Theodore Roosevelt gives a speech in Kansas - Theodore Roosevelt series
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- Thedore Roosevelt the bull moose, the hero of san juan hill and teddy he is the 26th U.S. President
Theodore Roosevelt miniseries by History and A+E Network. This is for educational purposes. This video is to provide knowledge or remembrance for the viewer. - Zábava
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Pretty good portrayal of TR, though apparently as he got more excited, his voice would get a higher pitch and he had an affected Hahvahd accent.
That farmer was right. The politicians R bigger thieves than the oligarchs
Did you just describe Bill Burr?
What is this movie
@@nathanlobono5818holy shit bill burr is modern teddy Roosevelt
@@nathanlobono5818bill burr gots the accent of a wannabe rich intellectual while actually sounding like a senile zesty old man
Didn’t even insult him, just pointed out the fact he was being shafted by the companies he sells to.
Who said he’s being shafted? He didn’t ask the railroad what it costs to operate
Better yet, he learned the mans name and shook his hand. When you’re treated like a person, and not political opposition, a good dialogue can be started with decency even with disagreements.
@@Mr.JoopMan imagine if someone told that to a democrat lol
@@tiffanyroberts6460 man wtf did I just type about treating people like people and not political opponents? I can tell from your lack of media literacy just what kinda person you are.
We dont even know the rail companies costs 😂
Historically we do know but within this scene we dont haha.
Old Teddy giving a speech like hes grabbing you by the collar slapping sense into you.
"Confound it, man. You will be smarter whether you like it or not!"
😂😂😂😂
The one above me is a bot
They have different interests, fullfilmet of one robs the other
@@emperorpalpatine7557 ay what can I say I’m a bot through n through and I’m proud of that
Environmentalist, inherently distrusting of big business, overall sense of confidence and strength. Wish we had more presidents like him tbh
Funnily enough those traits also applied to a certain German chancellor ... you may be familiar...
@@GigaNietzsche
I'm good without the totalitarianism and genocide.
@@GigaNietzscheHe was somewhat overzealous when it came to war but that is a wild and insulting comparison that makes less of Roosevelt's good character and underestimates and dilutes the horror of national socialism.
He was a CONSERVATIONIST. He was an avid hunter, even went on Safari in Africa.
@@thronethrower4540Consevationism and Preservationism are both Environmentalist positions. Just because his form has fallen out of fashion in many Environmentalist circles today doesn’t make him NOT an Environmentalist.
I can’t believe NYC tore down his statue
Welp, we don't actually fund education.
what? no way!
It's because of the people on the side of Teddy and how they are portrayed, not actually because of Teddy, who is one of the best presidents in our nation.
Maybe because he is Republican.
@@Hotcat-lj8zxyou should look into what political party was pro slavery big kid, if you think republicans and democrats are the same as they were back then you are sadly misled
Teddy was giving a speech and a man walked up and shot him. Instead of leaving, he continued his speech with a bullet in him. Definitely a different breed
roosevelt: *literally gets shot*
also roosevelt: "so anyways..."
Well no, he was shot outside the building, and then went inside to give his speech
Did he get shot during his service? Probably used to it by then 😂
He also got shot on a chest pocket which saved his life due to a notebook or coin (don't remember which it was.) And stopped the bullet.
@@bountyoncloudy9424 it was his speech, then he made a joke about how the guy didn't want to hear his long speech (iirc)
Being called a socialist for calling out corporate greed? Even now people don’t learn.
Anything that threatens corporate profits gets called socialist or even communist
@@tomlxyzcorporate profits? This is a man who owned a farm, what does he care about corporate profits? Is it possible that regular average everyday people can just not like socialism?
@@jarrettpage4009corporations buy from farmers to sell to cities
@@jarrettpage4009 you are the exact person my comment is making fun of. That’s not socialism.
@@jarrettpage4009the whole point thais is being made here is that this character Hal portrays the failed American view of socialism.
I’m going to preface this by saying I’m not a socialist.
What the vast majority of Americans would call socialism is not socialism, Bernie sanders isn’t, Norway Denmark and Sweden aren’t. They are progressive/social democratic.
Teddy here live many left wing people today advocates for those systems, which involved government intervention in bare essentials like healthcare, water and welfare, while leaving the market relatively free.
Social democracy is still capitalist and generally liberal, it just attempts to keep the free market from straying away from the public good.
