Free Heat True or False
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Is it true, can you really heat your home for free? Come along as I share some tips to save money on your heating bill this winter. Showing how I fire the potbelly stove and the Brunko wood furnace.
My Grandpa had a pot belly stove in living room. Always warning me don't get near the stove. They also have cook stove in kitchen with a hand pump at the sink. We had to take water out of the cook stove to do dishes in a gray enamel dish pan. Good memories.
Yep. Sounds a lot like Belmont County in Ohio. My wife's grandparents didn't even have indoor plumbing. All the water had to be carried uphill from the crick. They had a good crick that always ran all summer. I loved hearing those stories. Makes me want to go back in time.
Same here, I sure miss those days!
I'm only 32 but the beautiful thang about your story on how you used to do thangs is you didn't know any different that's how it was done simple. Nowadays kids wouldn't make it. I love a wood stove
Fire management is best way to get maximum heat and save wood. As a kid I remember my grandmother tending the fire most all day and if you pay attention to an older person running a fire there is definitely an art to it
Weve always used a combination of our wood stove and conventional heater. Since i retired early, i use my wood stove mostly. I find a fire to be good company. :)
Absolutely. Nothing like it and that heat goes into those bones.
Oh also I sure miss that pot belly stove. We use to burn coal in ours when I was younger.
Thank you for the information. I love the workout cutting firewood.
Me too! People ask me how often I go work out. I just laugh
Burn coal in your coal stoves...alot less work, you may have free wood but it's not...consider your time invested in cutting the tree and if your not splitting on the stump...then cut tree cut up loaf it up haul to splitter, handle it again splitting it then into a trailer or truck then to the stack then to the house...plus the maintenance on the saws cost of saws and consumables, the cost of splitter and consumables, coal burning don't see more than 180 degrees on my chimney about 30 lb of coal a day no risk of creasot/chimney fires over 22 hour burn times...so all that work for what, a 4 to 5 hour fire? I got hooked on coal and stopped burning wood
I much agree. One thing I do have a heat master out door boiler older one. 15 years or older with cross tubes in it. It does not use much for wood at all for heating just over 5,000 square foot of heating space. Last winter I burned around 6 cord so far this winter I'm just starting my second cord of wood ( here in the great MN). It sure makes a difference on how you seal up your heating spaces for sure. We love your videos keep making them.
Thank You for explaining. Very interesting . Good to know.
My old cast iron parlor stove cracked out a huge piece of the firebox a couple of years ago. I replaced it with an indoor wood-burning furnace similar to your basement unit. I don't have it hooked up to the thermostat to force intake air (works on just a 'snap disk'), but it does have 2 squirrel cage fans to force air through the ductwork of the house. I can toggle between 1 or 2 fans depending on weather. It can be adapted to feed air, but so far there hasn't been a need.
I've experienced a difference similar to yours. The old stove and pipe rarely=to-never needed cleaning. The new one, even with all new double-wall insulated stainless steel pipe needs cleaned at least twice a season (though not really a problem.)
The difference in heating and comfort however is stark! I put a return on the furnace in the basement right on the back of the furnace on the fan box, and tied in the original return from the house ductwork. The entire house maintains the same temp.
I do miss the ambiance of having a workable fire to tend, but that's offset by cost-saving. I hope to put in a free-standing stove/fireplace eventually, but alas...
It does use a bit more wood than the old one, and although it could burn relatively fresh logs, seasoned wood does keep the flue cleaner. The old one had so many air infiltration points it would burn almost anything cleanly. I do need to prepare 5 cord of wood/year, but I love it! Free? No, but man, at this point in life, it's much better to work to earn that winter comfort doing something I truly enjoy. Keep up the good work!
Good video Jerry! Always like your real World info!
If your paying for wood , then know it's not free. I buck and split my own wood , have for years. So what cost is your time , a chainsaw and fuel. So depending how you split it will also cost.
