@@Runco990 my 9090is has not had a lot of problems. I got it for free back in the mid-80s because the owner didn't want to spend any money to fix it so I fixed it up and I've had it ever since I don't use it that much except for years without being used that's why all the dye lights still work and it's got a fair bit of power. I just don't think it sounds all that great. Distortional wise they're not that good none of the sensory stuff was that good distortion wise. I was using a Macintosh 1600 for years which is a tube amp and I've now been using a yaquin MC10T which has been a great little amplifier only 50 watts per channel but it sounds fantastic. Now I've got this crest vs 900 and holy crap that's the best sounding amplifier I've ever heard. I hear things that I never heard before like instruments that were just lost in the mud all of a sudden pop. That nylon strong acoustic guitar for example can be differentiated from the steel strung acoustic. Vocals holy crap are they ever clear. people can keep their vintage tech and maybe they like it because of the aesthetics because it looks neat with the all lit up dial are the meters or whatever my Crest amp is nothing to look at got a couple blinking lights on the front that's about it it sits on the shelf or it doesn't have to be looked at. But I'm not one for the vintage stuff myself but for those who want to overpay for this crap knocked himself out I wouldn't give you anything for it. I keep getting people asking me if I will sell them my 9090. Perhaps someday I will because the prices are stupid that people have offered me for it. You know if I needed the money I would have sold it a long time ago but I'm in a position where I don't need the money so I can just sit on it if it keeps going up in value maybe someday I will sell it but right now I'm in no hurry to move it I know it's not going to go down and value because stupid people will spend stupid amounts of money on stupid old equipment how's that answer your question
I have a mint late 60s 4000 and use it daily. It looks snd sounds great and I have had numerous 70s amps in the past 10 years. Yamaha ca1010 is the other one I hung onto for my main system, along with a sx-450 for the dining room.
I much prefer a totally manual turntable for my purposes. I have an old Sears turntable that I disabled the auto return and stop on because it would sometimes do it slightly before the end of the music on some records. All it took was putting a piece of tape in the right place. I was 14 or 15 at the time and now I'm 53 and that turntable still has that tape to disable that return mechanism and it still works great and it had counterweight and anti skate adjustments so you can put whatever cartridge you want on it.
never had a turntable from them, but i did have a Sansui cassete deck and it was great. it came reccomended to me from the salesman and i never had a problem with it in over a decade of use. guess either i lucked out or the reliability changed over time or depended on what type of equipment it was. the one i had was a 90's vintage
I do have such a ZannTschui as well, with the same issue. It's the swanky top of the line model, but got the same strange mechanics. So even one bought a top line model with some improvenents, they used basically the same problematic parts. My first guess is a worn out motor, elkos, rubber parts and sticky grease. Looks like ist's all of it. Thank You for sharing your experience. 🖖
I have a FR-D4 ! The tonearm mechanism is really bad. The clutch spring is loose, the rubbers are solid. I cannot and it will not be reliable to try to fix it. SO is there any way to make it MANUAL , without the computer thing ? I have been told about the white wire, to ground the white wire. Can you please suggest ? Thank you so much
I own a Sansui full system from the 80s..the amp is a909, tuner t-909, turntable p-l50,deck d99-d..been reliable for more than 30 years in fact better than other friends systems that ceased.. the turntable and deck just gave problems and was looking for solutions but came across not so nice rebrand...well not in my case and not defending the brand but for me an over 30 year electronic that's very good...and what brand that not problematic over years..if it's man made surely it will give up someday... Thanks for the reviews..m learning on this channel
San'sewage nice. I enjoyed your security series & would like to see you make a camera list. Cameras that are wireless & wired ones. And ones were you dont have to suscribe to a service. Finally your thoughts on the cloud for storage vs. a recorder. Hugh Mc. Chicago metro
Some manufacturers try to be too clever or too stupid with there designs. Basic is often more reliable. i've missed some of your videos dave, i've had the covid virus and it screwed me up for a bit. And Screwed me up mentally. What did you say, i was screwed up anyway lol :-D
I always appreciate when you sincerely explain why you hate certain material, I share your opinion about these... Most of these Sans Suie turntable were effectively poorly designed and manufactured, and not only with mechanical problems...I've also encountered bad electronic boards with speed regulation problems, bad caps, bad solders, brown goo of the death and so on. You could also find this kind of clutch elsewhere, as always a nightmare to maintain as it's difficult to find the exact materials or original unobtainable parts to replace rubber washers and so on. I've also tried some self adhesive felt pads cut to dimensions, and plumbing supply for small parts, but it's rarely an immediate success, as you sometimes also have to add (or remove) washers or change coils to adjust pressure. Rubber renew is also unavailable in Europe! Many of these full auto speed select engines also require a special rubber platter matte with holes and eventual alignment notches to operate, and guess what, most of these tend to decompose into an oily schmoo with time. Of course if you only play 33 1/3 rpm large discs, no problem.... With the fragility and difficult to adjust these turntables, (when the platter drops everytime you return the engine to check under the cover!), you easily get why technicians prefer simplicity with manual or semi automatic turntables... I still largely prefer a classic manual only Thorens, Lynn or Microseiki to a full auto high end Denon or Sony. Some classic Technics or Pioneer are also interesting, and can be good compromises for those in need of ease of use. I could also recommend some high end Denon, Yamaha or Kenwood, but these are still for the highest budget and can still need attention with aging components. However, saving these old machines also demonstrates the relative quality compared to what is actually massively sold, generally based on the same low cost even poorest plastic mechanism with an awfully sounding cartridge!
