "no, no, no, mom". heart breaking.
There’s audio of Patty Nielson’s 911 call on CZcams in which you can hear everything going on in the background. It’s incredibly sad.
I'm so sorry, Michael. Isaiah had his life ahead of him. RIP.
This man had to listen how his son was murdered I'm in tears just watching him.
This is absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Isiah Shoel's dad is clearly heartbroken beyond words and the emotion in his face is overwhelming. When this interview as done Craig Scott must also have been suffering from shock and trauma, even though he appears composed and strong. 2 his friends were shot just next to him and even when he realised that he had survived the shooting, he found out that his sister was actually the 1st student to be killed that day.
Rest in peace Rachel and Isaiah
+Colin Steadland Rachel was the sister of the boy talking, that's why she referenced them specifically
no reason to react like that.
No R.I.P only Eric and Dylan
@@jamesleonard9516 bye
James Leonard wth ??? Are you serious right now ?
That's a true definition of humanity in the face of tragedy. Craig is strong guy even after losing his sister 20 years ago
I jus cried the entire video😭😢his face after hearing what the two guys called him made me so sad for him!!
I’m atheist, but the shooters make me wish hell was a real place after seeing that father’s pain 😡😡
Aaron Scarpa hell is real
Aaron Scarpa Hell is real.
Mason Calhoun dont make him pull out his magic book bruh
Hell is not real.Both killers and the victims are in the same place now,in the endless abyss
Watch Bill Wiese's testimony and countless others, right here on CZcams, and you will be sure to have your eyes opened and change your minds.
When Katie put her hand on Mr. Shoels arm thats so sweet. course the hand holding got me the first time.
For those that don't know, that boy is Craig Scott. Not only did he lose his friends that day, but he also lost his big sister, Rachel.
Oh man, Isaiah's fathers face... I cant. That poor man. RIP Isaiah
Truly the most heartbreaking interview I’ve watched.
it seems cruel to talk so intimately about a traumatic event when the father is right next to him
He needed closure
His sister died aswell
He wanted to know what happened
Clancer The guy talking had laid next to his 2 dead friends 2 days prior to the interview and he also lost his sister
Clancer I’m sure the father agreed
I feel so bad for the dad may god bless Isaiah’s family and may Isaiah watch over his family
This is the most heartbreaking video I've ever seen. Craig lost his best friends and saw it with his own eyes, Mr Shoels lost his son... And when they both take each other's hands. I know it's been 22 years but I can't imagine what the 13 victim's family feel like and also Eric and Dylan's family. Just tragic.
Watching this made me cry like a baby. Seeing Isaiah’s dad hold on to Craig was a bitter sweet gesture. It’s beautiful because they’re trying to comfort each other and it shows they, ofc, care for each other. But it’s sad to know why.
I wish that interview did not end before the two finished speaking; it was such a profound moment. I remember it so clearly. The Today show would break and go local at 25 past the hour, and Katie Couric spoke out and said to the NBC director, Joe, we are not going to break," and the interview continued, so that she would not disrupt the man and boy. I can understand why she calls that her most memorable interview. That was her finest hour! I sure wish the TODAY show were half as good now, in 2019.
www.today.com/video/katie-couric-interviews-columbine-victims-families-in-1999-1215601219840
That was so hard for Craig to talk about. He was really trying to spare his dad of hearing the bad stuff his son went through 😢 that was hard to watch 💔
That Craig Scott is one strong kid
So sad. My heart breaks for all the victims and their families. This video brings me to tears.
this will stay with my soul forever. as it pierced my soul as this broadcast live.
The last thing Isaiah heard was racists comments and he was calling out for his mom. Craig Scott has been through hell and back with this event that has changed his life. Rachel Joy Scott died and she was the first to die and she was being mocked for her faith in GOD and Craig Scott lost 3 people his sister and his 2 friends. Craig Scott was brave so was his sister.
There is a audio tape if you type in Eric & Dylan audio tape April 20th 1999 and you can hear them in the library and gunshots! It was so disturbing and sick what Eric and Dylan did. They couldn't face dealing with the courts that would put them in prison for the rest of their lives or the death row so they killed themselves. Why people say they were heroes is confusing to me and so many kids in school shootings they would say "He did a Columbine!" and their were copycats Eric & Dylan wanted to make a lasting impression on this world and they did.
