All of this is absolute facts. I haven't been able to stand Lebron since high school. He's always been a freakish athlete but an incomplete player to me. He has no post game, he lacks in fundamentals, his free-throw shooting as a superstar is abominable, his shooting as a whole is inconsistent and he's a poor on the ball defender. His stats are overrated because of how much the NBA has changed philosophically. We as a society have embraced a losers mentality when it comes to our athletes. We give out second-place trophies now when previously, the losers got no shine. In what world is a player considered the GOAT when he loses more than he wins? When he's constantly out-shined in big spots. How can a player be recognized as a player that makes others better, when his teammates are constantly singled out for under-performance? In what way does he make them better? Can someone please answer these questions?
I think Nick Wright has Shannon beat. It doesn't happen often but I've heard Shannon OCCASIONALLY criticize Lebron. I've NEVER heard Nick Wright do that.
Xavier Vega he's done it recently lol Nick Wright gave LeBron hell for "breaking his own hand" and bringing the cast out at the game 4 press conference.
That 2010 Celtics team gets so underrated these days. It wasn't just a big three superteam. It was a complete team - Pierce, KG, Ray Allen, Rondo, Sheed, Tony Allen. They would grind you down for 48 minutes. Absolutely beastly on defense. Not just the top ranked defense that year but one of the all time great defensive teams. And don't forget, this was the same team that made Lebron quit and take his talents to South Beach.
No Celtics were out of prime and Ray Allen became a liability on Defense and started to complain when the Celtics took him off the court in favor of Allen and Avery Bradley when those defensive grind moments of a game were needed. Always hated him for it cause the Media painted him as a victim when he had Jr/Melo mood swings but that fact got clouded when he went to Miami. Celtics fan here and I will tell you. Reason why Ainge went a younger route with this current team is because he doesn't want to have just 2-3 maybe seasons of championship contention with aging stars with injury being a real issue. So no the Celtics were never a super team just a team with a lot of grit, heart, and flare ups of talent. Just too old
True. Some of Shannon's fandom does seem like an act, but I've also noticed that more often than not he gets caught up emotionally to a feminine level when making his arguments, to the point of making high-pitched whooping noises like some swooning fangirl when LeBron's accomplishments are brought up. Nick Wright gets angry and personally offended when LeBron's failures are discussed, anytime someone offers even the smallest criticism, he gets triggered, and don't bring up Durant or the Warriors, he really goes off then. At least Shannon has his football knowledge to fall back on, Nick Wright's whole career was built on his LeBron fandom.
LeBum has done some amazing job of carrying his team, but other people have done it in better fashion. He has not done anything special. Some people think his 2007 Finals appearance was something unheard of, but this is not the case, especially considering that he had a top 5 defense in the league that year??. On top of that, Lebron in 2007 played in the weakest Eastern conference in recent memory?? He beat two .500 teams, the Wizards, with Arenas and Butler injured???????and the Nets, and the Pistons with no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace. There are several players I could replace LeBron with who would still make it to the Finals with that team in that weak conference, ??and quite a few who could have beaten the Spurs in the Finals with that 2007 Cavs squad. The fact that the Pistons made it to the ECF shows how weak the East was post-2006. The Pistons got rid of their best rebounder, rim protector, and overall defender (4x DPOY - tied for an NBA Record) and still had the Number 1 seed in the 2007 East ??and made the Conference Finals in 2008 while beating no notable teams. The 2007 Pistons were still top 2 in ppg allowed after losing Ben Wallace, but the 2006 Pistons allowed 1.6 less ppg than the 2007 team. However, this was due to the fact that the East had much weaker offensive teams than the West??with the East only having 1 team average 100+ ppg (Wizards) compared to the West's 8 teams with 100+ ppg. Only 20 of the Pistons' 82 games came against teams that averaged 100+ ppg for the season, so their defensive numbers post-Wallace don't accurately reflect the quality of their defense as they were playing sub-par offensive teams for over 3/4 of the season????????? On top of that, the 2007 East was weaker than the 2006 East as well, which is why LeBron was able to beat two 0.500 teams to make the ECF. Playing in a much weaker conference than the 2006 Pistons on top of playing the weakest teams in the league far more often allowed the 2007 Pistons to not suffer as big of a statistical drop-off in their defense following Ben Wallace's departure, though they fell from 64 to 53 wins. It is clear that the Pistons clearly missed Ben Wallace's presence when LeBron was waltzing down the lane at will in the 2007 ECF?? Not to mention they never made the Finals after their Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown left??It's not a coincidence that as soon as Brown left, the Pistons never made the Finals again after winning the title in 2004 and losing a close Game 7 in 2005 against the Spurs. The first year after Brown left, the Pistons went from shutting down Kobe to 38% ??in the 2004 Finals and Wade to 48% ??shooting in the 2005 ECF (pre-Game 5 injury) to allowing 62% ??shooting from Wade in the 2006 ECF under Flip Saunders. Add the departure of 4x DPOY Ben Wallace after 2006 and it's not that big of a deal to have beaten that washed up 2007 team. 2007 - Lebron has a top 5 Cavs defense that held down Duncan to 45% in Finals after 55% in regular season * Lebron beat bum 41-41 Wiz with no Arenas/Butler - injuries? * LeBron beat bum 41-41 Nets with post-injuries Vince Carter? * LeBron beat washed up Pistons who lost their best defensive player? * They got rid of 4x DPOY Ben Wallace before the season started, and who LeBron couldn't beat in 2006 when he was still on the team?? * The Pistons had the best record in the league in 2006, at 64-18. When Ben Wallace left and was replaced with post-ACL tear Chris Webber, they fell to 53-29. Talk about weak competition??????? * There's a reason the Pistons never made the Finals as soon as Hall of Fame Coach Larry Brown left after 2005, or without 4x DPOY Ben Wallace after 2006. Then LeBron got exposed by the only real team he played??the 2007 Spurs - 36% shooting, 6 turnovers a game, missed game-tying shot in Game 3,??and 2/6 FT in Game 4 ??as the Spurs only won by 1 point. The surprising thing is that 3 of the 4 games were decided by only single digits despite LeBron's poor play - thanks to the Cavs defense. Even Deron Williams averaged 26-4-8-2 on 53% against the same Spurs defense in the 2007 WCF??so there's no excuse for LeBron to have played as poorly. The only player who showed up for Deron Williams in that series was Carlos Boozer, and Boozer was only good because Williams created his offense for him. Boozer has only once averaged over 15 ppg in a playoff series without Williams, when he had 17 ppg against the 2013 Nets in the first round. LeBron wasn't really carrying 2003-2010 Cleveland when he led them in the playoffs. He just feasted on the weakest playoff teams ??while playing in Cleveland. When he played good playoff teams, he couldn't carry Cleveland anywhere. LeBron only beat one 50-win team?? in the playoffs during his time in Cleveland from 2003 to 2010, and that was against the 2007 Pistons with no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace and no HoF coach Larry Brown. Every other team he beat had less than 50 wins. LeBron's supposed ability to carry Cleveland only lasted in the regular season. As you can see, LeBron never was able to carry 2003-2010 