I've got one of these - FRD-55 which is the same tonearm drive with additional track sensors in front of the cartridge. Very finicky and is also missing the thin nylon clutch from the clutch assembly. Horrific thing to work on, I think you were very patient to even try.
Regarding measuring caps, or even measuring caps in circuit, you do use an ESR meter that looks like its custom built or a very old one. There are some models on the net, "ESR70 - Atlas ESR Gold - Equivalent Series Resistance Meter". What are your experiences here?
The esr / low ohms meter is one I built from a kit at least 30 years a go. It was a Dick Smith kit, but there have been others as well. Don't spend big bucks on a commercial meter, buy a kit and build your own. You will get satisfaction using it.
@@12voltvids Unfortunately soldering skills will be extinct in a few years from now, as well as general knowledge that we had earlier. I refer to the movie Idiocracy.
@@thomasraden that's right all the old techs are dropping light flies. The guy that I worked for for 20 years who was at tech himself just passed away last week. We're all getting older and all of us with the big brains won't be around to fix this stuff. The younger generation doesn't seem too interested in picking up the trade I don't blame them though I wouldn't do it either because there's no money in it. The owner of IT electronics in Burnaby just retired a couple weeks back. He would have been about 80 and decided he worked enough. I don't know whether the shop is going to stay open and be managed by somebody else or whether the shop is shut down but it certainly was one of the last repair joints around that was still in operation and they may still very well be in operation because he had a bunch of people working for him so he could have just sold the business. But that's the way it goes I watched it video by Shango a few years ago where he went through a shop that was closing down on their last day. Brought back memories of when I worked full time in the shop. Certainly the end of an era that's for sure
@@12voltvids Dave, at least you are making a good effort to show and demonstrate your skills in this channel for people that hopefully someone pick up the skills and keep it for the future generation. Just love your middle talk in the videos when you tell stories about past weird things. Getting discrete components here in Norway is getting much harder. I did a repair of a medical centrifuge on my hospital the other day (I work as a biomedical tech engineer) and needed a zener diode. I ended up scrapping some old centrifuge to harvest the diode. Saved the hospital for 1500 US bucks for not replacing the whole driver board. Strong advice recommendations, do hoarding if you have the space! In the UK, Maplin is gone, where one could pick up parts, components and electronics kit, it went bankrupt. In the US and Canada guess its the same? I do miss the Heathkit electronics kit, the GC-1005 clock with those panaplex gas discharge digits that were impossible to get hold of if they broke down.
@@thomasraden yeah parts are getting harder to find that's for sure. that's where a lot of people give up is when they run into that brick wall of where do you get parts. Used to be I could just run down to the local parts store and pick them up but not anymore. there are still a few shops that carry the common parts like capacitors and diodes and resistors and zener diodes. transistors are getting harder to get for a vintage equipment just because they haven't made those type of transistors in a long time. Integrated circuits even harder to find although there are still some around but they are getting more scarce and as people hoard them the price goes up. I have an old aa5 radio that needs a 50C5 tube. Now the last time I bought one of those tubes I paid about five bucks for it. Now I see them going for upwards of 45 to $50. That's for a used tube incidentally not a new one. So at that point do I want to spend $50 to fix an old AM radio probably not it's just a display piece I do have a good 50 C5 in another radio so if I want to demonstrate this when I guess I'll just unplug the good one and plug it in the set so that I can turn it on and listen to it.