I wonder if Columbine is haunted from the victims of Columbine High School and so many school shootings and we learned NOTHING WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!
Hope you realize that that "do you believe in God" bullshit never happened. It's been confirmed for a while now and is STILL passed around by people who don't know
Rachel wasn’t mocked for her faith. Neither was Cassie, the girl most believe to be the “she said ‘yes’” martyr. The real girl who said “yes” was Valeen Schnurr & it wasn’t that black & white. After being shot, Valeen cried out “oh God” or something along the lines of “God help me!” One of the shooters (can’t remember which one atm) asked her if she believed in God, to which she said yes & when asked why (they also said “God’s gay!”), she said it was what she her family believed. Valeen survived the shooting.
This is so sad😥 when they started holding hands
This is heart breaking....those poor people....they've experienced horrible things. Dylan and Erik are so messed up
They are so messed up? but you don't look at the fact of what made them who they are and thats being bullied and it still goes on today in society...you people will never learn #naturalselection
+Richard M Stop with that natrual selection crap. You sound stupid as hell. Sure I feel both Eric and Dylan were bullied as well as suffering from depression and other emotional problems but so do lots of teenagers and there's other ways to deal with it besides shooting up your own school. Plus it had nothing to do with natrual selection. They failed to set the bombs up correctly so instead went around shooting a bunch of random kids most of which didn't even know Eric or Dylan. Would you still be proudly repping natrual selection if that was one of your family members getting shot in the head? Don't think so.
Harley Quinn I don't care what you think ..do you think it's still right parents are still teaching there kids to bully other kids in schools? Which was the main purpose why Eric and Dylan did this...oh wait your probably one of those parents...you fuckin idiot
Richard M don't call someone an idiot if you support people who murder the innocent
Bird Gang and don't call someone stupid when you teach kids to bully other kids and don't expect a reaction back from the victims and yet this already happened years ago and people still continue to not learn from this incident...
Damn, you can tell that shit was hard to discuss props to all of them it takes serious courage. 🙏🏾
i’ve never wanted to hug someone so bad. i hope they’ve both found at least some healing.
I feel so bad for these two, that kid watched both his friends die and later found out that his sister was the first one murdered earlier.
*Simply a glimpse into the pain they went through. I simply can't imagine, they are always in my thoughts.*
I feel so bad for Isaias father. He loved his son so much and it’s a testament to how big is heart is. He knows two white kids hill son because he was black. Yet he holds the white kids hand and seeks comfort from him. I’m white and I couldn’t blame him for despising white people after what he went through.
I was 11 when Columbine happened, and I remember just a little of coming home from school and seeing the special report on TV. However the one thing that I have always remembered from the whole ordeal was this interview. Craig Scott and Mr. Shoels holding hands being interviewed by Katie Couric. That has and was seared in my memory before youtube helped bring it back to reality again.
This poor dad. No parent should have to bury their baby. I know he ran into the school this dad. He had three children inside. To know your son was being racially abused before he was brutally murdered, it must be awful.
I was in 10th Grade when this happened and I'll never forget coming downstairs and this was on cuz my dad watches The Today Show and to this day is one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life I pray for the shoals family and everybody lost their lives on that day we pray for you and your families rest in peace
I was also in 10th Grade. Saw News coverage on MSNBC and CNN. The Next Morning, Wednesday, the Principal at Decatur held a 2 minute moment of silence for the victims at Columbine.
Ugh this is so sad. RIP Isaiah.
this was heartbreaking... hard to keep the tears R.I.P Isaiah :^(
I cry every time I come across this video
It's s hurtful thing for a mother to grieve over there child but to see a father it's even for 💔.
God, this is breaking my heart 😰😰I feel for them.
Why in the hell would they have filmed something like this, especially only two days after the shooting? That poor man sits there while Craig discusses his son's last moments and murder for everyone to watch. This should have been a private moment between them.
Look at Isaiah's dad's face!!!!!!!! He's silently crying....I feel so bad this school shooting could have been prevented! the police could have stepped in! The parents of the shooters could have stepped in...the kids who didn't go to school that day are so lucky!!!