Cleveland past any notable teams in the playoffs. This puts a HUGE asterisk next to the perception that he "carried" Cleveland, as he beat ZERO elite teams ?in the playoffs with Cleveland. He didn't carry them past anyone notable. People complained about how weak his 2003-10 Cavs team was, but the only competition that LeBron beat from 2003-10 was even worse bum competition. Even in Miami, his East competition was very weak, in 2013 for example he beat 0 50-win teams ?before making the Finals. LeBron has had it laughably easy in his era.???? For comparison - 27 of Jordan's 37 playoff opponents had 50+ wins (73% of them).?? - Kobe had to play four 50-win teams in each of the 2001, 2008, 2010 Playoffs?? - Hakeem had to play four 57-win teams in the 1995 Playoffs and 3 50-win teams in 1994 with 0 all stars / 0 Hall of Famers helping him in the 1994 run.?? Seeing as LeBron only beat one 50-win team with 2003-2010 Cleveland, and a very weak 50-win team as the Pistons had no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace and no Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown,???it's very safe to say that he would have never been able to carry Cleveland anywhere against real competition where the majority of playoff opponents had 50+ wins. On the other hand, it's safe to say that legends like Hakeem, Jordan, etc. would have had a much easier time carrying Cleveland against the weak playoff opponents LeBron faced??????? Kobe is at BARE minumim TOP 10, and the reason I despised Lebron so much is because he failed to fulfill the TRUE prophecy of facing Kobe in the finals in the 2009-2010 season. (This is something you don't hear alot, people always talk about Lebron's biggest shortcomings against the Dallas Mavs, but that's not his biggest shortcoming) It's actually him failing to beat the Orlando Magic to FINALLY FACE KOBE in the finals. In fact, they had a better record than the Lakers that season, and this bum loses to Dwight Howard??? (They were promoting Lebron and Kobe muppets, the media was so sure they were going to meet) After that, the Magic got handed a 4-1 L, but I lost alot of respect towards Lebron after that. Despite what stats say, I know for a fact Kobe IS better then Lebron, and had they met in the Finals, I gurantee the Lakers would've blasted them the same way they did the Orlando Magic, and the debate would finally be over between those two, because I could always say "Kobe beat Lebron in the finals" lol Stats w/o context is pointless, and that is what alot of this new generation of basketball fans don't understand. Stats don't measure Intagibles...
Apollo Skywalker If Kobe beat LeBron those 3 Finals, LeBron apologists would say he was young. And Kobe had Pau. As if Pau Gosal was some god level big man.
21:12 Here goes these LeBron fanboys with these same old arguments saying that the Celtics and Lakers and the Pistons got old during Michael Jordan's time, well Magic was MVP in 1990 and was second in MVP voting in 1991 the year Jordan beat them in the finals and was only 31 and Isiah Thomas was 31, Joe Dumars was 28 and Dennis Rodman was 29 in 1991 so they are old but LeBron beating Kevin Garnett at 35, Ray Allen at 36 and Paul Pierce at 34 is not old or losing Tim Duncan at 36, Manu Ginobili at 35 and Tony Parker at 31 in 2014 they are not old?
Facts here damn........ straight facts I always laugh at Shannon argument regarding Jordan cuz he sounds so dumb especially since he watched Jordan from 84
In the 2 seasons Kobe supposedly got "robbed " for regular season mvp , Steve Nash's Phoenix Suns beat Kobe's Lakers 4-0 and 3-1 during the regular season
I saw Kobe bring his team back from 25 down in Staples Center in around 2005.. I was there in person.. I have never seen a player, other than Jordan, just totally dominate and will a team to victory.. It's something to behold in person..
Kobe is arguably the most dominant personality in the history of the NBA. In that category he is right there with Jordan. Thanks for viewing the video.
Super Rud LeBron has run from playing defense for the past 6 seasons. It just hasn't been KD. He used to get his ass beat by Paul Pierce 😂😂😂😂 he couldn't guard Paul George either he got that assignment handed to the D Wade.
Angel H yeah but it was something that hit me the wrong way game 3 of the nba finals you down 2-0 kd tearin everybody else on your team up...and you send jr smith to guard kd? The guy everybody blaming for the game 1 loss? Smh lebron 9 or 10 now in my top 10
Super Rud bruh It had me upset 1 game. I was watching the Cavs vs the thunder and LeBron was "guarding" Andre Roberson. All he was doing was hovering around the rim while Paul George and Westbrook was giving them hell.
@@Adrian_37633 NBA Finals 2010 Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points NBA Finals 2013 Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Postseason gamewinning buzzer beaters LeBron 5 > Kobe 1 Kobe vs LeBron PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3PT%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron WS: LeBron PER: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Seasons avg +25 ppg LeBron 14 > Kobe 12 Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg LeBron 8 > Kobe 0 Seasons shooting +40% 3pt LeBron 1 > Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record 🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe according to yo logic 😂
I think Judah is on point about the culture of the channel. He's exposed the facade behind a lot of players the media thinks are greats like Westbrook, Melo, etc.
Chucky.. oh child, why couldn't the cavs make the finals with the best record? They were much better than the team that went to the finals and got swept against the spurs.. do you even comprehend what happen that year that even allow that whole thing to happen. And what happen during the two seasons the Cavs had the best record during the season? Everyone negates those years with Lebron is practically sickening.. Not even MJ or any great would go out like that.. smh
Dude what are you talking about I just mentioned the Cavs had a better record than the lakers and also not every team with the best record goes to the finals it still doesn’t excuse him for losing the way he did against boston
Hakeem Olajuwon had a total of ZERO HOFers in his first title run in the 1994 and he won them a title by beating Phoenix in the CF and then Knicks in the finals. As the sixth seed, Houston defeated Utah, Phoenix, San Antonio and the Penny and Shaq led Orlando Magic in the finals. Hakeem beat the likes or Barkley, Malone, Stockton, David Robinson, Dennis Rodman, Patrick Ewing, Penny Hardaway and Shaq and yet no one mentions , 'Hakeem carried his team'
Nick Wright is one hundred times worse than Leshannon. Half of the time i feel like hed just trolling and doesn't even believe half of the things that he says. Nick Wright actually believes the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. I honestly believe that the guy has a shrine dedicated to Lebron on his ceiling over his bed.
10:30 Dawg I’m not a Kobe fan but I can’t stand the 3-1 lead argument and the game 7 argument. Kobe shot under 20 shots 3-4 times in that 7 game series which helped get them that 3-1 lead in the first place. He dropped 50 in game 6 and they said u can’t win that way. He goes back to the way he was playing in the first 4 games which is distributer and they lose and now it’s he quit. I just don’t get that. They lost that series bc in the games they lost Odom and Walton didn’t play well and bc Mike D’Antoni actually made an in series adjustment that Phil had no answer for. He put James Jones into the starting lineup over Tim Thomas in game 5 I believe and they didn’t lose a game after that against the Lakers. I think they actually scored over 120 every game after that. Some blame goes on Kobe but that was on Phil, Kobe, Walton and Odom. Once again I could give a damn abt if Kobe deserved mvp or not that year but that series shouldn’t have factored in at all bc Steve Nash didn’t play anywhere near the level that Kobe did. He just clearly had the way better team.