Hey Dave you worked on one of these in May of 2022 and got it working nicely! Must have been in better shape then this one! Oh well still a crap turntable!
The "Supercompo" era with the A60 ? .... LOL ..... what a shame. Cardboard base. Still sounded "decent" ... but the contruction quality is agravating LOL
Nice Picquic Multique you have there! I have the same one, but in red. I have a few different Picquic screwdrivers, and I like them. Made in Canada eh! They are impossible to get in the EU, the importer has not had any in stock for a long time.
Hi! I was about to buy a "new" fr-d35 when I found this video. I say "new" because itis in the original box since it was buit! Nowadays I have a Sony PS-T20BS and I was thinking to sell it to buy the sansui one. Do you think the change is worthy it?
I'm have the same problem with a FR-Q5. What a piece of junk! The Sansui name used to mean quality years ago. Anyway had mine apart twice and still no help. Cleaned the rubber. Roughed up the rubber. No help. Might try adding a shim somewhere to take up some space and creating more pressure on the rubber clutch. If not, Ill just use it as a full manual TT. Just using it to test equipment. What a shame that so much of the stereo equipment brands we had back in the day that were great and repairable switched to making nothing but junk!
Too complicated a design. I have two Sansui SR-525s and an SR-535. All three are excellent. The SR-525s are all manual; the SR-535 is automatic, but mechanical. One of the SR-525s came with a Sansui-branded SV-27 cartridge that sounds great.
I use a Technics SLM1. Fantastic table and with the carbon fiber tone arm and p mount cartridge perfect alignment is guaranteed. That's why the TP4 was devoloped and standardized. Perfect 👌 stylus alignment.
I've encountered other tables from Phillips and Denon that had too many "high tech" design elements to be reliable. 80's tables are often the fussiest. New stuff (other than plastic toys) is back to a more simple philosophy.
I think what I'm going to do on this one because as we all know this is going to break down again there's no question that this Auto mechanism is going to fail a game because they always do the auto mechanism on this table has been one of the worst I've seen those rubber parts and plastic parts it's just a nightmare but as you know you can't use that turntable it will not start turning until you push the button and then it has to complete the auto cycle so you can't even operate it as a manual table I think what I might do on this one is dig out the schematic figure out how to wire it so that the motor will run as soon as it's turned on and then the automatic circuit can just be forgotten about you'll be able to turn on the power the table will start spinning and just pick the arm up and drop it on the record and it becomes a manual turntable and then it will be reliable. This one's mine and I wouldn't sell it in the state that it's in just because I know that sure shit it's going to come back and it's not going to work proper so for me to sell it I'm Miles ahead to disable the auto and sell it as a manual turntable.
Yup. Though, these days, if you're spinning vinyl, it's because you want to listen to vinyl... not because that's just where your music is. The user base is much more intentional than the average consumer of the time when this table was made. The 80s were an interesting blend of mechanical and electronic engineering. If this had been a completely computer-controlled mechanism of very simple mechanical components, it would be MUCH easier to work on, and require a lot less maintenance. (Of course, when it stops working, you're often just out of luck -- unless you want to design your own controller.) Meanwhile, these engineers were still trying to do things with sensors, friction, cams, gravity, a hope, and a prayer.
Old record changer did it mechanically in the past and worked like a charm every single time and they were under daily use. Well you didnt have the arm lift/down control. This was manual. Sansui deck were not impressive, I would take the D350M or 550M but nothing really crazy and any full logic 2 motor JVC from this era can do better. Sansui has done a great job on the amp/receivers. This is out of discussion. But the gold is only in the AU9500, the eight, seven .... Those (I was told) are the gold standard of the brand.
@@12voltvids There is a certain undeniable logic to your position, lol. I was, of course, referring to a 'personal use' standpoint. I disabled the automatic features of an Audio Technica LP60 because certain records would cause the mechanism to trip the auto-return too soon.
