In flight Beta Descent and Approach, Pilatus Porter PC-6 Papua Indonesia.

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  • I’m a JAARS Pilot Mechanic with YAJASI serving in Papua Indonesia. This video is all about in flight beta descents and approaches. The Pilatus Porter is one of the rare airplanes approved for in flight beta descents.
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Komentáře • 99

  • @kentwilliams4152
    @kentwilliams4152 Před 3 lety +11

    Great! Thanks much. It is sad that Pilatus Porter has been discontinued . Great aircraft indeed!

  • @heavyDriver320
    @heavyDriver320 Před 2 lety +6

    That's super impressive, never knew the PC6 had such capabilities..

  • @MorrisseysMonkey
    @MorrisseysMonkey Před 2 lety +7

    What a workhorse the Porter is!

  • @jdeandresarp
    @jdeandresarp Před 4 lety +10

    please, dont stop to make this kind of videos

  • @audaxxx4202
    @audaxxx4202 Před 3 lety +5

    I was skydiving a few years ago in Chambery, France and the pilot always managed to land before us after we'd jumped out. Never seen it since and now I know why, he was flying one of these.

  • @AlfredoRavanello
    @AlfredoRavanello Před 6 měsíci +1

    Fantastic! Now I gonna try the same in my Flight Simulator... Wish me luck! Thanks for the video!

  • @slkgeothermal
    @slkgeothermal Před 2 lety +1

    I am a skydiver and jump pilot, the Pilatus is one of my favorite jump planes. I love your videos keep up the great work.

  • @gaetanstiker5679
    @gaetanstiker5679 Před rokem +1

    Ok! Thank you for the great demonstration of the flight beta descent!

  • @Charles-so6uf
    @Charles-so6uf Před 4 lety +8

    Great Beta explanation, thanks from an Xplane Pilatus PC-6 pilot.

  • @madmikemackas
    @madmikemackas Před rokem +1

    Wow. That’s legit. Amazing work

  • @Tiltrotor86
    @Tiltrotor86 Před 4 lety +9

    Very cool, thank you for time and effort !
    I would add that certain riggings requires to momentarily lift off the PCL into reverse to correctly enter in flight Bêta range, as not a Pil' is the same as another and some are rigged so mildly they would never enter it below 60 IAS. Some skydive PC-6s I flew were so aggressively rigged on the PCL cam and Beta valve that they entered Bêta as fast as 110 IAS in cruise and you litterally were stopped in mid air.
    The lifting detent is just a mark on the full PCL range after all, you can also manipulate PCL forward of the detent with the lever pulled up, and badly rigged you could even have reverse without going into that " visual " reverse range of the quadrant. I'm sure you know all of it already as a Pilot and Mechanic, it was more to add more details for other readers about the particularities of the PC-6 Bêta.
    Safe flights !

    • @LiberTY7416
      @LiberTY7416 Před 4 lety

      Indeed. I made it a habit to test the point the prop goes into beta whenever I first fly a particular PC-6 or after maintenance. At altitude or early in the approach to avoid surprises near touchdown. Every operator or maintenance company seems to have a different take on the rigging. I prefer it to enter beta at beginning of the white arc (85-95kts) with the PCL at the stop.
      For skydiving we by the way almost never use beta descents. Our default is PCL idle, Np 1700RPM and 130kts. Is a bit nicer for the neighbors and less vibration on the airframe. Honestly do not think it is significantly slower.

  • @stephenellis4392
    @stephenellis4392 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting. I think I will enjoy your CZcams videos.

  • @roryhollins4675
    @roryhollins4675 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi from South Africa, probably the best Beta decent video I have ever seen, Pilatus could use this as their training video, you Sir are a master and an excellent Pilot, it is rare to experience an Pilot as accomplished as you are yet still maintaining the basics and being as professional as you. Keep up the good flying, I have subscribed and will be a loyal follower as well as get some of that merchandise ordered from you. Cheers & keep it real, Rory

  • @AspiringMP
    @AspiringMP Před rokem +1

    Amazing! Got my heart going...I can't wait to do that.

