Sony A7C II - A Wise Choice or a Costly Mistake?
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I just bought the A7cii for travel/video & backup to my A7RV. I truly love the form factor and aesthetics of this design. A few things to add; the "AI" really makes a lot of difference compared to the A7IV not only in AF and Subject Tracking (BTW, I mapped my back button to Subject Tracking. Now, you can lock on to a subject and recompose; who needs a joystick), but the AI processor has improved the AWB so much so that skin tones are far better. I don't think that the rolling shutter challenge will change until we get a much faster sensor installed (maybe stacked one day). For me, if I had 4k60 full sensor read - that would do it for me (I'm hoping that the A7V has it).
Yea the af is faaaar better. I’ve had the zve1 since pre launch and that was the first camera I tried it on and I was floored.
It maps me so good that it’s ridiculous. Sony is always pushing the AF to new heights, and just their tech in general.
I hadn’t thought about the skin tones being a lot nicer, thank you for that input. Will do some tests ☺️
Thank you Arnulfur for the helpful and informative Sony A7C II review! Good luck!
Great video! I love your combination of substantial information and good vibes 🚀👍 Did you notice some overheating with the camera or something that contradicts long form videos (30min+)? Im looking for a substitute of my A7 iii as I do video podcasts (long format) and street photography.
Great video! Which display do you use for your Mac? (Background)
I am a washed up DSLR user transitioning into mirrorless. I'll be taking on Iceland next week with my A6400 and 18-105mm. Thanks for all the great content, it has been such a help!
lol your comment made me laugh
Merci ! I m glad you did not say anything upsetting about it from my APS-C photo centric user point of view 😊
eyyy thank you so much! ❤
I still prefer a7iv, but thanks for the video 😌 few of my friends can find it helpful 🙏🏻
That front dail is perhaps the main thing that makes me consider upgrading. I'm very happy with the a7c. So when I do eventually upgrade, this will definitely be high up on the list.
It’s a great camera imo ☺️
To be honest I think it’s the best full frame for street photography and casual family trips but it can also give you amazing professional looking videos all with in a small body with a fair price
It’s a full frame A6700
To be honest if I had to choose I’d go for the A6700 cause I like the 1.5x crop factor and the cheaper APS-C lenses available for it
Is the difference in autofocus between A7IV and A7CII a dealbraker? Im thinking which one of those two cameras to choose to upgrade from apsc to full frame. i like to shoot portraits, sport, animals and ill have my first wedding in the summer. Also i have samyang 35-150 and the bigger body would probably feel more balanced with the lens than my current ZVE10 😂Thanks for any tips!
my biggest purchase intent is the S&Q feature:
Will the finished slow motion file be saved in 4k?
In short, do I have the finished slow motion file 4k60p on my memory card?
without having to slow down in post
hey, I have a question for you because I heard that the Sony a7c ii is "more plastic" than the first version a7c, something like the zv e1. Does this only apply to the black version or is the silver version also made of the same material as the black one?
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You never miss a chance to remind us that you are a professional I love it 😂
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Did you notice a high temperature after some shots?
Awesome video! But don't know if at the end it's a game changer or all hype 😁 Would you recommend this one? I'm between this one and the ZV-E1. I do mostly video but I want to dive into photography a bit more.
Maybe I should just use my old tried and tested title: is it worth it? 😂
Might change title lol. But yea I recommend it. Zve1 is better for video though but this one is much better for photos. 👀 dunno if this answer helps lol
Absolutely! Then going for this one and like you said, that silver color is 🔥
I'm not gonna lie, because of the size I keep thinking about the A7C line up a lot lately, but I have already to many cameras right :D
Would you personally take a hybrid body like the A7C II / a6700 or would you rather take two bodies setup with you e.g. ZVE1 for video and A74 (because of bigger EVF) for photo?
Enjoyed your content as always - have a nice weekend with your family my friend! :)
Uhm depends. So I would probably go hybrid because I’m me. But I often think about getting two separate.
It’s the constant battle right? Buy more gear or not 😂
i'm still rocking the lumix gh4. maybe it's time for me to upgrade 😆
i've never used the lumix but if it's till good then maybe no need to switch? :)But the a7cii is great!