@@12voltvids I just got the impression about the auto ones being problematic. I also found out that Spectroniq portable DVD players are trouble prone as well-I’ve owned one-Spectroniq was a crappy brand-they used to make Protron-but when they went to Spectroniq-they looked the same on the outside-but they cheapened the quality of the internal parts-screen wiring and other problems. I have another Spectroniq unit-and I am very careful with it-hardly ever get it out and mess with it-afraid it will develop a flickering screen like my original one (now defunct) did.
Agreed - Sansui is a brand that was very much respected in the '70s, but it all went horribly wrong in the '80s.
Even the stuff from the 70s wasn't that great. I have a 9090. That's from the 70s.
@@12voltvids I love seeing you work on your favorite turntable
@@catsbyondrepair perhaps time to show how to make this a full manual table for times that the mech is shot completely.
@@Runco990 my 9090is has not had a lot of problems. I got it for free back in the mid-80s because the owner didn't want to spend any money to fix it so I fixed it up and I've had it ever since I don't use it that much except for years without being used that's why all the dye lights still work and it's got a fair bit of power. I just don't think it sounds all that great. Distortional wise they're not that good none of the sensory stuff was that good distortion wise. I was using a Macintosh 1600 for years which is a tube amp and I've now been using a yaquin MC10T which has been a great little amplifier only 50 watts per channel but it sounds fantastic. Now I've got this crest vs 900 and holy crap that's the best sounding amplifier I've ever heard. I hear things that I never heard before like instruments that were just lost in the mud all of a sudden pop. That nylon strong acoustic guitar for example can be differentiated from the steel strung acoustic. Vocals holy crap are they ever clear. people can keep their vintage tech and maybe they like it because of the aesthetics because it looks neat with the all lit up dial are the meters or whatever my Crest amp is nothing to look at got a couple blinking lights on the front that's about it it sits on the shelf or it doesn't have to be looked at. But I'm not one for the vintage stuff myself but for those who want to overpay for this crap knocked himself out I wouldn't give you anything for it. I keep getting people asking me if I will sell them my 9090. Perhaps someday I will because the prices are stupid that people have offered me for it. You know if I needed the money I would have sold it a long time ago but I'm in a position where I don't need the money so I can just sit on it if it keeps going up in value maybe someday I will sell it but right now I'm in no hurry to move it I know it's not going to go down and value because stupid people will spend stupid amounts of money on stupid old equipment how's that answer your question
I have a mint late 60s 4000 and use it daily. It looks snd sounds great and I have had numerous 70s amps in the past 10 years. Yamaha ca1010 is the other one I hung onto for my main system, along with a sx-450 for the dining room.
Thanks buddy ; great piece of work ; good luck !
I much prefer a totally manual turntable for my purposes. I have an old Sears turntable that I disabled the auto return and stop on because it would sometimes do it slightly before the end of the music on some records. All it took was putting a piece of tape in the right place. I was 14 or 15 at the time and now I'm 53 and that turntable still has that tape to disable that return mechanism and it still works great and it had counterweight and anti skate adjustments so you can put whatever cartridge you want on it.
WoW, im 62, i remember fix those a lot of time ago, haven't seen one of these since then... Remember the time when i was young
never had a turntable from them, but i did have a Sansui cassete deck and it was great. it came reccomended to me from the salesman and i never had a problem with it in over a decade of use. guess either i lucked out or the reliability changed over time or depended on what type of equipment it was. the one i had was a 90's vintage
I do have such a ZannTschui as well, with the same issue. It's the swanky top of the line model, but got the same strange mechanics. So even one bought a top line model with some improvenents, they used basically the same problematic parts. My first guess is a worn out motor, elkos, rubber parts and sticky grease. Looks like ist's all of it. Thank You for sharing your experience. 🖖
Hello, please, I need your help. I have a FR D3 that doesn't have enough kickback in anti skating. How can I fix? Thanks in advance, I'll be grateful
You did great!
"sansewage" LOL!
Well you know what a sewer carries right! 😋🤣
Dave would it work if you replaced the rubber washer with a rubber washer from the hardware store? I mean if you found the right size washer?
I have a FR-D4 ! The tonearm mechanism is really bad. The clutch spring is loose, the rubbers are solid.
I cannot and it will not be reliable to try to fix it. SO is there any way to make it MANUAL , without the computer thing ? I have been told about the white wire, to ground the white wire.
Can you please suggest ?