Socialism on the other hand is what was practiced in the ussr and China, it is the state controlling everything, and eliminating the free market so that it can mediate workers issues by itself. This is very different, and for a variety of reasons frequently fails and falls into totalitarianism.
Big corporations, elites and the general upper class have poisoned Americans against the concept of social democracy by branding it as socialism, this most notable occurred in the mcarthyism where everyone left wing was branded as communist in America.
Thus a lot of Americans, like Hal in this clip and as I’d assume you, do not have a full understanding of what is and isn’t socialism, because of a century long campaign to stigmatise policies that would hurt the rich.
So hal has fallen for this (which is fair enough) and fears the genuinely helpful policies of teddy, who now is defending himself from this harmful stigma.
Teddy is not socialist, and if Hal knew more he probably wouldn’t be anti socialism.
Sorry for the rant man, feel free to reply with questions or criticisms, have a nice day.
A hundred years ago. Unbelievable. Almost......prescient.
the last time TR ran for prez was 1912. this was apparently before he got elected as McKinley's VP which woulda been for the 1900 election.
We've been circling the drain on the same debate for the better part of two centuries. It always happens - leaders like Teddy Roosevelt and FDR champion workers' rights during eras of strong unions, we enjoy an era of meteoric rise in average quality of life... and then, little by little, the next couple generations take what they have for granted. They forget the long history of American labor movements, buy in to corporation-funded campaigns to convince us these men were somehow socialists, and let it all slip away.
What 1900 is before 1912@@greatmcluhansghost7134
It's more than that now, closer to 125 years.
its not prescience, its history repeating itself
We need Teddy more than ever now
They would probably smear him into the dirt as a communist kind of like Sanders
Absolutely not
We need a modern Teddy
@@bruhbruk4568 Learn some history. FDR also got called a socialist for proposing Social Security. Idiots were also against Public Libraries, calling it socialism.
@@BigSnakey FDR is a socialist, he was a terrible president, i cant think of a single good policy he presented
Teddy talked like FDR but with a higher pitch. There's one of the earliest records that has just a few seconds of him giving a speech. Not at all the deep, blustery, bombastic tone one would assume from photos of his speeches.
Well now I’m imagining him talking like Morty smith lmao
Don't let him hear that. The Oyster Bay and Hyde Park Roosevelts didn't get along very well for quite some time :D, though Franklin did admire his cousin a LOT.
They are distantly related
You realize back then, everyone sounded higher pitched because of the recording tech and quality?
He spoke softly and carried a big stick
Teddy cooked tf outta that guy with pure logic.
That's just sad. That's not cooking man. He brought himself down to the guy's level, acknowledged his name, profession, and point, then offered his. That's called a decent conversation XD
Fucking cooking...
Brainrot
aye he was cooked doe gang 😈😈😈 bruhhhhhhhh
A Sphincter says what?
@thericepotato5847 Couldn't agree more
This is a great example of how a leader should address oppositional stances. He is respectful to the man, and inquires about his perspective to attempt to break down the logic behind their differences in opinion. This sets an example for the audience and creates a space where people can truly learn
If only our political leaders did this. Instead of playing for sound bites. Whats worse the politically tribal public eats it up.
Progressive idiot
Only person I've seen do this in modern times is Vivek Ramaswamy.
When you look at Theodore’s policies it’s honestly incredible how progressive they were for his time. We desperately need a young man in office again.
It's too late both parties are just Corporatacracy party 1 and Corporatacracy party 2
@@user-tp8pf5ke8oyes. With a fake made up culture war in the middle.
We need a divestment of parties, many many parties in America. Almost 300 million voters 50 states, dozens of different cultures within said states and only two mainstream parties is ridiculous.
I like the way EU does it. Thats much fairer
@@user-tp8pf5ke8oboth are shit but they're not the same. Project 25
@@user-tp8pf5ke8oliterally
Not a good thing.
To anyone wondering this isn't socialism or communism. Those call for class warfare, this is classes working together to get the best prices.
During “Trusts” period in America it wasn’t capitalism, it was literally a burglary
Explain to me how you reach that goal without adhering in some way or other to either of those ideas?
Class consciousness and class solidarity against the bourgeois and capitalist is literally embebed within them and that's literally what Roosevelt is saying in the short.
@@Razzy_D9111 BTW, Roosevelt wasn't a socialist. He criticized the socialists of his day like Eugene Debs.
