LS | FINAL CAREER RECAP - Trajectory, Philosophies, Controversies & The Future ft. DonJake

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    1:35 Where do you find it within yourself to dream again? (Motivation)
    11:00 Why makes game enter stagnation (and what even is that)?
    21:27 My Philosophy in the Way I See League of Legends
    33:48 One of My Biggest Frustrations with League Esports (Refusing to Change)
    39:27 Non-experts Hiring Experts
    42:30 Discernibility in League Esports
    50:09 Engaging with My Arguments, Not Me
    55:39 30 Years of Harassment (Growing Up and How It Affected Me)
    1:15:45 "I'm an Eccentric Person"
    1:22:18 Drama
    1:38:20 bbq Olivers Age
    1:44:48 Nightblue3 and ProfessorAkali
    1:55:46 Why respond to people?
    2:00:41 TF Blade and Why I Try Helping As Much as I Can
    2:16:50 Management in Esports Teams
    2:31:33 Talking with Faker
    2:40:35 Max Waldo
    2:49:07 What Needs to Change for League to Evolve
    3:00:00 Losing Passion (Content Warning)
    3:20:00 Surviving the Void (Content Warning)
    3:24:35 My Failure (Content Warning)
    3:26:26 Maybe in Another Life... (How I Could Have Succeeded in Esports)
    3:32:50 Hope
    3:36:10 Money
    3:42:10 KURIBOH ATTACKS (Small Break)
    3:45:58 Smart People can be Dumb
    3:50:10 What if I Was Right?
    3:52:50 Intermission
    3:55:00 Chat Questions
    3:03:26 APA Catching Strays
    4:06:09 End
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Komentáře • 343

  • @LSXYZ9
    @LSXYZ9  Před 8 měsíci +469

    A lot of people in the comments here seem a bit confused. While this was said to be 1 of the final 2 streams, it meant to recap the year as now it has come to a close.
    While I am a bit in limbo atm (I stream on alt channel only recently and am extremely disappointed and frustratsd at the way the scene is), nothing definite has been determined. Both a calm and a sense of aloneness are present within me currently, and I'm not sure really to do. Ultimately everything is useless, because it's just repeating an endless cycle and everything feels futile when no one cares to entertain inaccuracy.
    While I mentioned I would continue to do bts stuff and other things (patchs, patreon, appear elsewhere etc) I'm not sure what else atm.
    This year was an eye-opener in that I attempted to do many things people asked or requested and I feel as a person I made massive ground in many ways, but in a bizarre twist of fate I feel more lost and confused on how things go. There's no worse feeling than being punished for trying to improve and improving, when you made the effort to improve for others.

    • @vermillio1789
      @vermillio1789 Před 8 měsíci +95

      I’ll assume since your goals are more pro-play oriented, this might not feel as fulfulling to you, but you really have changed many of us regular players perspectives and have provided a lot of entertainment over the years that brightened up our day. Whatever you decide to do, we will support you.

    • @Fr1kaD3ll37
      @Fr1kaD3ll37 Před 8 měsíci +28

      "LS aka League's Sisyphus" is tragically accurate. However your work is really important as its influencing how a lot of ppl at different levels of involvement in the League scene think about the game. Also the Gryffinn story arc is a major W.
      Being confronted with so much ugliness, taking time off or entirely quitting would be understandable, but be assured that there are a lot of people that value every piece of ur work.
      Whatever you do, i hope that you can find, share, enjoy and contribute to beauty; esports can be just that but there are plenty of other ways.

    • @griffins750
      @griffins750 Před 8 měsíci

      ⁠@@vermillio1789@LSXYZ9 ​​⁠​⁠Couldn’t have said it better!

    • @Obsoleek
      @Obsoleek Před 8 měsíci +3

      Thanks for clarifying this, What is the alt channel if thats public?

    • @owlson2527
      @owlson2527 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Awesomeoo100Just bugger off mate. He’s writing how he feels, it’s really difficult to do, if you’ve ever tried. It makes sense to the rest of us. You just canny read 😂

  • @daniel9918
    @daniel9918 Před 8 měsíci +42

    Hearing LS saying that he feels like his whole work was fruitless is so disheartening to me. If anything, at least he told me how we should think critically and question authority because sometimes the system really is broken. And that goes waaay beyond the game. Thank you LS. Also I really resonated with the part where you talk about feeling or not feeling empathy for others. I felt like you were describing me. I watched your videos not because I care much about the technical side of league but because you are a very inspiring person to me. Really smart, really well spoken, really hard working and willing to make a difference. Never thought I would find this kind of personal admiration from someone in the league of legends world. Like me, I believe there are many others who have been impacted and isnpired by who you are as a person, despite the context. I hope you're fulfilled in whatever path you decide to go

  • @gl3472
    @gl3472 Před 8 měsíci +241

    Bye LS, it’s been everyone :(

    • @sveinungskjelbred1321
      @sveinungskjelbred1321 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Is he leaving?