I'm still able to split our wood with a axe and it's great exercise. So to me it's free. 😊 Great video . Thanks for sharing
Absolutely best heat source around I've got a wood burning furnace works great burns hot
Hi Jerry. I burned Kentucky coal one winter. It was so much less work than wood and made more heat than I needed. No creosote in the chimney but plenty of coal dust built up inside the chimney and then settles throughout the house. I've gone back to slabwood. Its cheap from the Amish sawmills in Wayne and Holmes Counties.
I agree 100%
Just moved out of Medina County after 32yrs Moved to South Central Indiana Got a nice place very affordable Plenty of Wood on property Plus at least 5 Saw Mills in the area Very Rural ,I'd say more rural than Holmes Co , Owen County Indiana.very nice living . Retired Contractor age 71 yrs
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Hi. Yes. Holmes County is getting built up everywhere. Only a few spaces left. I used to lay brick for a mason in Medina County. His name was Bruce Grossenbacher. Glad you like Indiana.
That was absolutely the easiest teaching to follow😉, and you truly do care about other people. And it's obvious by this video your helping people, looking out for Humanity! Do want others as you would have them do unto you❤ So I thank you, brother for another wonderful teaching.
Thank you my dear friend!
We had a Warm Morning stove with wood or coal. I switched to pellet stove with a back up generator.But for the price at my age it's almost as good.I love the dry heat.
I burn wood for heating my house. I'm so glad you made this video. I really like your cabin you did an excellent job building it from the remains of the old cabin. God Bless .
My grandpa said wood heats you up 7 times. Cutting, carrying, splitting, carrying to the house, stacking, the actual burning, cleaning out the stove. Lol
Grandpa is a smart man!!
I grow up with wood heat and all my adult life I still use wood heat to heat my home. I use white oak, black oak, shagbark hickory, black locust,. Now I've seen the ads one you tube about heating your home for free using a candle in a terracotta pot. I did not click on it because I knew it was a hype.
Great video. I'm nuts about wood stoves of every type. I've run box stoves to kitchen stoves to open face Franklin stoves and fireplaces. Now I'm heating an entire 1800 sq ft house with a 28 ft vaulted ceiling with a Jotul 600 and 24 ft of vertical single wall pipe.
Thank you for the informative, helpful video !! 😊
Happy new year!
Very educational!
Absolutely love your cabin. So much respect for you being able and knowledgeable enough to build and run all that. Awesome!
Where do you source your fire wood?
I like a hot fire and clean burn. Agreed with all said.
My tiny home will hold heat with 6 candles. I’ve been using 400 watts down to -15c I changed to 600 as 400 was just not enough after -15. I had a power outage and instead of going for my propane heater I used 6 candles to hold the heat. These tests I’ve been running using a smart meter and thermal smart meter on the heater. I’m determining what It takes to match my solar and generator power to use electric heat . So far my top day was 9.5kw. My tiny home has a wood stove, diesel heater, candle heat, propane heat and electric heat. I designed it to be redundant and be able to run on anything heat wise. I will do the solar, power station and generator this summer after my tests are done. I think I will also build or find a decent mini wood stove as the tent stove I have is not quite good enough.
Confused here, if wall thermostat says 110°, what is the average temperature in your home? This old lady here is melting just thinking of all that heat! 🥵!!! Is it possible to keep it at a comfy temp in the 65-68° range, on a steady basis, or is it always a blast in the morning, from refiring? BTW, these lessons on fire, smoke, creosote,etc. are facinating to me, and reminds me of years ago, watching science shows with my Dad, and then he'd explain to me, in simple language, what I just watched! Jerry, you are a very good teacher!!
At that moment it was a little too hot, about 72 or so. The wall temp was higher because it was so close to the stove
Heating with wood is awesome until you have to start buying wood. I kinda gave up on heating with the old wood stove and got heat pumps after my free firewood resources became inaccessible. At this point if i wanted to heat with the stove it'd be about $400 a cord (i was burning 3-5 cord a year). Its cheaper to run the heat pumps and have the stove for power outages and really extreme cold that the pumps cant keep up with. Plus, as you said, its a time sink.
You are right my friend! I could probably heat my house for two years on just what my chainsaw cost.