The early 1900s was a Gilded Age where an increasing number of people advocated for socialism to replace capitalism.
Roosevelt wanted to preserve capitalism, so instead of watching the laissez faire system collapse and be destroyed, he advocated for reforms to alleviate some of capitalism's most pronounced flaws.
@@porsche911sbs I'm not against a workers market, why are westerners so afraid of collectivism when politicians and the wealthy already rob us blind is my biggest confusion.
@@Razzy_D9111 where do you think capitalists and the bourgeoisie get their money? From the other classes. Improving the lives of the lower and upper classes allows them spend more money on the capitalist products.
"Who said that, WHO THE FUCK JUST SAID THAT?!" -drill Sgt Theodore Roosevelt
Incase some people come across this and question the weird comments from the bots; No, NYC didn't remove *all* of Teddy's statues, there's still parks full of em. They removed three, all of which had Native Americans in obedient positions. The ones of just him on a horse are still up.
Define "obedient positions"
Jon Schwarz of the Intercept said it's because Teddy Roosevelt's beliefs led others to become a nazi. The article is still up.
@@I-should-have-let-Trotsky-stay Sadly NYC was to bigoted to see that the obedient positions were a expression of the gay sex of that time.
@@I-should-have-let-Trotsky-stayStanding next to TR, while not on a horse themselves
Damn, so weird how context can change things pretty damn radically lmao
I get that people hate socialism. But if you think about it. Capitalism is supposed to help the working man not corporate companies. So. When coca cola says. "Oh my God, Socialism". Nope. It means. You better start treating your workers fair. I love how Roosevelt says, "well that's not much".
Well he wasn’t talking about coke he’s talking about the railroads like Vanderbilt who have a monopoly on the shipping industry because most continental rail lines were subsidized by tax dollars and treasury bonds. There was only one or two continental rail lines that were built without government subsidies so yes I agree with that. But what about the railroad company that didn’t take government loans and took the risk to build the railroad with the owner operator and shareholder wealth should be able to keep their profit.
@@wyattinderman4220 Was just reading about the creation of the the railroad monopoly during TR's first term and how the administration used it to enforce anti-trust laws.
Know one is making you work for coke, get another job. Socialist say you will work for coke.
Corporate companies hate Capitalism and love government. With the government they can get laws put in place to remove competition, have subsidies given to them to undercut their costs and get bailed out whenever they make bad decisions. It's thanks to government that we have Corporations. Capitalism is Boom and Bust
In true free market capitalism the government is supposed to regulate monopolies, not provide subsidies, and nor should corporations be allowed to donate to politics, And employees are able to leave and start a new career wherever or whenever they please to find a wage they believe they deserve. We have none of that in this day and age.
Hal Peters calling what is essentially class collaboration for nationalist aims "socialism" is funny to me as such collaboration reinforces the bourgeois state and capitalist relations of production rather than its destruction as actual socialists, even in Theodore's time, advocated.
I thought the same thing. Soon as he said workers need to come together with corporations, I couldn't help but think of a certain ideology that pushed such a collaboration that people have also ignorantly called socialist.
@@skywardkillzone Hitler talked a load of shite
Social democracy and fascism are both corporatist ideologies seeking to reconcile irreconcilable class antagonisms. The fascism, whilst appropriating and perverting socialist rhetoric, of Axis nations was funded by industrialists to direct the energies of a discontened people towards endeavours that would not fundamentally challenge the privillage of the ruling class. For example, invading Ethiopia and massecring jews. I could go on but this post is long enough
@@skywardkillzone Hitler's "socialism" was heavily inspired by the principles espoused by Ferdinand Lassalle, such as the idea that a socialist society must be established by the party seizing control of the ready-made state machinery, nationalize property, and create a party dictatorship (sound familiar?). This is why Hitler's "socialism" cannot be compared to Marx's definition of the term. Hitler outright rejected Marx's definition of socialism on account of the fact that Marx advocated internationalism and the abolition of national borders which obviously runs counter to the nationalist aims of Hitler's "socialism" and he used Marx's jewish heritage (which btw Marx was raised Lutheran after his father converted from Judaism) to push the idea of Jews being incapable of being nationalists and thus incapable of being proper citizens as well as the idea that all communists are Jews. "A Specter Haunting Europe: The Myth of Judeo-Bolshevism" is a good book to read up about this sort of thing.
@@redflagrevolutionary6549 but Fredinand Lassalle was a jew too.