    • @quoccuong8388
      @quoccuong8388 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yes, like my dad and my wife

    • @kokoukaga9902
      @kokoukaga9902 Před 8 měsíci +2

      has he ever fully answer it? my copium is that he's taking a break until lcs/lck comes back

    • @MrEpbell
      @MrEpbell Před 8 měsíci

      @@sveinungskjelbred1321no, see his pinned comment

    • @andyhuynh2625
      @andyhuynh2625 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@kokoukaga9902 he hasn't full on answered if he's leaving or not. It is up in the air, but he doesn't see a point in costreaming anymore

  • @kayaxe
    @kayaxe Před 8 měsíci +58

    Sat through the entire 4 hours and I just gotta say, you may not think you deserve anything, but we think you do. You don't have to deserve a break or a peace of mind. Just have it. So much respect for you LS, wishing you the very best :)

  • @philnyethescienceguy438
    @philnyethescienceguy438 Před 8 měsíci +112

    I've always respected your upcoming and cherished your unending mentality for improvement. You've been a real gift to us. Good luck going foward.

  • @rawenzz5965
    @rawenzz5965 Před 8 měsíci +19

    Hey LS, I’ve watched you on and off for the past 3-4 years. Although you were introduced to me via synapse rage clips, when I was eventually suggested you content by a friend I enjoyed a lot of what I saw. I really respect your passion for improvement and optimization, and your determination to stand your ground on your beliefs and argue logically whether you are right or wrong. It’s so rare to see people debate over actual ideas rather than just throw personal insults at each other on the internet. Apathy is a difficult thing to deal with, and a sense of futility is one of the hardest things to get rid of. It’s easy to look at the big picture and feel that you are irrelevant, only an individual swimming against the current. As everyone has different ways of finding motivation and purpose, it would be patronizing and ignorant for me to tell you what to do. Thank you for the fun and enlightening times, and I hope you find what fulfills you, whether it be something new or old.

  • @osthato5964
    @osthato5964 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Excited to watch this this week when I get a chance. Love you dude, just do what YOU want to do. We'll be here.

  • @jareddavulture58
    @jareddavulture58 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I havnt played league in a number of years now but have stayed connected to the scene through you. Bittersweet feeling if we will end up not seeing you for some time but I appreciate all you’ve done. Was fun as hell.

  • @shotgunorange
    @shotgunorange Před 8 měsíci +6

    Im glad both of you are through the dark times. A while ago I was living a life i had worked hard for years to achieve. It led me to that dark place too. Change was scary and burned a lot of bridges but it saved my life. Thanks for opening up about it. Never comment on youtube but this korero had huge mana, kia kaha.

  • @thesleepykidkoszmar6039
    @thesleepykidkoszmar6039 Před 8 měsíci +26

    Hey LS, it's a long time viewer. Maybe not the longest, I cant say i was around in your StarCraft days, but ive been watching your content since that very old summoning insight video back on 2014 (with the wildturtle is gohan analogy lmao) and i thought your philosophy on the game has always been rather beautiful. I think a lot of what you've talked about over the years can and will make an impact if the game lasts long enough. New talent will always need to find an edge, and once they do that will become the new normal until another edge is found, slowly creeping up the level of play. Unfortunately though as someone who watches sports it can sometimes take years for innovation to break through. I think that quote you posted on Twitter is sadly real, that conversion is nearly impossible but convincing people fresh to the game is possible.

  • @BGNATION69
    @BGNATION69 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I remember a couple years back when you were casting lck I always hoped it was you casting that day. You made it feel different and great, giving other pov on how to play the game etc. Thanks for everything and good luck moving forward!

  • @robotastic8422
    @robotastic8422 Před 8 měsíci +36

    First! Whatever you decide on doing next, I loved your costreams and casting for lck and you are one of the people that got me invested in watching competitive league

  • @rianjin
    @rianjin Před 8 měsíci +1

    havent seen whole video, but ive been following you since s4-s5 and youve been and always will be my favourite league content creator. always gonna support you in whatever you do

  • @nidki8729
    @nidki8729 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I personally found your talks about other competitive games outside of League of Legends the most interesting part of your content. The way you combine game theory with knowledge of poker, MtG and SC2 to explain to someone who doesn't really play MOBAs was very refreshing to see. I hope you find what drives you to create soon. It's a blast to watch you create content, be it talk shows with Tarzaned or drafting with Pvvdr.

  • @JinchurikiDemon
    @JinchurikiDemon Před 8 měsíci +3

    I've been a long time viewer but never comment. But I wanted to say that I've really enjoyed your content over the years and I think you've always been a great contribution to the League scene overall. Your time at LCK as a caster was some of the most fun I've had watching professional league.

  • @alexanderanderson6584
    @alexanderanderson6584 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I love this interview so much. Thanks for being willing to put it up for the world to see. Such a big fan of your work and your work ethic. If I ever visited Korea, and I happened to meet you, I’d love to buy you a drink and just chat. Whatever the future holds for you, never forget that you made an impact with your work. 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @teeheeyuh
    @teeheeyuh Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you for all of the content through-out the years, 2 yr long sub and enjoyed every stream

  • @HienLeGia
    @HienLeGia Před 8 měsíci +2

    Blessed for VODs being recorded

  • @TheSlyLego
    @TheSlyLego Před 8 měsíci +48

    Thanks for changing the way I think about the game LS your content and game knowledge helped me become a better player and learn to see the game from other angles. Your impact on the community will be felt forever thanks goat!

