Caravan leisure batteries during winter

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024

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  • @CarlJones14
    @CarlJones14 Před 6 lety +2

    My home converted panel van has 4 × 110ah batteries & a 3mm thick 250w solar panel on the roof. The surface of the panel is rippled. These ripples refract light into the panel even when the sun is low or its cloudy. Granted, I live in London & in the depths of winter the panel does not get direct sunlight, yet my batteries didn't drop below 12.8v all winter. This type of panel is expensive but I think its worth it. Ideal when your caravan is in storage all winter.

  • @mikebro2557
    @mikebro2557 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the great video, very informative. I removed my battery and took it home to charge, the battery may now be healthy but I can’t say the same about my poor back after lifting it out of the battery compartment that is sunk into the floor under the fixed bed! The voltage chart is a very handy reference 👍

  • @simonc4810
    @simonc4810 Před rokem +1

    I was under the impression that leisure batteries exist because standard car batteries are not engineered to handle low voltage conditions. My understanding is that the metal plates within a leisure battery are much stiffer and therefore don’t distort and short-out during deep-cycle conditions. In short, leisure batteries are designed to go flat without suffering damage. AGM batteries take this capability to a new level.
    In terms of keeping a battery trickle-charged, not many chargers are designed for this purpose. CTEK make excellent maintenance chargers but a quick web search for “maintenance charger” will do the trick. You can even select a regeneration program if the battery is struggling. A common cause of battery death (and associated smells) is being connected to a standard trickle-charger (or solar panel without battery-management) for too long.

  • @jonchambers958
    @jonchambers958 Před 3 lety +1

    Really great video to help lay people (like me!) understand how the leisure battery works, how it should be maintained and when it should be replaced. I now need to replace mine! Keep it up!

  • @CaravanGossip
    @CaravanGossip Před 6 lety +12

    This is a great positive video Dan. It left me fully charged. Which leads me on to say there is nothing negative about this.

    • @Perthshire
      @Perthshire Před 6 lety +1

      Caravan Gossip I tried to come up with a re-volting comment

  • @twerki78
    @twerki78 Před 6 lety +5

    A fully charge lead acid battery will freeze around -68c, a battery with 20% charge will freeze around -7c. A discharged battery will freeze like water. A disconnected battery will discharge over time and suffer damage if it is not given a charge.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety +3

      -68c ? i mean, i'm a hardy camper but i think i would draw the line at that temp lol. i read somewhere that at -60 contact lenses freeze to your eyeballs.... OUCH !
      great info - thanks for sharing.
      Dan

  • @MrDoohdaah
    @MrDoohdaah Před 4 lety +3

    Very useful information and well explained. thanks, as I was a bit bothered about what to do when the caravan is not used over winter. Fortunately we keep it at home.

  • @martinkitchin6204
    @martinkitchin6204 Před 2 lety +2

    Very interesting Dan - thanks !
    Our new caravan will be stored in a locked barn with very little direct sunlight so a solar panel will not be much use.
    We've no plans to go 'off grid' so the battery will be used just for the PowerMover. There will be no tracking devices etc
    I think then it'll be a case of buying a Voltmeter, periodically checking it and bringing it home to charge.
    How often do you think that will be?

  • @MrWilko58
    @MrWilko58 Před 4 lety +2

    As a presenter, you have great potential. :-) About 12.8 volts worth.

  • @stonkeng
    @stonkeng Před 4 lety

    Good advice. I took my old worn out battery to the scrap yard and got £18 for it in 2017.

  • @qedelec
    @qedelec Před 6 lety

    Another useful vid to inform and instruct. I have an older van with an analogue volt meter which only shows green amber and red. So bought a very cheap plugin digital volt meter, (£1.32), and allows a constant readout. Although the battery is best measured disconnected from all current drain, it can still indicate sufficiently that the charge is OK after two or three hours, the only item still drawing power is the aerial amp.