I’m from Alfreton in England. A great man from here called Robert Watchorn started life as a miner at nine! And was personally selected by Theodore Roosevelt to be chief immigrations officer at Ellis island, NY later in his life.
NYC here, that's awesome! Thanks for that man's name and contribution!
it’s a mini-Series documentary called ‘Theodore Roosevelt’ from the History Channel on History Vault. They come out with a new one every year, there’s also Lincoln, Washington, and my favorite Grant. I think the next one coming out is JFK
Thank you for the information.
I think it could be Biden
@@legendofman12
Watch the ratings tank
odd that absolutely nobody was curious what this is even called
@@ohioagainsttheworld676
Debbie Does Dallas
When he yells, he kinda sounds like Mr Pearson, the camp cook from Rdr2
The funny thing is that a lot of people during both our time and his time believed Teddy Roosevelt to be socialist with his attacks against the trusts. But in truth he fought mostly against the unfair business practices that the trusts and monopolies used. He was the type of guy to think that good ethics was more important than honor, reputation, and money. His party was very pro-business, and so was he. And he wasn't really even on the more liberal side of the Republican party at the time, there were quite a few fellow Republicans at the time that believed that the railroads should be run by the government, something he saw as a bad idea. Rather than a socialist, he fought on behalf of all businesses and only tried to break apart the trusts and monopolies that were playing dirty (using backroom deals to run competitors out of business, threatening people, etc.)
A true capitalist
So why did the writers make him socialist in this scene 😂
@@Cherry-pu4mx In this scene, he is pointing out that the railroads are essentially in a trust allowing them to charge however much they want to anyone they want. That combined with the fact that the major shareholders in the trust are owners of trusts of other markets (Rockfeller who owns the Standard Oil trust, JP Morgon and his monopoly on banks, and Carnegie's steel industry) it allows these individuals to create backroom deals to run any third party producers out of business. What he is leading to is not the idea that the government should seize control of the railroads or anything like that, rather he is pointing out that leaders of business and industry should have some kind of ethics, working towards the improvement of society, instead of crippling sections of the economy with backroom and illegal deals. He is pointing out that the railroads are charging whatever they wish at any point in time, with rates sometimes 100 time that of any published rate, while at the same time charging their shareholders nothing to ship some of the same products. He is also pointing out that some of the charges the railroads are charging are bogus charges, such as charging people a small fortune in fees any time a railroad employee even touches someones product. He is not advocating for the government to take any kind of control over anything, but rather pointing out that these individuals are crippling the economy for their own gain all due to a lack of available information. Also, the owners of these trusts effectively had a nationwide espionage ring 100 times more capable than anything the government had at the time, using strategic bribes of railroad employees.
@@mraschlewin8034 oh I know this already but he states workers being partners of businesses lmao. Thts a socialist idealogy.
@@Cherry-pu4mx🤦 a million times 🤦
Roosevelt wasn't a socialist Roosevelt has been the main figure identified with progressive conservatism. Roosevelt stated that he had "always believed that wise progressivism and wise conservatism go hand in hand".
He also believed other fun things… here’s a quote from Teddy,
“I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feebleminded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them… The emphasis should be laid on getting desirable people to breed…”
Roosevelt, “Twisted Eugenics,” in The Works of Theodore Roosevelt, op. cit., National Edition, XII, p. 201.
@@alexwisniewski2309so basically he’s saying idiots shouldn’t breed lol
@@alexwisniewski2309You have convinced me, he might be right
Progressive conservatism is an oxymoron though.
Idk why but this dude portraying Teddy rustled my jimmies
haven't heard that phrase in forever
He's actually a pretty good depiction
Can we have another TR instead of Trump or Biden?
bully!
Trump is the closer-aligned to TR of the two.
But I agree.
@@AppleOfThineEye Idk, tbh, I guess maybe on social issues, but that can be said about most presidents. Biden does talk of raising taxes on the rich while Trump, well, is rich (or at least before he started owning a ton of money to everyone)
@@iamsiley2200 I don't dock points from people by virtue of being rich.
@@AppleOfThineEye I mean, I suppose you have a point but what I mean by "is rich" is that he lives lavishly and does not seem to care for the poor and homeless
Before the large corporation makes a dime, it has to come to terms with its workers.
And in fact the corporation only would make 3 dimes per bushel of corn. Average profit rate is 4 percent.