  • @Kingdom0324
    @Kingdom0324 Před 8 měsíci +3

    hey ls, thank you for being so open about your autism, i feel very similar to how you describe yourself. i.e. having trouble in relating with others, being hyper fixated, etc. ive never tested but i seem to understand myself more because of you. thank you for being so open.

  • @flybandito
    @flybandito Před 8 měsíci

    I haven't had the time to fully watch the video, just grabbing bits and pieces as I go about my day: But I am genuinely going to miss having you in the community as well just in general being able to consume your content LS. Your mentality both in and out of game, your blunt and open book nature to speaking about your life and your struggles has in many ways helped me. God speed, and I personally hope to see more content of yours in the near future, whatever it may be.

  • @parthjain9008
    @parthjain9008 Před 8 měsíci

    Dude, been here long enough to knwo you are such an amazing soul. I cannot even imagine this space without you

  • @spectrumofl
    @spectrumofl Před 8 měsíci +2

    Best of luck for the future man you deserve it.

  • @mattheawfrederick5696
    @mattheawfrederick5696 Před 8 měsíci

    Was long and i had to keep coming back to finish it, but i loved this, very insightful. i actually couldn't wait to come back and finish it. I don't if it means much but your philosophy has helped me both get better at the game and fall back in love with it. sincerly thanks for the dedication and passion that you've had for the scene.

  • @Hyajae
    @Hyajae Před 8 měsíci +10

    I have been a long time viewer, and just want you to do what you enjoy, because thats what we enjoy as a viewer. Whatever path you go down.

  • @nathanrain796
    @nathanrain796 Před 7 měsíci +3

    @LSXYZ9 I've been watching you for almost a decade. Your unrelenting devotion to improvement and perfection, has been an inspiration to me and many others. Know that no matter what you do, there are hundreds if not thousands wishing you the best of luck.

  • @minnesotasteve9382
    @minnesotasteve9382 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Really great interview to listen to while playing Last Epoch. Very chill. 😀 Hopefully I get to see the LS/Atlas casting paring again. "KRAM". "playing ping pong" and countess other phrases are so entertaining.

  • @andresurena7575
    @andresurena7575 Před 8 měsíci +10

    I hope you don't leave us, I am a League coach currently coaching in NA amateur and you've been such a hige inspiration to me, you have no idea how important you are for some of us, I hope you stay but whatever you decide I just wish you the best, O hope one day I can be as good as you are, hope you the the best in all future projects, you are really importat for us ❤

  • @FishcalledPhil
    @FishcalledPhil Před 8 měsíci +22

    DonJake is such a breath of fresh air that the LoL Scene needed

  • @brisankatarafder6395
    @brisankatarafder6395 Před 8 měsíci

    I don't know what the future holds but I wish for the best for you. And if it's really the end then thank you for the wild journey that I've got to witness in the league scene and in your life since I started watching you from 2019. Thank you so much for everything. ❤

  • @ckrueger7488
    @ckrueger7488 Před 8 měsíci

    Always love your streams and insightful videos ❤

  • @dragomaster2422
    @dragomaster2422 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I love and appreciate the content you made for this game. I hope that the game continues to grow for a long time, but I also wish that you do things that you enjoy and make you happy LS. Much love from everyone. ❤

  • @Klaudijux77
    @Klaudijux77 Před 8 měsíci

    LS, I wanted to thank you for the work you've put into everything, I appreciate and respect what you've done. Because of you, I learnt a lot about league and thinking in general. In a strange way, you've helped me tremendously to become a person I myself can be proud of. I think you're a great man yourself, too. I hope your future will be bright :)

  • @laiierNL
    @laiierNL Před 8 měsíci

    your early videos helped me immensely, thanks ls

  • @EthanAddam
    @EthanAddam Před 8 měsíci +12

    Only caught some of this stream and know that a follow up video about the future is coming, but LS I think I speak for many people when I say we’d watch you do content other than league/esports. You used to say you wouldn’t because the viewership+money wouldn’t follow / you didn’t have the passion or expertise for it, but since you’re retiring from league why not give it a shot anyways right? There’s also definitely creators in other spaces ready to welcome you with open arms. Iirc PChal once invited you to participate in pokemon showdown tournaments before for example. And seeing LS’ take on the riot MMO or DOTA would be sick too.
    Regardless, all the best for the future and whatever path you choose. We all loved watching you and the way you thought about the game.

  • @sammy8749
    @sammy8749 Před 8 měsíci +80

    the end draws near. bye everyone, its ls :/ we’ll miss you so dearly

    • @titanattackbee1985
      @titanattackbee1985 Před 8 měsíci +2

      hes not gone, he "quit" many years in a row lol

    • @LSXYZ9
      @LSXYZ9  Před 8 měsíci +45

      @titanattackbee1985 I've never made a quitting video or comment before, last year I said I was pondering it and it would've depended on the results of my diagnostic testing etc. So what you're saying is untrue. This is the first time.