The MVP doesnt mean the best player in the game and often enough doesn’t go to the best player either. That being said, that Phoenix suns team was WAY more talented then the Lakers were and ahead of their time as well interestingly enough.
The best Shannon Sharp impersonation on CZcams by far! Shit always cracks me up when I'm having a bad day. It's so dead on accurate it's not even funny.
I agree with you that the 2009 and 10 seasons are a better case for another KB mvp. But I think 2009 was Kobe’s last year of being the best player in the NBA. Also the 2003 season he could have gotten it when Shaq came in late in the season. That may have been his best year statistically as well
LeBron HEAVILY relies on his strength and athleticism. He has an inconsistent jump shot, no footwork, and his free throw shooting is terrible. People say that he's more efficient than Michael Jordan because he shoots above 50% but the majority of his points are within the paint, while MJ shot 49.7% from the field, while the majority of his points came from mid range. If Kobe had LeBron's body size, strength, and athleticism he would be even more unstoppable...I don't even want to imagine Jordan with LeBron's body. The thing is that LeBron could learn how to shoot better, improve his free throw shooting and be like Hakeem or Kobe in the post but he doesn't. Kobe and MJ knew their own flaws...once they weren't as athletic anymore they became deadly from the mid range. Once father time catches up, LeBron's gonna look silly
COJ u made a great point about JR being the one getting that rebound in game 1 of those finals when he is sg and LeBron is sf,why wasn't he the one in there tryna get that offensive rebound??great vid by the way!
By that definition he's only been to the Finals ONCE - 2007. Where is the 0-3 garbage coming from? Lebron has led his team every year except 2011 when Wade undisputedly led the team. 2012-2014 DWade turned the team over to Lebron but was still a powerful presence in the locker room so you can make arguments there as well. 2016 there is NO doubt Lebron led that team, only an absolute hater would argue otherwise. So that's at the very least 1 on the win column any way you slice it. Lebron has led his team to the Finals 8x has won 3 and lost 5. He was the biggest reason the Heat lost in 2011 but he wasn't leading the team at the time. That his how it is , no more, no less.
Xavier Vega I think he meant 2015 when Kyrie was hobbled throughout that playoff run. Plus him and kevin love we're both injured in the finals and didn't play I think that's the year he's referencing.
The Nash MVP thing has always been interesting to me given how non dominant he was numbers wise. both of his NBA seasons in which he won was done on AVGs of: 15PPG - 3RPG - 11APG and 18PPG - 4RPG - 10APG while being efficient as heck and his team getting the top seed in the west. Now I may ask in which era would those numbers given the context be deserving of “MVP”? Also remember how much of a defensive sieve he was. Peace
"Come on Skip mention Pau. Mention his ass because Kobe had help. That nigga had help. When is Bron gon get help?" The impersonations are hilarious 😂😂😂
12:47 I think this is the exact same reason why Michael Jordan doesnt go out of his way to talk about LeBron James, even though Kobe Bryant is just trying to relay to LeBron what Michael taught him in the late 90s and early 2000s as a big brother, LeBron James' plants in the media wants to view this as an attack or 'shade'
Boston had Tony Allen, James Posey and Allen to throw at you with Paul still there n rondo was no joke. If you got pass them you had KG waiting for you
They kept Kobe because Shaq was starting his decline and Kobe was just entering his prime.(Not to mention being cheaper) If Shaq had been the same age as Kobe Kobe's ass would have gotten shipped.
I believe the only reason Lebron went West was to avoid being 3-10 in the Finals. He is all about his image n is aware that would be a bad mark on his resume.
Smush Parker was good player from Brooklyn New York. Kobe Bryant was the biggest asshole to the man when all Smush wanted to do was go out there and play.
23:34 you know a person is desperate when people like to compare all time busts like Smush Parker and Kwame Brown to Kevin Love who is a 4-5 time All-Star and George Hill who was a starting point guard for Indiana Pacers during 2013 and 2014
The difference is, Lebron has a lot of say in who is on his team. Management would find a way once possible, to get him the players he wants. Kobe didn't have that privilege so if you want to call Lebron the GM, then he doesn't need to leave as much as a Kobe would have thought he needed to leave.
LeBron is lucky he lost to the Magic tbh cause they more then likely would have lost to the lakers and kobe stans would never let bron fans hear the end of it lol nor would lebron live with that
Bron wet the bed against Mavs and Kobe could D Bron and get in his head. Imagine 09 10 in finals against Kobe. Bron would ve crapped his pants. It took Bron 10 finals games to break 25 points
I find that funny considering Kobe was 6-16 vs Lebron lifetime. If anything Lebron would have been MORE confident against Kobe. And you seem to be forgetting Kobe wet the bed vs. The Mavs before Lebron did. Got his ass SWEPT as a defending champion
2008 season January 27 Cavs 98 Lakers 95 LeBron 41 points Outplayed Kobe 33 points LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game 2010 Season December 25 Heat 96 Lakers 80 LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points Outplayed Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points 2013 January 17 LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points Outplayed Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points In this game LeBron 25 shots 17 makes Kobe 25 shots 17 missed Stats in career meetings LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg Kobe 24 ppg and 42% fg LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings LeBron James been making this overrated brick layer his bitch since 2003 😂
Davion Rison I get that I have always argued Lebron got a way lesser talented team to better regular season records than Kobe s loaded teams. You guys are stating regular season stats yeah I agree but he could hit shots in Kobe face during regular season than got D'd up by 37 yr old jason Kidd jason Terry and jj barea to the tune of 17ppg you guys boy Bron is a choker. Man went in with a prime Wade Bosh mike Miller and lost to Dirk Kidd Chandler and 34 jason Terry get over it Kobe Odom Gasol Bynum fish Ariza or Artest would have embarrassed him he knew it that's why he lost to Dwight Hedo and skip and than gave up against Boston following year than choked against Dallas
Couldn’t agree more with chronicles here..... Kobe was more of a drill sgt under the leadership of Phil. We saw once Phil left it took Kobe a while before he reached the finals again. LeBron biggest flaw is he refuses to be properly coached and it is more and more clear with how coaches are replaced for other ppl he deems as “pushovers”. Because Lebron demands a lot of attention both on and off the court. So his team doesn’t have much of a chance to grow within a real system due to the fact that they are apart of the “LeBron” machine.
I got a lot of love for your point of view brother. I do think your view of Westbrook is not through the look of context he isn’t just a shot jacking brick layer. Brother his is a top 25 all time in my opinion and if he gets a trophy he will climb fast
I guess I’m a so called Kobe fanboy, but I agree that LeBron is light years ahead of Kobe (anyone)Physically. I will also say that mentally it is not even a contest with Kobe having the edge.
