The Model 70 Winchester ~ How Does the .270 Winchester shoot?
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- Let's take a look at how the Model 70 Winchester made by Fabrique Nationale performs with a sample of different factory loads, including reduced velocity woodland game loads, and the author's own handload.
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A review of the 270 only needs four words. "Shoots flat, hits hard".
Dad killed dear yearly with his old Remington in 300 Savage well into the 1990’s when he stopped hunting. With iron sight he fire it once at a soda can behind the house a week before the season. One box of core-lokt lasted him years. Miss those days.
Lkts of the old timers considered a box of 20 to be 20 deer. And they were usually right.
Yup uncle had an old lever action .308 savage. Iron sights we went bear hunting these tools were heckling him on him using a .308 and core lock. Well a bear come inn my uncle shot him through the front teeth out the back of the head. Racked that old savage and shot one in the side of the head as he walked forward epic! Them tools shut there mouth then! He was the only one at camp with a Bear!
What does that have to do with a Winchester
always been a Remington 700 guy but the model 70 is one hell of an iconic rifle!
I’ve got a Winchester model 70 in 270. A 1953 model that is in factory condition. Love it!
I have a Rem 700 , But also a Winchester 70 It's Amazing.
I had a beautiful Rem 700 BDL in .243 Win when I was a kid and it was fantastic. But nowadays there is no reason to purchase a Remington, the shell of that company is really pumping out some low quality product right now. Now, if your just talking about the action, then by all means buy a Bergara or build your own. But there are so many better options then just grabbing a Remington now a-days. We have so many good push feed rifles now it's a shame that we can't have more good Mauser action CRF rifles. I'm shooting a CZ-550 American in .270 but sadly CZ switched from CRF to push feed many years ago.
I now own both having aquired the fn special police and man what a solid rifle
I wish this dude was next door. Love listening to him. Like a radio host
That rifle truly is the rifleman's rifle. One thing you don't hear about much anymore is with 100 grainer's it is a great varmint round. More expensive but you won't be under gunned.
.270 with a 150gr is a beast of a round
Yes, it is, Ollie.
That smile at the end of the video….You know it was a good range day.
My go-to deer rifle is a Winchester Ranger chambered in 270 Win.
For those that aren't familiar with the Ranger, it was a "budget" rifle from the 1980's. It had the model 70 barrel, action and trigger but shortcuts were taken on the blueing and it had a poplar stock.
Overall, it has been an excellent hunting partner. Never a failure from the rifle. It groups my hand loads sub-moa all day long...
The Ranger was an excellent rifle. It was also sold under the Sears J.C. Higgins name, too.
Fantastic video. I really have to say thank you. My whole family shoots 270. My wife 1985 ruger m77. Father in law Thompson center. Myself remington 700. We farm/live/hunt deep woods Canada this last winter was a harsher winter we've had in years so it gave me ample time buy and load all sorts of powder and bullets ( which cost a small fortune these days) long story short we all got drawn this year for something and Myself I managed to to moose after 10 years! I was scrambling to think I should go get a 300 mag of some sort for the upcoming hunts and this video and a previous video you did really brought me back down to earth reassuring Myself that the Ole 270 will always have that place in our safes. Thank you sir.
also Canada here(Calgary)grew up 62 km NW from Montreal, Brit 303, Rem 870
Mr GunBlue, it’s always nice to see your choice of scopes. I like the fact that you choose not to mount a Hubble Telescope on top of your rifles!
After the past two decades of Nightforce ads and every gun writer selling the virtues of shooting deer at ridiculous distances, it’s nice to see a common sense, reality check every now and again!
I know of only a handful of CZcamsrs who express the need for ethical hunting distances while the majority are pushing the newest super bullet in custom rifles, topped with overpowered scopes for the 1000yd+ shots the hunters are going to make…
Again, it’s refreshing to see a 2.5-8x on a 270Win! Great video!
Paul, that's a REALLY worthwhile and dead on comment:) Mounting 'too much' scope can lower a firearm's overall field utility in a damned hurry.
Could not agree more, those pushing 1000yd+ hunting are just unethical.
Correct, simple enough. 👌
Spot on! Thanks for a pertinent observation.
@@PaulVerhoeven2 How?
Nice to see that Federal ammo being so consistent.
