@@BlueSparxLPs Wasn’t it because she wanted to have a girl? I'm not saying Ron was not loved, but he was kinda neglected whereas Ginny was pampered... That's not a sign of healthy parenting.
There were a few things regarding Mrs Weasley’s parenting that went over my head as a kid but I really appreciate now that I’m rereading as an adult: -at King’s Cross, when she found out that the young boy who had asked for directions was the famous Harry Potter, she immediately told her kids not to gawk at him. She realized he must feel overwhelmed and just wants to be treated like a normal kid, not like a celebrity or a museum piece -even though we had spent a dozen chapters getting to know Harry, Mrs Weasley barely met him, and yet she didn’t hesitate to send him a hand knit sweater and snacks when Ron told her that Harry wasn’t expecting to get anything for Christmas -the “not my daughter you b****” scene I just assumed was rage at her daughter nearly getting killed, but now I realize it was more than that. Her brothers died in the first war. Her eldest son was permanently disfigured just a year ago. One twin son lost an ear and the other died. Her adopted son was (as far as she knew) dead. Now the killing curse missed her one and only daughter by a hair. No WONDER she was angry
Oh yeah anger isn't understatement.. Her mama bear Power was unleashed to its Zenith. It's something that takes you beyond any limits that you've perceived before. It overrides your own Survival limits. To put everything you can possibly have into destroying the threat, I would also add that not only was that her only daughter. That was her youngest and final child. Ginny is the baby of the family. Although loving a holy children equally, There is a special connection with That being Her only girl. After a parade of boys. The special connection that they can only have together as mother and daughter. The most recent life that she had growing inside her. When we give birth hormones are released that then later on make the memories of giving birth a bit fuzzy. As time passes and with more kids the experiences of the earlier ones often become more faded. Excepting possibly the first birth. As that was the starting point. I hope what I explained made sense. Kind of difficult to put words to it.
I cried so much when I read that part like Mrs Weasley is so strong and she has this motherly and soft vibe all the time and just in that ONE moment she let's out all her rage and fear and sadness, everything she ever held back, her worry, every time she ever had to be strong for the kids, ugh!!! Tears!!!
Honestly my biggest issue with Molly was when she believed the slander Rita Skeeter wrote about Hermione and then starts to treat Hermione different until Harry calles Molly out. I often use this example to illustrate the problem with echo chambers or consuming baised media. Molly knows that Rita Skeeter sensationalizes and out right lies in her writings and yet when she reads what Rita wrote about Harry and Hermione she believes it because it feeds into this tragic, sensitive hero image of Harry that she wants to believe. "He still cries about his parents, bless him". And so she believes the lies about Hermione and starts acting coldly to her, sending her smaller treats than anyone else. It makes Molly very flawed and and real but still i am annoyed with her for falling for it .
This was ao horrible. Ron says that Molly does believe hermione to be a " bad woman" from what skeeter says. Hermione was 14. 14. Echo chamber or not is just disgusting for an adult to think those things of a 14 year old. Skeeter ( and molly in believing it and treating hermione like that) was pretty much slutshaming a child. and is worse because Molly knew Hermione, Hermione had spent part of the holidays under her roof. Ginny was only one year younger than Hermione too. And yet Molly was quick to see Hermione, a litteral child that she knew personally, as a goldigger and a "bad woman" because of an article. And here is the thing, she would have never believed those things about harry.
That was indeed horrible, and I am not going to defend that. I do want to add a bit of context, in that I think it is not completely unbelievable for her to act this way. She is a very protective mother sending her children off for most of the year and relying on letters from her own children to know what is going on (and pobably not receiving nearly as many as she would like). She has basically adopted Harry as her own because she feels he does not have anyone else, and she had offered that Harry could come live with them. While she very much liked Hermione, she presumably mostly saw her as one of Ron/Harry's friends. She was an impressionable (case in point: Gilderoy Lockhart) stay-at-home mother whose nerves were already maximised because of Harry's participation in the tournament, for whom it would not be far-fetched to consume any bit of news she could find to stay informed. And many people seem to have believed Rita Skeeter for some time, so she was far from alone. The way she chose to act on that perspective, though, that was indeed rather vile. An adult should have known better so, again, not defending that at all.
The only way I ever saw this reaction was that she was still hoping Harry would fall in love with Ginny, since she knew how much her daughter loved him. So she believed that Hermione would break that possibility if she simply got together with Harry.
I'm one of 6 kids with mostly brothers, so I vibe a lot with the Wealsleys. We haven't had a Percy situation yet, but Molly really is a lot like my mom. She did the best she could with what she had. I feel like Molly was written really realistically, with all the complexities and faults of a real human mother, but also she can do magic.
Joanne and her writing have a lot (and I mean a LOT) of flaws, but I feel like Molly Weasley was written well. I thought she was basically universally loved until now
@@spongecakes1986honestly as bad as some aspects are, I think character writing is one of her strengths. Even when some characters seem to be great *despite* her (Ginny comes to mind, since it seems she basically coalesced from traits she slowly added as she needed for the plot). Molly I feel is one of the best example of a character that does have flaws but they are very realistic ones
Im one of 6 kids (also one of the youngest) and understand that molly tried her best but there is only so much you can do to support each and every kid equally. She was an amazing mom who figured out how to balance the needs of each kid. Unfortunately since there is only so much she can do this leads to one of the kids feeling overlooked and uncared for even though she is just trying her best. She also managed to keep incredibly upbeat considering the amount of stress she must've had trying to care for each child.
@@OscarGomez-hg8cbsee I don’t feel that way about Ginny. I think it was the way she developed in the book. I think she was shy around Harry in the beginning and then as she pulled away from him as a crush she was able to express herself more and show her confidence and humor. I feel like the problem is how she was portrayed in the films which was terrible.
Well you likely aren't an emotionally abusive family, so it's no surprise that no one wants out like Percy did. Come prove that anyone BUT Molly even liked Percy in the first 4 books. If they're such a loving family it should be easy to prove in comparison to everything that proves that at best they are indifferent about him once you actually think about their actions and words directed at/about Percy. Maybe you can start with asking yourself this "Would I want to be mailed shit where I work".
I need to know if the peacocks in the yard is a british thing or a wizard thing....can any brits out there confirm whether rich people keep peacocks?? 😂
@@magicbymikaila Not British, but according to google (I got curious, and who am I to deny the research?) royals/wealthy people in Britain DID keep peacocks as symbols of their wealth and status 🤷♀😅
I have never heard this POV before. I always thought she just treated Harry like an adopted son, and treated her own kids like her own kids. i.e. they were all loved as individuals.
I’ve always hated Molly slander. As someone who grew up with an abusive parent, I was ferally jealous of the Weasley kids. Any part taking place at the burrow with Molly and Arthur was like chicken soup for the soul. Chamber of Secrets was my comfort book because I found the loving domesticity of the Weasleys just as enchanting as Harry does. The part where the Weasley kids steal Harry from the Dursleys and whisk him away to the safety of the burrow was my fantasy as a kid. The internet thinks mothers are never allowed to be sassy, sarcastic, or scared, which is what Molly was usually doing during the scenes of her supposedly being a bad mother. Sure, there were scenes where her behavior wasn’t great, but in the context of her life it’s understandable. In a war not very long ago she lost family and friends. She’s scared for her children. And usually for good reason (stealing flying cars, dropping out of school, etc) Not all parents are perfect at expressing their emotions, but it doesn’t make them bad parents. Mothers are still human. If being a good parent means never making mistakes then there are no good parents irl. And let’s be real. If any of the Weasley kids heard you calling Molly a bad mom they’d hex you.
The only time I actually had real irritation with Molly was when she was being irrationally mean to Hermione (Book 4 Rita Skeeter subplot) and Fleur (Molly writing Fleur off as vain and not serious about Bill). But even then she apologized and made amends.
To be fair neglecting a child is also abuse. You don’t have to be hit. Emotional starvation is a thing. Having 7 children is extremely selfish, so the least you should do is treat everyone equally. If you can’t do that, don’t have 7 children… Also treating 14 year old Hermione coldly because you think she is a „gold digger“ …. not her greatest hour.
@@ducklingscap897Oh ffs, she didn’t “emotionally starve” any of her children lmfao. Please don’t join the massive trend of minimizing what actual abuse is by using misleading examples influenced by privilege or unaddressed trauma. Claiming Molly “emotionally* starved” her children is as ridiculous & dramatic as calling a 40yo man dating a 27yo woman a p+do or claiming an older sibling doing standard chores and/or watching their younger one a couple hours a week is parentification or believing calling your baby a boy or girl is somehow tr•nsphobic. Ugh. I’m sick of people throwing around serious words so lightly. *edit- Slide keyboard ended up with “entirely” instead of “emotionally”, so I fixed it.
@@j_g9109I agree with that last part especially. People don’t seems to realize that if you use serious words on trivial things then that starts to make people perceive the real thing as trivial. My example is ADHD no it’s not “I can’t focus on school” try never focus on what you want to almost ever and that includes relationships unless you feel inspired to hyper fixate in which case you will put that first and foremost or be miserably bored and that includes putting before eating and sleeping and this is just one aspect of the real deal. But nooooo completely normal behaviors for young boys is just adhd nowadays. Long story short use serious words on serious things not trivial matters like the guy said.
I felt jealous of the Weasley Kids too. My parents were not abusive I jsut had a difficult relationship with my mom because she was a perfectionist and i have always been chaotic and messy.
Molly arguably loved her children a little too much that she wanted them taking the "respectable" or "safe" paths in life to ensure that all of them would be well off and not having to go through what the family at large did - didn't like the twins taking a risk on the shop without a "decent" path. This was obviously not the best, but to twist that into "Molly is a bad mom" is a mean-spirited take. Molly will be a much-visited, well-remembered mother.
And the twins seemed to sense that her frustrations came from a place of fear for them, because while they rolled their eyes, they didn't seem to let it bother or stop them - and the first thing they did when the shop started turning a profit was to show their mom that they were okay. Some parents have a hard time letting their children go, especially when the path looks dangerous
Also I think most of this audience and most of the people she hears this from are Americans but the book is written from a Brit and for a British audience initially. I have a guy I watch that is a young British guy named Lewis. He is very funny but he has mentioned many times that the whole ‘American Dream’ thing is very much an American thing. He said people in Britain don’t usually encourage others to take risks. They tend to stay in their own path more. They don’t branch out. Obviously this is one guys opinion but he would know more than me as an American if this is the case she may have been afraid for them to take the scary option and wanted them to do something ‘safe’ like work for the ministry.
She was also worried that their joke shop inventions were dangerous (they were), they promoted school misbehaviour (they did), they were doing illegal things to get it off the ground (they were) and they got the money for it illegally (they didn't, but she had no way of knowing that). Her reservations were not unreasonable. I feel like if Fred and George started out with the idea of pitching shield hats to the Aurors Mrs Weasley would not have been so reluctant. Also, part of the reason we as an audience have an affinity with Fred & Georges joke shop was that Umbridge controlled the school when it got off the ground. If students were using these items in the same way at any other time, it would not garner as much sympathy.
@@IamGrimalkin I agree with most of this. I am not sure they were doing illegal things to get it off the ground but they were breaking school rules, particularly when Umbridge was around.
That reminds me of what I had to do so my mom could read the books. Her hands were too arthritic to hold the large books so I had to cut them up into smaller sections. She went on her next great adventure 6 years ago. After I got into Harry Potter, I shared it with her.
Do i think Molly was a bad mother? no. Do i agree with all of her desicions? HARD no. I reread the books last year an was suprised by how much less i liked her for her choices, specifically around preparing the kids for the coming war, and sabataging the other adults attempts to inform or train them (seen as early as book 3 where Mr. Weasley has to go behind hher back to tell Harry that there's a presumed serial killer after him. Kinda important information). But it makes her A REALISTIC PERSON who doesn't want her kids to be in danger and is trying to protect them. Even if her way of protection is kinda infantilizing and ignoring the fact that trouble comes to Harry whether he looks for it or not, and he needs to be ready. TLDR: haters have some points? yes. Is thier conclusion right??? NO. No one in this story made 100% good choices, thats what makes them good characters.
I'd tend to agree with you. However, were I Harry in the last book, when Molly was actively keeping the trio from being able to plan their Horcrux hunt, I'd have blown up and asked her who's side she was on - his or Voldemort's.
The watch thing is interesting because Molly went about it the way that was most meaningful to each of them. Ron is frustrated with all of the second hand things that are all that’s available to him but has plenty of family and reminders of family whereas Harry has money where he he’s able to buy new things for himself and doesn’t mind second hand items. For Harry he’s getting an heirloom as another sign of being part of the family and Ron gets a new watch as a sign of importance and being valued.
From what I've seen there are people in the fandom who ships harry and voldemort(🤢🤮), think dumbledore is the actual evil mastermind, believe ron was abusive to hermione etc..molly being a bad mother is just another one of these. In a fandom as big as this you're bound to find all sorts of weirdos..but no point in letting them ruin our enjoyment of the books.
There's certainly a lot of criticism you can give Dumbledore, but "evil mastermind" is just not it. He did questionable things with ultimately the right intentions.
SHIP HARRY WITH THE MURDERER OF HIS PARENTS?! Yeah, this is one of the many reasons I don't get into shipping. Some people truly are freaks about it. Ship Harry and Voldermort is too revolting. What disturbed minds could conceive of such a thing?
@@spongecakes1986 that's the point..the entirety of deathly hallows showed how dumbledore was just another fallible human being who tried to do the best with what he had..and harry loves him despite those mistakes. But a lot of these wackos seem to have missed that memo..
My one beef with Mrs. Weasley is the way she treated Sirius when he was going through a mental health crisis. But I do think she was a good mother who cared about her children and she was always very sweet to Harry.
@@BinBinB4 Very valid point. She probably wasn't properly equipped to identify the signs of Sirius's mental health issues, let alone support him if she had. I just always thought he could have used a little more kindness from any one of the adults in Book 5, Molly included.
Even if she’s right that Sirius sees Harry more like James rather than a child, her line taunting him about not being there for Harry because he was locked up is truly awful. The man was sent to Azkaban for something he didn’t do, he was innocent and suffered trauma for 13 years and you’re going to mock him for not being there for Harry? I intensely disliked her in that moment. And just generally I tend to dislike characters that are controlling and domineering.
@@goldenmelody722Harry was the only one who seemed to openly sympathize or understand what Sirius had been through. And Ron to a degree. Hermione and Molly were quite insensitive towards him.