Kobe Bryant screwed himself out of 8 or 9 championships that’s why. The way he drove Shaq out and lost against the pistons and Celtics first time around
My all time favorite NBA players are Jordan and bird. Killers. Assassins. It's the mentality that I appreciate more then anything else. ( if I could have watched bill Russell I might throw him in there).
Damn Joy! “Shay” and “Skilp” got on suits and this chick got on a tank top. It’s a miracle that they didn’t keep starring at them tig ol bitties! It’s a trap!
So the Lakers missed the playoffs because Kobe missed 30 games? Ok we can agree on that! And why did Kobe PLAYOFF performance have to do with regular season MVP?
+ChroniclesOfJudah 144 I wished you did a video about Nick Wright detonating on Kobe and how it cannot be LeBron's fault and Kobe and Michael Jordan had bad shooting nights
Harden showed us that the media picks MVPs. MVPs ain't that valuable. The media can change the criteria anyway they want. Now players voted MVPs should hold more weight.
Dirk Nowitzki was robbed of the MVP in 2006, not Kobe or Shaq. Dirk had one of his best individual seasons and the Mavs won 60 games. The Pheonix Suns only won 54 games that season.
Ok but getting bounced out of the first round by an "8th" seed isn't really a good look? Baron Davis got in that ass boy. Dirk will most be remembered for Sweeping the defending champion Lakers and destroying Lebron's "Super" Squad in 2011
Creative Concept It was a bad matchup. The Mavs lost all their regular season games to that Warriors team that season as well . It happens. Denver knocked out the Sonics in the 1994 playoffs when Seattle had the #1 seed in the West. In any case, I fail to see what that has to do with my point, because MVP is for the regular season and the Mavs lost to the Warriors in 2007, not 2006!
cyber6sapien Lol so the Lebron led Miami Heat didn't over match them? He got it done anyways. Match ups only go so far. It's about how well you play and how well you think in the heat of the moment. And I never spoke on any direct date, that was you. I'm starting my own point saying it doesn't matter how good you are unless you WIN. "Should of" MVPs are irrelevant man
Creative Concept I fail to see how your point is relevant to what I stated. BTW, Dirk lead the Mavs to the Finals in 2006 without another All Star player. Steve Nash didn't do this and neither did Kobe. Shaq had Dwyane Wade on his team. Harden won MVP this year and failed to lead his team to the Finals. So my point that Dirk deserved MVP in 2006 stands, even if you want to bring in playoff performance into the equation. Matchups ARE relevant once you understand the game. In the 1990s there were about 4 teams in the Western conference constantly battling for supremacy: The Rockets, the Suns, the Jazz and the Sonics. Kenny Smith has gone on record on NBA Open Court, stating that the Sonics had the Rockets number. The Rockets were fortunate that the two years that they made it to the Finals, they didn't matchup with the Sonics in the Western conference.
All of this is absolute facts. I haven't been able to stand Lebron since high school. He's always been a freakish athlete but an incomplete player to me. He has no post game, he lacks in fundamentals, his free-throw shooting as a superstar is abominable, his shooting as a whole is inconsistent and he's a poor on the ball defender. His stats are overrated because of how much the NBA has changed philosophically.
We as a society have embraced a losers mentality when it comes to our athletes. We give out second-place trophies now when previously, the losers got no shine. In what world is a player considered the GOAT when he loses more than he wins? When he's constantly out-shined in big spots. How can a player be recognized as a player that makes others better, when his teammates are constantly singled out for under-performance? In what way does he make them better? Can someone please answer these questions?
Black Bull so funny no one has answered your questions.. Because they can't lol. Great comment
Really good comment
The answer to your questions are, he cannot. Simple as that
Now here is a man with brains in his head! I've stated the same things you have and all I get are chirping birds. Bravo!!!
Black Bull Great response my brother
Im Dead your Shannon Sharp voice is scary dead on. Lmao
He sound like the Grandmother from Nutty Professor too...
I think Nick Wright has Shannon beat. It doesn't happen often but I've heard Shannon OCCASIONALLY criticize Lebron. I've NEVER heard Nick Wright do that.
Correct.
Xavier Vega he's done it recently lol Nick Wright gave LeBron hell for "breaking his own hand" and bringing the cast out at the game 4 press conference.
Agreed plus Shannon appears to be joking 20 percent of the tikme where Nick Wright really believes his idiotic thinking
Yeah a good 20% of the time I think Shannon is trying to troll Skip (and vice versa)
fact about nick wright
Sorry but i cant trust a 50 year old man who wears a pattern jacket, bow tie and nerdy glasses.
That 2010 Celtics team gets so underrated these days. It wasn't just a big three superteam. It was a complete team - Pierce, KG, Ray Allen, Rondo, Sheed, Tony Allen. They would grind you down for 48 minutes. Absolutely beastly on defense. Not just the top ranked defense that year but one of the all time great defensive teams. And don't forget, this was the same team that made Lebron quit and take his talents to South Beach.
Xibalba nice point
Xibalba agreed 2008 Celtics > warriors people forget how good Kevin Garnett was and ray Allen is better then Klay Thompson
jessie urena idk about them being better than the warriors tho but i see your point.
No Celtics were out of prime and Ray Allen became a liability on Defense and started to complain when the Celtics took him off the court in favor of Allen and Avery Bradley when those defensive grind moments of a game were needed. Always hated him for it cause the Media painted him as a victim when he had Jr/Melo mood swings but that fact got clouded when he went to Miami. Celtics fan here and I will tell you. Reason why Ainge went a younger route with this current team is because he doesn't want to have just 2-3 maybe seasons of championship contention with aging stars with injury being a real issue. So no the Celtics were never a super team just a team with a lot of grit, heart, and flare ups of talent. Just too old
BeastMode 21 they were never a superteam? The ‘08 team says otherwise
LMAO 😂😂 " look like a dam Uber driver'
True. Some of Shannon's fandom does seem like an act, but I've also noticed that more often than not he gets caught up emotionally to a feminine level when making his arguments, to the point of making high-pitched whooping noises like some swooning fangirl when LeBron's accomplishments are brought up. Nick Wright gets angry and personally offended when LeBron's failures are discussed, anytime someone offers even the smallest criticism, he gets triggered, and don't bring up Durant or the Warriors, he really goes off then. At least Shannon has his football knowledge to fall back on, Nick Wright's whole career was built on his LeBron fandom.
yup.
I think shannon is more of a d rider on bron than nick wright is.
This comment is 5 years old and Shannon is still the same 😅
LeBum has done some amazing job of carrying his team, but other people have done it in better fashion. He has not done anything special. Some people think his 2007 Finals appearance was something unheard of, but this is not the case, especially considering that he had a top 5 defense in the league that year??. On top of that, Lebron in 2007 played in the weakest Eastern conference in recent memory??
He beat two .500 teams, the Wizards, with Arenas and Butler injured???????and the Nets, and the Pistons with no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace. There are several players I could replace LeBron with who would still make it to the Finals with that team in that weak conference, ??and quite a few who could have beaten the Spurs in the Finals with that 2007 Cavs squad. The fact that the Pistons made it to the ECF shows how weak the East was post-2006. The Pistons got rid of their best rebounder, rim protector, and overall defender (4x DPOY - tied for an NBA Record) and still had the Number 1 seed in the 2007 East ??and made the Conference Finals in 2008 while beating no notable teams.
