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  • čas přidán 4. 03. 2018
  • John Atkinson (Editor, Stereophile) listens to three of his own recordings played on the legendary IRS V loudspeaker system, driven by PS Audio's BHK 300 monoblocks. Recorded with a Sennheiser Ambeo. Filmed in Boulder, CO January 2018.
    Track 1: "It¹s Alright" by Curtis Mayfield, performed by Cantus, from the 2008 CD "Out of the Box" - 16/44.1k ALAC file
    Track 2: "Water Night" by Eric Whitacre, performed by the Portland State Chamber Choir, 2015, unreleased - 24/88.2k AIFF file
    Track 3: "Toccata" from the Organ Symphony No. 5 by Widor, performed by Jonas Nordwall, 2014, unreleased - 24/88.2k AIFF file
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Komentáře • 454

  • @juliaset751
    @juliaset751 Před 6 lety +119

    I have to respect PS Audio. Paul says that anyone can come by in person and get a tour, and sit right there in listening room one and experience what John just experienced. How many audio manufacturers will even think of doing that? BTW, headphones needed for this.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety +6

      Yeah and they charge $800 for a mains cable, this company is pure snake oil.

    • @fletcherfletcher3280
      @fletcherfletcher3280 Před 6 lety +7

      If boulder wasn't 5000 miles away I'd be there like a shot, but sadly money and distance is a stumbling block, but I appreciate the time and effort ps audio take to share their knowledge and information on CZcams.

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh Před 5 lety +21

      Suzy Siviter so if you have an irs V or a setup that needs two 10,000 usd amplifiers..... there is a marginal improvement to be had with a 800 dollar cable over a 1 dollar PC cable, particularly on a 100k+ USD system. Paul himself will tell you not to buy it for lesser systems.

    • @danielmarshall4587
      @danielmarshall4587 Před 5 lety +4

      I fear I'd be "giddy as f£^k" if I were to sit and listen to that system.

    • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
      @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před 5 lety +3

      @@danielmarshall4587 "I'm not worthy".

  • @sMASHsound
    @sMASHsound Před 6 lety +23

    i wish all classical music was recorded with this standard of low frequency information

  • @zoltangz
    @zoltangz Před 4 lety +13

    Wow ,, my studio SONY earbuds almost blew me away with that Toccata bass !! I can just imagine what those things must sound like in person !

  • @scottbennett3119
    @scottbennett3119 Před 6 lety +6

    Thanks for sharing your listening experience of PS Audio`s Reference System, I truly enjoyed it!

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w Před rokem +1

    Great to have this record of the IRS V speakers playing well recorded music. Already they are missing from PS Audio and are lost to the public.

  • @bscross32
    @bscross32 Před 3 lety +5

    Even through a recording of a recording, and all the stuff CZcams does as far as compression, I can sense the power in that system.

  • @user-od9iz9cv1w
    @user-od9iz9cv1w Před 3 lety +1

    I really appreciate the Stereophile team. John, Herb and Michael all have an amazing body ok knowledge combined with a love of the subject and a means to express that is unique. I worry that there will be no one to replace them when their time is done.

  • @alastairchestnutt6416
    @alastairchestnutt6416 Před 6 lety +1

    Superb music choice, superb recording and reproduction. Very rare to hear reproduced music that is as close to something like the original sound. Really enjoyed your music which is always a good sign of a good system.

  • @TheRaccoonwrangler
    @TheRaccoonwrangler Před 6 lety +5

    That sounded incredible! I am listening on a 2.5 Kw System I felt like I was siting in the chair next to John. MY hair was literally moving back and forth as was the walls The fidelity was outstanding! I could even feel Paul's shit eating grin on his face in the next room! Thank You!!!

  • @_g7085
    @_g7085 Před 3 lety +2

    The image of John sitting motionless as room-height pillars reproduce (audio) reality perfectly in front of him.
    Kinda looks like an old, cheesey sci-fi movie. Also slightly dystopian.

  • @daredevilkk
    @daredevilkk Před 6 lety +13

    Is there any way to get the unreleased tracks? Sounds good and I enjoyed the music.

  • @UmVtCg
    @UmVtCg Před 5 lety +10

    Enough choirs, lets rock

  • @ArnoldVroomans
    @ArnoldVroomans Před 6 lety +4

    I could actually feel my headphones shaking with the toccata from Widor.

  • @TheMB2333
    @TheMB2333 Před 6 lety +26

    How about a critique and impressions?!

  • @pamelarios4324
    @pamelarios4324 Před 3 lety +5

    OMFG! That bass at the end... Just wow!

  • @jked7463
    @jked7463 Před 5 lety +3

    You need to release the whole concert from its alright. Sounds like they were in top form and having a good time. If it sounded good through you tube, it must sound awsome directly out of a good system.