@@janhavi1977Yeah, and the problem was that the fandom seemed to believe her. Sirius was one of the few adults who actually tried to get to know Harry as a person, and communicated with him.
My only beef with Molly is how she treated Hermione in the 4th book and falling for clearly untrue gossip but that’s mainly because she was written by someone who is not a girls girl and it shows lol
It shows so much, look at how ahe , ginny and hermione treated Fleur too. Or how Hermione treated lavender and parvati for being into girly stuff and basically being the typical horoscope teen girls with how they liked divination.
Well it was established in the book that she was the only Weasley who read Rita skeeter, against her own best judgement. Plus maybe she had started to see Ron developing feelings for Hermione and felt defensive..
@@smartacious If it was because of Ron, she wouldn't have changed her attitude toward Hermonie when Harry said that article was a pack of lies. I don't think this makes her a bad mom or person, just more realistic. These are characters and they need faults to be more 3D.
yes she was amazing!! she's @accioartwitches on instagram and makes amazing fan-made harry potter merch if anyone wants to check out her out! (I bought that niffler treats bottle I'm holding in my newt cosplay from her shop!)
Peoples standards for mothers in fiction (and irl too) are insane sometimes lol. They're literally human beings, and therefore obviously flawed. Obviously there are extremes and abusive mothers but people have always been much quicker to point fingers.
So we just have to love and support the flaws? No it’s still ok to point out that having 7 children when you can barely afford two financially isn’t a good decision or that blatantly favoring one child over the others isn’t good parenting.
I’m not really that much in the hp fandom anymore and more in the Riordan verse. But honestly how can they say Molly is a *bad mother* when she cares for all her children and try’s to make them the most stable life possible?
Because some insecure persons feels like if you're not 100% behind your children, even when they make dumb decisions (and risking all your savings to open a store when you're just fresh out of school is a dumb decision ^^), then you're a bad parent, apparently.
I mean, she did have more kids than she could properly afford because she wanted a girl. And she did buy ron a horrible second hand formal tunic for the yule ball while buying ginny( who could not even go if she was not invited by an older student) a newer dress. She also treated 14 yo hermione horribly because despite knowing hermione personally, she chose to believe rita skeeter'a article and thought hermione was a " bad woman" ans " gold digger" ( again, she believed this about a 14 year old child). And she was awful to fleur too.
having 7 children when you can’t really afford them is really selfish. And if you don’t even treat your children equally it is a shitty thing to do. Ron was obviously not treated nearly as good as Ginny.
"Omg, there's a bug! *fearful noises*" I have never related to you more. Thank you for the video! I never knew Molly haters existed, to be honest. I always liked Molly when I read the books as a child, and as an adult I appreciate her even more. The way she included Harry in the family (sending him the same knitted sweaters she sent her children, welcoming him into their home in the summer etc) warms my heart.
You'd better believe I did a spit take when I saw The title of this video and came in like the Kool-Aid Man with my fists up screaming "WHO TF SAID THAT???"
How can there not be a way for me to thumbs up this comment a thousand times? I need to express my joy properly and that requires many thumbs ups given...
Are these the same “fans” who say Ginny and James drugged Harry and Lilly in order to “steal them away from their real loves” with there being no evidence in any material to support it. Are these the same “fans” that say Ron isn’t good enough for Hermione and she belongs with Harry or Draco one of which views her as sister the other viewing her as sub-human.
It still makes me mad that people ship Hermione with a bastard who's been abusing her and wishing she was dead for years just because she was a Muggleborn. As for Harry, he's never been interested in her and she's never been interested in him. Like people really have water in their brains, don't they?
@@PhebusdesTours I don't ship Hermione and Draco, but once I read a fiction about these toi meeting 12 years after the battle. That was a very understandable because it happened a long time after ( and drago was a stupid person during his school time ) he changes a bit at the end of the movie, so that story was quite good. I don't ship them but I think Draco changed a little in the 7years.
The Ginny "theory" comes from the movies, and not from the books. As in the movies they have no chemistry except a one-sided crush, until all of a sudden Harry is just as interested in her as she is in him. One seen where she is good at quidditch isn't going to do it for most of the movie watchers. So I can see where that theory comes from. But if you read the books that theory just sounds insane as Ginny is a way better written character and Harry grows more and more attached to her. So I don't really think it's a crazy theory, but it's miss informed, and doesn't make much sense if you read the books. The Hermione and Draco ship also has most of it's basis in behind the scenes material and very little from the books or even movies
Listen i do not ship snily, in fact i think their relationship never having anything romantic to it makes more sense. Including from his part, she was his only real friend and the only person who truly showed him care, and that is bigger than romantic love. But, it is weird that lily, who also hates james, who had spent years rejectin him and was so done with his constant harrassment, suddenly changed her mind over a few months and started dating him in sixth year. Not saying there was a love potion involved , mostly just bad writting. But in any case maybe because lily was sad and disappointed at snape, shehad just lost a childhood friend too, and worse he called her a racist slur after he was the first one to tell her being muggle born didn't matter, so imagine how hurt she must have been. James probably used the opportunity to be the shoulder to cry on and took advantage that she was vulnerable to talk her into a date. Because he showed he could be that type of person when she asked him to leave snape alone and james said he would if she went on a date with him. He would not do something directly ilegal as a love potion, but taking advantage of lily going through emotional turmoil over snape calling her a slur and their friendship being definitely broken after she tried to save it for months? I do see james capable of that, he would not even think he was doing something wrong, because we see he doesn't see not accepting her rejection and insisting as bad. Now if that evemtually led to a happy relationship and he did eventually matured and behaved better, that's good. But the start of the relationship sounds weird because of the timing and how by what sirius and lupin said james had not changed yet when he and lily started dating, he just did the bullying behind her back. So it's not crazy to suspect a bit of foul play on his part at the start of them dating.
@@nicolasripoll7974yeah, i can see this " decades after reunion" fanfics with draco and hermione because they are basically an AU. And because people do change over the years and after a decade you would not be the same person. So those aren't so bad and at least they tend to be well constructed because hermione doesn't have to change draco or he change for her. He is already changed when they meet again and that's why they develope feelings, because he is a different and better person for himself.
I never thought the Weasleys were POOR, exactly... just that they had a lot of kids in quick succession. In my head canon, Bill and Charlie sent their parents some part of their pay to help out once they left home. Percy was cringe but totally understandable: why are we always wearing mended hand-me-downs, why does everything we own seem worn out and overused (Why does Ron have a hand-me-down wand?? That's not how they work best! Give Ron a decent chance, ffs!)? If only Dad would make an effort to climb the ladder at the Ministry, we could be rolling in Galleons! (Kids always think Mum and Dad have all the money, and they don't know what anything costs or how to budget for a large family.) I would have thought Molly's histrionics were stressful, but she's not malicious, just over the top. "Where HAVE you been?" It's a good question!
The Wizarding community is far less stratified than our real world societies. The fact that Arthur and Lucia's even interact with each other on a first name basis tells us a lot. Their kids get the exact same quality education. The Weasleys were cash poor, but there prospects were really not so grim. All the Weasley kids ended up with excellent careers.
"I never thought the Weasleys were POOR, exactly.." Then you've never read the books ^^' The Weasleys ARE poor. They live in a society where magic can solve a lot of things, so poverty isn't that bad (plus they seem to grow their own food themselves ^^), but they're clearly one of the poorest wizarding family.
@@krankarvolund7771 Relativistic poor. Not absolute poor. Its an economics concept(most of which break down in the HP world due to the basis of all economics being scarcity and magic fixing all that)
I think also with Percy, Arthur has a position in misuse of muggle artefacts but keeps getting fines and making their financial situation worse. So they have to pay the fine and Arthur’s likelihood of promotion is lesser. If Arthur followed the rules he’s supposed to enforce then they’d be better off (from Percy’s view, as I read it) so then Percy goes all the way rule following and brownnoses to pull himself out of that situation as quickly as possible.
Having 7 children living in poverty when you could have two living a life without money troubles is not awesome. Also blatantly favoring the girl you always wanted to have at the disadvantage of the boys before that is just shit. Buying Ron shitty second hand robes for the Yule ball and then getting Ginny a nice new dress while Ginny wasn’t even able to go to the ball without specifically being invited by an older student is shit. Treating Hermione coldly because you believe a gossip rag that a 14 year old is a slutty gold digger and only using harry is also shit. They way she treated Fleur wasn’t exactly awesome either. Like she isn’t a horrible person but there is definitely a lot of potential to be a better person.
@@ducklingscap897 so im guessing you are perfect. Most of us humans arent. She loved her family and did a lot for them. That is 10x more than many parents.
@@ducklingscap897 Ginny didn't get a dress in the book. In the books girls and boys alike have dress robes and her's is never discriped so we dont know how old or new it is. She may have woren her mother's old dress robes since she is the only girl. Ron's robe was maybe from some one else in the family. Also they are not poor they are lower middle class if you ask me. Even people of average middle class can struggle finacially from time to time esepcially if they have kids.
To be fair there is a trend of interpreting books as "good character actually bad, bad character actually good, you're just too blinded to see this". Just read/watch most of the modern interpretations of the classics, like for example compare the Wicked Witch of the West in Wicked and in the original story. Or all Villain films of recent years. Most of Molly hate is just trying to be edgy, or fit in with modern standards. That's why there aren't that many Molly bashing fanfiction on Ao3. Especially compared to the average fanfiction that mostly follows her original characterization. Or why the couple of articles going full on "Molly is abusive" are mocked by huge part of the fandom.
You mean... Molly wasn't doing everything for Harry so he would marry Ginny (who is a nympho) just to seal Harry's money? Ron wasn't only pretending to be Harry's friend to push him to Ginny (and ride on Harry's coattails)? Molly wasn't using Love Potions to keep her hubby in line, to have Harry marry Ginny, and Hermione marry Ron? And Ron isn't going to end up being a Death Eater? Next you'll be telling me that Dumbledore isn't 'evil' and doing everything 'for the greater good'. --- I feel so lied to by the fandom...
These things are sometimes fun reading but they annoy me most, I mean it is easy to understand why. With Dumbledore planning Harrys whole life out, Molly loudly saying _full of muggles_ (which I personally decided to believe was her trying to catch any Muggleborn... but I also believe that Hagrid just forgot telling Harry how to get to 9¾ so it's impossible to say what her reason was)... Though there is no denying that Ginny was pretty obsessed with Harry and that Molly didn't do anything against it. Thank Tom that she stopped with her behaviour after the second book... and then started to have a bunch of boyfriends to try making Harry jealous. ...damn now I want to read the books again 😂
Molly is one of the most bashed characters in fan fiction :( Not as much as Ron/Dumbledore/Snape bashing. But still pretty close. I try to stay away from those fics, but usually they make her out to be money hungry and trying to dose Harry with love potions for Ginny. Really unfortunate.
Well my gf hates her for reasons other than fanfics. I don't get it either, but some people just don't like particular characters. Also my gf is kinda weird, because once i read a book in which character was just like her, the book was about magic, pirates and dragons, so all the things my gf loves, yet she didn't like a book and even more the character. So i guess people can surprise us with the things they like and hate
@@RobustPhysicsok ok ok wait-what does “bashed” mean? Also isn’t it fake that Molly or Ginny gave Harry a love potion so Harry could fall for Ginny? Or did I miss smt in the books or series-
@@Angel_6791 Bashing, or character bashing, is when people make fan works (usually fan fiction) in which they display a lot of hostility against a character. Basically, it is the author expressing their hate for a character by making a lot of bad things happen to them. Often times they will be portrayed extremely negatively, if not outright demonized with no redeeming quality. Sometimes they exaggerate canon flaws, but often times they will make up stuff to make the characters even worse. So no, there is no canon reason to believe Molly (or Ginny) ever tried to use love potions on Harry. Molly has no interest in Harry's money. But when an author is bashing a character, they will make up fake reasons to hate the character even more. Usually as a way to justify making them suffer. Typically just public humiliation, but some stories will go as far as sending them to Azkaban or even killing/torturing them. I try to stay away from those types of stories, even for characters I don't care for. The only type of character bashing I can tolerate is Umbridge bashing. But even then I have a limit.
Molly’s an amazing mother, and she has some real flaws like when she believes Rita Skeeter’s mean spirited gossip about Hermione, and when she spent a whole year trying to break up Fleur and Bill. Both are a result of overprotectiveness (and perhaps a bit of internalized misogyny). But that’s hardly going to make her deserving of a “bad mother” label and also I would like to burn every Weasley bashing fic with fire
I feel you on the state of that book though. When I was reading my parents’ copy of the Goblet of Fire in middle school, it literally broke in half and the librarian had to keep it overnight in order to put a plastic cover on it and fix it.
What is the problem with fanfic writers? They always write her being manipulative and trying to marry off Ginny the harlot to HP for his money. Who started that horrible fanfic trope
Because a lot of them probably have mommy issuest its pretty common because a lot of moms are manipulative and compete with their own daughters and always put them down being hyper critical. A lot of fanfic writers are young adult women or teen girls..those would be the prime ages were the mistreatment by their mother's would really be at full force. My own mother started really treating me terribly when I started puberty. I'd say people with these expireances either lash out on mother characters and make them evil to project their own moms or they make them their ideal mother figure to try and heal their inner child.
It one of my guilty pleasure. Though I would prefer the Weasley to be sidelined or ignored in fanfiction, they already received a lot of airtime in cannon. I don't hate Molly but don't like her either. It's not like they HAVE NO CHOICE but to have 7 children that they can't afford, so irresponsible. And the overly praising just rub people in the wrong way.