Thank you so much
I own a Sansui full system from the 80s..the amp is a909, tuner t-909, turntable p-l50,deck d99-d..been reliable for more than 30 years in fact better than other friends systems that ceased..
the turntable and deck just gave problems and was looking for solutions but came across not so nice rebrand...well not in my case and not defending the brand but for me an over 30 year electronic that's very good...and what brand that not problematic over years..if it's man made surely it will give up someday...
Thanks for the reviews..m learning on this channel
IMO, "all mechanical" mechanisms are the best. Less to go wrong.
Perhaps i will mid this to full manual. That might make a good video because when the auto fucks up it won't even spin.
San'sewage nice. I enjoyed your security series & would like to see you make a camera list. Cameras that are wireless & wired ones. And ones were you dont have to suscribe to a service. Finally your thoughts on the cloud for storage vs. a recorder.
Hugh Mc. Chicago metro
That’s some good sticky!
Some manufacturers try to be too clever or too stupid with there designs.
Basic is often more reliable.
i've missed some of your videos dave, i've had the covid virus and it screwed me up for a bit.
And Screwed me up mentally.
What did you say, i was screwed up anyway lol :-D
So would you say that Sansui turntables and Fisher VCRs have unreliability in common?
I always appreciate when you sincerely explain why you hate certain material, I share your opinion about these...
Most of these Sans Suie turntable were effectively poorly designed and manufactured, and not only with mechanical problems...I've also encountered bad electronic boards with speed regulation problems, bad caps, bad solders, brown goo of the death and so on. You could also find this kind of clutch elsewhere, as always a nightmare to maintain as it's difficult to find the exact materials or original unobtainable parts to replace rubber washers and so on. I've also tried some self adhesive felt pads cut to dimensions, and plumbing supply for small parts, but it's rarely an immediate success, as you sometimes also have to add (or remove) washers or change coils to adjust pressure. Rubber renew is also unavailable in Europe! Many of these full auto speed select engines also require a special rubber platter matte with holes and eventual alignment notches to operate, and guess what, most of these tend to decompose into an oily schmoo with time. Of course if you only play 33 1/3 rpm large discs, no problem....
With the fragility and difficult to adjust these turntables, (when the platter drops everytime you return the engine to check under the cover!), you easily get why technicians prefer simplicity with manual or semi automatic turntables...
I still largely prefer a classic manual only Thorens, Lynn or Microseiki to a full auto high end Denon or Sony. Some classic Technics or Pioneer are also interesting, and can be good compromises for those in need of ease of use. I could also recommend some high end Denon, Yamaha or Kenwood, but these are still for the highest budget and can still need attention with aging components.
However, saving these old machines also demonstrates the relative quality compared to what is actually massively sold, generally based on the same low cost even poorest plastic mechanism with an awfully sounding cartridge!
I've got one of these - FRD-55 which is the same tonearm drive with additional track sensors in front of the cartridge. Very finicky and is also missing the thin nylon clutch from the clutch assembly. Horrific thing to work on, I think you were very patient to even try.
Sansewage!
Yeah my patience would’ve ran out about 5 minutes in.
"Everything to gain" LoL!
Regarding measuring caps, or even measuring caps in circuit, you do use an ESR meter that looks like its custom built or a very old one. There are some models on the net, "ESR70 - Atlas ESR Gold - Equivalent Series Resistance Meter". What are your experiences here?
The esr / low ohms meter is one I built from a kit at least 30 years a go. It was a Dick Smith kit, but there have been others as well. Don't spend big bucks on a commercial meter, buy a kit and build your own. You will get satisfaction using it.
@@12voltvids Unfortunately soldering skills will be extinct in a few years from now, as well as general knowledge that we had earlier. I refer to the movie Idiocracy.