  • @amerintex
    @amerintex Před 6 lety +4

    Thanks for sharing it sounded awesome through my planar magnetic headphones

  • @asilva781
    @asilva781 Před 6 lety +3

    A glimpse of how this system really sounds.

  • @animalmuppetmonster664
    @animalmuppetmonster664 Před 4 lety +1

    Am I the only one who can hear the room? the room reverberationr? I'm not saying it's bad but it's there.

    • @edthefirst2859
      @edthefirst2859 Před 4 lety

      Solo para subir videos videos yes it a very live room

  • @davidcooper5442
    @davidcooper5442 Před 2 lety +1

    the bass on tack 3 is superb , the full weight of the organ could be heard and felt

  • @bertoray5497
    @bertoray5497 Před 4 lety +1

    I could feel the bass in my stomach with my headphones on. I could hear my stomach with my speakers on.

  • @patrickwalsh467
    @patrickwalsh467 Před rokem +1

    A wonderful set of recordings. I listened through a pair of Totem Mani-2 speakers running full range using a Red Dragon class D 250-WPC amplifier. The low end was supported by a REL-212SE. The low organ pedals were a thrill, even through YT. Is the original digital file for the organ piece available somewhere? I’ve searched and cannot find it. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 Před 6 lety +2

    a pretty good recording of the room, the last song got some low and delicious notes in it. i enjoyed it :)

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi Před 6 lety +2

    If a 1980s flagship speaker can blow away a listener who's profession it is to evaluate to the most up to date reference systems... it makes me wonder how far we've actually advanced the state if the art in audio.

    • @the_sheet
      @the_sheet Před 3 lety

      I think materials have improved somewhat... perhaps for a given price, you can get better sound now. (I listened to a 60,000$ Sony system in Vancouver in 1988 which was excellent, and I am sure you can get that sound for less now even with inflation..). but, yeah, this kind of sound is life altering..... yeah.....

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 Před 6 lety +2

    PSA:
    listing with headphones gives the best spacial sounds and it sounds like you are in the room.
    listening with proper speakers will let you feel the deep bass in the organ music.
    so you actually have to have both to hear the most you can out of this recording.

    • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
      @JeffCounsil-rp4qv Před 5 lety

      And even then, the sucky You Tube compression ruins the whole experience. Nevertheless, it still gives you a "taste" of what it might sound like if you were in the room.

  • @Loussiere
    @Loussiere Před 6 lety +2

    WOW, from here with my headphones, my heart stopped!

    • @JeffCounsil-rp4qv
      @JeffCounsil-rp4qv Před 5 lety +1

      @@suzesiviter6083 Too bad you're not the "less" one. You have a chip on your shoulder and airing your dirty laundry isn't going to relieve you of that burden. Nobody even cares if you don't like it. You would be "less" of a moron if you didn't stroke your negative ego and try to attract more negativity into your world just so you have some company in your misery.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 5 lety

      @@JeffCounsil-rp4qv Use some f*king common sense, no one can judge a system listening to another system recorded by microphones, its moronic to think you can, even if your system is better than the one you are listening to!

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull Před 5 lety +2

    that organ track is amazing

  • @garypoole716
    @garypoole716 Před 4 lety +1

    It’s a pity so much youtube compression, but still sounds great out of my Tannoy’s👍

    • @wb5mgr
      @wb5mgr Před 3 lety

      At least make sure you force it up to 1080p60. Still compression but sounds way better.

  • @amirjubran1845
    @amirjubran1845 Před 6 lety +20

    Might be a little inappropriate for JA to answer, but I was hoping he would have given a quick synopsis of the experience and how it ranks to other great systems he's experienced.

    • @dannywoods3928
      @dannywoods3928 Před 6 lety +1

      This is exactly what I wanted to hear, and waited to hear!
      Went up there myself about 4 years ago, and it didn't sound perfect back then. That was before the BHK though, so I'd love to hear John's impressions.

    • @friedmule5403
      @friedmule5403 Před 6 lety

      Amir Jubran in a way he did, not verbal but look at the small hints you get from his body language.
      First from behind, he leans back at the first number, that could mean that he find that the music goes out to him, that he does not have to lean forward to enjoy the music.
      Second he does almost not move at all, so the "air-guitar effect" are lacking, ok we cant see his front but when you look at his face after the first two numbers, he is neutral and emotionless. It is only after the third number, he has emotions.
      So the conclusion could be that it sounds good, detailed and so on, but it does not touch him musically.
      On the other hand, he has only selected one number that test the system, the two first, could a small amplifier with smaller speakers easily play.

  • @dkmi
    @dkmi Před 3 lety

    I grew up 2 miles from where this place is. Man, I wish I still lived there. They'd get tired of seeing my face around there.

