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Far Too Early Guess at the 2024-25 NHL Standings
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- I mean, it's not even July 15th yet, so what is this guy doing?
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When he looked into the abyss and said, "I can't make an argument for Vancouver," it had me dead, lmaoo😂
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd I'm screenshoting your comment to take a look at it in the future.
I couldn’t stop laughing😂😂😂
Never, ever, risk drawing the ire of the Hockey Gods by the act of tempting providence. You're guaranteed then to have significantly less goals and a great many more posts and crossbars during the season.
@@Corey-zn8kd That is some bold predicting... on the one hand you put yourself out there in a way that can make you look very stupid... on the other hand if you get even some of this correct, you become a legend...
Proof that the East and West are equally strong: both had a team in the Stanley Cup Finals!
🤪
Good point 😅 On a serious note, though, this year it did go to game seven.
omg thats craaaazzyyy :0
Are you old enough to remember when that wasn't the case? 1979-1980, the Islanders beat the Flyers for the first of their four consecutive Stanley Cups in a row. I think I would pay, and pay big, to see a Bruins vs Rangers Stanley Cup Final.
They always do.
Sometimes, I'm so tired from sleeping, I just have to sleep more.
sometimes, I'm so tired from sleeping that I can't fall asleep at all
Sometimes I attempt to reply to comments in a manner that reflects the non sequitur nature of the OP, but it turns out overly verbose and exceeds any measure of brevity condusive to wit, and I end up just typing whatever words come out. Then I get sad and take a nap.
Makes sense
Me today
Make sure you are getting your vitamins and minerals your body is probably all outta whack
"I could, but you guys love me, and you know it."
He's not wrong. ❤
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
A bit too full of himself today.
@@InsignificantNick i read this comment as he said it in the video lmao
No need to apologize to us here in columbus. We are just happy that someone acknowledged we exist.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd you right except Florida wins game 5
@@BlasterzHD even taking the series layout at face, Paul Maurice never loses a game 7, so he's got that wrong already.
I love how these comments go back to not acknowledging Colombus 😂😢
i hope to see some of Buffalo Ottawa Utah and Detroit break the playoff droughts this year.
Utah deserves an end to their long wait.😂
I wonder who Utah will sign? Who are the players that are still impactful that are available?
As a Bruins fan Ive been expecting Buffalo or Detroit to make the jomp into the playoffs for the last few years but it never seems to happen and honestly I dont know why. I always like what I see when we play them. Ottowa on the other hand...
@@markroberts9577 Virtually, nobody. But there are trades, I guess.
Buffalo is funny though it’s almost as funny as the leafs
Flyers missed the playoffs by 1 single point last season, then added Michkov.
Most expect a step back this season, but dead last in the East would be crazy.
They're such a wildcard you know? I think expectations would be the worst thing for them. They'll thrive under the desire to prove everyone wrong, just like they did last season.
They also could very well finish last, it's not impossible, but I agree a last-place finish is probably just as unlikely as it is for them to qualify for postseason play
And hey, if they DO finish last, 2025 is the draft class they have the most stake/picks in
@@HatTrkPatrk I just find it absurd to project any team other than Columbus to finish last in the East. They were the worst team in the conference by a mile last year…
@TheHockeyGuy I almost always agree with your takes, however I can’t get onboard with the Flyers finishing last in the East. They missed the wildcard by one point last season in a stacked Eastern Conference, and only did so by collapsing down the stretch losing 8 out of their last 10. They traded Sean Walker for a 1st at the deadline for their rebuild and replaced him with the corpse of Ryan Johansen, so their young core of defenseman was overtaxed and hurt. They also lost Errson and had to throw in the rookie Fedotov in some big games down the stretch. They added Michkov this offseason, so at least they are getting an influx of top end scoring talent to help push them over the hump. All this to say I think they’ll be better than last in the East.
I just finished the contract video so the upload was just in time
There better be another one ready in 15 mins
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
THG, please sign a personal affidavit and have it notarized that NJ will not win the cup 😅 ty. Sincerely, all Devils fans.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
I second this. Please THG!