The 2007 Pistons were still top 2 in ppg allowed after losing Ben Wallace, but the 2006 Pistons allowed 1.6 less ppg than the 2007 team. However, this was due to the fact that the East had much weaker offensive teams than the West??with the East only having 1 team average 100+ ppg (Wizards) compared to the West's 8 teams with 100+ ppg. Only 20 of the Pistons' 82 games came against teams that averaged 100+ ppg for the season, so their defensive numbers post-Wallace don't accurately reflect the quality of their defense as they were playing sub-par offensive teams for over 3/4 of the season?????????
On top of that, the 2007 East was weaker than the 2006 East as well, which is why LeBron was able to beat two 0.500 teams to make the ECF. Playing in a much weaker conference than the 2006 Pistons on top of playing the weakest teams in the league far more often allowed the 2007 Pistons to not suffer as big of a statistical drop-off in their defense following Ben Wallace's departure, though they fell from 64 to 53 wins. It is clear that the Pistons clearly missed Ben Wallace's presence when LeBron was waltzing down the lane at will in the 2007 ECF??
Not to mention they never made the Finals after their Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown left??It's not a coincidence that as soon as Brown left, the Pistons never made the Finals again after winning the title in 2004 and losing a close Game 7 in 2005 against the Spurs. The first year after Brown left, the Pistons went from shutting down Kobe to 38% ??in the 2004 Finals and Wade to 48% ??shooting in the 2005 ECF (pre-Game 5 injury) to allowing 62% ??shooting from Wade in the 2006 ECF under Flip Saunders. Add the departure of 4x DPOY Ben Wallace after 2006 and it's not that big of a deal to have beaten that washed up 2007 team.
2007 - Lebron has a top 5 Cavs defense that held down Duncan to 45% in Finals after 55% in regular season
* Lebron beat bum 41-41 Wiz with no Arenas/Butler - injuries?
* LeBron beat bum 41-41 Nets with post-injuries Vince Carter?
* LeBron beat washed up Pistons who lost their best defensive player?
* They got rid of 4x DPOY Ben Wallace before the season started, and who LeBron couldn't beat in 2006 when he was still on the team??
* The Pistons had the best record in the league in 2006, at 64-18. When Ben Wallace left and was replaced with post-ACL tear Chris Webber, they fell to 53-29. Talk about weak competition???????
* There's a reason the Pistons never made the Finals as soon as Hall of Fame Coach Larry Brown left after 2005, or without 4x DPOY Ben Wallace after 2006.
Then LeBron got exposed by the only real team he played??the 2007 Spurs - 36% shooting, 6 turnovers a game, missed game-tying shot in Game 3,??and 2/6 FT in Game 4 ??as the Spurs only won by 1 point. The surprising thing is that 3 of the 4 games were decided by only single digits despite LeBron's poor play - thanks to the Cavs defense. Even Deron Williams averaged 26-4-8-2 on 53% against the same Spurs defense in the 2007 WCF??so there's no excuse for LeBron to have played as poorly. The only player who showed up for Deron Williams in that series was Carlos Boozer, and Boozer was only good because Williams created his offense for him. Boozer has only once averaged over 15 ppg in a playoff series without Williams, when he had 17 ppg against the 2013 Nets in the first round.
LeBron wasn't really carrying 2003-2010 Cleveland when he led them in the playoffs. He just feasted on the weakest playoff teams ??while playing in Cleveland. When he played good playoff teams, he couldn't carry Cleveland anywhere. LeBron only beat one 50-win team?? in the playoffs during his time in Cleveland from 2003 to 2010, and that was against the 2007 Pistons with no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace and no HoF coach Larry Brown. Every other team he beat had less than 50 wins. LeBron's supposed ability to carry Cleveland only lasted in the regular season.
As you can see, LeBron never was able to carry 2003-2010 Cleveland past any notable teams in the playoffs. This puts a HUGE asterisk next to the perception that he "carried" Cleveland, as he beat ZERO elite teams ?in the playoffs with Cleveland. He didn't carry them past anyone notable. People complained about how weak his 2003-10 Cavs team was, but the only competition that LeBron beat from 2003-10 was even worse bum competition. Even in Miami, his East competition was very weak, in 2013 for example he beat 0 50-win teams ?before making the Finals. LeBron has had it laughably easy in his era.????
For comparison
- 27 of Jordan's 37 playoff opponents had 50+ wins (73% of them).??
- Kobe had to play four 50-win teams in each of the 2001, 2008, 2010 Playoffs??
- Hakeem had to play four 57-win teams in the 1995 Playoffs and 3 50-win teams in 1994 with 0 all stars / 0 Hall of Famers helping him in the 1994 run.??
Seeing as LeBron only beat one 50-win team with 2003-2010 Cleveland, and a very weak 50-win team as the Pistons had no 4x DPOY Ben Wallace and no Hall of Fame coach Larry Brown,???it's very safe to say that he would have never been able to carry Cleveland anywhere against real competition where the majority of playoff opponents had 50+ wins. On the other hand, it's safe to say that legends like Hakeem, Jordan, etc. would have had a much easier time carrying Cleveland against the weak playoff opponents LeBron faced???????
Kobe is at BARE minumim TOP 10, and the reason I despised Lebron so much is because he failed to fulfill the TRUE prophecy of facing Kobe in the finals in the 2009-2010 season. (This is something you don't hear alot, people always talk about Lebron's biggest shortcomings against the Dallas Mavs, but that's not his biggest shortcoming) It's actually him failing to beat the Orlando Magic to FINALLY FACE KOBE in the finals. In fact, they had a better record than the Lakers that season, and this bum loses to Dwight Howard??? (They were promoting Lebron and Kobe muppets, the media was so sure they were going to meet) After that, the Magic got handed a 4-1 L, but I lost alot of respect towards Lebron after that. Despite what stats say, I know for a fact Kobe IS better then Lebron, and had they met in the Finals, I gurantee the Lakers would've blasted them the same way they did the Orlando Magic, and the debate would finally be over between those two, because I could always say "Kobe beat Lebron in the finals" lol
Stats w/o context is pointless, and that is what alot of this new generation of basketball fans don't understand. Stats don't measure Intagibles...
Apollo Skywalker If Kobe beat LeBron those 3 Finals, LeBron apologists would say he was young. And Kobe had Pau. As if Pau Gosal was some god level big man.
Apollo Skywalker hell yeah I agree with everything you said
Facts
agreed on all points
Apollo Skywalker can't take you serious calling this man a bum ..just another kobe fan boy
21:12 Here goes these LeBron fanboys with these same old arguments saying that the Celtics and Lakers and the Pistons got old during Michael Jordan's time, well Magic was MVP in 1990 and was second in MVP voting in 1991 the year Jordan beat them in the finals and was only 31 and Isiah Thomas was 31, Joe Dumars was 28 and Dennis Rodman was 29 in 1991 so they are old but LeBron beating Kevin Garnett at 35, Ray Allen at 36 and Paul Pierce at 34 is not old or losing Tim Duncan at 36, Manu Ginobili at 35 and Tony Parker at 31 in 2014 they are not old?