  • @kevinmcgrath3591
    @kevinmcgrath3591 Před 6 lety +1

    Very cool idea. fascinating, sounded great on my Sennheisers. Please post the original files so we can download them, even pieces of them !! just to compare them with the CZcams audio - thanks

  • @cubinn149
    @cubinn149 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow this has awesome sound on my system amazing in that room i would love to hear it in person

  • @tapemaster8252
    @tapemaster8252 Před 6 lety +5

    Sounds amazing, I'd love to hear them in person

    • @sting64az
      @sting64az Před 5 lety

      I have heard these from a friend of mine a while back. They do sound very good and pleasing to the ear. But I prefer classic JBL because I wanna hear the truth.

    • @mhp_loudspeakers3768
      @mhp_loudspeakers3768 Před 4 lety

      @@sting64az this infinity speakers are better than als JBL's ever made. JBL ist pretty good but the are the reference for many years

  • @johnnyf99music74
    @johnnyf99music74 Před 5 lety +2

    That was actually pretty good.. I was able to reference the sound through my AKG's. Was kinda fun to listen to the really low pipe fundamentals. Bass is really easy, yet hard, to reproduce. People slap a sub on anything and can feel this or that.. But true base fidelity (the kind that you hear live) has depth, articulation and imagery (yes, imagery). Base, like treble, is supported by its fundamentals that go beyond most speakers ranges. Some modern speaker and system designers achieve this through processing, but to hear a system that "natively" has this range is a purer approach. And as you can see, like a pipe organ, needs to be BIG. Of course we can talk about modern music engineering practices and it's foibles, but that's another discussion.

  • @monetize_this8330
    @monetize_this8330 Před 4 lety +1

    My headphones couldn't handle the organ track on the really low notes. AKG K100s
    - attempt no.2 with jbl in-ear headphones + headphone amp. The clarity of the hand clapping on track #1 was very clear. But, still craps out on the organ track.

  • @infn
    @infn Před 6 lety +2

    I'm listening with my ATH-E70s and this system must, in reality, be so transparent and resolving that it seems like the limitations of recording a recording played back over speakers aren't that bad at all.
    Despite all the naysaying, one can glean some information from recordings of speakers on CZcams. Given sufficiently decent microphones and capable speakers/headphones to hear with, it's possible to understand how resolving, transparent and clear a pair of speakers are.
    The outcome will by necessity be a gross estimation and will likely deviate from how it sounds like in person but how different is that from living vicariously through a critic's review of any hifi system?

  • @rainong2029
    @rainong2029 Před 6 lety +3

    Thanks you sir, Great experience.
    Am surprised to hear so much with such simple recording set up.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Yes really make you experience expensive speakers through those poxy PC speakers you have dont they dick?

  • @squab101
    @squab101 Před 6 lety +2

    hopefully get to hear them in person one day, thanks for letting us get a taste, sadly the recording in this way was a bit stupid.

  • @norizelianaie
    @norizelianaie Před 5 lety +3

    that is WOW! listening from philippines!

  • @dangoh2237
    @dangoh2237 Před 2 lety

    Is the most natural sound that I ever heard! Awesome!

  • @bobsmith8368
    @bobsmith8368 Před 5 lety +29

    Well, Mr Atkinson did not actually give his impressions of the sound which is disappointing. The only thing more disappointing than the review, were some of the comments. I don't get why people become so mean and immature while seated behind their keyboards. I guess it is just our culture now. Very disappointing, some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

    • @doowopper1951
      @doowopper1951 Před 5 lety

      Bob Smith examples?? I did not see one example of what you are claiming. They may differ from your viewpoint, or mine, but I did not see any comment that was out of the norm of an adult like conversation. Maybe by today, 4/6/19, might they be deleted?? Or do you have a totally different perspective than I?? (And if you do, that’s okay, but I’d love to at least try to see where you are coming from)

    • @DuzBee
      @DuzBee Před 5 lety +1

      Bob Smith Every one is entitled to an opinion, yet here you are forcing your opinion of them. Just relax.

  • @Wombat86dkdk
    @Wombat86dkdk Před 4 lety +1

    This sounds so good on my old Nokia phone.

  • @mannail888
    @mannail888 Před 6 lety

    Three cheers to Stereophile and John Atkinson for taking the trouble to give us (the laymen and less well-heeled) a taste of this most legendary IRS Mk V system. Thank you.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Explain how recording an expensive speaker can possibly give us a taste Sherlock?

    • @mannail888
      @mannail888 Před 6 lety

      If you don't know it by now, you"d never know, Suzy Siviter.

    • @edthefirst2859
      @edthefirst2859 Před 4 lety

      Suzy Siviter I’ll give you a taste of something....

  • @Jack96993
    @Jack96993 Před 4 lety +1

    I was lucky to hear these speakers back in 1996 at a dealers house. Can't remember the source, but do remember the song
    Rodger Miller " King of the road" I was godsmacked!!