  • @oldsurfknotts
    @oldsurfknotts Před rokem +1

    Enjoy the commentary, especially that about beta

  • @davidpaull2605
    @davidpaull2605 Před 4 lety +1

    Brings back happy memories of my days in the mid 1970's.
    Thank for the trip down memory lane.

  • @aprianto1985
    @aprianto1985 Před 10 měsíci +1

    So informative

  • @rpaddict5285
    @rpaddict5285 Před 4 lety +2

    You deserve so many more subscribers

  • @G4Disco
    @G4Disco Před 3 lety +2

    I would love to fly one of these. There is just something about them.

  • @jeffsohilait9651
    @jeffsohilait9651 Před rokem +1

    Nice video, sir.

  • @AirstripBum
    @AirstripBum Před rokem +1

    Good landing! New sub here.

  • @jxk4500
    @jxk4500 Před 2 lety +1

    woah that last landing was whack! got adrenaline behind my seat

  • @flyalaska254
    @flyalaska254 Před rokem

    Very nice done...You will like the PC6 on 35'inc tires🥰

  • @terryc47
    @terryc47 Před 4 lety +1

    Thankyou, great explanation. The altitude meter certainly helped to explain a lot to a novice. Appreciate the video.

  • @BOBANDERSON5150
    @BOBANDERSON5150 Před 3 lety

    AWESOME explanation of Beta Decent. Thanks for sharing your videos.

  • @davidgiles9751
    @davidgiles9751 Před rokem +2

    Great description and demonstration here! Former E model USAF Herk driver here who's very impressed with the Porter's capabilities.
    PS: Thought you'd be interested to know that there are two Porter models (a default version and a payware version) available in the new MSFS2020, and some of those "simmers" are using your video as a tutorial for it.

    • @Danko05
      @Danko05 Před rokem

      That´s right...!!! You caught us hehehe... 😁😁😁

  • @patshes1951
    @patshes1951 Před 2 lety

    Never knew this is how its done. Very good!

  • @davidkitchingman2222
    @davidkitchingman2222 Před 5 měsíci

    You showed at the end a beta approach into omban strip.Do you have a video showing a departure out of omban airstrip ? That would be interesting to see .

  • @timkiwi
    @timkiwi Před 4 lety +2

    would love to see a picture of your checklist switches. great idea. right trim for go round same same.

    • @ZehrAir
      @ZehrAir  Před 4 lety

      Ok, I'll post a pic of it for you.

  • @abhishekw2444
    @abhishekw2444 Před 11 měsíci

    Wow, awesome piloting skills

  • @vftsdorado9528
    @vftsdorado9528 Před 2 lety

    Wow beautiful stuff. Bush flying can be really interesting.

  • @warwickchristian5682
    @warwickchristian5682 Před 2 lety

    Awesome..!

  • @isaiahsmith4925
    @isaiahsmith4925 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, absolutely amazing!

  • @donnygustian6707
    @donnygustian6707 Před rokem

    awesome

  • @Chikyel
    @Chikyel Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you , very instructive.

  • @Sk1nSz
    @Sk1nSz Před 2 lety

    Beautifull aircraft... Im mesmerized by it

  • @munckmb
    @munckmb Před 3 lety +1

    That was an awesome demo and explanation! Thanks man!

  • @TheFrankyYou
    @TheFrankyYou Před 2 lety

    wow

  • @hofsve771
    @hofsve771 Před 3 lety

    wow, very impressive stuff, with very good explanations ! Thx for your great work !

  • @gregornorton6380
    @gregornorton6380 Před 3 lety +1

    Outstanding!!