    • @dnd402
      @dnd402 Před 8 měsíci

      @@titanattackbee1985 man people LOVE making shit up.

    • @wjx250
      @wjx250 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@LSXYZ9Sorry you have to put up with these comments.

    • @titanattackbee1985
      @titanattackbee1985 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@LSXYZ9 What happened happened, you cant outdebate someone on actual historical facts. He said hes quitting many times before and I can confirm it with my IRL memory of remembing IRL events

  • @slimthug166
    @slimthug166 Před 8 měsíci +1

    You're a forward thinker and pioneer in a space enjoyed by millions. Hope you figure out what you're missing and where your place is on this earth. Enjoyed your content for years and wish you nothing but the best brother. Keep your chin up!

  • @samuelestes6034
    @samuelestes6034 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I haven't gotten the chance to watch the video yet. If you are actually gone though LS thanks for all the content over the years and I hope life treats you well.

  • @plant6626
    @plant6626 Před 8 měsíci

    Hey LS, viewer who heard of you through c9 when I came for high level analysis about League of Legends gameplay I ended up staying for your good vibes and energy. Please never change and live your best life.

  • @CzarlsV
    @CzarlsV Před 8 měsíci

    LS you still are my favorite league streamer. I watch your videos to learn and see another point of view

  • @koloblicin7
    @koloblicin7 Před 8 měsíci

    every single time you did any of these long talking videos you inspired me
    to think how i can be ahead of the future
    yes we fail we fall
    WE RISE

  • @jorgenafagervik
    @jorgenafagervik Před 8 měsíci

    Watched you since I started high school. I’m now graduating university and just wanted to thank you for all the years

  • @onyx5448
    @onyx5448 Před 8 měsíci

    LS, love you man, just remember that you helped a whole bunch of us silver and gold players understand the game and improve. We might not be your target audience, but we sure do appreciate you and your teachings. Would love to see the following videos from you, 1# crit vs lethality and when to use, #2 magic pen vs burns and when to use , #3 a fresh guide on freezing lane and lane management part 1, lane management and proper back timings part 2. Just some ideas if you dont feel like streaming but want to teach some more. Much Love from Alaska.

  • @exedra8649
    @exedra8649 Před 8 měsíci +42

    You were the first to transform how I viewed league and I have the utmost respect for any decision you decide to make at this stage LS. You may believe you've failed but as DonJake said, I believe the seeds that you've sown will grow to bear fruit, just a matter of time.

    • @guitar1104
      @guitar1104 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Came here to say this. Was super impressed how DonJake was able to liken that to past scientists/genius' who get written off later on are the ones looked back at as the most influential

  • @MauriceGucci
    @MauriceGucci Před 8 měsíci

    Wishing you all the best, LS!

  • @StefKRah
    @StefKRah Před 7 měsíci

    Lmao that intermission haha, Can't believe i've waatched all of this... JK guys keep the good work up LS I'll watch every 4 hour video you upload bro !

  • @Baleandor
    @Baleandor Před 8 měsíci

    What an awesome interview! I'd love to see LS get into competitive warhammer 40k. We all know he's gonna be ignored by the devs, but the players will be easier to reach. I'm curious what he'll find in that sandbox.

  • @popoffrotmg981
    @popoffrotmg981 Před 8 měsíci

    hey ls, long time watcher, infrequent commenter, I just really wanted to let you know that regardless of success in the pro scene, I've always found you to be an incredibly inspiring figure and I've always enjoyed hearing your insights about league, and I wish you nothing but the best with your future regardless, of the path that it goes.

  • @spamonfire1472
    @spamonfire1472 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey LS, I've been watching you since 2015 I think and am pretty bummed how this chapter ends. You are one of Leagues sons that didn't get to enjoy the sun as much as they should have and I've seen literally all the dark times you've shown at least to the public, and also dearly enjoyed the good times you were able to have from time to time. You certainly did not fail in my eyes, you've helped me view the world with more critical eyes when I was a lost anxious teen in a random basement playing league on 100 ping while being in a host family across the world, you've also helped me be empathic when you continue to advocate for the things and also importantly people you believe in, even when seemingly everyone hates what you have to say. I've seen you and mex doing a mtg card trade with a pervy korean dude and your mouse stories, you and neme and the rants about renekton, you promising a glimpse of hope of a shift in meta through c9 and all the european newcomer pros that you tried to guide towards niche picks, your times helping fudge and all the others see the light of the church you've created. I could literally go on and on, I can't bear to see you leave League and it takes away yet another motivation for me to play it. I know tho that leaving it might relieve you of all the hate, the stress and the darkness it caused at times. You will still be the major motivation for me to finally see seoul this year, I can't wait to see all the good and bad you've told me about it. Please to the best of your ability enjoy life, enjoy great korean food, hang out with the people that stuck with you along the way and perhaps even one day rekindle the broken friendship with neme, I'd hope that one works out in the end for both of you. Whatever you will move to next, if it will be streamed or on youtube, I will likely be there watching. I hope you see this and all the other comments as proof that you didn't fail in your missions, even if you might be convinced that you did ❤

  • @GruesomeSkunk
    @GruesomeSkunk Před 8 měsíci

    I really enjoyed the interview thank you, I appreciate the piss coaching too!