@@Corey-zn8kd yeah no
@@Corey-zn8kd not a rags fan but theyre still a better team than NJ. its reported zegras might be heading there too in a trade. Zegras wants to go there. the rags have been to the ECF twice in 3 years.....theyre closer than NJ is. i say rags are in ECF again.....maybe finals.
The Bruins bring in one of the top two way centers in the league in Lindholm, and get Poitras back from injury to solve their center problem. They also bring in a top defenseman in Zadorov, as well as Lohrei now up for the whole year. They've improved on both offense and defense. They give up Ullmark in goal, but Swayman had moved past him as the number one goalie anyways, resulting in little change in goal. Last year's rookies, Beecher and Brazeau, and this year's rookies Merkulov and Lysell have breakout potential. They've improved and you have them moving down? They should once again challenge for 1st, and will be better set up for the playoffs with increased speed and size, and they won't have $5M in salary sitting on the bench in Ullmark.
@@J36Ops bruins are going to be good
Love that Admirals jersey.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
I agree - that is awesome!
If you watched the Panthers vs Wings games last year, you'd know that's an EXTREMELY enticing matchup. Alternatively, if things actually DO work for once for Ottawa, Tkachuk bowl would also be insane. (Never forget the "Everyone on the ice gets a 10 minute misconduct")
Trust the process, my fellow Habs. Trust the process.
For how long though it’s getting a little old and stale sucking every year now gotta start improving
@@Mitch-ui8ps we were in the finals only 3 years ago lol have some patience
@@Mitch-ui8ps We just started, no?
@@arseface2k934 Right lol. Wait you didn't rebuild in 2 years?!! What?!! lmao.
@@Mitch-ui8psI agree, a playoff push would be nice, but the new D-core needs to be properly established in the NHL first before the team has any sort of competitiveness
I miss having it just be the top 8 in each conference with 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, and 4 vs 5 with teams being re-seeded after the first round.
For Colorado in first, are you assuming Landeskog and Nichushkin are available? I think they'd be a longshot for first without them!
W\o Nichuskin and Landeskog plus their goaltending issue, they wouldn't have beaten Boston in a PO series. This guys analysis is weak.
I remember last year when everyone said the Flyers were going to be dead last as well.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
Nowhere on planet earth does anyone think the devils have the stones let alone the depth to beat the panthers esp in 7 games. What center do the devils have can even hold a candle to barkov? And dont you dare say hughes or hischier@@Corey-zn8kd
This is a win-win. They'll either thrive as the underdogs (just like last year) or they'll finish last and have one of the best picks possible for the 2025 draft, the one they have the most picks in and the one that will have the most impact on whether they become contenders
@@Corey-zn8kd That's hilarious, the Devils don't stand a chance against half the East, let alone the Panthers 🤡🤡🤡
Flyers need to tank for future success, only thing they need to make sure is that Michkov still improves in a losing environment.
In the east, Tampa is only a 20 game injury to Hedman away from struggling to make the playoffs. They just don't have another guy on the backend who can drive play
Considering they have a young blue line besides two vets does make sense, but Hedman can miss games and they still have Mcdonagh who's done that before.
@@saabviggen00 nah, they have other dmen now. Losing Hedman would hurt but he’s typically really healthy and the lightning should and probably will give up significantly less goals this year.
Sabres gotta make it this year man. It's getting ridiculous
Really hoping we have a chance to leapfrog the Isles, Red Wings, and Caps on this list
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd Paul Maurice never loses a Game 7, you failed to account for that. So....might wanna relook into your crystal ball? Was there a small crack in it?
@@Corey-zn8kdI’ll remember to reply to this when this doesn’t happen
Can we do a series called “where are Shannon’s cats?”, you can point them out during the segment and give fun tidbits about them 😂
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
Damn, my Sharks did not move LMAO
Sens wings games will be great this year. I think/hope they end the year battling for the last spot.
A wings vs sens playoff series in the future will be incredible
My hot take is the Hawks finish ahead of St Louis and have 20 more points than they did last season. Not enough for a wild card spot but a noticeable improvement than last year
Your time will come, but I doubt it will be this year.