My Father was a Deer Culler in New Zealand during the 50s & 60s... Took over 5000 Red Deer almost all with a Mannlicher-Schonauer in 270 win. Used mostly Norma or CAC ( Colonial Ammunition Company... made in NZ ) Ammo. Both 150 grain weights...
I own the featherweight model of this rifle in .270. Absolutely beautiful firearm.
Been using my model 70 for over 40 years and still love it. I use 130 grain for whitetail
I'm a lefty, and being a Jack O'Connor fan I've always wanted a model 70 in .270. I was able to snap one up when USRA was making the lefty modles for a short time. The rifle is definitely a sub-moa gun as long as I do my part. I love that rifle!
Lefty here too. Hard to find in Australia but I managed to find a lh model 70 in 30-06. One of the last ones made at the New Haven factory
Appreciate your honesty on the FN produced 70’s. Same can be said about Brownings Japan move the quality went up not down!
Evening, ive used the S&B 150gr on kudu last year and on gemsbuck this year works really well both distances were 250m and less and they destroy bone , hit both in bone and they really do the job, shooting out a Mauser 270, luv the weapon, use 130gr on springbuck due to long shots and less drop.Ive watched lots of your programs must say you give a lot of info talking from experience, truley enjoy your posts, way out here in South Africa,ost of the guys use everything except a 270win i use it because i think its an excellent calibre, God Bless.
Always love your comments regarding lower velocity for woodland hunting. Living in New Brunswick, Canada I realized many years ago my 3006 factory 150 created too much hydrostatic shock/blood shot damage compared to my 308 shooting 180 round nose. I always consider the slower velocity the key to less hydrostatic shock less damage. I now reload my 3006 with the lighter bullet at lower velocity for deer. Cheers from NB, love the channel
Experience of wisdom from a Canadian brother!
Always great videos, and a joy to listen to, thanks!
My brother (almost 80) still has my father's (long since gone) pre-64 Win 70 in .270. Shoots as well today (little over.28 MOA using my dad's original 4831 handload formulation), as it ever did. I literally laughed out loud when I saw GunBlue using the same powder in his own custom loads in the "new" Fabrique version, though our homebrew shoots quite a bit faster, AND with larger projectiles, (like the movie, some 'guns' "LIKE IT HOT!" :) I nearly spit out my coffee at the 4100 fps call out by his chrono tho LOL.
My western loads for our former Sako .270 rifles produced accuracy with velocities of 3,210 with my 24" and 3,160 with my wife's 22" using 130 grain bullets and that same jug of powder. They were compressed loads. Even my current load at 2,900 is unnecessarily fast for shots inside 200 yards, but it's a fun target round, especially with hunting grade bullets. With match grade Sierra bullets, I suspect the accuracy will be stunning, if I can ever find them.
@@GunBlue490 :) Gotta love those Sako's :))
GB do not
EVER think that I doubt your knowledge/skill, and practical advice. In my book you know MORE about what your talking about regarding the firearm/LEO world than anyone else out there. I've been following you for years now, and have yet to find a single statement with which I take issue:) tho I did feel bad for that woodchuck a while ago.... :) as always, Thumbs UP!
PS: and yep, I'm from the west where shots are waaay out there or you don't get a shot, so I figured you also had some 'hotter' loads for your fine rifle in your back pocket somewhere:) In fact, your 3210fps/130 loads are even 40-50 fps. faster than my dad's :)
My uncle gave me some 4831 he bought while he was in college in the early 1960’s. I use it for a 6mm-284. Great powder for a .270!
Terrific show. Always nice to see rifle and ammo advice. Thank you.
I am lucky to own a mdl70 it is at 6.506. I took it out last weekend and it is still verry right on in the center of target. The gun was made in 1942 by the serial no. Any it a pleasure to soot.
Very cool man and set up! Wonderful production
Those hand loads shooting real good. Great video.
Thanks for the documentation Blue!
What a beautiful, iconic rifle and caliber. That 2.5-8 Leupold really compliments it too. I love that scope, got one myself.
My go to scope the 2.5x8 .....the 1.5 x 5 leupold is great too. It's nice to have a light scope on a featherweight ,very handy package as a set good easily out to MPBR. Even with the 1.5x5 I always had plenty of magnification at 500 yds on steel plates. Deer ? Never shot one over 215 yds .