  • @jamesromeyn8165
    @jamesromeyn8165 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks John for this wonderful recording.
    The sound is quite revealing on my MB Quart "Quart Phone 450" cans. John's preferred binaural recording method requires cans for anything resembling proper perspective; binaural recordings are fail on loudspeakers of any kind.
    Dr. Earl Geddes' delay target for reverberant field is 10ms (0.01 S). In the video, it appears the front of the main speaker panel is in the range of 5.5 feet from the front wall. (On IRS V, the mids are dipoles; the rear firing tweeters are likely only about 1" behind the front of the panel.) 1130 fps (speed of sound) x .01 S = 11.3 feet. Multiply the 5.5 foot distance x2 because rear energy travels from the speaker to the front wall back to the speaker. 11.3/2 = 5.65 feet.
    Owners of bipole and dipole speakers who experiment with front wall distance are likely to notice perspective "lock in" when the distance approaches 5.5 feet from the front wall to the rear firing speaker source.
    I've heard the IRS III, with lesser supporting gear (by a wide margin). The overall perspective is similar here, but at a much higher level of resolution in the mid/treble. The IRS III is absolutely an audio high light for me. The room in which I heard the III was about 10x as large, and I'm sure it suffers far less bass mode problems than Paul's room in this video (the smaller the room, generally the worse are bass modes).
    I'm very glad John made this recording.

  • @SamB-fv6su
    @SamB-fv6su Před 4 lety +1

    Great audio advice from Michael Ondaatje !

  • @kevinmccormick419
    @kevinmccormick419 Před 5 lety

    Thank you! Excellent music slection

  • @kevinpi9828
    @kevinpi9828 Před 4 lety

    That first track alone sounded amazing on my laptop speakers. It only scales up from there, folks.

  • @redleather100
    @redleather100 Před 5 lety

    Awesome I know people blab on about you can’t hear through CZcams but my £80 Sony crappie headphones were flapping on my ears when that organ hit that low note .

  • @Charidemus
    @Charidemus Před 6 lety +1

    Wooooow that deep low frequency of the the pipe organ gave me ear massage! Try to listen this with a good set of headphones and it will give you a very good representation of what he felt in this room. Amazing binaural effect. Try some Fostex T50 RP MK3

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Wow better than an original recording eh?, you idiot.

    • @Charidemus
      @Charidemus Před 6 lety

      Well my friend. Calling me an idiot it's the easy way to do things. But that way your are not telling me what i did wrong. Why don't you try to help me first? After all my comment is about what "i felt" by hearing "this recording" and we all know the individuality o human hearing... And something to think... Do you know if i ever heard an original recording or maybe a live performance? Have a good day. :)
      P.S. English is not my native language so i might gave you a misleading explanation

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      I cannot make judgements on your intelligence, but your statement was less than intelligent. No one can possibly make comment about a recording of an expensive speaker; its a question of bottlenecks.

    • @Charidemus
      @Charidemus Před 6 lety

      Well if calling me an idiot is not a judgment of my intelligence than maybe i am missing something. But... let me try again to explain what my statement was all about.
      As i told you before my comment was all about what i felt. Not about the quality of the speakers neither the sound quality or anything else.
      This is a binaural recording and the psychoacoustic effect is reproduced very well but only through headphones. It gives you a pseudo dimensionality. This is why i wrote that it will give you (a very good representation of what he felt in this room) Try it your self i am sure you will like it to. ;) I hope that helped you understand what my comment was all about.
      By the way. In my native language and in any other language that i know, calling a person an idiot IS a judgment of his/her intelligence. So i will call this a moment of bad judgment.
      Have good day. :)

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Well perhaps you are far too sensitive to be writing CZcams comments)

  • @MrCatalysis101
    @MrCatalysis101 Před 6 lety +7

    The perfect speaker doesn't exist, of course, but there are a few moments here when these reach a certain nirvana. Please keep bringing us these recordings of different systems. They absolutely give a sense of what it's like to be in the room. Thank you.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Do they Mr Golden ears?. You knobwipe, use some common sense.

    • @MrCatalysis101
      @MrCatalysis101 Před 6 lety

      Suzy Siviter get some better headphones.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety +1

      You cant judge a speaker unless you use better speakers and better microphones than the speakers under test, this test was a complete waste of time, its called a bottle neck dear..plain old common sense!

    • @MrCatalysis101
      @MrCatalysis101 Před 6 lety +2

      Suzy Siviter I disagree. And by the way, get some manners.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      MrCatalysis101 of course you would disagree, I am only rude to people who say moronic things as per your statement.