Caps have improved a lot, and I think Ovie actually has a better year - they squeak in with just a -20 goal differential this time ;-)
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@richgrohol2850 Not sure how they will adjust for the cap. Without Backstrom they are still $5M over
@@ItsmeCote LTIR
Oh my god, Shannon using a cloth and not his finger. He’s moving up in the world!!
Top tier thumbnail Buffalo vs. Philly in the ECF this year
If Detroit makes the playoffs with that dcore Larkin gets the Hart trophy for sure. Would be great to see some new teams make the playoffs out of the East finally
NJ in, one of OTT/DET in, Caps and Isles out is my prediction
Detroit would’ve made the playoffs this season if Larkin didn’t miss like 3-4 weeks to injury
@@Xerxsion every team in the race has an excuse so you could make a similar argument for 5 or 6 teams. Plus the Red Wings blue line got worse this offseason
@@Xerxsion Thats a weak excuse, every team has a top guy out for a month. Get a grip.
@@eliaminator2313 I’m pretty sure Detroit lost almost If not literally every game during the month that Larkin was injured so that excuse is fine lol
I cannot imagine Oilers anywhere but the top. Sorry Shannon, they're just too deep.
Red wings being at 9th still burns me up so bad.
After watching pre-season rankings for a few years now, I found that the main failing is being overly attached to the previous season's standings. I think some teams in the East are going to fall a lot more. Maybe a suggestion, split each conference into three tiers (5 teams in top tier, 6 teams fighting for playoffs, 5 teams tanking) and predict if there will be any movement between these three tiers.
Perfect description of a cat right there 🤣
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
Islander vs kings…..one of them has to win.. damn . Also 9th is probably right for us sadly, we really did get worse this offseason on paper. Masterclass Rob…..
Kings vs Islanders in the finals and we finish beating NY/NJ teams just like we did in ‘12 and ‘14 so we become the anti-NY/NJ team
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
You’re too high on Tampa! Pretty sure they miss the playoffs!!
Put the CBJ at the bottom and work your way up.
CBJ at the bottom seems like a complete picture to me.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
My standings purely looking at the line ups as things stand right now:
East: Metro: 1) NYR 2) Carolina 3) Pittsburgh 4) NYI 5) NJD 6) Washington 7) Philadelphia 8) Columbus (only the top 3 will make the playoffs, but NYR will take 1st in the conference again); Atlantic: 1) Florida 2) Toronto 3) Boston 4) Detroit 5) Tampa Bay 6) Ottawa 7) Montreal 8) Buffalo (the top 5 will make the playoffs with Tampa getting NYR in the first round and Detroit getting Florida).
West: Pacific: 1) Edmonton 2) Vegas 3) Vancouver 4) Los Angeles 5) Seattle 6) San Jose 7) Anaheim 8) Calgary (top 4 make the playoffs and Edmonton will take the President's trophy, but LA will end up being the lower seed wild card); Central: 1) Nashville 2) Dallas 3) Winnipeg 4) Colorado 5) St. Louis 6) Chicago 7) Minnesota 8) Utah (top 4 make the playoffs and Colorado gets the higher seed wild card).
Playoffs: First Round: NYR over Tampa Bay; Carolina over Pittsburgh; Detroit over Florida (calling an upset); Toronto over Boston; Edmonton over LA; Vancouver over Vegas; Nashville over Colorado; Winnipeg over Dallas.
Division Finals: Carolina over NYR; Detroit over Toronto (calling a Cinderella run); Edmonton over Vancouver; Nashville over Winnipeg.
Conference Finals: Carolina over Detroit; Edmonton over Nashville.
Stanley Cup Finals: Edmonton over Carolina.
Ottawa has new ownership in place to start the season, a new GM, a new coach, and Staios has cleaned up several messes leftover from Dorion. Plus, he also acquired Ullmark. All advance stats show that if Ottawa had over .900 save percentage last year, they would have made the playoffs. I know, I know, there were issues with the whole team last year (Pinto suspended 41 games for instance), but I really think if they make another move or two to get veteran D-Man and/or forward, I believe that they bill finish 10 ten or better in the East. But that's just my opinion. Can't wait for the season to start!! Love your content Shannon, keep up the great work. How on earth do you put the Capitals in 9th though?! Cheers
@@DirtyMoneyHipHop
They have also signed Pinto, whom they missed for half of last season and improved defense.