I've never seen Molly be a bad mom though? What because she yells at her kids when they f around? So what? More parents should be like her When the Horcrux spoke about Ron being the least loved, that wasn't the truth it was his own insecurities being thrown back at him to make him angry and therefore easier to corrupt Yes Molly loves Ginny, but she also loves her other sons and their vastly different personalities Bill- dashing curse breaker Charlie- the muscle that works with dragons Percy- consummate perfectionist aiming to be better that his circumstances Fred and George: The trouble makers Ron: one of the few who gives her grief unless he's with the twins Ginny: her only daughter who felt overshadowed by all of them because she's the only girl And so what if she kept trying for a girl, did she stop the others from living their lives? One breaks curses the other raises dragons, hardly the helicopter mother I can see how he was jealous of Harry especially since Molly immediately began doting on him, but that was because she could see the neglect on his face, And the fame thing wasn't even up to Harry and made it uncomfortable more times than it made him happy But going back to Molly she was not a bad mom, she was the best version of "doing her damn best" with what she had
I mean, if anything, Molly main flaw as a mother is to be too loving and overbearing XD Like, her children all did things to get far from her when they became adults, Charlie lives in Romania, Bill in Egypt, Percy breaks up with the entire family for two years (mostly because of Arthur though ^^), Fred and George breaka way from Hogwarts and go live on Diagon Alley, Weasley kids have to gain their independance through conflict it seems ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 well yeah but not really from anything she did specifically. She wanted the best for them and they went for it. A curse breaker and a dragon tamer Two very dangerous but prestigious jobs, Fred and George, opened their own shop and had it thrive Percy was the only one who seemed ungrateful, again not based on anything she did. If she was so overbearing they wouldn't even go to see her at holidays or gatherings, respond to her invitations at all, plus they only had one house, of course they left to other places, otherwise it would be Bill, Charlie, Percy, Fred and George, Ron and Ginny Mr and Mrs Weasley in one house, again not a sign she chased them out by being overbearing they could just be good kids, raised well and left to have their own lives so as not to place the responsibility of so many people on their mom
@@angelicafigueroa0221 "If she was so overbearing they wouldn't even go to see her at holidays or gatherings, respond to her invitations at all" That's the thing with overbearing things, once they're not in your life everyday, they become much more bearable. And once they grew up, they also realized it was pure love and that they missed it ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 yuh huh, but again there's no indication she was overbearing. Like at all. She was a present mother. Name one thing that was overbearing
She destroyed her sons’ business, already up and running and had them watch her destroy the orders forms… that’s a bad mother. I get that it’s hard to dream when you’re poor, but they weren’t doing anything wrong. Fred and George had a business, one that they already had going and she ripped it to shreds, in front of them!
I always saw the "thats everyone in the family now" as in everyone who *wanted* to be a prefect became one, all in the family, since Fred and Gorge very much never aspired it.
This feels a bit like a Snape's worst memory thing where people get a little enthusiastic with the read or take things an unreliable narrator says too seriously because of the whole fandom hot take culture that HP was one of the first major cross-media examples of. Twitter retcons aside Rowling isn't subtle about who's evil in her world, even in the later novels, because the Dahl-esque dry absurdity it runs on doesn't really leave much room for it.
Yeah, we should stop blaming people for things that are out of their control. That is why I would not like my kids to be on school and instead teaching at home because school would traumatize them and then would be ME to blame and have to pick up the pieces.
These criticisms would make sense to come from like, idk, people who have watched a few/all the films once (barely paying attention), or never lived with/met a large, poor family. A complete lack of understanding the subtext and just the general message of parts of the story or even normal human behaviour.
I think the main issue people have with it is that the weasleys aren't really a "poor" family. Many in the fandom believe that their poverty is entirely both Mr and Mrs Weasleys own fault as they kept trying for a girl, when if they had just stuck to having 1 or 2 children, those children would have grown up relatively comfortably. And when they ended up having more children Mr Weasley didn't have the ambition to get a better paying job to be able better support his family.
@@magicblaze1553 Being "poor" isn't dependent on WHY you have no money, it's that you have no money. In the wizarding world there seems to be plenty that you can do with magic, especially household chores so if you're skilled enough, with a job I think you could make it fine just like they do. You'd still be poor though. Honestly I thought that the Weasley's being poor because of their father was at times implied, and at other times explicitly stated, at least as an opinion from specific members of the family
@magicblaze1553 I mean yeah but also I was poor growing up and we didn't wear shabby clothes. Secondhand stores are full of really nice, decent clothes. Same with secondhand booksellers. Also what was she doing with all her time once Ginny went to school? Their priorities were crazy- a trip to Egypt, an owl for Percy, but Ron had a secondhand wand? And those ugly dress robes? Like cmon. School is usually expensive but once they went to school they had an enormous burden lifted off them with food prices. Also like I've bought my siblings textbooks. When I was in college, my aunt bought me textbooks on occasion as well. That's where I got the idea. Bill and Charlie, at least, then Fred and George could have chipped in a little
Why is it normal that you buy your son shitty second hand robes for a ball but your daughter who can’t even go to a ball unless specifically invited gets a nice new dress? If that’s normal behavior to you then I‘d say you need to reflect on it
@@ducklingscap897 It's just kind of expected socially that a girl going to a fancy event must have a new dress to show up in. Don't ask me why, I'm not a girl. For an equivalent though, guys are almost expected to show up to prom in their own car, no idea why and it's a weird tradition but it's still expected, at least in higher income areas
I wholeheartedly agree. Part of the books and the series is growing up, and growing up is realising the adults in our life are not perfect and make mistakes. As harry grew up without parents. For him that realisation came through Dumbledore and seeing a man he put at a pedestal as just human and capable of grave mistakes. Now Molly is flawed in some ways, but she is by no means a bad parent. She loves her kids to bits and would die for them. Like most parents she won't agree with her kids every decision and that's fine. And let's be honest, if Molly ever had any knowledge that Ron felt unloved and like he was less important that woman would have smothered him with love to death. Parents are not all knowing or perfect, and at no point would Molly ever make any choice that would directly lead to hurting her children. I mean, part of the reason Fred and George were confident enough to runaway from school was knowing that whilst their mum will lose her mind, she will also still love them to bits. No matter what. She gave the same allowance to Percy when he made what was probably his biggest mistakes of his life. Anyway, love your videos !
I think feeling less loved than your siblings is kind of just a large family thing and not indicative of bad parenting. At any given point, parents are going to be prioritizing one child’s needs over another, just because they only have so much time and some needs are more urgent than others. When there are a lot of kids in the family, it can feel like you are chosen least, even if everyone is prioritized an equal amount of times. It’s just a feeling, and it doesn’t necessarily reflect reality.
Eh, I'm from a family of three kids, I'm pretty sure everyone of us three thought the other ones were more loved. It's just that humans, especially kids and teenagers, are selfish and would more remember the negative moments than the positive ones. So you remember more when you felt your parents were unjust towards you, than when you felt they were just. Plus, you also probably feel like when they're just it's the normal situation, when they're unjust, it's an unforgivable fault ^^
Well Ginny was very clearly favored over Ron though 😅 that wasn‘t imagination. Ron got a shoddy second hand wand, Ginny got a new one, Ron got shoddy second hand robes for the Yule ball, Ginny got a new dress, Rom got a sweater in a color he hated every year, his other siblings got colors they liked etc.
@@ducklingscap897 She's a girl, of course she can't get the clothes her brothers passed on her ^^ And she probably got a new wand, because no one had any wand to pass her, Ron got Charlie's wand because Charlie graduated and bought a new one ^^
She loved ron so much that she let two of his friends come over and stay there all summer for years. It's never mentioned that other Weasley children invited their friends and had them stay over. She fed and loved RONS FRIENDS Harry and Hermione as her own children
Do I think Molly Weasley is a perfect mother? No, Did she overall do well and raised 7 kids + Harry? Yes Although if I remember correctly her and Ginny were a little rude to Fleur but I think that’s her like biggest fault lol
She has seven kids, that's difficult, especially when the first one is known to make pranks on occasion, the second one liking Dragons, the third one being a stuck-up, two twins who have made more pranks in their lives than the joker, one who gets in trouble each year and one who is probably the most passed around girl in hogwarts (don't @ I like Ginny's character but we gotta be honest with ourselves), she treats an orphan like a son who basically gets tossed around like a punching bad, has a husband that's basically always in danger wether it's getting attacked by a snake, getting an inquiry at work or literally comitting a crime with a car. I'm surprised she even has time to make the damn dishes! Six boys, you wouldn't want a girl? That doesn't mean she hates them. She has to deal with two human jack-in-the-box and is trying to help them in life, EVERY PARENT DOES THAT.
My problem with the Weasley parents come from the single fact that they bought Percy an Owl instead of buying Ron a wand. Say whatever you will, but buying a son a gift when the other one doesn’t have a basic need (and yes, your own wand in the magical world is a necessity) is bad parenthood.
Oh its worse than that, they got Percy an owl AND new robes for becoming prefect, and when you realize Molly basically implied that Ron would get ONE gift for becoming prefect. There is nothing that even say's Percy spent his own money to get one of them or that he demanded two gifts, they made the choice to give him two, and there is also nothing indicating that one of them was a birthday present. Yeah, they are REALLY irresponsible with money and the signals they send out.
@1993digifan haha I just made a comment about this. What are they spending their money on that they're so broke? Once Ginny was 11, they were basically empty-nesters
This, yeah, ron had a lot of insecurity, but it did was because of his parents treatmente partly. they get percy gifts for being a prefecf while making ron use his brother's old and damaged wand. They do get ginny her own wand one year later, while ron spends the whole course using a broken one that could have killed him or someone else. In the fourth year they buy ginny , who can't even go to the yule ball unless invited by an older student, a new dress. While getting ron a horrible and old dress robes from a second hand store. Even tho he is going to the ball for sure. How is he not going to feel insecure?
@@nessyness5447 not just her, Fred and George also had normal robes. The reason why the fandom doesn’t love Molly is that unequal way of regarding her children.
I've seen my sentiment aired already in most comments. My issue for me with Molly was her treatment of Hermione in fourth year. I get that she'd basically adopted Harry and Hermione was just Ron and Harry's friend, but Hermione was a child, a literal child. That's what I can't get over. Even if we could rationalize her falling for the gossip that Rita wrote, the way she chose to act towards a child. That was vile.
I can understand why some people don't like her and I can also understand the whole Weasley!Bashing... I mean with Ginnys obsession over Harry (let's be real she was obsessed and it definetly wasn't healthy), Rons extreme jealousy over everything else and Mollys attempt to force the twins to work in a normal job... I mean Charlie and Bill literally left the country, after they finished Hogwarts, it is rather plausibel to say that they wanted to get away from Molly... Molly Weasley is a mother who wants the best for her children... but there is no denying that she is overbearing. Can't say if it is a helicopter parent territory, but she definetly interferes more often then she needed to. I like Molly simply because she is literally the only real mother figure Harry ever had and because she welcomed Harry into their home. But there is no denying that she isn't perfect, which I actually prefer. No-one is perfect and her having some small flaws make her good nature stand out even more, in my opinion anyway.
I think the occassions of true neglect towards Ron mainly -ignoring him disliking maroon -getting him an ugly robe while ginny gets a nice one -not making sure he knows that he is special Are mainly due to J.K wanting the conflict in there, regardless on whether it is constant with how she depicted Molly before .
@randomgirlvibes maybe not neglect..but if your christmas gift, year after year is a colour you can't stand, while your siblings get their colours..you might feel unimportant too..
@randomgirlvibes She was insensitive about the dress robes, though I’m sure that she’d probably been feeling stressed and overworked at the time. She knew what dress robes were supposed to look like, since she’d bought nice ones for Harry. It’s not her fault that she couldn’t afford better ones for her son, but I feel like she could have at least removed the lace.
Ginny might have gotten Molly's old one we don't know. It's only in the movie that she is wearing a dress. Also not remembering favourite or none favourite things is something that happnes in families with a lot of children. And sometimes parents just have troubles accepting things. you know how long it took my mother to accept that I don't like green no matter the shade? How often she suggested something greenish to me when we went shopping? It was annoying yes but honestly that was the smallest flaw my mother had. Also sometimes children change their taste unexpectetly or when they are older.
@@sawanna508 she must have had something to wear in the book, since she went .but then, maybe she ordered something once she was invited, who knows? And yeah, with so many kids, it can happen, but the writing makes it seem as if it only happened with ron..she even remembers harry perfectly, which just makes it inconsistent
One thing I didn't get about her, when I was reading books, is why she wasn't working. They struggled with money a lot, but she stayed at home, while all the kids were at school all year.
By the way, the thing with Dumbledore’s questionable decisions is not concealed in the book ! We get to see his flaws, his neglect towards his family, his selfishness because of his talent, and finally his regret, which are not really well shown in the movie
Molly isn't a bad mother, but I have gripes with her. 1. Never remembering Ron hates Marroon when Harry and the rest of the Weasleys get Sweaters that perfectly suit them. Ditto with the Dress robes 4th year. 2. Getting Percy new robes and an owl when Ron had a hand me down wand. 3. Believing Skeeter about Hermione. Btw. About ships. While I dislike canon and like Harmony good enough in fics, my preference is platonic trio. None of the trio should have been romantically connected to each other.
2 was quite normal for families with a lot of children: Younger ones complain that they never get new stuff older ones complaning that the younger ones are allowed to to things much earlier then them. You don't waste something someone else could need in a familie like this. 1. That's something that happens in big familys as well. It is almost the same thing with confusing names when calling an individual. Also children sometimes change their habits. It took my mother years and year to accept that I don't like green for example.
Plus she'd survived a war and lost loved ones in it only to watch her kids grow up and throw themselves into winning another war that she thought had been resolved already. She's traumatised herself and trying to parent through her fear and unhealed trauma during a literal war. It says alot about her character that despite her fears she never once back out from a fight, or refused to let her family be part of the war effort, because while she was scared she was also well aware that doing nothing would be worse than trying to make improvements and that's an agonising thing to do as a mother, to let your kids take such risks while wanting to protect them.
Tbo, my 5th book looks similar. It's just because the the thickness of it doesn't correlates with the strength of the cover. You need to have hardcovers for larger books :(
still waiting on your percy book reviews. cant wait to hear your thoughts on the last two. i found this series later in life to and honestly. im sad i hadnt read any of it sooner cause it wouldve been a favorite more then it is for me now
Hi just found your channel👋 First I love how many different fandoms you talk about be it Harry potter, Doctor who or Percy jackson. FYI those three are my favourite lol. Second Molly Weasley is the GOAT of mothers in HP especially in the books. So kind to Harry and Hermione, she welcomes Harry into her family. I love the chapter early on in Order of the Phoenix when she argues with Sirius about to tell Harry about what the Order is up. The fact she wants to protect him and allow him to have a sense of normality and says Harry is "as good as" a son. This to a boy who experienced cruelty and neglect from his aunt and uncle. Molly Weasley deserves the world❤
1st of all. Molly Weasley is probably the best mother character I've ever read (maybe except for Sally Jackson) so I don't know why people say shes a bad mother. Also, i feel like ur reasoning makes so much sense. That's always how I read it as before Also I've read Crying in H Mart before and its so good.