  • @heinkuipers1899
    @heinkuipers1899 Před 2 lety

    Nice Flying! Impressive approach with Beta! Great instruction/info. Fly safe!
    I am an airline pilot and our operation is quite different 😁.

  • @LiberTY7416
    @LiberTY7416 Před 4 lety +3

    As said before: Good work. I have taken the Porter to some of the European altiports like Courchevel, but this is another level. Also really like your organizations safety culture! Your charts are top notch, way better than what exists for most altiports here.
    I noticed that you guys have your ignition on for landing, which is not something I see mentioned in my AFM. But in this rather unforgiving terrain I can totally understand why you would want that added layer of safety. One question there: do you notice any increased wear on the ignitors by doing this?

  • @Destroyer-zv2qp
    @Destroyer-zv2qp Před 4 lety

    Estos aviones son una hermosura por su alto desempeño en diferentes misiones y poder de carga...trabaje 20 ais de mis 23 en la fuerza aérea de México y aún siento esa adrenalina de los ascensos en máxima potencia y descensos beta son ya chulada, saludos!!!...

  • @irk72ag
    @irk72ag Před 4 lety

    Very rare content. Thank you very much! It was interesting.

  • @timkiwi
    @timkiwi Před 4 lety

    these are very good videos your producing. Beta works great in the standard Van. 90 kts 20 flaps 30 degrees pitch and spiral down threw a small whole in the cloud. it was part of my mountain flying training in the 206 (flight idle) back in NZ. my 1st step is always to Bug the escape.

  • @GrantBaker
    @GrantBaker Před 3 lety

    Great video! When you started the beta descent, my ears automatically started feeling like they needed clearing. 😂

  • @grantmiller6570
    @grantmiller6570 Před 4 lety

    That was very informative, thanks, still need the engine noise though, it adds that extra immersive touch to videos like these.

  • @tac-cobserver3788
    @tac-cobserver3788 Před 2 lety

    Awesome flight... thanks for the knowlegde 🤙

  • @PeterNGloor
    @PeterNGloor Před 6 měsíci

    reverse prop is also to taxi backwards..

  • @hduphdup4643
    @hduphdup4643 Před 3 lety

    very clear,FULL!

  • @Danko05
    @Danko05 Před rokem

    Awesome video...!!!

  • @donaldholman9070
    @donaldholman9070 Před 4 lety

    Awesome. Thank you.

  • @jamesbooth2634
    @jamesbooth2634 Před rokem

    I jumped a Pilatus in Issaquah Wash. The plan was like an elevator.

  • @SurfCityVideo
    @SurfCityVideo Před 4 lety +1

    That is some macho flying.

  • @saptoutomo4333
    @saptoutomo4333 Před 3 lety

    Amazing 💪👍🏻❤️

  • @jonathanmartin5128
    @jonathanmartin5128 Před 4 lety

    Keep those videos coming!!

  • @ohanailo7743
    @ohanailo7743 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if the German Lufftwaffa, “Stuka Dive Bomber,” had the same Beta feature? It almost seemed as I was watching your decent through the clouds it had a dive bomber feel to your decent. Nice landing.

  • @markslandingsandaviationvi3123

    Can i see the cockpits of these planes at this airport? Can i see the cockpits in flight as a passenger? I really love aviation and i tried to fly three different planes like the Piper PA28 Arrow in Denmark, Aeroprakt A32 (Newest version) also in Denmark my home country and a Cessna 206 Stationair in Alaska. It was amazing! Now I’m 15 and I still love aviation. I flew when i was 13 and up to now 15:)

  • @jasonroberts5001
    @jasonroberts5001 Před 3 lety

    Never gonna forget when I went to Omban

  • @kentwilliams4152
    @kentwilliams4152 Před 3 lety

    Love it!

  • @bootsequence2098
    @bootsequence2098 Před 4 lety

    Nice work on the video Zehr Air !