  • @Parknest
    @Parknest Před 6 lety

    Absolutely spot on Dan. I'll need to check my battery the next time I'm down at the caravan. I might even feature it in a future caravan video. Using a solar panel isn't an option for me because I use a cover on the caravan to keep the leaves off as the caravan is parked under some trees. Last year I took the battery out and charged it up at home. I've nothing that requires constant power so taking the battery home isn't an issue and I'm only 10 minutes away from the caravan.

  • @wwdamoz
    @wwdamoz Před 3 měsíci

    The battery you have fitted is a dual use battery, and not a dedicated leisure. Also battery voltage below 12.3 is considered flat and in need of charge.

  • @newhorizons3451
    @newhorizons3451 Před 4 lety

    Its worth noting that batteries don't like been shaken or moved around a lot also, which brings two points, taken them backs and forwards to be charged, is not great, but also with the state of our roads now, using lead acid batteries is not the best type, I know they are slightly more expensive but AGM are better.

  • @dukenukem5768
    @dukenukem5768 Před 6 lety

    As the theft alarm, tracker etc don't take much power, why not take the main battery home and replace it during the winter by a small 12v one, maybe a pack of NiMh rechargeables? No freezing issues.

  • @johncreen5957
    @johncreen5957 Před 6 lety

    Great video, terrible puns lol, it was on your advice we installed a solar panel to our knackered battery, it needs replacing but the charge it gets from the panels is enough to use the lights or CD player for a short time, I do check the battery regularly to make sure it’s ok, bye for now

  • @HowardB54
    @HowardB54 Před 6 lety

    Great video Dan , just the info I was after , agree with comments below re multimeter settings , don’t want anyone to connect it with the meter set to amps !
    Now .... winter tyre care next ! .... axle stands ? Swap for old car wheels ? Blank wheel stands ? Etc ...
    Good work as ever Dan
    Regards Howard

  • @itroy3039
    @itroy3039 Před 6 lety

    Handy tips
    I always use at least 120 amp hours or more
    But not many caravans in Germany have a battery.

  • @vince_martyn
    @vince_martyn Před 6 lety

    Another thought about vans with solar panels on the roof, most systems will tell you to shutdown the solar by disconnecting the panel from the solar charge controller *before* disconnecting the battery.

  • @paul-ne1bh
    @paul-ne1bh Před 6 lety +3

    spot on faulty battery ,i have now change it and we are back to normal many thanks paul

  • @MarmaladeTour
    @MarmaladeTour Před 4 lety +1

    I've learnt a lot from this video and I'm only 3 mins in! Good work!

  • @robnicholson4942
    @robnicholson4942 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Dan. Important , clear guidance for a dodo like me.

  • @TheMuttleydog
    @TheMuttleydog Před 6 lety

    I'm new to caravaning and you really have helped and given me good advice and cracking tips.

  • @robforrest12739
    @robforrest12739 Před 6 lety

    Another great video Dan - very informative. I’m actually off to our van after work to check it’s OK as been 3 weeks since we used it and off again in a couple so fingers crossed all is OK 👌

  • @georgewarmowski6881
    @georgewarmowski6881 Před 4 lety +1

    Like your videos, started watching and was curious about the differences between units in UK and US. Some things are similar, some not so much. Very interesting.

  • @sandralloyd838
    @sandralloyd838 Před 4 lety

    Brilliantly done. Simple to understand. Thank you

  • @pauladams4248
    @pauladams4248 Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Dan, I'm thinking of installing a solar panel for winter battery charging. Placing it in the window seems a neat solution but, from what I've seen on-line, obscuring even a small part of a panel will prevent a whole group of cells from functioning, not just those in shadow - because they are linked in series. What are your thoughts on this? - You obviously feel a useful charging output is still achievable.

  • @juliechaplin5251
    @juliechaplin5251 Před 4 lety

    Very informative and helpful - both on the battery and the solar panel set up. Can I ask how you got the wires through the back of the battery case please.