I don't agree with any of those criticisms. But she didn't she get a job after Ginny went to school? Why were all their secondhand clothes so shabby? Why didn't she mend their textbooks? She bought 7 sets of textbooks? What were they spending their money on that they were always broke?
Most secondhand cloths are not descriped it's just mentioned they are hand-me-downs exept fro Ron's dress robe that was jsut old fashoned.The textbooks are more often descriped as shabby esepcially Ginny's but I am sure that it is impossible to mend things entlessly. If material is missing that may be something you can't fiy with a spell. Anyway Ginny is mentioned gluing one of her books not mending it magically. Molly's traum could be a reason why she didn't get a job or maybe she didn't GOT a job since she didn't work for so long and is by now a middle aged woman.
Totally agree with all the points you touch on in the video, but I would like to add a couple of things. First, a family is a system of relationships; Molly is not solely responsible for her children’s feelings or traumas, especially when she hasn't overcome her own. From the beginning of the Weasley family's story, their decisions have been driven more by individual happiness than by the common good, which explains the children's feelings. For example, Draco Malfoy deals with the rigid "family tradition" of being a Death Eater. The Weasleys are different. Arthur's job at the Ministry brings him satisfaction but not much money. Molly chose to stay at home to care for their children. This isn't to blame them but to show that their experiences during the first war led them to value happiness over economic stability. When Molly's brothers died, her older children were very young, likely causing insecurities in all her children. Ron's issues aren't because Molly makes him feel bad, but because he has five older brothers. Bill and Charlie were talented wizards, prefects, and Percy’s ambition is likely driven by a desire to match them. It's like each sibling sets a higher bar, and when it's Fred and George's turn reject it, choosing their own path (same decision as Arthur in the beggining) despite staying at Hogwarts to not disappoint Molly. Leaving wasn't easy for them. I want to defend Molly here. I don't think she doesn’t support her children; I think she's scared-scared that things will go wrong, that they'll lack a basic education, or that she'll lose them due to trauma. She also fears they might do something against their father or siblings in the Ministry. Let's remember that a large part of the scolding Ron gets when they take the flying Ford Anglia is because his father is facing an investigation. Yes, Ron could have literally died, but we are talking about Arthur's job being the family's livelihood. I'm sorry but I can't blame Molly for being scared. Ron's case not only inherits all the family traumas but also faces bullying from his brothers, who sometimes lack empathy. With six brothers, Ginny should be more traumatized than Ron, but although the trauma is the same, their personalities are different. Ginny has had to prove is that she is good enough, being a girl. Because Molly wanted a girl, yeah. I bet she was her darling. But we also know that the girl would open the broom shed to train alone. I wonder why she'd to do it in secret. We all have traumas. Molly, Narcissa, and even Lily Potter aren't perfect mothers. They are people doing the best they can. Saying Molly is a bad mother because she seems to give more affection to Harry than to Ron overlooks her empathy and deep understanding of both boys, as shown by her actions like the clocks.
@magicbymikailaa Sure! (and by the way, I don't know if it's intended, and it's not like 'Dearest gentle fan...' but my mind read it with Julie Andrews voice hahaha!)
Saying she neglected Ron is weird given that he was the only child his parents allowed him to have his TWO best friends for the whole summer and other holidays, none of the other Weasley members had that privilege 😛
I agree with everything you said. I think she's a great mother. However, there's a flaw of Mrs. Weasley that I can't help but hold against her when I reread the books. She can be a bit too quick to judge other women sometimes. She judged her son's fiancé because Fleur is a gorgeous French girl and decided that she must be shallow and not good enough for her son. she passed on that mentality to Ginny too who could be pretty mean to Fleur. She judged Hermione, her son's best friend for several years, as promiscuous based off gossip rags by Rita Skeeter and treated her coldly the next time they met based off that judgement. That gives me the ick honestly lol but I will say that she realized that she was in the wrong when it came to Fleur and changed her attitude afterwards and did the same once she realized that Rita is a liar. i wish there was a bit more reflection of where that treatment of women stems from but what can you do? JK isn't the person I'd want deconstructing internalized mysogyny anyways
1. My books look just like yours and I refuse to buy new ones. 2. Molly Weasley has flaws for sure (like when she sent Hermione a tiny Easter egg because she believed the gossip in Witch Weekly) and is overprotective, but that doesn't make her a bad mother--it makes her human.
That Order of the Phoenix copy looks EXACTLY like mine. The binding on that particular paperback is so weak, too many thick pages with thin glue and a flimsy paper cover. You wouldn’t be able to properly read through that copy and it not look like it’s been through a war zone.
My initial split-second reaction to this title was "Why would Molly Weasley need to be defended? She killed Voldemort's most formidable lieutenant. She's one of the most powerful witches in the country." Then my brain kicked in, I watched the video, and...really? I understand the arguments to some degree, but Mikaila's counters are spot on. Ron was certainly never neglected, and Molly was right to be worried about F/G. If not for the seed money from Harry, their business would not have grown anywhere near as fast. Molly also must have had serious concerns about F/G's magical skills as well, given their abysmal perfornance in school. Oh, for Percy: the Imperius Curse. I will die on that hill. I do believe that his initial split from his family was real, but at some point, Percy was cursed. He had understandable concerns at first, but after the Ministry fell, there is no way that he'd turn against the man who saved his little sister's life in the Chamber of Secrets.
I don’t think Percy was imperiused, I think it was as he said in the reconciliation scene: he had realised he was horribly wrong, but had dug himself into this hole. There’s that scene of Percy and Mr Weasley being in the elevator together, and obviously both of them want to reach out but can’t. I think he genuinely just thought the bridge had been burnt and that there was no way back to his family. That doesn’t mean he was furthering the ministry’s interests once it had fallen - he got information about the Battle of Hogwarts incredibly fast, so I presume he must have had some kind of connections, and I think if he’d had the chance to help Harry after that point, he would have. In any case, imperiusing Percy to have a fallout with his family is quite pointless, as the only worth Percy has to the death eaters is that he’s a Weasley and thus could give information about the Order and about Harry. If he has no contact with his family, he’s quite pointless, really. He only kept his position because no one was very bothered about him or viewed him as a threat.
I think a lot of Percy's attitude came from his frustration with his dad, who _is_ very talented, and could probably have gotten very high up in the Ministry if he'd tried, but that's not where his passion & joy are. I think Percy saw what his father did (or didn't do, in this case), but not the why, and so eventually he exploded. But I think after being cut off from his family and seeing the dark turn the Ministry took helped him understand his parents' _why_, and I think that made a big difference in Percy coming 'round
@mlpfanboy1701 3 passing OWL's each, IIRC, compared to Ron's 7. Of course, that's less because of their skill and more because they didn't care about tests, but as a mom who is only getting their report cards, and knows what grades you _have_ to make in order to get a decent job, I can see why she would be worried. Fred & George's path turned out perfectly for them, but as a mother watching from a distance, I can see why Mrs. Weasley is biting her fingernails
A part of Molly's character that lives in my head rent free is when she shows up to be Harry's family during the Tri Wizard Tournament. That part makes me cry. As someone who's had chosen family over blood family, it's really touching ❤
People saying she neglected her own kids for harry is crazyyy. She never neglected her kids, she gave harry a little attention because she knew its what this isolated, traumatized, and abused child needed. Her taking care of a child thats not her own does not mean she neglected her own kids, shes shown to take great care of them!
Seeing you outside of Harry/Voldemort/Draco/Cho/Bella/Edward/Everyone else you play is such a surreal experience. I had to double check to make sure I was on the right channel because you look so different without the costumes.
Ron feel the elast loved... but in previous books, he also felt embarassed and awkward about his mother's affection (like most teenagers, that's normal ^^), so like, what was the goood parenting for him? XD
I don't think Ron felt the least loved. He only felt the expectations in a diffrent way turing the first year. I think every child has this primeval fear not to be loved somewhere deep inside because we are not able to survive as infants. That's the fear Tom/Voldemort tried to use against him as the Medallion.
This never came to my mind. She had to play strict parent, as Mr. Weasley was obviously relaxed parent. Considering the complicated situation she did really great job. Also, JKR knows this situation quite well, it is the reason why Molly is very realistic.
I just don't like how everyone kept saying the Weasleys were poor... They weren't. They were middle class average people who had trouble managing finances. Look at the logic, they win lottery, what do they do? Instead of using the money for things they actually need, they spend it all on a vacation to egypt... And then they go back to complaining how they are poor. Secondly, why have so many kids if you can't provide well for them? And third, Ron's idea of being poor is not having the best wizard robes and getting second hand books. That's not being poor. He gets full meals everyday, studies in the best wizard school, has a roof over his head... He's not poor.
Does make me wonder why Mollie didn't try to get a job after Ginny went to Hogwarts. The house would be empty. It would be the first time in years she didn't have kids for the majority of the year. Hell not even for the money just so she would be bored all day.
They are considered poor for what they are and that’s how they’re usually portrayed, especially in Britain. Also they spend that money to go to Egypt because that’s where their son Bill lived at the time.
@@foodieforyou3165 They went to visit Bill in Egypt, though. For a family as close-knit as the Weasleys, being that far away from Bill must have been really hard, especially for Ron & Ginny who were so much younger. I can also see them taking an approach of "We will always have expenses, but when else are we going to be able to give our kids the experience of traveling to see their big brother?" A bit of a "use it or lose it" mentality, and they _did_ get Ron a new wand
Their Vault is basically empty, with only a couple of sickles and knuts... a Galleon is 50 pounds (if I remember that fun fact correctly) meaning they don't even have 50 pounds in their bank account. I would call that poor, barely having enough money. If you don't have any money you can't go on many vacations, having the whole family going on vacations is a huge thing for a poorer family and it isn't like they used all that money for it either way, I kinda doubt that they bought Ron a new Wand and then said _"and now we are poor again"_ Mr. Weasly is the only one supporting the family and decjdes to work in a position where he doesn't earn a lot. It's like being the only money maker in the family and only working as a janitor, while having to support your 7 kids.
Is it just me or that fandoms tends to hate loving mothers? I've saw that in My Hero Academia where Deku's mom Inko was unfairly labeblled as "abusive" by toxic fans when Anko did nothing but love her own son and even supported his goals of being a superhero, despite not having a Quirk of his own. How can anyone call Molly a bad mother when she looked after her 7 children with great care, treated Harry as one of her own when he lost his birth parents and was raised in an abusive household, and even killed fucking Bellatrix who nearly murdered her only daughter. Molly is also one of the few positive parental figures in this whole series as she and her husband raised their kids with love and care. Molly Weasley is the Best Mom in this series.
As someone who has spent way to much money on Power Rangers action figures, a Tardis cookie jar, and multiple editions of the same books, I can safely say being a nerd is not free.
Wasn't there a thing that her maiden name was part of the last dynasty. She was the last of her siblings. So when she married Arthur. She had many kids to continue her family line.
What people are on about? Imaging raising 6 boys and staying sane. She did a great job.
Imagine raising Fred and George and staying sane (I love them but let's be honest they're pure chaos)
Agreed. Love the twins but I wouldn't last a single day with them. I value my peace a lot.
Well she made those kids herself, no one pushed her to have so many. She was not as bad as other parents in the series, but she surely had problems.
@@Pirates.27 I do think it's wild that after having TWINS, she decided to have 2 more kids anyway lol
@@BlueSparxLPs Wasn’t it because she wanted to have a girl? I'm not saying Ron was not loved, but he was kinda neglected whereas Ginny was pampered... That's not a sign of healthy parenting.
There were a few things regarding Mrs Weasley’s parenting that went over my head as a kid but I really appreciate now that I’m rereading as an adult:
-at King’s Cross, when she found out that the young boy who had asked for directions was the famous Harry Potter, she immediately told her kids not to gawk at him. She realized he must feel overwhelmed and just wants to be treated like a normal kid, not like a celebrity or a museum piece
-even though we had spent a dozen chapters getting to know Harry, Mrs Weasley barely met him, and yet she didn’t hesitate to send him a hand knit sweater and snacks when Ron told her that Harry wasn’t expecting to get anything for Christmas
-the “not my daughter you b****” scene I just assumed was rage at her daughter nearly getting killed, but now I realize it was more than that. Her brothers died in the first war. Her eldest son was permanently disfigured just a year ago. One twin son lost an ear and the other died. Her adopted son was (as far as she knew) dead. Now the killing curse missed her one and only daughter by a hair. No WONDER she was angry
Anger seems like an understatement for the terrible wrath that Molly unleashed on Bellatrix.
@@Cailus3542 fair enough, I just couldn’t quite find the right word to describe it
Roth? Perhaps
Oh yeah anger isn't understatement.. Her mama bear Power was unleashed to its Zenith.
It's something that takes you beyond any limits that you've perceived before.
It overrides your own Survival limits. To put everything you can possibly have into destroying the threat,
I would also add that not only was that her only daughter. That was her youngest and final child. Ginny is the baby of the family.
Although loving a holy children equally, There is a special connection with That being Her only girl. After a parade of boys. The special connection that they can only have together as mother and daughter.
The most recent life that she had growing inside her. When we give birth hormones are released that then later on make the memories of giving birth a bit fuzzy. As time passes and with more kids the experiences of the earlier ones often become more faded. Excepting possibly the first birth. As that was the starting point.
I hope what I explained made sense. Kind of difficult to put words to it.
I cried so much when I read that part like Mrs Weasley is so strong and she has this motherly and soft vibe all the time and just in that ONE moment she let's out all her rage and fear and sadness, everything she ever held back, her worry, every time she ever had to be strong for the kids, ugh!!! Tears!!!
Honestly my biggest issue with Molly was when she believed the slander Rita Skeeter wrote about Hermione and then starts to treat Hermione different until Harry calles Molly out.
I often use this example to illustrate the problem with echo chambers or consuming baised media. Molly knows that Rita Skeeter sensationalizes and out right lies in her writings and yet when she reads what Rita wrote about Harry and Hermione she believes it because it feeds into this tragic, sensitive hero image of Harry that she wants to believe. "He still cries about his parents, bless him". And so she believes the lies about Hermione and starts acting coldly to her, sending her smaller treats than anyone else. It makes Molly very flawed and and real but still i am annoyed with her for falling for it .