@@thomasraden that's right all the old techs are dropping light flies. The guy that I worked for for 20 years who was at tech himself just passed away last week. We're all getting older and all of us with the big brains won't be around to fix this stuff. The younger generation doesn't seem too interested in picking up the trade I don't blame them though I wouldn't do it either because there's no money in it. The owner of IT electronics in Burnaby just retired a couple weeks back. He would have been about 80 and decided he worked enough. I don't know whether the shop is going to stay open and be managed by somebody else or whether the shop is shut down but it certainly was one of the last repair joints around that was still in operation and they may still very well be in operation because he had a bunch of people working for him so he could have just sold the business. But that's the way it goes I watched it video by Shango a few years ago where he went through a shop that was closing down on their last day. Brought back memories of when I worked full time in the shop. Certainly the end of an era that's for sure
@@12voltvids Dave, at least you are making a good effort to show and demonstrate your skills in this channel for people that hopefully someone pick up the skills and keep it for the future generation. Just love your middle talk in the videos when you tell stories about past weird things. Getting discrete components here in Norway is getting much harder. I did a repair of a medical centrifuge on my hospital the other day (I work as a biomedical tech engineer) and needed a zener diode. I ended up scrapping some old centrifuge to harvest the diode. Saved the hospital for 1500 US bucks for not replacing the whole driver board. Strong advice recommendations, do hoarding if you have the space! In the UK, Maplin is gone, where one could pick up parts, components and electronics kit, it went bankrupt. In the US and Canada guess its the same? I do miss the Heathkit electronics kit, the GC-1005 clock with those panaplex gas discharge digits that were impossible to get hold of if they broke down.
@@thomasraden yeah parts are getting harder to find that's for sure. that's where a lot of people give up is when they run into that brick wall of where do you get parts. Used to be I could just run down to the local parts store and pick them up but not anymore. there are still a few shops that carry the common parts like capacitors and diodes and resistors and zener diodes. transistors are getting harder to get for a vintage equipment just because they haven't made those type of transistors in a long time. Integrated circuits even harder to find although there are still some around but they are getting more scarce and as people hoard them the price goes up. I have an old aa5 radio that needs a 50C5 tube. Now the last time I bought one of those tubes I paid about five bucks for it. Now I see them going for upwards of 45 to $50. That's for a used tube incidentally not a new one. So at that point do I want to spend $50 to fix an old AM radio probably not it's just a display piece I do have a good 50 C5 in another radio so if I want to demonstrate this when I guess I'll just unplug the good one and plug it in the set so that I can turn it on and listen to it.
Well done for the repair, fingers crossed that it will last.
It might be converted to full manual.
Hey Dave you worked on one of these in May of 2022 and got it working nicely! Must have been in better shape then this one! Oh well still a crap turntable!
Is this from the Poly Peck era or before?
I had a Poly Peck Sansui integrated and it was 60% plastic and 40% bullpucky.
The "Supercompo" era with the A60 ? .... LOL ..... what a shame. Cardboard base. Still sounded "decent" ... but the contruction quality is agravating LOL
Nice Picquic Multique you have there! I have the same one, but in red. I have a few different Picquic screwdrivers, and I like them. Made in Canada eh!
They are impossible to get in the EU, the importer has not had any in stock for a long time.
Made in Vancouver eh.
@@12voltvids Sadly I've read that the bits on the newer models are now made in Taiwan.
@@PuchMaxi nothing wrong with tiawan
old dual had the automatic licked arm drop down as nice as you like stick with mechanical automatic never fail
And that's why I stick with manual turntables 🧐
Hi!
I was about to buy a "new" fr-d35 when I found this video. I say "new" because itis in the original box since it was buit! Nowadays I have a Sony PS-T20BS and I was thinking to sell it to buy the sansui one.
Do you think the change is worthy it?
If it's been sitting that long it probably won't work.
Thank you,@@12voltvids 😁
I wonder if Cork sheet would be better for that clutch....
Philips used cork con brakes and pads in one of their R2R I worked ....
I'm have the same problem with a FR-Q5. What a piece of junk! The Sansui name used to mean quality years ago. Anyway had mine apart twice and still no help. Cleaned the rubber. Roughed up the rubber. No help. Might try adding a shim somewhere to take up some space and creating more pressure on the rubber clutch. If not, Ill just use it as a full manual TT. Just using it to test equipment. What a shame that so much of the stereo equipment brands we had back in the day that were great and repairable switched to making nothing but junk!
Sansewage is what they were referred to at the shop i worked at. Sewage as in shit.
can it be used as manual?
auto is for CHANGERS
No. Not unless modded and that may be a future video as the auto may act up again. These sansewage tables are a piece of sh1t.
Dual 1229 a decent turn table
Too complicated a design. I have two Sansui SR-525s and an SR-535. All three are excellent. The SR-525s are all manual; the SR-535 is automatic, but mechanical. One of the SR-525s came with a Sansui-branded SV-27 cartridge that sounds great.