That log cabin sure looks nice and cozy! I love my wood stove. I have an Ashley Fire place insert with a blower.
We lit it January 1st and kept it burning all week then it warmed up and rained then got back down to 14 degrees a few nights. So fired it up another week. Now its warm again and were taking a break. I'm gonna saw some more wood tomorrow. I'm pretty sure old man winter is not done with the cold snaps just yet. It repeats the same thing over and over..... warms up, rains, turns cold as the devil with the wind blowing.
I sure hate to leave that stove behind one day but can't take it with me when I'm gone.
When dad got older and didn't want to fool with the stove any longer he had taken it out and stored it in the barn and moved in a gas heater. I later got the house and moved the gas heater in the barn and moved the wood stove back in where it belongs. That was no easy task. I moved it to the front porch with a fork lift and rolled it in the house on pipes.
Once I married and moved 30 minutes away that left Dad getting the wood all by his self where I had helped for years to saw it and split it.
He later bought a house that just happened to have a wood stove insert and we did get back to sawing and splitting fire wood like the good old days.
Wow that's a beautiful angle lamp chandelier! Sorry oil lamps are a particular interest of mine
My late Father said he got paid a nickel a week to get to school early everyday, to start up the pot belly stove.
Thank you for this vid , expecially now I hope no one freezes to death thinking that pot and candle would save them
thank you great vid
It's always best to burn two years seasoned firewood. True, you can run the fire hot enough to burn green wood cleanly, but you're still wasting BTUs burning off moisture instead of heating the house. You can also keep a clean chimney by running the fire hot at first then slowing down the draft to bank the coals.
Great video Jerry 100 percent true,we tried air tight stove and I tried getting to much burn time so to do that you would limit the air and we got creosote build up and we had a chimney fire so we then tried coal, then went to a pellet stove they dont make enough heat for what the pellets cost ,so now im back to wood, we got a new stove made by Kuma a USA company I love this stove it has a cat converter which burns the gasses and burns very efficent along with a double wall stainless flue i feel its very safe I just looked inside the flue and there is no built up in the flue ,I feel if you can get good wood free or very cheap and you enjoy cutting wood like I do over time after you have your stove for a few years you can save a lot of money but no its not free heat, but there is nothing like wood heat and cutting your on fuel is a good feeling but you have to plan ahead God bless.
All true my friend!
I heat my home with an outdoor boiler with wood and coal couple shovels of coal on cold nights and full rest of fill with wood my shop has a small potbelly stove which runs coal and wood combo as well .
There is definitely no such thing as free heat! The amount of time and energy you put into making firewood, then managing the process of burning wood, has a cost. You have to constantly be preparing to heat your home. You don't have the option to "set it and forget it", like folks with a modern HVAC system will have. Those have their own costs. For my money, nothing beats a geothermal, ground-source heat pump (GSHP) because it is so energy efficient, very cost-effective, and has that major advantage of being controlled by a thermostat. With all of that said, I will never live in a home that doesn't have an "alternative" way of heating it, like with a wood stove.
We worked our backsides off chopping wood all summer to have "free" heat. We as kids loved it but there is nothing free about burning wood to heat a house.
Yep, before I was old enough for paying job my dad drafted my younger brother and I to cut, spilt and stack our wood. He would run the chainsaw and drove the truck. Took us very weekend in July and august to Drag the tree's out of the hills to our home. Usually took about 13 to 14 cords a winter plus a cpl extra for just in case. Then September was the splitting and stacking. Minimum wage at that was 2.35 an hour. A cord at that time was 50 to 70 bucks a cord depending on time of year you bought it. We processed ours since dad didn't spend wages on us, for about 20 bucks a cord not counting the food boost we had while we were working it. Lol. Still not free but I kind of miss it now.
