Massive SpaceX Starship Upgrade: Could This Really Work!?
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This has been a whirlwind of ground breaking updates as SpaceX prepares for test flight 5. Not only that, they have done huge testing this week. This is a Massive SpaceX Starship Upgrade. Could This Really Work!? I tell you, it is exciting to watch this play out. Along with that we have Record-breaking rocket launches and spectacles like this! Indeed, the space industry is absolutely buzzing with excitement. There is so much to cover today so sit back and relax. This one is dense! We have Falcon Heavy - GOES-U, Starlink Group 10-2 , Group 9-2 & Group 10-3 and NROL-186 (expected Starshiled), Starliner Return now in July, and update on Vulcanâs Second Flight, and finally Chang`e 6 and SVOM.
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@@bandarnes Bro what? đHow is him taking a sponsor spot a betrayal?
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Where are you going? And when
This will be the next big moment. We got a booster landing, then a double booster landing with Falcon Heavy, then a successful belly flop with a Starship. Up next is catching the largest booster ever out of the air. Gonna be wild.
This profile pic's gotta be illegal
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Sensational headlines aside, Starlinerâs problems do beg the question as to whether this flight was/is sufficient to certify it as âoperationalâ.
Would you risk your life in a return flight or tell Boeing and nasa to do one
For all the time and money they have been given you'd at least expect Starliner to be around as good as Dragon but the fact is it's not even a close second.
its fine. bring them back.
@@ThatOpalGuy its fine. bring them back.
If it was fine they would have been back already.
@@Scanner9631 The service module has little to nothing to do with the safety of re-entry. It will be trashed before heating begins.
I'm living for this catch
Please please please be successful.
This will be one of the most amazing sights in human history
Anyone in Wichita, KS who plans on being at Boca Chica for IFT 5? I saw Neil Armstrong step on the moon. I was 12 years old. I want to witness the IFT 5, especially the catch attempt. IF someone from Wichita IS going, I'll happily spring for half the gas and driving!! Respond here if you are interested. I'm a responsible retired chef looking for Mars!
â@@bandarnesit was known that they will not catch with gridfins for a long time. Idea about gridfins was floating at the beginning of this chopsticks idea. Probably gridfins are considered just as backup catch points
@@bandarnes that bigot Muks is a liar? That is what you should believe.
lets hope this won't be IFT-1 all over again.
@@AutoBotPlays naaah. It will go over tower/starbase only if it will bleed off velocity and will have control over engines. In that case, almost empty booster even with crash, it will not make much more mess than standard test to destruction like plenty others during development
16:30 Who else would we trust to deorbit the ISS? I would just turn over maintenance of the station to Boeing. No explicit mention of deorbiting it needed.
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Lmao
pin this comment for after deorbit attempt
What makes this extra fun is that no matter HOW the early catch attempts go we know the program moves forward.
Its not as if NASA will shut the program down for a 3 year investigation if the chopsticks get sheared off.
You know that if the first catch ends up with the tower completely yeeted into the ocean Elon will high five the crew and the rebuild will start immediately.
and just think of the views, and clicks!! the publicity will be huge, no matter the result of this catch attempt :)
Success is not guaranteed, excitement is.
RUD'ing the tower would defiantly be exciting to watch.
nasa doesnt control this program.
Bear in mind that the tower and launch platform will probably need rebuilding or replacement very shortly anyway. Version II is a different but similar animal to Version I, and Version I is rougher on the launch facility than anyone had originally planned for. So I think SpaceX is going to go ahead and bite the bullet and get the work started once the 2nd tower and platform are ready.
Wow! The engineering teams at Spacex are truly exceptional!!!!! How in the world are they getting all this designed and built in so little time? The pace is next level!!!!
Mass production of product that was designed from scratch about mass production. That is additional level of complexity for starship system. Using as little machined parts as possible. Using cheap materials that are easy to process instead "space grade materials" that are light and strong, but very expensive and complicated to work with. This is why they achieved price per full stack, powered by most advanced engine (full flow staged combustion engine is peak of rocket technology rn. There is research on rotation explosive engines that are even more advanced, but rn it's only in lab. (I don't count electric/nuclear engines.)