270 ? great caliber you'll never have to hunt to hard finding ammo . (Recent dearth hopefully was just the periodic ammo shortage )
7.11.22 Winchester Model 70™️ & .270 Win, “never fails”🫵🏼
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, videos and stay safe.
I love these videos. I have many calibers, always come back to the 270.
As always, I greatly respect and appreciate your vast knowledge, common sense, and willingness to pass on excellent information! God bless and keep up the great videos you share.
Sharp looking rifle and the 130 hand load is certainly a good one. Thanks for sharing.
Absolutely love that rifle! It really didn't mind any of that ammunition, it seemed to like your handloads the best, but it shot them all very well. I use a Winchester XPR in .270 or an old Remington Model 88 Woodmaster in .300 Savage. I love that .300 Savage as it was passed down from my father. Love the channel and always feel as if I have learned something whenever I wat one of the videos. Need to get set up as a Patron to help out. Thank you sir for the entertainment and instruction!
Great show.
Thanks for the video! I've got a 50's vintage M-70. Shoots good and it sure feeds smoothly. This video makes me want a new FN made one!
I bought the Webley and Scott empire rifle after your review a few years back, it’s also chambered in .270. Love it. Hope all is good with you my friend.
Thank you Mr GB. I loved your reaction at the very end of the video, nothing wrong with that sir indeed.
Nice shooting! Great video as always!
M-70 is by all means the very best rifle made originally in the US. Had a post-war M-70 Lightweight in .257 Roberts and hand-loaded rounds for long-range woodchuck hunting. Excellent!
Very enjoyable watching 👍
Always enjoy your videos so much information and experience. I have the exact rifle and cartridge combo. It always does one thing put meat in the freezer. I'm currently over seas in the military cant wait to get home and hunt these video are always great to watch. Keep them coming.
Excellent video. I love my 308 Featherweight. Slick action and an easy carry.
Howdy Sir. I always enjoy your videos on traditional firearms. I'm an old school shooter/hunter and I appreciate the great firearms and cartridges.
FYI: I have a 257 Roberts I built on a 1941 Mauser 98 action from 1941. This action was made in Steyr, Austria at an automotive plant(Steyr-Daimler-Puch) by German POWs. It shoots sub 0.25 MOA. :-) Another older cartridge I love is my 35 Whelen I built on a Savage 110 action. It shoots 0.50 MOA and is my favorite big game(elk) rifle. Thanks for all you do! Later on.....
Timely as looking for a 270. Handload all my ammo and this video proves the point of loading just what you want. Fast bullet, medium , or slow. Could see the differences in recoil in all your shooting. Thanks so much for your time doing these reviews
I have a ruger American clambered in .270win and it's a very well made gun. I love shooting it.
Thanks for the video.
Thank you for your valuable information! Merry Christmas!!! God bless you and your family!!!
I’ve recently become a huge fan of the Nosler ABLR 150 grain ammo. Runs .5 MOA in my Browning X Bolt
Bought my Winchester model 70 in 270 a few years after coming back from VN in 1971. It's been my favorite caliber and go to rifle ever since. Thanks for the great shooting video.
Welcome home and God bless.
Excellent video as usual. I wish I had an old school neighbor like you, someone I could enjoy a fine cigar with and a good adult drink while talking about guns, baseball and hunting. That Model 70 is a very nice looking rifle! And chambered in a .270 Winchester, even better. Here out West, I've tried to steer more than one person to the .270 simply because it works. Flat shooting, moderate recoil, and capable of very good accuracy.
Your videos are fantastic.
Thank you for sharing! I have the same rifle wearing a 3.5-10 leupold
Enjoyed this. Blessings from Australia.
I still like the 25-06 but my go to now is the 270 !
Thanks for all the info with the instructional videos , we all appreciate them 👍
Great video, thank you.
My Model 70 is chambered in .270 WSM. It loves the 130 grainers. You can actually see them fly if you're the shooter.
I own a bunch of Winchester model 70's. All pre-1964. You have sold a newer one - love FN hand guns , I am light a 270 winchester rifle, been using the 300 Weatheby Mark V with light loads for deer and pronghorn. Excellent video captain.
great work mate
I'm a big fan of .270 Wim but bought my first modle 70 in .270 WSM last fall. I have owned and reloaded dozens of calibers but never a Magnum (aside from .44 and .357) until now. I know the 270WSM is supposedly obsolete but it was a good deal. What an impressive rifle and what an impressive caliber. 1/4 MOA and 100 fps over advertised with Federal factory ammo and no more recoil than any of my .270 wins.