  • @emilefrancis2579
    @emilefrancis2579 Před 7 měsíci

    take care. you inspire me.

  • @maskedswan85
    @maskedswan85 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The 41 minute mark where you both talk about work ethic and that your arguably both grinders. I totally know what LS is speaking about, I was working 60-70 hour work weeks in esports and I know for a fact that most people where clocking in half the time I was but still claimed over time when it would have been amazing to see what work they did if it wasn’t during a production.
    Most people working in esports don’t even play games was the single most socking but made so much sense as to why the scene is in shambles, not just in league but in general.

    • @maskedswan85
      @maskedswan85 Před 8 měsíci

      I reached 3:04:30, and I didn't expect this topic to come up, but it made me leave and now reflect with an arm stretched out to ask myself the question. Do I want to go back to esports... ever? Not really, unless it's on my own terms. There are a lot of people in power that shouldn't be, there are more who are genuinely stealing pay checks, and there are even more people who get over worked and underpaid and promised they will get a payrise or promotion soon but never do.
      I can't say enough how much hearing this chat has helped reframe a lot of trauma I had this year in a much healthier way, that how I was treated was fucked and that, sadly others experience thee same in the industry.

  • @ragingblast732
    @ragingblast732 Před 8 měsíci +15

    I’ve hardly commented or interacted with you but I have been a viewer of your content for the past 3 years.
    I truly thank you for providing me with entertainment and knowledge surrounding this game and scene for a long time. I’ve learnt a lot from you and have enjoyed every piece of content you have put out. My experience with League will definitely not be the same without having your content to turn to and indulge in whether it be for entertainment or for my development as a player. Your co-streams will forever be my favourite.
    I understand things have never been easy for you, and it definitely isn’t easy to make a decision like this. But i wish you the best with all future endeavours in all walks of life. And I hope that at some point you can return having improved, but of course that is just what I would want and not what might be good for you.
    Also thank you for leaving us with Gryffin, I hope he is able to make his mark in this scene and to be a part of your legacy too.
    I’ll make sure to type Last Shadow every time i wanna buy liandrys.
    Take care ❤️

  • @WBRamsesIII
    @WBRamsesIII Před 8 měsíci

    Need the 24 hour cut. I could listen to you guys talk forever

  • @hardchaser
    @hardchaser Před 8 měsíci

    Hello LS, I'm basketball coach who lost job and last 3 years I change my way to become a league coach. I am learning and watching your old coaching sessions and I just want to say thanks you. No matter what I will continue your philosophy about league and coaching and give it to players which I coaching. Take my biggest support and mamba mentality for fight against world of haters. I will go one vs all. Thanks you

  • @JetLee1544
    @JetLee1544 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Wow end of an era ❤
    Perhaps a comeback when everyone plays LOL VR/AR in 10 years? 😁

  • @RGCDTB
    @RGCDTB Před 8 měsíci +1

    I can't believe you're leaving ls you offered me hope in a stagnant game

  • @Schillerverse
    @Schillerverse Před 8 měsíci +1

    7 minutes in, felt the need to comment.
    This is GREAT.
    Love the vibe and discussion flow.

  • @octavioavila6548
    @octavioavila6548 Před 8 měsíci

    This interviewer asks really really good questions. Very sophisticated and intelligent questions

  • @imkizuki
    @imkizuki Před 8 měsíci

    Would really want this on Spotify, so I could listen to it at work.

  • @Oblivion9873
    @Oblivion9873 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm with don jake on the bit near the end about LS deeming himself to have failed. I do think that there hasn't been enough time to have fully determined that.

  • @futurebeyond3043
    @futurebeyond3043 Před 8 měsíci

    I remember one of my professors in college said something along the lines of "history is spiral not a circle." Things will repeat but each iteration will be slightly different and generally heading upwards. I think although you failed by your own metrics, you have succeeded in the eyes of many. You have succeeded not because of your following or your financial status, but rather that you did bring a new perspective of analytical and critical thinking to a wider audience. At the minimum, you accelerated the upwards path of the spiral. You may not have been able to pull League out of that path but you have made tangible and noticeable contributions to changing its trajectory. It might not matter to you, but in my eyes that is success.

  • @ThatLuckyKill
    @ThatLuckyKill Před 8 měsíci +9

    Hey its LS, my finals words are "R1 Renekton R2 Lee Sin" Bye

  • @onetakehoovie5955
    @onetakehoovie5955 Před 8 měsíci

    The ls variety stream arc has begun

  • @eazyz2267
    @eazyz2267 Před 8 měsíci +7

    Bye LS, it's been everyone :(

  • @orestestza
    @orestestza Před 8 měsíci

    Whatever you do next is up to you and I wish you the best. Don't be sad that you failed. Become wiser and focus on the future. Also invest time into your mental health because imo this is the only thing that is holding you back from reaching your full potential. Look for experts for guidance and people that have already overcome similar problems. That's the most fundumental thing yet very few people take care of it (I'm referring to their mental health). It is not random that the cases of depressed/anxious etc. people are increasing nowadays.