This was ao horrible. Ron says that Molly does believe hermione to be a " bad woman" from what skeeter says. Hermione was 14. 14. Echo chamber or not is just disgusting for an adult to think those things of a 14 year old. Skeeter ( and molly in believing it and treating hermione like that) was pretty much slutshaming a child. and is worse because Molly knew Hermione, Hermione had spent part of the holidays under her roof. Ginny was only one year younger than Hermione too. And yet Molly was quick to see Hermione, a litteral child that she knew personally, as a goldigger and a "bad woman" because of an article. And here is the thing, she would have never believed those things about harry.
@@DorkQueen23 I think Harry outranked Ron in terms of favorite children...
That was indeed horrible, and I am not going to defend that. I do want to add a bit of context, in that I think it is not completely unbelievable for her to act this way. She is a very protective mother sending her children off for most of the year and relying on letters from her own children to know what is going on (and pobably not receiving nearly as many as she would like). She has basically adopted Harry as her own because she feels he does not have anyone else, and she had offered that Harry could come live with them. While she very much liked Hermione, she presumably mostly saw her as one of Ron/Harry's friends. She was an impressionable (case in point: Gilderoy Lockhart) stay-at-home mother whose nerves were already maximised because of Harry's participation in the tournament, for whom it would not be far-fetched to consume any bit of news she could find to stay informed. And many people seem to have believed Rita Skeeter for some time, so she was far from alone. The way she chose to act on that perspective, though, that was indeed rather vile. An adult should have known better so, again, not defending that at all.
This was one of the signs of JKR's internalized misogyny
The only way I ever saw this reaction was that she was still hoping Harry would fall in love with Ginny, since she knew how much her daughter loved him. So she believed that Hermione would break that possibility if she simply got together with Harry.
I'm one of 6 kids with mostly brothers, so I vibe a lot with the Wealsleys. We haven't had a Percy situation yet, but Molly really is a lot like my mom. She did the best she could with what she had. I feel like Molly was written really realistically, with all the complexities and faults of a real human mother, but also she can do magic.
Joanne and her writing have a lot (and I mean a LOT) of flaws, but I feel like Molly Weasley was written well. I thought she was basically universally loved until now
@@spongecakes1986honestly as bad as some aspects are, I think character writing is one of her strengths. Even when some characters seem to be great *despite* her (Ginny comes to mind, since it seems she basically coalesced from traits she slowly added as she needed for the plot).
Molly I feel is one of the best example of a character that does have flaws but they are very realistic ones
Im one of 6 kids (also one of the youngest) and understand that molly tried her best but there is only so much you can do to support each and every kid equally. She was an amazing mom who figured out how to balance the needs of each kid. Unfortunately since there is only so much she can do this leads to one of the kids feeling overlooked and uncared for even though she is just trying her best. She also managed to keep incredibly upbeat considering the amount of stress she must've had trying to care for each child.
@@OscarGomez-hg8cbsee I don’t feel that way about Ginny. I think it was the way she developed in the book. I think she was shy around Harry in the beginning and then as she pulled away from him as a crush she was able to express herself more and show her confidence and humor. I feel like the problem is how she was portrayed in the films which was terrible.
Well you likely aren't an emotionally abusive family, so it's no surprise that no one wants out like Percy did.
Come prove that anyone BUT Molly even liked Percy in the first 4 books. If they're such a loving family it should be easy to prove in comparison to everything that proves that at best they are indifferent about him once you actually think about their actions and words directed at/about Percy. Maybe you can start with asking yourself this "Would I want to be mailed shit where I work".
"Tax the Malfoys they do not need all those peacocks" 😂😂😂❤
I need to know if the peacocks in the yard is a british thing or a wizard thing....can any brits out there confirm whether rich people keep peacocks?? 😂
@@magicbymikaila Not British, but according to google (I got curious, and who am I to deny the research?) royals/wealthy people in Britain DID keep peacocks as symbols of their wealth and status 🤷♀😅
@@magicbymikaila I lived in the UK for half of my life and I have never seen it xD but I could imagine in some countryside estates
@@magicbymikaila ay mate I think it's a bri ish thing innit mate
@@magicbymikaila it is fairly common for large country estates to have peacocks in england at least. i dont quite know why but they do
I have never heard this POV before. I always thought she just treated Harry like an adopted son, and treated her own kids like her own kids. i.e. they were all loved as individuals.
I’ve always hated Molly slander. As someone who grew up with an abusive parent, I was ferally jealous of the Weasley kids. Any part taking place at the burrow with Molly and Arthur was like chicken soup for the soul. Chamber of Secrets was my comfort book because I found the loving domesticity of the Weasleys just as enchanting as Harry does. The part where the Weasley kids steal Harry from the Dursleys and whisk him away to the safety of the burrow was my fantasy as a kid.
The internet thinks mothers are never allowed to be sassy, sarcastic, or scared, which is what Molly was usually doing during the scenes of her supposedly being a bad mother. Sure, there were scenes where her behavior wasn’t great, but in the context of her life it’s understandable. In a war not very long ago she lost family and friends. She’s scared for her children. And usually for good reason (stealing flying cars, dropping out of school, etc) Not all parents are perfect at expressing their emotions, but it doesn’t make them bad parents. Mothers are still human. If being a good parent means never making mistakes then there are no good parents irl. And let’s be real. If any of the Weasley kids heard you calling Molly a bad mom they’d hex you.
The only time I actually had real irritation with Molly was when she was being irrationally mean to Hermione (Book 4 Rita Skeeter subplot) and Fleur (Molly writing Fleur off as vain and not serious about Bill). But even then she apologized and made amends.
To be fair neglecting a child is also abuse. You don’t have to be hit. Emotional starvation is a thing. Having 7 children is extremely selfish, so the least you should do is treat everyone equally. If you can’t do that, don’t have 7 children…
Also treating 14 year old Hermione coldly because you think she is a „gold digger“ …. not her greatest hour.
@@ducklingscap897Oh ffs, she didn’t “emotionally starve” any of her children lmfao. Please don’t join the massive trend of minimizing what actual abuse is by using misleading examples influenced by privilege or unaddressed trauma.
Claiming Molly “emotionally* starved” her children is as ridiculous & dramatic as calling a 40yo man dating a 27yo woman a p+do or claiming an older sibling doing standard chores and/or watching their younger one a couple hours a week is parentification or believing calling your baby a boy or girl is somehow tr•nsphobic.
Ugh. I’m sick of people throwing around serious words so lightly.
*edit- Slide keyboard ended up with “entirely” instead of “emotionally”, so I fixed it.
@@j_g9109I agree with that last part especially. People don’t seems to realize that if you use serious words on trivial things then that starts to make people perceive the real thing as trivial. My example is ADHD no it’s not “I can’t focus on school” try never focus on what you want to almost ever and that includes relationships unless you feel inspired to hyper fixate in which case you will put that first and foremost or be miserably bored and that includes putting before eating and sleeping and this is just one aspect of the real deal. But nooooo completely normal behaviors for young boys is just adhd nowadays.
Long story short use serious words on serious things not trivial matters like the guy said.
I felt jealous of the Weasley Kids too. My parents were not abusive I jsut had a difficult relationship with my mom because she was a perfectionist and i have always been chaotic and messy.
Molly arguably loved her children a little too much that she wanted them taking the "respectable" or "safe" paths in life to ensure that all of them would be well off and not having to go through what the family at large did - didn't like the twins taking a risk on the shop without a "decent" path. This was obviously not the best, but to twist that into "Molly is a bad mom" is a mean-spirited take.
Molly will be a much-visited, well-remembered mother.
And the twins seemed to sense that her frustrations came from a place of fear for them, because while they rolled their eyes, they didn't seem to let it bother or stop them - and the first thing they did when the shop started turning a profit was to show their mom that they were okay.
Some parents have a hard time letting their children go, especially when the path looks dangerous
Also I think most of this audience and most of the people she hears this from are Americans but the book is written from a Brit and for a British audience initially. I have a guy I watch that is a young British guy named Lewis. He is very funny but he has mentioned many times that the whole ‘American Dream’ thing is very much an American thing. He said people in Britain don’t usually encourage others to take risks. They tend to stay in their own path more. They don’t branch out. Obviously this is one guys opinion but he would know more than me as an American if this is the case she may have been afraid for them to take the scary option and wanted them to do something ‘safe’ like work for the ministry.
She was also worried that their joke shop inventions were dangerous (they were), they promoted school misbehaviour (they did), they were doing illegal things to get it off the ground (they were) and they got the money for it illegally (they didn't, but she had no way of knowing that).
Her reservations were not unreasonable.
I feel like if Fred and George started out with the idea of pitching shield hats to the Aurors Mrs Weasley would not have been so reluctant.
Also, part of the reason we as an audience have an affinity with Fred & Georges joke shop was that Umbridge controlled the school when it got off the ground. If students were using these items in the same way at any other time, it would not garner as much sympathy.
@@IamGrimalkin I agree with most of this. I am not sure they were doing illegal things to get it off the ground but they were breaking school rules, particularly when Umbridge was around.
@@occheermommy They illegally bought Venomous Tentacula seed pods from Mundungus Fletcher for that purpose, so yes they were doing illegal things.
People calling Molly a bad mother probably raised a Dudley…
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Was raised by Petunia does that count? 😂
Dursley not dudley
@@AndrewThePotterKidYT "raised a dudley" meaning raised a kid to be like dudley dursley
@@silverrraven5349 ✅ok
The state of those books hurt my soul
my formal apologies 😭😭😭
@@magicbymikaila it does the opposite for me bcs it's clearly well-loved
That reminds me of what I had to do so my mom could read the books. Her hands were too arthritic to hold the large books so I had to cut them up into smaller sections. She went on her next great adventure 6 years ago. After I got into Harry Potter, I shared it with her.
@@matthewpatrick7263that’s a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing
I just remember that that's a book that has been read and re read many times
Do i think Molly was a bad mother? no. Do i agree with all of her desicions? HARD no.
I reread the books last year an was suprised by how much less i liked her for her choices, specifically around preparing the kids for the coming war, and sabataging the other adults attempts to inform or train them (seen as early as book 3 where Mr. Weasley has to go behind hher back to tell Harry that there's a presumed serial killer after him. Kinda important information).
But it makes her A REALISTIC PERSON who doesn't want her kids to be in danger and is trying to protect them. Even if her way of protection is kinda infantilizing and ignoring the fact that trouble comes to Harry whether he looks for it or not, and he needs to be ready.
TLDR: haters have some points? yes. Is thier conclusion right??? NO. No one in this story made 100% good choices, thats what makes them good characters.
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I'd tend to agree with you. However, were I Harry in the last book, when Molly was actively keeping the trio from being able to plan their Horcrux hunt, I'd have blown up and asked her who's side she was on - his or Voldemort's.
The watch thing is interesting because Molly went about it the way that was most meaningful to each of them. Ron is frustrated with all of the second hand things that are all that’s available to him but has plenty of family and reminders of family whereas Harry has money where he he’s able to buy new things for himself and doesn’t mind second hand items. For Harry he’s getting an heirloom as another sign of being part of the family and Ron gets a new watch as a sign of importance and being valued.
From what I've seen there are people in the fandom who ships harry and voldemort(🤢🤮), think dumbledore is the actual evil mastermind, believe ron was abusive to hermione etc..molly being a bad mother is just another one of these. In a fandom as big as this you're bound to find all sorts of weirdos..but no point in letting them ruin our enjoyment of the books.
There's certainly a lot of criticism you can give Dumbledore, but "evil mastermind" is just not it. He did questionable things with ultimately the right intentions.
SHIP HARRY WITH THE MURDERER OF HIS PARENTS?! Yeah, this is one of the many reasons I don't get into shipping. Some people truly are freaks about it. Ship Harry and Voldermort is too revolting. What disturbed minds could conceive of such a thing?
@@spongecakes1986 that's the point..the entirety of deathly hallows showed how dumbledore was just another fallible human being who tried to do the best with what he had..and harry loves him despite those mistakes. But a lot of these wackos seem to have missed that memo..
@@blank8278 exactly
@saranyachaudhuri9838 That's what I really liked about the deathly hallows. It made Dumbledore so interesting as a character.
My one beef with Mrs. Weasley is the way she treated Sirius when he was going through a mental health crisis. But I do think she was a good mother who cared about her children and she was always very sweet to Harry.
In Molly's defense, it seems like the Wizarding World's response to mental health problems are to shove chocolate at it or call people crazy
@@BinBinB4 Very valid point. She probably wasn't properly equipped to identify the signs of Sirius's mental health issues, let alone support him if she had. I just always thought he could have used a little more kindness from any one of the adults in Book 5, Molly included.
Even if she’s right that Sirius sees Harry more like James rather than a child, her line taunting him about not being there for Harry because he was locked up is truly awful. The man was sent to Azkaban for something he didn’t do, he was innocent and suffered trauma for 13 years and you’re going to mock him for not being there for Harry? I intensely disliked her in that moment. And just generally I tend to dislike characters that are controlling and domineering.
@@goldenmelody722Harry was the only one who seemed to openly sympathize or understand what Sirius had been through. And Ron to a degree. Hermione and Molly were quite insensitive towards him.
@@janhavi1977Yeah, and the problem was that the fandom seemed to believe her. Sirius was one of the few adults who actually tried to get to know Harry as a person, and communicated with him.
My only beef with Molly is how she treated Hermione in the 4th book and falling for clearly untrue gossip but that’s mainly because she was written by someone who is not a girls girl and it shows lol
It shows so much, look at how ahe , ginny and hermione treated Fleur too. Or how Hermione treated lavender and parvati for being into girly stuff and basically being the typical horoscope teen girls with how they liked divination.
Mmhmm
Well it was established in the book that she was the only Weasley who read Rita skeeter, against her own best judgement. Plus maybe she had started to see Ron developing feelings for Hermione and felt defensive..
@@smartacious…Molly being defensive about her son having a crush on his best friend isn’t a point in her favor
@@smartacious If it was because of Ron, she wouldn't have changed her attitude toward Hermonie when Harry said that article was a pack of lies. I don't think this makes her a bad mom or person, just more realistic. These are characters and they need faults to be more 3D.
0:07 is that a moaning myrtle cosplay with a toilet seat around her head? Peak!
yes she was amazing!! she's @accioartwitches on instagram and makes amazing fan-made harry potter merch if anyone wants to check out her out! (I bought that niffler treats bottle I'm holding in my newt cosplay from her shop!)
So that is what the toilet seat was about. I was so confused!