Amazing points!! No one mentions this!
Facts here damn........ straight facts I always laugh at Shannon argument regarding Jordan cuz he sounds so dumb especially since he watched Jordan from 84
In the 2 seasons Kobe supposedly got "robbed " for regular season mvp , Steve Nash's Phoenix Suns beat Kobe's Lakers 4-0 and 3-1 during the regular season
No LeShannon they are sick of this lebron propaganda u and the media have gone with.
I saw Kobe bring his team back from 25 down in Staples Center in around 2005.. I was there in person.. I have never seen a player, other than Jordan, just totally dominate and will a team to victory.. It's something to behold in person..
Kobe is arguably the most dominant personality in the history of the NBA. In that category he is right there with Jordan. Thanks for viewing the video.
Who was he playing also was it a playoff game, finals or regular season game?
I saw him lose a 25 point lead in the NBA Finals as well brother...peace
They won 66 games in 08. I’m a Warriors fan but that Celtics team would’ve gave us hell .
Lebron ran from KD on defense...that drops him on my alltime list...im definitely taking Kobe
Super Rud LeBron has run from playing defense for the past 6 seasons. It just hasn't been KD. He used to get his ass beat by Paul Pierce 😂😂😂😂 he couldn't guard Paul George either he got that assignment handed to the D Wade.
Angel H yeah but it was something that hit me the wrong way game 3 of the nba finals you down 2-0 kd tearin everybody else on your team up...and you send jr smith to guard kd? The guy everybody blaming for the game 1 loss? Smh lebron 9 or 10 now in my top 10
Super Rud bruh It had me upset 1 game. I was watching the Cavs vs the thunder and LeBron was "guarding" Andre Roberson. All he was doing was hovering around the rim while Paul George and Westbrook was giving them hell.
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NBA Finals 2010
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
NBA Finals 2013
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Postseason gamewinning buzzer beaters
LeBron 5 > Kobe 1
Kobe vs LeBron
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3PT%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
WS: LeBron
PER: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Seasons avg +25 ppg
LeBron 14 > Kobe 12
Seasons avg +25 ppg on +50% fg
LeBron 8 > Kobe 0
Seasons shooting +40% 3pt
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
🐐Jordan > LeBron > Kobe
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg most missed shots ever and 3x sidekick isn't top 9 all time player
Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings
If having more team award rings means better player Pippen better than Kobe according to yo logic 😂
Kent Case that has nothing to do with the original comment
I think Judah is on point about the culture of the channel. He's exposed the facade behind a lot of players the media thinks are greats like Westbrook, Melo, etc.
His Shannon Sharpe impersonation is hilarious 😂 😂 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 “skiiiiiupppppp” “Kobe look like a Bird” “lemme tell ya somn Kobe” love how you make receiving knowledge entertaining
He said Tyron look like an Uber driver hahaha dayum
“I know you wanna take it to the hole but godamn” IM DEAD😂😂😂😂
The Cavs had the best record in 2010 better than the lakers Cavs won 61 games lakers won 57
Mr KingDooms Who won the Championship that year? Oh okay, thought the Lakers did
Beet Beet I'm saying that to say,The Lakers had the better season. Fuck having a GD season record if you don't win the ring
Chucky.. oh child, why couldn't the cavs make the finals with the best record? They were much better than the team that went to the finals and got swept against the spurs.. do you even comprehend what happen that year that even allow that whole thing to happen. And what happen during the two seasons the Cavs had the best record during the season? Everyone negates those years with Lebron is practically sickening.. Not even MJ or any great would go out like that.. smh
Dude what are you talking about I just mentioned the Cavs had a better record than the lakers and also not every team with the best record goes to the finals it still doesn’t excuse him for losing the way he did against boston
Hakeem Olajuwon had a total of ZERO HOFers in his first title run in the 1994 and he won them a title by beating Phoenix in the CF and then Knicks in the finals.
As the sixth seed, Houston defeated Utah, Phoenix, San Antonio and the Penny and Shaq led Orlando Magic in the finals. Hakeem beat the likes or Barkley, Malone, Stockton, David Robinson, Dennis Rodman, Patrick Ewing, Penny Hardaway and Shaq and yet no one mentions , 'Hakeem carried his team'
Nick Wright is one hundred times worse than Leshannon. Half of the time i feel like hed just trolling and doesn't even believe half of the things that he says. Nick Wright actually believes the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. I honestly believe that the guy has a shrine dedicated to Lebron on his ceiling over his bed.
Wright even had the nerve to call himself "the smartest basketball analyst"
10:30 Dawg I’m not a Kobe fan but I can’t stand the 3-1 lead argument and the game 7 argument. Kobe shot under 20 shots 3-4 times in that 7 game series which helped get them that 3-1 lead in the first place. He dropped 50 in game 6 and they said u can’t win that way. He goes back to the way he was playing in the first 4 games which is distributer and they lose and now it’s he quit. I just don’t get that. They lost that series bc in the games they lost Odom and Walton didn’t play well and bc Mike D’Antoni actually made an in series adjustment that Phil had no answer for. He put James Jones into the starting lineup over Tim Thomas in game 5 I believe and they didn’t lose a game after that against the Lakers. I think they actually scored over 120 every game after that. Some blame goes on Kobe but that was on Phil, Kobe, Walton and Odom. Once again I could give a damn abt if Kobe deserved mvp or not that year but that series shouldn’t have factored in at all bc Steve Nash didn’t play anywhere near the level that Kobe did. He just clearly had the way better team.
Michael Vick at the end of the day Kobe didnt deserve it either and that's what yall dont want to admit.
jeremiah walker Dropped 50 in game 6
Cory Masters deserve what?
Gemini The Great And u think that’s Kobe’s fault? Or is it bc his team was dog shit
The MVP doesnt mean the best player in the game and often enough doesn’t go to the best player either. That being said, that Phoenix suns team was WAY more talented then the Lakers were and ahead of their time as well interestingly enough.
Actually the 2007-2008 Celtics were 66-16
A coach named Tyronn Lue, nigga look like a uber driver . Bro them Shannon impersonations are hilarious 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The best Shannon Sharp impersonation on CZcams by far! Shit always cracks me up when I'm having a bad day. It's so dead on accurate it's not even funny.
Shannon is Lebron's pops I see many similarities in facial structures and Shannon is protecting his son.
"Tyron Lue look like an Uber driver" i'm dead 🤣🤣💀💀 allegedly!!
That line about Ty Lue looking like an Uber driver...🤣🤣🤣
I agree with you that the 2009 and 10 seasons are a better case for another KB mvp. But I think 2009 was Kobe’s last year of being the best player in the NBA. Also the 2003 season he could have gotten it when Shaq came in late in the season. That may have been his best year statistically as well
How can I take Sharpe seriously when he looks like he raided Steve Urkel's closet?