  • @Genpsalm
    @Genpsalm Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @Zelozxs
    @Zelozxs Před 8 měsíci

    I agree with the league stagnation period, i quit in season 10 and came back recently and it seems like nothing has changes

  • @SuperPeter721
    @SuperPeter721 Před 8 měsíci

    Hey LS, i don't normally comment on videos but i hope you find what makes you happy. Maybe come to the RTS communities like AoE4 or dune, we tend to be more open to analytical perspectives and criticism. Anyways, whatever you end up doing will be great and i wish you the best of luck in the future

  • @Nicolas-wl3qm
    @Nicolas-wl3qm Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think the moment that interested me the most was when donjake talked about deserving to feel peace.
    I think it encapsulates a lot about LS there, he is right in a logical way but any human being would agree with donjake there because in that discussion it just feels like logic doesn't fucking matter and LS cannot understand how that's a thing

  • @wifiman98
    @wifiman98 Před 8 měsíci

    At roughly 27:00 when LS describes Monty Hall problem (3 doors: 2 goats/1 car) if you do not get why changing your door is the right choice, imagine 100 doors instead and game show host opens 98 doors instead of 1. Your chance for success now shoots through the roof if you change door choice because the host is demonstrating what doors can hold the prize. If the host randomly chose doors to open and one of them happened to have the prize in it then the scenario breaks down. Due to the requirement that the prize door cannot be opened by the host it increases your chance of success by switching door choice.

  • @bedviere
    @bedviere Před 8 měsíci

    cheers mate

  • @space3996
    @space3996 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I'm just a silver player, but becasue of you I think about every item purchase I make and how it relates to the game, I might not always be right, but I try to make the effort now

  • @Magihyun
    @Magihyun Před 8 měsíci +2

    When you have deep childhood trauma, your entire life is just finding different masks and interests to block these memories or cope with them. Hard to actually function as a normal person and keep healthy relationships with other people. It goes well for months and then another hell. Source: my own life.

  • @B3nkeii
    @B3nkeii Před 8 měsíci +1

    Im straight LS but I like you so much I'll play bottom for you. Wish you all the best❤

  • @user-cf5cy8rb5y
    @user-cf5cy8rb5y Před 8 měsíci

    best podcast

  • @jacksonhester6747
    @jacksonhester6747 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Hope you don’t go LS but up to you ofc only started playing in 2020 and you made everything very digestible for me to watch Pro, wouldn’t be such a fan of LOL if not for you. Notably the draft dystopia video was a great hook for me lol

  • @felixidanpaan-heikkila4145
    @felixidanpaan-heikkila4145 Před 8 měsíci +1

    If it helps there's a quote by an intelligent man named Felix Lengyel that goes like "Streamers never really quit, it's a never ending cycle that you're stuck in"

  • @M1K14U2
    @M1K14U2 Před 8 měsíci

    in the Monthy Hall problem, the offer to change the doors increases the chance to 66%, not 50%😅

  • @Akuyosen
    @Akuyosen Před 8 měsíci +1

    Now if I am not mistaken the math mentioned by LS around min 26:00 the % chance should be 66% not 50%
    Probably a slip up from not having seen the math in a bit but maybe it's also a discernabiliy test (?
    So I thought I'd mention.

  • @Oblivion9873
    @Oblivion9873 Před 8 měsíci +1

    LS is wrong about the 3 doors thing. It's not 50/50 on changing it's actually 2/3rds due to how the math works out. It's even MORE important that you swap than he explained

  • @xMorphasis
    @xMorphasis Před 8 měsíci

    With the door problem its actually a 66% chance of winning if you change, not 50. Which I think further adds to the point

  • @fentherolar_f
    @fentherolar_f Před 8 měsíci

    goated youtuber

  • @niklasmitfussl2639
    @niklasmitfussl2639 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Hey LS! It's everyone!

  • @braydonbronson1983
    @braydonbronson1983 Před 8 měsíci +1

    LS saying he failed is wild to me. League may be dying but he as a person DID NOT FAIL. I may not have taken his teachings into league but rather into my everyday life. He made me slightly better at league but way better at life and as a father indirectly. He has 0 idea of the lives he has changed and helped by putting himself out there. It’s too hard not to see the negativity and I get it but I hope he can take a well needed break and get his head on right and see how much he has done.

    • @Gurpreet-sv5zg
      @Gurpreet-sv5zg Před 8 měsíci

      League isn't dying tho. LS channel is tho. Went from #1 co-streamer for LCK/LCS from the western scene due to falling off a cliff.

    • @braydonbronson1983
      @braydonbronson1983 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Gurpreet-sv5zg the game is being played more yes but the minds in the game are dead.