  • @outtarespecttomyfawtha1589

    My setup is composed of 4 box speakers (2 sets of the Sony HCD-MX500i) and a subwoofer made by ultimate ears, the hyperboom. The hyperboom is a bluetooth speaker but when hooked up to a subwoofer output port it works incredibly well as a sub. I listened to these tracks with my bose queitcomfort earphones, my sony over ear headphones, and this was after hearing this through my speaker setup. I'm completely serious when I say that the headphone experience did not come close, nor does it ever come close, to my speaker setup. My setup cost a grand total of $600, and $400 of that is from the cost of the hyperboom. The Sony HCD-MX500i are like $75 bucks these days on ebay due to being old, literally have a 30 pin connector build in to it for an ipod dock. I read in the comments people were saying that you "needed" headphones to listen, but for me that provided a far worse impression of the sound. That being the case, I really have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of spending so much on speakers when my cheapo setup does a better job than headphones do, and good headphones at that. I'm sure these speakers are better than mine, but they aren't $27 thousand better. It's vanity. Stack a bunch of box speakers on top of each other and match the wattage and I'm sure you'll have a very similar experience while saving 30 grand.

  • @xabras1
    @xabras1 Před rokem

    Hallo I'm an Italian music passionate I really love that it's alright arrangement, do you think it's fairly possible for you to send me the alac file you recorded during the 2008 live session in Minneapolis? Thanks anyways! The you two are doing a great job thanks Fabio

  • @davehwang6815
    @davehwang6815 Před 6 lety

    John looks so cool, like a godfather of high end audio. Certainly he is.

  • @linnemeyerhere
    @linnemeyerhere Před 6 lety

    No way other than to be there to fully understand the glory of this system and these amazing speakers which I had the pleasure of hearing once in Arnie Nudell's system.....I then went home and kicked my speakers as if to ask them the grow up into full IRS's unfortunately that has never happened to date !

  • @sandyshoremann7524
    @sandyshoremann7524 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for posting. I'm a bit non-plussed with the Imaging. Do I hear Overload or hard limiting at 17:08 Even with the low average recording level. Or am I just rattling my sad, perforated eardrum off the Anvil? Cheers! Sandy.

  • @kritischer_blick
    @kritischer_blick Před 6 lety +1

    Hi John Atkinson, what a incredible big loudspeakersystem! Thank you for the fantastic video! Where i can listen the original tracks in hidef audio? Where can i buy this songs in your quality? What do you think about naim audio?

  • @ryanstratton1925
    @ryanstratton1925 Před 6 lety +3

    Wow I can really hear a lot of depth to this recording, pretty impressive for a 300 mic.

    • @sudd3660
      @sudd3660 Před 6 lety +2

      i really enjoyed the recording also, poor mic tries to convey the massive bass output and does distort here and there. but i get the sense of the scale of the bass output in the room.

  • @TempoGroove
    @TempoGroove Před 2 lety +1

    That bass can scramble your Dna😅

  • @robertj606
    @robertj606 Před 5 lety

    Kudos to you sir. Fully professional video, when music played tiny wave in the left bottom corner wobbles protecting screen from burn in. Very thoughtful. I'm impressed with PS Audio factory tour as well. If you in Cork Ireland any time soon sir, you can drop in to my place and record bits and pieces with you fancy mic too. Cheers

    • @KarlHamilton
      @KarlHamilton Před 4 lety

      I don't think you know how burn in works :/

  • @thesheeeet
    @thesheeeet Před 5 lety

    I still get a sense of the majesty of this system! While I agree with the comments about youtube compression etc, the arguments are a little like saying water isn't blue because of light absorption and the litany of other scientific lingo. the fact is: water is blue and (personal tastes aside), this system sounds amazing. listened to it on MacBook air and AKG 240's

  • @fredericdondin
    @fredericdondin Před 5 lety

    I wonder how these vintage high-end speakers compare with vintage high-end passive Cabasse speakers. Also how the BHK mono amps - IRS V combo compare with the vintage active 4 ways Cabasse Albatros (both setups using the same PS audio preamp and DSdac+transport combo).

  • @cesteres
    @cesteres Před 3 lety +1

    Brown trousers moment bass

  • @0bzen22
    @0bzen22 Před 5 lety +2

    That second choir track. Is it zvailable? I'd love to have a copy.

  • @charleskingReal
    @charleskingReal Před 4 lety

    Lots of positive comments about the sound here. I suppose that indicates that the 128kbps 44.1kHz AAC youtube uses is actually pretty d**n good. Not that I'd expect any audiophiles to actually admit this...

  • @OrganNLou
    @OrganNLou Před 5 lety

    WOW, SO WONDERFUL!!

  • @histubeness
    @histubeness Před 6 lety

    This would have sounded more impressive if John had included the BSG Qol Signal Completion Stage in the component line-up. The applause at the end of the first recording, for instance, would have sounded noticeably more live, as it should. Though I doubt Paul Mcgowan would have allowed it.

  • @StephaneVorstellung
    @StephaneVorstellung Před 6 lety

    We are the sons of no one, bastards of young. We are the sons of no one, bastards of young. The fathers and the sons.