I think if not that push for mass production Starship would be operational for at least 3-4 years. But cost would be much, much higher
Thanks for making a point about why Starliner is being kept in space. The ability of SpaceX to make continual improvements in Falcon 9 is/was fundamentally aided by being able to examine the booster components after landing. Boeing will not have that chance, and wants to get as much data out of that trunk as possible. Nice presentation.
Weak Boeing cope.
@@leonardbakersMaybe. Seems more likely that everyone is NOT lying, and it actually IS the service module thatâs being problematic, and the capsule will be fine.
@@737smartin
The issues are the thrusters that will cause the de-orbit which are inn that module. If they fail the capsule may not de-orbit for years or may be on an un-survivable trajectory (or impact an inhabited locale).
@@Scanner9631 Excuse me. At present, only one thruster out of something like 30 is out. The four other units came up after hot fire, which points to some sort of freeze up and an overly conservative computer monitoring every little fart and belch of the system. So I just know that you are a rocket scientist or something, right? Or is it that you watch a lot of TV and You Tube videos? Anyway, NASA learned long ago that you have to be open about things. They have been doing that since Apollo. They relearned it during the Shuttle period. When you lie, it comes back to bite you. I think it is entirely likely that the helium leaks are much like that ISS pressure leak was a year ago - detectable only by instruments. Why else would they be comfortable keeping the spacecraft at ISS for a month? They have been continuing to hot fire the thrusters while docked to the station to get data. BTW that is something that Crew Dragon CANNOT DO. Once they solve this intermittent thruster problem, the Starliner will be the only crewed vehicle that can also reboost the ISS.
Elon said during his interview with Tim Dodd that launch tower 2 will be taller than launch tower 1, that the chopsticks will be shorter , meaning they will have less inertia, meaning that they will be able to move quicker than the launch tower 1 chopsticks. And finally ...Elon said that launch tower 2 will have a COMPLETELY REDESIGNED OLM, with a .. wait for it...DUN DUN DUNNNN, A PROPER FLAME TRENCH... About time too , considering some of us have been saying since the start that a proper flame trench was going to be required, especially since Space X want to be able to launch starships daily and eventually even quicker than that. The bidet system was a short term fix that was never gonna cut it long term. I'm guessing it could be a scaled up version of the flame diverter trench at Massey's test
Site. Will be interesting to see.
Did you see elons kids there? Dude it felt like I was watching a Walmart dad when I saw all of them
I doubt the 2nd OLM will have anything like a traditional flame trench as it just wouldn't work. It is more likely to be a flame deflector with the same shower head setup built into it. Containing the energy from 35 raptors into a trench will just not be possible, better to let is dissipate in the open like the 1st OLM but with a deflector designed to improve dissipation and reduce reflections back up to the rocket.
@@schrodingerscat1863 elon has confirmed it will be a flame trench. and why wourldnt it make sense? more area the engines plumes can get out from
The flame trench is something we know little about right now. Trying to find some clues on that before talking too much about it. Looks like we may have a few signs in the latest RGV flight.
â@@leafboye33Nothing Walmart about Elon... Don't like the reference.
You mean to tell me that China is not overly concerned with the safety and well-being of their citizens? Imagine my shock... đđ
China doesn't give AF about human rights. Even when they are Chinese citizens, unfortunately.
Raptor engines look so streamlined compared to Blue Origins BE-4 engines.
Youâre so right! Anything with Blue Origin moves as slow as a snail. SpaceX is like a rabbit lol
@@wesleylahman3710 A rabbit that never stops
BE-4 is also larger than Raptor, just FYI
Remember what the first version of Raptors looked like? Early engines look like plumber's nightmares, because of all the monitoring equipment. You are comparing apples to oranges, by commenting on how much slimmer Raptors V2 are to the BE-4 V1.
they are designed to mass manufacturing. It's the key the both Tesla and Space X success.
Watching the re entry footage just highlights how well the team did in building the Space Shuttle back in the 70s.
They have perfected the falcon booster landings. It took some time of course but they will achieve this goal also. I canât wait to see it!!