When Kansas actually mattered
Not from Kansas, but Kansas has a GDP higher than 156 of 212 countries. It’s a major producer of civilian aircraft, engines, and parts. Kansas surpasses Hungary in machinery, construction materials, and processed foods. I’d say they matter.
Who in Kansas hurt you?
@@shane6450 Too bad about the regressionst education and social policies.
Dude, saying you surpass Hungary isn't the brag you think it is...
@@kellycochran6487What kind of social policies?
A lot of interior states mattered more back then. Pennsylvania alone produced similar amounts of iron and coal as all of Germany. We used to be peak!
“First they came for the socialists, I did not speak I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, I did not speak I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, I did not speak for I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.” Socialists are the first line of defense for the working class. I’d say being labeled a socialist isn’t as bad a thing as many might think. Me personally, I’d take it as a compliment. But just like the quote I provided it doesn’t matter if you’re a socialist or not because it’s about the freedom to speak and once you start silencing those who speak. It will not be long before YOU are silenced as well.
Bully!
Yeah nah!
@@thomasmoore4723 good argument💀
Everyone has the right to speak. But let’s not forget the horrors brought about by socialism on a nation wide scale. North Korea is a perfect example. If you want socialism so bad make your own little community like the Amish. Don’t force it down everyone else’s throats. You can be a socialist in a capitalist society but not a capitalist in a socialist society.
What about the socialists that came for everyone else in the Soviet Union, Maoist China, Eastern Europe post WW2 and countless other countries?
Watching the debates tonight, there’s no sense of this kind of president anymore 😡
The dude took a bullet and kept on!!!
He's not a dude. Youre a dude. He is a man.
I can't believe we don't have a good modern Teddy biopic.
We need a Teddy so badly
Why? Companies let employees become part owners already it’s called stock options
@@tiffanyroberts6460Tiffany, how much do you make in a month? Did you know that nearly half of the country is below a living income?
@@Mae_Renneburg #Bidenomics I’m not gonna blame corporations for the failures of the worst president in modern American history.
@@tiffanyroberts6460 Worst president is definitely a stretch. I’m a democrat and even I don’t like him at all, but he’s definitely not the worst.
I think all that trumpmania addled with your head a bit. Have you tried going to the psychiatrist?
@@tiffanyroberts6460your delusional if you think me buying $200 dollars of Apple stocks on Robinhood is comparable to owning part of a company. Yeah like technically but that’s not how it works.
Americans: United we stand, divided we fall.
Americans: So we should work together for the common good?
Americans: Heresy! Blasphemer! Communist!!
It's more nuanced than that. When government is involved, it's seen as bad. Americans have long been distrustful of government. Watergate made people even more distrustful.
Some of you beg for socialism and communism... under the current establishment running the US?
Good luck on that. Lol.
They've been kicking you into the dirt with capitalism, what do you think they'll do to you in socialism or a communism? Delusional people.
@@gustavju4686 your never gonna get anywhere with people like this by explaining that. These people are just angry little European virgins who are so frustrarted with their own sad countries they'll just on another one to feel better about theirs. They're pathetic worms is what I'm sayign.
Lmao he sounded just like Zach Galifianakis when he said “who said that?”
It's ironic they bring up railroads in this, because after this short I got a short of a CSX freight train.
Teddy might be the only President everyone on the political spectrum can respect
Untill they tore down his statue at his own muesum
19 cents for him and the lad cant renegotiate
Better live with as little as three cent than becoming socialist.
Capitalism, Ho!
@@satriadicky3732If he lived in a socialist nation, then his property would be seized and he’d be forced to work on his former property on whatever wages the state decides to give him. That’s assuming the reds don’t purge him and his family over historical class antagonism.
@@josechacon2446 Whoa slow down bud, i know we shit on socialist but atleast don't put them in the same level as communist.
@@satriadicky3732 Socialism is a broad term. In Marxist terms, what I am I referring to is a historical socialist nation and not a utopian communist society. I’m specifically thinking of the USSR, in this case.
@@josechacon2446 What do you think of Marhaenism?
Most based Roosevelt
I'm a socialist myself, of the national variety 😏
@@scottanos9981 YIKES
@@Taschip I hear they're anti-smoking, pro-vegetarian/vegan, and very much pro-collectivization. . .
@@isaacschmitt4803tip of the iceberg tho
This sums up a sad fact: many workers will defend big corporations thinking those corporations are the hand that feeds them, when in reality, workers are feeding a hand that's demanding more every day.