  • @timdhines
    @timdhines Před 3 lety

    Great video. I keep my caravan on my driveway behind locked gates and with alko wheel and hitch locks. It does have a solar panel and alarm so wondering if I should bring battery indoors during winter and trickle charge it. Or leave outdoors but worries about low temperatures in NE England. Advice appreciated and keep up the great work!

  • @davidaustin2172
    @davidaustin2172 Před 3 lety

    Great video, thanks very much. You gave Amp le information and plenty of revolt ing comments!👍

  • @janicegalloway5636
    @janicegalloway5636 Před 6 lety +1

    Very useful and informative, as ever Dan, particularly at this time of year! Thanks :)

  • @elpresidente8730
    @elpresidente8730 Před 6 lety

    Really like your tech tips videos, always clear and concise.

  • @keithdavies51
    @keithdavies51 Před 6 lety +3

    I have looked at buying a multimeter to test the battery but they look so confusing that I always put them back on the shelf. An idiots guide on using one would be useful and much appreciated.

    • @nigelwyn
      @nigelwyn Před 6 lety

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      Screw fix sell a good basic one for under £10.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety +1

      Morning Keith, I will be following up this video with a "caravan" specific video on multimeters, how to use and things you can check etc. Ive already got this one planned in, so your comment is really well received. thank you.
      Take care.
      Dan

    • @keithdavies51
      @keithdavies51 Před 6 lety

      Nigelwyn sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. I’ll look forward to Dan’s video on using multimeters in a caravan environment.

    • @nigelwyn
      @nigelwyn Před 6 lety

      Keith Davies Sorry, I didn't wish to sound mean.

    • @nigelwyn
      @nigelwyn Před 6 lety

      And here's another good one from a useful channel. czcams.com/video/TdUK6RPdIrA/video.html

  • @dukenukem5768
    @dukenukem5768 Před 6 lety

    100W panel at 12v = 8.3amps as you say. But putting 8.3amps through a 10amp fuse is stressing the fuse somewhat and may give spurious blows at normal loads. Fuses are not very accurate in their blowing current anyway. Generally a fault (like a short) will cause a much higher current than normal; therefore fuses are generally chosen at values much higher than any normal working current. You say in another comment that the connecting wire is 25amp rated, so I would fuse at 20 amps. The wire could tolerate much more than 25 amps briefly anyway; its rating will include quite a safety margin. In other words, if you shorted these wires from the battery, a 20amp fuse (even one at the upper end of manufacturing tolerance) would blow long before the wires or battery were distressed if they ever were; and the solar panel should have its own protection.
    I don't know much about solar panels, but if the panel needs current protection for its own sake, then it should already have that locally in its own controller and not be reliant on anything elsewhere in the caravan, so the solar panel's rating should not be a factor in the choice of fuse rating here, as long as the connecting wires and the fuse are over rated for its current.

    • @jamiemacmaster4253
      @jamiemacmaster4253 Před 5 lety +1

      Duke Nukem every wire leaving the battery post should be fused as close to the + post as possible. To protect the wire that could cut or rub up against any metal part of the caravan which would be ground back to the battery that’s a short that would be a fire. So you were saying the solar panel should have its own built in fuse system yes it will but it the situation I’ve just mentioned that wouldn’t protect the wire from that battery short to ground/body. So yes he does need that extra fuse he fitted just off from the battery

  • @sidlewis3954
    @sidlewis3954 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for the great video Dan, you’ve answered a lot of questions I have been thinking about.keep up the good work. 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @markmahoney2300
    @markmahoney2300 Před rokem

    Hi Dan I have a 5 berth double dinner ace jubilee viceroy I love it best thing I've Eva done but im very worried about mould an horrible smell in it after the winter period is there any way u CN help me please as u are brilliant u know what Ur talking about plus I was Neva shown how to use the heater in my van the place I got it from tb caravan sales ltd Skegness they didn't show me how it all works I would not recommend them to any1 but I have my van now and I'm happy with it CN u help please 🥺

  • @philipgray7951
    @philipgray7951 Před 4 lety

    Great video, thank you. Invaluable to me, a newcomer to caravans. I, like you, have my van in storage. Your video explains very well the importance of keeping the battery topped up and a solar panel seems to be the obvious way forward. What about the frost angle though? That still remains an issue right? Can you assist further please? Thanks.