  • @m.9243
    @m.9243 Před 6 lety +1

    Don't know if it's the CZcams limitation on sound quality but, to my ears, (and headphones), the whole thing sounded ....mono!
    Perhaps more demanding music such as, a large Symphonic Orchestra in full swing would tell more about soundstage, depth and separation of instruments etc.
    These huge speakers seem to me far too close to each other, given their size and capabilities. Is there an issue with room size / limitations?
    Sorry to say, this demonstration did not impress and, I am sure the equipment at hand is capable of much more.
    ----------------------------------
    PS: I also engaged a pair of Dynavector speakers at the end of a Meridian amp and a NAD M51 DAC fed directly by the computer hoping for better results..
    Disappointing outcome. It still sounded MONO.
    PS 2: Please, don't take the above as a criticism of these fabulous speakers, amplifiers and room. It's rather directed to the poor quality of CZcams reproduction of sound from such a fine system!

    • @jlo8775
      @jlo8775 Před 2 lety +1

      I get a kick out of these comments. Especially the guy who said how fantastic it sounds on his laptop speakers 🤦‍♂️ The reality is, CZcams sounds like compressed garbage.

  • @InsideOfMyOwnMind
    @InsideOfMyOwnMind Před 5 lety

    I just re-listened through ear buds on a J7. When SHTF @ 14:30 ish damn! Where can I get one of those?😄

  • @TheJosa007
    @TheJosa007 Před 6 lety +1

    What an unique experience. Thank you for sharing

  • @coreyfellows9420
    @coreyfellows9420 Před 4 lety

    This sounds AMAZING...
    On my crappy prepay phone with a crappy speaker...

  • @mrmike7932
    @mrmike7932 Před 6 lety +9

    Isn’t this pointless for us to listen to this the sound will only be as good as the speakers we are listening on

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety +2

      A voice of reason amongst the tards!

    • @SaintKimbo
      @SaintKimbo Před 6 lety +4

      Well, not everyone has got budget plastic speakers or are listening to this on their crappy laptop, why don't you invest in some quality sound gear and then you may be able to tell the difference between well recorded music played on fantastic speakers and music played on a cheap Chinese boombox on You tube videos.
      By the way, you are about the 50 millionth person to make the old "it's only as good as You tube quality" statement, sigh

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Saint Kimbo: You just don't get it do you?, I dont care how high end your speakers are, its recorded through piddly little microphones in a room that has than ideal acoustic properties, microphones that have zero chance of capturing low frequency detail, then recorded at a bit rate suitable for a kids hifi system, then dumb people comment on the quality of sound.

    • @SaintKimbo
      @SaintKimbo Před 6 lety +1

      You obviously don't have the necessary listening skills to determine the sonic differences that can be detected, despite the restrictions that you mention.
      I suggest that you take steps to develop your listening abilities beyond what you have now, then you may be surprised how much detail you will be able to detect.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety +2

      Saint Kimbo: Yes thats the usual response from hifi snobs, very little intelligence and an ego the size of a bus. I am guessing from the way you write you are in your 50's, so already I have an hearing frequency response better than you, just based on my age.

  • @mvsrpharma
    @mvsrpharma Před 4 lety

    Thanks

  • @rabokel
    @rabokel Před 3 lety

    The speakers are somewhat hesitant to become invisible :)

  • @morganghetti
    @morganghetti Před 5 lety +1

    So what am I to learn listening to a recording of a recording played through that system then through my system?

    • @coreyfellows9420
      @coreyfellows9420 Před 4 lety +1

      I KNOW RIGHT!!! I love the people saying how awsome the unit sounds (as I can only dream of its awsome ability) on a phone speaker smaller then a dime.

    • @utub1473
      @utub1473 Před 3 lety

      Right. You have to hear them in person, otherwise it's a little pointless. The main thing we can infer from this is that it must sound rather pleasant, but we can't pinpoint the extent to which this system can perform.

  • @jimchatwin8339
    @jimchatwin8339 Před 4 lety

    Wonder how these would stack up against a nice pair of Advents?

  • @davehwang6815
    @davehwang6815 Před 6 lety

    Godfather of hi end audio!

  • @dedskin1
    @dedskin1 Před 6 lety +1

    HE is most certainly moved by the sound :) if i listen to Classical music i would go and listen take some visual and atmosphere with it , nothing like live experience , aside from that , i hear ringing on bass . But its not bad , its maybe even desirable , i dont know , i listened music outside and inside , i dont know which one i like , for example if you used these outside , they would not be so good . Off course the fill the room with sound , outside that effect would be gone ,but inside you get ringing as well , so i dont know which is better

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 Před 5 lety

    Awesome 🤘

  • @purpasmart_4831
    @purpasmart_4831 Před 6 lety

    That bass at the end was crazy

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Was it?, better than a proper studio recording? LOL

  • @muckrubl
    @muckrubl Před 6 lety

    Bluemoon Audio Technology Ls3 Italian reference loudspeaker....better than Genesis One and Infinity Irs V ?