  • @bussinboots6616
    @bussinboots6616 Před 8 měsíci +2

    holy fuck bro LS why so many ads i'm trying to listen while playing league and i got 4 ads in 17 mins man that averages to 56 ads if i watch the whole video. im getting more ad then video love your work but god i don't love ads

    • @SEVRR
      @SEVRR Před 8 měsíci

      Premium isn’t that expensive lil bro 😎

  • @jordansarkisian
    @jordansarkisian Před 8 měsíci

    Man I can't believe LS hasn't even seen Pulp Fiction, what other beautiful things has he missed out on in life?!

  • @whydidimakethis111
    @whydidimakethis111 Před 6 měsíci

    26:39 So this is a famous problem in probability called the Monty Hall problem. I think LS fumbled the explanation a bit, the actual answer is that when you first select your door, you have a 2/3 chance of the riches not being in the door you select. This percentage doesn't change when the door with coal is revealed, and neither does the percentage of you getting the riches in the door you chose (1/3). Therefore, you should always switch after being revealed this information.
    He is right in that at the time (the problem was written to the magazine American Statistician in 1975), many people, include very smart people in stats and probability, refused to accept this as being the "right" choice.

  • @matthewandrews1653
    @matthewandrews1653 Před 8 měsíci

    I understand how much of what you've been trying to do must have just felt like shouting into the void, especially with regards to the state of pro play and the unnecessary hate which has been aimed towards you over the years.
    As someone who has followed you for a while I just wanna thank you for your perspectives on the game. It definitely always gave me something to think about and I felt like your way of thinking about League and talking about it ooozed a passion which reminded me of Patrick Chapin, who is another pro player (albeit in MtG) who I always respected for the way they looked at their game and tried to improve the knowledge of the overall playerbase, and most importantly not be afraid to try things which may be different to the status quo but is the only way real changes to the game can occur.
    Whatever you do from here on LS I hope you can find fulfillment and passion in it and I genuinely wish you all the best success as you definitely deserve it.
    Thanks for all your work

  • @ambrusmajor6149
    @ambrusmajor6149 Před 8 měsíci

    I think that while it may seem that you've failed to change the League scene individually, it is important to remember that without you there would be no advocate for your viewpoint, whereas now there is one. And that perspective has trickled over to many people, whether it is visible or not. History has taught us that many pioneers who were mocked in their day end up creating the foundation of now widely accepted modern methodologies and inventions. While this is in no way suggestive that you leave the scene, the key point is rather that growth and development takes time, and you've undoubtedly planted a seed that has the potential to grow in future iterations of the game and the League scene.

  • @banjoleb
    @banjoleb Před 8 měsíci

    Just to further elaborate on the point made at around 25:00 , when you first pick a door there is a 66% chance of picking a door with coal in it. When you are asked to change from door A to door B, you are essentially asked if you want to change your initial decision. Switching gives you a 66% of getting the door with diamonds.

    • @MeedLT
      @MeedLT Před 8 měsíci

      how is it 66%? Theres 2 doors and you don't know any additional information, its a 50/50 guess.
      If you're somehow keeping with the 3 choices chances, then the chance of the opened door by the host(not the player) gets divided up into 2, it doesn't transfer all of its chance to a singular door.
      Am i missing some additional information, why does door B get special inheritance from C when nothing was said about that?

    • @vorvv
      @vorvv Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@MeedLTbecause Monty will open the door that doesn't have the prize

  • @Written...
    @Written... Před 8 měsíci

    Wish there was access to the Red vs Blue playing style, and I really hate that there is so much LS content, but it is just unfindable because his channel is bogged down with regularly posted content. A 2nd channel with information dense/ guide-type videos would be FUCKING PREMIER for you LS.

  • @damionallen938
    @damionallen938 Před 8 měsíci

    As a guy in chat representative I apologize for asking things that have been documented for years and not doing my own research.

  • @octavioavila6548
    @octavioavila6548 Před 8 měsíci +3

    So what I got from this video is that the e-sports industry, the gaming industry, or perhaps only the League of Legends e-sports space is very nepotistic and hence not meritocracious.
    People end up at jobs not because of their skills but because they know the right people and because of other superficial reasons. That's why they have to reject LS's way of thinking. Because if they made their decisions based on LS's way of thinking, which is just optimized game theoretical strategic logic, the entire League of Legends esports structure would have to get reorganized in such a way that it would lead to many people being fired that don't want to be fired and other people don't want fired. It would lead to people's friends and romantic partners being fired or demoted in order to make space for more skilled individuals. All would be done in service of the most efficient logically demonstrable strategy.
    But the people in the space don't want to care for upholding such ideals because of what they would have to sacrifice to do so.
    It would be like bringing the ruthless rigor of the ranked ladder to the jobs and titles of the esports industry. And who wants to willingly subject their livelihood to such rigor if they can obtain the benefits without doing so? They would rather bypass being objectively assessed for competence. They are elo boosting themselves in the real world.
    All of this combined is tainting the quality of the esports industry. It is preventing it from being what it could be.