I’m excited to see my Canadiens continue to grow and slowly getting more wins the NHL is just better when we are a good team
New Jersey over Carolina
Yeah I think the Canes will regress a lot.
I think Tampa will be fighting it out for a playoff spot at best. Leafs will be good in the regular season with a boost from their new coach, Marner career year (contract year), better D and very good young forwards.
Can't see Tampa being above the leafs this year
@@rustyrazor2851 didn’t finish far below them despite 2 months without Vasi and only 3 capable dmen throughout most of the year. Both teams improved imo but if they both stay healthy, lightning should finish a little above them
I can.
Yeah Tampa is missing the playoffs this year
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@jordannewman177 why would they? They got rid of their huge defensive liability Stamkos and replaced him with a player that still can score.
Philly could end up higher depending on how good Mitchkov is
Philly won't be that good lol. They're starting a rebuild, they don't have stable goaltending, their defense is really bad, and their offense is come and go lmao.
Philly have 0 great defencemen
They overachieved last year
Michkov could certainly make a difference if he is as good as Bedard.
@@jeffreym.8957 So he won't make a difference then, he's nowhere near as good as Bedard lmao
For me your pretty close woth the esst and west...tho id have it oiler then dallas then Colorado...it will always come down to injuroes tho
that Admirals jersey is 🔥🔥🔥 love it.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
I was really hoping you'd do a end-of-video shuffle and put Buffalo and San José as #1 just for old time sake
I'm going to anger a lot of Habs fans here. They brag about having their 3 guys locked up for under a certain cap hit, but they rest of us realize those are all 2nd line guys. They are still missing 3 top line guys that can get them into the playoffs.
If the Sabres can get their scoring from two years ago back, which i fully believe they will by buying out the defensive blackhole that is Skinner that Tuch and Thompson had to cover for him will allow them to be offensive more, especially with Peterka up there with them, in combination with way better team D from their bottom 6 and Dahlin taking the next step into the Norris convo and UPL going off, like he did since January, the whole year and Sabres could be well above the playoff line IMO
It’s literally going to depend on how your goalies perform. All the pieces are there.
I like the Sabres chances more then the Red Wings.
@jacoblaurain8911 I fully believe that UPL has found that next step, I think keeping Levi up here, unless he struggles early on in his chances in the net, and sending Reimer down is the best tandem IMO but I wouldn't be mad if Levi goes down, as it would be easier even though I doubt any team is taking Reimer on waivers for a million one way lol, and Reimer stays up to back up UPL but Reimer better be ready himself. Should be better than some think, definite recency bias here
@AmosDohms Red Wings do this every year and it doesn't help lol. You could argue that they are crawling up the standing little by little but it's even smaller margin than Buffalo IMO
@@SabresGuy87 The wings strategy this off season is a bit different than the last 2 that you’re referring to. The new additions so far that will play are Talbot, Tarasenko, Motte, and Gustafsson. They lost Sprong, Ghost, Walman, Fabbri, Perron, and Czarnik. They’re bringing up Edvinsson, Johansson, and Berggren to fill new roles, finally. They didn’t have any rookie play a significant role last year.
They arguably are worse on paper than last year. They lost a lot of talent. They’re hoping Berggren and Edvinsson can play top 9 and top 4 roles, which is the first time they have high rookie expectations since Raymond/Mo 3 years ago!
The only one I definitely disagree with is Vegas. They lost 2 top 6 forwards one of which is a consistent 40 goal scorer and Conn Smythe winner AND didn't replace him. I mean I guess you got Hertl? In my opinion though, Stephenson is definitely a better player with a better contract than Hertl. The Hertl trade was bad... on the bright side though Hanifin is great for them. I wouldn't see this roster as being one competing for a cup though or even being higher in the standings even when Stone gets hurt in February. I like Utahs odds being 6th more than I like Vegas being 6th. I just don't see it.
True, but they had major injuries last season. Hertl never really even played for them healthy. Plus, if Stone, Eichel and Theodore play full seasons it will make a big difference, I think.