  • @carlgray3265
    @carlgray3265 Před 4 lety +1

    Some dance music would of been nice, but very cool system indeed

  • @MilGrip76
    @MilGrip76 Před 6 lety

    JA! Please! How can I get a copy of your files used here! Amazing recordings. I would really appreciate having these as references for personal use in my system set-ups, home and car audio. Thanks.

    • @Stereoeditor
      @Stereoeditor Před 6 lety +3

      The Cantus track is on a commercially released CD, though it's out of print. Amazon has some used for sale. The Water Night is still to be released, but you can download the organ recording from www.dropbox.com/s/wjjuj9keg0kvkow/Widor_mixdown.aif?dl=0

  • @uninvestigated
    @uninvestigated Před 5 lety +1

    I could hear the bass through my headphones in that last track. I was looking around and paused the video because i though a helicopter was outside haha!

  • @WilliamCooper2005
    @WilliamCooper2005 Před 5 lety

    I know that the CZcams processing changes the sound and I'm not getting the proper experience but with my grado sr225 headphones this does sound extremely good!

  • @soundman2604
    @soundman2604 Před 4 lety

    Very nice system, but I think there are a lot of sounds bouncing of the walls. In other words a much bigger room is needed to truly appreciate the whole set up. Thanks!

  • @JustinLoving
    @JustinLoving Před 6 lety +2

    No review thoughts? What was the point? Perhaps it’ll be a write up in the magazine?

  • @tlhuffman
    @tlhuffman Před 6 lety +88

    Well, let me pile on from a different perspective. I do not understand the value of CZcams videos of people listening to high-end audio. We are listening to this on a computer. It means NOTHING to the end listener. It would have been much more valuable to include short clips of what you listened to just to give us an idea of the type of music, but then spend the bulk of the video describing what YOU HEARD. What WE HEAR is not not useful at all.

    • @impalaburn77
      @impalaburn77 Před 6 lety +7

      Somebody here understands why you can't evaluate high end recordings on CZcams. I have heard the IRS 5's and it is a phenomenal system, but you have to be there.

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten Před 6 lety

      Tom Huffman it's a 4 dimensional sound stage, with warm tendinitis it's all bullshit that's all it boil downs too.
      They play mediocre music just not to let speakers fail. Lol

    • @edjackson4389
      @edjackson4389 Před 6 lety +15

      If you have a good computer setup, or great headphones with a headphone amp these listening videos can be more useful than you think. I agree that it seems impossible, and of course its not 100% like being there, but damn close in my comparisons of videos that I was actually there to hear when the recording was made.

    • @justadad2304
      @justadad2304 Před 6 lety +48

      Let me explain it to you: Nobody (in their right minds) thinks they are getting the actual experience. We watch these videos because those of us with the hearts and heads to care enjoy seeing the gear come alive. A few easy comparisons: People don't watch car videos because they think they get the experience of driving a Ferrari. They don't watch FoodNetwork because they get to smell or taste what's being cooked - let alone fill their bellies with a meal. Watching ESPN is not the same as playing on the field with pro athletes. Watching HGTV is not the same as remodeling a house - and nobody thinks it is.
      But there is a part of the experience there - and we enjoy it for what it is.
      Because we in audio get to reproduce at home a multimedia reproduction (of a reproduction, of a reproduction, of a reproduction...), we are actually closer to the authentic experience than with any of those other comparisons. That means, especially with a higher-quality recording like this one, it's tempting to think we are trying to reproduce the experience on our screens, but that leap shows we don't understand that first of all we are already living in a world of reproduction.
      We should not use these recordings to review products for ourselves. Just like reading a magazine review does not qualify us to have our own opinion on what is good. But we CAN use these experiences (CZcams videos, written reviews, even short-term experiences at the audio shows) to engage in the hobby more, take more pleasure in the technologies, and feel like we better understand our little corner of the world. And if it leads to a purchase and drives society through capitalism, great, and if it doesn't, we can still be happier, more thoughtful people for it.

    • @justinspenceley818
      @justinspenceley818 Před 6 lety +1

      I agree with Tom in regards to videos of systems worth a fortune being reduced to qualities of my phone speakers then being rendered a useless listening experience to compare but the point of this video which I think some of us are missing is the fact that the audio he is listening to is recorded using the microphones in his ears so in an attempt, at the very least to give some of us with headphones a more realistic experience of what he can hear. This is not 100 percent but it allows some form of comparison. I appreciate the effort he has gone to in the video.

  • @salvadorrodenas3071
    @salvadorrodenas3071 Před 6 lety +6

    The Ikea chairs are very comfortable and cheap.

  • @cardiod
    @cardiod Před 6 lety

    WEAR HEADPHONES PEOPLE! Loved the first track. The system seemed to render the first two tracks well but the low pipe organ power notes didn't sound right (either the woofers, the mics or my headphones are distorting). Thank you for the video!