    • @ZehrAir
      @ZehrAir  Před 4 lety

      Thanks bootsequence, you should put some of your Saab vids on your channel. :)

    • @bootsequence2098
      @bootsequence2098 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ZehrAir i went to insta for that ;-)

  • @GiuseppeSRedSky
    @GiuseppeSRedSky Před 3 lety +1

    Just subscribed :)

  • @rotax912
    @rotax912 Před 3 lety

    I take my hat off!!!!

  • @vianhariyanto2690
    @vianhariyanto2690 Před 4 lety

    Mantap👍👍

  • @JW-gb6hq
    @JW-gb6hq Před 3 lety

    👍

  • @user-rd1vb6lc6w
    @user-rd1vb6lc6w Před rokem

    Доброго времени суток. Подскажите пожалуйста вы перед посадкой тягу thrust только на idle ставите, после посадки только ручку с reach на idle переводите?

  • @abduljabar8445
    @abduljabar8445 Před rokem

    0:47 why on earth you show the actual beta descent at the beginning?

  • @dundisdundat7022
    @dundisdundat7022 Před 2 lety

    Can you please explain to my what the -25% prop control would be used for and what situation ? Thanks

  • @dusk2dawn2
    @dusk2dawn2 Před 11 měsíci

    How much was your pitch down?
    We could do 6000 ft/min at 270 KIAS - full speedbrakes and gear down ~ 9.5 deg nose down in the 767 :-)

  • @spambuster
    @spambuster Před 2 lety

    I've gotten emails from recruiters mentioning JAARS. Is that the organization that wants volunteers for everything from pilots, dispatchers and mechanics to DO's and DOM's?

  • @dundisdundat7022
    @dundisdundat7022 Před 2 lety

    And also what's the code for the strip at the end please e

  • @alesserfate
    @alesserfate Před 2 lety

    Nice video, what was the point of the initial steep beta descent from 10k down? It didn't look like there was any serious terrain and 4k fpm on the vsi could hurt passengers who are not used to that kind of descent rate. I can understand it on an approach with an obstacle but don't see why you would descend so steeply while you could have easily done a cruise descent in the present situation.

    • @colins2
      @colins2 Před 2 lety

      It was a demonstration! The captions stated that they don't do it with passengers.

  • @juanfdoarango
    @juanfdoarango Před rokem

    Hello, what is that track, for my fs2020

  • @terryterry1655
    @terryterry1655 Před 11 měsíci

    pilatus still supporting porter with regards to spare parts?

    • @ZehrAir
      @ZehrAir  Před 8 měsíci

      They are not making new porters but are still supporting parts.

  • @davidstockman1456
    @davidstockman1456 Před 2 lety

    Audio is a little loud

  • @daniell1869
    @daniell1869 Před 3 lety

    What is the long horizontal row of switches on top of the dash?

    • @ZehrAir
      @ZehrAir  Před 3 lety +2

      Its a checklist. All up before takeoff, all down before landing.

    • @daniell1869
      @daniell1869 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ZehrAir awesome! thanks for responding. that's such a unique way to do a checklist. Maybe I'll strap one of those on to my little SR22 :D

  • @xviii4eva
    @xviii4eva Před 2 lety

    this is a bit tame, we used to descend the porter vertically using reverse. you need to go past the gate to get it into beta

    • @ZehrAir
      @ZehrAir  Před 2 lety +3

      Reverse, coming over the gate in flight is not approved. Beta starts at idle, in the porter its flat pitch at the stop / gate. I have seen people use reverse in flight and read plenty of accident reports that makes "tame" just fine with me.

  • @ThatGuysProject
    @ThatGuysProject Před 4 lety

    is this strip marked with an identifier? would love to fly that approach in a sim to see if i could land without bending the aircraft

  • @usafmd1
    @usafmd1 Před 2 lety +1

    Why not let those people worship their own god(s) rather than imposing yours on them?

  • @wallywally8282
    @wallywally8282 Před rokem

    Not good for the ears!