Iâm glad Iâve lived long enough to see this. I was born before we went to the moon. My great grandmother was born before there were planes.
Pathetic comment
China is no different than other dictatorships. People don't matter, only results matter.
Great video Marcus. Have a happy vacation. You deserve one.
Can you imagine that happening in the US or Europe!!
I watch a bunch of weekly space news update channels, just to help drum in what amazing things happen week to week, but this channel is my go to for all the facts and information. Thanks Marcus and team.
Can you imagine what would happen if SpaceX dropped a booster like that into a town?
Yes .10,000 fanboys saying it was a successful test.
4 Falcon 9's & a falcon heavy in one week is insane, image showing that to someone 20 years ago
Thanks for the update Marcus! Regarding the Chinese rocket, I sure hope international space organizations think twice about using their rockets for payload (France, ahem...).
Never trust ChinaâŠ
Thanks Marcus. You're my one must-watch video every Saturday
same!
Thanks Marcus and Team...! " If you Build it they will come. "
Marcus, how come it's so oddly satisfying to hear you say "and I will see you in the next video". Lol
Hey Hey Marcus! Thanks so much for the great and consistent content! Best to you and your team!!!
Those fuel tanks are beautiful. Put some Raptor V2s underneath them, and launch them!
Really liked the explanation of the Star Liner. It makes sense to study the "trunk" while it still exists.
Dropping rockets with toxic chemicals on populated areas is quite dystopian.
That was a ton of information! Very fast! Hope a glass of water was near by!!! Thanks for the week long summary!!!
Saturday mornings have become my favorite day recently, as I am always looking forward for the next Marcus House video.. Good Job man!!!
I wonder if most or all of the pieces of the International Space Station could fit inside SpaceX Starships returning to Earth? Imagine the ISS preserved as a museum. I realize it's highly unlikely.
Itâs possible though, just never done before
Every single module would fit. All of them at once? No chance.
They probably could all fit, depends on how big the cargo bay on the Starship will be in the final version but the ISS was built by a couple of Proton rockets, Space Shuttles, Soyuz and Falcon 9s. Preserving at least a few bits would be nice for sure, getting it all back would be super costly requiring multiple dozens of launches I reckon.
It'd be far far cheaper to just build a replica on Earth.
@@Destarn If 1 Starship launch is lets say 2 million dollars in near future - up to like 40 million dollars to get ISS back to earth. Tho i dont thing starship can properly re-enter and land with this much mass and shitted center of mass. Its made to launch payload, not really return it
Falcon launches viewed from SoCal have been amazing. The twilight timing makes a good bright rocket across the sky experience.
13:41 -- I often wondered how small the earth appears from a geostationary orbit! Amazing!
Keep in mind that the lens on the camera has a lot to do with that. Wider angle lenses make the earth look smaller, and telephoto lenses make the earth look bigger.
This proves that American ingenuity is still there. It just needs the right leader to make it happen.
Thanks, Marcus!!
Good morning Marcus and team.
Thanks for all the updates.
Glad that you were very clear about the issues with Starliner. Im a bit tired of reading the âOMG SpaceX will have to send a rescue mission for the astronautsâ style posts.
I can't wait for the next flight, this will be so awesome and a step further in the right direction to mars đđđđ
What a week. Amazing look thank you MH
Another great episode, Marcus!
Yey Hey Hey!
And right on time.
Unbelievable just how much is going on with Space X. .
Another surberb roundup of space goodness. .
Thank you MH + Team for for your excellent continuing coverage
Hey there Rob! Great to see you mate!
Great show! Wondrous flights of fancy and fantasy! Thank you! Well done! đ
Ahhh, another Saturday
Boeing reminds the world every day just how remarkable and unique SpaceX is.
Thanks very much.
great stuff. Thanks mate
Thanks!
Simply Brilliant Marcus - thank you
Super great info Markus! Love your dedication! Please keep up the awesome job! For the Babel app, as an international photographer and videographer I am always needing to quickly learn the language of the area I'm working in. In the past I've used other apps and quickly moved back to Babel. It's awesome!