Insane that a farmer would say it’s a bad idea to be treated as a partner by the corporations he works with
This interaction never happened. You're watching propaganda.
Teddy Roosevelt, the unstoppable and balanced fusion between a Conservative and Progressive. The Centrists President. We may never see his like again...
What movie is this
Anyone know
That's what I'm looking for
Theodore Roosevelt Miniseries
It is a cool way to show that companies need a revision and how he showed the proof just by comparing the shipment cost vs the product cost
Goes to show that for essentially all of American history, whenever someone tries to improve workers rights, there's always someone just waiting to call them a "socialist" or a "commie", even if it would improve their lot
are u genuinely fucknig stupid? Like do u have a genuine terminal brain condition? Like how much must your intelect suffer that u need to generalise the history of a big place with loads of identities? Like how fucking idiotic do u have to be to do that?
Teddy was the manliest and true American president we ever had since the founding fathers.
Dude box his enemies and friends alike when comes to political differences then settle with a handshake, hunts while support wildlife reserves, served in the military. He stands for the people and created his own Conservative Party to split from democrats and republicans such as founding fathers intended. Made the US an empire of the world!
Also he got shot mid speech and kept going for 3 hours then was like “ladies and gentlemen I been shot but let’s carry on..”
Dude was true American.
this what we need, a leader who really hear their countrymen
the irony is that he was put in the vice presidency at the behest of big corporations to prevent him from actually breaking monopolies. Then the president died and that plan backfired horribly
Instead you vote democrat the party that doesn’t listen to anyone ever
Thing about Teddy is that it was less about socialism and more about being anti-Corporation. People think Capitalism Inherently means Corporations, but Capitalism was meant to put the economy in control of the General People. Corporations still contradict capitalism because they take it away from the general people and instead put it in the hands of the rich.
I absolutely love Capitalism and think it's the best in the world, but that doesn't mean I like corporations. I hate them quite a bit. I love capitalism because it gives small, local skilled people the chance to make their own business without having to go through Billionaires or Bureaucrats.
Teddy would've been so proud of stock options being matched to employees
100 years later and the working class is still struggling against those who seek to keep all the wealth to themselves
We were doing good for a while. Then Reagan and the Republicans sold out. Then Clinton followed suit. Biden has been pretty good, though, when it comes to unions.
@@Mitch...Gregory Except for the railroad and Biden... Who were told to screw themselves. Don't get me wrong though, Trump gave tax breaks to billionairs and taxed the poor even more
TR had fucking brass balls
steel!
I did my senior paper on Teddy, and I loved learning about him. Great guy!
They called him a socialist because he didn't want corporations to screw the workers. That's not even socialism, that's just plain respect for your employees.
Theodore Roosevelt is truly one of the greatest Americans this country ever produced
He isn't a socialist, even mussolini believed in class collaboration
and they were both violently racist
Mussolini was once part of the socialist party but was expelled because he supported the first world war
Mussolini was a socialist…
@@TahoeTime4457 this is a lie. he held socialist beliefs as a youngster until the outbreak of WW1, at which point he became such a fervent warmongering nationalist he abandoned and denounced socialism entirely. that's literally why he formed the Fascist Party of Italy and led a violent mob to the capital to seize power from old and weak rulers who were afraid of his marxist rivals. communist and marxist members of the italian parliament were arrested, expelled, and often executed under Mussolini; he very famously said that "this is the century of authority, a century tending to the right-wing, a Fascist century," that "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power," and that "socialism is a fraud, a comedy, a phantom, a blackmail." if anything, his rhetoric circa mid-1920s is indistinguishable from mainstream right-wing rhetoric today. all of you are fascists, and you're dumb enough to believe everybody is a socialist, because the angry man on your phone screen said so right?
If there is one thing about this that sticks around to this day:
People still dont know what a socialist is but will use it randomly on things they dont like.
imagine having the power of the internet nowadays and refusing to do research for like 2 seconds on what you're labeling something...
Not communism, just common sense. My favorite President
Nope, you're a communist.
Americans: complain about rising costs and inflation
Also Americans whenever a politician actually tries to improve things for struggling people: SoCiAlIsM!!1!1!11!
