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Establishing A Right Relationship To Suffering
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2024
- Most Christians get overwhelmed by suffering and frequently pray to God, and ask others to pray to God, to have it taken away. This video looks at the possibility of establishing a right relationship to suffering, which is inevitable no matter who you are.
Thank you Br. Brian for your videos, I always walk away with something I can put into practice. My cup has been full for the past decade and a half and while I am not always graceful about it, I have carried my cross.
Thank you.
Thank you Brother Brian. This is very helpful for me personally as I experience a lot of pain in my body for which medical tests have been able to identify. I would rather find a cause and a cure but have been trying recently to accept and offer this to God." It is difficult to see that this suffering may be a blessing as it often feels like retribution or punishment. Your videos open up new ways of coping with difficult situations that I am sure many are experiencing. Thank you.
I identify with you 100% in how demonic attacks hits us hard during physical suffering i.e. interpreting it as "retribution or punishment." I experience this too. I hope you get some relief from your physical suffering.
Thank you @BrianBr. I have been struggling with obedience and this is very timely.
I believe it takes a lot of suffering and experience over a long time to get a right understanding of obedience and when we do things improve a lot. I wish you the speediest and easiest route possible. God bless.
I like your mushroom icon. I grow shiitake and oysters on logs. Many people call me the Mushroom Man
Thank you
A lot of my pain and suffering has turned to bitterness towards God and other people. I should have been more faithful like Job, but instead it hardened my heart and made me angry. I do think the pain has made me a stronger person....but I no longer feel like the sweet and caring guy I used to be. I've tried helping out homeless people more often to help soften my heart, but do you have any other suggestions?
I also went through much (recurring) exterior and interior suffering and pain. When I ask "what to do, nothing helps?!" "Where are you, why did you leave me?!" All i hear is "pray".
I then pray and ask Him to keep me loving and open again and again and again. The only way is to go with Him through my depression, anger, resentment, anxiety, fear. To let His calm and peace grow inside over and over again.
I get stuck (badly) when I wish it to not be there, when i wish it to be taken away from me, when i am sulking on why is this happening to me, why am I like this etc.
For me the love that then grows inside moves me to do the volunteering with the homeless etc. I prefer this over seeking exterior means e.g. volunteering to "find love" although it's better probably than just doing nothing and being bitter. This is for me personally, it might be different for you.
May God be with you my brother
@@r.m.l.5487 Thank you so much for your response...I really appreciate it. God Bless You.
Thank you for a very challenging video Br. Brian. You obviously speak from experience and have come out the other end the better of it.
I am paraphrasing here but in the video you say the Church Fathers said that there were 3 types of suffering we must undergo in order to be purified to arrive at glory.
And that religious must endure being under the authority of sinful men, men who abuse their power etc. But you also say that these men can do great harm because they can damage our relationship with God. And that we may need to talk to someone, or highlight the issue with others.
Are you saying that we should not stand back and watch those in authority abuse people, but that if there is no other option, as the Church Fathers say, we need to stay in that situation and endure it until God works out the details?
It seems to me that allowing someone to do damage to an individual’s relationship with God is to tacitly allow them to go damage a community or an institution. Is it not the case that the church has closed down monasteries due to spiritual abuse by superiors?
If you get time perhaps you could clarify for me and apologies if I misunderstand.
I refer you to the book I showed in the video, by Dom Dysmas De Lassus, the Master General of the Carthusians, "Abuses in the Religious Life and the Path to Healing.' There is a foreword by the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for Religious Life. So the book is very authoritative in addressing contemporary abuses in religious life. I would really recommend reading that book if you are dealing with the issues you described in your comment. In the case you mentioned where the "Church closed monasteries due to spiritual abuse by superiors" I would say those are an obvious case of the opponents of abuse winning their case. But you don't hear much about those that lose their case. What happens to them? Before a boxing match a referee says to both fighters, "Protect yourself at all times!" I would say the same to anyone contesting abuse, use everything at your disposal, prayer, patience, professionals, prudence (knowing when to back off and when to move forward) but most of all... "Protect yourself at all times!" As St Paul, says, we are not just fighting human enemies but the spirits and demons in the air. I would say, "don't be naive, don't be cowardly, don't be gung-ho". It takes a lot of wisdom and prayer and courage. I would say that the prayer to the Holy Spirit who casts out all fear is indispensable. If you could read that book (above) it would bring you much clarity. Good luck!
@@brianbr5388 Thank you very much Br. Brian for your considered response. I will certainly try to read that book and appreciate the recommendation.