@jeffreym.8957 bro you can go compare Hertls stats and Stephensons stats and Stephenson has better stats, and he's getting paid 2 AAV less than Hertl. You can say this and that about injuries but every team has injuries every year. Vegas might have had more than a lot of teams but they still lost in the first round with being 10 mil over the cap. I'm not trying to be rude man, I just really don't see the explanation for it. Before too long they're gunna be the new Pittsburg senior citizens.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd this is the stupidest comment I've ever seen.
Marchessault isn't a consistent 40 goal scorer. He's a consistent 25-30 goal scorer. Stephenson as a player falls off pretty noticeably when not playing with Stone. Stone is the play driver and Stephenson's speed complimented him.
Hertl was always replacing Stephenson and the hope is a player like Dorofeyev can get 15-20 goals. It's not perfect but it's definitely not crippling.
They also added Hanafin to their blue line giving them the ability to make a forward for defense trade.
This looks great. Pretty much where I have everyone.
Good work.
Colorado first is wild. Cap situation a complete mess, Nuke and Landeskog giant question marks. We will see!
I'd have them 5th. Van Dal EDM top 3 imo
Wouldn’t call it any more wild than putting them 5th. They still have MacKinnon Rantanen and Makar plus a legit 2C at the start of the year for the first time since kadri.
Start of the year yeah it’s gonna be interesting with the question marks, but they will be answered by the deadline.
I do agree with you though first is incredibly generous, but not 5th haha.
There's no way Dallas is top 3 in the West this year. Their blue line isn't improved in any way and they've lost Tanev, they've lost Pavelski, Robo was getting points but was extremely quiet throughout the playoffs, and Dallas is relying on an extremely young core peppered with rookies and sophomores, all while still having cap issues this season and the question of what happens with Benn's (their Captain) contract.
We'll see flashes of brilliance and a foreshadowing of things to come but they aren't going to have the finish, endurance, or solidarity that they've had the last several years. I have them in 4th in the West, with Nashville in 3rd, and out of the playoffs by the end of round 2.
This’ll be a make or break year for DeBoer, they can’t afford another disappointing conference finals exit, he’ll be on the chopping block if he fails again
lmao talk about bias Colorado as 5th????????????
cant see tb finishing ahead of boston or toronto with weaker center and dman depth.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd jersey wont make it past the 2nd. Ecf will be the rangers winning in 7 over boston.
and i do love watching you talk yourself in and out of stuff
if Detroit misses I can now blame Shannon
I agree with THG that the Rangers and Florida will be at the top in the East. However, I think he should have stuck with Edmonton and Dallas in the West.
I dont see colorado finishing at the top. As it stands today i would guess 104 points. They finish behind dallas and ahead of nashville. Now is that 2nd, 3rd, or 4th....id guess 4th
Yeah, crazy to put Colorado in the top spot. My picks for the West are: 1. Edmonton, 2. Dallas, 3. Colorado, 4. Nashville, 5. Vancouver, 6. Winnipeg, 7. LA, 8. Vegas
if you look at the stanley cups from the past 10 years, it's only 6-4 east vs west, and fewer east teams have actually taken it all, due to 2 separate repeats
As a Sharks fan, it's hard to imagine being dead last again, but its even harder to pick out teams the Sharks might actually leap frog. I think Calgary is the only one they have a shot at.
Devils made the moves they needed to make and no curse from THG; thank you. LGD!
Colorado is the biggest what if, because of Landeskog and Nichushkin.
Capitals could definitely at least hold steady at 8th. Their goalie tandem is very good (probably even underrated) and the defense is solid. If they can get more scoring from somewhere (perhaps PLD does a good job at passing to Ovi) and if they can stay healthy, I could see them being even a bit better than last year. Certainly not contender status or anything like that, but a playoff team.
Boston I think is going to fall. No scoring, no depth at forward, too much pressure on Swayman and a pretty good defense, but not game-breakingly good. I don't know if I see them falling out of the playoffs, but I could see it happen. Canes and Tampa are also going to fall down, again maybe not out of the playoffs, but closer to the line at least, so maybe the competition for playoff spots 5-8 in the East is going to be the thriller late in the season.