There's that! I have a Browning BLR in 270WSM ...what a rifle
I love the .270 considerably. I think more people should take another look at this caliber. It still is a very capable caliber.
I ended up with a Remington 700 DM stainless and I put a nice CDL stock on it.
My favorite caliber still is the 7mm-08. But the .270 is a brilliant old workhorse indeed.
.270's been my go-to hunting rifle since 1971 when I bought a very accurate, pristine pre-64 Super Grade M70 Fwt monte carlo from Cale's Gun Shop in Alton, IL. When the prices of rare configuration M70s went to the moon, I traded it to a CA collector for a 1954 Monte Carlo combed, standard .270 Fwt, keeping fingers crossed I hadn't traded away accuracy. I needn't have worried; if I do my part, it'll regularly put 3 shots into 5/8". I use a 2.5x8 Leupold w/Leupold dot in Conetrol mounts. From deer to antelope & elk the combination has never failed.
Coincidentally, when I got this rifle, just as FN, I glassbedded the recoil lug area & the tang. The barrel free floats except for sight upward pressure ~2" behind stock tip.
Thanks, very informative.
I really enjoyed that video! Thank you sir. 😊
Great video as always hunting the soybean feels here in North Carolina 270 does the job every time
Enjoyed that . Thank you . See you next time .
Although I shoot a different manufacture, a Christiansen Arms Traverse, I truly enjoy my .270 Win. It’s become my favorite rifle, and I’ve put countless hours practicing at home dry firing and hundreds of hours shooting it I have enormous confidence in the .270 Win, it has helped me conclude many hunts, and filled the larder for my family.
This is my dream rifle
"A lot going on . . ." Only a fellow CZcamsr could really understand the significance of that statement! Nice ammo test with a great rifle and cartridge. I've got several of the current generation Winchesters. The just all have a lever instead of a bolt. But like your model 70, they are the best guns of their type ever stamped with the Winchester name.
Fantastic information.Thank You. And GOD Bless.
I have had my M70 in .270 since the 80's. I bed and free floated the stock myself. Shoots like a dream with Hornady SST 130 grain ammo.
Beautiful rifle…I agree I think the “new” Winchester are a lot better the Winchester’s of the past… great vide 👍
Great video
over the years i have had a number of 70's presently i have a Cooey 710(basically a Canadian Model 70)chambered in 30-06, also an actual Model 70 in 30-06
I do love a good wood stock.
My first. 270 was a Ruger M77 it was very basic but a sweet rifle then progressed to Model 700 Remington .270 Mountain rifle used it for 30 years now I'm shooting a Tikka T3X .270 love my .270's shot my buck at 340 yards in Colorado this year and it did the trick as usual can't wait to use my 7mm-08 and 6.8 Western next
Your 130 Hornady Interlock flat base sounds like nearly the same load I used to get my first deer. Always had great success with the Hornady Interlock flat base. Sellior&Bellot ammo is great stuff. I get it whenever I see it available. For me and woods hunting I try to keep to no more than 2500fps. Just worked up a 30-06 150 Hornady flat base load that duplicates the 30-40 Krag. My shots here will never be over 100 yards, probably much closer.
I love my .270. 3 whitetails, 2 black bear and a timber wolf all one shot, all down within sight. I've used Winchester's Ballistic Silver Tip and the PowerMax bonded.
i love the 270 win silvertips
Your 270 must be more powerful than mine downing 6 animals with one shot. 😁
thank you for putting out the videos ,
I hope everyone and Benny, are all doing ok
We're doing just fine, thank you!
My go too .270 is the Browning A Bolt Medallion I have been using 130 Gr Hornady SST hand loads I also have the Leopold Vari x 3 - 2.5x-8x. A very good combination for me . Always wanted the Winchester Model 70 Thanks GunBlue490
how do the 130 sst do on deer for you, some say that bullet does not do well on deer that is falls apart to much ?
