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The Forgotten Predecessor to the Miracle at the Meadowlands | Giants @ Buccaneers (1977)
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2024
- Imagine having a 100% chance at winning the game, only to throw it away in the hopes of improving your stats. Well, during week 9 of the 1977 NFL season, that's exactly what the New York Giants did against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, when instead of doing the smart thing with a two-score lead late in the fourth quarter, they decided to do something really stupid that almost backfired
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True confession: I watched this game. I have no recollection of the last minute and the controversy over the safety not being taken, so thanks for the history lesson. The ‘70s Giants were notorious for finding creative ways to lose football games, with one of the prime exhibits being the last week of that same 1977 season at the Meadowlands against the Bears, and what’s known by many as the Slush Bowl. So if the doomsday scenario painted in this video, it actually taken place, it would’ve been par for the course for the Giants of that era.
This would be the last time in 1977 a team would score 10 points, have a lead with less than 30 seconds left in the game, and make a controversial decision to punt.
HC John mcvay went on to be the GM of the 49ers during the Joe Montana years and he's the grandfather of Sean mcvay but for the Giants he just couldn't get it done probably because of having no QB
Wow didn’t know Sean was the grandson!
And to confuse things, Tampa’s coach was John McKay!
Agreed, the 1970's Giants were AWFUL and poor John McVay had to deal with the Mara family feud... That lead to George Young taking over and the rest is history...
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the Buccaneers unwisely punting late in a game against the Rams in 1985.
The 1977 Buccaneers probably have the best defense ever to play on a 2-12 team
Of course you also have to remember how bad those mid 70s Giants were, which means he might be thinking about the morale boost of a shutout. And Jennings was an excellent punter. Daboll is working on bringing those days back with questionable late game decisions.
I remember this game. Back in that era there was hostility brewing between the defense which was good in the 70s and the offense which was inept at that time. Perhaps the coach really wanted to give that defense the shutout to appease them in some way.
This reminds me of, The, Poster Child, for hubris, totally, overriding common sense, SB 52, Tom Brady was driving for a, TD, that would have won the Game, unfortunately, he didn't want to take the sack, you know the rest, the resulting play, essentially, ended the Game, and, turned a, Moral Victory, into an actual one, (not, that I'm complaining).
JG we Giants fans refer to the seasons between 1964-1980 as the wilderness years no playoff appearances and some really bad football 🏈
We are in the midst of another era of "Wilderness Years" with no end in sight.😊
Giants, had, innumerable-periods, unquestionably.
@kevinmadden1645 They also won four SBs, much better than the Eagles, who are, 1-3, in the SB, and, would have been, 0-4, had the Patriots not, stupidly, treated SB 52 like a coronation.
@@matthewdaley746 What you say is all true but whom would you say has been the more competitive franchise over the last ten to fifteen years?
@kevinmadden1645 Thank You, the Eagles, however, they have the same problem as, Philadelphia Sports Teams In General, consistently, being the, second-best, team in their respective sport, they'd, likely, have multiple, Dynasties, in the normal course of events, worse, whenever, they do win, there's, (usually), an excuse, (Royals, weaker, 1980, James Worthy, injured, 1983, Tampa Bay, Happy-To-Be-There, 2008, Patriots, indifferent, 2017), simple as that, terribly, tragic.
11:15-and again, a reference to the man who benefited from said 1978 Miracle (which we Giants fans refer to as "The Fumble").
Pat Summerall was on the PBP-he made note of the intentional safety (stating "will they try it? I doubt it")..unlike that MNF from '73 when they all second guessed Shula's decision before the Dolphins HC made them look foolish.
Larry Csonka caused the fumble, of course, it served him right for bolting from the Dolphins, and, cutting short the, Dynasty, if that doesn't happen, the Steelers don't win four SBs, and, the Raiders, possibly, don't win any, that's that.
@@matthewdaley746 he had told Pisarcik in the huddle right before the play "don't hand it off". Pisarcik was too scared to override the coach's call-and disaster struck.
@andrewpadaetz5549 Don Shula was the only coach who could have had Dan Marino, and, somehow, found a way to, completely, let him down, if the Steelers hadn't been too busy celebrating the, "victory," they were handed by, "The, Immaculate Reception," it's, highly, likely, he never wins a SB, simple as that.
@@andrewpadaetz5549Dumb Decision predictable-result, unquestionably.
Yeah,we know who picked up that fumble in the 1978 game between the giants and eagles 🦅-it was Herman Edward’s who would later coach the jets and the chiefs! Simple as that!! 😊😊😊😊😊😊
This situation also happened
in the 1976 divisional playoff when the RAMS took the safety at the end to beat the COWBOYS 14-12
I don't watch american football, but I'm watching some of your videos because I like interesting sports stories. this video made me look up "the miracle at the meadowlands" since I don't know what that is, and I can't actually find a decent length video on youtube explaining it! do you plan to make one at some point?