"Nigga look like a uber driver" 😂😂
My man ced that T-Lue look like an Uber driver - I'm done! ! 😁😄😂🤣
Rip Kobe
Love your shannon sharp impersonation
I’m here for the Shannon voice over !! Funny shit .. keep it up
Lebron could slap Shannon Sharpe's lady right in her face and Shannon would yell at his lady what did you do to anger Bron!
LeBron HEAVILY relies on his strength and athleticism. He has an inconsistent jump shot, no footwork, and his free throw shooting is terrible. People say that he's more efficient than Michael Jordan because he shoots above 50% but the majority of his points are within the paint, while MJ shot 49.7% from the field, while the majority of his points came from mid range. If Kobe had LeBron's body size, strength, and athleticism he would be even more unstoppable...I don't even want to imagine Jordan with LeBron's body.
The thing is that LeBron could learn how to shoot better, improve his free throw shooting and be like Hakeem or Kobe in the post but he doesn't. Kobe and MJ knew their own flaws...once they weren't as athletic anymore they became deadly from the mid range. Once father time catches up, LeBron's gonna look silly
What’s your view on Lebron right now currently in year 21 ?
COJ u made a great point about JR being the one getting that rebound in game 1 of those finals when he is sg and LeBron is sf,why wasn't he the one in there tryna get that offensive rebound??great vid by the way!
Kendrick Perkins is going to sign to clutch sports as a lebron's body guard HAHAHAHAHAHA
Na he is apart of klutch sports now 😂
I'm a country white boy from Texas and I like your content bro. That Shannon impersonation had me dead .
The Celtics hurt the chances of repeating by not resigning Tony Allen.
There was nothing to figure out for Kobe after Shaq left. Kobe played with Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, and Kwame Brown.
When LeBron leads a team to the finals his record is 0-3
LOL what the hell are you talking about? Lebron has led his team to EVERY Finals except 2011 (Wade led the team that year)
Xavier Vega when it's just him with no other super stars 2011-14 he had D wade and Chris Bosh 16 and 17 he had Kyrie and Kevin Love
By that definition he's only been to the Finals ONCE - 2007. Where is the 0-3 garbage coming from?
Lebron has led his team every year except 2011 when Wade undisputedly led the team. 2012-2014 DWade turned the team over to Lebron but was still a powerful presence in the locker room so you can make arguments there as well. 2016 there is NO doubt Lebron led that team, only an absolute hater would argue otherwise. So that's at the very least 1 on the win column any way you slice it.
Lebron has led his team to the Finals 8x has won 3 and lost 5. He was the biggest reason the Heat lost in 2011 but he wasn't leading the team at the time. That his how it is , no more, no less.
Xavier Vega I think he meant 2015 when Kyrie was hobbled throughout that playoff run. Plus him and kevin love we're both injured in the finals and didn't play I think that's the year he's referencing.
Side note: Joy Taylor looking like a snack lol. Guess she had a date after the show
he said Ty Lou looks likes a Uber driver XD
'' We had a nigga named Tyrone Lue'' lmaoooo
14:39 these Shannon Sharpe impersonations are classic
The Nash MVP thing has always been interesting to me given how non dominant he was numbers wise. both of his NBA seasons in which he won was done on AVGs of: 15PPG - 3RPG - 11APG and 18PPG - 4RPG - 10APG while being efficient as heck and his team getting the top seed in the west. Now I may ask in which era would those numbers given the context be deserving of “MVP”? Also remember how much of a defensive sieve he was. Peace
"Come on Skip mention Pau. Mention his ass because Kobe had help. That nigga had help. When is Bron gon get help?"
The impersonations are hilarious 😂😂😂
Good video. Listened while I shaved, now my lines are fucked. Had me rolling
12:47 I think this is the exact same reason why Michael Jordan doesnt go out of his way to talk about LeBron James, even though Kobe Bryant is just trying to relay to LeBron what Michael taught him in the late 90s and early 2000s as a big brother, LeBron James' plants in the media wants to view this as an attack or 'shade'
And I think Kobe was a sacrifice because lebron passed him then out of nowhere he died it's crazy if you really pay attention
Boston had Tony Allen, James Posey and Allen to throw at you with Paul still there n rondo was no joke. If you got pass them you had KG waiting for you
Wow!! LeShannon James was super emotional that day. He doesn’t get that triggered when people talk about him. His man worship for Lebron is on 1000
that skip impression is pure gold
Kobe won both with and without Shaquille. Magic never win without Kareem. Lebron needed to stack teams in order to win
Joy Taylor sends me to the sunken place
Bruh I come on your Channel and subscribed because I value your input. I believe I can learn from from your wisdom. Also like NBA
God Bless
Kobe asked to be traded b4 Shaq was but they kept the best player lol bcz I know y'all gone hate.
They kept Kobe because Shaq was starting his decline and Kobe was just entering his prime.(Not to mention being cheaper) If Shaq had been the same age as Kobe Kobe's ass would have gotten shipped.
I believe the only reason Lebron went West was to avoid being 3-10 in the Finals. He is all about his image n is aware that would be a bad mark on his resume.
Wilkyns Nova Thank you my thoughts exactly
Wilkyns Nova Plus he doesn't want to lose against Kyrie Irving in the East...
Josh thank you
Josh he already owns Kyrie lmfao
23 Activated u sound like a fool KYRIE DELIVERED THE CHIP TO THE LAND REMEMBER
A damn uber driver 😂😂
Bro, this was too funny. You should do an entire video intimidating this country bunkin. Good video!
Shannon Sharpe is funny as fuck! 🤣😂🤣😂
Did anyone really think the Cavs would beat the warriors. Kobe never quit 👀
“Uber driver” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wen u do Shannon voice, that shit funny as hell.
Smush Parker was good player from Brooklyn New York. Kobe Bryant was the biggest asshole to the man when all Smush wanted to do was go out there and play.
Bron as a big forward compared to Smith as a guard should have been rebounding that free throw traditionally
23:34 you know a person is desperate when people like to compare all time busts like Smush Parker and Kwame Brown to Kevin Love who is a 4-5 time All-Star and George Hill who was a starting point guard for Indiana Pacers during 2013 and 2014
The difference is, Lebron has a lot of say in who is on his team. Management would find a way once possible, to get him the players he wants. Kobe didn't have that privilege so if you want to call Lebron the GM, then he doesn't need to leave as much as a Kobe would have thought he needed to leave.
LeBron is lucky he lost to the Magic tbh cause they more then likely would have lost to the lakers and kobe stans would never let bron fans hear the end of it lol nor would lebron live with that
Michael
Kareem
Bill Russell
Larry
Wilt
Jerry
Shaq &
Tim interchangeably
Labron
Hakeem interchangeably
Lol said [Tyrone LUe] he look like a Uber driver
Bron wet the bed against Mavs and Kobe could D Bron and get in his head. Imagine 09 10 in finals against Kobe. Bron would ve crapped his pants. It took Bron 10 finals games to break 25 points
I find that funny considering Kobe was 6-16 vs Lebron lifetime. If anything Lebron would have been MORE confident against Kobe.