The 130Gr Hornady SST did very well for me One Buck At about 425 yards only went 50 yards on another hunt doe at about 370 yards went 75 yards .I was using 53 Grains of IMR 4350
@@jjgriffin3275 The .270 Winchester made its reputation on deer. The light 130 grain bullet has the same terrific sectional density as a 165 grain 30-06, but can be driven at least 150 fps faster, with a flatter trajectory, and far less recoil, and usually is more accurate. Anyone who says the bullets fall apart is either using the wrong bullet, or has never used one on deer. There are frangible bullets in most all caliber rifles. High speed loads should never be used for whitetail deer hunted within 200 yards.
270 is my go to chambering. Has the history to prove its effectiveness and staying power. Did I miss what distance the test was done at ?
100 yards.
Good shooting with an eight power scope….
Looking good Blue. It’s been. Awhile.
😁 When I heard that Leupold was discontinuing the Variax 3 - 2.5x-8x, I went out and bought an extra one! I may just use that when I buy my 3rd 270 Winchester (My first two are Saco 75 and 85 Models)! I was thinking about getting a Winchester Model 70 in the Tigerwood Maple Stock (but, time will tell)! I also have a pre-64 Model 70 Featherweight, chambered in a 30-06 Springfield! I Wish I was at the range with you! 😯 Deer season is just around the corner you know! 🦌
They still list it. Where'd you hear it was going to be discontinued? Great scope.
I am sorry that I didn't get back to you! Where did you see it listed? Their own website says it is being discontinued, if I'm not mistaken? I'll double check myself! 🧐
Yes, page #14 of their website says it is discontinued! They still sell the VX3i 2.5x8 power for handguns, but not rifle scopes!
Great rifle; consistent, reliable, accurate, etc..What is not to love for a deer/elk shooter?Love to go out in the woods.
Love the model 70’s
thank you. for your comments on the quality of FN produced rifles.
picked up a supergrade this winter.
MR BLUE! GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN! DONT BE SUCH A STRANGER ! LOVE THAT RIFLE
MY POPS HAD ONE IN 30 06 I HAVE SOME 170 G SMK IM DYING TO TEST BUT THE COST OF GAS IS MUCKING ME UP . GOTTA DRIVE TWO HOURS TO HAVE MY FUN . STUPID POLITICIANS AND THIER MEDDLING NOSES
The 130 grain .270 load in my model 70 and 165 grain '06 load in my model 700 have been my only loads for 45 years.
To me personally the 270 Winchester is the standard for deer calibers. Getting ready to purchase another one asap.
I'm coming back to New England soon! I'll have a cigar and bourbon waiting for you.
great combo
Enjoyed!
I have a 1946 mod. 70 and it still shoots like a champ. 👍
Probably will, forever.
I own a 30-06 Winchester model 70 featherweight ( mine loves Nosler ammo)
@@t3h8ar0n partion is a great bullet even tho some dont like
This guy is great
Hi Gunblue. Thank you for another great video.
Can you do a video on 7.62x39 hunting ammo? I hunt with a mini thirty and would love to get your insight on that cartridge.
I'll place that on my list!
Win. Model 70 is my dream rifle...
I bought a model 70 featherweight, in 7mm08, last year, and have a 1951 remington 721 in 270.
Aren’t you having trouble finding factory ammunition? A former co-worker recently bought a rifle in that chambering and can’t locate factory loads. He doesn’t reload.
No problem getting 7mm08 here,plus I have almost 4 boxes,the store I go to always has it in
I have a mid-90s stainless Model 70 in .308 Win. It has the coned breech and controlled round feed. It carries a silver Leupold Vari-X II. It's in a plastic stock that is serviceable but no beauty. It shoots better than I do.
*Works great, nice height.*
I have to get me a 270! I have quite a few bolt action rifles but no 270.
Very nice 👍. That model 70 really shoots well. I've watched many tests like this by different guys and it seems their rifles shoot really good with some and really bad with others from sub moa to 2' to 3 " even a high quality Seiko that I saw recently had some bad groups from certain ammo. it's really impressive that yours stayed so tight through such a wide range of ammo. I think Winchester must be getting some really good barrels and just the rifle overall it's just as you put it "really done right". I'm really planning on getting a model 70 trying to decide what caliber. I like the classic 270 280 Remington 7 mm 08 and the 308 all great cartridges. All of them will serve my purpose. I may go with the classic 270. Thank you 👍
good rifles are addictive.
Beautiful rifle to spend a day at the range with