    • @Gurpreet-sv5zg
      @Gurpreet-sv5zg Před 8 měsíci

      Nah he's just upset because he's been falling off a cliff in regards to relevancy. Viewership numbers dropping fast. Caedrel immediately smashed him as the go to LCK co-streamer. LS went from #1 channel for LCS co-stream to a distant 3rd.

    • @octavioavila6548
      @octavioavila6548 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Gurpreet-sv5zg Your perspective seems to be that LS is critical of the League of Legends e-sport scene at this point in time due to him getting less popular.
      In other words, LS' criticisms, in your view, are mostly a result of negative emotion caused by the League of Legends viewership paying less attention to him.
      In essence, the negative impact to his revenue that is the result of him getting less views has caused him to now view the League of Legends e-sports industry in a negative light.

    • @Gurpreet-sv5zg
      @Gurpreet-sv5zg Před 8 měsíci

      @@octavioavila6548 Be honest when is the last time you stopped smoking weed.

    • @octavioavila6548
      @octavioavila6548 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Gurpreet-sv5zg Regularly, I would say 2019. I think I took a hit last year though.
      However, was I accurate in my characterization of your view point?
      It seems that you support the view that LS’ judgment of the League of Legends e-sports industry is proportional to his performance as a streamer.
      Or that, at the very least, it seems that way as of recently, even if it wasn’t that way in the past.

  • @SifnTCG
    @SifnTCG Před 8 měsíci

    ❤❤❤

  • @MarfoNRG
    @MarfoNRG Před 8 měsíci +14

    @27:05 it's actually 66% in the door B, not 50/50. You got to imagine it as if you could choose between 1 door, or 2 doors knowing that 1 is demonstrated to not be "prize door" - so the other door "absorbs" the probability of the other door.

    • @AHK-ny2ix
      @AHK-ny2ix Před 8 měsíci +6

      It's still 50/50 lmao. One door being shown as not being the prize door makes it completely irrelevant. As such your choice is only between 2 doors. People just try to act as if the probability is higher because it's 3 doors total but it is not because you just act as if it never existed in the choice by showing that it is not the right one.

    • @philippschafer1762
      @philippschafer1762 Před 8 měsíci +8

      @@AHK-ny2ix Actually no. If you always change after one false door was opened, you win 66% of the time.
      If you chose the door with the price first, one of the other two gets opened, you change to the remaining one and you loose. If you choose one of the other two, the other one without a price gets opened, you change to the one with the price and you win. So you only loose if you chose the door with the price behind it initially wich is 1 in 3 and you win if you chose one of the ones with no price behind them wich are 2 in 3, so 66%.

    • @AHK-ny2ix
      @AHK-ny2ix Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@philippschafer1762 That doesnt make any sense. If you lose 33% of time by picking the door with the price that leaves you with a 66% chance to not lose initially. Or 33% chance to lose.
      But once you show that one door is opened and is not the prize, it becomes a 50/50. Because once that door got opened you have a 50% chance to win because you have 50% chance that staying on your door is right, and 50% chance that picking the other one is right.

    • @danielnizberg1754
      @danielnizberg1754 Před 8 měsíci +10

      @@AHK-ny2ix
      best way I found to explain it is add more doors
      if there are 100 doors, you choose one and then 98 of them are revealed to be wrong
      swapping to the last remaining door is far liklier to be the correct decision, since the chance of being wrong in the first place was much higher
      same thing with 3 doors, just a smaller sample size
      you're more likely to be wrong in your first decision, so sticking with that decision means you have a 33%

    • @AHK-ny2ix
      @AHK-ny2ix Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@danielnizberg1754 Still doesnt change anything.
      If you have 100 doors that leaves you with a 1/100 chance to be correct.
      Removing 98 doors brings that chance down to 1/(100-98) or 1/2
      Which is a 50/50. So yes your odds of being correct are much higher. That went from 1/100 to 1/2. But that other door doesnt magically get a 99% chance to be correct. Its probability of being correct just adapted to the amount of possible choices.
      That other door had a 1/100 possibility of being correct, just like your door. Therefor there is no reason for it to be more likely correct than the one you picked.

  • @resentfusion5634
    @resentfusion5634 Před 8 měsíci

    Haters gonna hate but LS the goat hope for nothing but the best for him.

  • @MrLeothedrummer
    @MrLeothedrummer Před 8 měsíci

    It's funny how many people here are proving LS statement about the Monty Hall Problem :D

    • @NerfMaster07
      @NerfMaster07 Před 8 měsíci

      Monty hall math is 2/3 if you switch

  • @xtianitygames6452
    @xtianitygames6452 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Ah yes Trayectory

  • @albertvives5422
    @albertvives5422 Před 8 měsíci +4

    He's gonna come back guys, don't worry

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 Před 8 měsíci

      I hope so. :(
      I love this man, he is a shining light in the league community, because he is one of the few people, who I know are like me, doing math, running strats and try improving league players as a hole.
      I already ran some math on the new league of legends stuff coming for next season and I was hoping for LSes opinion on it, but I fear that is not gonna come. :(

    • @saintsataniko2116
      @saintsataniko2116 Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah, he's had more fake retirements than Jay Z.