Playoff teams in the West could be the exact same teams, but if I had to bet on one team falling on their face, I would bet on Canucks.
Washington was lucky last year. It boggles the mind that they can have a goal differential of -37 and make the playoffs. They won't be so lucky this season. Also the addition of Dubois is a big red flag.
Shannon, as a Panther fan, Im perturbed you picked us to finish first. Im not overly superstitious, but I don’t want the President's Trophy. Im pulling for Calgary to make a run. I got a feeling Hubie is gonna have a bounce back year.
Even with that, I can't see Calgary being better than a wild card team at best next season. They will likely take a step back. But there's alot to be excited about, I want to see a full season of Miromanov, Pospisil and Lomberg on a line together, I can see Coronato and Zary making the team, Vladar/Wolf Tandem might surprise (or be a disaster), I'm not sure about Huberdeau having another 100+ point season, but if he can get back to his consistent, 70ish points a season, that would be good. Full season of Kuzmenko, maybe Parekh makes the team out of camp, lots to be excited about and games will be entertaining but we may nit win much lol
@@nathanbrisebois8756 I hope your offense opens up a little more. Hubie was great when he had open ice to work with. Besides the Panthers, whom I've been rooting for, since its inception, I'm pulling for Calgary. There are a lot of guys on that team I am a huge fan of. You're gonna love watching the Lomberghini.
The Flames were on pace for a 62 point season last year after they traded Hanifin. They have since traded their starting goaltender. They really need to finish in the bottom ten, otherwise they'll send their first round pick to Montreal and pick up Florida's first rounder, which could be #32
I'm a Panther fan but am surprised that you put them at #1. My thinking is that they have a target on their back and will lose some points because of it. I'm expecting a 98-102 point season (all things being equal with no major injuries). I'm a bit unsure about this because of the slump at the three quarter mark of the season that threw a monkey wrench into the standings. It looked like Florida might win the President's trophy and get closer to 120 points when that slump occurred. On the positive side, the pressure is off and some of the younger players might get a chance to excel. The negative is that they lost their two top offensive defensemen. This will hurt and offense may very well (more like, probably) drop. Bobrovsky is in the latter part of his career and is a year older and the Panthers will be using a largely untested backup. There is also a natural tendency to not give 100 percent during the regular season especially after winning the Cup and you have proven to yourself that your standing in the regular season is of minimal long term importance.
good insight but i garuntee like every other nhl season there will be suprises, and i hope the suprise is the habs proving everyone wrong and making the playoffs
COLORADO let's go!!!!!
I wasn't expecting you to put CO 1st
I was acting expecting oiler dallas then Colorado but I agree with those as the top 3
7:05 "I will say, that the Capitals fetish there."
You're welcome, everyone.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd what does that have to do with anything I mentioned? And was this your attempt at triggering me? We just won the cup, idgaf about that dude. Lol!
I had to cross the room and rewind the video
@@TheRiverweasel09it’s a bot or a weirdo. That exact same reply was made on every comment on this video
@@TheRiverweasel09i dont think it was. Its just his prediction, it doesnt have to relate.
He said that on all comments, so I doubt its targeted towards you.
How im at as a blues fan. I'd have them below utah and Wild. So im glad you're more optimistic than i am THG😂😂
One thing I noticed- on the board, you have the East on the left side, and the West on the right: shouldn’t it be the other way around? East coast is the right side of the continent, west coast is the right? Maybe just my mental OCD, but just a thought 😂. Great vid as always, Shannon! Much love from Eastern Iowa!
just mirror the video?
As a Kings fan. Thank you for not giving us the Shannon jinx. Kings in the playoffs for sure now. 😂
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
I was interested to see how the rankings have changed on average in past seasons.
In the post-lockout era, on average, teams go up/down by 3.5 spots in the conference rank list compared to the previous season. Some years have way more variation. For example, the 2017-2018 season saw major changes in team ranking compared to the previous season with teams like NYR, OTT, MTL, EDM and CHI taking massive drops in the standings while teams like TBL, NJD, WPG, COL, and NSH jumping up >7 spots each. Your prediction has an average change in position of only 2.2 spots which is well below the average, and likely due to recency bias where you expect teams that did well to do well again and teams that did poorly to do poorly again. There has never been a season in the post-lockout era with as little change in conference ranking as your prediction. So, in reality, I would expect there to be more change in the rankings in the 2024-2025 season than your prediction with more surprises that we didn't see coming.