I love my 535, the spindle gear cracked but I cemented it and it's fine now, someone on eBay is selling the gear if it happens to yours.
@@ColtLuger Mine still works well. And the specs for both the 525 and the 535 beat a lot of modern high-end tables--e.g., the McIntosh MT5.
Turn table I like my TECHNICS SL1200 MK5 manual
I use a Technics SLM1. Fantastic table and with the carbon fiber tone arm and p mount cartridge perfect alignment is guaranteed. That's why the TP4 was devoloped and standardized. Perfect 👌 stylus alignment.
All the one Ive seen ffor sale have been chopped to MANUAL only. Finding one with the Auto working is almost impossible.
That's because the auto system was a piece of crap as they rolled off the assembly line.
I don’t have an old turntable but I prefer my manual Audio-Technica AT-LPW30TK
I've encountered other tables from Phillips and Denon that had too many "high tech" design elements to be reliable. 80's tables are often the fussiest. New stuff (other than plastic toys) is back to a more simple philosophy.
I think what I'm going to do on this one because as we all know this is going to break down again there's no question that this Auto mechanism is going to fail a game because they always do the auto mechanism on this table has been one of the worst I've seen those rubber parts and plastic parts it's just a nightmare but as you know you can't use that turntable it will not start turning until you push the button and then it has to complete the auto cycle so you can't even operate it as a manual table I think what I might do on this one is dig out the schematic figure out how to wire it so that the motor will run as soon as it's turned on and then the automatic circuit can just be forgotten about you'll be able to turn on the power the table will start spinning and just pick the arm up and drop it on the record and it becomes a manual turntable and then it will be reliable. This one's mine and I wouldn't sell it in the state that it's in just because I know that sure shit it's going to come back and it's not going to work proper so for me to sell it I'm Miles ahead to disable the auto and sell it as a manual turntable.
Yup. Though, these days, if you're spinning vinyl, it's because you want to listen to vinyl... not because that's just where your music is. The user base is much more intentional than the average consumer of the time when this table was made.
The 80s were an interesting blend of mechanical and electronic engineering. If this had been a completely computer-controlled mechanism of very simple mechanical components, it would be MUCH easier to work on, and require a lot less maintenance. (Of course, when it stops working, you're often just out of luck -- unless you want to design your own controller.) Meanwhile, these engineers were still trying to do things with sensors, friction, cams, gravity, a hope, and a prayer.
Old record changer did it mechanically in the past and worked like a charm every single time and they were under daily use. Well you didnt have the arm lift/down control. This was manual. Sansui deck were not impressive, I would take the D350M or 550M but nothing really crazy and any full logic 2 motor JVC from this era can do better. Sansui has done a great job on the amp/receivers. This is out of discussion. But the gold is only in the AU9500, the eight, seven .... Those (I was told) are the gold standard of the brand.
Yes save another one I think the Sansul in 70
If not for the 80s futuristic auto mech it was a pretty good pile of shit.
I would just strip out the automatic features and use it as a full manual turntable. I don't need all that mickey mouse crap anyway.
If i sell worth more to buyer as automatic. You know how people love to over pay for this crap.
@@12voltvids There is a certain undeniable logic to your position, lol.
I was, of course, referring to a 'personal use' standpoint. I disabled the automatic features of an Audio Technica LP60 because certain records would cause the mechanism to trip the auto-return too soon.
@@xaenon this is fully adjustable on this one and it plays the one record that is over recorded.
I wouldn’t want to buy a record player like this!
Now what if it was full manual?
@@12voltvids I just got the impression about the auto ones being problematic. I also found out that Spectroniq portable DVD players are trouble prone as well-I’ve owned one-Spectroniq was a crappy brand-they used to make Protron-but when they went to Spectroniq-they looked the same on the outside-but they cheapened the quality of the internal parts-screen wiring and other problems. I have another Spectroniq unit-and I am very careful with it-hardly ever get it out and mess with it-afraid it will develop a flickering screen like my original one (now defunct) did.
@@whirlpool1978 yes problematic. They weren't very good when new and time has not been kind.
Tech friend of mine called them SanSewage as well. Ahhhhh....refreshing how universal the hate is for these that brings us all together.
Jesus clip? 🤣 'Cos that's what you shout when the thing shoots across the room never to be seen again!
Those are F clips. Where the f did it go.
Sansewage 😂