I think it was an intentional decision to give it only one card slot. They want professional photographers to pay extra. What I don't like about the camera is the slow CPU which as you mentioned leads to rolling shutter and the camera being overwhelmed with 4k60p (thus requiring a crop) and 4K120p. It is simply due to the CPU being too slow. And that is so annoying. Because what does Sony expect me to do? Buy a 4700 Euro FX3 and then a 4000 Euro Sony A7R5 for photo? I can not pay close to 10K for two cameras because the only one that has it all has a slow processor.
I wonder is there any lenses out there for pocket size setup with a7c?
Yes, Sony developed a special line to be pocket sized. There are also the Samyang lenses that are small.
Sony 40 2.5
How is the background blur/bokeh???
Nice and compact body, but there's no getting away from the fact full frame lenses are larger. So while the body is lighter compared with the majority of full frame cameras, you're still lugging around those larger lenses.
hi mate! in your own opinion, does a7cii is good for professional use? like shooting prenups, weddings, debut, etc
Def! absolutely
I use this camera professionally, however, I'm not sure it I'd dare to shoot a wedding with it due to it only having one SD-card slot. Even though SD-cards scrambling are really a thing of the past, it would he absolutely heartbreaking if it does after shooting a wedding!
Damn, why did they max out the shutter speed at 1/4000 of a second? With the a7IV you can shoot at f/1.4-f/1.8 in bright light because the shutter goes all the way to 1/8000.
I have a nikon d750 - Im old skool and love the camera but I want a smaller size ff. This looks perfect, its just the EVF which puts me off. I read that it really is impossible to upgrade the EVF with a camera that size because of minimal OLED sized panels. You not mention this or did I miss it?
I'm in exactly the same situation as you. i also have a g85 which is the same resolution as this, it's ok
me still for a7c because enough for hobby photography maybe I want zve10 for second camera
I understand it is not weather-resistant. But so far how is it outdoor? Any dust entering the sensor? or water droplets sip in?
Bro just put tape around it. Cut 6 pieces of tape 5x times and cover it
A wise choice! Sure, would have been great to have 2 card slots, Zf-style, a larger grip and a joystick.
But it's great as it is, and way better than the original a7C.
Yes a joy stick would hvað been nice indeed ☺️
Sony will can do a game changer if they add on the 4k 120fps on a firmware update like for the ZV-E1 ! Same hardware spec between the twice, so let's go SONY, do the best for all of us!!!
Ah that would be nice, I think it’s all planned so it not killing off another camera, make one too good and no one will buy the other and it dies. Sadly.
@@thaticelandicguy sure! But i hope 😆 ! A6700 is APS-C, ZV-E1 is a vlogging camera in full frame with a 12MP sensor so maybe my wish coming true soon! (i hope again 😁)
what do you think about the weather sealing
I just had my a7c out in a very dense snowstorm, where my friends d3500 fried and my a7c survived. It was about as wet as you could get it shy of having it out in heavy rain. Very impressed but I’d rather not do that again lol
Just put tape around your lens like a normal person
I used to have a sony rx100 and it was a beast. Tiny in your pocket. And we all know that the best camera is the one you have in your pocket with you.
And considering I like astrophotography and low light the extra sensor size is amazing. I can recover insane details from ultra dark scenes (*cough* lightroom ai denoise *cough*).
All in all I am in love but I am here to say, to all the new entries photographers watching this, get the 6700! You will get tired of a bigger camera with bigger and expensive lenses!
the a6700 is great and hahah that LR AI denoise is way to good, ISO 20000000 no problem 😂
Which you prefer a7iv or a7cii for professional?
buy bought
@@larrylaffer4304 i bought the a7iv
What are your thoughts on this camera? 🤔
Just replaced my a7 iv for a7c ii. As an enthusiast only I valued size over some pro features.
I bought it with 16-35 II and 35-150 2.8. Downsized from R5/R6 and a whole lineup of L lenses.
My back appreciates that decision 😅
@@rustytoolworks I can imagine that!
@@Harshpatil_GooglePlus nice, you happy with the choice? :)
@@thaticelandicguy so far I do not miss any features. My plan next is to find the most compact everyday carry setup with the a7c2.
is it actually weather sealed? couldnt find any official statement on that
Its dust & splash proof. And petapixel said that its weather sealed just like A7iv.
my only gripe with this camera is that it does not have a joystick
Debating between this and the Fuji x100vi … any advice ? Novice here
If you are a beginner and would like to take decent photos SOOC, you can consider choosing the Fuji. A little bit cheaper as well. However if u want interchangeable lens and full frame a better AF go for Sony.