Yep, before I was old enough for paying job my dad drafted my younger brother and I to cut, spilt and stack our wood. He would run the chainsaw and drove the truck. Took us very weekend in July and august to Drag the tree's out of the hills to our home. Usually took about 13 to 14 cords a winter plus a cpl extra for just in case. Then September was the splitting and stacking. Minimum wage at that was 2.35 an hour. A cord at that time was 50 to 70 bucks a cord depending on time of year you bought it. We processed ours since dad didn't spend wages on us, for about 20 bucks a cord not counting the food boost we had while we were working it. Lol. Still not free but I kind of miss it now.
Yep, before I was old enough for paying job my dad drafted my younger brother and I to cut, spilt and stack our wood. He would run the chainsaw and drove the truck. Took us very weekend in July and august to Drag the tree's out of the hills to our home. Usually took about 13 to 14 cords a winter plus a cpl extra for just in case. Then September was the splitting and stacking. Minimum wage at that was 2.35 an hour. A cord at that time was 50 to 70 bucks a cord depending on time of year you bought it. We processed ours since dad didn't spend wages on us, for about 20 bucks a cord not counting the food boost we had while we were working it. Lol. Still not free but I kind of miss it now.
Yep, before I was old enough for paying job my dad drafted my younger brother and I to cut, spilt and stack our wood. He would run the chainsaw and drove the truck. Took us very weekend in July and august to Drag the tree's out of the hills to our home. Usually took about 13 to 14 cords a winter plus a cpl extra for just in case. Then September was the splitting and stacking. Minimum wage at that was 2.35 an hour. A cord at that time was 50 to 70 bucks a cord depending on time of year you bought it. We processed ours since dad didn't spend wages on us, for about 20 bucks a cord not counting the food boost we had while we were working it. Lol. Still not free but I kind of miss it now.
I love my outside wood stove made by Fire Chef. No water jacket and was made around St. Louis. Cut wood 2ft long . Can burn 3ft . Gets to hot if not under 30 degrees outside
Those ones are a lot better than the water ones. I have installed a few of them.
tu aimes les objets anciens super , ils ont une âme , ont chauffé tant de personnes , vu tant de situations , j'aime ces vidéos !!
I am waching you from Bosnia and Herzegovina nice cabin old school stuff’s
Welcome!!
Its -20 degrees F today. Very thankful that my triple glaze windows match my house just fine.
Used a "Warm Morning"stove for yrs.
Jerry- I’d like you to show how you have your wood range (cook stove) tied into the cabin flu. I want to do a similar arrangement in the stone summer kitchen I’m building
I’ll be doing a cookstove episode soon and will try to explain that a little then.
I can get cheap accessible heat, but I sure work my tail off, yet having a woodstove is handy I can always find wood. But never propane or natural gas
Your right, NOTHING is free...
wonderful explanation! you didn't perfect! keep it up!
Have you considered putting in a masonry heater AKA “grundofen” - an old-world woodburning stove that stores heat in the thermal mass of firebrick, by routing the exhaust gasses through a complex flue pathway?
Edit: that makes the house a lot warmer through the night and prevents those cold mornings.
Yeah Jerry, I got clicked baited too. I watched it and sorry I wasted my time too. Very nice tutorial on wood burning in stoves 101!
Osage claims it has more btu’s than coal, black locust coming in second to Osage. Both amazing woods for heat.
Osage is very hot! Not a lot of it around my place. More locust for sure.
There were many coal mines over your way, but it was all soft coal. Do you mind burning it. I'm considering stockpiling the anthracite from PA. I would need a different stove though. Im just trying to stay prepared. I don't have gas access. Thanks for your time and best wishes.
I don’t like anthracite Coal. It’s just a little too hard for me. I do love what we call Kentucky Coal. And we have one vain in Ohio that isn’t too bad. I have some left over from last year. Best of luck to you!
I enjoyed your video and learned something. I grew up heating a large house with 2 Riteway wood stoves. They hold a good bit of wood. I'm interested in vintage/old wood stoves, and thinking of getting some to fix up. What make is your pot belly and can it burn coal? Thanks I just subbed
It’s an Acme Giant and yes I do burn coal in it. I have a video on my channel of burning coal in it.