Peoples standards for mothers in fiction (and irl too) are insane sometimes lol. They're literally human beings, and therefore obviously flawed. Obviously there are extremes and abusive mothers but people have always been much quicker to point fingers.
So we just have to love and support the flaws? No it’s still ok to point out that having 7 children when you can barely afford two financially isn’t a good decision or that blatantly favoring one child over the others isn’t good parenting.
I’m not really that much in the hp fandom anymore and more in the Riordan verse. But honestly how can they say Molly is a *bad mother* when she cares for all her children and try’s to make them the most stable life possible?
Same I’m more into the Riordan verse too
Because some insecure persons feels like if you're not 100% behind your children, even when they make dumb decisions (and risking all your savings to open a store when you're just fresh out of school is a dumb decision ^^), then you're a bad parent, apparently.
I mean, she did have more kids than she could properly afford because she wanted a girl. And she did buy ron a horrible second hand formal tunic for the yule ball while buying ginny( who could not even go if she was not invited by an older student) a newer dress. She also treated 14 yo hermione horribly because despite knowing hermione personally, she chose to believe rita skeeter'a article and thought hermione was a " bad woman" ans " gold digger" ( again, she believed this about a 14 year old child). And she was awful to fleur too.
having 7 children when you can’t really afford them is really selfish.
And if you don’t even treat your children equally it is a shitty thing to do. Ron was obviously not treated nearly as good as Ginny.
I agree… but you gotta admit “NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU B!” Was such a AMAZING FRIGGING LINE🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Omg, there's a bug! *fearful noises*" I have never related to you more.
Thank you for the video! I never knew Molly haters existed, to be honest. I always liked Molly when I read the books as a child, and as an adult I appreciate her even more. The way she included Harry in the family (sending him the same knitted sweaters she sent her children, welcoming him into their home in the summer etc) warms my heart.
You'd better believe I did a spit take when I saw The title of this video and came in like the Kool-Aid Man with my fists up screaming "WHO TF SAID THAT???"
How can there not be a way for me to thumbs up this comment a thousand times? I need to express my joy properly and that requires many thumbs ups given...
Are these the same “fans” who say Ginny and James drugged Harry and Lilly in order to “steal them away from their real loves” with there being no evidence in any material to support it. Are these the same “fans” that say Ron isn’t good enough for Hermione and she belongs with Harry or Draco one of which views her as sister the other viewing her as sub-human.
It still makes me mad that people ship Hermione with a bastard who's been abusing her and wishing she was dead for years just because she was a Muggleborn. As for Harry, he's never been interested in her and she's never been interested in him. Like people really have water in their brains, don't they?
@@PhebusdesTours I don't ship Hermione and Draco, but once I read a fiction about these toi meeting 12 years after the battle. That was a very understandable because it happened a long time after ( and drago was a stupid person during his school time ) he changes a bit at the end of the movie, so that story was quite good.
I don't ship them but I think Draco changed a little in the 7years.
The Ginny "theory" comes from the movies, and not from the books. As in the movies they have no chemistry except a one-sided crush, until all of a sudden Harry is just as interested in her as she is in him. One seen where she is good at quidditch isn't going to do it for most of the movie watchers. So I can see where that theory comes from.
But if you read the books that theory just sounds insane as Ginny is a way better written character and Harry grows more and more attached to her.
So I don't really think it's a crazy theory, but it's miss informed, and doesn't make much sense if you read the books.
The Hermione and Draco ship also has most of it's basis in behind the scenes material and very little from the books or even movies
Listen i do not ship snily, in fact i think their relationship never having anything romantic to it makes more sense. Including from his part, she was his only real friend and the only person who truly showed him care, and that is bigger than romantic love.
But, it is weird that lily, who also hates james, who had spent years rejectin him and was so done with his constant harrassment, suddenly changed her mind over a few months and started dating him in sixth year. Not saying there was a love potion involved , mostly just bad writting. But in any case maybe because lily was sad and disappointed at snape, shehad just lost a childhood friend too, and worse he called her a racist slur after he was the first one to tell her being muggle born didn't matter, so imagine how hurt she must have been. James probably used the opportunity to be the shoulder to cry on and took advantage that she was vulnerable to talk her into a date. Because he showed he could be that type of person when she asked him to leave snape alone and james said he would if she went on a date with him. He would not do something directly ilegal as a love potion, but taking advantage of lily going through emotional turmoil over snape calling her a slur and their friendship being definitely broken after she tried to save it for months? I do see james capable of that, he would not even think he was doing something wrong, because we see he doesn't see not accepting her rejection and insisting as bad. Now if that evemtually led to a happy relationship and he did eventually matured and behaved better, that's good. But the start of the relationship sounds weird because of the timing and how by what sirius and lupin said james had not changed yet when he and lily started dating, he just did the bullying behind her back. So it's not crazy to suspect a bit of foul play on his part at the start of them dating.
@@nicolasripoll7974yeah, i can see this " decades after reunion" fanfics with draco and hermione because they are basically an AU. And because people do change over the years and after a decade you would not be the same person. So those aren't so bad and at least they tend to be well constructed because hermione doesn't have to change draco or he change for her. He is already changed when they meet again and that's why they develope feelings, because he is a different and better person for himself.
Your book is in quite a state. Was it the property of the Half-Blood Prince?
I begrudgingly need the in defense for percy video 😂
I never thought the Weasleys were POOR, exactly... just that they had a lot of kids in quick succession. In my head canon, Bill and Charlie sent their parents some part of their pay to help out once they left home. Percy was cringe but totally understandable: why are we always wearing mended hand-me-downs, why does everything we own seem worn out and overused (Why does Ron have a hand-me-down wand?? That's not how they work best! Give Ron a decent chance, ffs!)? If only Dad would make an effort to climb the ladder at the Ministry, we could be rolling in Galleons! (Kids always think Mum and Dad have all the money, and they don't know what anything costs or how to budget for a large family.) I would have thought Molly's histrionics were stressful, but she's not malicious, just over the top. "Where HAVE you been?" It's a good question!
The Wizarding community is far less stratified than our real world societies. The fact that Arthur and Lucia's even interact with each other on a first name basis tells us a lot.
Their kids get the exact same quality education. The Weasleys were cash poor, but there prospects were really not so grim. All the Weasley kids ended up with excellent careers.
*Lucius
"I never thought the Weasleys were POOR, exactly.."
Then you've never read the books ^^'
The Weasleys ARE poor. They live in a society where magic can solve a lot of things, so poverty isn't that bad (plus they seem to grow their own food themselves ^^), but they're clearly one of the poorest wizarding family.
@@krankarvolund7771 Relativistic poor. Not absolute poor. Its an economics concept(most of which break down in the HP world due to the basis of all economics being scarcity and magic fixing all that)
I think also with Percy, Arthur has a position in misuse of muggle artefacts but keeps getting fines and making their financial situation worse. So they have to pay the fine and Arthur’s likelihood of promotion is lesser. If Arthur followed the rules he’s supposed to enforce then they’d be better off (from Percy’s view, as I read it) so then Percy goes all the way rule following and brownnoses to pull himself out of that situation as quickly as possible.
Why does everything need to be something? Molly was awesome!! People need to chill.
Exactly ^^
Agreed❤
Having 7 children living in poverty when you could have two living a life without money troubles is not awesome. Also blatantly favoring the girl you always wanted to have at the disadvantage of the boys before that is just shit. Buying Ron shitty second hand robes for the Yule ball and then getting Ginny a nice new dress while Ginny wasn’t even able to go to the ball without specifically being invited by an older student is shit.
Treating Hermione coldly because you believe a gossip rag that a 14 year old is a slutty gold digger and only using harry is also shit.
They way she treated Fleur wasn’t exactly awesome either.
Like she isn’t a horrible person but there is definitely a lot of potential to be a better person.
@@ducklingscap897 so im guessing you are perfect. Most of us humans arent. She loved her family and did a lot for them. That is 10x more than many parents.
@@ducklingscap897 Ginny didn't get a dress in the book. In the books girls and boys alike have dress robes and her's is never discriped so we dont know how old or new it is. She may have woren her mother's old dress robes since she is the only girl. Ron's robe was maybe from some one else in the family. Also they are not poor they are lower middle class if you ask me. Even people of average middle class can struggle finacially from time to time esepcially if they have kids.
There are no perfect mothers, but Molly is about as close as you can get while being realistic
Molly is an awful mother. Is it beyond bounds of realism to NOT deny the existence of your children that you don’t deem worthy of it?
@@Road_Kill7 wait, when does molly deny the existence of her kids?
@@Road_Kill7 She never denied the existence of her children. She didn't even do that to Percy after he turned his back on them for a job.
@@quinintheclouds “Ron, you’re a prefect! That’s everyone in the family!” I think it was supposed to be a joke but like…
@@Road_Kill7Tbf Fred and George being prefects is so completely outlandish to point where the possibility wouldn’t have ever crossed her mind.
To be fair there is a trend of interpreting books as "good character actually bad, bad character actually good, you're just too blinded to see this".
Just read/watch most of the modern interpretations of the classics, like for example compare the Wicked Witch of the West in Wicked and in the original story. Or all Villain films of recent years.
Most of Molly hate is just trying to be edgy, or fit in with modern standards. That's why there aren't that many Molly bashing fanfiction on Ao3. Especially compared to the average fanfiction that mostly follows her original characterization.
Or why the couple of articles going full on "Molly is abusive" are mocked by huge part of the fandom.
You mean... Molly wasn't doing everything for Harry so he would marry Ginny (who is a nympho) just to seal Harry's money? Ron wasn't only pretending to be Harry's friend to push him to Ginny (and ride on Harry's coattails)? Molly wasn't using Love Potions to keep her hubby in line, to have Harry marry Ginny, and Hermione marry Ron? And Ron isn't going to end up being a Death Eater? Next you'll be telling me that Dumbledore isn't 'evil' and doing everything 'for the greater good'.
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I feel so lied to by the fandom...
I'm in the fandom a long ago and I never heard this theory
@@nicolasripoll7974...then you didn't read enough fanfics 😂
These things are sometimes fun reading but they annoy me most, I mean it is easy to understand why. With Dumbledore planning Harrys whole life out, Molly loudly saying _full of muggles_ (which I personally decided to believe was her trying to catch any Muggleborn... but I also believe that Hagrid just forgot telling Harry how to get to 9¾ so it's impossible to say what her reason was)...
Though there is no denying that Ginny was pretty obsessed with Harry and that Molly didn't do anything against it. Thank Tom that she stopped with her behaviour after the second book... and then started to have a bunch of boyfriends to try making Harry jealous.
...damn now I want to read the books again 😂
im so glad i stopped being obsessed with HP by the time i started reading fanfiction dam
Holy shit, this is it. The amalgamation of all the borderline braindead takes of the fandom.
Ironically the Malfoy’s inquired all of that wealth from muggles
WAY before the statute of secrecy was placed. 😅
Never in my life I have heard “defense of Molly Weasley” until rn. Ppl actually hate her?! That’s crazy. She’s amazing
Edit: not my daughter u b-
Molly is one of the most bashed characters in fan fiction :(
Not as much as Ron/Dumbledore/Snape bashing. But still pretty close.
I try to stay away from those fics, but usually they make her out to be money hungry and trying to dose Harry with love potions for Ginny. Really unfortunate.
Well my gf hates her for reasons other than fanfics. I don't get it either, but some people just don't like particular characters. Also my gf is kinda weird, because once i read a book in which character was just like her, the book was about magic, pirates and dragons, so all the things my gf loves, yet she didn't like a book and even more the character. So i guess people can surprise us with the things they like and hate
@@kokoswodofan6574 yea ik ppl got opinions I was js surprised cus ppl actually don’t like molly as a character-
@@RobustPhysicsok ok ok wait-what does “bashed” mean? Also isn’t it fake that Molly or Ginny gave Harry a love potion so Harry could fall for Ginny? Or did I miss smt in the books or series-
@@Angel_6791 Bashing, or character bashing, is when people make fan works (usually fan fiction) in which they display a lot of hostility against a character.
Basically, it is the author expressing their hate for a character by making a lot of bad things happen to them. Often times they will be portrayed extremely negatively, if not outright demonized with no redeeming quality.
Sometimes they exaggerate canon flaws, but often times they will make up stuff to make the characters even worse.
So no, there is no canon reason to believe Molly (or Ginny) ever tried to use love potions on Harry. Molly has no interest in Harry's money.
But when an author is bashing a character, they will make up fake reasons to hate the character even more. Usually as a way to justify making them suffer. Typically just public humiliation, but some stories will go as far as sending them to Azkaban or even killing/torturing them.
I try to stay away from those types of stories, even for characters I don't care for. The only type of character bashing I can tolerate is Umbridge bashing. But even then I have a limit.
Molly’s an amazing mother, and she has some real flaws like when she believes Rita Skeeter’s mean spirited gossip about Hermione, and when she spent a whole year trying to break up Fleur and Bill. Both are a result of overprotectiveness (and perhaps a bit of internalized misogyny). But that’s hardly going to make her deserving of a “bad mother” label and also I would like to burn every Weasley bashing fic with fire
I feel you on the state of that book though. When I was reading my parents’ copy of the Goblet of Fire in middle school, it literally broke in half and the librarian had to keep it overnight in order to put a plastic cover on it and fix it.
What is the problem with fanfic writers? They always write her being manipulative and trying to marry off Ginny the harlot to HP for his money. Who started that horrible fanfic trope
Because a lot of them probably have mommy issuest its pretty common because a lot of moms are manipulative and compete with their own daughters and always put them down being hyper critical. A lot of fanfic writers are young adult women or teen girls..those would be the prime ages were the mistreatment by their mother's would really be at full force. My own mother started really treating me terribly when I started puberty. I'd say people with these expireances either lash out on mother characters and make them evil to project their own moms or they make them their ideal mother figure to try and heal their inner child.
It one of my guilty pleasure. Though I would prefer the Weasley to be sidelined or ignored in fanfiction, they already received a lot of airtime in cannon. I don't hate Molly but don't like her either. It's not like they HAVE NO CHOICE but to have 7 children that they can't afford, so irresponsible. And the overly praising just rub people in the wrong way.