Probably not due to copyright issues, but long story short: the Giants had the win in the bag against the Eagles. All they had to do was fall down. Instead, the Giants ran another play, fumbled the ball, and it got returned for a touchdown as they lost
When I saw the title, I thought this would be about the play between the Patriots and Washington at the beginning of the 1978 season where the same fumble recovery for a touchdown apparently happened that was mentioned on both the CBS television broadcast and Merrill Reese's Eagles radio broadcast of the Miracle at the Meadowlands.
Love your work man!
I'm a Buccaneers fan who was born a few years later. Even if the Bucs blocked that punt, I doubt they would've won that game anyway. Their offense was hot trash. I don't have a problem with the Giants punting in that spot. As for the Bucs' win in NOLA later that season, Tampa Bay won in spite of its offense. Tampa Bay's defense triggered that win.
Damn Right, they also beat the Cardinals, and, both coaches were fired, solely, as a result of those losses, in 1979, they lost a boring NFC Championship Game to the Rams, (sound familiar), going back to 1977, John McKay was, notoriously, quoted as saying, "three, four, plane crashes, we're in the, Playoffs."
Matt, it kind of also helped the Rams cause in winning the 1979 NFCCG when one of their defenders intentionally stepped on Buccaneers QB (and emerging star) Doug Williams arm, injuring him and bringing in an ineffective backup. I'm not saying Tampa wouldve beaten L.A. if Williams doesn't get hurt via cheap shot, but Williams himself, as well as other members on that 1979 Bucs team have repeatedly said since that that injury dramatically altered the tone and momentum of the game and allowed Rams to take advantage and win, 9-0. The final score itself is revealing in of itself that it still a close contest and how different the contest mightve gone if a healthy Williams remains. Lets also keep in mind Tampa Bay made two more playoff appearances with Williams over the next three years (both blowout losses to Dallas), but after his departure as a FA to the USFL because notoriously cheap, frugal, incompetent team owner Hugh Culverhouse didnt want to give Williams a first-rate contract after the 1982 season. Tampa wouldn't have another winning season or make the playoffs under Culverhouse or again until 1997. Curiously, this same Doug Williams Tampa cast off would work his way up from being Jay Schroeder's backup in Washington in 1986, being named starter, then becoming the first African-American starting QB to lead his team to a Super Bowl win within 5 years of Tampa discarding him.
@davidroberts7282 Steelers, totally, inevitable, period.
Another one of the most putrid offenses has to be the 1991 Colts. 143 points scored (fun fact: Chip Lohmiller of the Redskins scored 149 points that year on his own); 11 out 16 games scoring single digit point totals; with two times being shutout.
I remember that as a diehard Redskins fan.
Between the 1974 Falcons with 111 points, and said 1977 Bucs and 1991 Colts and 1992 Seahawks… yuck!
6:30 I've actually known this for decades, but it's still cool to see my team's name at the top of that list 😊
Oh, if only that team had stayed together, but, Joe Robbie just wasn't going to allow it to happen, this is a notorious case where you, really, can't root for, either, side, period, dumb.
You're looking at it from the mindset of someone who has never played on a team. I knew before you said it that they would have been upset if the HC took the safety. You keep forgetting that sports is also emotion and not just robotic analytics. Also that Herm Edwards quote was in the context of a journalist asking him why doesn't he quit and not try to win since they were losing at the time.
This was also the reason why in 2004 he made the moronic decision to go for the win against the Rams after realizing that a Playoff spot had been clinched, and, positioning couldn't be improved, this, indefensible, stubbornness, resulted in two more weeks of Mike Martz.
My main question is: Why are Pat Summerall and Tom Brookshier calling a game between these 2 cars of clowns? Oh, and congrats on holding the worst offensive team since WW2 to a shotout
CBS tended to put their #1 team on the New York team a LOT until the late '80s. In 1984, Pat & John called like 10 Giants games and precisely 0 regular season games involving the eventual 15-1 49ers. This despite the fact that Madden lived in the Bay Area and was still traveling by train as opposed to the Madden Cruiser.
Giants, sucked tiny victories.
@@pronkb000Speaking of which, that team was as underrated as the 1985 Bears were overrated, only a horrible call against the Steelers prevented a perfect season, and, they did all of this without Jerry Rice, who would be drafted in 1985.
@@pronkb000 Plus, Summerall played for the Giants, so I wonder if the Giants pressured CBS to put Summerall on as many Giants games as possible.
@Bruce12867 He, was, nastily, overexposed.
What about the Bucs punter going into the end zone for a safety him self? It could have been a 5-0 game instead.
put in the HC's son
The giants fielded good defenses in those days, there offensive was atrocious
I get what you’re saying mathematically, but as you clearly established at the start of the video, the bucs were incapable of scoring a TD.
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I feel like your videos are getting too long