  • @richardw5375
    @richardw5375 Před 4 lety

    What do you if you put a winter cover over? Where would you locate the solar panel and cable?

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Richard, if you place a cover on during winter and have a panel mounted on the roof, you can buy covers that have window panels to allow sunlight through. Have a look at Specialised Covers, they are very helpful.

  • @caileanmoore2835
    @caileanmoore2835 Před 6 lety +3

    A really informative video. Thanks for sharing.

    • @morleycrabbe193
      @morleycrabbe193 Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for all your information do you have any information about The Truman pump

  • @johncahill6859
    @johncahill6859 Před rokem

    Great advice

  • @robertburnett8009
    @robertburnett8009 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi Dan
    Great video .My vans in storeage and I am going to charge leisure battery with a cooler panel. Can I use crocodile clips supplied or have to hard wire. Do I leave all electrics off a fuse box in van ?
    Thanks Dan
    Regards
    Bob

  • @gordonturke4171
    @gordonturke4171 Před 3 lety

    Very informative Paul, thanks for sharing.

  • @lavenderbluevintagetea1412

    Great video .. I’m going to try this as I think my battery has had it .. but don’t want to get a new one until the new year.. also I noticed my battery got hit after towing is this normal.?

  • @pencillou1
    @pencillou1 Před rokem

    Great video Dan, what battery do you use in the lunar clubman

  • @kevjones2107
    @kevjones2107 Před 6 lety

    Interesting vid. I'm new to the camper van scene and never thought of the cold weather and my battery. Thanks for sharing and will sub for more tips ATB Kev

  • @alliehowe663
    @alliehowe663 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the info very useful - can you do a video to explain how the leisure battery is charged whilst on your van ? Ours discharged whist hitched up and we didn’t know why as thought the hook up charges is so obviously we didn’t have lights/water pump etc that works on 12v as a result thanks in advance !

    • @davidaustin2172
      @davidaustin2172 Před 3 lety

      Don’t know how it discharged whilst hitched up. Was the hitch up switched on?, were all the circuits, ie, fridge, lights, arial booster etc. switched off? I always kill all circuits on control panel and my built in amp meter always reads just over 13 volts with hitch up plugged in. Does your battery recharge ok? Was your charger working? If it was a mains charger, it should keep everything supplied even if everything was on, like it should do when your hitched up on site! My battery went dead once, I’d assumed it was sealed, but no, it needed topping up with distilled water...silly me! Hope you’ve got it sorted now.

  • @JimWorldLeader
    @JimWorldLeader Před 6 lety

    Thanks Dan, the information in your video is very useful.

  • @melaniecruickshank3711

    Thank you Dan for another really informative and educatative vid. Mel and Andy C

  • @michaelhallmark8476
    @michaelhallmark8476 Před 2 lety

    Just looked at the piece about batteries and looking at getting a new one.Can you tell me mine has the positive on the left of my battery as you look at the front and I have seen others with the positive on the right does this matter as long its connected correct

  • @geoffsmith6757
    @geoffsmith6757 Před 3 lety

    Hi, very useful as our caravan has been in storage over winter for the first time (previously at home) and it's been battery carnage. One thing that is not really covered anywhere is the current consumed by a typical caravan when in 'System Shutdown' mode. It's certainly not zero - alarm, tracker radio, aerial amp etc? Any thoughts on this and can a 100w panel still cope?

  • @martinwarner1178
    @martinwarner1178 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Question, what if a battery reads 14.12 volts? Is it no good? It does seem to work OK.