I don't know what are time is worth but we as a family go out and cut and collect downed trees all year long then spend a fair amount of time splitting all the rounds as soon as possible to stack and let it all dry out filling our pallet sheds this seems to keep our wood supply at 8 to 10 cords all year long this house is a 2 story stoves are on the 1st floor one in each room living room has pot belly dinning the dinning room has a good size wood stove and a stone fireplace the kitchen has a wood cook stove plus a flat top electric stove for summer use but in winter we do use our wood cook stove this helps greatly to heat the kitchen and mudroom all in all we burn 6 to 7 cords every winter never using gas or electric heat the floors upstairs have grates we adjust air flow in case it gets to hot very comfy home ..?
It appears that a variable speed fan and matched rheostat (wall thermostat controller) on the Brunko would solve a lot of problems and make it way more efficient. They are available now days to retrofit the old stoves. Instead of "all or nothing" they keep a small amount of air going all the time to prevent smoldering; and then put a lot of air in when needed. Considering all the costs you mentioned to produce the firewood and clean the chimney, a variable speed system would pay for itself pretty darn quick. What do you think?
How often you clean it? Ash tray. Im new to the channel not sure if you already produce a video of it.
If you like burning wood you should try anthracite coal. All the benefits of constant heat like wood but 1/4 of the work. 12 hour burn times and no creasote. That Brunco will probably burn coal better then wood minus the draft blower. Coal doesn't need it. In fact it would mess up the burn using a draft inducer with coal.
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Great video! What kind of other stoves do you have next to the potbelly? Is that to retain some of the heat or just collecting nice old stoves? Greetings from the Netherlands.
Welcome, the other stoves I brought up because I thought I was going to talk about them too but it never happened. Maybe in another video some day.
My neighbor put a smaller pot belly stove out this summer, wish I would have grabbed it, it lasted 5 mins. Would be perfect to heat my garage. I’d assume homeowners insurance wouldn’t allow a potbelly.
Jerry as a stove sweeper what would you say is the cleanest model wood burning stove one could instal in a home and not need to sweep as often?
Yes, it is the cleanest by far. But you are right homeowners insurance doesn’t normally allow anything that is not UL listed. Potbelly stoves normally deep back to the period prior to UL listings. But there are a few that still allow it as long as it is inspected by professional and he says it is ok. They only do this, though, so they can sue that professional if anything ever happens. It’s a double edge sword.
In sweden some brilliant politician wanted to tax firewood that you bring yourself, from your own property. Because it is free, as she stated. She didnt think of the cost to run a property, cost for machines, time and effort. Fire wood heat 5-9 times depending on how you count.
Typical politician!!
Great video.
Thank you!
Where did you get your popbelly stove
I bought a convection heater for $300 this year and it takes .04/hr ...its 72° in my bedroom and 10° outside.
terra pot does hold the heat . deer camping we'd turn propane stove on put terra pot on it after a few hours turn stove off teera pot will keep the heat for 8 hrs
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You need a better stove to heat a home
.the old bear stove if years ago were the best but they needed modification.. I had a bear style stove with inside of steel box.. a blower looked into to the back of the stove hooked to the central heat cold air return, on top of the box was a duck system going to the central heat floor registry system. To improve on this system you need a outside pipe to bring in air to the stove.. used it for 30 years. Just labor and chain saw and tractor and truck fuel free heat almost.
Unless someone gives you wood it ain’t free 😅 a lot closer to it than the power company though
Yes! I agree
Where did you get your popbelly stove for your log cabin
I found it on marketplace
What kind of candles you burning in there ???
So I have a very small log cabin in my woods, needs a small wood stove. Do you have an idea?
I have one I used to use in a very small camp. It was only about 24” tall, it had legs so firebox was only about 12”. It held a log that was about 24” long. So long rectangle. Vent out the back. It is perfect for a small camp. I’ve been wanting to shoot a video with all of my old stoves. I need to do that one day.
@@logcabinlifestyle I would like to see that.
I’m using a very small pot belly stove right now. It gets really hot,but I have to literally cut my wood down to 6 in or less to fit. It was probably meant for coal use. The problem is I would have to feed the thing every hour. I would really like to spend the night in the cabin some cold spell we get, but I would be up a hundred times feeding the fire.