And you seem to be forgetting Kobe wet the bed vs. The Mavs before Lebron did. Got his ass SWEPT as a defending champion
2008 season January 27
Cavs 98 Lakers 95
LeBron 41 points
Outplayed
Kobe 33 points
LeBron James hit shot in Kobe Bryant face to ice game
2010 Season December 25
Heat 96 Lakers 80
LeBron 8-14 fg and 5-6 3pt for 27 points
Outplayed
Kobe 6-16 fg and 1-3 3pt for 17 points
2013 January 17
LeBron 17-25 fg for 39 points
Outplayed
Kobe 8-25 fg for 22 points
In this game
LeBron 25 shots 17 makes
Kobe 25 shots 17 missed
Stats in career meetings
LeBron 28 ppg and 47% fg
Kobe 24 ppg and 42% fg
LeBron 16-6 owns Kobe Bryant ass in 22 career meetings
LeBron James been making this overrated brick layer his bitch since 2003 😂
Davion Rison I get that I have always argued Lebron got a way lesser talented team to better regular season records than Kobe s loaded teams. You guys are stating regular season stats yeah I agree but he could hit shots in Kobe face during regular season than got D'd up by 37 yr old jason Kidd jason Terry and jj barea to the tune of 17ppg you guys boy Bron is a choker. Man went in with a prime Wade Bosh mike Miller and lost to Dirk Kidd Chandler and 34 jason Terry get over it Kobe Odom Gasol Bynum fish Ariza or Artest would have embarrassed him he knew it that's why he lost to Dwight Hedo and skip and than gave up against Boston following year than choked against Dallas
Xavier Vega team vs team. You Lebron fanboys don’t know anything but stats
Couldn’t agree more with chronicles here..... Kobe was more of a drill sgt under the leadership of Phil. We saw once Phil left it took Kobe a while before he reached the finals again. LeBron biggest flaw is he refuses to be properly coached and it is more and more clear with how coaches are replaced for other ppl he deems as “pushovers”. Because Lebron demands a lot of attention both on and off the court. So his team doesn’t have much of a chance to grow within a real system due to the fact that they are apart of the “LeBron” machine.
I got a lot of love for your point of view brother. I do think your view of Westbrook is not through the look of context he isn’t just a shot jacking brick layer. Brother his is a top 25 all time in my opinion and if he gets a trophy he will climb fast
I guess I’m a so called Kobe fanboy, but I agree that LeBron is light years ahead of Kobe (anyone)Physically.
I will also say that mentally it is not even a contest with Kobe having the edge.
Kobe Bryant screwed himself out of 8 or 9 championships that’s why. The way he drove Shaq out and lost against the pistons and Celtics first time around
Shannon give it up bruh 😭
My all time favorite NBA players are Jordan and bird. Killers. Assassins. It's the mentality that I appreciate more then anything else. ( if I could have watched bill Russell I might throw him in there).
Judah I hear ya, but God damn Joy is bad asf😨😂... But yea um, Bron fanboys should critique there goat more...IMO ..
Damn Joy! “Shay” and “Skilp” got on suits and this chick got on a tank top. It’s a miracle that they didn’t keep starring at them tig ol bitties! It’s a trap!
So the Lakers missed the playoffs because Kobe missed 30 games? Ok we can agree on that! And why did Kobe PLAYOFF performance have to do with regular season MVP?
This is my new favourite channel
How many eyes wide shut parties do you think these ppl have a year?
I'm thinking about 9
Kobe would have never had a chance to make his case for mvp in 06’ during the playoffs because the votes put in before the playoffs stats
Yo Judah the ‘08 Celtics went 7 with the Hawks and Cavs, then 6 with the Pistons and Lakers.
Shannon Sharpe’s niche is amusing he’s one of my favourite actors to just listen talk his bullshit.
+ChroniclesOfJudah 144 I wished you did a video about Nick Wright detonating on Kobe and how it cannot be LeBron's fault and Kobe and Michael Jordan had bad shooting nights
Harden showed us that the media picks MVPs. MVPs ain't that valuable. The media can change the criteria anyway they want. Now players voted MVPs should hold more weight.
Mvps do hold weight since NBA media votes for them and i rather player not vote since they have biased
Judah acknowledged joy 😂
Lebron never made anyone better. I don’t remember one player that he turned into an all star. He does the opposite. He makes players regress
carlos bodan Mo Williams
@@memcrew1 Bwahahahaha, a nothing player who made 1 all-star team and had a nothing career. Wow, good job LeBron. You did SO much for Mo Williams.
Judah went for Bron throat lol
Even if LeBron play with Phil Jackson i don't he could play in that system because he wants to and Phil can control LeBron who knows
This is the biggest crock of expletive I've ever heard.
I swear this nigga Shannon voice remind me of Uncle Ruckus....sheiiit, im bout to watch boondocks righ now
Everybody forgets the Lakers were in 1st place in the West when they traded for Pau. 1st place!!! With the likes of Kwame and Smush!!!
Lol this kid is the G.O.A.T. of trolling😳
Dirk Nowitzki was robbed of the MVP in 2006, not Kobe or Shaq. Dirk had one of his best individual seasons and the Mavs won 60 games. The Pheonix Suns only won 54 games that season.
Dirk had a good argument for league MVP that yr.
Ok but getting bounced out of the first round by an "8th" seed isn't really a good look? Baron Davis got in that ass boy. Dirk will most be remembered for Sweeping the defending champion Lakers and destroying Lebron's "Super" Squad in 2011
Creative Concept It was a bad matchup. The Mavs lost all their regular season games to that Warriors team that season as well . It happens. Denver knocked out the Sonics in the 1994 playoffs when Seattle had the #1 seed in the West. In any case, I fail to see what that has to do with my point, because MVP is for the regular season and the Mavs lost to the Warriors in 2007, not 2006!
cyber6sapien Lol so the Lebron led Miami Heat didn't over match them? He got it done anyways. Match ups only go so far. It's about how well you play and how well you think in the heat of the moment. And I never spoke on any direct date, that was you. I'm starting my own point saying it doesn't matter how good you are unless you WIN. "Should of" MVPs are irrelevant man
Creative Concept I fail to see how your point is relevant to what I stated. BTW, Dirk lead the Mavs to the Finals in 2006 without another All Star player. Steve Nash didn't do this and neither did Kobe. Shaq had Dwyane Wade on his team. Harden won MVP this year and failed to lead his team to the Finals. So my point that Dirk deserved MVP in 2006 stands, even if you want to bring in playoff performance into the equation. Matchups ARE relevant once you understand the game. In the 1990s there were about 4 teams in the Western conference constantly battling for supremacy: The Rockets, the Suns, the Jazz and the Sonics. Kenny Smith has gone on record on NBA Open Court, stating that the Sonics had the Rockets number. The Rockets were fortunate that the two years that they made it to the Finals, they didn't matchup with the Sonics in the Western conference.
Uber driver lmaoo