Very sad...very very sad! Back in my sophmore year (2005-2006) I heard of Isaiah's story from Craigs sister when she came to our school and gave a speech regarding Columbine. I was deeply saddened and hurt
Darian Davis Craig’s sister died, she was one of the victims
This is so emotional
Does anyone know where I can watch the full interview?
I can't imagine what Craig had to endure and what he has to live with today. To see and hear two of your friends dying while being in such a chaotic and stressful situation added to the fact that he would have seen more carnage as he left the library only to find out that his older sister was murdered earlier on. Whenever I think of Columbine I think of Craig and I hope that somehow and some way he reaches some level of peace.
Utterly heartbreaking. I am crying for the family of this young man and all of the victims.
Tbh it’s so sad that anyone had to go through that :(
When Isaiah's Dad grabs Craig's hand I teared up. I cannot imagine the loss. R.I.P.
I was reading Katie Couric’s book “Going There” and she mentioned this interview and how she will always remember this morning and that she felt disgusted / exploited.
this hurts me to the core...
I'm truly sorry for what happened that day.
how hard this would be to say in front of his father. He just lost his friends and sister. i can't imagine going in front of the cameras the next day.
I cried when I heard he was backing up 😣😣😣😣 RIP Isaiah ❤️❤️❤️❤️💝
Where can I find the full interview?
Where can I find this whole interview
I hope his family is okay ❤️ smh seeing his father cry broke my heart being a mother to autistic child
Nearly broke me
Rip isaiah 💗❤️😭
Rory tf In God's kingdom eternity 🕊
But what about your profile pictu-
Nichole Loves Shawn hey we can have interest in the shooters and the victims at the same time ya feel
I cant stop crying....
Do you have the video of our family with Katie Couric?
We met with her at Clement park this same morning...... It was me, my sisters Coni and Angela and my mom Linda Sanders.
Thank you❤
Was your dad, Dave Sanders?
Where can I see the full interview?
were can i watch the full interview
This is some of the most powerful emotion life ever has to offer
That poor father
Does anyone know where the full interview is?
Michael’s (Isaiah’s Father) reaction, hurts my heart so much. Makes me tear up. I feel so horrible for him…
Where is the full interview?
This was heartbreaking to watch.
It amazed me how on the day of the shootings, the kids were in shorts and the next day the weather changed so much ...so much snow...
Linda G. That’s Colorado for ya.
I'm so glad Craig decided to do the interview with Isaiah's father, I'm not sure he would've felt strong enough to do it on his own. :'(
Wheres the full video
Watching Mr. Shoels cry made me cry😭 RIP Isaiah shoels
oh god do i remember this it kills me
THEY’RE HOLDING HANDS MY HEA R T
sad shit... smh
So painful.
Do you know where to watch the full interview?
I could only find this other bit. www.today.com/video/katie-couric-interviews-columbine-victims-families-in-1999-1215601219840
Rip you were so young to lose your life god bless you soul lives on with us
Why do they keep zooming in on isaiahs dads face when he’s getting emotional why even interview someone days after this 🥺🥺
Sadly the media in those days had no shame. Not that they do now but they're better in general about respecting time.
@@katwebbxo place the blame where it lies.
entitled racist yt kids.
have the same energy you would if the suspects were blk.
this is for you and everybody else that wants to try to blame someone else when the narrative doesn’t fit ideology.
This is honestly the saddest thing a survivor cna talk about. Also I feel really bad for that dad. I think it's stupid that racism is still I thing today it's so stupid. I hope that dad is doing well today
Rest in Peace Isaiah.Words cant describe How bad I feel for you.You had gone through so much.I know you are doing better now.I wish I could save you,Even if I had to get hurt myself,I would do anytbing for you. Rest in peace Isaiah❤😞💐
Craig Scott has a very calming demeanor, despite how sad this video is.
Katie Couric was a great interviewer
R.i.p. Isaiah
I feel so much sympathy for Craig. Imagine surviving a massacre uninjured watching two of your friends die, then finding out your sister was the first one to be killed. He truly is a strong person.
They interviewed them less than two days after the shooting for content? How insensitive
They volunteered in case you don't know 😒
@@oats2949 but who cares abt facts, right? as it the interview would’ve had a different tone if they waited a yr.
folks’ understanding of insensitivity is flawed.