I've never seen Molly be a bad mom though? What because she yells at her kids when they f around? So what? More parents should be like her
When the Horcrux spoke about Ron being the least loved, that wasn't the truth it was his own insecurities being thrown back at him to make him angry and therefore easier to corrupt
Yes Molly loves Ginny, but she also loves her other sons and their vastly different personalities
Bill- dashing curse breaker
Charlie- the muscle that works with dragons
Percy- consummate perfectionist aiming to be better that his circumstances
Fred and George: The trouble makers
Ron: one of the few who gives her grief unless he's with the twins
Ginny: her only daughter who felt overshadowed by all of them because she's the only girl
And so what if she kept trying for a girl, did she stop the others from living their lives?
One breaks curses the other raises dragons, hardly the helicopter mother
I can see how he was jealous of Harry especially since Molly immediately began doting on him, but that was because she could see the neglect on his face,
And the fame thing wasn't even up to Harry and made it uncomfortable more times than it made him happy
But going back to Molly she was not a bad mom, she was the best version of "doing her damn best" with what she had
I mean, if anything, Molly main flaw as a mother is to be too loving and overbearing XD
Like, her children all did things to get far from her when they became adults, Charlie lives in Romania, Bill in Egypt, Percy breaks up with the entire family for two years (mostly because of Arthur though ^^), Fred and George breaka way from Hogwarts and go live on Diagon Alley, Weasley kids have to gain their independance through conflict it seems ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 well yeah but not really from anything she did specifically. She wanted the best for them and they went for it.
A curse breaker and a dragon tamer
Two very dangerous but prestigious jobs,
Fred and George, opened their own shop and had it thrive
Percy was the only one who seemed ungrateful, again not based on anything she did.
If she was so overbearing they wouldn't even go to see her at holidays or gatherings, respond to her invitations at all, plus they only had one house, of course they left to other places, otherwise it would be
Bill, Charlie, Percy, Fred and George, Ron and Ginny Mr and Mrs Weasley in one house, again not a sign she chased them out by being overbearing they could just be good kids, raised well and left to have their own lives so as not to place the responsibility of so many people on their mom
@@angelicafigueroa0221 "If she was so overbearing they wouldn't even go to see her at holidays or gatherings, respond to her invitations at all"
That's the thing with overbearing things, once they're not in your life everyday, they become much more bearable. And once they grew up, they also realized it was pure love and that they missed it ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 yuh huh, but again there's no indication she was overbearing. Like at all. She was a present mother. Name one thing that was overbearing
She destroyed her sons’ business, already up and running and had them watch her destroy the orders forms… that’s a bad mother.
I get that it’s hard to dream when you’re poor, but they weren’t doing anything wrong. Fred and George had a business, one that they already had going and she ripped it to shreds, in front of them!
"sorry for the trauma Fred and George"💀💀 it was one of the best and funniest lines from the series tho(especially George's reply)
Good lord Mikaila, please for the love of all things HP, use a Reparo spell on that poor book!!
I always saw the "thats everyone in the family now" as in everyone who *wanted* to be a prefect became one, all in the family, since Fred and Gorge very much never aspired it.
Mikaila should really try homemade bookbinding, It would really bring new life to her books
This feels a bit like a Snape's worst memory thing where people get a little enthusiastic with the read or take things an unreliable narrator says too seriously because of the whole fandom hot take culture that HP was one of the first major cross-media examples of. Twitter retcons aside Rowling isn't subtle about who's evil in her world, even in the later novels, because the Dahl-esque dry absurdity it runs on doesn't really leave much room for it.
9:02 I subscribed due to the state of your book❣️Great commentary. Looking forward.
I was not that bothered by the state of your books because my own copy of Sorcerer's Stone is only still "alive" by an ungodly amount of tape. 🤣🤣🤣😇😇😇
1:24 dont worry my sea of monsters book is exactly like that too.😅 Btw you do make fair points!
Yeah, we should stop blaming people for things that are out of their control. That is why I would not like my kids to be on school and instead teaching at home because school would traumatize them and then would be ME to blame and have to pick up the pieces.
These criticisms would make sense to come from like, idk, people who have watched a few/all the films once (barely paying attention), or never lived with/met a large, poor family.
A complete lack of understanding the subtext and just the general message of parts of the story or even normal human behaviour.
I think the main issue people have with it is that the weasleys aren't really a "poor" family. Many in the fandom believe that their poverty is entirely both Mr and Mrs Weasleys own fault as they kept trying for a girl, when if they had just stuck to having 1 or 2 children, those children would have grown up relatively comfortably. And when they ended up having more children Mr Weasley didn't have the ambition to get a better paying job to be able better support his family.
@@magicblaze1553 Being "poor" isn't dependent on WHY you have no money, it's that you have no money.
In the wizarding world there seems to be plenty that you can do with magic, especially household chores so if you're skilled enough, with a job I think you could make it fine just like they do. You'd still be poor though.
Honestly I thought that the Weasley's being poor because of their father was at times implied, and at other times explicitly stated, at least as an opinion from specific members of the family
@magicblaze1553 I mean yeah but also I was poor growing up and we didn't wear shabby clothes. Secondhand stores are full of really nice, decent clothes. Same with secondhand booksellers. Also what was she doing with all her time once Ginny went to school? Their priorities were crazy- a trip to Egypt, an owl for Percy, but Ron had a secondhand wand? And those ugly dress robes? Like cmon. School is usually expensive but once they went to school they had an enormous burden lifted off them with food prices. Also like I've bought my siblings textbooks. When I was in college, my aunt bought me textbooks on occasion as well. That's where I got the idea. Bill and Charlie, at least, then Fred and George could have chipped in a little
Why is it normal that you buy your son shitty second hand robes for a ball but your daughter who can’t even go to a ball unless specifically invited gets a nice new dress?
If that’s normal behavior to you then I‘d say you need to reflect on it
@@ducklingscap897 It's just kind of expected socially that a girl going to a fancy event must have a new dress to show up in. Don't ask me why, I'm not a girl.
For an equivalent though, guys are almost expected to show up to prom in their own car, no idea why and it's a weird tradition but it's still expected, at least in higher income areas
I wholeheartedly agree. Part of the books and the series is growing up, and growing up is realising the adults in our life are not perfect and make mistakes. As harry grew up without parents. For him that realisation came through Dumbledore and seeing a man he put at a pedestal as just human and capable of grave mistakes. Now Molly is flawed in some ways, but she is by no means a bad parent. She loves her kids to bits and would die for them. Like most parents she won't agree with her kids every decision and that's fine. And let's be honest, if Molly ever had any knowledge that Ron felt unloved and like he was less important that woman would have smothered him with love to death. Parents are not all knowing or perfect, and at no point would Molly ever make any choice that would directly lead to hurting her children. I mean, part of the reason Fred and George were confident enough to runaway from school was knowing that whilst their mum will lose her mind, she will also still love them to bits. No matter what. She gave the same allowance to Percy when he made what was probably his biggest mistakes of his life. Anyway, love your videos !
5:37 tax the Malfoy’s they don’t need all those peacocks 😂 I’m dying
I think feeling less loved than your siblings is kind of just a large family thing and not indicative of bad parenting. At any given point, parents are going to be prioritizing one child’s needs over another, just because they only have so much time and some needs are more urgent than others. When there are a lot of kids in the family, it can feel like you are chosen least, even if everyone is prioritized an equal amount of times. It’s just a feeling, and it doesn’t necessarily reflect reality.
Eh, I'm from a family of three kids, I'm pretty sure everyone of us three thought the other ones were more loved. It's just that humans, especially kids and teenagers, are selfish and would more remember the negative moments than the positive ones. So you remember more when you felt your parents were unjust towards you, than when you felt they were just.
Plus, you also probably feel like when they're just it's the normal situation, when they're unjust, it's an unforgivable fault ^^
Well Ginny was very clearly favored over Ron though 😅 that wasn‘t imagination. Ron got a shoddy second hand wand, Ginny got a new one, Ron got shoddy second hand robes for the Yule ball, Ginny got a new dress, Rom got a sweater in a color he hated every year, his other siblings got colors they liked etc.
@@ducklingscap897 She's a girl, of course she can't get the clothes her brothers passed on her ^^
And she probably got a new wand, because no one had any wand to pass her, Ron got Charlie's wand because Charlie graduated and bought a new one ^^
She loved ron so much that she let two of his friends come over and stay there all summer for years. It's never mentioned that other Weasley children invited their friends and had them stay over. She fed and loved RONS FRIENDS Harry and Hermione as her own children
Do I think Molly Weasley is a perfect mother? No,
Did she overall do well and raised 7 kids + Harry? Yes
Although if I remember correctly her and Ginny were a little rude to Fleur but I think that’s her like biggest fault lol
Please upload the fourth Percy Jackson book reading video 🙏🙏 it's what gets me through rough patches 😔😔
@magicbymikailaa Who are you, Mikaila*a* ?
She has seven kids, that's difficult, especially when the first one is known to make pranks on occasion, the second one liking Dragons, the third one being a stuck-up, two twins who have made more pranks in their lives than the joker, one who gets in trouble each year and one who is probably the most passed around girl in hogwarts (don't @ I like Ginny's character but we gotta be honest with ourselves), she treats an orphan like a son who basically gets tossed around like a punching bad, has a husband that's basically always in danger wether it's getting attacked by a snake, getting an inquiry at work or literally comitting a crime with a car. I'm surprised she even has time to make the damn dishes! Six boys, you wouldn't want a girl? That doesn't mean she hates them. She has to deal with two human jack-in-the-box and is trying to help them in life, EVERY PARENT DOES THAT.
Molly was the best mother❤ and that book looks like he had abusive parents been through five breakups been through war and back... That book is not ok
That part abt ron's dad was so true
My problem with the Weasley parents come from the single fact that they bought Percy an Owl instead of buying Ron a wand. Say whatever you will, but buying a son a gift when the other one doesn’t have a basic need (and yes, your own wand in the magical world is a necessity) is bad parenthood.
Oh its worse than that, they got Percy an owl AND new robes for becoming prefect, and when you realize Molly basically implied that Ron would get ONE gift for becoming prefect. There is nothing that even say's Percy spent his own money to get one of them or that he demanded two gifts, they made the choice to give him two, and there is also nothing indicating that one of them was a birthday present. Yeah, they are REALLY irresponsible with money and the signals they send out.
@1993digifan haha I just made a comment about this. What are they spending their money on that they're so broke? Once Ginny was 11, they were basically empty-nesters
@@xletragedyx Hogwarts might be extremely expensive, with only muggleborns getting in freely
This, yeah, ron had a lot of insecurity, but it did was because of his parents treatmente partly. they get percy gifts for being a prefecf while making ron use his brother's old and damaged wand. They do get ginny her own wand one year later, while ron spends the whole course using a broken one that could have killed him or someone else. In the fourth year they buy ginny , who can't even go to the yule ball unless invited by an older student, a new dress. While getting ron a horrible and old dress robes from a second hand store. Even tho he is going to the ball for sure. How is he not going to feel insecure?
@@nessyness5447 not just her, Fred and George also had normal robes. The reason why the fandom doesn’t love Molly is that unequal way of regarding her children.
I've seen my sentiment aired already in most comments.
My issue for me with Molly was her treatment of Hermione in fourth year. I get that she'd basically adopted Harry and Hermione was just Ron and Harry's friend, but Hermione was a child, a literal child.
That's what I can't get over. Even if we could rationalize her falling for the gossip that Rita wrote, the way she chose to act towards a child. That was vile.
Just saw your PoshMark commercial!!! What a performance ☺️
1:26 it was physically painful to watch you slam the two halves of your books together 😭😭
I can understand why some people don't like her and I can also understand the whole Weasley!Bashing... I mean with Ginnys obsession over Harry (let's be real she was obsessed and it definetly wasn't healthy), Rons extreme jealousy over everything else and Mollys attempt to force the twins to work in a normal job...
I mean Charlie and Bill literally left the country, after they finished Hogwarts, it is rather plausibel to say that they wanted to get away from Molly...
Molly Weasley is a mother who wants the best for her children... but there is no denying that she is overbearing. Can't say if it is a helicopter parent territory, but she definetly interferes more often then she needed to.
I like Molly simply because she is literally the only real mother figure Harry ever had and because she welcomed Harry into their home. But there is no denying that she isn't perfect, which I actually prefer. No-one is perfect and her having some small flaws make her good nature stand out even more, in my opinion anyway.
Ginny was not obsessed she just had a normal girl crush.
I think the occassions of true neglect towards Ron mainly
-ignoring him disliking maroon
-getting him an ugly robe while ginny gets a nice one
-not making sure he knows that he is special
Are mainly due to J.K wanting the conflict in there, regardless on whether it is constant with how she depicted Molly before .
@randomgirlvibes maybe not neglect..but if your christmas gift, year after year is a colour you can't stand, while your siblings get their colours..you might feel unimportant too..
@randomgirlvibes She was insensitive about the dress robes, though I’m sure that she’d probably been feeling stressed and overworked at the time. She knew what dress robes were supposed to look like, since she’d bought nice ones for Harry. It’s not her fault that she couldn’t afford better ones for her son, but I feel like she could have at least removed the lace.
Ginny might have gotten Molly's old one we don't know. It's only in the movie that she is wearing a dress. Also not remembering favourite or none favourite things is something that happnes in families with a lot of children. And sometimes parents just have troubles accepting things. you know how long it took my mother to accept that I don't like green no matter the shade? How often she suggested something greenish to me when we went shopping? It was annoying yes but honestly that was the smallest flaw my mother had. Also sometimes children change their taste unexpectetly or when they are older.
@@sawanna508 she must have had something to wear in the book, since she went .but then, maybe she ordered something once she was invited, who knows?
And yeah, with so many kids, it can happen, but the writing makes it seem as if it only happened with ron..she even remembers harry perfectly, which just makes it inconsistent
i've seen videos defending Ron but never Molly and i think they're really needed. I love your videos
I don’t think she’s a perfect mother, but she’s not a bad mom
One thing I didn't get about her, when I was reading books, is why she wasn't working. They struggled with money a lot, but she stayed at home, while all the kids were at school all year.
By the way, the thing with Dumbledore’s questionable decisions is not concealed in the book ! We get to see his flaws, his neglect towards his family, his selfishness because of his talent, and finally his regret, which are not really well shown in the movie
It's a thing, especially in fanfiction. Always disliked that take.
Molly isn't a bad mother, but I have gripes with her.
1. Never remembering Ron hates Marroon when Harry and the rest of the Weasleys get Sweaters that perfectly suit them. Ditto with the Dress robes 4th year.