I have a Fuji x100v and a Sony a7c. The Fuji is nice if you want to shoot jpeg and not process your photos, but the a7c is way more versatile with full frame in the same size body. Also the Sony lets you choose your lenses, the x100v is fixed!
9:30 btw I don t think A7c line was for such pro use but more Street photographers or Leica guys
yea I do agree with you, but just thought I'dd put it there :)
I come from the A7II, so this upgrade is a no brainer for the cost. The A7IV would be an option, but i prefer having the updated autofocus.
Im just worried about the bokeh… A7R 1 user here
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I guess it has the same limitations as the A7iv : 10 FPS is compressed RAW only with EVF refresh rate at 10 FPS, 8 FPS compressed RAW with normal EVF refresh rate, 6 FPS with uncompressed RAW... My experience with the A7iv for sports is that 6 FPS is the right choice if you like sharp pictures anyway.
Oh, and shutter noise is nicer than the A7iv's probably because it's only half a shutter (first curtain electronic ). You should compare with the A7iv in that mode.
Ah yea I can imagine, but yea I thought that shutter sound was nice indeed. It does something when you like that sound haha
Hello Hello from France. I agrée with you with the crop factor. For me one slot don t a problem (like a6700, zve1….), Jason Morris Shaw that 1080 120 in full frame was équivalent to 4k 120 of fx30 (so a6700), so i prefer the a7c2 with it s great Isis, great 4k 24….than apsc. This is only my choice of course.
Let s go on, I look all your vidéos!
thank you I truly appreciate it!
have you tried this with sigma 24-70?
yea works great :)
AS a Sony user for 8 years - I tried this in low light 3200-4000 ISO - it couldn't recognise faces and was quite useless - I used it for 4 days on a film studio set mounted on a crane arm with a remote control. Tried different AF setting zones (with face recog') WILL NOT USE AGAIN...
If they only would include better creative styles or the possibility to import LUTs/presets, to compete with the fuji recipes...
You can import luts
@@yeltesoete for videos - not for stills
can you shut off the shutter sound altogether? Is there a completely silent mode on this camera?
There is silent mode on the a7c and every other Sony body I have. I can’t imagine the A7CII won’t have this option
Hei bro..Can you please upload a cinematic photo editing video on lightroom mobile in the coming days..?
Making a video takes more than a few days. It needs planning, a script, filming and at the end of course editing.
I'd love to see a video with that topic as well even though I do have my own editing style and workflow. I always like to be inspired. But man. Give this dude a liiiittle bit more time! 😅 swich "in the next days" to "in the future"
I hope this isn't misunderstood man. No hard feelings whatsoever 😄🙌
thank you so much! for these words my friend and having my back 😌 I also have two small kids, so time is really scarce. Idk my guy but @rameessahsad9428 I find this request quite demanding and rude tbh
@@r4ptuRe_1337
I agree with what you said.. 👍Which country are you from..?
@@thaticelandicguy
Peace be with you and your family..🤗
Just make videos in your spare time.okey..?
What is your real name..?
Which country will be..?
just reply
@@thaticelandicguy" tbh your last words are definitely rude " your viewers admire you hence they make such requests. These should be proud moments for you. You can politely decline any request depending upon your time availability.
Think about it for next time. It's not difficult to be polite.
So I guess with A6700, there isn’t significant different in photography, but A7C2 is more advance (7 stops ibis) in video. I mean apsc and full frame these day if U post the results side by side, people won’t care and can’t compare again that are those photos came from apsc or full frame. unless U write the meta data then people be like “aah this full frame is better” I am sick of “full frame mindset” 😂
😂 yea on the comparison video I did I had people guessing which was which. Kinda impossible
Camera is good 👍🏾
I agree!
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If you’re adding huge lenses to these bodies, I believe u should just get the a74. You’re not really saving that much space.
should have been 40mp
I think its for street
If an a7c II is a marketing hype then what the fuck is literally everything Fuji makes? Its just a pocket version of the a7 cameras thats all.
Hello sir plz give me 1 camea 😢😢
Your use of black backgrounds with white speckles flashing all over the place might look cool to you but is so distracting I stopped watching and looked for a review where the images and video from the camera could be seen clearly
Dumb comment and totally disagree.
Your comment isn't that dumb @@thegreatharrisoni