Also, in the post-lockout era, on average, 10 teams swap playoff spots (i.e. 5 make the post-season which missed the post-season the previous year and 5 teams miss the post-season which made the post-season the previous year). Your prediction only has 6 teams swapping spots (NYI, WSH, LAK out and DET, NJD, and SEA getting in). There have only been three other seasons in the post-lockout era where only 6 teams swapped playoff spots. So once, again I would expect a few additional surprises.
My crackpot prediction includes some bigger surprises and moves (e.g. OTT jumps six spots and makes playoffs with Ullmark having a career year, WSH and PIT suffer much greater decline with aging stars, VGK regrets trading away some of its misfits and misses the playoffs, BOS misses for the first time in 8 seasons, etc.). Note that my average change in rank is only 2.8, which is still well below the post-lockout average!
FLA
CAR
NYR
TOR
DET
NJD
TBL
OTT
BOS
BUF
NYI
MTL
PIT
WSH
PHI
CBJ
EDM
COL
DAL
VAN
NSH
MIN
SEA
WPG
LAK
STL
VGK
UTA
ANA
CHI
CGY
SJS
Jets fan here. Liking all the bubble team comments so far out there on power rankings etc. They start much better when everyone thinks they will miss.
Love these videos and the thinking behind all of the picks.
I think the Avs are actually in trouble. Their uncertain cap leaves them literally one injury from disaster at every position. They could really end up struggling.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd mkay... did you reply to the wrong thing by any chance?
I think you can say that about any team if they have enough major injuries. The Avs forward depth is only really matched by EDM(even without Landeskog, who by all reports is looking good) and their defensive depth is probably top 5 maybe top 10. The only glaring weakness is goalie, which is a pretty big weakness tbh and could hold them back.
@@ianjenkinson5282 and im saying ONE major injury for the Avs and its quits. I dont like what I see.
This is why I dont like YT discussions: you either willingly ignored the comment you replied to... or just didnt understand it. I even emphasized the single injury with a useless 'literally' and you somehow still missed it?
i honestly believe buffalo will finish 7th, its just gonna click this year for sure lmao
Love the ads jersey. I have the same one
Shadow in the shadow is such a legend
Respect your videos and opinions, thank you for the content and hard work! I'd personally have CBJ pretty clearly at the bottom of the East
Hey, as a Devils fan after the disaster of this year, I’ll sign on for 4th in the East. As always, good job HG!
For hockey fans in the Caribbean, the Hockey Guy is like finding pirate treasure! 🏴☠️
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
@@Corey-zn8kd I went to law school in New Jersey! The Devils were actually good back then.
I think wings fight like hell into the playoff this year for sure.
You are a brave man to do this at this time of year. There are surprises that we cannot fathom that will happen this coming year. Who really knows, your Devils prediction last year could have been premature.
The thing is, I think predictions this time of year is just as good as some that are made when the season has already started. 😅
I'm surprised how high you put Tampa, feels like they've regressed. I also think the caps are gonna fall off a cliff.
Might be a hot take that does not age well, but I bet Buffalo finishes higher than most expect. Since the expectations are lower, there is less pressure. And their biggest issue last year was being too soft and easy to play against. They addressed that in the off-season.
Yes, IMO last season a lot of things went wrong - player regression, power play regression, injuries. During the offseason the team got tougher and a lot faster. If they can improve the power play and a couple players bounce back from dismal seasons, I think they will make the playoffs. I give the team a 65-75% chance of making the playoffs.
Can you put the magnets directly on the cats, I feel like that would improve the videos quality.
I hope my flyers are the worst in the east
It would be nice to pick up another top draft pick
- a Pens fan
As a Detroit fan, finishing last is not always what's it's cracked up to be.
No matter how many points the Flyers get, They are always the worst team in the NHL.. Well tied with the Rangers...
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
I think Columbus will be last in the East again.