2. Getting Percy new robes and an owl when Ron had a hand me down wand.
3. Believing Skeeter about Hermione.
Btw. About ships. While I dislike canon and like Harmony good enough in fics, my preference is platonic trio. None of the trio should have been romantically connected to each other.
2 was quite normal for families with a lot of children: Younger ones complain that they never get new stuff older ones complaning that the younger ones are allowed to to things much earlier then them. You don't waste something someone else could need in a familie like this. 1. That's something that happens in big familys as well. It is almost the same thing with confusing names when calling an individual. Also children sometimes change their habits. It took my mother years and year to accept that I don't like green for example.
Plus she'd survived a war and lost loved ones in it only to watch her kids grow up and throw themselves into winning another war that she thought had been resolved already. She's traumatised herself and trying to parent through her fear and unhealed trauma during a literal war. It says alot about her character that despite her fears she never once back out from a fight, or refused to let her family be part of the war effort, because while she was scared she was also well aware that doing nothing would be worse than trying to make improvements and that's an agonising thing to do as a mother, to let your kids take such risks while wanting to protect them.
0:48 'how does it feel to be emotionally stable' I JUST CANT-
Tbo, my 5th book looks similar. It's just because the the thickness of it doesn't correlates with the strength of the cover. You need to have hardcovers for larger books :(
This!!!! Mine too! I got hardcovers for 6th and 7th for that very reason
still waiting on your percy book reviews. cant wait to hear your thoughts on the last two. i found this series later in life to and honestly. im sad i hadnt read any of it sooner cause it wouldve been a favorite more then it is for me now
That is one well-loved book :D
Hi just found your channel👋 First I love how many different fandoms you talk about be it Harry potter, Doctor who or Percy jackson. FYI those three are my favourite lol. Second Molly Weasley is the GOAT of mothers in HP especially in the books. So kind to Harry and Hermione, she welcomes Harry into her family. I love the chapter early on in Order of the Phoenix when she argues with Sirius about to tell Harry about what the Order is up. The fact she wants to protect him and allow him to have a sense of normality and says Harry is "as good as" a son. This to a boy who experienced cruelty and neglect from his aunt and uncle. Molly Weasley deserves the world❤
I recently finished the series so I love this❤
1st of all. Molly Weasley is probably the best mother character I've ever read (maybe except for Sally Jackson) so I don't know why people say shes a bad mother. Also, i feel like ur reasoning makes so much sense. That's always how I read it as before
Also I've read Crying in H Mart before and its so good.
Honestly I love Molly she's such a iconic queen !
I don't agree with any of those criticisms. But she didn't she get a job after Ginny went to school? Why were all their secondhand clothes so shabby? Why didn't she mend their textbooks? She bought 7 sets of textbooks? What were they spending their money on that they were always broke?
Agreed. I feel some of the writing with Molly was inconsistent in terms of magic.
Most secondhand cloths are not descriped it's just mentioned they are hand-me-downs exept fro Ron's dress robe that was jsut old fashoned.The textbooks are more often descriped as shabby esepcially Ginny's but I am sure that it is impossible to mend things entlessly. If material is missing that may be something you can't fiy with a spell. Anyway Ginny is mentioned gluing one of her books not mending it magically. Molly's traum could be a reason why she didn't get a job or maybe she didn't GOT a job since she didn't work for so long and is by now a middle aged woman.
1:12 nooooo it’s not lmao, buying all the books, merch, ect lmao
Totally agree with all the points you touch on in the video, but I would like to add a couple of things. First, a family is a system of relationships; Molly is not solely responsible for her children’s feelings or traumas, especially when she hasn't overcome her own. From the beginning of the Weasley family's story, their decisions have been driven more by individual happiness than by the common good, which explains the children's feelings.
For example, Draco Malfoy deals with the rigid "family tradition" of being a Death Eater. The Weasleys are different. Arthur's job at the Ministry brings him satisfaction but not much money. Molly chose to stay at home to care for their children. This isn't to blame them but to show that their experiences during the first war led them to value happiness over economic stability. When Molly's brothers died, her older children were very young, likely causing insecurities in all her children. Ron's issues aren't because Molly makes him feel bad, but because he has five older brothers.
Bill and Charlie were talented wizards, prefects, and Percy’s ambition is likely driven by a desire to match them. It's like each sibling sets a higher bar, and when it's Fred and George's turn reject it, choosing their own path (same decision as Arthur in the beggining) despite staying at Hogwarts to not disappoint Molly. Leaving wasn't easy for them.
I want to defend Molly here. I don't think she doesn’t support her children; I think she's scared-scared that things will go wrong, that they'll lack a basic education, or that she'll lose them due to trauma. She also fears they might do something against their father or siblings in the Ministry. Let's remember that a large part of the scolding Ron gets when they take the flying Ford Anglia is because his father is facing an investigation. Yes, Ron could have literally died, but we are talking about Arthur's job being the family's livelihood. I'm sorry but I can't blame Molly for being scared.
Ron's case not only inherits all the family traumas but also faces bullying from his brothers, who sometimes lack empathy. With six brothers, Ginny should be more traumatized than Ron, but although the trauma is the same, their personalities are different. Ginny has had to prove is that she is good enough, being a girl. Because Molly wanted a girl, yeah. I bet she was her darling. But we also know that the girl would open the broom shed to train alone. I wonder why she'd to do it in secret.
We all have traumas. Molly, Narcissa, and even Lily Potter aren't perfect mothers. They are people doing the best they can. Saying Molly is a bad mother because she seems to give more affection to Harry than to Ron overlooks her empathy and deep understanding of both boys, as shown by her actions like the clocks.
@magicbymikailaa Sure! (and by the way, I don't know if it's intended, and it's not like 'Dearest gentle fan...' but my mind read it with Julie Andrews voice hahaha!)
Merlin’s Beard your outfit is gorgeous! Love your deep dives 😊😊
Saying she neglected Ron is weird given that he was the only child his parents allowed him to have his TWO best friends for the whole summer and other holidays, none of the other Weasley members had that privilege 😛
Maybe their friends have healthy family dynamics so they won't be going out of their way to avoiding their parents/guardians when on holiday.
I agree with everything you said. I think she's a great mother. However, there's a flaw of Mrs. Weasley that I can't help but hold against her when I reread the books. She can be a bit too quick to judge other women sometimes.
She judged her son's fiancé because Fleur is a gorgeous French girl and decided that she must be shallow and not good enough for her son. she passed on that mentality to Ginny too who could be pretty mean to Fleur. She judged Hermione, her son's best friend for several years, as promiscuous based off gossip rags by Rita Skeeter and treated her coldly the next time they met based off that judgement. That gives me the ick honestly lol
but I will say that she realized that she was in the wrong when it came to Fleur and changed her attitude afterwards and did the same once she realized that Rita is a liar. i wish there was a bit more reflection of where that treatment of women stems from but what can you do? JK isn't the person I'd want deconstructing internalized mysogyny anyways
1. My books look just like yours and I refuse to buy new ones.
2. Molly Weasley has flaws for sure (like when she sent Hermione a tiny Easter egg because she believed the gossip in Witch Weekly) and is overprotective, but that doesn't make her a bad mother--it makes her human.
That Order of the Phoenix copy looks EXACTLY like mine. The binding on that particular paperback is so weak, too many thick pages with thin glue and a flimsy paper cover. You wouldn’t be able to properly read through that copy and it not look like it’s been through a war zone.
I love the statue of your books. Made me genuinely smile. Lovely.
My initial split-second reaction to this title was "Why would Molly Weasley need to be defended? She killed Voldemort's most formidable lieutenant. She's one of the most powerful witches in the country." Then my brain kicked in, I watched the video, and...really?
I understand the arguments to some degree, but Mikaila's counters are spot on. Ron was certainly never neglected, and Molly was right to be worried about F/G. If not for the seed money from Harry, their business would not have grown anywhere near as fast. Molly also must have had serious concerns about F/G's magical skills as well, given their abysmal perfornance in school.
Oh, for Percy: the Imperius Curse. I will die on that hill. I do believe that his initial split from his family was real, but at some point, Percy was cursed. He had understandable concerns at first, but after the Ministry fell, there is no way that he'd turn against the man who saved his little sister's life in the Chamber of Secrets.
I don’t think Percy was imperiused, I think it was as he said in the reconciliation scene: he had realised he was horribly wrong, but had dug himself into this hole. There’s that scene of Percy and Mr Weasley being in the elevator together, and obviously both of them want to reach out but can’t. I think he genuinely just thought the bridge had been burnt and that there was no way back to his family. That doesn’t mean he was furthering the ministry’s interests once it had fallen - he got information about the Battle of Hogwarts incredibly fast, so I presume he must have had some kind of connections, and I think if he’d had the chance to help Harry after that point, he would have. In any case, imperiusing Percy to have a fallout with his family is quite pointless, as the only worth Percy has to the death eaters is that he’s a Weasley and thus could give information about the Order and about Harry. If he has no contact with his family, he’s quite pointless, really. He only kept his position because no one was very bothered about him or viewed him as a threat.
@@annakp5034 That's well written and argued. I prefer your explanation, actually. Now I feel a tad awkward about that hill.
I think a lot of Percy's attitude came from his frustration with his dad, who _is_ very talented, and could probably have gotten very high up in the Ministry if he'd tried, but that's not where his passion & joy are. I think Percy saw what his father did (or didn't do, in this case), but not the why, and so eventually he exploded.
But I think after being cut off from his family and seeing the dark turn the Ministry took helped him understand his parents' _why_, and I think that made a big difference in Percy coming 'round
Except fred and George actually got great marks in school.
@mlpfanboy1701 3 passing OWL's each, IIRC, compared to Ron's 7. Of course, that's less because of their skill and more because they didn't care about tests, but as a mom who is only getting their report cards, and knows what grades you _have_ to make in order to get a decent job, I can see why she would be worried.
Fred & George's path turned out perfectly for them, but as a mother watching from a distance, I can see why Mrs. Weasley is biting her fingernails
A part of Molly's character that lives in my head rent free is when she shows up to be Harry's family during the Tri Wizard Tournament. That part makes me cry. As someone who's had chosen family over blood family, it's really touching ❤
the Everything Everywhere All At Once thing is too accurate like I can't not rewatch it
People saying she neglected her own kids for harry is crazyyy. She never neglected her kids, she gave harry a little attention because she knew its what this isolated, traumatized, and abused child needed. Her taking care of a child thats not her own does not mean she neglected her own kids, shes shown to take great care of them!
Seeing you outside of Harry/Voldemort/Draco/Cho/Bella/Edward/Everyone else you play is such a surreal experience. I had to double check to make sure I was on the right channel because you look so different without the costumes.
Ron feel the elast loved... but in previous books, he also felt embarassed and awkward about his mother's affection (like most teenagers, that's normal ^^), so like, what was the goood parenting for him? XD
I don't think Ron felt the least loved. He only felt the expectations in a diffrent way turing the first year. I think every child has this primeval fear not to be loved somewhere deep inside because we are not able to survive as infants. That's the fear Tom/Voldemort tried to use against him as the Medallion.
I love the Pride element to the Leaky Con: Magic is cool but transphobia is not - thank you for recognizing that
This never came to my mind. She had to play strict parent, as Mr. Weasley was obviously relaxed parent. Considering the complicated situation she did really great job. Also, JKR knows this situation quite well, it is the reason why Molly is very realistic.
I just don't like how everyone kept saying the Weasleys were poor... They weren't. They were middle class average people who had trouble managing finances. Look at the logic, they win lottery, what do they do? Instead of using the money for things they actually need, they spend it all on a vacation to egypt... And then they go back to complaining how they are poor. Secondly, why have so many kids if you can't provide well for them? And third, Ron's idea of being poor is not having the best wizard robes and getting second hand books. That's not being poor. He gets full meals everyday, studies in the best wizard school, has a roof over his head... He's not poor.
Does make me wonder why Mollie didn't try to get a job after Ginny went to Hogwarts. The house would be empty. It would be the first time in years she didn't have kids for the majority of the year. Hell not even for the money just so she would be bored all day.
That is being considered poor in a developed country actually…. But you got. a point with the vacation-part
They are considered poor for what they are and that’s how they’re usually portrayed, especially in Britain. Also they spend that money to go to Egypt because that’s where their son Bill lived at the time.
@@foodieforyou3165 They went to visit Bill in Egypt, though. For a family as close-knit as the Weasleys, being that far away from Bill must have been really hard, especially for Ron & Ginny who were so much younger. I can also see them taking an approach of "We will always have expenses, but when else are we going to be able to give our kids the experience of traveling to see their big brother?" A bit of a "use it or lose it" mentality, and they _did_ get Ron a new wand
Their Vault is basically empty, with only a couple of sickles and knuts... a Galleon is 50 pounds (if I remember that fun fact correctly) meaning they don't even have 50 pounds in their bank account. I would call that poor, barely having enough money.
If you don't have any money you can't go on many vacations, having the whole family going on vacations is a huge thing for a poorer family and it isn't like they used all that money for it either way, I kinda doubt that they bought Ron a new Wand and then said _"and now we are poor again"_
Mr. Weasly is the only one supporting the family and decjdes to work in a position where he doesn't earn a lot. It's like being the only money maker in the family and only working as a janitor, while having to support your 7 kids.
I look forward to the Percy video. He is a character that I always felt was a little more harshly judged than I believe was necessary.
Is it just me or that fandoms tends to hate loving mothers? I've saw that in My Hero Academia where Deku's mom Inko was unfairly labeblled as "abusive" by toxic fans when Anko did nothing but love her own son and even supported his goals of being a superhero, despite not having a Quirk of his own.
How can anyone call Molly a bad mother when she looked after her 7 children with great care, treated Harry as one of her own when he lost his birth parents and was raised in an abusive household, and even killed fucking Bellatrix who nearly murdered her only daughter.
Molly is also one of the few positive parental figures in this whole series as she and her husband raised their kids with love and care.
Molly Weasley is the Best Mom in this series.
Yaasss. Pls more rants
I'm waiting for her to tackle Cursed Child
@@johnjankowski3739 oof.. that's going to be a rough one
As someone who has spent way to much money on Power Rangers action figures, a Tardis cookie jar, and multiple editions of the same books, I can safely say being a nerd is not free.
Whoa! Hold up... Someones saying crap about Mrs Weasley?! Who is it?? Let me at 'em!
Mr Weasley was there too !😅
Wasn't there a thing that her maiden name was part of the last dynasty. She was the last of her siblings. So when she married Arthur. She had many kids to continue her family line.