    • @simonc4810
      @simonc4810 Před rokem

      That means you have measured voltage with the charger connected and delivering power.
      To check battery condition, there needs to be nothing (apart from a volt/multimeter) connected to it.

  • @craigengle8440
    @craigengle8440 Před 3 lety

    Awesome taught me what I needed to know . From AOTEAROA NZ

  • @isackville
    @isackville Před 5 lety +1

    Will you be doing any reviews of the advantages of using a lithium battery in the future

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 5 lety

      Hi Ivan, i have no immediate plans - as the cost for an equivalent Ah Lithium battery is prohibitively expensive. (At the moment)

  • @chrisfozz
    @chrisfozz Před 4 lety

    yes, worth watching with some good info

  • @namespacetoosmall
    @namespacetoosmall Před 6 lety

    You're using quite thin wires between the charge controller and the battery. If there is a short circuit at the charge controller end, the batteries could push a lot of current down it, heating it up and maybe causing a fire. Do you have a fuse (up to 16A, at a guess) between the wire and the battery positive terminal?

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety +2

      The cable is rated at 25amp, the fuse on the top of the battery is rated at 10amp for the 100w solar panel.

  • @keithhicks1750
    @keithhicks1750 Před 6 lety +1

    Hi Dan, I guess that this applies to motorhome batteries as well, is that correct?

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      HI Keith, yes spot on, exactly the same.
      Dan

  • @SeasideVanlife
    @SeasideVanlife Před 6 lety

    Thank you for the reminder!!

  • @yaroslavmuradian5959
    @yaroslavmuradian5959 Před 3 lety

    Thanks a lot 👍

  • @CaravanningwiththeCoxs

    Hi Dan I have a problem and needs solution I have a bailey with the battery under the fixed bed how would I get the cable from the front to the middle? Cheers Oliver

  • @alanalan1406
    @alanalan1406 Před 6 lety

    Another useful video thanks Dan. If only alerting me to something I don't do and probably won't :-0

  • @charlesegraham662
    @charlesegraham662 Před 4 lety

    Hi dan if you brought a 2008 baily ranger caravan how do you now if its got the right leisure battery in the van Ive got 80amp hr battery is this right thanks charles

  • @DesmondsDonders
    @DesmondsDonders Před 6 lety

    Nice one. I am going to avoid the puns though. If you are planning a future video on battery care etc. how about a "expose" on why the "charger" in you caravan is not a charger ;-) Nice to see someone talking sense on solar btw.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      ahh,... Good point, and a good topic to cover off...

  • @scottgreenwood8165
    @scottgreenwood8165 Před 3 lety

    Travelling without a battery in the caravan say to storage doesn’t affect any electrics you need to drive does it? Thanks in advance

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Scott, yes its fine to transport a caravan without a leisure battery. The leisure battery will supply power to all items in the caravan, but is not required to run systems like the lights when towing.

  • @richardcarrington2869
    @richardcarrington2869 Před 6 lety

    Hi Dan, my van is currently stored at home, so no problems with charging, what are your thoughts on keeping it connected to the mains supply continuously to keep it trickle charging, would it be a positive action to disconnect and reconnect every couple of weeks.

  • @ringe22
    @ringe22 Před 6 lety

    Excellent video! Cheers Dan! 😉

  • @AdaminPoland
    @AdaminPoland Před 3 lety

    Who do I take to court if someone dies while giving a battery a bath like you suggested? :) :) :) Just kidding - great vid.

  • @gavinstreetie1473
    @gavinstreetie1473 Před 6 lety

    Thanks dan great info on batteries for when I eventually buy a caravan some dealers are offering a solar panel on a new van any thoughts ? Watched with interest most of your films , but here’s a question caravan or motorhome (money is not the issue ) i would be grateful of your thoughts

  • @howejones4126
    @howejones4126 Před 6 lety

    Very informative video Dan, I have a question. My van has an installed roof panel which is permanently connected, how do I take a battery at rest voltage measurement?