In regards to the designs you make for each of the launches i would love to see a Velcro or sew on patch to put on rucksacks and things.
Brilliantly done
Hi Marcus house thanks for a another wonderful video of the space industry plenty of new stuff going on there David đđđâ€ïžđŹđ§đ
awersome as ever!
I love your updates Marcus, you always lift my spirits đ
Rock on Marcus
I can't freaking wait to see these tested!
Excellent as usual đđ»
SPACE!!!!
Saw that rocket take off yesterday!
Cheers Marcus đ»
Thanks as always Marcus and team...high anticipation for the "catch" of the year...đ
Thank you, a great synopsis as alway
Nice!
Good video. I'll be back to finish after work break is over again.
Why don,t they make the skirtings moveable for the last few inches or may be a foot, intead of the whole arm to the last inch?
The benefits are.
1. Skirtings on both arms can be made moveable. So, instead of moving the whole arm fast,both the skirtings can also move simultaneously. Thus, slowing the movement of whole arm which inturn will reduce the wobble.
2. Since the movement of the whole arm is rotational, and the arm is heavy. The adjustments to the cms and inches will be difficult. The above solution may be a solution to this problem.
Pure gold. Thanks for putting these videos together.
What a week! Bonkers.
Your content is so informative. Love it.
I would like to see the astronauts return on starliner myself. And the starliner program iron out all there kinks.
I am just a little over cautious about astronauts riding on a vessel that has to be tested DURING a human rated flight.
Of course this has to do with the space shuttles blowing up when I was a kid in school. Good luck best wishes.
Are we sure it's just the propulsion with Stayliner? My guess is the door fell off.
Yes, how are they supposed to study what to do about the fat lazy boomers that built it from orbit?
And half the other pieces too. The astronauts signing up to ride this have a serious death wish.
no man, if the door fell off the fuzzy dice would have fallen out.
its fun to be wrong.
The astronauts flying up there on a Beoing vehicle are truly braver than the first men on the moon.
Boeing executives đčđ©
I don't believe you can compare today's technical and operational nauts with the embryonic project mercury test pilots - however if you're inferring to Boeing's current management system steering their aeronautical projects astray then the shear lack of confidence in your manufacturing processes translates to fear experienced by the chosen crews - fear transcends bravery!
Possibilities: Brave, stupid, lied to, desperate, death wish. Individuals may have more than one of the motivations.
@@pjc5180 Keep in mind, the division of Boeing developing Starliner is essentially an entirely different company than the commercial division building 737 Max. The Starliner project is run by the division comprised of the old McDonnell corporation that built the Mercury and Gemini, merged with North American-Rockwell that built Apollo and the Space Shuttle. The simpletons in this country do not know history, and only started paying attention when P.T. Barnum ...... I mean Elon Musk ... started making a spectacle out of space again.
Just a reminder that if SpaceX truly required every bit of performance from a Falcon Heavy launch, the outer cores would be expended along with the center core
12:59 Amazing landing shots by Greg Scott! đź
Marcus, this was by far - your very best update video. Just wonderful. :D
Awesome episode! Thanks for continuing your excellent format and super high quality information, your team kicks ass!
Awesome Video.
This catch will be interesting to watch.
China method is easier just have the ground do all the work
Seems a little crazy to catch a booster with those little nubs, however if anyone can do it SpaceX can.
It's not really "catching it", more like "grabbing it while it hovers". The idea is that it doesn't have much or any speed when they catch it.
They do look tiny for such a big object, the engineering is staggering
The Chinese just use their population to cushion the fall seems to be the cheaper option
They should move the machinery for controlling the arms behind the tower, extending the length of each arm behind the tower and use a connected scissors mechanism to open and close the arms. Sure, it doubles the weight of the arms but it eliminates the bounce and maximizes control.
Nope. Even if you have a swivel in the middle of an arm. The shear weight of the arm and momentum generated is huge. They will still have the problem of dampening the massive momentum.
â@markplain2555 A pivot wouldn't be used, it would be a locking slide.
@@septembermeadows3107 No, your idea would require the sticks (which now suck at catching, with your mods) to phase through the tower.