    • @Stereoeditor
      @Stereoeditor Před 6 lety +1

      I am afraid it's your headphones :-(

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Stereoeditor: Is it?, or is it room modes?, microphone quality?, ambient noise?, who are all these idiots thinking they can review speakers based on CZcams recordings.

    • @sandyshoremann7524
      @sandyshoremann7524 Před 4 lety

      @@Stereoeditor Mine too distorted as I reported above. And I played a sine sweep at 6 DB louder and no distortion. File corrupted? - Cheers! Sandy

  • @theoracle2877
    @theoracle2877 Před 4 lety

    Does anyone live in those tower blocks ?

  • @josetorres5566
    @josetorres5566 Před 4 lety

    is there possible to archive that sound in a car audio high end audiophile. Pls comment and like

  • @mtabernig
    @mtabernig Před 6 lety

    wish somehow that I would be able to really hear how it sounds remotely.

  • @vladimirjovanovic2803
    @vladimirjovanovic2803 Před 3 lety

    Maybe it's been already asked, but where could I purchase the Cantus recording? I couldn't find it on Tidal...

  • @alastairchestnutt6416
    @alastairchestnutt6416 Před 6 lety

    Listened to this on stax electrostatic headphones and old koss esp6 headphones via my ipad and a cheap Cambridge Audio amp. Vidor’s toccata bass awesome with the Koss esp 6 headphones.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      LOL, oooh impressive, does that get you lots of girls?, or can they see thru your thin veneer of bullshit?

    • @edthefirst2859
      @edthefirst2859 Před 4 lety

      Suzy Siviter as opposed to your thick layer of bullshít?

  • @robertpincus6528
    @robertpincus6528 Před 6 lety

    I've never liked the sound of foil flapping in the wind. However, with weird mid-hall recordings (the kind we suffer with at high end shows) this might be just the right speaker. Atkinson hasn't mentioned a good recording in any of his reviews for many years.

  • @raffiequler7510
    @raffiequler7510 Před 6 lety +12

    I would like to put 2 more woofer towers behind the seats. There is simply not enough bass coming from my 10-dollar computer speakers.

    • @sbrazenor2
      @sbrazenor2 Před 5 lety

      I have a Klipsch set of computer speakers with a dedicated woofer. I highly recommend them. They're not $10, but they sound awesome. Shop around for some sales and check thrift stores. (Sometimes they turn up.)

  • @eabr2881
    @eabr2881 Před 6 lety

    Just wondering why the dust covers have been removed from the centre woofers. Is it to change the resonant frequency on these or for the entire cabinet? I don't know if the individual drivers are in sealed chambers.

    • @ronshaw80
      @ronshaw80 Před 6 lety

      Paul mentioned in a previous video that they needed to repair the servo sensors on those woofers.

  • @coldfinger459sub0
    @coldfinger459sub0 Před 6 lety +8

    Even through those little microphones compressed through CZcams while I was driving in my car transferred to me through cell phone towers to press back into nothing more than my iPhone S6 plus with it’s awful DAC listening through my sennHeiser 550 Bluetooth wireless headphones. I can feel the depth of the voices as if I was in your chair with the stage street in front of me I can feel the reverb off the walls in the sound bouncing around on the wooden chairs and that Oregon my SennHeiser headphones were struggling so hard to attempt to reproduce those low frequencies that if I was there I could feel in my chest and get the slight distortion of my retinas blurry vision. Over the Internet and through computers in poor sound systems it’s impossible to reproduce such sounds. But with my experience what I just experienced I can imagine what it feels like sitting in your seat in front of those speakers I’m embarrassed to say it brought a tear to My eyes. When I visit Colorado I must sit down in that room and listen to that system once before I die. Can you please release a noncompressed recording or Flac file or something of that nature so we can download it into our own systems and listen to it as a reference. By the way through your recording of your equipment I was still able to hear the noise floor of the electronics. Well driving in my car in the base of the Oregon actually felt like my engine was misfiring and rumbling made me do a double take to check my car.

    • @coldfinger459sub0
      @coldfinger459sub0 Před 6 lety

      And update after listening through my home system last night that recording sounded God awful I couldn’t even listen to it I skipped around and had to shut it off listening through speakers in a room comparing it to headphones. It just shows you what you’re listening through makes a drastically huge difference in what the end sound will be experienced. And listening to that same recording through speakers out of an iPhone sounded like A.m. broadcast through a battery operated radio inside a tin lunchbox.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      No you cant hear their 'quality' it wont sound any where as good as playing the original sound track directly.

    • @suzesiviter6083
      @suzesiviter6083 Před 6 lety

      Are you serious, perhaps you should buy music recorded through a crappy microphone in future tard, those headphones are wasted on you.