Injuries are one of the variables you can't account for. My example is New Jersey from last year.
Yeah I think NJ will bounce back to around 100 points.
As a Sens fan, all I can say is, "Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, I'm going to miss Brady."
@@thekingof8 if Ottawa misses, or is out of it at the TDL, I think he may demand out. Hope the Sens stay in the mix and break through
I'm no pro athlete, but I'm a month older than Sidney Crosby and I just came off a day-to-day for hurting my IT band on the sidewalk this week... Pittsburgh is done!
I'm biased, sure, but I see the Habs around #10 in the East, barring a severe injury bug.
agreed...the problem has been the INSANE number of injuries for the last 2-3 years, it's hard to predict where a team will end up when you never get to have a full lineup...when you got Dach, a core piece of your 2nd line getting injured on game 2....(among others, including Newhook) they pretty much played with one line all year
@samarchepas Exactly this. If the Habs had signed a young, big and talented top 6 C as a FA everyone would be freaking out. Well, having Dach back is essentially doing just that.
We are the same team from last year except Dach with Monahan. Most likely Bottom 8 finish again. We won't make playoffs till Demidov comes over anyways. We got time.
@jakecarroll5 Definitely don't see them being a playoff team, but 2nd to last in the East would be a surprise to me. Also concerning since we can't expect even a player like Demidov to take a team from basement to playoff contention by himself. Long story short, this year should be at least a step in the right direction. Finishing anywhere between 9th, 10th or 11th.
Sharks add to potentially elite forwards, a healthy Vanecek over Kahkonen, Toffoli and Wennberg a healthy couture and Walman isn’t enough to crawl out of dead last? That’s depressing
Colorado is in Cap hell and don't really know what is going on with Nichuskin and Landeskog. They still have game breaking guys but I see them 5th or 6th personally
With so much parity, I’ve given up on predicting the season standings. Outside of the tankers and cup contenders, it’s just too tough to tell who is going to be where
Shannon…thanks for putting the Sabres #1 in the thumbnail, it means a lot.
Toronto under Tampa is wild
Wings fan and I rlly don’t know what to expect this season. Just happy Kaner chose to stay here for another season.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
Same! Looking forward to it. I don’t expect playoffs, but certainly don’t count it out. With a bit of luck Detroit could reach the playoffs, for example if Larkin doesn’t miss any games and/or Cat doesn’t hit the post all the time and/or Kane and Tarasenko basically get married and/or the goaltending improves (become more consistent) and/or Raymond keeps playing like he did at the end of the season (or holy moly takes it to the next level). Etc. Any of these could actually be the difference!
@@lenaforsgren agree! There’s a chance but the east is stacked.
@@casewojo6186 Yup, indeed! I kind of like cheering for underdogs. Can’t really be disappointed, but can be pleasantly surprised. 😀
I think the Wings make the playoffs as wildcard 2 and lose 1st round in 5
Shannon did not like putting the Isles outside the playoffs because he knows what they’re the biggest wildcard in the league
I think you should redo this list right before the pre season just to give it the final pre predictions
Exactly
Anytime Shannon makes an all NHL team video, he should just skip vancouver
if anyone's curious, 2 teams in the west dropped out from 2023 to 2024, Seattle and Minnesota. In the East, the Devils were the only ones that dropped out.
All I know going off previous trends, Dallas will have 15+ OTL’s this year 🎉
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)
“Recency bias is always going to be an issue” 😬
The only team in the east that didn’t exemplify the above here is New Jersey. Haha
After this video, what I learned is that you need a decent board eraser.
2025 Eastern Conference Final: Florida Panthers (A1) vs New Jersey Devils (M2)
Game 1: Panthers 3, Devils 2 (OT) (FLA leads 1-0)
Game 2: Devils 2, Panthers 1 (Series tied 1-1)
Game 3: Devils 5, Panthers 3 (NJD leads 2-1)
Game 4: Panthers 4, Devils 3 (Series tied 2-2)
Game 5: Devils 4, Panthers 3 (OT) (NJD leads 3-2)
Game 6: Panthers 3, Devils 0 (Series tied 3-3)
Game 7: Devils 3, Panthers 1 (NJD wins 4-3)