The inflation is because of socialism lmao
'Oh gee the nation on the frontline of the cold war and the nation who basically works 24/7 so that the Liberal order in the world functions turns out to be opposed to socialism who could have guessed it' honestly context is released from you, I support this type of attitude as much as anyone does. But still if any of us where in their position we'd be the exact same, if not worse. It wasn't only 200 years ago that we were calling people bloodthirsty revolutionaries for wanting what we now would consider basic democratic rights.
@Dfoskdty frontline? The frontline ran through the heart of Europe. We were at the front line. Also socialism and communism is not the same. Plus this clip is set at a time long before the cold war
@Alex-cc8yf you know what I mean. It was americans who objectively fought the Soviets the most in pretty much all major cold war conflicts. Like Vietnam, Korea (yes, I know korea was a un coalition, but the Americans responded first), and it was Americqn tanks facing down the Soviets in October 1961. So yeah, in terms of fighting, they were on the frontlines more often than the Europeans. I mean, for christ sake do you know what the Cuban Missile Crisis was? A nuclear confrontation in Americas backyard.
And yes I know Socialism and Communism ain't the same, but as Vladamir Lenin Once said 'the goal of socialism is communism' and seeing as the US were fighting Marxist Leninism and because all other forms of socialism in the world were either non existent or weak, you can't exactly fault them for having this mentality.
Also, I love how you're acting as if most of Europe didn't have this idea about Socialism, face it America wasn't unique in its ferverant anti socialism, it was a thing of the time and if your going to bring up Bismarkian state socialism in the german empire I need to inform you that it wasn't exactly socialism it was pretty light social democracy which is a form of capitalism.
@Dfoskdty once again: aaaaaaall of what you just listed in this long paragraph happened waaay after the time of this scene. None of it is an argument for this attitude at that time. Also, the US had proxy wars. The ones who suffered the most from these wars were the people of the countries that had to serve as the battlefield of two power-hungry superpowers. I feel like this should be mentioned. And just because Lenin said something doesn't make it objectively true. So yea I can and do blame anyone who ever generalizes shit and hates something just out of spite. It's just immature and quite frankly harmful
WE NEED ANOTHER TEDDY
I'm culturally conservative, socially liberal, and economically left wing, a hunter, a fisherman, a conservationist, and a public land rights advocate.
Nobody in office comes within a light year of representing me.
He’s my favorite president of all time
Guess you like genocide and imperialism (policies by roosevelt). But I guess that’s to be expected from a socialist
Theodore Roosevelt also once said..
“I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feebleminded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them… The emphasis should be laid on getting desirable people to breed…”
Roosevelt, “Twisted Eugenics,” in The Works of Theodore Roosevelt, op. cit., National Edition, XII, p. 201.
Good president 👍
Franklin too
@fredmasse6451 yes indeed, FDR was a great president. Pulled thru some of the toughest times we've ever gone thru as Americans
JFK was a great President too!
Teddy: "That leaves just 19 for you. That's not much."
Hal Peters the Corn Farmer: "You're right Teddy. The information I conveniently left out was that I was the one fortunate enough to own the land the railroad was planned to go through. The rail company offered me a small fortune for the land which has allowed me to live my life in relative comfort and afford to sell my corn at abysmal exchange rates, unlike the rest of my peers."
That’s how the corporations win. They convince you that human rights are unamerican.
Theodore is my favorite President. A Libertarian and a naturalist. Count me in.
Imagine thinking workers should be treated well is a bad thing. Absolutely bonkers
Guy basically said "I want people to enjoy living here" and the first response was just "your gonna ruin the country" some people are just crazy
You dont see that anymore nowadays, getting to know your opponent rather than make an enemy out of them and actually discuss each others points rather than point fingers and say you are wrong and I hate you for it. That hand shake was like "Ah nice to meet you, I want to discuss our differences and maybe have a beer after."
What Ted is preaching sounds nothing like socialism and a whole lot more like corporatism, in which corporations and the working class are encouraged to “work together.” This was the economic model used by fascist Italy.
Class cooperation isn't a bad thing at all. Fascists also ate food, should we stop doing that? 😂 classism is a disgusting thing that should be abolished, class systems shouldn't exist at all.
CORN
FYI that’s not what his voiced sounded like, it was a lot more high pitched, and also keep in mind he was from New York
Good presentation style. In the 1904 election, both candidates had just about the exact same platform. The only difference was personality, and you can see here why Teddy won big.
God, what i'd give for another Teddy Roosevelt
People here don't understand the actual argument.
The reason he's calling him a socialist is not because he's calling out corporate greed, but because he's prefacing it from a division of class pov.