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      Morning, the best way to get a resting voltage check is to disconnect the battery from any connections. As if you were going to remove the battery. this way you can see the correct resting voltage.
      Measuring a battery with a solar panel connected will give you a false reading.
      Hope that helps.
      Dan

    • @howejones4126
      @howejones4126 Před 6 lety

      Thank you Dan, I've now done that and the battery measured 7.8v, so it'll be a new battery.

    • @vince_martyn
      @vince_martyn Před 6 lety

      Yes, that is a dead battery.

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      yup, its an ex battery.

    • @petegreenfield8366
      @petegreenfield8366 Před 6 lety

      @@TheTrudgians Lovely plumage though, the Norwegian Blue :)

  • @Richie771
    @Richie771 Před 6 lety

    One of your best!

  • @focusgazblay3177
    @focusgazblay3177 Před 6 lety

    Hi can you educate me? If someone stole your van and disconnects the battery can you still track your van??

  • @paul-ne1bh
    @paul-ne1bh Před 6 lety +1

    can you tell me why my caravan battery is getting vary vary hot and a smell of fumes many thanks paul

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      HI Paul,
      No i cannot tell. But i can advise you to disconnect and replace the battery. They symptoms could be down to a faulty battery, a faulty charger or an issue with the caravan. However, if a battery ever gets warm and smells, you must disconnect and remove carefully.
      My advice, would be after disconnection, have your caravan serviced, or at least have the electrics checked by a qualified service engineer.
      Hope that helps.

  • @williamwishart7138
    @williamwishart7138 Před 6 lety

    My caravan battery appears to be flat after 2 months in storage. I’m going to buy a 100watt panel to prevent this in the future. I think I need 16awg cable to connect the charging controller to the battery - I believe 16awg should handle 10amps. Or should I go for 14awg to handle a higher load?

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      HI William,
      I recommend this - its rated for 25 Amps, won't drop as many volts along longer cable runs and has a handy outer sheath for easier installation.
      amzn.to/2jKz3Ef
      Hope that helps.
      Dan

  • @shaunio1113
    @shaunio1113 Před 4 lety

    I’m a bit AC/DC about all these battery puns.

  • @amandamcnab8791
    @amandamcnab8791 Před 6 lety

    Great video cheers dan x

  • @plymouthwelshboy
    @plymouthwelshboy Před 6 lety

    dan - really helpful video but I have a question. we have a new bailey unicorn Seville 3 with a 100w solar panel on the roof. having winterized the van I visited yesterday and when switching on the electrics discovered the battery at 14.7v. I am assuming this isn't good? in which case, being completely new to caravans, what am I doing wrong and what do I need to do to bring my battery back to 13.6v over the winter? can you help? thanks steve

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 6 lety

      Hi Steve, there is nothing to worry about here. Your battery is being charged by the panel, its completely fine. if you were to use the caravan (i.e switch on the radio, perhaps a couple of reading lights etc) you will find the voltage down to about 12.xxx you have nothing to worry about, your panel is doing its job.
      Hope that helps.
      Dan

    • @plymouthwelshboy
      @plymouthwelshboy Před 6 lety +1

      cheers Dan - much appreciated and thanks for all the videos - brilliant for a newbie - deeply appreciated

  • @davidwinter2959
    @davidwinter2959 Před 4 lety

    I live in a static caravan can I keep my batterys under the seats in the storage area so they are kept warm

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 4 lety

      Hi David, yes no problem, try to keep them warm, they get damaged if they freeze.

    • @davidwinter2959
      @davidwinter2959 Před 4 lety

      @@TheTrudgians cheers mate ty

  • @jedturner9173
    @jedturner9173 Před 4 lety

    paul could the system charge my motorhome battery and the leisure battery at the same time

    • @TheTrudgians
      @TheTrudgians  Před 4 lety

      Hi Jed, i'm sorry i don't know the answer to that, It might be better speaking to someone who knows the details of motorhomes and how they manage leisure / motor batteries.