I'd guess they're calibrating some sort of input shaping control algorithm to eliminate the wobble on those arms.
Control systems engineers doing their thing. Are the chopsticks electrically actuated or hydraulic?
Thanks for the updates. Space is hard, but the drive to learn and explore is strong. The announced booster catch will be spectacular. With all the experience from falcon I would expect a successful event. Hopefully, the engineers are making the decisions as they are ready to proceed.
I am so ridiculously invested in the disassembly of that vertical tank farm I'm almost more excited for news about that than anything else :P
I seriously think this could only be built in the USA. This is a wild way to recover a spaceship of any sort. America's engineering. Think how many companies and massive logistics have to come together for a project of this scale.
Thanks, I continue to appreciate the range of your coverage, especially non-US activities. All the best
Should have tried the catch with the Hopper
Thanks
Cool ufo video. I hope the E.B.E. survived. 5:16
1. Of courage I still love you
2. Just read the instructions
Are these the drone ships?
Yes, three of them: "Of Course I Still Love You", "Just Read The Instructions" and "A Sortfall of Gravitas"
A shortfall of gravitas, but yes.
They're all named after artificially intelligent spaceships in Iain M. Banks' "Culture Series" of science fiction novels.
Marcus, this is all just in only 1 week???? Wow! So impressive! What other company in the world is possibly better at getting things done?
Yea. It really is crazy.
It is definitely going to work
Simple solution for Starliner, donât use helium, use Argon.
18:35 I want that monitor setup for my PC!
I wonder if the movement in the lifting points is intentional and trips a switch to reduce or even shut down the engines on contact. Like squat switches on aircraft landing gear to actuate spoilers.
I've ordered that amazing new Shirt :D
IFT 4 was so amazing, I just had to buy it :D
Excited for the catch attempt but can't quite understand how they're going to get the lifting points in the right orientation for a catch. Do the really have that level of yaw control while doing the landing burn?
Is it possible you can do a video of the turn around of a booster? I'd love to see a booster which has done over 10 missions go through the paces of being flight worthy again. I'd like to see just how much work goes into it
I find it hard to fathom that a thermal wrap around the Starship and boosters cant be made beneficial for keeping cryogenic fluids in liquid state and extending range. NASA already confirms that mire insulation can help.
Could a super insulator such as Polyamide Aerogels act like a vest to keep heat out and the booster portion of the vest unskirt from the booster like a magician's quick change suit (before Starship separation)?
And added to the starship while in space for extra thermal isolation?
I would imagine some kind of tether transfer combined with edge weaved magnetic filaments could be instrumental in avoiding snags on appendages and reblanketing.
I'm imagining the expendable middle ring would be instrumental in influencing the drapery before leaving the booster and as it leaves the ring.
Likewise, the starship reentry would include some kind of reeling similar to fish net spooling that can double as a useful tether tool in space.
My gut says the gains can be greater than the losses especially since the rockets are becoming more efficient.
From what I learned about Polyamide Aerogel manufacturing, the resin has honey like consistency and poured into molds before going through the Sol gel process. I could imagine the resin added in succesive layers with the outermost chemistry tuned to reflect radiative heating and the inner layers more elastic and magnetic.
Gday mate watching in Nimbin NSW
Hey Marcus great video-again!
Good shots of Falcon9 first stage landing, but my understanding of the green flame at the extinguishing of the engines is oxygen rich recombination, not the TEA-TEB green flame at the ignition sequence... Just my 2 cents
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I donât think people understand how incredibly reckless and dangerous it is to drop a booster which utilizes NTO/UDMH into a populated areaâŠ
To give you an understanding of how serious an incident itâs considered to be, when even the fairing of an engine for one of the âXâ series test bed rocket planes was separated/lost in the desert during a test in the 60âs, which did not even contain any hypergolâs but was potentially exposed to some during the test run, it was treated as a massive hazard and the local towns where evacuated. This was the 60âs, back when it was the Wild West lol.
That yellow smoke trail is a clear indication of a substantial quantity of UDMH remaining on board and oxidizing with the atmospheric exposure⊠not a good look đ«Ł