Sir, I have a double wall pipe about 18 ft straight up. Will 212 degree reading on a double wall pipe be a good way to avoid creosote, or with a double wall pipe will the reading be lower?
If you have double wall stove pipe the reading will be much lower, meaning the inside of the pipe or flue gases will be much higher. You can get a probe thermometer that will give you the proper readings. Remember I said 212 at the top so you need much higher at the top of the stove or bottom. Lots of other factors do come into play as well.
Thank you sir. I enjoy your content.@@logcabinlifestyle
Is black locust the old growth variety?
The one he dragged up the hill to mill up certainly was.
Something going wrong with the last two videos, no audio. On this one up to 8.28 no audio.
I miss wood heat
What are your thoughts on Eco fans?
I have one that someone gave me. It looks nice, it spins very fast, but doesn’t push any air at all. I think the blades aren’t bent enough
The flaunching on the stack need redoing mate, cracks all round it.
Salem News? I thought you were in Maine?
Nope, I’m in Ohio
Thsts s coal stove...youd get 2 or 3 days on s full load in thst stove upstairs...anthracite coal...thats what your potbelly stove was made for
If not free you work for it , plus saws and equipment then many hours of labor 😊
Heat the person not the room! The candles cost more than turning a heater on at the wall or calling on the gas heating!
You are right
You need a check up from the neck up a lot of Gobley goop
It is a full time job if you want to heat your home with wood.
Figure how much wood it would take to get you through a winter.
What size of trees. Say 1-1.5 foot in diameter.
How much wood per week.
Then Figure 15-20 years or more per tree to grow 1-1.5 ft in diameter.
SO YOU ARE NOT STRIPPING AND RUINING A FOREST that is nessary for our eco system. 2:12 2:12
How many acres of trees in staggered rows.
So, if you are just starting out and have the land say you might need 15 trees per row.
15 rows. For 15 -20 years.
Then everytime you cut a row And pull or chop the roots out so you can plant a new row of trees.
Or become a forestry major and devote your life and your families future to growing MANY spacial staggered acres of 20 year old trees to cut and use for your own home heating and/or sell or to provide for some folks in your community.
Full time work.
My Mom used to say that the only thing free in this world and the next is God's Love.
True!!
if you can spare the leccy, get a recoheat on that flue, or make your own.
you shoudl; make a roing fire tan fill upthe potbelly and other stove to the maxs with wood for very long hot burn
Trust me I just did. With it being 10° out right now it’s about to get hot in here.
Hey..man! Do you know that you punched a hole in 100K wideos on YT right now.
air used to be free😢
Nothing is free when it comes to heating you're home. If you burn wood you either cut it or you buy it but it's not free.
There enough thing free any more. It cost you some where down the line. Chainsaws, Splitters, Mauls, gas or electric ect ect,.. There always a hidden cost some where 👉👉 burning wood is cheaper
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Absolutely agree about nothing in the world being free…. Except the only thing that actually matters ….Jesus
Agreed🙏
He loves me more than I deserve!
Firewood don’t grow on trees I like to say….
😂😂, good one
Physics and human nature explains that something for nothing isn’t possible.
False. Not free heat unless you have a woods that you can get the wood to burn in it. If you have to buy the wood it can get expensive.
Nothing is free or easy
What i am trying to say is:
Be responsible because you may not go around cutting down America's forestry without a plan of regrowth.
No its not possible to heat your home with candles.. You will end up burning it down My log cabin came with a big fireplace. I don't like ITS A WOOD EATING MONSTER. My house would do lots better, with a Potbelly Stove or a Large US Cast Iron Stove. there more energy efficient. More heat. less firewood 🔥🔥
If you think burning wood is free, you have never done it.
Truth!
Candles are made of Fossil fuel and the Earths Resourses of Fossil are running out. Be responsible.
No such thing as free heat .
We all fell for that bullshit
😂😂, with the views it got he probably made about $15,000 on that video