"They have to stop being bad, we are good".
This is the kind of argument that often comes before socialist bullshit.
I love Theodore Roosevelt more rhan anyone else. I still would've said the same thing if someone I didn't know came into town and started saying "THE CORPORATIONS ARE OPPRESSING US". Especially if the American dream is to specifically own a corporation
Cooperation are refusing to pay a living wage and lobbying the hell out of your government, it's oppression with more steps
Teddy was a progressive nationalist he wanted corporatism under state acquiescence to maximize citizen collaboration
@@rapecelnationalist I know, my point is just that people calling him a socialist isn't some sort of "corporatist propaganda" like some people are saying.
@@Nationaliberty Ah I gotcha. I agree I think it was good to show how counterintuitive reactionary conservatives are towards actual nationalist policies.
And yet the corporations were oppressing them then, as they are now. It hasnt really changed. Corpos want a captive market and they certainly dont want to share that with any jumped up entrepenurs. Its their game, not ours.
So, naturally, the government must create a railroad cartel to prevent the small railroads from competing with the politically connected railroads.
Funny that we're still having this same conversation today over and over
I am a firm believer that we could always use another bull moose in the White House. He was the type of man I would’ve been proud to have voted for.
The content of Teddy’s speeches is quite literally second to none. But the man himself (ironically for the bull moose that he was) had a very high pitched,nasally voice. Makes portraying him a tough task for sure
That's because the railroad has to maintain tracks, an advanced piece of machinery, the fuel to power it, and the specialist to drive it.
TR was one of the first presidents to have his voice recorded, and let me tell ya... TR was a badass in every aspect but his voice. He had the wimpiest voice ever, and nothing like what is depitcted here.
American nationalist and moderate. Fought big corporations that had a monopoly on a lot if cities, fought for national parks, food health codes, military spending, etc.
Haven't had a president as good as him since. Haven't had any antitrust laws established since. Nobody else had the balls he did when it came to holding corporations to a high but very fair standard. So glad seeing this man get some recognition!
We need Teddy back
In the days before amplification technology, you would have really needed to shout your speeches. Especially if you are speaking outside like this.
I wish we could have someone be like Roosevelt today. These two candidates today are a disater.
Teddy Roosevelt was a solid guy😊😊
To think we used to have men like this running our country. Now we have someone with Alzheimer's who would die if the wind blew too hard.
I loved listening to his dad!
I wish we’d see a man like TR in the office again.
We need more people like Theodore Roosevelt in today's world (not just in the US). The big corporations keep getting richer and us, the regular folk just keep getting poorer. Hell, most of the time we are considered expendable at best or an inconvenient problem to be "dealt with" at worst.
I'm not very nationalistic but I always found the history of Teddy to be extremely compelling. He did as much good for the people of this land as any man, especially a president
We need teddy in the modern century. He knew exactly what to do
idk how true that was but he is essentially telling me that the producer of corn also had to pay for the shipment of corn to his buyers, which to me is dumb cuz it should be the buyer who pays for the shipment
"Socialist!" Hal, my man, we wish, but that praise isn't accurate...
For those who don't know, socialism at least in the modern sense generally advocates for the struggle of the workers (sellers of labour power) against the capitalists (owners of private industries), while class collaboration similar to what Teddy is talking about was historically advocated for mainly by left-wing reformists, liberals, and fascists/nazis. This ideology of so-called "social harmony"is sometimes called corporatism. It is true that some who call themselves socialists or even communists actually advocate for class collaboration instead of class struggle (just look at the "Communist" leadership in China), but Teddy himself didn't use the term, and regardless as a general rule it would be more accurate to call people like him social patriots or populists.
Imagine a Republican saying this now. This is the kind of populism that would actually help.
Literally the one president I wish I could’ve seen alive the most
Teddy saved us from monopolies and mega corps. He also saved the American landscape, wildlife and native reservations by creating national parks.
Life and politics is about balance. Neither left or right is correct. The middle is in a fine balance
That's dumb.
@@KingZNIN dumb but true
“Come together..” “socialist 💅”… Everyone: 😐…… “We should come together!”
Teddy would be a political enigma in todays society. Patriot to the point where the left would call him a fascist and anti corporation and strong environmentalist the right would call him a socialist. Teddy was one of the few presidents that governed for betterment of the ENTIRE country and not just one political voting side.
Socialism is in your best interest not large corporations preach it